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The military is for the bottom feeders of the USA. Nobody really cares what they do or what happens to them. Most people are just glad they do not have to do that shit.

Well, both threw their lives away anyway.

I don't really see a problem

Rofl, comparing a mistake made in combat to a mistake made in your office chair. Shut the fuck up noob.

>>379775037
>>379775116
this is what some people actually think and believe.

>no pity for a treacherous coward

yes, candy-assgot shouldnt have told US secrets.

>>379775037
yea people in the military are usually people who can't get a real job in society, and are scum.
no one cares if they die cause that's what they chose.
fighting their invisible wars and shit.
fuck each and every one of them.
damn sheep

>>379775324

Wasn't a mistake, the fucker exposed valuable information intentionally. If anyone died because of the stuff he leaked, he would be looking at death for treason.

>>379774442
Left:punished for being stupid
Right:punished for being a traitor

See the difference? I didn't think so.

Well the military is fucked and commits crime no doubt but even with some of fucked up things our military does it's still like a million times more merciful than our enemies.

At least beautiful white people aren't dieing.

Stupid ni­gger is messing with shit. The Geneva Convention is a facade.
The US commits as many war crimes as it deems necessary to get what it wants.

It constantly happened in the past, it happens all the time now, and it will always happen in the future. Get used to it, fa­ggots.

USA = Orkz in Warhammer 40k
Only thing that matters is that there's a war going, doesnt really matter why and how its fought...

>>379775615
2/10

Sgt. Wuterich was fighting for his country in the belief that he did the right thing.
Pvt. Manning betrayed his country and he knew that he would be punished for his crime.
So justice was served.

>>379775753
Go watch more CNN propaganda you fucking fool

>>379775753
true, at least with us we will end you with a bullet to the head. quick and nearly painless.
the other side? pfft., they will chop off your nose and tongue first then cut your head off with a dull knife.
and they don't do a clean job cutting your head off either.
it's no clean cut man

>>379775765

As long as 'merica whoops some sandni­gger ass, I'm as happy as a cow getting fucked by horse with a dead baby in its mouth.

Marine here. If an engagement has occurred before entering the house they has reason to believe that if the locals inhabiting the house are not completely passive that they have malicious intent (depending on the year and ROE) Only recently has it turned into the Hearts and Minds BS. If the people in the house acted in a hostile manner, even if they were unarmed, ie attempted to notify attackers that US forces were in their house they were in the right. However when word got out, it became a PR issue and if they did not do "something" about it then there would have been a huge public outcry.

Desk chair jockey leaked classified documents, whether moral or not is not the issue. If you have a Secret clearance or higher you sign an acknowledgement that if you do anything like he did you understand you are knowingly consenting to charges to be determined such as treason and espionage.

No good deed goes unpunished, basically. If you want to save everyone from their sins, then you have to be ready to die for a bunch of grateful persecuting assholes. That's why people loved the fuck outta Jesus for so long. He was all "I'm calling all ya'll out for your bullshit and the bullshit goin' on this country. Ya'll are fuckin' dumbasses" and the bad Jews were like, "Yo stfu Jesus, I'm tryin' to sodomize my neighbor's wife hea'. Get crucified, bitch".

So now we got this Pvt. Manning guy all like "Yo, fuck this bullshit. This needs to end now!" The army General's don't see it that way. They're thinkin' this guy is Officer Buzzkill and came to end the party. Unfortunately, their idea of a party is gangbangin' foreigners' wives and daughters then blowin' their shit up from launching a damn missile, mortar, or artillery shell from the other side of mountain. You all saw those videos. Our boys turn to big gaping pussies in a real fight when they know they got a 50-50 chance of dying.

So, Pvt. Manning, though you will suffer for our sins, I will salute you as a true man of peace who strove to establish justice and truth on this planet. I am truly grateful for standing up for mankind.

I'm in the army and totally agree with pvt manning. If any of my soldiers where to do any stupid shit like killing innocent civys i would have them do time in Leavenworth. The fact that he got thrown in prison for outing something that this fucked up country likes to hide is exactly why the rest of the world hates us. So to him i say bravo for trying to make a change. oh and Btw >>379775615
>>379775116
>>379775037
Fags that couldnt man up and actually say this kind of bs to a Delta or Green Beret

>>379776140
very true
And he got off easy too.
If he did this back then.
they woulda executed him.

>>379775762

The global opinion apparently matters somewhat, look at Libya there was a big long lull in combat where both sides were waiting for the other side to do something stupid on camera.

Eventually Brittish dude gets shot (from fighting shoulder to shoulder with rebels heuheuheu) and they turn him into a hero so they can rofl stomp the country.

Nothing new, happens every fucking war

>>379776262
ohh you got trolled easily

>>379776035

"hmm, whats the best way to protect the ones at home that i love? better kill 24 unarmed civilians in their own homes"

Hitler also did what he belived was best for his country and his people, doens't justify it

>>379776140
True, but that's not what happened at Haditha.

The civies were taken out into the street, made to kneel down, and then shot.

There is a really good documentary about it where all the marines were played by ACTUAL ex-marines.

Made from some pretty fucking baw moments :(

>>379774442
Wuterichs defense was
"My squad took my order 'shoot first ask questions later' out of context. " I shit you not.

So he admits to ORDERING his squad to shoot first ask questions later
He admits to ORDERING them to attack that house

Let his ass rot in jail and let Bradley Manning go free, he didnt do shit.

The Sarge could be justified, as the >>379776140 semper candy-ass here points out. The private, on the other hand, revealed military documents and other classified shit.
One directly harms the US, the other harms sandn­iggers. Nobody cares about sandn­iggers.

Its a matter of turning on your own people versus attacking others. The time for the crime of turning on your own should be much higher than outside of that. Albeit in both of these cases death sentence should be an option.

>>379776035
The Nazi comparisons to you and your ilk are rather trite.... but I can't think of a better one.

Vee vere juzt folloving zee orderss!

>>379776458
You can not judge the man on the battlefield.
It is the man who sits in the chair and make the decisions that you should judge.

Is this justice in the sense of the letter of the law or some technocratic shit like that? Yes, this is justice.

Is this justice in the broader, humanistic sense of the word? Not really, no, and everyone knows it. But, funnily enough, there seem to be a lot of people nowadays who hold the belief that we don't live in a feudal society anymore, and that those in power, whether political or military power, do not make their own rules.

>>379776251

This.

Though I coulda done without the Christian symbolism.

>>379774442
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0870211/

For those who are interested in one treatment of the incident. Using actual military personnel to play the military personnel, quite a clever idea.

>>379776703

did he have orders to drag out 24 civilians on the streets and execute them? no, and even so a decent man would've refused that order

Frank Wuterich is just a bad man, just like powerabusing cops, corrupt politicans and murderers and rapists.

>>379776647
bahahah holy shit
are they really that dense to take that so literal?
do they even teach you to have morals in the military?
"My squad took my order 'shoot first ask questions later' out of context. "
i dunno, i just don't believe that's what happened.
nobody is that stupid.
he just basically called his squad stupid.

>>379776418
>Newcandy-ass doesnt recognize an obvious samecandy-ass. Then wants to talk about getting trolled.

Marine here, I know a Marine that was on SSgt (GET THE FUCKING RANK RIGHT) Wuterich's squad. He killed at least 3 people, one was armed, two were next to him. He did what ANY person would have done in that same situation. Fog of war. Shit happens. The others, I can't testify about that.

Sounds like US law after all

I don't care. I hate this world.

>>379777017
And by "any" person, you mean any person illegally entering someone's home with an automatic weapon, with accomplices outnumbering the people inside.

You fucking USMC nitwits are cowards.

On the other hand, i think the manning dude got what was coming to him.
I mean they make you sign shit and swear to not do what he did.
he didn't listen.
he fucked himself over.
Don't ever try to be a hero.

>>379777017

come on man, use your god damn brain

why the HELL would a man capable of killing innocent people tell the truth about something that would get him in trouble?

>>379774442
No It's not.

The guy on the left is Jewish so he gets off basically with a slap on the wrist.

The guy on the right is not Jewish so he gets whatever the fuck the maximum penalty is, no if no buts.

thisiswhyIhateAmerica.jpg

I seriously hope people who say Manning is a traitor were trolling. He exposed the truth about the war for everyone to see, while the US government preferred to keep the atrocities they committed secret. Instead of focusing on the crimes commited by the army, everyone is focusing on the messenger. Pathetic.

>>379776939
"and ordered his men to shoot and blast indiscriminately at Iraqi civilians. Wuterich was charged with nine counts of manslaughter, among other charges, and is one of eight Marines initially charged. None has been convicted.

"Prosecutors said he lost control after seeing the body of his friend blown apart by the bomb and led his men on a rampage in which they stormed two nearby homes, blasting their way in with gunfire and grenades. Among the dead were women, children and elderly, including a man in a wheelchair."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2012/01/23/145653971/marine-accused-of-killing-iraqi-civilians-i
n-haditha-reaches-plea-deal

>>379777094
More and more everyday this

Man, I dunno about SSgt Wuterich. My friend went into the room, there was 3 guys, together, one had an AK-47. He sprayed all 3 of them with his SAW. Just seconds before, in the same house, he walked into a room to find an AK-47 in his face. He killed that guy. It was a combat situation. 3 guys, together and one has a weapon, you shoot all of those fuckers. That simple. You neckbeards have no concept of combat. Shit happens, and no innocent civvie should get killed, but it happens. The insurgents fight dirty. Civilians will get killed. War is hell.

OMFG, JEWS AND CORRUPT POLITICIANS AND HERPA DERPA DING DONG.

Get the fuck over it, candy-assgots. Until you fight for your life and the freedom of others on a daily basis for a year or more, you can't judge what happens in a combat zone. The dude had a lapse of judgement. Stateside, that might have meant a speeding ticket. In a warzone, that means people die. The stakes are higher, the consequences are higher.

Manning, on the other hand, sat in a comfortable little office, safe from all the dangers, and broke his oath--and the law--willingly. So, yeah. It's justice.

get

>>379777347
>>379777437
>>379777437
dude he's a fucking traitor no matter what.
If his whole goal for joining the army was just to expose secrets than he is a fucking traitor.

>>379777596
If they were with armed insurgents then remove the term "innocent" from civilians

Yes, a hadji exterminator is better than a traitor. I spent 3 years in Iraq I have alot of bitterness towards them.

>>379777596
There were no weapons in the house. They were a bunch of unarmed civilians. There was no reason to assume there were hostiles in the building.

LOL!
> HERPA DERPA DING DONG.

>>379777846

They weren't. There was 2 unarmed civilians pulled in with an armed insurgent. There's 3 people in a room, together, you shoot all of them unless they are clearly surrendering. They weren't, my friend said. They all got sprayed.

I'm not defending SSgt Wuterich. If he's guilty of murder, then myself and any other Marine would gladly help tie his noose to hang him.

>>379777596
He ADMITTED in court to saying "Shoot first ask questions lager"

That's all anyone needs to know.

>>379777741
No it's not you brainwashed Faggot.
Wuterich killed innocent people in cold blood simply because he couldn't handle the fact that in a warzone, the "good guys" die too. Typical emotional basket case fucktard... kind of like yourself.

Manning on the other hand did what he did to STOP stupid shit like what Wuterich did. How can that be a more serious crime?

You are a potato kid. Go baww to your blow up anime doll and fap on its face.

>>379778178
SSgt Wuterich made a mistake.
and should be punished, not killed.
that fucking traitor on the other hand should be hung

>>379778178
Then they got what was coming to them

>>379777908
Nope. You're the traitor. Fighting for empire is unAmerican.

>>379778380
Murdering one person is a mistake.
Murdering nine is not a mistake.

>>379777777

>>379778423
I was a Civilian Police Trainer employed by Dyncorp. I got out of the Military too early to be in the invasion.

I think the real traitors are the politicians. We had no fucking business being in Iraq to begin with.
>Herpa derpa mass destruction cloud pictursz. lol lets war!

>>379777815

Don't even know what to say to you. No army should be allowed to hide war crimes, or commit them for that matter. What he did was right, the law might claim he is a traitor but civilized countries all over the world are praising this man for his courage, not the authorities for laying down the law on him.

>>379776262
hey guias its pfc cocknibbler^

>>379778380
manning is a traitor to the U.S. Gov't
But a damn hero to the people of the U.S.

He is going to rot in a military prison FOR LIFE
all he did was give NON ESSENTIAL secrets to the US public. So If you think the govn't has the right to lie to you and hide things from you then yes manning deserves prison.
if you like free information and a govn't that isn't corrupt then he does not deserve jail.


while guterich gets to live a normal life.

>>379774442
Of course not. I'M not in a position to fix it. I'm not even in a position to influence it. Are you?

>>379777908

Go to save country 6,000 miles away from evil dictator. End up hating them all and wanting them dead. Kill thousands more than evil dictator did. Call them ungrateful hadjis and leave. Declare victory. Repeat.

>>379778615
This! did anyone go to jail for this shit?

It is really alarming how many people on /b/ are calling for Manning's blood.

You really do want to live in a country that commits crimes against humanity (I think this has gone pretty fucking far past "war crime") and punishes those who expose it, don't you?

I really do hope someone kills you and gets protected, promoted, and called a hero for it.

>>379778615
dis

Look-Manning did not find evidence of a crime and act as a whistleblower to expose the crime. He didn't take suspicions to the proper authorities, so releasing the info was NOT a response to a coverup.

What he did was collect as much secret information as he could and indiscriminately release it. He did it to cause as much intentional damage as he could.

Let him stay in solitary. Putting him in GP just gives him cocks to suck, which is what the candy-assgot wants anyway.

>>379778970
Under the constitutional definition he is not a traitor. If acting to expose the truth and expose evil is treason let us all become traitors.

>>379779049
I was only a Police Trainer. I spent 3 years in that shit hole atlease I got paid good. I came back with $630,000-non-taxable.

all of the arguments for bradley manning are irrelevant...

when you sign up to be in military intel and given a top secret clearance you sign non-disclosure agreements that say you wont release material..

you are told plenty of times how serious it is, how important opsec is and the penalities for releasing classified material...

the kid knew what he was doing..hes an idiot

>>379778983
if you happen to be a us citizen born and raised you have every chance of fixing this, if only you had the motivation. Sgt. should have gotten a heavier sentence, but he didn't commit treason like the Private did.

>>379779118
>>379779252

http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/26030573/ns/today-today_people/t/author-claims-bush-knew-iraq-had-no-w
md/#.TzKa8MX2bNU

By Suskind, a balanced reporter and Pulitzer prize winner (not a tin hat). Bush KNEW that there were no reasons to invade Iraq. It is fucking outrageous but of course, that gets pushed to the back while "Cute! Puppies" plays on your favorite news station. Wake up americunts.

>millions of other documents exposing war crimes
>millions of other documents
>millions

riiiiiiiiiiiight

Invade a country that pose no threat to the American people after sanctions that killed 500.000 Iraqi children because they don't play ball like the Saudis.

Murdering 24 civilians in cold blood.

Not a war crime, that's a mother fucking hero.

An "insurgent" witnessing his whole family blown to pieces by the bombs of freedom, a god damn terrorist.

I wish all American troops a slow and painful death and if I get the chance to blow myself up taking out a dozen jarheads I would gladly do it.

Manning should be hanged though, fucking traitor.

>>379780012
It was millions. Look it up dickbrain

It is not justice.
But war isn't about honor or justice any more.
It's about misplaced morals and oil.
Bring me back to the good old days when to fight was to gain honor on the field of victory, and not to be spat on by your fellow man and be disgusted with the wretched soul you've become.

Yes.

Sgt. WhatsHisFace did something common in war. Although there are rules of engagment, those rules are a grey area when it comes to actual combat and so it blures a person's judgment. Therefore the consiquences are also blurred. I believe he got what he deserved.

Pvt. Faggot. The rules of information are crystal clear and so are the consiquences. Whatever the information is or was reguardless of content is kept behind lock and key for a reason. That information can be used against the US, impyling that the content can be twisted....because we all know how reporters are! He should be court martialed, for civiilians that just means COURT....you can go to court for just about anything...i.e. sleeping on the job.

The PVT is lucky he is facing life in prison and not facing a noose! Seriously! That crime is punishable by death! These days it is horrific to think of that, but any other time in history he would have stood in a fireing range.

For his sake he better have a damn good lawyer. But I seriously hope he gets hung, not for 'Merica but for the rest of use who know how to shut the fuck up.

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS WAR CRIMES AGAINST FILTHY RAG-HEADS!!
>dealwithit.jpg

This thread is why I love civilians. It's like watching cats follow a laser pointer and having no idea their owner is laughing it up from a distance.

>>379779411
There is a process, by willingly exposing all of the information, to everyone, any possible security threats involved in his unregulated release of information are open and alive, whereas if he had taken this information to the appropriate military authorities and expressed his feelings, they could have kept any valuable secrets hidden and punished those responsible. If he convinced the court he was merely trying to find justice they may take it into consideration, but according to the letter of the law, he's guilty.

I'll just leave this here...

>>379780286

You idiot. War was never about justice or honor. It's about how much firepower, strength, or guile you can bring to bear against your enemy. The person who uses overwhelming might combined with deception will always triumph over those with "honor."

>>379780313

Lol Pvt. F­ag's lawyer said the pvt was distressed because he was gay, and released the info because he was confused about his gayness. True story.

I heard sandroody-poos like golden showers.
>>379780617

>>379774442
Don't ask questions, don't speak out.
Repeat after me, "I am free."

>>379779352
Actually, he did release a video of a helicopter blowing the shit out of a bunch of reporters. This was his primary concern. He tried to use his chain of command to report this, but got nowhere.

Aside from that, he released evidence of Egyptian torture personnel being trained by the CIA, the US supporting wage quashing in Haiti on behalf of multinational corporations, the fact that the US DOES keep a body count in Iraq and Afghanistan (as opposed to what we have been told by two successive presidents), I could go on, but you obviously do not care about what criminal secrets your government keeps from you, you just want to see a queer kid whose morality makes you uncomfortable and whose sexuality makes you question your own get punished so you can feel safe and straight, never once having to question your complicity in murder or your own sexuality.

Also, can you IMAGINE what that woman is thinking in that pic? "Oh God, I'm going to have to have sex with this fat, necrotizing piece of scar tissue!"

You mean sandroody-poos deserve justice and equality? Fuck that! I say force feed them pork and destroy their religion.

>>379780286
Those days never existed... The common people are sent to the slaughter over any slight insult to their leader and they always have been, sure back in the old days soldiers were respected, but conversely they were probably just feared.

>>379780588
Except, he did do that. He went to his chain of command and got the cold shoulder. Rather than be complicit in the coverup of MURDER, he decided to do something about it.

I'm guessing that threatens your sense of masculinity since you would be too much of a coward to do that, and instead would just hunker back to your desk with a meek "yes sir." So therefore, you have to argue that his actions were not, in fact, courageous, just so you can still feel like you have a bigger cock than the gay kid who was much braver than you'll ever be.

>>379777908

>mfw your filename
>yfw you're the retard

>go to navy academy
>do 25 years
>never once had to actually put my way in danger
>retired from navy
>pension from navy
>work another job that I like to do for fun just to keep me from being bored
>megabucks
>feels good man

SNITCHES GET STICHES!!

>>379781672
THUGS GET SLUGS, fgt

>>379774442
>US
>anything close to justice
pick one

>>379780313

You are such a fucking sheep if you're not trolling us right now. Shutting the fuck up and taking it is not what this country was built on. Being patriotic is one thing, being blind to the truth is another, which is what much of this country is - completely blind and ignorant.

>>379774442
>guy betrays the military by releasing confidential documents
>is by definition a traitor even though he had good purposes
>wonders why he's locked up

>>379781929
There was a dream...

>>379782031
You might want to look at the parallels between Nazi Germany and the US currently.
Exposing the truth is not the same as treason, the man is a patriot who tried to expose something that shouldn't be happening.
Are you even aware why were there?
Hint: Its not fighting terrorism and its not oil, if we wanted the oil we'd have it.

>>379781345
Nice inferrence dickwad, if his boss does nothing he goes to his boss, when he makes it as high as he can go, and nothing has been done, still, he then goes to the press makes a statement regarding the documents without releasing them, he then makes it clear on air that he will go public with this information if nothing is done. In his speach to the camera he would do well to mention things like how our country was founded on the premise of equality and justice blah blah blah, just enough to make it a shitstorm if they do kill him. He didn't think his actions through and now he'll pay for it. Hey may be right, but he made the mistake of trusting his government to do the honorable thing, rather than forcing it to.

>>379782666
>Exposing the truth is not the same as treason

But it is treason because it was military confidential shit. Shit like this isn't allowed to be leaked and if you do leak it they will discharge you at the very least.


Yes he did the right thing, but he's going to be seen as a traitor that can't keep military secrets secret.

>>379782794
>they wouldn't just kill his sorry ass if he threatened that, release a statement saying he was killed over seas.
Maybe you don't understand how things work anymore.
They could have easily killed him citing the patriot act.

>>379782027
not the guy your bashing but I must say that if I ran a country and a person released my secrets you can be damn sure i'd have his head mounted on a pyke by days end.

>>379783354
You wouldn't be a very good leader then.
Privacy is something your entitled to as a person.
Secrecy is something no government should be able to maintain.
Transparency is extremely important.

>>379783250
I'm not saying they can't kill him, I'm saying they'd start a media shitstorm if he was killed. Also he'd need a back-up plan for releasing the information, if he did die, but that should have been implied by the situation.

>>379776140
Do you take it up the ass candy-assgot?

>>379782794
>>379782794


You have obviously never been in the military.

You also, obviously, have a very naive idea about the way things work.

I'm just imagining a "I got yer secret information ransom hurrr durrrr" situation would work out.... You go ahead and try that, darling, see how far you get.

>>379781578

true story.txt

>>379783725
Let me make this clear for you, because you are obviously fucking retarded. A man, releases Government secrets to the press, allowing them to spin them any way they want, these documents that he turned over probably containing names of the men involved, and more importantly showing weaknesses in our government to anyone with a satellite connection. This man endangered the lives of every single person in the United States at the very least, indirectly. Yes a government has secrets, and those secrets are part of what protects its people. If a man in my country endangers the lives of my people, he would die for it. So would his superiors who decided to do nothing with the information though, outside of collateral damage there is no excuse for killing innocent civilians and those who do are of no use to the military, so I would have punished them accordingly.

>>379783725

woman logic, how about you go take cover in a transparant bush as the enemy shoots at you.

ANON

alright candy-assgots ive had enough

sure you can call the private a traitor and potentially put peoples lives at stake

but what about the godamn politicians who lied to get into iraq? what about the corporations making money off the us army's security? whos the real traitors to the country?

>>379785044
You didn't finish the story. The government has secrets that are secret for obviously good reasons (missile launch codes, military hardware shit, fleet positions, troop movements, etc). There are also bad secrets for bad reasons (US intentionally supporting wage quashing in Haiti, missing money from contractors, keeping a tally of civilian deaths when saying we don't, covering up murder, etc).

The latter type are the secrets that Manning revealed. I'm fine with this. The government was abusing its privilege for secrecy by covering up shit that made it look bad and was criminal.

But I guess you're fine with it, huh? As long as the government says it needs to be secret, then who are we (the taxpayers) to say any different, huh?

You are a weak, pathetic little coward. The gay kid has a bigger dick than you ever will.

>>379784818
ARE YOU FUCKING RETARDED!?! I know exactly how far I might get with that stunt, but at least then I'd have a chance of life outside of a prison cell, Manning will go to prison because he did release information, I might possibly be saved because I was smart enough not to release it so long as the proper actions were taken. I would still face a court marshal and a dishonorable discharge(possibly) or death, and assassination is far better than life in prison.

one is doing your job (following orders, simple as that)
the other is high treason

not a hard concept

>>379785541

irvelent! good sur!

>>379785605

Obviously you are not in the military to say such things nonchalantly. You get US Politicians and 99% of the US military mixed up.

Yes it is. Wuterich got revenge after half of his buddies got massacred, Manning committing treason by helping wikicandy-assgots.
Why do you even ask such a question ?

>>379785605
Yes I am ok with that, actually, I am ok with that because if I had all the military power of the US behind me I'd be doing exactly that kind of shit to keep my power. I didn't say I was a good person, I said I was the leader of a country passing sentence on a man that revealed military secrets. I also mentioned the fact that he has put people in undue danger because the documents he released are more than likely containing the names of soldiers who are just following orders, but may now be targeted for his idiocy.

>>379786098
I have absolutely no idea what you mean by that, care to elaborate?

Also, yes, I was in the military, dickwad.

>>379786198
Agreed, you are a bad person if you value the lives of criminals above those of innocents, which you clearly do.

Rot in hell. I hope you get your junk blown off by an IED.

>>379785780
then why is he being kept arrested and is not judged for high treason? Because in order for him to be judged USA war crimes would be exposed. There were some of the documents that were leaked that appeared on TV, but the average citizen doesn't care and probably forgot. And with these charges that Jullian Assange abused a woman nobody will care about what was leaked.
Now if Bradley was judged in court the case would have the media all over it. And those fucking USA pigs would be fucked becase there were a shitton of their crimeas appearing on the news and that would change the world's opinion about your shit country.

You people don't know shit about seeing a cowardly ass sand roody-poo blow up 2 of your best friends because apparently your "impure" so now our adrenalines rushing and you are mad as all hell wtf you expect to happen gtfo with your shit until you've been there you don't know shit

>>379786244

to say sevice members have anything to do with polics is asinine. Sevice members are not cowboys who are there to make a difference, to right the wrongs, to act as individuals. We are team players, obviously that is what Pvt Fagot lacked and what YOU fail to see. Missaproprated money and politica ethics are above most sevice member's paygrade.

>>379785808
i believe its really fucking relevant

bush lied to get into iraq, how many americans are dead because of this? lets not include the sand roody-poos

how many americans are dead because of one politicians lies? thats fucking treason in my book and he should be held accountable

death seems like an appropriate measure, thats what wouldve happened back in the day, he would be publically hanged

its not like anyone will deny bush lied, its right in front of your faces yet you idiots argue over soldiers wrong doings

wtf is wrong with you idiots

shit im a Canadian and Canadian soldiers have died because of his shit, we should kill him

>>379786956

then you court martial bush and shut the fuck up. lets move on people.

>>379786244
Upon which part would you like me to elaborate.
>>379786370
And tell me how the life of a random soldier just following his orders, maybe wasn't even directly involved in killing any innocent people, is any less valuable than the innocent person? Tell me, how valuable is the life of that poor person who never would have left their small village in Iraq, compared to that of your possible wife and children? Yes what they did was wrong, and they should be punished, but by releasing this information he could have jeopardized the lives of people still living, and their lives are more important than those past dead.

>>379786789
So you are a team player enough to help cover up crimes when you're told?

Wow. I didn't know that "team player" was another term for "weak cowardly little candy-assgot.

What branch of the service are you in, might I ask? What is your pay grade, actually?

>>379787573

yes

ITT: "Traitor" is a bad word.

"Patriot" act was likely a good thing then right?

>>379787573

E-6 Lt. US Marine Army,

>>379787400

I was wondering what exactly I said that I wouldn't have said if I were (*cough, I actually was, dickweed) in the military.

The life of a US soldier, to me and to the rest of the world, is worth considerably less than the civilians they are killing because they are the ones committing the crime. And let's remember, nobody who committed the crime of breaking in, tying up, and blowing away unarmed civilians was ever punished.

You can't get me to say that I believe reporting a crime to those who will listen is in any way tantamount to committing the crime itself.

And, for the record, the STATE DEPARTMENT (the organization that has everything to gain and nothing to lose by saying Manning's actions killed a soldier) has stated that there have been no deaths as a result of Manning's actions.

You lose.

And for the record, I don't give two tugs of a dead dog's cock how many military members get killed because of Manning's actions. They are there, in a criminal invasion, as part of a criminal force, all VOLUNTEER, which means they are all CRIMINALS.

I have come to terms with this and have found peace, though I daily seek forgiveness for ever being a part of such an organization.

>>379788098

I see what you did there.

Whew, thank God. For a minute there I thought you were serious with >>379787694

>>379788206

you sound like a muslim.

>>379787198
court martial a president, how cute

enjoy your immorality

>>379785780
either troll or non-millitary

there are specific guidelines as to what an ORDER is. One of them being that it must support the mission. Killing civilians is not EVER part of the mission parameters.

>>379788098
>E-6 Lt.
The fuck kind of Lieutenant is E-6?

sounds like justice to me

>>379788465
See, here's the thing. You sound like much more of a muslim than I do.

You are the one who is into executing people. You are the one who is into exporting your toxic beliefs to every far-flung land that doesn't want them. You are the one who is all for never questioning your superiors and submitting to their God-given authority.

Islam = to submit.

One of us is considerably more submissive than the other.

>>379775615
so truth

>>379788733

true but shit happens yo

>>379788768

noob

>That feeling when our Government is Fucked up

I would kill them sand roody-poos just for fun

>>379788938

wow, i can see your point of view now.... you take words and twist them around and use that kind of logic.

Muslim is too good of a word for you.

all i see is baw bawww bawwwwwwwwww
manning broke the rules and he's getting punished for it.


of course you peace loving candy-assgots dont see it that way.

Might makes right.

>>379789242
Not kidding, what the shit does Lt. mean because you sure as hell aren't any kind of lieutenant.

the morality behind going against the government, no matter how valid, is still enough a reason to kill and imprison someone in the minds of both the government and the average civilian. patriotism is seldom put behind reason and morals.

>>379789154
I understand shit happens but what we are talking about is more like throwing shit at passers by. Or at the very least telling on people who do.

I was just following orders is never an excuse.

>>379789551

you must be new around here

>>379789523
you see, i dont give a shit if the traitor spends his life in jail but if you want to be fair about it, you should jail your politicians for lying and causing death to its own citizens as well as iraqian citizens

but no, you americans dont prosecute your politicians, even though theyre the biggest terrorist of em all

no politician was tried for vietnam even though it was a false flag attack that got you into nam

>>379779704

Says another fascist boot licking shill. Even in the military there are rules against following an illegal order.
Intentionally targeting journalists, civilians, rape of women and children, torture ...these are ALL illegal actions.

Simply following orders is NOT a reason to commit these crimes. So no, what Manning did was expose the crimes being committed and not actually violate anything.

Simply being sworn to secrecy doesn't excuse you from being liable to the crimes being committed. Ever hear of The Nuremberg trials?

>>379789804

that is why SGT. WhatsHisFace is getting punished and not his followers.....the rest probably got a slap on the wrist or a panel of high ranking officers flicked them in the dick.

Amerifats are fucking stupid, is that something new ?

From what i know about the military... you follow orders. that is it. Also rank means everything. Im not surprised the private is getting harsher treatment. should have tried to out the US. im sorry but if you think everything is all rainbows and ponies out there then you are sorely mistaken.

KILLING 24 UNARMED CIVILIANS WITH AUTOMATIC WEAPONS DOES NOT CONSTITUTE A "COMBAT SITUATION"

>>379790103

Simply being sworn to secrecy doesn't excuse you from being liable to the crimes being committed. Ever hear of The Nuremberg trials?


so....I vow to not uphold my promises??? yeah, I would trust you.

>>379789551

You are arguing against a statement posted with a troll face... do your facepalm and stop giving a fuck

For those of you who do not know Lt. is an OFFICER rank He gave himself the pay grade E-6 (an ENLISTED rank)

This is justice.. Manning committed treason.

Take a look at their pictures.

Left: Obvious badass

Right: Royal candy-assgot

Case closed

>Not defending manning.

He didn't leak the info directly, he leaked it to wiki-leaks which blocked out key information that was a threat to individuals.

That "undercover" agent bullshit is not an argument, you're all just statist candy-assgots who would tolerate your mother getting raped and killed as long as a Sgt. ordered it.

>>379790334

it is IF YOU WERE IN COMBAT!

Common bro, havent you seen all the war movies....shit gets blown up, Charlie is behind the bushes, you have to land at Normandy, and all to kick the king out of 'Merica.

>TREASONTREASONTREASON

Sure is Redcoats in here.

>>379790474

Swearing to protect the country from all threats FOREIGN AND DOMESTIC really means a lot to you eh?

Fucking retard..

>>379790334

>mfw information you willingly put on the internet is somehow private

>>379790530

no one said rape......

see the twised mind of a libral who would rather attack an icon than a real humanbean.

>>379774442
LOL STEVEO

>>379790474


i see what you did there.jpeg

>>379790537
except they weren't in combat. There was no grand battle going on. There were no explosions. The motive was revenge for a bombing that one of the family members(who wasn't present) MIGHT have been connected to.

>>379790474
dont forget MarineArmy

>>379790702
protect country from foreign and DOMESTIC

i repeat, why arent these politicians locked up?

domestic terrorist if you ask me

but no, you amerifucks would rather just bitch about the wrong doings of soldiers which is nothing compared to what the politicians have done

>>379790868
LOL I NO RITE

They got wheel-chairs in Iraq?
>>379774442
>>379774442
>>379774442
>>379774442
>>379774442

>>379781047
In the video the reporters are lurking around holding cameras at their waists like theyre slinging rifles, fucking peeking around corners and shit. If I were in that apache, i would have blown the fuck out of them too. Its not like they were standing there filming the nightly news, they looked up to no good. Plus they went outside the protected greenzone without letting us forces know where they were. the pilots didnt shoot them because they were reporters, the pilots shot them because they looked like hadjis.

What Pvt Bradley Manning did was treason. Even though he thought he good intentions, totally went the wrong way of doing it.
>mfw there is a long Wikipedia article on him.

DURHURURUR FUCK SOPA TAEK IT DOWN WE WANT DAH FREEDUMZ OF KNOWLEDGE.

OH LAWL DIS GUUY TRAYTOR HE ONLI ROTS IN PRISUN FOR OR RITE UV NOWLEDGE DIRRHRU TRAITOR!!!!11

Some of you guys are fucking retarded.

>>379791243
info.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haditha_killings

I love how the paragraph for manning leaves out him essentially committing soft-treason.

One was a crime against humanity. The other, a crime against the secretive US government.

>the US doesn't care about humanity

>Terrorists blow up an embassy
>we should totally solve this peacefully
>Marine kills civilians, doesn't matter if it's on purpose or by accident
>FUCK YOU PIG SHAMEFUL DISPLAY.

Yeeaaaah.

Also, exposing classified documents is an act of Treason, and welcome to war, where both sides mercilessly kill each other to achieve a goal.

>>379788206
You arrogant cocksucker, you have no respect for the soldiers who fight and die for you or what? you say you served, well fuck your service, it is in the dirt with that last statement. Manning released far more documents than the three you keep mentioning, and each of them could contain just enough information for our enemies to do us harm, things that may have no meaning when alone in their singular file, could shed light on military secrets, that is Mannings crime. The others may have hurt innocent people but at least they're actions don't put the country in danger. And as much as you assholes seem to like bashing America, you do need to know that the world will suffer if America ever faces a real threat.

>suprised that the US army is corrupt
ISHYGDDT.jpeg

>>379790474

maybe his pay was reduced for touching little boys i mean his name is the good reverend after all

lmao, who the fuck actually cares about their country? any reasonable person would gladly trade their nation in for self profit; that is because reasonable people live for themselves rather than a government and its idiot subjects.

>>379791638
If you're a soldier, you sign up to die. You should fully be prepared to do so, and expect it to happen to you and those around you.

For civilians, this is not the case. The killing of a soldier is par for the course, it goes with the territory. Killing a civilian, however, is indefensible. That the military disregards civilian lives so they can avoid any and all danger to soldiers is reprehensible.

>>379791638
There'd be no obesity at least.

>>379791267
>>379790868
LOL
NYAN NOTDUNN YET BUMP

>>379791798

good as in "Its all good baby"

>>379774442
Yes, yes it is.
You see, we need to WIN the war, thus require the respect and support of our nations, even if we're lying.

>>379791811
You are right in that living for yourself is the way to go, but remember that if your government falls under attack you are now in danger, if your government is strong all for the better, but if it is weak...

>>379792016

true. Civilians and property are considered colateral damage.

>>379791638
Wow, you are a fascist little turd.

And, word to the wise, all y'all who go around killing people in a fucked up part of the world are making more terrorists by the thousands. That is compromising US security way, way more than what Manning has done.

I also notice that you're using the language of "could have" and "maybe" when discussing the harms Manning has done. When the other dude actually DID kill INNOCENT people, not maybe, not it could happen, but DID.

You dipshit. I really hope you get your nuts blown off by an IED, but I'm guessing your whole of military experience consists of Wolfenstein and Call of Duty.

>>379791325
LOL
kayfabe is kayfabe
>>379792168
>>379791267
>>379790868

>>379791325
Actually what manning did was what most of the actual soldiers SHOULD be doing. Protecting the integrity of the country and everything it is supposed to stand for.

The real traitors are the ones allowing these crimes to happen on a regular basis.

Also, to the guy who said the reporters shouldn't be ducking around corners... are you a fucking downs syndrome baby or something? This was a WAR ZONE moron, everybody who doesn't want to get shot ducks around corners.. grow a fucking brain.

The guys in the helo should have positively identified their targets its not like they weren't hovering for 10 min already. They were just in a hurry to kill somebody. Watch the actual video and not the gif and you'll ..maybe..understand.

>>379792376
luckily, there would always be people ready to give their lives up for that government in my place.

I opened this thread knowing exactly what would happen.

"They're not human, who cares".

This is called dehumanization, it's a war tactic, your media has dehumanized Arabs to you so that you may fulfil your oil masters wishes easier. Don't bother replying to me, I'm saging this thread and not reading.

If your mom and dad were killed in front of your eyes, you would feel the same pain an Iraqi child would.

manning didn't betray his country. he betrayed his military to protect his country. he took an oath to uphold the constitution and to defend his country from enemies, both foreign AND DOMESTIC. he found out our military was lying to our country and it was hurting our country, so he exposed our military for its illegal acts which only serve to harm our country. penalize him if you want, but life in prison? that's bullshit.

as wuterich, it's not like they went into a village, were engaged in combat, went into a house, thought they were being attacked and fired. they were in a peaceful village and planned to enter what they knew was a civilian home. they chose to go in and harass the people. when the people didn't stand for it, he ordered his men to shoot. they then marched innocent people, without weapons, out into the street, laughed at them, beat them, then killed them. he's a sick murdering fuck. but he only gets 90 days in jail. that's bullshit.

>>379792432
LOL SPOOKY PSYOPs
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>>/x/9488643

>>379792416

chill baby, we can take this matter to court and settle for this once and for all....unless you want to get the internet police involved.

>>379792599
LOL YOU MEAN JASON
>>379792432

>>379774442
What's wrong with exposing war crimes?
Just because it's the U.S. doesn't mean they don't slaughter civies.

>>379792599

Pvt Fag betrayed everyone, 'Merica, soldiers, country singers and Jesus. He deserves to but lynched.

>>379792825
nonexistent candy-ass is non existent