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The Falkland Islands are to hold a referendum on their "political status" in a bid to end the continuing dispute with Argentina over their sovereignty.

The vote will be held in 2013, the Falklands government said.
The announcement comes amid increasing tensions between Britain and Argentina over the disputed territory, which the South American country calls Las Malvinas.
UK Foreign Secretary William Hague said: "The British Government has been consistent in its view that the future of the Falklands can only be determined by the people who live there.
"So the Prime Minister and I support this initiative to demonstrate - without doubt - the definitive view of the Falkland Islands people.
"In a region that rightly prizes democracy and human rights, it is entirely appropriate that the Islanders can express this fundamental right. The principle of self-determination is a key part of the United Nations charter.
"The voice of the Falkland Islands people should be heard. I hope very much that Argentina, and indeed the whole of the international community, joins the UK in listening carefully to what they have to say."

More to come
http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16245858
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Argentina has no right to them. It never has and it never will. Their entire arguement is that the islands are closer to Argentina than they are to the United Kingdom.
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London cannot vote to leave UK and join China.
Malvinas cannot vote to leave Argentina and join UK.
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>>3607205
>Their entire arguement is that the islands are closer to Argentina than they are to the United Kingdom.

Limey lies.

Islas Malvinas were part of Argentina before England stole them.
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>>3607208
>>3607222
Fuck off fagets.

They have never been apart of Argentina go suck a bag of dicks.

/malvinas/ filtered
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>>3607222

When?! Argentina didn't even exist when the UK colonised the islands.
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>>3607232
>Fuck off fagets.

Typical limey. You don't like truth so resort to insults.

>They have never been apart of Argentina go suck a bag of dicks.

They were part of Argentina since Argentina was created. They were part of Argentina even before we became independent. They are still part of Argentina.
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>>3607238
Argentinos lived on the islands but English murdered them and took the islands.
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>>3607245
>>3607240
Plebs gtfo
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>>3607245

Are you idiots honestly taught that?
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>>3607254
Yes. We are taught the truth. They teach you lies. England even lies about how many of their men were killed in the 1982 aggression against Argentina.
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>>3607264

4/10, but only because you got a couple of bites.
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>>3607264
Puertorrican here. Mera canto de cabrón, la jodias malvinas son de las personas que viven en las malvinas. Lo que la presi de ustedes esta haciendo es usando las malvinas pa que se olviden de lo mierda que tu pais está. Y parece que esta funcionando..
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>>3607264

It's kind of hard to hide deaths in our country as we don't live in a military dictatorship. It's a well documented conflict on our side.
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>>3607277
Amigo, it is a matter of absolute faith in Argentina that:
(a) they killed infinity British soldiers but the BBC covered it up;
(b) they sank infinity British aircraft carriers but the BBC covered it up;
(c) the islanders secretly long to be Argies but the British govt. won't allow it.

I seriously do not think he's trolling. I've seen way too may argies making exactly those arguments in complete seriousness.
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ITT dumb Argentines think England is the same as UK.
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>>3607290
Oh shit not even other spics belive argys bullshit!
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>>3607305
Wait what?!

You gotta be kidding, the first two are retarded but plausible but the last one?! The fuck!
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>>3607264
No we don't.

Hell, half of the Falklands War was pretty much British officers trying to get the Argentinians to surrender before the British slaughtered them, because too many enemy deaths would look bad.

Maybe we should drop a few Ghurkas into Buenos Aires to remind you?
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lol at /pol/ revanchism
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I actually thought South Americans were better educated than Africans and the Middle East peoples.

Apparently not. They just believe government bullshit and patriotic myths.
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>>3607325
>South Americans
>educated
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>>3607290
Jealous nigger wishes he live in white country like Argentina.

Argentina = first world
Puerto Rico = Africa

You are prick and a traitor to Hispanidad.
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>>3607290
>>3607311

This is an interesting point. I am actually a Colombian and I spent a year and a half studying in Buenos Aires (amongst other places) and I can tell you categorically that there is no Latin American nation that is as arrogant, ignorant and self-satisfied as Argentina.

Their self-involvement and egotism has to be seen to be believed. Truly, they are the worst and most contemptible country in the Western Hemisphere. They act the way that people think Americans act.
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Lo que no entiendo es por que a los argentinos se le hace dificil acpetal que las Malvinas son de los que Malvinenses.

What I dont understand is why do Argentinians cant accept that the Falklands are for the Falklanders?
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>>3607354
I'm so sorry man.

I'll make a promise to you right now, hand on heart if they try and take my islands again I will personally carve a piece of Argentina and give it to you for your troubles.
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HEY ARGIES

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkHYvxJnKJY&feature=related

BOOGA BOOGA BOOGA

GHURKAS GONNA GET YA!
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Those islands belong to the UK. Most of the Argentinean people does not care about them. It's our socialist fuck up of a government that's creating this issue anew, and they have no right to them.
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>>3607338
>Argentina
>First World
Damn argie. Puerto Rico aint something to be proud of but at least we know the shit hole we live in. You guys belive that you are 1st world and that are europeans. Talk about delusions of grandeur.
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>>3607354
So fucking true bro. Argentinians are so fucking "come mierda" its not even funny.
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>>3607367
I've studied in Europe (inc. UK), the USA and several places in South America. I like to think that I have a good grasp of these places and their people.

Whatever our governments may say (and many of them will line up to support Argentina), the average person in Latin America holds Argentina in complete contempt. Please do not ever doubt that we are disgusted with Argentina's horrendous bullying of the Islanders and their complete disregard for principles (principals?) of self-determination and democracy.

They are a nation of blind, stubborn fools who cannot admit they were wrong. 30 years ago the started a stupid pointless war that got 1,000 people killed. They were beaten like little putas and now their macho pride has been wounded so they cannot ever let this issue drop.

Fucking Argentinos. I hate them so very much.
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World traveller just stopping by:

Argentina is not fucking first world. Nor is it white. Get over yourself. You guys sound like fucking filipinos. Or those tar black pacific islanders who insist they are asian.
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Perufag here. Argentina should attack England again.

It would be very funny to see Argentina getting raped. Again.

And maybe this time England will finish the job by dropping nuke over Buenos Aires.
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>>3607354
How does an Argie commit suicide?

He jumps off his own ego.
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The 1982 war was wrong but the islands are rightfully part of my country.

We should be working towards a negociated agreement that gives the Malvinas to us while allowing the kelpers to live as Brittish citizens.
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>>3607420
I've got to say that after this bloody nonsense in Afghanistan, your average squadie would be well up for giving the Argies another kicking.

Hell, Buenos Aires by Christmas, I say!
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>>3607420
>And maybe this time England will finish the job by dropping nuke over Buenos Aires.

Buena idea.
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My god I want the UK to go all out with the argies. They need to be taught a lesson in humility.
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I find this conflict so fucking hilarious, since both parties seem to think it actually fucking matters (while everyone else just sits back and chuckles), and it actually just is embarrassing for both countries. It's pathetic for the UK because, as a self-proclaimed "great power," they should be able to just ignore Argentina, but are instead unable to maintain even the last vestiges of their empire and are thus legitimately threatened by a shitty country halfway across the globe, and therefore need to buddy up with France or suck America's cock in order to prevent their land from being stolen by smelly brown people. It's embarrassing for Argentina because the issue makes them look like how North Koreans acted towards Kim Jong-Il, and everyone considers them retarded for beings so niggery over the islands.

I love going to pertinent YT vids and seeing the fallout
>"MALVINAS SON ARGENTINAS"
>"oy mate u better fuck off nao"
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>>3607433
>>3607420
>implying Argentina is not most powerful country in South America
>implying Argentina would not win
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I really hope if our shitty gov attacks uk you guys get rid of it
the Kirchners and their left ideals are heading the country to the ground
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>>3607432
Farklands for the farklanders. Stop trying to bully and steal something that isnt yours.
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>>3607432
Except... they're not yours and chances are they're not going to be yours anytime soon.

Hey, I'm pissed at the loss of Normandy and Acquitaine. Doesn't mean I'm throwing a shitfit at the French Government over it.
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Britfag here. Was an able rate warfare specialist on one of our vanguard class nuclear subs.

If it comes to war over the Falklands again, I'll join the reserves in a heartbeat.
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>>3607439
>They need to be taught a lesson in humility.

Venezuela reporting in. Very much this.
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>>3607446
Are you retarded?
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>>3607449
>implying Argentina will win
How deluded can you faggots be.
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>>3607461
>submarines

English cowards.
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>>3607309
>ITT dumb Argentines think England is the same as UK.

When people talk about England, they really aren't thinking of the Scottish or Welsh. They really do mean England, and whatever other unimportant places that happen to be currently ruled by England.
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>>3607469
We nearly kicked your ass last time and now we are much stronger and richer than before while you are poor and washed up.
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When will the Argentines learn that this whole issue is being invented by there president attempting to create nationalist issues in order to distract people from relevant economic issues?

Also we shouldn't be surprised the Falkland Islanders are holding a referendum on sovereignty, they like to do it every few years to prove to the Argentines that they are remaining British through self determination and not through 'imperialist' agendas.
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>>3607446
>unable to maintain even the last vestiges of their empire

Look, I'm Irish. I have no brief for the UK. But, for fuck's sake. The Brits got ride of an empire that covered half the fucking globe and they did it without fighting any wars (unlike France in Vietnam and Algeria or Portugal in Angola and Mozambique or Spain in Latin America).

Do you seriously think that defending the right of self-determintion of the islanders has anything whatsoever to do with "empire"?

Get a grip, man.
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>>3607490
>We nearly kicked your ass last time
In what universe do you live boy? Cause in my universe the UK went easy on you guys in order to save their image. The UK only fought with 1% of their power, and thats even pusing it. Get up of your high horse chump.
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>>3607449
Its people like you that give us a bad name
We would not win, and we shouldnt be going to war for them. We should devout our time to getting rid of fucking socialist peronists
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>Based William Hague
>Yorkshireman
>dat voice
>subtly whispering in your ear whilst engaging in coitus

I would.
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>>3607475
Yeah, because attacking 50 Marines with thousands of men is SOOOOO BRAVE.

Bring it on with your 70s aircraft and missiles now we're geared up for a light skirmish.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvZfAs6rw24
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>>3607506
>tfw you encounter the elusive sane argentinian
I feel bad for you, living in delusion land.
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>>3607506
Peron made Argentina the greatest country in South America. You just want to give our resources to foreign companies. You fucking traidor. You make me sick in my stomach.

Before we deal with England we should clean up our own country by taking out all the traidor faggots like you.
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Latin Americans are a revolting people (get it?)
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>>3607305
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>>3607490

The Argentine country of course is richer, more democratic and better educated than 30 years ago, however this has not translated into military power.

Your government continues to reduce military spending, and subsections of your armed forces such as the Air Force are still using equipment that is Falklands era.

That's fair enough, but the UK military prescence in the Falklands has been reinforced, and despite lacking a dedicated Aircraft carrier as of the moment, the UK is still among very few countries which have the power to project force over very large distances. Also the Defences/Airbase on the Falkland islands are far more modern and capable than those that were originally there.
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My wish is that the Falklanders suddenly grow some testicle and tell both the Argies and the Brits to fuck off, declare their independence, then hire a posse of bad ass mercs to defend their sovereignty. And the leader of the mercenaries would totally have an eye patch and smoke cigars. Wouldn't that be the awesomest thing that could happen in this whole Flaklands kerfluffle?
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>>3607524
0/10
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>"Argentina has unilaterally disarmed itself since the 1990s," said Carlos Escude, a foreign affairs adviser to the previous government.

>"Our munitions would only last for a 25-hour shooting war against Paraguay. After that, Paraguay would invade us."
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I remember reading somewhere that the Argentinian military doesn't have the technical capacity to disable even a single Eurofighter.
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what is number of people living on these islands? and how many of them are english and/or argentinians.


>cap:observations ntsnigh
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>>3607522
Nah, I have left a while ago, came to study in the US
But I have family living there and would not like to see it fall apart because of our government

>>3607524
I don't at all support what Menem did, but i know for sure that what they're doing now isn't doing us any good
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>>3607546
The Falklanders are British, you fucking moron. Why would they tell their own country to fuck off?
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>>3607540
Oh wow guys let's take things out of context here and only deal in absolutes!!

Yellow, orange ánd red means it sank!!!!
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>>3607540
Yeah, we took a lot of losses and these were all reported.

What do you expect? It was the first modern naval engagement in history. A lot of untried theory was put into practice.

YET we still managed to establish naval control over the Islands and beat the Argentinian aggressors.

And let me tell you something. It would be political suicide nowadays for a government to let the Falklands be invaded again and fail to retake the islands.

You think Thatcher was bad? Thatcher had morales. This mob and the past mob in Westminster would chuck everything at Argentina if they thought it would get them another vote.
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>>3607569
3,000 people.

95% British, 5% Chilean. Chileans are all staunchly pro-British.
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>>3607540
I'm not sure what point you're trying to make.
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>>3607569
3000 British

No Argentinians.
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>>3607546

Her Majesties government has said countless times that if the Falkland islands wish to be independent (which we should remember they are in all but foreign policy matters) it has the full support of the UK. The UK has granted support and independence to any 'colony' or overseas territory that has wanted it since the 1970s.

It's one of the main reasons referendums on British rule are so common.
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Why do Britfags get so upset about this?

Why not treat Kirchner like Hugo Chavez or Kim Jong-Il, and simply ignore her?

Don't you realize that by giving them attention you're just encouraging the childish revanchism?
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>>3607551
HAHAHAHAHA
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>>3607546

They could have sovereignty and still be entitled to British military protection by virtue of being part of the Commonwealth.

We take care of our friends.
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>>3607605
Because they're actively trying to blockade and prevent trade to the Falklands.

Which, when you're stuck in the South Atlantic near the Arctic Circle, is rather a big deal.
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>>3607505
Fuck you, americunt fat bastard.
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>Falklands becomes independent
>Argentine invades it the following day
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>>3607615
Better be a fat american, wish Im not btw, than a deluded argentinian fool.
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>>3607615
That's not nice. Well, keep goosestepping on, we'll be living in the 1st World.
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Ausfag here. If the shitskins attack Britain, I'd gladly volunteer to help defend my Commonwealth bros.

Because I know that if the Chinks attacked Oz, the Brits would have our back.

We might squabble with the poms sometimes but blood is blood and we're brothers in the end.
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>>3607633
Argentina is whiter and richer than your shitty country.
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>>3607338

>Jealous nigger wishes he live in white country like Argentina.

>Argentina = first world
>Puerto Rico = Africa

Hey, hey, hey, now. Imperial citizen, here, and Puerto Rico is one of the colonies of the Glorious American Empire, and I'll not countenance a misinformed savage from the hinterlands to bad mouth even the lowliest of our subjects. And be thankful you're dealing with the polite and restrained Brits, because we'd have added the whole of Argentina to the Falklands province were it our colony.
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>>3607605

Because Argentina is a regional power that does influence other countries in South America. All of this talk of the islands being illegally occupied threatens the islands economically as obviously they rely on South American trade more than that of Britain or other continents. It is well documented that the Argentines/other South American countries have imposed limited trade embargoes/stopped commercial flights and shipping flying Falklands flags in the decades since the actual war.

Its not that the British don't want to ignore these claims, its that it is hard to when the islands are still threatened economically
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Anyone up for a bit of Argie propaganda?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Eh1B4a-RMA
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>>3607612

>south atlantic
>arctic circle

Oh boy, here we go...
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>>3607641
0/100
Apply yourself.
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>>3607661
Antarctic. Sorry.
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>>3607605
>Why do Britfags get so upset about this?

We're not upset. We're the ones laughing about it. The Argies are the ones having nervous breakdowns on /pol/ on a daily basis.


>Why not treat Kirchner like Hugo Chavez or Kim Jong-Il, and simply ignore her?

The US has never ignored either Chavez or Kim. The US actively tried to overthrow Chavez and has had large-scale conflict plans for Venezuela since the early 2000s.

>Don't you realize that by giving them attention you're just encouraging the childish revanchism?

They're blockading the islands and threatening war (Chavez and Castro have both said they would contribute military forces to a war with the UK). I don't think it's terribly wise to pretend this isn't happening.
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>>3607651

So wouldn't it be more efficient to, say, spend all that diplomatic effort on building strong ties with Brazil and Chile?
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You know after this huge mess in the middle east it would be nice to have a ridiculously one sided war we have no danger of losing, for a change.
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Yawn, good morning guys. What a nice way to start the day with a shitty Falkland troll thread.

Anyhow, as an Real American I would gladly help my allied friends in the UK to put the Argentinians in line.
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>>3607701
Chile is already a British ally and actively helped us in the last war.

Perhaps, instead of posting here about things you don't understand, it would be wiser to educate yourself a little.

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