You wouldn't even need a nuke to level it. Just regular bombs circa WWII technology would be able to do it. Obviously no nation would officially attack Mecca but you would think some northern European terrorists would give it a shot. Why do you think it hasn't been tried before?What do you think would happen if someone completely destroyed Mecca?
I've read somewhere that Mecca was already re-built like four times already.If a European terrorist were to bomb Mecca you'd better believe some mudslimes are gonna go apeshit in Europe.
> What do you think would happen if someone completely destroyed Mecca?The arab world would unite. No one wants that.
Breivik could have pulled it off
Better now than later.Europe will end up like Lebanon anyways
>>3325425No they wouldn't. Arabs can't do shit together without somebody fucking over somebody else.
World War III obviously1 billion Muslims versus 6 billion infidels.After the major conflicts and the victory of the Allies there would be tons of terrorists attack.The only way to combat this would be to disregard religious freedom only in the case of Muslims. Any Non-non-Muslim would be killed. So...poetic justice?
>northern European terroristsWhat? You do realise that all white European terrorist cells are exclusively separatist cells, right?
>>3325439Remember how even the french were sympathetic to the yanks after 9-11?
>>3325440This wouldn't happen unless they could pin it on a non-muslim. The way I would do it is to trick a muslim extremist into doing it and then laying the blame at the feet of muslim radicals or what I like to call the '9/11 Special'.
You need not worry, OP. The US military actually plans to nuke Mecca and most of the Middle East.http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/05/total-war-islam/all/1
Silly humans leave the AllSpark alone
>>3325444Sepratists as in nationalists? Aren't there like a bunch of Left Wing nutjobs running around as well?
>>3325444OP hereIt doesn't necessarily have to be northern European terrorists. Just someone who really wants to stick it to the Muslims. Northern Europeans definitely are getting sick of Muslims shit.
>>3325472>Northern EuropeansYou mean most Europeans. The only Euros who aren't dealing with this shit are the eastern europeans and they have enough problems as it is.
>>3325459If you read through that article you'll notice that it is only one person that advocates total war against Islam during his time as a military trainer although he does bring in a few other anti-islamists to support his point.I don't disagree with the guy I'm just saying that he didn't get enough time to fully implement his ideas, which is sad.:(
>>3325461http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_EBUXVZcb2MDrinky time.
>>3325461But lord Megatron, they are just prantsing around it, and fucking goats.
>>3325480>most EuropeansYou mean everyone.Sane people in the middle east and northern Africa are definitely more sick of Muslim's shit than Europeans and Americans
No Mecca, No Temple mount = dispersal of religion.Once you take away any hope of physical interaction with the belief, then it dwindles.This is why I like time.Time will take care of the Temple Mount, as it will Mecca.Isn't entropy grand?
>>3325497
Europe would go into civil war mode pretty fucking quick.
>>3325425Holy fuck you're hilarious.They'd probably just shoot each other, they are absolutely fucking useless.
>>3325497It is pretty cool.
>>3325410This is kind of in the same vein as OP's post.Why has no one tried to assassinate Barrack Obama.I don't think he deserves to die or anything nor would I really want Joe Biden to be president.I know before he got in office the FBI thwarted a few small time rednecks, but still. Nigger in the white house and no neonazi, kkk member, pissed off black panther member, NO ONE has been trying? I'm surprised.
>>3325532Aren't the black panthers black supremacists ?Why the fuck would they want to kill a black president ?
>>3325532It's because the US tends to assassinate presidents/people that actually try to help the country.Well, as you can see...
>>3325537hes half white! lol
>>3325537Why would a Hindu kill Ghandi?
>>3325545Gandhi
The Kaaba has already been damaged and rebuilt, and even deliberately demolished and rebuilt by rulers.Basically it's the Black Stone and foundations that count.I think deep down the Sauds could be happy if it got destroyed - they're Wahhabis after all, and should (in principle) be against such places of worship.They actually demolished nearly all of Mecca already, the Grand Mosque is the only significant old building remaining there, because they couldn't get away with destroying that.
>Mecca is destroyed.>Next day all Muslims suddenly realize Islam is stupid>"what the fuck have we been doing?!" >peaceMind control device in Mecca. Calling it now.
We should bomb Israel instead. They are the biggest threat in the middle east. We just need to do it fast enough so that "mad dog" Israel doesn't have time to nuke the entire world in retaliation, as they have already suggested they would do if the goyim rebelled.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samson_Option
>>3325554okay, so what if the Black stone got disintegrated?
>>3325532Shit nigga you gon get vanned fo sho!
>>3325560>thinking the jews are a big threat>not the Muslimsthe 30's called, they want their prejudice back.
>>3325560What do you think the missile shield is really for? Everyone knows it's not to protect against Russia or China, those are just lies told to the Jews in American government by the Pentagon to get them to fund it, exploiting the Jewish persecution complex.
>>3325560The Jews have a handful of German built nuclear subs that would nuke the world if Israel were to disappear. Good luck stopping them.
>>3325410>What do you think would happen if someone completely destroyed Mecca?Muslims would totally destroy the West, or at least try.Also WW3.
>>3325554>they're Wahhabis after all, and should (in principle) be against such places of worship.Why?They don't worship the Kaaba itself, you know?
>>3325566>implying they need a reasonAnd even still its obvious my point was being surprised that more attempts have not been made given how many of our presidents thorough out history have been killed or at least shot at. If someone assassinates Barrack Obama all it will do is make him a saint like it did JFK. but rest assured I don't actively want any harm to befall any human being.
Romans tried it with the Jews.Only made the problem spread globally.
>>3325563Like completely? Well, there'd be a shitstorm.It's a pretty big fucking stone though (I'd say 2 by 1.5 feet), it's more likely to get smashed/shattered. It's been shattered before. It's held together with some cement shit these days.Hell, it's been painted with excrement at least once before by some brave people.
>>3325440That would be 1 billion Muslims vs 2 billion Christfags.Like Pike said though, Christendom is being held in check - they will both destroy each other so the new age freaks can take over Temple Mount, Dome of the Rock - King Solomons Temple - Jerusalem and rule the world for at least 42 months as per the script.
>>3325603But this problem is already spreading globally
>>3325607guys, listen, guys, guys!!listen...so, what if we.... listen... what if we paint it white???
>>3325584I believe that there is absolutely no way that Muslims could destroy the west. It isn't "on" it isn't even close to being "on"The American aggression since 9/11 has been "walking on egg shells, omg have to be politically correct, win hearts and minds, 38th parallel, let me rebuild your schools for you"If it was ever to be "On" like Red Dawn, or Charles Bronson, or hell i'd even accept the movie Tron. Their shit would be slaughtered.
>>3325617Why is it black anyways ?
>>3325623well you are wrong throughout history nations have been taken over by much smaller organised groups.
>>3325627Meteorite.
>>3325627meteor."came from heaven, sent by God"
>>3325630The meteor is tiny and inside the cube. The cube itself is just a building covered in black cloth by the looks of it.
>>3325563>Muslim religion teachers find a replacement black rock>Religion-logic it to be the same rock
>>3325623It was "on" in Afghanistan and Iraq.And the Americans lost both wars.I think the will to fight is more important than how much hardware you have.Most Westerners don't want to fight against Muslims, many (including me) would even pick their side above racist fellow whites.
>>3325594For the same reason they destroyed 90+% of historic Mecca already. And every other early Islamic site they could. They're even demolishing the Seven Mosques of Medina (built by Muhhamad's daughter and some of the holiest places in Islam).If the Sauds had their way (and they're having their way, for the most part), there would be no old Mosque left in Saudi Arabia. No war nor disaster destroyed as much of early Muslim heritage as the Sauds over the last century.
>>3325623This. If we truly wanted to, we could blast Muslims back to the Bronze Age.
>>3325627Cuz it's Allah's rock, yo
>>3325560some of the interpretations sound more than a little fucked uphttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deplorable_Word
>>3325651>dropping food aid to AfghanisSure is "on" in here. I'm talking fucking ON, son.
>>3325651They didn't lose either war. They left Iraq after kicking the shit out of Iraqi army and in Afghanistan they are leaving because the money is running out and Barry's got to get the troops home to keep the US population happy.I don't think you are actually white. Prove it by posting a pic with a timestamp.
>>3325651>Most Westerners don't want to fight against MuslimsYou don't know many people in the military do it?Marines would love nothing better than for the training wheels to be taken off the war machine and for them to slaughter Muslims town by town. Its everything the US can do to keep up the "we aren't attacking Islam" schtick.
bringing peace to the middle east is easywhats that? You want it to be inhabited still?awwww shit.
>>3325558
> but you would think some northern European terrorists would give it a shot. Northern European terrorists? Who? The Swedish bikini team?These "terrorists" you talk about are just teenage skinheads rebelling against Mom and Dad by spray painting swastikas on the side of police cars. Most of them wouldn't even be able to find Mecca on a map. If you're expecting fat, spoiled Europeans to start anything of significance, keep waiting.>Inb4 American vs. European pic>Inb4 Godwin's Law
i say we get some people to infiltrate mecca.get a 3-part powdered chemical mix to places on each persons hands, and an hour after they mix it should dissolve the stone.if that is too unrealistic, then timed-chemical powdered mixtures to be slowly spread around the enclosed area (from long arab style clothing sleeves) that would set fire to it.Just kidding.No, really. Just kidding.>.>
HERE IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN YOU STUPID FUCKS. IF ANYONE ATTACKS SAUDI ARABIA, THE USA WILL MOBILIZE THEIR FORCES AND BOMB THE ATTACKER TO GLASS. THIS IS BECAUSE THE USA AND THE SAUDIS ARE FUCKING ALLIES. FUCKKINGALLIESGOT IT YOU FUCKING UNEDUCATED INBRED MORONS
We need a new Roman empire. They sure wouldn't tolerate bullshit of this magnitude. Man, dreams...Think about it. THE FUCKING ROMAN EMPIRE COMING BACK - THE ULTIMATE SHIZNIT, THE GREAT DOMAIN OF CAUCASIANS
>>3325623http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DVN21N_fcw
>>3325735great idea but unless the chemical is invisible someone is going to see you smear some type of substance on it and then the alalalajaakfwmjaachaka would happen and then the head chopping.
Who thinks Muslims should be forced back into their desert and forced to watch all their holy places bombed?Then we should only provide them with The Great Satans food, like McDonalds.And blast gospel music at them from loudspeakers to piss them off.The sad part is, all of them would consider this a fate worse than death.
>>3325735Shit that is actually a good idea!
>>3325745I sure am glad the OP specified that it would be an independent terrorist group and not someone the US or saudi's could easily point their finger at and blame.
>>3325751do what we can to make it look like sand.i'm sure that's pretty normal around there.
Chinese are the master race, faggots.
>>3325754>blast gospel music at them from loudspeakers to piss them off.>fate worse than deathI can see that
>>3325771then why are 99% of them poor and live in huts?huh?
Is it difficult to infiltrate Mecca and get close to the Kaaba? Are there Security checks? If so, how tight are they? You must be able to hide it somehow.
What if the Vatican AND Mecca was destroyed simultaneously?I would say something about fucking with the hindus but they have already thoroughly fucked up the Ganges River themselves. I guess you could throw a match in it and ignite the sludge river.
>>3325787>Are there Security checks? Like a motherfucker.
Plan to destroy Zionist Entity:>Pull a false flag operation and attack Mecca, make it look like Mossad.>Organize funding for a Saladin type army to take back Zion>UN Pressure, cut US aid (somehow), dismantle their NBC capabilities>Storm Jerusalem>???PROFIT!
>>3325786Why do 99% of white Americans live in Trailers and fuck their sisters while high on meth and oxycontin?
I keep saying.timed bomb-powdered mixture to look like sand.whale your arms around letting the mixture fly around everywhere, or do it slowly.
>>3325789Ganges River - millions use it to purify their soul, million use it as a final resting place for the remains of burned human corpses, and millions also use it as a shitter.That river smells so fucking bad its like a 20 cab drivers stuffed into huge rotting fish belly while having scat fetish curry sex and then they all suffocated and its been rotting in the sun for a week.
>>3325808None of that is true.The majority live in multi-bedroom houses (do those exist in china?) run around with iPhone with imported cars.Now shut up Chong, and get back to making my shit you slave.XD
>>3325813>>3325813>>3325813>>3325813
>>3325827Keep sucking Romney's cock hillbilly faggot, and keep up on your loan payment to us or we'll cut off your Xbox privileges, rube.
if at all possible it would be great if Mecca was destroyed and it not be the result of a suicide attack. Make the Muslims feel silly for not separating the bomb and the demo expert.
>>3325849your country kills people for weedsorry you lose.
>>3325410Because you can't. Literally. Such spiritual architectual monuments have energy fields shielding it, accumulated thoughout the millenia from prayers. An example of this phenomenon is St Paul cathedral in London - it was a primary target during the bombings of WW2 since it was a beacon of hope for Londoners. Yet, it remained unharmed even though all the surrounding were leveled.
>>3325861
>>3325410>You wouldn't even need a nuke to level it. But a nuke could wipe out so much more as well!
>>3325854Whereas you put weed smoking cancer suffering grandma in prison for life then make her work customer service for Southwest Airlines @ $2.00 a day.
>>3325861Then how did Taliban blow up those Buddhas in Afghanistan? Why did the Great Buddha of Nara burn down every few hundred years? Huh? Eh?Are giant Buddhas inherently lame?
>>3325861>energy fields shielding itI lol'd
>>3325871yeah but just by it being a "nuke" shit would go bad for everyone on earth. Just use the second biggest thing we got
>>3325873I told that bitch not in the carI told her if we got pulled over I wasn't gonna claim itI told her.
>>3325763>>3325763Yeah becuase the us didnt bomb the fuck out of afghanistan when al qaeda took the towers down. Oh wait.
>>3325874>Are giant Buddhas inherently lame?seeings as the first buddha stressed as hard as he could NOT to worship his image, just work on reaching enlightenment, yeah they are pretty lame.
NO all of you are doing it wrong!we will use this weapon turn burn mecca, israel and the vatican from space!! no one will know
>>3325892They bombed the fuck out of Afghanistan after Mullah Omar made it clear he wouldn't hand over Bin Laden
>>3325892They are the stupid motherfuckers that fessed up to itBraggin about it and shit. If you bring down the twin towers and govt' asks you "I da know dude, wasn't me" is your fucking answer.
free market islamofascism is best islamofascismfreemarketfascism.org
>>3325888
>>3325410That would be great if overnight Mecca was completely leveled and no one knew who did it. Who would they get angry at?
>>3325898Really? My grandparents just told me to pray to Buddha statues just because.
DO NOTHING!Do not attack Iran. Let Iran build nukes and start acting like the top dog in the middle east. Let Saudi arabs get butthurt about losing status. Promote Suni vs, Shiite sectarianism and watch all those idiots exterminate each other. If "Abraham's Temple" is smashed by anyone other than Moslems, America and the Jews will be accused of doing it.
Imo both Israel and Mekka should be bombed.The Jews are as much of a problem as the sand-niggers.Ideally would be getting them to fight each other to death.
>>3325978yes really. Buddhist teachings from Siddhartha Gautama were not egocentric at all. None of this "I am the way and the Light" bullshit like with Christianity. It wasn't until after his death and especially in the Song dynasty of China that Buddha became more magical. Syncretism and all that jazz.
>>3325987To make this idea even more fun start getting the Uighur to start conducting suicide attacks in China and then have the links leading back to one of the organisations in Iran or Saudi Arabia. The Chinese will cut off trade with those faggots faster than you can say 'You want pork fried rice?' Two fifty! You pay you go!
>>3325978Buddha didn't want people worshiping him because then it would make it seem like he was something more than just a human. The whole point of Buddhism is that anyone can become a Buddha. If you worship (rather than learning from) the Buddhas that means you think they are somehow above humanity. Basically imagine a "well if he can do it so can I" perspective if trying to be buddhist.I'm not even Buddhist. I just took a course on it last semester. Studied its history and development over time. Some of Siddhartha's teachings are more akin to like Socrates or Plato. God I love philosophy.
>>3326007But it's still nice to pray to Buddhas and Kannon sama. I mean, my grandparents did it, there can't be any harm to it, right?
Why is it that Americans always sound like total retards when talking about the Middle East.I have a few theories:1. Americans are highly educated by a shit-tier education system.2. Americans have absolutely no concept of historical perspective for the Middle East.3. Americans have absolutely no business whatsoever getting involved in Middle East affairs.4. America is full of fail and AIDS.I tend to lean toward "All Of The Above."
>The stone in the Mekka is a piece of a ancient metiorite>When Mekka is blown up, the alien virus that was held inside the stone is released>yfw armageddon
>>3326066The middle east is a hell hole that should have been nuked 'accidently' during world war 2.
>>3326066Butthurt sand-nigger detected.I am personally not even American, yet still I agree that Mecca should be nuked.
Tower, this is flight 323. We have lost our flight controls and are declaring an emergency.............?????Prophet!!
Roger, Hawk Leader.Dropping Justice naow.....
>>3326100Sorry, not a butthurt sandnigger - I'm an American actually, of Italian descent.Also, has it ever occurred to you that you're not getting the full story on the Middle East?I mean yes, they're very different, but they view us the same way.Yes, they're very violent, but on the whole, much less violent than the USA - just because our violence is institutionalized doesn't make it any less bloody.Finally, I'd like to point out the fact that if you think Arabs are hard to get along with now, try destroying Mecca and then see how they feel.The Western world will always live on the same planet with billions of Arabs. They are never going away. And they respond to Western attacks with anger and violence, not with meek submission - ALL THE TIME, EVERY TIME!Americans are just fools. We could fucking own the Middle East if we'd just stop acting like children about 9/11, and frankly, I don't doubt at all that we helped the Arabs do that shit.
You do realize that destroying that stupid rock isn't going to destroy Islam, right?
>>3326172If truman had not sided with the Zionists in '48 and sided with the Arabs, (as his advisors suggested) the US would not have had as much of a clusterfuck in the Middle East, and they could have just put authoritarian client states there and get stable petrol for the next 50 years.
>>3326179The rock is the Lich King, and Islam is the Scourge.
>>3326136>>3326159You will be suffer the rest of your days, heretic scum!
BOMB THEM GAW DAMN IRAQI MOOSLIMS!! USA! USA! USA!! FUCK YEAR!!!
yes op, we need a defining moment to make all muslims join forces against us. as much as i would love to see it vaporized i know this would only unite the different sects and tribes. this really make sense.
Yeah, that'll teach those filthy mudslimes!
>>3325480And they want to remove Kebab every day.
>>3326190>2012>making WoW references in a political thread>ISHYGDDT
>>3326190That actually explained this quite well for me.captcha: Instance tadious
>>3326290They even sell the appropriate headgear now!http://www.varusteleka.com/product/baretit-ja-suikat/jna-kansanmurhabaretti-uudenveroinen/_3HM0PON5K&lang=en_US
>>3326190With that analogy there must always be a rock else Islam will consume the world
The meteorite was previously known as the "Shield of Rome" and was thought by many Romans to be a gift from the gods that protected them against all enemies.When the Muslims captured it, they thought it would make them as powerful as the Romans, but all it did was give them another stop on their pilgrimages.But they still think it's hot stuff.I think if we vaporized it, they would look at it as losing their magic stone and would wail like a bunch of pussies over it as if someone had cut off their balls.Let's nuke it. It is just a meteorite. Whatever is left will be radioactive as hell.Let them get lip cancer from kissing the radioactive slag left over from their bullshit magic rock captured from the remains of the Roman Empire.They keep asking for it. Let's give it to them.
>>3326357Setting of nukes will make Russia and China angry, m'kay?
>>3326314All I need now is an accordion
>>3326007>take a "class" full of Zen propaganda bullshit rather than the more common and older near Messianic Buddhist sects.Protip: even the earliest stories involve the mother being fated to bring forth a Buddha and receiving a dream of white elephant entering her side. Also supernatural shit has always been part of Buddhism.As a scientist I despise philosophy but am quite amiable toward religion. Religion is about divining the existence and nature of the supernatural which by its definition could never be observed or properly assessed, since any supernatural action would be an alteration of causality and only visible as the normal progression of natural phenomena anyway. This places religion outside of conflict with science. The problems stem from associated philosophies.While philosophies(humanism and rationalism especially) interfere with the brutal objectivity of the scientific method by introducing ethical, moral, and emotional assumptions into observational methodology. Philosophy pertains to the physical but is based on hopes and subjective determinations, hence it is worthless and ineffectual. Philosophy is shit because I it makes claims I can disprove. At least theism and atheism are merely stated beliefs rather than making claims, and involve an issue about which no relevant data can ever be collected making it impossible to support or refute them even if they were considered claims.Morality is the last bastion of the coward. Hope is the delusion of the hopeless. Philosophy is the coin of fools.
>>3326377Why should they get mad? You are not making any sense.u muhammad?
>>3326357You can't just nuke things willy nilly ya know
>>3326433Damn that's bleak. You must be a hell of a party conversationist.
>>3326056Actually early Buddhism puts a perhaps undo amount emphasis on the thoughts prior to death when determining ones fate.Also some people would never want to escape Samsara. I place no negative or postive value on suffering or happiness, and as such have no interest in avoiding them or seeking them. Despite being a Christian I have no interest in Salvation either, as I have no interest in reward or punishment. My goal is to facilitate human conquest of the physical universe, ensure the indefinite survival of my bloodline, create an environment conductive to the survival of my offspring, and to destroy all threats to our species. I have divined this as the will of God as well as determined it to be an excellent survival strategy. http://pastebin.com/66qntM33I am totally amoral, I do not value happiness, I exist only to serve.
>>3326357>Let's nuke it. It is just a meteorite. Whatever is left will be radioactive as hell.Let them get lip cancer from kissing the radioactive slag left over from their bullshit magic rock captured from the remains of the Roman Empire.They keep asking for it. Let's give it to them.ITS ON!
>>3326448Because nuclear fallout? Plus they'll inevitably think someones starting a nuclear war etc etc.
>>3326459actually you can
>>3326499nope
>>3326433Brofist for the continuing everyday apocalypse.
Step 1: build a satellite that can bombard a small area with ionizing radiation.Step 2: point at Mecca
>>3326487Can we all just PLEASE use the second smallest bomb? Its that simple. We'll use 5 if we have to.
>>3326558second largest. Fuck me
>>3326487Fallout doesn't work like it does in the movies, ok?
ITT: /pol/ fantasizes about modern day crusades
>>3326570Uhhhh radioactive particles arent kicked up into the jet streams and carried around the planet like with fukushima? Damn son those Japanese take their movies seriously then.
>>3326478FOR THE EMPRAH!Also RKVs for the win.
>We need a new Roman empire. They sure wouldn't tolerate bullshit of this magnitude.Man, dreams...>Think about it. THE FUCKING ROMAN EMPIRE COMING BACK - THE ULTIMATE SHIZNIT, THE GREAT DOMAIN OF CAUCASIANSStrength and honour.
>>3326478>dat pic>dat filename
>>3326575The days of old, Gentlemen!But not just whites. All will have to stand against its slavery. Submit to nothing. Just look what it did to poor Indonesia. Full of them.
>>3326587Rome was surpassed about 300 years ago you nigger. A restored Rome would only be taking many steps backwards.
>>3326587We gotta raze the Vatican first. THEN we can talk Roman Empire.
>>3326587That also means tolerating Slavs... who are kebab removing special forces.
>>3326551Reminds me of the last mission in Command& Conquer.
>>3326587Will we still have food security, modern medicine, telecommunications, internal combustion engines, mass produced products, electricity, constant bulk oversea shipping trade, etc.?How Roman are we talkin?
Maybe because Terrorism is disgusting, no matter who does it. You cannot just run around bombing civilians anymore.
>>3326582Never said that. But ask yourself this.Why would some fallout that poses no danger to Russia, cause them to start a nuclear war?
>>3326647dude....okay...look...come here for a second.Year 1800: 1,000,000,000 humansYear 1900: 2,000,000,000 humansYear 2000: 6,000,000,000 humansWe can stand to lose a couple. Black Death made some breathing room in Europe for the Renaissance to happen.
>>3326647According to Islamic fundies, there are no civilians.And if they are all fundies, they are all combat targets.
>>3326650Everybody knows that the next time a nuke goes offit's on
>>3325453>This wouldn't happen unless they could pin it on a non-muslimSo, what do you expect to happen? "We can't be certain that it was an infidel who did this, so let's not jihad just yet. We need to be completely sure".
>>3326687>We can stand to lose a couple.As long as you're not one of those "couple" right?I bet you think you'd survive a zombie outbreak too.
>>3326724>So, what do you expect to happen? "We can't be certain that it was an infidel who did this, so let's not jihad just yet. We need to be completely sure"so fucking funny
>>3326712Pretty much this. Pakistan may take it as an excuse to nuke india or NK hit Japan then it snowballs etc etc
>>3326687The Bubonic Plague was natural, and yes, it did have benefits. However, Humans should be more civil then a mindless disease. >>3326694So because Islamic Fundamentalists want to kill civilians, that the West can as well? Then how does that make Americans or Europeans better then those they are fighting, would that make them equally bad?
>>3326728...i totally could...
>>3326758Its war. Its all bad. But if you want beef, then bring the ruckusWu-Tang Clan ain't nuttin ta fuck with
>>3326529
>>3326433>As a scientist I despise philosophy but am quite amiable toward religion.4/10, few will understand your troll.
>>3326712>>3326752That doesn't make any sense.Why would they?Why do you think that?Where has anyone stated "The next time a nuke goes off, we will just launch ours for the hell of it"Go on. Im waiting for you to back up your claims.
>>3326758You just don't see it, do you?We don't need to nuke civilians, we just need to kill all of Islam.It's their religion that makes them stupid and insane.If you want to be a moralfag, go ahead, but you're making the problem worse the longer you let it go on like this.I'm for stopping the problem. You are not.
>>3326855I saw it too asshole. why did you respond?Why am I responding?
>>3326871okay seriously. Breaking the atmosphere in here.
>>3326871Because N Korea desperately wants to nuke Japan already and just needs a reason, same with Pakistan and india
what other single act could make such a huge political social event?I cant think of any that could match this. Its like a ticking time bomb. Doesn't it seem so?
>>3326919Blowing up the trade centers was pretty damn close.
>>3326907same with Israel and most likely Putin's RussiaYou better like Radroach meat.
>>3326433>As a scientist I despise philosophy but am quite amiable toward religion. Religion is about divining the existence and nature of the supernatural which by its definition could never be observed or properly assessed, since any supernatural action would be an alteration of causality and only visible as the normal progression of natural phenomena anyway.This places religion outside of conflict with science.These non-disprovable claims would be:Jesus walked on water.God stopped the Sun.The Universe was created in 7 days.There was a worldwide flood.If a believing human prays to the Holy Spirit, his wish will be granted.>While philosophies(humanism and rationalism especially) interfere with the brutal objectivity of the scientific method by introducing ethical, moral, and emotional assumptions into observational methodology. Philosophy pertains to the physical but is based on hopes and subjective determinations, hence it is worthless and ineffectual. Philosophy is shit because I it makes claims I can disprove.These disprovable claims would be:Moral, non-empirical statements about the world, e.g. "murder is evil".Stating the validity of logic.I don't know whether you just swapped the term "philosophy" and "religion" for the hell of it or you're just a schizophrenic, but every word you wrote is dripping with insanity.
Islam will die one way or the other.
>>3326907So why would a nuke going off 6000 miles away give them that reason?If they don;t do it now for fear of retaliation, why would a nuke going off somewhere else change that?
>>3326931yeah i guess (in the most reluctant way possible)But Mecca has that spiritual tie that makes it so juicey. Every American wasn't required to visit the twin towers and pray around it for hours. They weren't required to pray 5 times a day in the direction towards the twin towers.
>>3326855>>3326875It's not a troll dumbass. I have an MS. And philosophy is shit, we have had to excise all the remnants of natural philosophy and indoctrinate heavily to totally erase all philosophical baggage from the scientific method.People today are trained to collect data, construct hypotheses, test, create predictive models, and revise them. That's it. You will find no Carl Sagans being trained today and that is exactly as it should be. No feelings, no assumptions, no impositions, not even curiosity. When you are actually doing your science feel nothing. We are getting far better results from this paired down data collection methodology. Science is no longer a philsophy or a world view. We are not on some quest of knowledge, we just want to create predictive models of natural phenomena.Thank you for exposing yourselves as faggot laymen with a boner for sensationalized SCIENCE you read about rather than professionals with actual understanding of how to apply the scientific method.
>>3325410>MeccaDid you know they're worshipping a meteorite?That's right. Their religion is based around a fucking rock from space.This is why religion is fucking retarded.
>>3326961>not nuking africa >>>/int/
>>3326970Because if they did it now the whole international community would back murrca in the condemnation of it, if the US has just nuked Mecca then it'll be a fractured opposition to all these faggots nuking each other
>>3327017LOL what?So you think that India will let Pakistan nuke them because they are distracted?Or theat the US will see NK nuke Japan and be like "Fuck it" We don't care.Are you serious?Dod you even bother tho think this out?
>/pol/ thread about rock in Mecca>HURR THEY WORSHIP IT>Apparently everyone believes blowing it up will lead to Muslims unifying somehowApparently the meteorite does have some mind control powers, though I see it's not the Muslims who are affected.
>>3327043It was decided in the cold war. Nagasaki and Hiroshima were it. Another nuke goes off we all die. Fuck read a book some time. Its good for you.
>>3327043No, India and Pakistan will nuke each other and the US will probably launch on NK, It's not MAD that stops them doing it, it;'s the isolation and sanctions that would follow
>>3327073So what? Its like blowing up the blarney stone?
>>3326986>It's not a troll dumbass. I have an MS.Blah, blah. A lunatic is all you are. Evidently, your idea of "cool" is picking up W40K's ideas a seriously running with them, like a 12-year-old.Regardless, I wish you the best and hope that your psyche will normalize in the future.
>>3327085Really?And what book was that?>>3327093So again. Why will Pakistan and India nuke each other?You still can't explain this. And the US will just attack North Korea? But earlier you said that NK was itching to launch on Japan. So which is it?What would the US get from attacking NK without reason?
>>3327144>Why will Pakistan and India nuke each other?Because they've been itching to since Pakistan seceded>And the US will just attack North Korea? But earlier you said that NK was itching to launch on Japan. So which is it?>What would the US get from attacking NK without reason?I was agreeing with your presumption that the US would attack NK after they launched at Japan
>>3326758>So because Islamic Fundamentalists want to kill civilians, that the West can as well? Then how does that make Americans or Europeans better then those they are fighting, would that make them equally bad?It's not about being morally better. It's about us being us and them being them. This is a fight and we must try to win. It is THAT SIMPLE.
>>3327169I was gonna ask "us and them? Why not just let each other live peacefully?"Then I remembered their whole...conversion thing.You know they'd be alright if it wasn't for the religion.
>>3327163>Because they've been itching to since Pakistan secededRight. So what changes after the first bomb goes off? Why do they not do it then but WILL do it after some unrelated nuclear attack elsewhere in the world?Ok, so again, why would NK decide that with a nuke going off thousands of miles away, now they should attack Japan. Basically it goes like this.If all those countries are as eager to attack the others as you claim, then there must be some reason they do not do it now.So what is that reason and why does it go away after that one explosion thousands of miles from where they are?
because terrorists dont have access to bombers
>>3327104The stone isn't some inviolable relic where an attack on it would be unprecedented. It's been stolen before, and the mosque itself has been attacked by terrorists. The Saudis regularly destroy equally important religious sites. And the Hajj for Muslims includes a huge number of religious sites, not just the Kaaba.This fetish for its destruction having any significance is borne out of our own distorted view of the rock and its importance to the Islamic world because of Saudi public relations and photo shoots.You'd certainly piss of a lot of Muslims all over the world by attacking it, but more because you're an infidel attacking Mecca and less because you attacked one minor relic out of hundreds. The only people that would actually unite politically are the Saudis themselves, though whether they'll unite under the royals or the clerics remains unclear.
>lists supposed miraclesAny interference by any supernatural force would appear as either a progression of natural phenomena or a hallucination on part of the observers(indeed all physical evidence would no doubt point to a hallucination)>thinks miracles performed by gods are the basis of their authority even within the stories pertaining to them rather than a device to gain attention of the individual in the story in questionNobody be retarded spirtualists or rationalists think supernatural action, assuming it even exists would be visible as such by obeservers.>The Universe was created in 7 days.>thinks seven days is not intentionally a parable to cement the Sumner 7 day week in Semitic cultureAlso the word used doesn't mean day it means "measure of time" could be a second could be and eon. Day is used is a translation from the Greek translation.>There was a worldwide flood.>implying this story is not see as non-literal parable by Jews in 400BC>implying that the flood myths in all Indo/Aryan cultures were taken as literal accounts despite that never really being the case.Basically it has traditionally been seen as a parable with no historical basis and is older than the recorded religions themselves.
>>3327163>Because they've been itching to since Pakistan secededYet they haven't done so since they seceded. Why will Pakistan and India nuke each other, again? They've fought wars and funded proxy rebel groups for decades against each other without nuclear incident.
>>3327225>If a believing human prays to the Holy Spirit, his wish will be granted.Technically if one petitioned their chosen god for a favor and for some reason this imposition is granted Also asking God for physical rather than spiritual favors in Abrahamic religions is a pretty apostate action, even if the common shits do it.>Stating the validity of logic.Logic is merely the internal consistency of an idea. If this idea pertains to measurable phenomena then data rather than the idea is what is needed to support the claim.>I don't know whether you just swapped the term "philosophy" and "religion" for the hell of it or you're just a schizophrenic, but every word you wrote is dripping with insanity.Sanity is for the weak.
>>3327194No-one wants to be perceived as the first to break out the nukes in the modern age, once someone else, especially murka, does it gives them someone to point to and proclaim the international equivalent of 'well he did it first'
>>3327194cause all bets are off.
>>3327169>It's about us being us and them being them.Only the terrorists themselves believe this, seeing everyone who isn't them as their enemy. We have the moral right, the technological might, the economic ability, and political influence to win this fight without having to fight on the level of a primitive tribe.
A modern thermonuclear weapon weighing little more than 2,400 pounds (1,100 kg) can produce an explosive force comparable to the detonation of more than 1.2 million tons (1.1 million tonnes) of TNT.What could a civilian get his hands on to be able to move 2,400 lbs?
>>3327120>picking up W40k ideasWhat I never talked about flying through space hell. I talked bout using nuclear pulse propulsion. I wanted to kill all aliens way before I found out about 40k. I just think the setting is hilarious.Also 26 year old petroleum geologist working in the Bradford oil field. So bite me dick cheese, this ain't a colloquim at the local college. I come here to fuck about on my day off.Go suck your philosophers' cocks, I'll be doing practical science and worshiping by dark God.
>>3327289oh yeah, so..wait. Do we ever have to worry about terrorists being able to "deliver" an atomic bomb? Or is that why they rely on chemical and biological weapons?or is that even true?
>>3327235>Sanity is for the weak.Oh, so edgy :DDDDDoes your Magos know you're harboring heretic thoughts?
>>3327245Thats your reasoning?Not the inevitable retaliation?But you are saying that a nation that is willing to immolate millions of people is REALLY concerned about how it will play to other countries?Are you serious?The only reason they don;t do it is because of the PR? Not the retaliation. I just want to be sure I'm getting you right.That as soon as a country thousands of miles away gets the nuke, Pakistan will say, "Ok, nuke India.""But sir, their retaliation will destroy us!""Doesn't matter. At least we won't look like monsters to the world press. FIRE!"You REALLY think that how it works?
>>3327295I feel so sorry for you, friend. :(Tell me: where did the bad philosophers touch you? Was it in your poo-poo? Is that why you're so mad? It's alright, you are safe here, there's no need to be angry.So let's turn that meanie frown upside down with a picture of a bunny! :D
wait guyswhatwhat ifwhat if we bombed Meccaand said it was Israel?
>>3327389well...it is a cute bunny...
>>3327396Why would Israel, or us, want to bomb Mecca?
>>3327120> anecdotal statements somebody makes statements half in jest and half in truth>BAWWW you're not the kind of scientist I fantasized about. You're a big meanie.I am only starting to earn my own MS in chemistry but I will tell you as another anectodal source that guys like him are actually a majority in the students at my department. That is to say religious, apolitical, dismissive of moral or philosophy, and obsessed with practice over theory. And really I only disagree on the last count, I think theoretical work is still of some importance though not as much as it was even 20 years ago. We are starting to run up against inherent limits imposed by physics itself. And theoretical work is relegated to very large(universal) or very small(sub planck) scales since we have observed everything else so much that we have a very good understanding of most processes. There is always more to learn but what it being learned is becoming less and less applicable to engineering.There is a major shift in the attitudes in the scientific community. At first I recoiled from it, but as I earned my BS I came to accept and even approve of this approach. One can't argue with results.Don't take our word for this but the way the scientific community is idealized and presented to the general public is one of the great falsehoods of our generation. And allot of the younger guys seem pissed off about it.
>>3327420to see what would happen. Can you think of anything that would shake the world in an Armageddon like fashion?
>>3327441>the scientific community is idealized and presented to the general public is one of the great falsehoods of our generation.This much is true. From the way media likes to present it science is as much a matter of faith for the average person as it is rational.
>>3327445Oprah getting caught in a pedo-goat sex video? Indisputably Oprah no question.
>>3327445Bombing Mecca would not shake the world like Armageddon. It MIGHT lead to another localized war between Israel and one or two of its neighbors, but that's about it.You'll need a dictator in charge of a superpower if you want Armageddon.
>>3327470well duh, Humans take complicated messages and simplify them down. If everyone knew everything that the collective minds of the scientific community knew then there wouldn't be people that would just faithfully follow whatever Dr. Ijumpedthroughthehoops says
>>3327487well thats the fun of the game. Think of a way a person or small band of people could turn the world upside down. think Archduke Franz Ferdinand
>How Roman are we talkin?In spirit. Keep all tech and knowledge, grow some balls, start calling the shots, etc.Fuck it, maybe reclaim the bellamy salute and throw it up while we ride gloriously into our capital after successful military campaigns.
>>3327487>It MIGHT lead to another localized war between Israel and one or two of its neighbors, but that's about it.Really? I kind of think it would lead to a state of perpetual Muslim chimpout.Its significance would gain a role in the Muslim religion like the resurrection of Jesus has in the Christian.
>What do you think would happen if someone completely destroyed Mecca?A war the likes of which the world has never seen which Islam would win.
>>3325560Is anyone else more than a little disturbed by the Samson Option?Just look at how big of a stink everyone makes about North Korea and Iran, yes no one says a word about the jews... because they are the only ones actually capable of acting. That is why they don't even talk about it unlike Iran and the DPRK who have nothing but words to fight with.Gotta love how there's a real authoritarian nuclear rogue state on the loose and no one does anything about it. They just turn the other cheek and bully some tinpot dictators elsewhere.
>>3327780That's probably your cue to take a step back from the keyboard and take a tour of the Middle East and North Africa.
we should get a chinese communist guy to do it.oh the hilarity that will insue.
>>3325651>>3325651And you'd deserve exactly what would come to you under their rule: A slow and tortuous death.
Now I'm not for blowing shit up for no reason, but I would love to see the shitstorm if this actually happened.
The Kabaa has been destroyed and rebuilt several times. Even their vagina rock has been broken and restored. You would have to nuke Mecca and Medina.
>>3328139No wonder they rape so much they worship a giant asshole.
I'm pretty sure somewhere in this thread, it was said or implied that Iranians aren't Arab.If so, IRANIANS AREN'T ARAB YOU FUCKING SHITGOONS.http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2001/10/is_iran_an_arab_country.html
>>3328139That's a meteor or rather a fragment of a meteor who crarshed into the middle east between 10 to 8 thousand bc and apparently nuked some villages. They worship the rock as something of divine but they were already worshiping it before they converted to islam.
Hey guys if we allowed the free markets to develop paramilitaries, we could just hire a private organization to sneak in and bomb it.
>>3328214Kabaa was also a temple (or storage house for idols, I'm not sure) before Islam.Muslims are nuts. They worship the same pagan shit pre-Islam Arabs worshiped. Allah means God in Arabic, meaning that Islam has not definitive God. My dick is Allah of dicks.
>>3328255Wrong, you retard, it means The God.In Arabic, Al/El = The
Muslim here.This may seem slightly perverse but I would actually love to see you kafirs make the attempt. See, I am certain God would not allow it to happen, and maybe when you got your asses handed to you, a huge number of you would even come over to us.
>>3330497Well what do you say my sandkaffer! Let's nuke the cube to see if God really exists! That'll be the best for everyone.
>>3330497If someone nuked Mecca it would no doubt go off.But no doubt some of the locals would follow the footsteps of the infamous brigand and charlatan Mohammad, and paint some common stone black and claim it is the relic surviving the blast by the grace of allah.So a nuke wouldn't change a thing.
>>3325545He was killed by a muslim.
>>3325545Because he was a multiculti fuck and appeased Islam. Hindu nationalists don't like that at all.
