Why is it every time you talk to an older person about OWS or the situation with jobs right now they say "Get a damn job" or something similar? Do they automatically assume that they aren't or haven't applied for work?Are they not aware of the 14 million people unemployed?Are they not aware of the millions of 30-40 year olds who have degrees and work experience working at mcdonalds after losing their job?What are these jobs they thing that we can "just go get"
Conservatives have always had their heads buried in the sand, what else do you expect OP?
Stale copypasta.
One thing Arabs and Americans have in common. We both hate to take minimum wage jobs. There are plenty of jobs, but you just believe they are beneath you.
Just like people on here, old people know they're wrong, so they resort to stupid slogans like "get a job hippie".
Funny thing is, down here in Texas every single person I meet over the age of 70 are amazed that EVERY young person isn't protesting. I live in a very conservative town and most of the older generation is amazingly pro OWS and disgusted with our current government. They all seem to agree on the job market and how much a dollar will spend these days. I dunno, maybe it is a mindset that seems to have been lost on this generation that one shouldn't be happy with your government screwing you.
>Are they not aware of the millions of 30-40 year olds who have degrees and work experience working at mcdonalds after losing their job?It almost as if those degrees are completely worthless or something.
Conservatives before August 2011WHERE ARE THE JOBS PRESIDENT OBAMA?Conservatives after September 2011GET A JOB YOU SOCIALIST COMMIES
>>381226Absolutely untrue. There really aren't enough jobs period. Not to mention that a country that's over educated is under performing. We are letting our investment into these people's education go to waste (since education is paid for primarily by the tax payer).
University degrees just arent the same anymoreGeneric commerce degrees lands you in a highly competitive field with your superiors not retiring and you competing against people with better degrees or experience.Science degrees are still useful and I think any sort of engineering is near gauranteed a job.Liberal arts is shit, but this is has been known for decades. People act as if a general arts or hippie drum cricle majors could get you jobs. They cant and have never gotten people jobs. In the trades such as electricians, welders or plumbers, etc... that desperately need not only workers but SMART and young workers.Sadly enough, fast food places are full up. They almost always are during high employment.
>>381335>people get useless degreesI don't see why we allow so many students to even enroll in these programs when we know they won't find a job. When competition for employment is that competitive then there should be competition for education.
Hey, once I stop seeing help wanted signs all over fucking town, I'll stop telling the smelly hippies to get a job.
>>381374>I don't see why we allow so many students to even enroll in these programs when we know they won't find a job.I can give you a few good reasons...hehehehe
>>381374Its a mix between kids who dont know what the fuck they want to do and kids who want to make their hobbies a career.Both highly expensive mistakes but how can any 16 year old make the decisions to push them to their future career? You might know the general field you get into but I think kids need a great deal more hands on experience in the work place.Also, there is a great demand for trades people. But you need education to work in them. It doesnt matter if there are 10,000 open slots for electricians, no company is gonna risk hiring a young kid with a BA who doesnt know what the + and - mean.
>>381399What town do you live in? Do they hire non-Mexicans? I'll move there.
>>381442Texas, baby. We're hiring like mad right now, just not in Cultural Sensitivity fields.
the democrats and republicans both have created a corporatist over regulated society where business has become so expensive to start up etc that its caused excessivlely high unemployment. the old people don't understand how its much harder to find a decent job in this day and age, especially during a very severe recession. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to find A job. there are plenty of jobs you can work that are low paying and sometimes demeaning, but you should've thought of that before you got a worthless degree.
>>381335If you go after general arts in college, its because itsA. something you are interested inB. Its challengingNo one goes "Hey, I'll take liberal arts, its easy"The people in "Underwater Basket Weaving" find it hard.Do you really think people who find liberal arts hard could get into the trades?
>>381459Texas is a town? I thought it was a state.
>>381459We need jobs, normal jobs.We need jobs for HS kidsFor college undergrads to pay for collegeWe have 14 million unemployed but educated and trained people who were fired from the recession. We need jobs for the next geeneraiton
>>381226>There are plenty of jobs, but you just believe they are beneath you. No, there really aren't. And even if there were, a minimum wage job at McDonald's is not enough to support one person let alone a family. Is this the only way you can digest recent events? Raw denial?
>>381472Fine, Austin. But I know we're hiring all over the state, so take your pick of cities.
North Dakotathere, now GO GET A JOB!
>>381489texas is more libertarian, so they survived the recession better than most states.
>>381462Deregulation won't create jobs. Quite living in lalaland
>>381494Yeah, actually that's a really good one.And if Obama hadn't fucked up the pipeline deal there would be even more jobs.
>>381489What are they hiring for?I don't need to move just to get another near minimum wage service job with no benefits or chance for advancement.
>>381504Actually Perry received lots of stimulus funding.
>>381505>deregulation won't create jobsevery economist in the world believes the minimum wage has caused excessively high unemployment.
>>381515Nope.
>>381513http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/rick-perry-stimulus-funds_n_929127.htmlHe was only able to balance the budget using stimulus cash, twice. $17.4 Billion
>>381515What the fuck are you smoking. Minimum wage does kill jobs. But it does so at the cost of keeping the lowest paying jobs from dropping down to .2 cents an hour.
But really none of this shit fucking matters. Factory work isn't coming back no matter what the fuck we do for business. Technology has finally got underway replacing human labor, we are just too fucking expensive to deal with even at slave labor. The whole fucking thing is tumbling down, we are just seeing the first tremors.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrvOeDxBrw/thread
older person = mature person who isn'tlazywhy not talk to people your age who have jobs and find out the magic spell they used to get themeffortosis!!!! TRYINGUSSS!!! NON-COMPLAINUSS!!!it's one of thoseYOU FUCKING PISS ANT PUSSY SHIT CUNT
>>381515> Remove minimum wage> Suddenly £1 an hour jobs pop up everywhereYeah when we're living in an age where everything costs then minimum wage is a must. My dad couldn't work for £1 an hour and neither could I. It would actually be better to be on welfare then work for £1 an hour. At least then you get your bills paid.
>>381463This is a personal anecdote but Ive met plenty of people who picked arts courses because its easier.I had alot of electives in my commerce program so i took arts programs for shits and giggles and they were some of the easiest course I have ever taken. If I majored in art I may even be mistaken into believing I am a genius for the high gpas i was getting.
>>381512All levels dude, most way over minimum wage.I'm at UT and they're hiring a ton of people right now. Lots of research jobs.Also, minimum wage goes a lot further down here, low cost of living. But the Dakotas have us beat on that one - and oil work pays way better too...
>>381545>derpnobody is going to work for 20 cents an hour. there is always a natural minimum wage. and when labor is less so are the products and services.lrn2profitmargins
>>381526Most economists believe it, though.And in terms of government spending, pic related.On the Y axis is the country's economic growth, and on the X axis is a country's ratio of gov't spending to private spending.
Here in Lawrence, KS it's "We're too good for low-requirement jobs, we have KU at the center of town! Let's open up another shitstain bar and put another building on campus."Wish my car wasn't in the shitter, Topeka has more to offer me.
>>381580There is no such thing as a 'natural minimum wage' that would counter act the laws of supply and demand you fucking twit. Drop the price floor on wages and they will drop, just like when you drop the price floor on any good or service.
>>381583Wrong.
>>381571>average wage drops to £8/day>people can't afford anything>companies lose massive amounts of money due to no spending>companies forced to lower prices to meet average salary
>>381226Or more likely, they are beneath every human being on the planet and don't pay enough for you to actually live in this country.
>>381546BS, factory work is still around , i know a guy who makes parts with those CNC machines and they are booming with backorders.If you want some kind of production job you can find it if you are willing to learn it.Look its 9% unemployment, not holy shit 50%
>>381587One way bus ticket dude.
>>381583The CBO disagree's with you http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/deregulation-job-growth_n_1099579.htmlDeregulation only mildly stimulates long-term job growth. It's not a solution for the short term.
I live in Berlin, I get 750 euros as an intern a month while the average is about 1500. Usually with two partners in a family.The minimum wage is... well I dont think it exists cuase Ive met people who work 3-4 euros an hour.However Ive seen decent flats in mediocre neighbourhoods at 300 euros a month.
>mf after the Jobs for Vets thing passedoh man I am never going to get a job now, these companies get their tax breaks doubled if they hire a vet who has been out of work as long as meI am a civil engineer with a degree from one of the top ten (it bounces between 8-10) schools for my majorI am a member of MensaI have applied to 300+ jobs and can't find a job after a year.The average age of experience the last entry level job I applied for was 5 years. That means, on average, I am competing with people 5 years more experienced than me. Some probably have 10-15 years on me. I made a personal promise that if I didn't have a job by a year and a half unemployment I'd join the military. That comes up in January.
>>381577yeah people here in MN are flocking to ND and ND doesn't mind advertising here because its a short move and the climates are not that different so its not like moving from TX to ND
>>381628The Dakotas is where dreams dieYou go there when you really cant do anything else
>>381617It takes a bit of start-up money to move, I'm certain you know. Turning on utilities at the new place and deposits.But, I'm doing what I can here. Which is mostly odd jobs on farms since we have tons around here. But, after saving enough, getting my shit out of here.
The really funny part is if they are unemployed they're automatically disadvantaged in this job market.Employers are increasingly not hiring unemployed people.
>Arkansas passes anti-immigrant bill>Thousands of available jobs>Liberals complain that the immigrants are needed for said jobs>Liberals then complain that they don't have jobsTLDR; liberalism is a mental illness
>>381670This is because the longer they are unemployed the longer they're out of experience. The employed are constantly gaining more experience, this is going to create stark contrasts in class eventually if we don't address it immediately.
>>381670It's an obvious practice here.But I remember something on my state's level going through to punish businesses for doing that. Wonder what happened.
>>381701this.i cleaned bathrooms for 2 years and got paid. this "they take jobs we dont want" crap is bullshit.
Its not a permenant solution but find a location where lots of people go to hangout like a park or something and bake some cupcakes or pretzels or whatever, bring them in a basket and sell for like $1-2. Tax free income and not too work or creative intensive.Helps to not dress like a bum though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJcFWqzjuoI'll just leave this here.
>everybody is scared about recession>companies use this as an excuse to fire people>workplaces running on skeleton crews>companies making larger profits because there is less people to pay>everybody believes companies are falling on hard times and blames the government
>>381718MEXICAN DETECTED
>>381494Where does the money come from to go thereWhere would you stayAnd why would someone hire a college student who can't get a normal job to work with complex machinery?
>>381558Um, I've been sending out about 300-400 applications a week, applying to the places the couple friends I have work, asking them if they know places that are hiring. Etc
>Apply for jobs>make callbacks>sending resumes and cover letters and not just normal applications>asking friends and family is they know of places to work>try to get on campus job>don't have enough "Financial need">try to get job as farmhand>lol illegals:I
>>381735>Where does the money come from to go thereyou have nothing to sell? no person to borrow money from?>Where would you staywherever you canAnd why would someone hire a college student who can't get a normal job to work with complex machinery?because they NEED people.. have almost no unemployment in ND because they need peopleget on a jobs site and start calling places in ND
>>381755Yeah but where? And for what jobs?The north/northeast and west coast (especially California) is dying man.. go south/midwest for work.
>>381795BUT HIPPIE GET A JOB!1 YOU LAZY BUM!! U FAGGOT XD I HOPE THE POLICE MOLEST YOU!!!
>>381795That's why I haven't been hired on at the local farms, instead they just call me up when something the Mexicans can't fix happens (like tractor issues), and they pay me anywhere from 80-100.Be great if this happened weekly instead of maybe once a month.
>>381797No and no.I have a cheap phone which is necessary for getting calls for interviewsI have a cheap ass shitty laptop for doing applications and college homework.>>3818071.Iowa2. Grocery Stores, Retail, Banks, Cable Compaines, Computer Repair, farm hand, ups, pizza delivery, dollar stores, on campus work, gas stations, liqour stores, restaurants, janitorial positions, sanitation positions, "work for the city" (mowing public land, snow removal), normal snow removal etc.
>>381797Second that emotion.Sell as much shit as you can - start over dude. A suitcase and bus ticket can get you places. Look into shelters in the area the jobs are in. Lots of times you can live for free (not glamorous... ) while you wait for your first/second paycheck.Your ancestors managed to live lean, anybody can do it.
>>381837This seems terribly difficult to do while also going to college full time.
>>381619Funny, because my chart comes from the House of Representatives.http://www.house.gov/jec/ growth/function/ function.pdf
>>381828Yeah, sorry to hear that dude. From what I understand Iowa sucks for decent jobs right now.. set your eyes south and west.
>>381847If you're in a major that's in demand.. just tough it out and finish.Otherwise... quit and get some work now while you can.
>>381847>This seems terribly difficult to do while also going to college full time.You fucked yourself, enjoy your debt.
>>381877I'm doing gen ed right now. I dont know if I want to try business again. I've always been tech savvy but I really don't know what there is for IT and computer shit. I am good at computers, terrible at complex math. Or if I should go get electircians cert, but I don't know if I'd be good at it.All I know is that I would puss out of super hard labor. I am a white collar worker, not a blue one.
>>381205if they cant get a job they should try creating their own work.You know be and entrepreneurial type person. It can be making tea cozies or something anything. WHY ARE YOU WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO GIVE YOU A JOB. YOU CAN WORK FOR YOURSELF. DO ODD JOBS. ANYTHING.STOP BEING WHINY CUNTS.
>>381939Because I don't have any ideas.And where would the money and confidence come from for a personal business?
College isn't for everyone who graduates high school. Every student seems to think it's a requirement these days: go to college or else you become homeless. We have a flood of college graduates who have pointless degrees and want a job starting at $100k. There's no place for all these kids on the workforce. They're $20k+ in debt and actually expected to pay it off with a new job that would magically appear for them, despite them having no actual skills. Deal with it, you fucked up. Manual labor jobs are aplenty.
>>381954So basically, you're telling us you're an idiot who wants lots of money for nothing.
>>381958Where are you getting that college students want 100k starting?When did they poll college students saying that.Also, the main reason a lot of our parents were middle class is because they had college education. Simple as thatSo if your parents, teachers, coaches, preachers, etc all tell you that this is a good idea, and it gave you success, well what else are you going to expect them to do?Seriously, do you expect the liberal arts majors or us non-math majors to be good enough for trades?>>381971When did I say lots of money? I want a normal middle class job, I want a normal minimum wage 7.25 job that I can work hard at and not still be making 7.25 one year later. That I want to work my way up into the 40-50 thousands, even get into the upper middle classes of 70k-100k.When did I say a ton of money. I am looking FOR A JOB. A job means you work. Therefore its never for nothing.
>>381929Sounds like your confused and probably just wasting your money accumulating debt.You should work for a while, get your goals/values sorted out, then go back to school.I went to work right after high-school (well, still in high-school) and didn't go to college for 13 years, but when I did, had plenty of money to pay for it all.
>hate school with a fiery passion>you better go to college anon, don't want to end up flipping burgers your whole life>endure years of bullshit that i never even wanted because of what I'm told it will earn me>get shiny new engineering degree>no jobs >just get a fucking job at McDonald's you entitled asshole what the fuck is wrong with your generation
>>381988It's not the governments job, or wall street's, to make up for where you fucked up financially. Those people were wrong to give you that advice, you're going to need more than just a college degree to get a job. Why are you listening to a preacher for financial advice anyway?
>>381999>you should work for a while>can't get a job>work for a while>14 million unemployed>work for a while
>>382084When did I say I fucked up. I am not in debt, this is about how I and many people like me, can't get a job, even a minimum wage oneBut it IS the govt's fault for subsidizing colleges and driving up the cost.
>>382107Not being able to find a job is entirely the job seeker's fault. Unrealistic expectations, unwillingness to move, too many obligations and burdens, etc..The jobs are out there, many people just aren't willing to sacrifice to get them.
>>382147Everything you said is complete horse shit. It isnt backed up any any real world data
There are over 10,000 farming jobs open in Georgia and over 30,000 farming jobs open in Alabama.They all could have jobs if they wanted to.
>>381854Page not found
>>381939Oh yeah I'll just do oddjobs and nit tea cozies all my life. That's a sound plan. Wtf?
Plenty of jobs in Alabama that no one wants to do...http://www.pressherald.com/business/alabama-finding-legal-farm-workers-scarce-_2011-10-23.html
I'm 19 and I could have gone for an interview with Hungry Jacks (a burger chain) but why the fuck should I? I should have a career based job for an adult like an apprenticeship or something similar. Food service and retail is the most soul crushing, life draining, floormat enabling occupation in existence, I would rather clean toilets for minimum wage rather than deal with people over a counter.
>>382147Yeah, who needs a living wage? Sacrifice, kid!
>>382226That's why we should give them amnesty and have them be tax paying citizens who work for a decent wage.
OP here you go. Animooted
>>382220Wow, I quit, that's some fucking entitlement right there. If it isn't the fucking answer to everything for you you fucks scoff at it. I for one welcome this economic collapse just to watch fucks like you starve to death as you won't do shit.
>>382245>I'd rather have pride and starve than get a job most people had in highschool.
Conservatives need to believe that you haven't tried to get a job. If they accept that there are people who have honestly tried to get a job and have really, truly failed, even after lowering their standards to minimum wage jobs, they're forced to accept that trickle-down economics doesn't work. So they need it to be the case that OWSers haven't really tried to find work, and you'll never convince someone that a proposition they need and want to be true is false.
>>382226It's a travesty.Those farmers should be in prison for ever having hired black market labor in the first place. After they do their time in the pen THEN they can bitch about how much american workers charge for their labor.
>>382275I look forward to it as well. People will not starve willingly. Change is only truly possible through violence, good or bad
and this is why you fail. Everyone else had to have a job like that at one time in their lives. But You'd rather not work at all than work in food service.It is called WORK because its WORK. It isn't supposed to be a god damn day in the park.
Hey, those of you too proud to take less wages or work shit job, I hope you do starve to death so at least some other schmucks might learn from your mistakes.The world doesn't need you, please lie down and die.
>>382319Why shouldn't work be like a walk in the park?
>>382311And when the starving parasites rise up, they will be shot.
>>382319so they can default on their college loans and only be able to afford the food from their shitty mcjob because they get a discount on it? So now their credit is fucked(oh hey another black mark in the job search) and they will never get out of debt, what the fuck is next?This ends in violence, it HAS too
>>382332>And when the starving parasites rise up, they will be shot.The moment one of them gets shot, battle lines will be drawn, we will be at full scale class war, not this bullshit we call class war, but real fight, real looting, real death. I for one cannot wait
>>382182us southerners don't lazy shit stain hippies. We rather pay a Mexican proper wages then hire little pussies.but you are correct, and that just in farming, probably another 300,000 in the actual work force available.
>>382327If the farmers weren't breaking the law by hiring illegals, shit jobs would pay better and Americans would work them.
>>382245I am 29. I was in the navy and got out when i shattered my knee on the flightline. I bus tables 50 hours a week until I can find something else. There isn't anything here, but I work hard and I keep my head up, because I have dignity and honor. You are everything wrong with this nation.
Goddamn it. Quit your whining and just get a job. Work hard every day. Get married to a nice woman and have kids. Now that's just real-world wisdom right there. I don't understand why some people gotta go and complicate the issue, when the universal answer to happiness is all there real plain and simple. It's all of a few short steps.
>>382337Bring it on, peasants.
>>382319OP here, I've worked in food service, customer service, janitorial, and in a pharmacy. I've been working since age 14 and only recently been unemployed. I've done that, I want job security, I want to be able to go to work, work hard, not make mistakes, and work there for a couple years. I want a job that allows for advancement.Its not about the pay NOW, its about where I will be later.With the 4-5 years of job experience I have+the references I have+the 2 years of volunteer experience I have, it has NOT benefited my search in getting a job, I want a job that WILL be positive in the future and not just a waste of time.
>>382353I personally look forward to dragging the trust-fund kiddies posting in this thread from their basements and blowing their heads off.
>>382291I wouldn't call working in retail or in fast food a "job", it's more a place you spend the majority of your time doing repetitive menial tasks for small amounts of money, it provides no benefit to anyone except money in the pockets of already wealthy CEO's and investors. Nobody needs to eat fattening greasy burgers with a pund of fries and a litre of soda, no one needs to buy expensive clothes cut a certain way with a brand label on them which only last a year anyway. It's a fucking bullshit 3 ring circus sideshow of freaks, to put it bluntly.
>>382275It's not my fault you're functionally retarded. Thinking that investing 2 years of your life knitting tea cozies, instead of studying business (as I am) or some other useful degree, is a good use of your time is beyond idiocy. When I get out my average starting salary is going to be around 60-80k, that's a conservative range. What's our salary going to be after you've knit your thousandth cozy?
>>382354my bad thats 30,000 jobs.added an extra zero.
>>382354>pay mexicans proper wagesThey can't even pay US citizens proper wages, let alone Pedro the border hopper.
Because there's no grass allowed at work. Im pretty much sure that drug tests are reasons half the population under 30 isn't finding the job they 'want.'
>>382354So if a person doesn't know the value of work or has never learned how to work hard (like everyone does at there first job) you wouldn't give them the chance to learn?Thats like that "You need experience to get the job, you need the job to get experience", or rather "You need the key to open the box, you need to open the box to get the key"
>>382360How did you manage to get into the navy but then not get a chairforce job or atleast something better with military experience. OP here, seriously? Someone with your experience should have a job
>>382366Well some of us are comp0lete failures at meeting women, I have no idea what to do or when I should make a move or whatever, I just hope the girl will come onto me.tl/dr Women terrify me
>>382393>Im pretty much sure You are quite wrong. Remember the welfare testing program that went off what some jackass in Florida "believed?"
>>382393OP here, I don't do drugs, or drink.Come at me.
>>382360you sir, are a real American.
>>382366>Get married to a nice woman and have kids. Not on the feminist agenda.
>>382392And yet somehow, Pedro manages to survive... and feed his family... hmmm... maybe minimum wage and less isn't all that bad... you just need to be.. (GASP) frugal!!
lol'ing all the way to the bank at this thread.I wanna get something straight. You can't find a job ANYWHERE? Not even Mc'd's?"WAAAAA! I CAN'T GET A JOB!... (but I refuse to work at minimum wage).Seriously, grow up.>mfw I needed to get a job, drove to the first gamestop in my area, and walked in and asked for a job. I got it.
>>382407because shit happens, how about that for an answer?!
>>382407You know people in the civilian world who need message traffic handles or a JDAM reconfigured? My job flat out does not exist in the civilian world.IWhy do you think vets have such a high rate of unemployment and homelessness?Plus at the time I was a 2nd class with a pretty good career in front of me. When it was taken away I started drinking a lot and hitting the pill bottle. My point, OP, is that you area decade younger than me and have all the time in the world to make things better. Don;t be an old man like me looking back with regrets. Give up the bullshit entitlement attitude, mix with people, give working a try. I swear you will be a better, tougher man for it.
>>382393Amen to that. What is it with young people today and their addictions to these dangerous devil weeds? Why you gotta get outta your own head so bad huh boy? Now there ain't nothing wrong with keepin a flask on ya to help ya get through the day, but that ain't enough the damn hippy kids of this generation, they gotta get "high" every chance they get. It's all those God-damned video games and "ADD" pills we push on 'em since childhood, gives 'em an inability to cope with reality.
Study: Banks Could Lose Up To $185 Billion In Deposits If They Don't Address Customer Frustrationshttp://www.businessinsider.com/study-banks-could-lose-up-to-185-billion-in-deposits-2011-11#ixzz1eO0wT8cCNew Study Projects Top 10 Retail Banks to Lose $185 Billion in Deposits Over Next 12 Monthshttp://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-study-projects-top-10-retail-banks-to-lose-185-billion-in-deposits-over-next-12-months-2011-11-09Big Banks May Lose $185BThe 10 largest banks in the U.S. are in danger of losing $185 billion in deposits during the next 12 months as more customers get fed up and choose to bank elsewhere.http://www.thestreet.com/story/11314359/1/big-banks-may-lose-185b-in-awol-customers.htmlhttp://www.cg42.com/42/cg42___Publications.htmlThe nation's 10 biggest banks could stand to lose as much as $185 billion in deposits in the next year due to customer defections, according to cg42, a Wilton, Conn.-based management consulting firm that has conducted research for several of the nation's top banks. The top 10 banks hold a total of $2.04 trillion retail deposits (deposits made by consumers and small businesses), according to data from cg42, which is based on each bank's annual report [...]Out of all the big banks, Bank of America is the most vulnerable and could lose up to 10% of its customers and $42 billion in consumer deposits in the next year, the survey found. The bank's total retail deposits stand at $407 billion (while total deposits, including corporate deposits and deposits from other financial institutions, amount to nearly $1 trillion, according to FDIC data).
>>382360So you're trying to make me feel guilty for you or pity you or something? It was your own personal choice and decision to join the Navy. Don't give me the whole, "You don't have a right to complain because someone else has it worse" bullshit, there will always be people who have it worse it's up to us individually to make the best with what we have.
You're sure as hell not going to find a job living in your own filth on purpose.
>>382434No, I can't. I've applied to mcdonalds and other fast food places in my city and the closest city. Not one interview.>>382442>give working a tryAgain, this thread is about the fact that there ARE NO JOBS.I would give working a try but after sending out literally over 1 thousand applications to every job that I qualify for that I can find and only had 3 interviews, no I can't just get a job.
>>382392pedro left since that anti-illegal immigrant law went public.:D
Enjoy being professional victims the rest of your lives.Chicks really dig that.
>>381205Quite frankly, I think the OWS kids feel entitled to a well paying career, ideally related to their field of study. I know damn well I did when I graduated, but I'm still looking for that. In the mean time I'm earning a little more than minimum wage stocking shelves as seasonal work. I had no problem getting that job. It's not glamorous, it doesn't pay well, and quite frankly it's depressing. But it's a job. Those jobs are out there, especially this time of year. I think the OWS crowd is unwilling to swallow their pride and work them though. I'm going to guess that they see that sort of work as being beneath their station
>>382477>apply to retail places to seasonal jobs>call in to see if they've gone over my application and if I could set up an interview>no
>>382434>mfw you are either a neckbearded manchild or still in high schoolThe PROBLEM is in fact not that there are NO jobs, but that there are no jobs for LOTS OF PEOPLE other than shitty minimum wage jobs. PEOPLE WITH COLLEGE DEGREES SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORK MINIMUM WAGE JOBS (excepting those with completely worthless degrees and little drive or motivation). Anyone who says otherwise is both FUCKING RETARDED and a corporate apologist gutterwhore. WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE WORKING MINIMUM WAGE JOBS. That will not help recovery or anything, in fact the ONLY people it will help are investors and corporate leadership who gets to turn around THE SAME AMOUNT OF GROWTH-ADJUSTED REAL PROFITS to a LOWER MEAN AND MEDIAN WAGE. Forcing educated people to work minimum wage jobs DEVALUES LABOR. Period.Of course most of the overtly anti-OWS folk have the economic understanding of third graders so they won't be willing or able to comprehend this when they have a way to make themselves feel like they're finally better than someone, but it's worth a shot for the hypothetical open mind.
>mfw conservatives believe its ok for citizens of a first world country to work multiple jobs for low pay that barely covers rent, utilities & food
>>382475Wait, chicks don't want a man with a stable job/income? They want a dirty hippy instead?Well holy shit, let me just quit my job and live on the streets.
>>382477And here is what you are clearly missing. do you think you are the only person that settled for a shitty job? Do you honestly believe you are that much of a special snowflake?There are millions of clearly over qualified people flooding the shit job market, pretending this isnt a problem wont make it not so
if you have a car you can make bank as a newspaper carrierthere are loads of weird jobs like that where you get paid more than you'd expect because you're working at night, or outside, or whatever.applying at places that are open regular hours is a waste of time imo because of all the competition. but if the ad says work nights, that takes like 90% of your competition away off the bat. then if the ad says must be physically fit, you're down to like 1%. most newspaper delivery jobs are contract jobs where you just show up, apply, and start the next night
>>382477>Quite frankly, I think the OWS kids feel entitled to a well paying career, ideally related to their field of study. I know damn well I did when I graduated, but I'm still looking for that. In the mean time I'm earning a little more than minimum wage stocking shelves as seasonal work. I had no problem getting that job. I am in the same spot, I even have an engineering degree. Listen up kids, if you want a job out of college you need as much industry relevant experience as you can get. No working in academia with your professors doesnt count.
>>382470Have you considered the military? A life of soldiering is honorable.
>>382508>There is no jobsYou're full of shit.I moved from one state to another.I was unemployed for 2 months. Half-assed an application at McD's (Didn't even want the job), but I got hired and I'm making $1 more than minimum wage because of my work experience. It ISN'T hard to get a job.Those who bitch about it being hard are those go around saying "I HAVE FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS, I AM THE 99%!"
>>382477>It's not glamorous, it doesn't pay well, and quite frankly it's depressing. But it's a job.Oh well that makes it all right. I mean fuck quality of life, things really don't need to get better, as long as you're working...
>PEOPLE WITH COLLEGE DEGREES SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORK MINIMUM WAGE JOBSwho says?
>>381237replace Conservatives with Republicans and this is true.true conservatives like Ron Paul aren't saying 'get a job'. he's advocating allowing states to decide their own labour laws to get people back to work
>>382520Please feel free to violently overthrow the Republic or get the fuck out.Thanks.
>>382559The people claiming to be the 99% in the OWS protests.
>>382559debt collectors
>>382477Have you noticed that most of the OWS kids worldwide are white? The funny thing is that they really ARE entitled to the entire western culture and every nation within the Western sphere. The are entitled to career based well paying jobs, they are entitled to a decent sized plot of land to raise a family, they are entitled to decent food, clothes and all the necessary luxuries which Europeans have enjoyed for millenia. If I could start a society where I knew that all my decendants would be financially, physically and emotionally secure then I would start making one today. I feel that is the entire point of Western colonialization, our ancestors wanted to secure our future as a people.
>>382508>mfw I just graduated UCF with a Bachelors in Computer Science.>mfw I put my resume up on monster a day later.>mfw I'm working my first week at a company making $58,000>mfw you all are too lazy to get jobs.Maybe you guys should have gotten real degrees?Pro-tip: A Bachelors in Arts is not a real degree.Pro-Pro-tip: Not EVERYONE is meant to go to college, maybe you were meant to work a minimum wage job?
Because when they were coming of age decades ago America was still the main manufacturing and economic powerhouse of the world, because most of the rest of the world was either recovering from WWII still or was always a shit hole to begin with. They didn't have to compete with Wu Li the Chinese prison factory worker who was jailed as a political dissident because he didn't want his crappy apartment complex demolished to make way for luxury condos for high-ranking party members or Manuel the Guatamelan boy making graphic tees for pennies an hour to help his parents raise his 17 brothers and sisters, so they don't know shit about shit.Old people can go fuck themselves with a rusty rake.
>>382559I think everyone should have to work minimum wage jobs. Hell there should be a maximum wage. Put the fear of God into everyone.
>>382353The moment one of them gets shot, battle lines will be drawn, we will be at full scale class war, not this bullshit we call class war, but real fight, real looting, real death. I for one cannot waitI cannot wait either. I want this, and I've been waiting for it for some time now. It may be some more years, but damn, I'm really excited.
>>382529i make about $16/hour (CDN) after gas btw
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>>382531>industry relevant experienceSince internships are a dime a dozenAnd you need experience to get the job to get the experienceHow do you get a job if professors don't count.>>382532I'm not manly enough. I don't like that "you have to listen to me no matter what" crap either. Too many people have suggested I go military even since I was in HS.>>382536Been applying for MCD's and similar places for a year now. Had an interviews at a popeye's, didn't get a job.>>382559Well you need to have a balance of wages. Having a TON of people working low jobs doesn't help anyhting. On top of that having degree holding, experience having elders working low jobs that high school, college aged, and non college students would have doens't help.>>382578Just because you have the money and the brain to graduate in a high levle math and science degree doesn't mean someone shouldn't be able to get a job at mcdonalds.A
>>381226>There are plenty of jobs, but you just believe they are beneath you.We're overqualified for those jobs, because we can speak English, are at least vaguely aware of the existence of labor and wage laws, and aren't grateful for the chance to be practical serfs, so they don't hire us.
>>382578awww baby doesn't know those jobs are all going to china and india next year herp derp economy in the shit, just got a high paying job that'll never go anywhe..... awww shit
>>382529I can lift about 250 -300. I've applied to jobs that would require heavy lifting. I've been putting I can work all day on other applications.
>>382613same goes for low income housing> hi i'm calling about he apartment> you white?> why yes I am, thanks for asking> no white people, white people know renter's rights too well *click*
>>382520Why is he owed anything at all?