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>Officer Timothy Smith said: "I could observe that [Mr Zimmerman's] back appeared to be wet and he was covered in grass, as if he had been laying on his back on the ground. Zimmerman was also bleeding from the nose and the back of the head."

>Another officer, Jonathan Mead, said in his report that the neighbourhood watchman "appeared to have a broken and bloody nose and swelling of his face".

>Another resident told police he saw "the black male mounted on the white or Hispanic male and throwing punches 'MMA (mixed martial arts) style'"

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-18111988

>yfw you were brainwashed by NAACP members and gunshy media into believing Zimmerman didn't shoot in self defense
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>support the black hoodlum that got shot
>support the jewish latino that shot him

this is like Hamlet's to be or not to be, /pol/ version
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zimmerman followed and confronted treyvon but when zimmerman got his ass kicked he took the shot
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>>3210628
Duuuuuude!
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what black eye?
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>>3210650
>implying its ok to attack someone for asking you a question

oh liberul
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>>3210650
Which is fair. Zimmerman has previously caught people committing B&Es in his neighbourhood. As a member of the neighbourhood watch, he alerted authorities to a suspicious person in the neighbourhood. It was a stupid move to follow him after the police told him not to, but that does not warrant getting beaten.

Zimmerman was attacked, and felt his life was in danger.
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>I SURE LOV JEWISH SOUTH AMERICANS BECAUSE I LOVE JEWCOCK

That's /pol/ for you.
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>>3210691

that's the thing that's not clear how the confrontation occurred, but zimmerman should have stayed in the car as he was told
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Several whites have been murdered by niggers as "revenge" for trayvon.
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all i ever believed was that shooting a kid warranted more investigation than it seemed to receive before attention was brought to it.

you retards harped more about innate evils of trayvon cause he was black incessantly.
some of you kids are worse than jesse jackson.
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>>3210722

>47 calls to police
>1 arrest
>1 execution

45 witnesses to pick from to testify how overly aggressive and racist Zimmerman was:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/12/george-zimmerman-trayvon-martin_n_1340358.html?1331601197
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This is your fault, "whites". Did you really need niggers as slaves? Surely there were more viable alternatives that would not have resorted to a life of crime when slavery was abolished.
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>>3210726
>hurr durr hide from suspicious people for the rest of my life
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ZIMMERMAN STALKED TRAYVON

ZIMMERMAN ATTACKED TRAYVON

TRAYVON WON THE FIGHT

ZIMMERMAN ENDED TRAYVONS LIFE TO SAVE HIS EGO

ZIMMERMAN WILL HANG
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>>3210802

Which black witness changed their story?
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>>3210777 It isn't revenge its an excuse. Something nigren sharpton likes. What does an inferior man do when they are faced with a superior man everyday. I'll tell you. They make up false history. They spread lies, rumors, and hate. They play on the heart strings of public school system conditionally taught guilt. They kill the superior man to only have themselves left as option B becomes option A. This guy isn't even white. But niggers don't care and never will. They only care about being superior and they will do anything they can to obtain that. Acting sub-human to correlate with their sub-human nature.
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>>3210851

>hurr durr pretend to be a cop, carry a gun knowing you can always defend yourself, start an unnecessary fight, get your ass kicked and kill someone due to you own stupidity
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>>3210789

Just because Zimmerman was released doesn't mean Sanford PD's investigation didn't continue, they were still investigating to see if there was a crime they could charge Zimmerman with. There just wasn't any evidence to discredit his version of the events at the time they originally bought him in, so they couldn't charge him with anything and keep him detained.

Now that the case has become a media circus it will be harder to obtain justice than it would have been if people just let the Sanford PD do their job and continue their investigation. Witnesses have been influenced by the media and some of them are giving different statements today than they did on the night of the crime, the jury pool is tainted and it will be more difficult to find a fair and impartial jury, etc. This whole case is fucked now. Fortunately the evidence supporting Zimmerman is still so strong that he'll probably be acquitted.
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I wish i could be mod and ban all the niggers that shitpost. I'm going to celebrate when zimmerman gets acquitted, and i'm not even American.
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>liberals
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>>3210836
Thing is, you can't prove either.
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>>3210722 You are talking to a wall if you're trying to get a message to blacks aka niggers. They don't care about the facts. They only care about stealing white prosperity. And killing the race that brought them to things their own sub-human race could never build on its own. They destroyed the original Egyptian culture with the same jealousy and covetousness. Niggers can't think. They only care about their niggerness.
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You are now aware that Tray-Tray had actually bought Watermelon juice cocktail, not iced tea
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>>3210958

oh god, my sides
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>>3210920
>Now that the case has become a media circus it will be harder to obtain justice than it would have been if people just let the Sanford PD do their job and continue their investigation

Do you have any evidence for the supposition that SPD did not all but close the investigation the next day? I ask this because they've come under fire for sweeping the investigation under a rug and the rumour is that Zimmerman senior may have pulled some strings. So do you have a timeline of events that points to SFD making any effort to investigate the homicide any further before the media circus got to them or are you just giving SFD the benefit of the doubt?
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The Martin family and Sharpton are all mad about this stuff leaking.

>How are we supposed keep a hated race issue up for Obama with all these leaks.

Thank you Orlando Cops!!.
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>>3210929
>You can't prove it either even though official witnesses have testified to the fact

wut
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This information was available from day 1, through the leaked police memo.
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>>3211128

Listen to Angela Corey's press conference, I'm not going to bother listening to all 25 minutes of it just to point out to you where these statements are made, but here's a summary of them I found on another site.

>She began her remarks in this manner: “We do not prosecute by public pressure or by petition. We prosecute based on the facts of any given case as well as the laws of the state of Florida.” Later she stated “I can tell you that this investigation was underway by both the Sanford police department and Norm Wilfinger’s office. The investigation was in full mode and the governor appointed us less than three weeks ago and we took the work that they had done which was significant …” And finally, nearing the end of the press conference, she gave this response to a reporter’s question: “They [the Sanford police department] were a tremendous help to us. They did what the police do. Anytime where you have a shooting scene and there is a person whose death is caused, the police launch a thorough and intensive investigation. That was done here, but before the investigation could be finished, there was a lot of outcry about this case and then it changed course and we got appointed to take over the investigation. … We have numerous homicides where an immediate arrest is not made. So, to us, it did not seem unusual. Judgment is made when the final decision is reached. And that is what we would have hoped the public would have waited for. But some people did not wait (1).”

http://osayande.org/2012/04/angela-corey-lied-why-the-state-of-floridas-special-prosecutor-cant-be-t
rusted-to-seek-justice-for-trayvon-martin/

And here's the press conference if you want to listen to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1r-idmJTK3I

So no, nothing was "swept under the rug." The investigation was still continuing.
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>>3210603
This is a no-brainer. I just assume not have armed vigilantes with obvious authority issues patrolling the streets. Regardless of whether George Zimmerman is convicted of a crime, what he did was ethically wrong and reveals all kinds of unpleasantness about our backwards gun culture.

That people continue to try and defend Zimmerman by attacking the real victim as a doped up thug reveals their own desperate insecurities around guns. They are incapable of admitting, ever, that we have a gun problem because it implicates themselves and their own paranoid, warped worldivew.
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>>3210691
Let's say that after Zimmerman follows and confronts Martin (which he shouldn't have done), and after Zimmerman fails to answer Martin's question "why are you following me" (which he should have done, and which could have de-escalated this right here) that Martin feels threatened and takes the first swing. Okay. Now they're in a fist fight. Zimmerman knows he's armed and Martin isn't. So far, IMO, nothing that justifies killing Martin. And let's not forget. The kid was KILLED.

This we know. We don't know a lot else. Did Martin ALWAYS have the upper hand, if indeed he ever did? The audio experts say it wasn't Zimmerman's voice screaming for help, meaning Zimmerman may have gained the upper hand at some point, and/or brandished his weapon, and Martin is screaming for him not to shoot. If Zimmerman ever gained the upper hand, do you still think this killing is justified?
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But OP, the intelligentsia over at Huffington Post told me that Zimmerman's injuries were self-inflicted because he's a racist who looks for any excuse to young and helpless black people.
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>back appeared to be wet
lel
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>in class with radical grad student TA
>brings up autopsy report that came in
oh boy I bet he's gonna eat his words since he read about the bruises on Traydawg's knuckles
>nope
>starts going on about the weed they found in his system like THAT is why he got shot
>stay quiet because if I just keep my head down I'll graduate in a month
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>>3211286 move to England then you scumbag. Who ever tries to beat me to death I will shoot in the fucking face & same goes to anyone who tries to take any firearm I may own. You fucking pussy scumbag fuck. I'd hang you right now if I was king. I'd know you couldn't defend yourself either. :)
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>>3211244

Verdict: guilty!
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>>3210691
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>>3211286
>what he did was ethically wrong
Yes. When attacked and getting the shit out of beaten you, the ethically right thing to do is to just take the shit "like an ethical person" until you're dead. Everything else be racist.

It's actually a _good_ thing that white guilt morons genuinely believe this. It means that they will die out when blacks move in to their neighbourhoods. The remaining generation of strong white men will act for a better, more realistic tomorrow.
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>>3211286

>I just assume not have armed vigilantes

Are you using dragon by chance anon?
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>>3211286
I'm gonna give you the benefit of doubt and say that you're trolling.
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>>3211351
he's essentially saying punch first and ask questions later.

zimmerman was asking questions before he shot.
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>>3211351
>nine divines
>not almsivi
n'wah
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>>3211361
>Are you using dragon by chance anon?

What? That was a copy/paste from a liberal forum btw.
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>>3211282
>cites Angela Corey to back his claim up of SFD continuing investigation
>provides another link insisting Corey is lying

Oh zimmerfags.
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>>3211339

this
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>>3211383

>I'd just as soon have
>I'd just assume have

Looks like voice recognition software to me. Just saying.
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>>3211404
I wouldn't know!

Free Zimmerman.
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y'all racis
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>>3211286

>guns are racist
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>>3211404
Idiotic posts like that where people can't form a coherent sentence with words they actually know are a diamond dozen.
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All this money wasted on a dead nigger. There are thousands of them dying in Africa right now. Shut your fucking mouths and off to the other continent if niggers are too damn important for you.
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>>3211391

The link was just to provide Corey's statements, you can believe them or not I don't really care, but according to her press conference Sanford PD had not "swept the investigation under the rug." If you want to think there's some conspiracy theory and that Corey was lying about the Sanford PD's investigation, though, I'm obviously not going to change your mind. Was just providing what I was basing my assertion that the investigation was still ongoing on, which was Corey's statements during the press conference about a month ago.
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>>3211404

If I can play doubles advocate for a moment here, mistakes like that are a diamond dozen.

Get the ship off your shoulder
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>>3211323

>i do not care what evidence they come up with exonerating Zimmerman

It's time to stop taking these people seriously.
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>>3210603

> you are visiting an area
> you do not live there, just visiting
> you are walking
> you think someone is following you
> you are less than a mile from your visiting house
> you also have a phone

What do you do?

> run home

No.

> call 911

No.

> hide
> wait for the follower to leave
> attack him

YES.

Public schools caused this.
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>>3211415 All forms of projection nothing to do with facts. Niggers are the ones who project their simple false realities on the rest of the nation. Witnesses, Evidence, Facts, and Truth are to much for racist monkeys to handle. They want white prosperity and they will lie steal and kill to get it.
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>>3211474

so did they check the phone records or is the cell on the ground enough evidence? LOL
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>>3210726
Zimmerman was NEVER told to stay in his car.
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>JUSTICE FOR TREY TREY!
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>>3211477
> you are less than a mile from your visiting house

He was a hell of a lot closer than that. He was in visual distance.
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>>3211462
>make a random comment on unrelated trivia
>get accused of having a chip on your shoulder

This is how zimmertard minds actually operate
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>>3211491

please dont use racist logic, only pro-trayvon logic allowed
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>>3211498
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>>3211519
He was making fun of you, retard.
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>>3211519

It's a doggy dog world out there, you just have to ignore these pre-madonnas.
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>"I know George, and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood. We'll just say that."

HE IS A HORRIBLE RACIST! IT'S IN HIS BLOOD! THOSE FIERY LATINS AND THEIR HIP-HOP!

Accuse someone of racism and then claim its because of his blood.

Liberals how do they work?
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>4000 fans
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>>3211553

i swear half my posts get eaten by captcha
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>>3211498
improvement
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>>3211545

I could of sworn you were trolling..
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>>3211564
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygI-2F8ApUM

If someone makes a TRAYVONQUEST it would be the best thing ever
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>>3211552
>liberals
>making claims about blood

You got it the wrong way around. Liberals are the party of reason, and as such they do not believe in sky fairies and genetically conditioned intelligence like conservatives do.
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>>3211560

Damn these HuffingtonPost users are really rustling my jimmies with their idiocies.
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>>3211552

>and I know that he does not like black people. He would start something. He's very confrontational. It's in his blood
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>>3211589

That's why they believe we all evolved equally, right?
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>>3211595

everytime they release a new racebaiting article the comments section is literally teeming with these gold nuggets of retardation
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and then there's this faggot

his douchy liberal face would be rage material enough
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>>yfw you were brainwashed by NAACP members and gunshy media into believing Zimmerman didn't shoot in self defense

Or they were blatantly lied to. Both sides of the social spectrum were blatantly fooled, even by both political sides of the media.

It's one thing to be some hippy libtard, but if you've been deceived you have an excuse
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>>3211323
>>3211351
>>3211415
>>3211436
>>3211451
>>3211474
>>3211525
>>3211560
>>3211630
>>3211645

How can people be so biased and stupid?
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these people actually sit on juries
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>>3211630
Everytime you see that crimestoppers badge, you can be assured that the post will contain comedy gold
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>>3211296
>The audio experts say it wasn't Zimmerman's voice screaming for help
The audio experts said they couldnt tell who's screaming at all because the quality was too bad
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>taking a stance
>not believing Zimmerman is innocent until proven guilty
You used to be cool, America, how the mighty have fallen.
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>>3211696
>The audio experts said they couldnt tell who's screaming at all because the quality was too bad

Actually, audio experts said that due to the voice quality they were expecting to get a 90%+ match.
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What's going to happen to Zimmerman when he gets out? I'd sell my story for millions to the media ghouls that tried to get me killed, then get some plastic surgery and start a new life under a different alias.
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>>3211707

Anyone who isn't 100% supportive of freedom for Zimmerman isn't American.
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>>3211728

[citation needed]

Even the FBI's audio analysis was inconclusive. The quality was too poor and there weren't enough voice samples to use.

http://www.wctv.tv/home/headlines/George_Zimmerman_Surveillance_Video_144870325.html

>The FBI says it performed voice recognition analysis on the recording. Because of the poor audio quality, it was deemed inconclusive.
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>>3211709 Niggers coddle all forms of projection. Projecting their dumb intelligence against the facts. That is how most black people think. Why do you think gangster rap was so big?
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/19/trayvon-martin-7-eleven-video_n_1529745.html

Time to harvest some OC!
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As a individual who hasn't really taken interest in this issue before, I'd like to ask a question.

Why do you all care so much?

And on top of that, why should I care?
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>>3210603

Anyone who didn't foresee this from the beginning is brainwashed.

Look at yourself and fix yourself.
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>>3211783
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>>3211783
>Why do you all care so much?

Because we have nothing better to do.
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>>3211351
>>3210691
i still can't believe how most of you insufferable faggots STILL don't have the fucking facts straight

>7:11:59: Zimmerman loses sight of Martin after M started running away
>Z continues talking on the phone with 911 for TWO MORE MINUTES, obviously not pursuing anyone
>7:16: physical altercation begins (T's girlfriend's call is dropped after noises of scuffle)

THIS MEANS:
there were FOUR MINUTES between Z losing sight of T and the fight.

T had all the fucking time in the world to cover the 70 yards to his house, but he TURNED AROUND TO CONFRONT ZIMMERMAN with the fight occurring 30 yards from Zimmerman's car.

get it through your thick fucking skulls already you bleeding uteruses
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>>3211351
Yeah, sure, the first thing I'd do when someone is following me around in the dark is attacking him instead of asking what he wants.
Those guys have watched too much TV
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>>3211333
Oh wow, I'm a little late here but this is hilarious.
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the funny part is where the liberals are saying it's normal to attack someone who is "following" you
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>>3211738
I support his freedom, but only because justice is and should be blind, and he did not actually do anything illegal. If he gets his ass beaten as a free man, I have no sympathy for him.
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Conservatives sure are dumb!
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>>3210650
Nigger started a fight with a guy with a gun.
How stupid is that?
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>>3211783 Because niggers lie, cheat, steal, and kill like they have a racial commitment to it. They have been jealous of white achievement and prosperity for eons going back to Egyptian times. And people wonder why our economy has been struggling for the last 15-20 years. To many niggers in work places that niggers don't belong.
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>>3211885
>being stalked in the middle of the night is completely normal
>because it's not illegal
God damn, and I thought libs hated the survival instinct.
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>>3211912
I don't find it shocking that he was unable to see a gun in darkness.
>>3211923
Thanks for your input, Cletus. One thieving little shit represents all blacks. As we all know.
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tray tray swung on zjewfag just like he swung on that busdriver,, and then he got on top of him and smashed his head against the concrete ,, zjewfag only fired one shot to get him off ,, if tray tray would have just asked zjewfag what he wanted he could have explained that his dad lived there , but he thought he was a thug and swung on him ,, just like he swung on that busdriver ,, tray tray was in prime physical condition younger stronger and bigger than zjewfag ,, self defense was obvious not to mention zjewfag's dad is zjewjudge ,, not the white mans fault, faggot libs
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>>3211927
>stalked
a person walking some thirty yards to better report to 911 where some young athletic kid ran to isn't stalking, like, ever
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>>3211953
Trayquan hit a bus driver?
source?
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>>3211962
If a guy with a gun is following you in the middle of the night, you should be pretty terrified. Zimmerman wasn't going out on a murder spree, sure, but he could have handled the situation so, so much better. He was a fucking idiot.
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>>3211987
>following you with a gun
he didn't follow Trayvon
read >>3211844

also, stop fucking talking about the gun like it's proof of intent
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>>3212010

>Emmett Louis Till was an African-American boy who was murdered in Mississippi at the age of 14 after reportedly flirting with a white woman
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>>3212040
Here's a great reason to shoot a teen: if the teen is trying to murder you.
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>>3212040
yes, those are the reasons Trayvon was shot, absolutely
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>>3212038
A nearly 60 year old case.... Is that all they have?
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>>3212040

It's funny how they left out "assaulting people for asking questions".
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>>3212018 You are talking to a wall if you're trying to get a message to blacks aka niggers. They don't care about the facts.
They only care about stealing white prosperity. And killing the race that brought them to things their own
sub-human race could never build on its own. They destroyed the original Egyptian culture with the same jealousy
and covetousness. Niggers can't think. They only care about their niggerness.
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>>3212018
>read >>3211844
I lol'd. That does not in any way prove that either Zimmerman or Travyon initiated anything.
>also, stop fucking talking about the gun like it's proof of intent
Showing off a lethal weapon can easily be interpreted as a threat. You seem butthurt.
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>>3210872

>ZIMMERMAN STALKED TRAYVON
followed

>ZIMMERMAN ATTACKED TRAYVON
false
>TRAYVON WON THE FIGHT
false
>ZIMMERMAN ENDED TRAYVONS LIFE TO SAVE HIS EGO
false
>ZIMMERMAN WILL HANG
false

nigger logic
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>Left the safety of his property with a weapon in tow to follow someone he didn't know with the intention of aiding in said persons apprehension
>Innocent man acting purely in self defence

Pick one.

Yes Zimmerman got his ass kicked. He was also the one responsible for starting the confrontation, undeniable fact, he admitted it and we have 911 tapes. Zimmerman shouldn't be charged for murder but reckless endangerment and vigilantism are undeniable.
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>>3211844

cool, you have some sort of evidence zimmerman didn't continue looking for him while martin hid?

no? alright then
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>>3212082
Seconded. Not sure about the reckless endangerment though.... hard to say if his stupidity put any lives in the line aside from his own.
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>>3212070
it proves that Trayvon doubled back, meaning he was looking for a confrontation.
He didn't go home.
He didn't call 911.
He doubled back to confront Zimmerman.

>Showing off a lethal weapon can easily be interpreted as a threat.
what do you mean "showing off"?
please state a source showing that Zimmerman "showed off" his gun.
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>>3212106
Yeah no lives were endangered... Except for the teenager who died.
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>>3211987

Hindsight is 20/20. Trayvon could have just as easily been one of the black men who had been involved in the 8 burglaries in that neighborhood within in the last 14 months. Or if Trayvon wasn't involved in anything illegal he could have run away (don't try to claim a 17 year old football player couldn't outrun a 28 year old man), it's not like he was far from his house. He could have hid. He could have called 911. He could have explained to Zimmerman who he was. He could have done numerous things other than act tough and punch Zimmerman. Poor judgement was used on both sides, based on the evidence released so far this wasn't solely Zimmerman's fault. At the time and based on the information he had, I don't think he acted unreasonably. But in hindsight he probably wishes more than anyone else that he had just stayed in his car, no normal person wants to kill someone, even if it's in self defense, I'm sure this will haunt him for a long time even if he gets acquitted.
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>>3212070 I've had a nigger point a gun in my face before. Guess why I'm here talking about your filthy race? Because I didn't attack the idiot. I talked him down!
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>>3212071
>Implying not rushing to conclusions isn't a valid point
Good ol' liberals working against old fashioned logic.
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Why are we siding with Israel? They chose lose.
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>>3212071 That is beyond stupid.
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i can't wait to see this place when zims pleads down to manslaughter

its almost gonna be as good as win obama wins reelection
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>>3212082
reckless endangerment is a crime, "following" someone is not illegal.

see >>3211844
to see why Zimmerman didn't follow Trayvon, and why Zimmerman did not start the confrontation.

Also, it was his job to keep an eye out.
Reporting the whereabouts and direction of travel of someone is NOT vigilantism.

Zimmerman never went more than 40 yards away from his car, but still he got in a fight with Trayvon 30 yards from his car FOUR MINUTES after he lost sight of Trayvon.

Did Zimmerman drag Trayvon back there after pursuing him and catching him without making any noise while talking to 911?
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>DeportAllConservatives
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>>3211844

>Huffpost's response
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>guy following you (when he shouldn't be)
>you get scared, think you can take him
>you can
>get him on the ground
>you start screaming for someone to come help you keep this stalker/robber/killer down
>he shoots you

Cause > effect
Following someone when you shouldn't have > killing in "self defense"
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>>3212205
>to see why Zimmerman didn't follow Trayvon, and why Zimmerman did not start the confrontation.

911 call: "Are you following him?" "Yes." Tell me how pursuit is not a form of engagement.

>Also, it was his job to keep an eye out.

False. He was self appointed captain of community watch, it was not his 'job', it was the police's job and they told him so

>Reporting the whereabouts and direction of travel of someone is NOT vigilantism.

Putting yourself in potential danger to aid in the apprehension of a SUSPECT is vigilantism.

>Zimmerman never went more than 40 yards away from his car, but still he got in a fight with Trayvon 30 yards from his car FOUR MINUTES after he lost sight of Trayvon.
Did Zimmerman drag Trayvon back there after pursuing him and catching him without making any noise while talking to 911?

You're making a lot of speculation. Maybe Trayvon returned to ask the man why he was following him? This also isn't a crime. And what is more likely, given the events of the night: Trayvon tried to beat a stranger to death for following him on a public street, or Trayvon talked to Zimmerman, tried to leave, and then Zimmerman tried to stop him from leaving and a fight broke out? Trayvon may not be entirely innocent, but neither is Zimmerman.
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>>3212249
whoops
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>>3211844
>Zimmerman armed himself with a gun and started following a teenager down the street
"That isn't a crime, he can walk where he wants and carry guns if he wants."
>Trayvon confronted the man who was following him instead of running straight home."
>"The only logical explanation is that Trayvon returned for the sole reason of beating a man so badly that he would fear for his life. At no point after Trayvon returned to confront Zimmerman could Zimmerman have started a physical confrontation that swiftly tilted to Trayvons favor."
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>>3212344
>mfw if Zim got physical first then Trayvon was just "standing his ground"
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Everyone who supported Trayvon is a puppet of the Zionist media. It just so happens that they are all liberals.
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>>3212377

doesn't have to be physical
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>>3212390

yeah man, we've seen it already
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>>3212098
Apparently you don't have any that proves he continued to follow the punk either.
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>>3212413

oh you mean the location of the body?

get lost kid
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>>3212390
But what sucks is that they won't admit it. I just wish that they would all get together in large groups (like they did when trying to rally support for trayvon) and scream aloud "I WAS WRONG". Then maybe they could see that basing your political idealogy off of how cool it will make you look was a bad idea. Obama especially.
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>>3212441
The location of the body was less than 30 yards from Zimmerman's SUV. Trayvon had supposedly been running, or fast walking, away from Zimmerman's truck for four minutes.

Do you honestly believe that Trayvon only got 30 yards in four minutes?
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>>3212441
So nothing? Got it.
Reach further please.
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>>3212469
This is how Trayvonfags really work. It's amazing.
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>>3212469

him hiding has already been established
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The media is just releasing a little bit of information at a time, to try to boost ratings.

What they are doing is wrong. Zimmerman has been forced into hiding for fear of his life. The media has created a ravenous army, who, if they find him, will most likely burn him at the stake or something similar.
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>>3212476


hurr fuckin durr
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>>3212503

>forced into hiding for fear of his life

that sounds really familiar
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>>3212511
Exactly. That basically is the extent of you trying to post.
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>>3212492

Two things:

Citation needed.

And besides which, if he had been hiding, the altercation took place on the sidewalk. Which means he would have had to leave his hiding place.
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>>3212520
It should. It's what's been happening to Zimmerman since the media decided to lynch him.
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>>3212490
He does have a point though....the four minutes between calls is a gray area. Zim is innocent but his intents/behaviors aren't fully clear.
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what do you think the reaction will be when he walks
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>>3212521

its alright kid, you've already sufficiently made a fool out of yourself

see you again with zims is hooked up for manslaughter
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>>3212524
Clearly Zimmerman drug him out by the hoodie!!!! ]

MSNBC TELLS ME SO!!!
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>>3212538
He'll be public enemy #1 for a while and probably be assaulted in the street by some disillusioned black. Which is fine, because him being innocent doesn't change the fact that he was a retarded spic.
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>>3212544
You sufficiently have posted nothing. Congratulations
When he is acquitted you can be butthurt in your mother's basement.
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>>3212544
See you again when Zimmerman's case is dismissed at the evidentiary hearing.

And by that I mean I'll see you when you and your nigger friends riot. You'll see me shotgun. It'll be the last thing you see. :)

Locked and Loaded for pavement ape...
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The white guilt was strong in this case. It makes you think, how often is the average liberal wrong on a day by day basis? Are all their major decisions wrong? That's a large population of liberals. It's depressing to think that so many people can be so easily tricked by obvious selective journalism. Didn't they want all the facts, or were they just happy with the information they were fed like idiots?
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>>3212575
It's called confirmation bias.
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>>3212305
Trayvon was running away, Zimmerman followed him to report his whereabouts.
Do you think he intended to overtake Trayvon and subdue him while on the phone with 911?

he volunteered, he was not self-appointed. His gun was given to him by the community because he was their watchman.

He never even tried to hint at attempting apprehension, stop talking out your ass.

I'm not making ANY speculation.
Trayvon returned after several minutes. This can be verified.

How in the fucking FUCK could Zimmerman try to stop someone who had run away and out of sight for at least two minutes while he himself stayed in place no more than 40 yards from his car?
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>>3212560
>>3212564

the mad is overwhelming
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>>3212600
No one is actually mad though, except that you're fucking retarded.
Like, please, never reproduce.
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>>3212344
it was Zimmerman's job to keep an eye out, his actions are in no way indicative of any attempt or desire on his part to confront or apprehend Trayvon in any way.
As far as he knew police could arrive at any minute, and he wanted them to know where he last saw him.

Trayvon ran away and turned back, never alerting anyone.
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>>3210958
WATERMELON DRANK
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>>3212637
When losing the debate, derail the conversation!

Trayvon: Dead Nigger
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>>3212637

the fact that we have about 10 threads a day on zimmerman being innocent seems to prove otherwise
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>>3212664
I thought that we agreed that his name was now skittles the wonder nig?
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>>3212664
Speculation and conjecture on the OP's part and you want to complain about what that person said? Hilarious.
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>>3212669
It proves the person should reproduce?
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>>3212675
You're absolutely correct. :)
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>yfw you were brainwashed by NAACP members and gunshy media into believing Zimmerman didn't shoot in self defense

Implying I ever believed that horseshit.
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>>3212708
Awfully convenient ad placement.
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>>3212708

>trying to use hashtags on facebook

apparently this has become a common thing among these retards #racewarnow
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I like all these people acting like following someone and asking them questions is somehow illegal, or justifiable grounds for assault.
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>>3212708
What's this business about a man's erection?
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>>3212796

this
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>>3212796
not only that, but having a gun is proof of intent to kill
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>>3212822

It has become increasingly apparent that some of these people are absolutely, unequivocally batshit crazy and more of a danger to society than Zimmerman ever will be.
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>>3211844
>T had all the fucking time in the world to cover the 70 yards to his house, but he TURNED AROUND TO CONFRONT ZIMMERMAN with the fight occurring 30 yards from Zimmerman's car.

You seem to forget the fact that Trayvon was hiding from Zimmerman. Trayvon was also clearly unarmed and unable to defend himself. If he had a rifle or handgun in his house he could just go there and arm up and wait but since he was unarmed then instinctively he'd have to ensure Zimmerman didn't ID his house.

It's well established that Zimmerman was hunting for Trayvon and we know Trayvon took cover in someone's porch. If he made the 10 second sprint from that porch to his house he'd risk having his residence ID'd by Zimmerman so it's quite plausible to believe that he was just huddled in someone's porch waiting for Zimmerman to go away so he could safely make the last step of the journy without being observed.
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>>3210603
>>Officer Timothy Smith said: "I could observe that [Mr Zimmerman's] back appeared to be wet and he was covered in grass,

>back
>wet

>not guilty

This is what Zimmertards actually believe
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>>3213482
>It's well established that Zimmerman was hunting for Trayvon

[citation needed]
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>>3213567
>start a fight on your back

people that carry don't just go starting fist fights.
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>>3213573
he called 9/11, was told not to follow him, and then he went and followed him and confronted him. Zimmerman has a right of self-defense, but so does Trayvon. Unluckily for him, Zimmerman had a gun and all he had was skittles.
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>>3213609
>Zimmerman called 9/11
wut?

>Zimmerman was told not to follow
a suggestion to not take action is not an order. if we all did that there would be a lot of people hiding in their bathrooms hoping the bad guys go away.
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See the whole problem with race in America is people keep bringing it up.

It could have just been "Dumbass shoots Kid"

Instead we got "Angry Mexican Man shoots unarmed BLACK Kid"

Shit's stupid, and people like Al Sharpton and Reverend Wright only profit from keeping the racial divide alive.

Fucking dumb ignorant people.
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>>3213653
>Angry WHITE-hispanic Man shoots unarmed BLACK kid
fix'd
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>>3213599

Except that Zimmerman tried to restrain Martin according to the prosecution and that's not really punching so yeah you're right but it negates the stand your ground law and actually moves the situation into a grey legal area because private citizens are not allowed to detain or arrest suspects using flimsy profiling.
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>>3213482
what in the holy fuck are you talking about?

he didn't have to arm himself, he had to call 911 like Zimmerman did.

when he was on the phone with his gf he was talking freely, and "walking quickly" back to Zimmerman.
You don't walk quickly back to someone if you're hiding near him.

He had gotten the fuck away.

Zimmerman wasn't fucking "hunting" Trayvon you fucking snake.
He stayed on the phone for more than two minutes after he lost sight of Trayvon, never moving more than 40 yards from his car.

i hope you get fucking mugged and get your head bashed into the concrete, waking up with severe brain damage.
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>>3213609
>was told not to follow him, and then he went and followed him and confronted him

[citation needed]

Yeah, try actually listening to the 9/11 tape instead of believing everything you read on HuffPo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zj7qEcD8R-8

The 911 dispatcher told Zimmerman to tell him what Trayvon was doing. When Trayvon notices Zimmerman, he starts running. IN ORDER TO COMPLY WITH THE DISPATCHER'S REQUEST TO KEEP HIM UPDATED ON WHAT TRAYVON IS DOING, Zimmerman then starts following Trayvon so he can keep him in sight. At this point the dispatcher realizes what is going on (you can tell because you start to hear wind in the earpiece and Zimmerman sounds like he's short of breath), he asks Zimmerman if he is following Trayvon, and Zimmerman replies yes. The dispatcher then tells Zimmerman that they don't need him to do this, Zimmerman says OK, and you can tell he's stopped running and his breathing returns to normal. PRIOR TO THIS, THE DISPATCHER NEVER INSTRUCTED ZIMMERMAN NOT TO FOLLOW MARTIN, AND AFTER DOING SO THERE IS NOTHING ON THE 911 TAPE TO SUGGEST ZIMMERMAN STARTED PURSUING TRAYVON AGAIN. After this Zimmerman is returning to his car and has lost track of Trayvon. The dispatcher asks Zimmerman for his address, for example, but Zimmerman says he doesn't want to give it out because he has no idea where Trayvon is and doesn't want him to overhear if he's hiding within earshot.

Now, between the minute or whatever that the 911 call ends and Trayvon's death, who knows what the fuck happened. It's possible Zimmerman may have found Trayvon and started pursuing him again. But there's no strong evidence to support this as far as I know, it's definitely not "well established" that Zimmerman was "hunting" Trayvon.
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>>3213677
>Except that Zimmerman tried to restrain Martin according to the prosecution
this is meaningless as long as we don't know who started the fight.

you're saying it like he was trying to make a citizen's arrest after successfully pursuing him
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>>3213721
>Zimmerman wasn't fucking "hunting" Trayvon you fucking snake.

He was hunting him. Zimmerman was on the hunt for young black males who looked like they did not belong. He's on record asking other people to be on the lookout for this phenotype. Neighbours have testified to this fact I don't know why you Zimmertards lie so much about this case.
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>>3213794
he was on the lookout yes, as a responsible neighborhood should.
If there had recently eight burglaries, all involving young black males, i would expect my neighborhood watchman to be on the lookout for and report any young black males.

>hunting
>hunting
>hunting
i hope you die a painful death
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>>3213789

I'm not saying he was trying to make a citizens arrest. All I'm saying is the evidence and testimony points to him physically approaching Trayvon and invading his personal space. Either it was to grope his wasitband to see if he had weapons or jewelry, or it could be to grab his shirt and just push him aside to wait until the cops got there or it could be to knock him down to the ground and detain him but since I have no idea whether or not Zimmerman carried handcuffs I hesitate to think he'd try to arrest Martin so I really don't know.
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>>3213648
Protip: Trayvon turned out not to be a bad guy. Also, the number of individual citizens who successfully deter and prevent crimes is very low. There are no vigilantes out there doing the world justice, no matter what your juvenile comic-book inspired fantasies tell you.

Here is literally everything that happened:
Zimmerman sees a black guy in his neighborhood, and assumes he is a criminal. Zimmerman has a gun, and fantasies of being a police officer, and a powertrip, and he follows him. He is advised by the police not to, but does so anyway.

Trayvon realizes he is being followed. They stop. They talk. Zimmerman is probably aggressive, because you can tell from the 911 recordings that he was agitated and assuming the worst. Zimmerman was probably confrontational and threatening. Trayvon thought he was in danger, because there was a complete total stranger following him around asking him what the hell he's doing here and acting like he's a criminal and won't stop following him.

It escalates somehow. We'll probably never know how, because one of them is dead and the other is facing jailtime. Zimmerman loses the confrontation, and he goes for his gun, and then Trayvon is dead.

I don't really care who swung first; Zimmerman followed and confronted an innocent person without any justification or evidence whatsoever. If you were being stalked through the streets like Trayvon, how would you respond? "I'm sure he's just a respectable citizen following me because he wants to know where I got my shoes. They are pretty rad shoes." No. It's threatening. Trayvon responded to either an actual danger (Zimmerman trying to restrian him) or perceived danger (being stalked by a belligerent asshole).

He can rot in jail for the rest of his life as a lesson to everyone else who thinks they're going to be a hero by stalking ordinary people because "minorities look shady."
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>>3213794

He was suspicious of young black males. So were his black neighbors, are they racist too? Might have had something to do with most of the at least eight burglaries committed during the last 14 months in that neighborhood involved young black males. Does reality have a racial bias?

>Though civil rights demonstrators have argued Zimmerman should not have prejudged Martin, one black neighbor of the Zimmermans said recent history should be taken into account.

>"Let's talk about the elephant in the room. I'm black, OK?" the woman said, declining to be identified because she anticipated backlash due to her race. She leaned in to look a reporter directly in the eyes. "There were black boys robbing houses in this neighborhood," she said. "That's why George was suspicious of Trayvon Martin."

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425
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Trayvon a nigger
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>>3213860
>All I'm saying is the evidence and testimony points to him physically approaching Trayvon and invading his personal space
not a single piece of evidence points to that.

the evidence does point to Trayvon running away and turning back.

Zimmerman never tried to restrain Trayvon.
stop
fucking
lying
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>Zimmer vs Trayvon.
>The Young Kikes.
>Guns kill people.
>Following is a crime.
>Zimmerman hit himself to sell his story.

All fields.
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>>3213794
>black people steal shit in neighborhood

hey everybody be on the look out for anyone! definitely don't narrow down your search to a depiction of someone seeing committing crime in the area.

inb4hurr durr profiling is wrong

>>3213721
>he didnt have to arm himself

it's legal in florida to carry a firearm on you. it's also legal for you to defend yourself with that firearm. by how you want everyone to live they would be completely unarmed and would have had their head caved in on the pavement.
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>>3213860
>All I'm saying is the evidence and testimony points to him physically approaching Trayvon and invading his personal space.

Please tell me what specific evidence points to that. I'm all ears.
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>>3213863
>he is advised by the police not to
a 911 operator suggested that they didn't need him to follow

and all of your post is utter bullshit.
you spew nonsense like vaginas spew blood
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>>3213910
>it's legal in florida to carry a firearm on you
if you're gonna reply to someone please make sure you understand what is being said.

i was talking about Trayvon, and how he didn't need to go home and arm himself against someone who wasn't even trying to follow him.
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>>3213943
>you spew nonsense like vaginas spew blood
liberally
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>Zimmerman shouldn't have shot the ape pounding him in the face.
I'm glad liberalfaggots actual believe this nigger loving bullshit, because as the amount minorities increase they'll be killed off because they won't defend themselves from their pet darkies.
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>>3213830
>i would expect my neighborhood watchman to be on the lookout for and report any young black males.
>DIE LIBERAL SCUM!
>DIE LIBERAL SCUM!
>DIE LIBERAL SCUM!

Well see here's the thing. He might have been a bit too overzelous and unrestrained and caused the death of Martin through his actions which makes him eligible for prosecution.

>>3213893
>not a single piece of evidence points to that.

You're twisting my words. What I said was evidence and testimony point to Zimmerman physically approaching Trayvon at close range. I don't know what exactly it was that he did to cause the fight because to be clear it's not visual evidence we're talking about but witness testimony also combined to an extent with crime scene reconstruction based on established facts.

>>3213924

See above and see my original post here >>3213860 and in particular the witness testimony. Now if her narrative is accepted then it becomes part of the record since whatsername is going to be called in and cross examined by the defence and the prosecution. I'm interpreting Tamara Lave's analysis btw so it's not even my own concoction. It's based on evidence released to the public ONLY so far but that's what the legal eagles are saying.
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>>3214124
>He might have been a bit too overzelous and unrestrained and caused the death of Martin through his actions which makes him eligible for prosecution.
what fucking actions? observing and reporting?

>HE GOT OUT OF HIS CAR WITH A GUN HURRRR
getting out of a car and having a gun are not proof of intent you bucketcunt.
Zimmerman got out of the car AFTER Trayvon started running, and surely you don't think he was counting on overtaking and subduing Trayvon while still on the phone with 911?

>DIE LIBERAL SCUM!
i just want YOU to die for using words like "hunting" when Zimmerman obviously never moved more than 40 yards from his car, and was perfectly admirable in his civic responsibilities.
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>>3214124
>You're twisting my words
no i'm not
you said
>evidence points to him physically approaching Trayvon and invading his personal space
and i said
>no evidence points to that.
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>>3214240
>i just want YOU to die for using words like "hunting" when Zimmerman obviously never moved more than 40 yards from his car, and was perfectly admirable in his civic responsibilities.

I don't see how it matters how far he moved from his car. He's not on trial for moving 41 feet away from his parked car he's on trial for provoking and shooting a homicide victim who was frightened of him and trying to evade him to the best of his abilities. There's no witness testifying that Trayvon attacked Zimmerman first but there is a witness who heard Trayvon ask Zimmerman why he was following him and also told Zimmermen to get off of him. This is what we know the prosecution will present to the jury and it will go against Zimmerman's own narrative obviously so based on witness testimony Zimmerman wasn't doing a "civic duty" by provoking a profiled suspect with absolutely no evidence against him.

And you wanting me to die for using a metaphor and you wanting random people walking around to be subject to search and seizure(as well as execution) along with your support for Zimmerman says a lot too.
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>>3214374
>I don't see how it matters how far he moved from his car
you said he was hunting trayvon
you can't hunt if you don't move

it's not a hard concept really, you're just not that clever

>he's on trial for provoking and shooting a homicide victim who was frightened of him and trying to evade him to the best of his abilities.
Trayvon didn't call 911, and he returned to Zimmerman FOUR MINUTES after Zimmerman had lost sight of him.

you have nothing.
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>>3214273
>no i'm not

Yes you are twisting my words completely out of context. you said that I said "evidence points to him physically approaching Trayvon and invading his personal space" when what I said was "All I'm saying is the evidence and testimony points to him physically approaching Trayvon and invading his personal space." right here >>3213860

Evidence AND testimony. Not evidence alone.
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>>3214374
>you wanting random people walking around to be subject to search and seizure
is that what Zimmerman was doing? Subjecting Trayvon to search and seizure?

Huh. I thought he was reporting his whereabouts and direction of travel to 911.
You know, observing and reporting?
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>>3214434
testimony IS evidence

i just left that out for brevity's sake

there are many levels of retardation to be discerned in your posts here
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>>3214417
>you said he was hunting trayvon
>you can't hunt if you don't move

He lived way way on the other side of the community like a dozen buildings away and he moved both on foot and in his car in pursuit of Martin. He's also on record in the 911 calls as both being in his car as well as moving on foot, scoping out Martin. This is a red herring anyway, you're just harping on a metaphor I used to distract everyone from the facts.

The evidence on the crime scene combined with witness testimony points to Zimmerman physically approaching Martin first rather than being taken by surprise as Zimmerman claims. This is what the state is prosecuting Zimmerman for and I'm quoting legal analysits who've read everything leaked so far and that's what they're saying.
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>>3214434
>omit a word from an enumeration
>twisting words & completely out of context
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>>3214512
so watching Trayvon and then walking 30 yards to better see is "hunting" to you?
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>>3214512
>hunting now means when someone is walking around

you've gotta be a troll if you honestly think that zimmerman is somehow in the wrong.
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>>3214512
>The evidence on the crime scene combined with witness testimony points to Zimmerman physically approaching Martin first

hohoholy shit
Martin returned to Zimmerman FOUR MINUTES after Zimmerman had lost sight of Trayvon.
Zimmerman was still in the same place.

How in the fuck did Zimmerman physically approach Martin first?
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>>3214512
>He lived way way on the other side of the community like a dozen buildings away and he moved both on foot and in his car in pursuit of Martin
he was on his way out to go to the store

if you don't know shit about this whole thing you shouldn't be engaging in any type of discussion on it
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4xCHWnSibc

Watch it until the end.
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>>3214455
>is that what Zimmerman was doing? Subjecting Trayvon to search and seizure?

This is what the prosecution will argue, yes. Go and scream at the Florida state attorney's office not me. I'm just relaying what I've learned about what's been made public.

>>3214500
>testimony IS evidence

Testimony that's accepted into court is evidence in the courtroom. Testimony that's leaked to the public is just testimony at this point figuratively speaking because she's testified to reporters and investigators. Testimony that's rejected by the court as hearsay is stricken off and is NOT evidence in court. So anything that she's not sure of, as established by the court, is not going to be allowed in as evidence unless well corroborated by other facts.
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>>3214512
>>3214512
>you're just harping on a metaphor I used to distract everyone from the facts.
if you say "hunt" instead of "observe" it shows you think he intended to kill Trayvon all along.
Get you and your whore mouth out of here

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