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    87 KB Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:46 No.381205  
    Why is it every time you talk to an older person about OWS or the situation with jobs right now they say "Get a damn job" or something similar? Do they automatically assume that they aren't or haven't applied for work?
    Are they not aware of the 14 million people unemployed?
    Are they not aware of the millions of 30-40 year olds who have degrees and work experience working at mcdonalds after losing their job?

    What are these jobs they thing that we can "just go get"
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:47 No.381209
    Conservatives have always had their heads buried in the sand, what else do you expect OP?
    >> !!BJiYgff8zf2 11/21/11(Mon)16:47 No.381213
    Stale copypasta.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:49 No.381226
    One thing Arabs and Americans have in common. We both hate to take minimum wage jobs.

    There are plenty of jobs, but you just believe they are beneath you.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:49 No.381230
    Just like people on here, old people know they're wrong, so they resort to stupid slogans like "get a job hippie".
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:49 No.381234
    Funny thing is, down here in Texas every single person I meet over the age of 70 are amazed that EVERY young person isn't protesting. I live in a very conservative town and most of the older generation is amazingly pro OWS and disgusted with our current government. They all seem to agree on the job market and how much a dollar will spend these days. I dunno, maybe it is a mindset that seems to have been lost on this generation that one shouldn't be happy with your government screwing you.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:49 No.381236
    >Are they not aware of the millions of 30-40 year olds who have degrees and work experience working at mcdonalds after losing their job?
    It almost as if those degrees are completely worthless or something.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:49 No.381237
    Conservatives before August 2011

    WHERE ARE THE JOBS PRESIDENT OBAMA?

    Conservatives after September 2011

    GET A JOB YOU SOCIALIST COMMIES
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:50 No.381254
    >>381226

    Absolutely untrue. There really aren't enough jobs period. Not to mention that a country that's over educated is under performing. We are letting our investment into these people's education go to waste (since education is paid for primarily by the tax payer).
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)16:56 No.381335
    University degrees just arent the same anymore

    Generic commerce degrees lands you in a highly competitive field with your superiors not retiring and you competing against people with better degrees or experience.

    Science degrees are still useful and I think any sort of engineering is near gauranteed a job.

    Liberal arts is shit, but this is has been known for decades. People act as if a general arts or hippie drum cricle majors could get you jobs. They cant and have never gotten people jobs.

    In the trades such as electricians, welders or plumbers, etc... that desperately need not only workers but SMART and young workers.

    Sadly enough, fast food places are full up. They almost always are during high employment.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:00 No.381374
    >>381335
    >people get useless degrees

    I don't see why we allow so many students to even enroll in these programs when we know they won't find a job. When competition for employment is that competitive then there should be competition for education.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:02 No.381399
    Hey, once I stop seeing help wanted signs all over fucking town, I'll stop telling the smelly hippies to get a job.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:04 No.381423
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    >>381374
    >I don't see why we allow so many students to even enroll in these programs when we know they won't find a job.

    I can give you a few good reasons...

    hehehehe
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:04 No.381429
    >>381374

    Its a mix between kids who dont know what the fuck they want to do and kids who want to make their hobbies a career.

    Both highly expensive mistakes but how can any 16 year old make the decisions to push them to their future career? You might know the general field you get into but I think kids need a great deal more hands on experience in the work place.

    Also, there is a great demand for trades people. But you need education to work in them. It doesnt matter if there are 10,000 open slots for electricians, no company is gonna risk hiring a young kid with a BA who doesnt know what the + and - mean.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:05 No.381442
    >>381399
    What town do you live in? Do they hire non-Mexicans? I'll move there.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:07 No.381459
    >>381442

    Texas, baby. We're hiring like mad right now, just not in Cultural Sensitivity fields.
    >> JackBurton !H59BjriIIg 11/21/11(Mon)17:07 No.381462
    the democrats and republicans both have created a corporatist over regulated society where business has become so expensive to start up etc that its caused excessivlely high unemployment. the old people don't understand how its much harder to find a decent job in this day and age, especially during a very severe recession. That doesn't mean you shouldn't be able to find A job. there are plenty of jobs you can work that are low paying and sometimes demeaning, but you should've thought of that before you got a worthless degree.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:07 No.381463
    >>381335
    If you go after general arts in college, its because its
    A. something you are interested in
    B. Its challenging

    No one goes "Hey, I'll take liberal arts, its easy"
    The people in "Underwater Basket Weaving" find it hard.

    Do you really think people who find liberal arts hard could get into the trades?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:08 No.381472
    >>381459
    Texas is a town? I thought it was a state.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:08 No.381478
    >>381459
    We need jobs, normal jobs.
    We need jobs for HS kids
    For college undergrads to pay for college

    We have 14 million unemployed but educated and trained people who were fired from the recession. We need jobs for the next geeneraiton
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:09 No.381488
    >>381226
    >There are plenty of jobs, but you just believe they are beneath you.

    No, there really aren't. And even if there were, a minimum wage job at McDonald's is not enough to support one person let alone a family. Is this the only way you can digest recent events? Raw denial?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:09 No.381489
    >>381472

    Fine, Austin. But I know we're hiring all over the state, so take your pick of cities.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:10 No.381494
    North Dakota
    there, now GO GET A JOB!
    >> JackBurton !H59BjriIIg 11/21/11(Mon)17:11 No.381504
    >>381489
    texas is more libertarian, so they survived the recession better than most states.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:11 No.381505
    >>381462
    Deregulation won't create jobs. Quite living in lalaland
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:11 No.381509
    >>381494

    Yeah, actually that's a really good one.

    And if Obama hadn't fucked up the pipeline deal there would be even more jobs.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:12 No.381512
    >>381489
    What are they hiring for?

    I don't need to move just to get another near minimum wage service job with no benefits or chance for advancement.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:12 No.381513
    >>381504
    Actually Perry received lots of stimulus funding.
    >> JackBurton !H59BjriIIg 11/21/11(Mon)17:12 No.381515
    >>381505
    >deregulation won't create jobs
    every economist in the world believes the minimum wage has caused excessively high unemployment.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:13 No.381526
    >>381515
    Nope.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:13 No.381528
    >>381513
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/rick-perry-stimulus-funds_n_929127.html

    He was only able to balance the budget using stimulus cash, twice. $17.4 Billion
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:14 No.381545
    >>381515

    What the fuck are you smoking. Minimum wage does kill jobs. But it does so at the cost of keeping the lowest paying jobs from dropping down to .2 cents an hour.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:14 No.381546
    But really none of this shit fucking matters. Factory work isn't coming back no matter what the fuck we do for business. Technology has finally got underway replacing human labor, we are just too fucking expensive to deal with even at slave labor. The whole fucking thing is tumbling down, we are just seeing the first tremors.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:15 No.381557
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhrvOeDxBrw

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:15 No.381558
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    older person = mature person who isn'tlazy

    why not talk to people your age who have jobs and find out the magic spell they used to get them

    effortosis!!!! TRYINGUSSS!!! NON-COMPLAINUSS!!!

    it's one of those

    YOU FUCKING PISS ANT PUSSY SHIT CUNT
    >> GamerGurl !!Pe8/IxcXVF4 11/21/11(Mon)17:16 No.381571
    >>381515
    > Remove minimum wage
    > Suddenly £1 an hour jobs pop up everywhere

    Yeah when we're living in an age where everything costs then minimum wage is a must. My dad couldn't work for £1 an hour and neither could I.

    It would actually be better to be on welfare then work for £1 an hour. At least then you get your bills paid.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:16 No.381572
    >>381463

    This is a personal anecdote but Ive met plenty of people who picked arts courses because its easier.

    I had alot of electives in my commerce program so i took arts programs for shits and giggles and they were some of the easiest course I have ever taken. If I majored in art I may even be mistaken into believing I am a genius for the high gpas i was getting.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:17 No.381577
    >>381512

    All levels dude, most way over minimum wage.

    I'm at UT and they're hiring a ton of people right now. Lots of research jobs.

    Also, minimum wage goes a lot further down here, low cost of living. But the Dakotas have us beat on that one - and oil work pays way better too...
    >> JackBurton !H59BjriIIg 11/21/11(Mon)17:17 No.381580
    >>381545
    >derp

    nobody is going to work for 20 cents an hour. there is always a natural minimum wage.

    and when labor is less so are the products and services.

    lrn2profitmargins
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:17 No.381583
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    >>381526
    Most economists believe it, though.

    And in terms of government spending, pic related.

    On the Y axis is the country's economic growth, and on the X axis is a country's ratio of gov't spending to private spending.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:17 No.381587
    Here in Lawrence, KS it's "We're too good for low-requirement jobs, we have KU at the center of town! Let's open up another shitstain bar and put another building on campus."

    Wish my car wasn't in the shitter, Topeka has more to offer me.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:18 No.381600
    >>381580

    There is no such thing as a 'natural minimum wage' that would counter act the laws of supply and demand you fucking twit. Drop the price floor on wages and they will drop, just like when you drop the price floor on any good or service.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:18 No.381603
    >>381583
    Wrong.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:19 No.381607
    >>381571
    >average wage drops to £8/day
    >people can't afford anything
    >companies lose massive amounts of money due to no spending
    >companies forced to lower prices to meet average salary
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:19 No.381610
    >>381226
    Or more likely, they are beneath every human being on the planet and don't pay enough for you to actually live in this country.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:19 No.381615
    >>381546
    BS, factory work is still around , i know a guy who makes parts with those CNC machines and they are booming with backorders.If you want some kind of production job you can find it if you are willing to learn it.
    Look its 9% unemployment, not holy shit 50%
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:20 No.381617
    >>381587

    One way bus ticket dude.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:20 No.381619
    >>381583
    The CBO disagree's with you
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/17/deregulation-job-growth_n_1099579.html

    Deregulation only mildly stimulates long-term job growth. It's not a solution for the short term.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:20 No.381620
    I live in Berlin, I get 750 euros as an intern a month while the average is about 1500. Usually with two partners in a family.

    The minimum wage is... well I dont think it exists cuase Ive met people who work 3-4 euros an hour.

    However Ive seen decent flats in mediocre neighbourhoods at 300 euros a month.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:20 No.381623
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    >mf after the Jobs for Vets thing passed

    oh man I am never going to get a job now, these companies get their tax breaks doubled if they hire a vet who has been out of work as long as me

    I am a civil engineer with a degree from one of the top ten (it bounces between 8-10) schools for my major

    I am a member of Mensa

    I have applied to 300+ jobs and can't find a job after a year.

    The average age of experience the last entry level job I applied for was 5 years. That means, on average, I am competing with people 5 years more experienced than me. Some probably have 10-15 years on me.

    I made a personal promise that if I didn't have a job by a year and a half unemployment I'd join the military. That comes up in January.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:20 No.381628
    >>381577
    yeah people here in MN are flocking to ND and ND doesn't mind advertising here because its a short move and the climates are not that different so its not like moving from TX to ND
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:22 No.381649
    >>381628

    The Dakotas is where dreams die

    You go there when you really cant do anything else
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:24 No.381668
    >>381617
    It takes a bit of start-up money to move, I'm certain you know. Turning on utilities at the new place and deposits.

    But, I'm doing what I can here. Which is mostly odd jobs on farms since we have tons around here. But, after saving enough, getting my shit out of here.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:24 No.381670
    The really funny part is if they are unemployed they're automatically disadvantaged in this job market.

    Employers are increasingly not hiring unemployed people.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:27 No.381701
    >Arkansas passes anti-immigrant bill
    >Thousands of available jobs
    >Liberals complain that the immigrants are needed for said jobs
    >Liberals then complain that they don't have jobs

    TLDR; liberalism is a mental illness
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:27 No.381702
    >>381670

    This is because the longer they are unemployed the longer they're out of experience. The employed are constantly gaining more experience, this is going to create stark contrasts in class eventually if we don't address it immediately.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:28 No.381716
    >>381670
    It's an obvious practice here.

    But I remember something on my state's level going through to punish businesses for doing that. Wonder what happened.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:28 No.381718
    >>381701

    this.

    i cleaned bathrooms for 2 years and got paid. this "they take jobs we dont want" crap is bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:28 No.381719
    Its not a permenant solution but find a location where lots of people go to hangout like a park or something and bake some cupcakes or pretzels or whatever, bring them in a basket and sell for like $1-2.

    Tax free income and not too work or creative intensive.

    Helps to not dress like a bum though
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:29 No.381724
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjJcFWqzjuo

    I'll just leave this here.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:29 No.381731
    >everybody is scared about recession
    >companies use this as an excuse to fire people
    >workplaces running on skeleton crews
    >companies making larger profits because there is less people to pay
    >everybody believes companies are falling on hard times and blames the government
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:29 No.381733
    >>381718
    MEXICAN DETECTED
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:30 No.381735
    >>381494
    Where does the money come from to go there
    Where would you stay
    And why would someone hire a college student who can't get a normal job to work with complex machinery?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:31 No.381755
    >>381558
    Um, I've been sending out about 300-400 applications a week, applying to the places the couple friends I have work, asking them if they know places that are hiring. Etc
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:35 No.381795
    >Apply for jobs
    >make callbacks
    >sending resumes and cover letters and not just normal applications
    >asking friends and family is they know of places to work
    >try to get on campus job
    >don't have enough "Financial need"
    >try to get job as farmhand
    >lol illegals

    :I
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:35 No.381797
    >>381735
    >Where does the money come from to go there
    you have nothing to sell? no person to borrow money from?

    >Where would you stay
    wherever you can
    And why would someone hire a college student who can't get a normal job to work with complex machinery?
    because they NEED people.. have almost no unemployment in ND because they need people

    get on a jobs site and start calling places in ND
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:36 No.381807
    >>381755

    Yeah but where? And for what jobs?

    The north/northeast and west coast (especially California) is dying man.. go south/midwest for work.
    >> GamerGurl !!Pe8/IxcXVF4 11/21/11(Mon)17:38 No.381820
    >>381795
    BUT HIPPIE GET A JOB!1 YOU LAZY BUM!! U FAGGOT XD I HOPE THE POLICE MOLEST YOU!!!
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:38 No.381827
    >>381795
    That's why I haven't been hired on at the local farms, instead they just call me up when something the Mexicans can't fix happens (like tractor issues), and they pay me anywhere from 80-100.

    Be great if this happened weekly instead of maybe once a month.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:38 No.381828
    >>381797
    No and no.

    I have a cheap phone which is necessary for getting calls for interviews
    I have a cheap ass shitty laptop for doing applications and college homework.
    >>381807
    1.Iowa
    2. Grocery Stores, Retail, Banks, Cable Compaines, Computer Repair, farm hand, ups, pizza delivery, dollar stores, on campus work, gas stations, liqour stores, restaurants, janitorial positions, sanitation positions, "work for the city" (mowing public land, snow removal), normal snow removal etc.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:39 No.381837
    >>381797

    Second that emotion.

    Sell as much shit as you can - start over dude. A suitcase and bus ticket can get you places. Look into shelters in the area the jobs are in. Lots of times you can live for free (not glamorous... ) while you wait for your first/second paycheck.

    Your ancestors managed to live lean, anybody can do it.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:40 No.381847
    >>381837
    This seems terribly difficult to do while also going to college full time.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:41 No.381854
    >>381619
    Funny, because my chart comes from the House of Representatives.

    http://www.house.gov/jec/ growth/function/ function.pdf
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:42 No.381864
    >>381828

    Yeah, sorry to hear that dude. From what I understand Iowa sucks for decent jobs right now.. set your eyes south and west.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:43 No.381877
    >>381847

    If you're in a major that's in demand.. just tough it out and finish.

    Otherwise... quit and get some work now while you can.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:47 No.381904
    >>381847
    >This seems terribly difficult to do while also going to college full time.
    You fucked yourself, enjoy your debt.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:49 No.381929
    >>381877
    I'm doing gen ed right now. I dont know if I want to try business again. I've always been tech savvy but I really don't know what there is for IT and computer shit. I am good at computers, terrible at complex math. Or if I should go get electircians cert, but I don't know if I'd be good at it.

    All I know is that I would puss out of super hard labor. I am a white collar worker, not a blue one.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:50 No.381939
    >>381205
    if they cant get a job they should try creating their own work.

    You know be and entrepreneurial type person.

    It can be making tea cozies or something anything.

    WHY ARE YOU WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO GIVE YOU A JOB. YOU CAN WORK FOR YOURSELF. DO ODD JOBS. ANYTHING.

    STOP BEING WHINY CUNTS.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:51 No.381954
    >>381939
    Because I don't have any ideas.

    And where would the money and confidence come from for a personal business?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:51 No.381958
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    College isn't for everyone who graduates high school. Every student seems to think it's a requirement these days: go to college or else you become homeless. We have a flood of college graduates who have pointless degrees and want a job starting at $100k. There's no place for all these kids on the workforce. They're $20k+ in debt and actually expected to pay it off with a new job that would magically appear for them, despite them having no actual skills. Deal with it, you fucked up. Manual labor jobs are aplenty.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:53 No.381971
    >>381954

    So basically, you're telling us you're an idiot who wants lots of money for nothing.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:55 No.381988
    >>381958
    Where are you getting that college students want 100k starting?
    When did they poll college students saying that.

    Also, the main reason a lot of our parents were middle class is because they had college education. Simple as that

    So if your parents, teachers, coaches, preachers, etc all tell you that this is a good idea, and it gave you success, well what else are you going to expect them to do?

    Seriously, do you expect the liberal arts majors or us non-math majors to be good enough for trades?

    >>381971
    When did I say lots of money? I want a normal middle class job, I want a normal minimum wage 7.25 job that I can work hard at and not still be making 7.25 one year later. That I want to work my way up into the 40-50 thousands, even get into the upper middle classes of 70k-100k.

    When did I say a ton of money. I am looking FOR A JOB. A job means you work. Therefore its never for nothing.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)17:56 No.381999
    >>381929

    Sounds like your confused and probably just wasting your money accumulating debt.

    You should work for a while, get your goals/values sorted out, then go back to school.

    I went to work right after high-school (well, still in high-school) and didn't go to college for 13 years, but when I did, had plenty of money to pay for it all.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:03 No.382071
    >hate school with a fiery passion
    >you better go to college anon, don't want to end up flipping burgers your whole life
    >endure years of bullshit that i never even wanted because of what I'm told it will earn me
    >get shiny new engineering degree
    >no jobs
    >just get a fucking job at McDonald's you entitled asshole what the fuck is wrong with your generation
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:05 No.382084
    >>381988

    It's not the governments job, or wall street's, to make up for where you fucked up financially. Those people were wrong to give you that advice, you're going to need more than just a college degree to get a job. Why are you listening to a preacher for financial advice anyway?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:07 No.382107
    >>381999
    >you should work for a while
    >can't get a job
    >work for a while
    >14 million unemployed
    >work for a while
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:08 No.382116
    >>382084
    When did I say I fucked up. I am not in debt, this is about how I and many people like me, can't get a job, even a minimum wage one

    But it IS the govt's fault for subsidizing colleges and driving up the cost.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:13 No.382147
    >>382107

    Not being able to find a job is entirely the job seeker's fault. Unrealistic expectations, unwillingness to move, too many obligations and burdens, etc..

    The jobs are out there, many people just aren't willing to sacrifice to get them.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:14 No.382154
    >>382147
    Everything you said is complete horse shit. It isnt backed up any any real world data
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    There are over 10,000 farming jobs open in Georgia and over 30,000 farming jobs open in Alabama.

    They all could have jobs if they wanted to.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:19 No.382193
    >>381854
    Page not found
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:21 No.382220
    >>381939

    Oh yeah I'll just do oddjobs and nit tea cozies all my life. That's a sound plan. Wtf?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:22 No.382226
    Plenty of jobs in Alabama that no one wants to do...

    http://www.pressherald.com/business/alabama-finding-legal-farm-workers-scarce-_2011-10-23.html
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:24 No.382245
    I'm 19 and I could have gone for an interview with Hungry Jacks (a burger chain) but why the fuck should I? I should have a career based job for an adult like an apprenticeship or something similar. Food service and retail is the most soul crushing, life draining, floormat enabling occupation in existence, I would rather clean toilets for minimum wage rather than deal with people over a counter.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:25 No.382251
    >>382147
    Yeah, who needs a living wage? Sacrifice, kid!
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:25 No.382257
    >>382226

    That's why we should give them amnesty and have them be tax paying citizens who work for a decent wage.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:27 No.382273
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    OP here you go. Animooted
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:27 No.382275
    >>382220
    Wow, I quit, that's some fucking entitlement right there. If it isn't the fucking answer to everything for you you fucks scoff at it. I for one welcome this economic collapse just to watch fucks like you starve to death as you won't do shit.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:28 No.382291
    >>382245
    >I'd rather have pride and starve than get a job most people had in highschool.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:29 No.382303
    Conservatives need to believe that you haven't tried to get a job. If they accept that there are people who have honestly tried to get a job and have really, truly failed, even after lowering their standards to minimum wage jobs, they're forced to accept that trickle-down economics doesn't work. So they need it to be the case that OWSers haven't really tried to find work, and you'll never convince someone that a proposition they need and want to be true is false.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:29 No.382305
    >>382226

    It's a travesty.

    Those farmers should be in prison for ever having hired black market labor in the first place. After they do their time in the pen THEN they can bitch about how much american workers charge for their labor.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:30 No.382311
    >>382275
    I look forward to it as well. People will not starve willingly. Change is only truly possible through violence, good or bad
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:30 No.382319
    and this is why you fail. Everyone else had to have a job like that at one time in their lives. But You'd rather not work at all than work in food service.
    It is called WORK because its WORK. It isn't supposed to be a god damn day in the park.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:32 No.382327
    Hey, those of you too proud to take less wages or work shit job, I hope you do starve to death so at least some other schmucks might learn from your mistakes.

    The world doesn't need you, please lie down and die.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:32 No.382328
    >>382319
    Why shouldn't work be like a walk in the park?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:32 No.382332
    >>382311

    And when the starving parasites rise up, they will be shot.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:33 No.382337
    >>382319
    so they can default on their college loans and only be able to afford the food from their shitty mcjob because they get a discount on it? So now their credit is fucked(oh hey another black mark in the job search) and they will never get out of debt, what the fuck is next?

    This ends in violence, it HAS too
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:34 No.382353
    >>382332
    >And when the starving parasites rise up, they will be shot.

    The moment one of them gets shot, battle lines will be drawn, we will be at full scale class war, not this bullshit we call class war, but real fight, real looting, real death. I for one cannot wait
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:34 No.382354
    >>382182
    us southerners don't lazy shit stain hippies. We rather pay a Mexican proper wages then hire little pussies.

    but you are correct, and that just in farming, probably another 300,000 in the actual work force available.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:34 No.382358
    >>382327
    If the farmers weren't breaking the law by hiring illegals, shit jobs would pay better and Americans would work them.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:34 No.382360
    >>382245
    I am 29. I was in the navy and got out when i shattered my knee on the flightline. I bus tables 50 hours a week until I can find something else. There isn't anything here, but I work hard and I keep my head up, because I have dignity and honor. You are everything wrong with this nation.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:35 No.382366
    Goddamn it. Quit your whining and just get a job. Work hard every day. Get married to a nice woman and have kids.

    Now that's just real-world wisdom right there. I don't understand why some people gotta go and complicate the issue, when the universal answer to happiness is all there real plain and simple. It's all of a few short steps.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:35 No.382368
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    >>382337

    Bring it on, peasants.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:35 No.382374
    >>382319
    OP here, I've worked in food service, customer service, janitorial, and in a pharmacy. I've been working since age 14 and only recently been unemployed. I've done that, I want job security, I want to be able to go to work, work hard, not make mistakes, and work there for a couple years. I want a job that allows for advancement.

    Its not about the pay NOW, its about where I will be later.

    With the 4-5 years of job experience I have+the references I have+the 2 years of volunteer experience I have, it has NOT benefited my search in getting a job, I want a job that WILL be positive in the future and not just a waste of time.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:35 No.382377
    >>382353
    I personally look forward to dragging the trust-fund kiddies posting in this thread from their basements and blowing their heads off.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:36 No.382384
    >>382291
    I wouldn't call working in retail or in fast food a "job", it's more a place you spend the majority of your time doing repetitive menial tasks for small amounts of money, it provides no benefit to anyone except money in the pockets of already wealthy CEO's and investors. Nobody needs to eat fattening greasy burgers with a pund of fries and a litre of soda, no one needs to buy expensive clothes cut a certain way with a brand label on them which only last a year anyway. It's a fucking bullshit 3 ring circus sideshow of freaks, to put it bluntly.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:36 No.382385
    >>382275

    It's not my fault you're functionally retarded. Thinking that investing 2 years of your life knitting tea cozies, instead of studying business (as I am) or some other useful degree, is a good use of your time is beyond idiocy. When I get out my average starting salary is going to be around 60-80k, that's a conservative range. What's our salary going to be after you've knit your thousandth cozy?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:36 No.382386
    >>382354
    my bad thats 30,000 jobs.

    added an extra zero.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:36 No.382392
    >>382354
    >pay mexicans proper wages

    They can't even pay US citizens proper wages, let alone Pedro the border hopper.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:36 No.382393
    Because there's no grass allowed at work.

    Im pretty much sure that drug tests are reasons half the population under 30 isn't finding the job they 'want.'
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:37 No.382397
    >>382354
    So if a person doesn't know the value of work or has never learned how to work hard (like everyone does at there first job) you wouldn't give them the chance to learn?

    Thats like that "You need experience to get the job, you need the job to get experience", or rather "You need the key to open the box, you need to open the box to get the key"
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:37 No.382407
    >>382360
    How did you manage to get into the navy but then not get a chairforce job or atleast something better with military experience. OP here, seriously? Someone with your experience should have a job
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:38 No.382409
    >>382366
    Well some of us are comp0lete failures at meeting women, I have no idea what to do or when I should make a move or whatever, I just hope the girl will come onto me.
    tl/dr Women terrify me
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:38 No.382414
    >>382393
    >Im pretty much sure

    You are quite wrong. Remember the welfare testing program that went off what some jackass in Florida "believed?"
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:38 No.382416
    >>382393
    OP here, I don't do drugs, or drink.


    Come at me.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:39 No.382418
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    >>382360

    you sir, are a real American.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:39 No.382421
    >>382366
    >Get married to a nice woman and have kids.

    Not on the feminist agenda.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:40 No.382432
    >>382392

    And yet somehow, Pedro manages to survive... and feed his family... hmmm... maybe minimum wage and less isn't all that bad... you just need to be.. (GASP) frugal!!
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:40 No.382434
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    lol'ing all the way to the bank at this thread.

    I wanna get something straight. You can't find a job ANYWHERE? Not even Mc'd's?

    "WAAAAA! I CAN'T GET A JOB!... (but I refuse to work at minimum wage).

    Seriously, grow up.

    >mfw I needed to get a job, drove to the first gamestop in my area, and walked in and asked for a job. I got it.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:41 No.382440
    >>382407
    because shit happens, how about that for an answer?!
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:41 No.382442
    >>382407
    You know people in the civilian world who need message traffic handles or a JDAM reconfigured? My job flat out does not exist in the civilian world.I
    Why do you think vets have such a high rate of unemployment and homelessness?
    Plus at the time I was a 2nd class with a pretty good career in front of me. When it was taken away I started drinking a lot and hitting the pill bottle.
    My point, OP, is that you area decade younger than me and have all the time in the world to make things better. Don;t be an old man like me looking back with regrets. Give up the bullshit entitlement attitude, mix with people, give working a try. I swear you will be a better, tougher man for it.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:42 No.382446
    >>382393
    Amen to that. What is it with young people today and their addictions to these dangerous devil weeds? Why you gotta get outta your own head so bad huh boy? Now there ain't nothing wrong with keepin a flask on ya to help ya get through the day, but that ain't enough the damn hippy kids of this generation, they gotta get "high" every chance they get. It's all those God-damned video games and "ADD" pills we push on 'em since childhood, gives 'em an inability to cope with reality.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:42 No.382451
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    Study: Banks Could Lose Up To $185 Billion In Deposits If They Don't Address Customer Frustrations

    http://www.businessinsider.com/study-banks-could-lose-up-to-185-billion-in-deposits-2011-11#ixzz1eO0
    wT8cC

    New Study Projects Top 10 Retail Banks to Lose $185 Billion in Deposits Over Next 12 Months

    http://www.marketwatch.com/story/new-study-projects-top-10-retail-banks-to-lose-185-billion-in-depos
    its-over-next-12-months-2011-11-09


    Big Banks May Lose $185B

    The 10 largest banks in the U.S. are in danger of losing $185 billion in deposits during the next 12 months as more customers get fed up and choose to bank elsewhere.

    http://www.thestreet.com/story/11314359/1/big-banks-may-lose-185b-in-awol-customers.html


    http://www.cg42.com/42/cg42___Publications.html

    The nation's 10 biggest banks could stand to lose as much as $185 billion in deposits in the next year due to customer defections, according to cg42, a Wilton, Conn.-based management consulting firm that has conducted research for several of the nation's top banks. The top 10 banks hold a total of $2.04 trillion retail deposits (deposits made by consumers and small businesses), according to data from cg42, which is based on each bank's annual report [...]

    Out of all the big banks, Bank of America is the most vulnerable and could lose up to 10% of its customers and $42 billion in consumer deposits in the next year, the survey found. The bank's total retail deposits stand at $407 billion (while total deposits, including corporate deposits and deposits from other financial institutions, amount to nearly $1 trillion, according to FDIC data).
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:42 No.382456
    >>382360
    So you're trying to make me feel guilty for you or pity you or something? It was your own personal choice and decision to join the Navy. Don't give me the whole, "You don't have a right to complain because someone else has it worse" bullshit, there will always be people who have it worse it's up to us individually to make the best with what we have.
    >> ImplyingImplications !!maaS/hB0pVp 11/21/11(Mon)18:44 No.382469
    You're sure as hell not going to find a job living in your own filth on purpose.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:44 No.382470
    >>382434
    No, I can't. I've applied to mcdonalds and other fast food places in my city and the closest city. Not one interview.
    >>382442
    >give working a try
    Again, this thread is about the fact that there ARE NO JOBS.

    I would give working a try but after sending out literally over 1 thousand applications to every job that I qualify for that I can find and only had 3 interviews, no I can't just get a job.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:44 No.382472
    >>382392
    pedro left since that anti-illegal immigrant law went public.
    :D
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:44 No.382475
    Enjoy being professional victims the rest of your lives.

    Chicks really dig that.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:44 No.382477
    >>381205

    Quite frankly, I think the OWS kids feel entitled to a well paying career, ideally related to their field of study. I know damn well I did when I graduated, but I'm still looking for that. In the mean time I'm earning a little more than minimum wage stocking shelves as seasonal work. I had no problem getting that job.

    It's not glamorous, it doesn't pay well, and quite frankly it's depressing. But it's a job. Those jobs are out there, especially this time of year. I think the OWS crowd is unwilling to swallow their pride and work them though. I'm going to guess that they see that sort of work as being beneath their station
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:46 No.382487
    >>382477
    >apply to retail places to seasonal jobs
    >call in to see if they've gone over my application and if I could set up an interview
    >no
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:48 No.382508
    >>382434
    >mfw you are either a neckbearded manchild or still in high school

    The PROBLEM is in fact not that there are NO jobs, but that there are no jobs for LOTS OF PEOPLE other than shitty minimum wage jobs. PEOPLE WITH COLLEGE DEGREES SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORK MINIMUM WAGE JOBS (excepting those with completely worthless degrees and little drive or motivation). Anyone who says otherwise is both FUCKING RETARDED and a corporate apologist gutterwhore. WE DO NOT NEED MORE PEOPLE WORKING MINIMUM WAGE JOBS. That will not help recovery or anything, in fact the ONLY people it will help are investors and corporate leadership who gets to turn around THE SAME AMOUNT OF GROWTH-ADJUSTED REAL PROFITS to a LOWER MEAN AND MEDIAN WAGE. Forcing educated people to work minimum wage jobs DEVALUES LABOR. Period.

    Of course most of the overtly anti-OWS folk have the economic understanding of third graders so they won't be willing or able to comprehend this when they have a way to make themselves feel like they're finally better than someone, but it's worth a shot for the hypothetical open mind.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:48 No.382520
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    >mfw conservatives believe its ok for citizens of a first world country to work multiple jobs for low pay that barely covers rent, utilities & food
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:49 No.382521
    >>382475
    Wait, chicks don't want a man with a stable job/income? They want a dirty hippy instead?

    Well holy shit, let me just quit my job and live on the streets.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:49 No.382524
    >>382477
    And here is what you are clearly missing. do you think you are the only person that settled for a shitty job? Do you honestly believe you are that much of a special snowflake?

    There are millions of clearly over qualified people flooding the shit job market, pretending this isnt a problem wont make it not so
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:49 No.382529
    if you have a car you can make bank as a newspaper carrier

    there are loads of weird jobs like that where you get paid more than you'd expect because you're working at night, or outside, or whatever.

    applying at places that are open regular hours is a waste of time imo because of all the competition. but if the ad says work nights, that takes like 90% of your competition away off the bat. then if the ad says must be physically fit, you're down to like 1%.

    most newspaper delivery jobs are contract jobs where you just show up, apply, and start the next night
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:49 No.382531
    >>382477
    >Quite frankly, I think the OWS kids feel entitled to a well paying career, ideally related to their field of study. I know damn well I did when I graduated, but I'm still looking for that. In the mean time I'm earning a little more than minimum wage stocking shelves as seasonal work. I had no problem getting that job.

    I am in the same spot, I even have an engineering degree. Listen up kids, if you want a job out of college you need as much industry relevant experience as you can get. No working in academia with your professors doesnt count.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:49 No.382532
    >>382470
    Have you considered the military? A life of soldiering is honorable.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:50 No.382536
    >>382508
    >There is no jobs

    You're full of shit.

    I moved from one state to another.

    I was unemployed for 2 months. Half-assed an application at McD's (Didn't even want the job), but I got hired and I'm making $1 more than minimum wage because of my work experience. It ISN'T hard to get a job.

    Those who bitch about it being hard are those go around saying "I HAVE FIRST WORLD PROBLEMS, I AM THE 99%!"
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:50 No.382543
    >>382477
    >It's not glamorous, it doesn't pay well, and quite frankly it's depressing. But it's a job.
    Oh well that makes it all right. I mean fuck quality of life, things really don't need to get better, as long as you're working...
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:51 No.382559
    >PEOPLE WITH COLLEGE DEGREES SHOULD NOT HAVE TO WORK MINIMUM WAGE JOBS

    who says?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:52 No.382564
    >>381237

    replace Conservatives with Republicans and this is true.

    true conservatives like Ron Paul aren't saying 'get a job'. he's advocating allowing states to decide their own labour laws to get people back to work
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:52 No.382565
    >>382520

    Please feel free to violently overthrow the Republic or get the fuck out.

    Thanks.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:52 No.382567
    >>382559
    The people claiming to be the 99% in the OWS protests.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:52 No.382569
    >>382559
    debt collectors
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:53 No.382575
    >>382477
    Have you noticed that most of the OWS kids worldwide are white? The funny thing is that they really ARE entitled to the entire western culture and every nation within the Western sphere. The are entitled to career based well paying jobs, they are entitled to a decent sized plot of land to raise a family, they are entitled to decent food, clothes and all the necessary luxuries which Europeans have enjoyed for millenia. If I could start a society where I knew that all my decendants would be financially, physically and emotionally secure then I would start making one today. I feel that is the entire point of Western colonialization, our ancestors wanted to secure our future as a people.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:53 No.382578
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    >>382508
    >mfw I just graduated UCF with a Bachelors in Computer Science.
    >mfw I put my resume up on monster a day later.
    >mfw I'm working my first week at a company making $58,000
    >mfw you all are too lazy to get jobs.

    Maybe you guys should have gotten real degrees?

    Pro-tip: A Bachelors in Arts is not a real degree.

    Pro-Pro-tip: Not EVERYONE is meant to go to college, maybe you were meant to work a minimum wage job?
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:53 No.382582
    Because when they were coming of age decades ago America was still the main manufacturing and economic powerhouse of the world, because most of the rest of the world was either recovering from WWII still or was always a shit hole to begin with. They didn't have to compete with Wu Li the Chinese prison factory worker who was jailed as a political dissident because he didn't want his crappy apartment complex demolished to make way for luxury condos for high-ranking party members or Manuel the Guatamelan boy making graphic tees for pennies an hour to help his parents raise his 17 brothers and sisters, so they don't know shit about shit.

    Old people can go fuck themselves with a rusty rake.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:54 No.382590
    >>382559
    I think everyone should have to work minimum wage jobs. Hell there should be a maximum wage. Put the fear of God into everyone.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:55 No.382596
    >>382353


    The moment one of them gets shot, battle lines will be drawn, we will be at full scale class war, not this bullshit we call class war, but real fight, real looting, real death. I for one cannot wait

    I cannot wait either. I want this, and I've been waiting for it for some time now. It may be some more years, but damn, I'm really excited.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:55 No.382598
    >>382529

    i make about $16/hour (CDN) after gas btw
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:55 No.382605
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    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:55 No.382607
    >>382531
    >industry relevant experience

    Since internships are a dime a dozen
    And you need experience to get the job to get the experience
    How do you get a job if professors don't count.

    >>382532
    I'm not manly enough. I don't like that "you have to listen to me no matter what" crap either. Too many people have suggested I go military even since I was in HS.

    >>382536
    Been applying for MCD's and similar places for a year now. Had an interviews at a popeye's, didn't get a job.

    >>382559
    Well you need to have a balance of wages. Having a TON of people working low jobs doesn't help anyhting. On top of that having degree holding, experience having elders working low jobs that high school, college aged, and non college students would have doens't help.

    >>382578
    Just because you have the money and the brain to graduate in a high levle math and science degree doesn't mean someone shouldn't be able to get a job at mcdonalds.

    A
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:56 No.382613
    >>381226

    >There are plenty of jobs, but you just believe they are beneath you.

    We're overqualified for those jobs, because we can speak English, are at least vaguely aware of the existence of labor and wage laws, and aren't grateful for the chance to be practical serfs, so they don't hire us.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:56 No.382614
    >>382578

    awww baby doesn't know those jobs are all going to china and india next year

    herp derp economy in the shit, just got a high paying job that'll never go anywhe..... awww shit
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:57 No.382622
    >>382529
    I can lift about 250 -300. I've applied to jobs that would require heavy lifting. I've been putting I can work all day on other applications.
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:58 No.382635
    >>382613

    same goes for low income housing

    > hi i'm calling about he apartment
    > you white?
    > why yes I am, thanks for asking
    > no white people, white people know renter's rights too well
    *click*
    >> Anonymous 11/21/11(Mon)18:58 No.382638
    >>382520
    Why is he owed anything at all?



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