Sounds accurate

Then that's YOUR problem. I lost my job on October 7th, but I started my new job with equal pay and 100% family medical (who fucking knew that companies even did this anymore!?!) last Tuesday. Been there a week now. I was out of work for exactly 30 days.

What's your excuse again?

>posting on /pol/
>surprised that people are assholes
If you seriously think that all of America is as bad as the internet, you live a sad, sad existence.

>>320715
DID YOU TRY THIS?

>>320749
>What's your excuse again?
See, this is why everything you turds say is worthless. There is one reason and one reason only you hate on liberals and protestors for having no jobs, it's because you want to pretend you're better than them. Calling them lazy is one way, but far from the only way. There's really no way a rational person could support your point of view otherwise, it's really fucked up, but when you're using it to justify the belief that you're honestly better than people you don't give a shit.

>>320715 Search for a job for weeks, but can't find one
You've unnecessarily limited yourself. Be willing to relocate. There are plenty of jobs out there, you just have to be willing to go to where they are.

Oh, and not majoring in 18th Century French Poetry helps.

>Don't search for a job
>Randomly get asked if interested in job
>Interview this week
>fuck ya

What kind of job were you searching for?

>>320715
I have 5 jobs.
I have so many jobs that sometimes I pay my jobless friends less than minimum to cover for me while I play air hockey.

What's your excuse again

also one of my jobs is as a neurosurgeon.
The rest are entry level jobs, which I take up just so I can laugh at poor jobless faggots wishing they had one of my glorious jobs.

>finish trade school
>get hired by two firms within a month
>made 750 dollars in one day yesterday
feels good man.

>>320805
poet laureate

>>320778 because you want to pretend you're better than them.
>pretend
It's not pretend, its a fucking fact. I ain't too proud to sweep a floor if I have to. I ain't too proud to flip burgers if I have to. I ain't to proud to pick peaches if I have to.

It's the "entitled" class of losers doing the protesting that think they are better than everyone else. So you got a degree in Impressionist Art. Who gives a flying fuck? A bachelor's degree in ANYTHING doesn't entitle you to jack-fucking-shit. You still have to have experience, and lacking experience, you still have to start at the bottom rung, pushing a broom.

It's the real world, and it's a cold harsh motherfucker. Get fucking used to it.

>>320790

This. There ARE jobs for christ's sake. You have to look everywhere. There are jobs on farms, there are jobs in telemarketing, there are jobs in mining, there are trade jobs if you learn a trade, there are jobs on oil rigs...

There are jobs everywhere you just can't confine yourself to asking to be a clerk at a bank or a manager at mcdonalds or a waiter at saltgrass. Fuck the service sector, and if you go into the service sector don't go where everybody else goes. Look for administrative assistant work, pump gas for boats at a harbour, get coffee for a stock trader, apply for a desk job at a local talent agency or a casting studio for films.

Thousands of places to get work.

>>320839
That you honestly think you're better than other people simply because you are less lazy and your dignity is cheaper is honestly disturbing.

>>320850
not too many jobs for people with degrees in aboriginal children's wooden toys studies

>>320715
>complaining about not being able to get a job after only weeks
what the hell man, once you hit the 6 month mark you can start complaining.

>>320855
stay butthurt and poor, you loser.
Seriously lazy shits like you should just be rounded up and put into camps to be shot. You're a drain on the world and nobody want you here.
People want hard working men like me.
THE WORLD wants hard working people like me.

>>320871
Not really, you sound like an enormous douche, now I'm sure most of the kids at OWS are quite douchey themselves but I'd share a beer or a conversation with a bum over you any day, your personality is quite repulsive.

>>320790
>be willing to relocate
>let them eat cake

Right because moving to another region totally isn't a major expense that will set you back at least a grand.

>>320790
You're a retard.
Relocating costs money a lot of people don't have. Don't act like storming across the country is something everyone can afford, dipshit.

>>320855

>your dignity is cheaper

Nobody is asking you to lick shit off of the floor for a minimum wage, what the hell man? If there are no jobs in all of creation and somebody will pay you 8 dollars an hour to take out the trash and scrub the floors, you're really going to say "Nah bro, I'm better than that"?

we're not big on empathy

>>320883
I love this fucker here. Because I'm willing to bust my fucking ass to do what I have to to survive while this motherfucker sits in a drum circle complaining about "The Man", I'm somehow the asshole.

>>320883
At least I have a job.
Where does your personality get you? That's right, living off your fucking mom.
the jobless are like a lower breed of human, if they can't make the effort to fill out a fucking form on the internet then they're not worth my time.
Getting a job is a as easy as going to the store to buy a bagel.

>>320869
THIS. at least half a year

Also
>implying american unemployment isn't structural.

get a minimum wage job you dykes. It's a good thing I live in Canada though, there are PLENTY of jobs, especially when all the old people start retiring and begin swarming florida. I can feel Canadian prosperity looming.

>>320749
Where do you work, and what is the job description?

>>320884
>he thinks walking costs money

>>320911
What about families who had stable incomes and were living a rather stable financial life until the recession and they were laid-off. You can't possibly generalize your view on unemployment to everyone.

>>320849
>Farm
What if you live in the part of the country with no farms? You think people have the money to drive halfway across the country, rent an apartment or house, AND find a job with a farm?

>telemarketing
And once all those jobs are filled what then?

>trade jobs if you learn a trade,
Wasn't College supposed to help learn a trade?

>there are jobs on oil rigs...
Yeah lets just jump in the car, buy 250$ worth of gas and drive down there and do a job interview... And hope they can give a bunch of money up front for a place to stay.

>Look for administrative assistant work,
Companies are firing "assistants" for cost cutting.

>pump gas for boats at a harbour,
What if you live in a landlocked location without a single harbour... derp.

>get coffee for a stock trader,
Like a Stock trader is going to waste his money for a gofor in this economy.

>apply for a desk job at a local talent agency for a casting studio for films.
Because those jobs are all over the place and are in such high demand...

>Thousands of places to get work.
Most of them far far far from where you live.

>>320890
Yep. I don't want 8 bucks an hour badly enough to clean toilets, simple as that. Not worth my time. I'm better off sitting on my ass for two years and working an actual job for a year than working the late shift at mcdonalds for 3 years. Apparently 8 bucks an hour is worth cleaning up people's shit to you, being more of a money whore does not make you a better person.

>>320935
trade is different from college.

trade school is a very specific skill, such as electrician, plumber, mechanic, etc.

>>320906
>Because I'm willing to bust my fucking ass I'm somehow the asshole.

No it has more to do with the fact that you think the unemployed should be rounded up and shot. Saying things like that tends to mean you're kind of a dirtbag.

>>320931
Then they didn't try hard enough and they were not important enough to keep their jobs.
Its their own stupid fault if they started a fucking family when they weren't in a stable position.
And if it takes them more than 3 days to get another job then his family deserve to fucking starve.
And if he is that desperate he can start up a fucking business and make his own job. I seriously have never understood why the jobless don't just do this.

>>320885 Relocating costs money a lot of people don't have.
>implying you can't get in your car and just fucking leave
I'd be willing to bet that 70+% of the people reading this don't own a home. So what's from stopping you from moving? THERE IS NO FUCKING EXPENSE. You put your shit in the back of your car, gas it up, and fucking leave. Biggest goddamn thing you people own is probably a Futon. If you personally don't own a pickup, I sure as hell bet you know somebody that does! Failing that, rent a U-Haul trailer for $100.

It's not fucking expensive to move when you're young and renting a shitty apartment. It only gets expensive after you buy a house and fill it with shit.

>>320939
>he has no pride. i'd rather make 8 bucks an hour at mcdonalds than be a fucking bum.

>>320935
I couldn't possibly understand the issue in America as I am Canadian, but developing a useful skill, or obtaining a useful degree in Canada guarantees you a job somewhere.

>>320939
yes it does.

>>320911
>Getting a job is a as easy as going to the store to buy a bagel.


AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

YEAH EVERYONES JUST UNEMPLOYED BECAUSE THEY ARE LAZY AND THEY CHOOSE TO BE BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>320947
How about you stop being a drain on society.
The country would be a fucking utopia if we didn't have to throw it at all you lazy fuckers who'd rather sponge than leave their house.

>>320929
.

>>320939
It's people like you that kill the Economy. Every american who isn't working should be given a minimum wage job doing manual labour, enough said.

>>320963
yes exactly.

see>>320939

You have no fucking excuses.

>>320969
I think that you are the dumbest fucker on this entire board.
Also I'm going to apply for food stamps and welfare tomorrow,not because I need it, just to spite you all.
The best part is, none of these programs are going away any time soon and theres not a mother fucking thing that any of you worthless scum can do about it!
Fight the rhetoric war to your hearts content because it literally means nothing because I win the real war every time.
Just to spite you and just to rub it in your faces.

>>320935

Then MOVE! You're hopeless attitude of saying "But what if this goes wrong, and this goes wrong, and this goes wrong" isn't helping. I don't know where you live that you have no access to anything. Theres no mines, no factories, no desk jobs, no oil rigs, no coast lines, no farms, no lumber mills, no guitar luthiers, no auto mechanics (I have a friend who got a job at a mechanic's shop doing basic stuff that didn't require much training), no pest control companies, no pool servicing companies, no lawn mowers... I've just never had trouble finding jobs I guess I'm just an asshole. I can't fathom how it is so hard. I CAN fathom it if you are looking for specific work, like say being an accountant and there are no openings, but if you're just looking for work there is always work.

>>320928 Where do you work, and what is the job description?
I work in the lab of a pet food manufacturer.

>>320954
>no expense
>gas it up
Are you for real?

>>320976
>Every american who isn't working should be given a minimum wage job doing manual labour, enough said.

Bu-bu-but thats da cho-cholisim that you righttards hate!

>>320976
You know, there was a country that tried that once, giving everyone unemployed a job doing manual labor, you might not know this but it was called the "Soviet Union" and the people were actual communists.

>>320948
Right if you lost your job because the company downsized it's somehow your fault... Right...

In that case if you have a job... it's because you got lucky.

It wasn't your hard work, it wasn't your education, you just were in the right place at the right time.

>been filling out 20 job applications for work per week for a year and a half now.
>sending them to every single retails, fast food, bank, small businsess, computer repair, farm hand etc

>been going into the stores in person and asking to talk to the hiring manager/manger/owner about employment

>make call backs after I turn in the paper application/send in the email one

>shower every day, always look presentable
>only gotten 3 interviews

>my 4 "interview" was at a temp agency last friday

>just took a typing test for them along with a test in excel, passed both of them and had an 82wpm

But you know whats the worst of it all "Why don't you just go get a job"


If only they knew.

>>320997
Thanks for proving my point that the jobless are scum.
Maybe if you put all that effort into getting your lazy ass a job then you wouldn't be so mad.

Mexicans outside Home Depot don't seem to have a problem finding work. Most of them get around $8-9/hr and they don't speak english.

>>321003
Even at the FUCKING INSANE price of $3.10/gal, it's a whole $50 to tank up. Less than what you just paid for Modern Warfare 3, and WAY less than what you spent at Starbucks this month.

The fact is there are plenty of jobs out there. It's just that there aren't any jobs left that will pay you what you think you're worth (which I'm sure is above $50,000).

Mow lawns, pick oranges, flip burgers, etc. And don't tell them you went to college, for the love of God. If you're in college, drop out now.

>>320980
a schmuck on the net doesn't count the literal millions out of work you fucking retard.
Doesn't it suck that you morons lost the entitlement war? doesn't it suck that no matter what you all say that you won't win this war, mainly because you worthless hypocrites refuse to not pay taxes because "Me don't wanna go to jaiwl becawse me is afwaid of sacrifice fowr da things dat I bewieve in!"
Keep sucking your thumb. I'm going to continue to be an awesome parasite just to spite you because theres nothing that you can do about it!
hahahahahahahaha

>>320976

Everyone should be given a LIVING wage

>>321008
And it would have worked if they didn't have to spend 90% of their budget protecting themselves from our capatalist selves.

>>321008
Soviet Union wasn't socialist or communist you fucking retard

>>321043
Yeah I have a college degree and I wasn't getting callbacks for shit like McDonalds and wal-mart jobs. You can be overqualified for things, even with my poli sci history degree and this was is fucking ontario and the Canadian economy is supposed to be better.
So glad I'm in law school now.

>>320954
>no expense

Lets see, if you don't have a job, where does your car come from?
Or where does the money to pay for an apartment come from?
Where does the money to rent the U-haul truck come from?
Seriously? It costs money, if you do not have a job, you cannot do ANYTHING.

Plus a 7.25 minimum wage job doesn't pay for an apartment, I live in a "low cost of living state" and the average apartment is 800-1000 dollars without utilities.

Lets say that hypothetically you manage to do the impossible and find a job, changes are you will NOT be getting 40 hours a week. But say that you did.

40 hours a week at 7.25 is 1160 a month.

That would be 160 left over each month if the apartment was a solid 1000. That isn't counting utilities or a car (or if you live on the coasts paying for public transport) not to mention food and phone etc.

>>321011
The company downsized and your weren't enough of an asset to keep hold of.

How is that anybody's fault but your own?

and as I said, if you're having that much trouble finding a job make one for yourself.

>>321055 a LIVING wage
No. People should be paid what they're worth. Wages are a private contract between employer and employee. Period, end of discussion.

>>321029
That's not "fucking insane". That's half of what it is everywhere else. Gas prices need to go up another $5 before we'll get serious in investing in alternative energies.

>>321026
whose mad? I fucking loath uninformed people that have never struggled or even lived a real life. So when you say shit like this,I do things just to spite you.
And like I said, theres not a fucking thing that you can do about it.
Not that you ever would anyway.

>>321002

Like this shit, look at that. I don't know if that is skilled work but that is one hell of a wierd job people wouldn't immediatly think of going for.

There is work in wierd places, young people just confine themselves to the most obvious service sector work even though for the most part there should be openings in those shit jobs all the time.

>>320948
When was it ever easy to start up a business?
You need to have an idea for a product, understand how business works, be able to market the product, have the capital for all of that, etc.

The reason teh average person DOESN'T do that is BECAUSE they don't have those things.

>>321073
Live in a smaller city.

>>321062
No? Then why do you hate communists? Hating communism is entirely reasonable if it's based on the belief that the Soviet Union, China, Cuba and Best Korea are were all communist states and that's why they were so fucked up, it's pretty much an indisputable justification but it's the only justification that isn't retarded.

>>321074
Take your "people are assets" bullshit back to the 1800's please.

>>321023
>only 20 a week

maybe if you did 20 a day you would have had 28 interviews by now.

And 20 a day isn't even that many, when i was looking for a job I did 10 an hour for 8 hours a day. That's 80 a day. I had an interview by the wednesday and a job on the friday.
Step up or be left in the dirt.

>>321029
I hope you still live with your parents because there's no reason I should have to explain to a grown-man with actual responsibilities why it's not just a matter of "tanking up".

>>321074
>If you aren't the greatest thing ever in the world its your fault
>"I don't understand that not everyone can be super amazing"

Shouldn't take being Superman to hold a basic job.
>>321095
My city is only 60 thousand. In Iowa.

In inherited a couple hundred thousand dollars from my grandfather and I'm next in line to inherit the family business after my dad passes on.

Get a job you fucking hippy.

>>321098
Uh, I never said I hate communists?

A core belief of socialism is to transfer the means of production to the laborers. Neither China or the USSR did this, they simply traded one oppressor (business owners) for another (the government)

>>321073
>I live in a "low cost of living state" and the average apartment is 800-1000 dollars without utilities.
No, that's not fucking true, I have a pretty nice apartment in LA and it's 800 a month, there's no fucking way there aren't apartments available for $600 a month at the very absolute most in any place with anything near a "low cost of living".

>>321083
But you do seem mad.

also
>not that you would anyway
You see, I'm the one that put in the effort to find a job, you didn't. You're the lazy one here, not me.

Seriously put the effort you're using to spite me into effort to find a job and maybe you'll get paid for being a whiny shit. I'm just trying to help bro.

>>321062

>no true scotsman

>implying that centrally planning the economy and using a portion of manufacturing to attempt to feed, house and cloth everyone isn't socialism.

Sure, since the soviet union was so shitty now we're just going to say "It was just a shithole, it wasn't socialist".

>>320998
>You're hopeless attitude of saying "But what if this goes wrong, and this goes wrong, and this goes wrong" isn't helping.
Because never thinking about things going wrong works so much better in the past decade.

"What if we can't keep up the loan payments we took out to buy this house?"
"Stop thinking about things that might go wrong!"

"What if we make loans to people who can't pay it back?"
"Stop thinking about things that might go wrong!"

"What if what the bubble bursts?"
"Stop thinking about things that might go wrong!"

>>321073
I simply don't believe you. Also, room mates

>>321135

Please see:
>>321128

it gets worse OP

>finally find a job delivering newspapers
>make a comment about not being able to afford an apartment because foreign speculative property investment has driven rent in your home town through the roof
> get a better job then, communist
> Canada

>>321138

God damnit thats not what I meant. WITHIN REASON. You seemed like you just wanted to bitch and point out how I was wrong to start an argument because you came on here reading these posts looking to get mad.

I'm saying there is work in the United State of America if you want to find it, and if you can't find work because you are thinking of everything that could go wrong then you are being a pessimist in a bad way and restricting yourself from getting work.

>Work for 6 years
>Saved almost everything earned
>Bored with work
>Quit job
>Do fuck all for last year
>Hmm, I wonder if I should get a job soon

Is it really that hard to get a job right now? Or is it just a lack of experience?

>>321102
There aren't 20 positions being posted per day I qualify for.

I am a 20 year old guy in college, I don't qualify for "Welding Overseer" or "Assistant Manager of Finances" I've only had 4 jobs, seriously. As I said there WERE 20 jobs that I am applicable for, I'd totally apply for them.

But to note what you said, that would be well over 600 applications. No human being, expecially a young 20 year old able bodied male should have to send out 600+ applications over a years time to JUST get a minimum wage job.

>>321132
Nope, I've already checked out the apartments in my city.

The cheapest at the most was 800 a month and it was in the SHITTIEST part of town where ALL of the crime is.

There is literally 2 choices for not living with your parents in my state.
A. Be able to afford an 800-1000+utilities+vehicle
or
B. Have friends and split an apartment or college house.

>>321158
You don't believe that it costs money to move and if you don't have money you can't move? Or that 7.25 at 40 hours a week isn't enough to pay for an apartment and utilities and vehicles?
Hell thats not even including internet or a computer to fill out the inevitable online only applications.

That requires friends.

>>321158
I see.
So let me get this straight...
The plan is to move to another region, find a job, and find a roommate, on a single tank of gas.

This is a practical plan to you?

If you cannot find a job your standards are too high.

Sometimes you have to work beneath your pay grade.

>>321173
Judging for a guy who's been applying non-stop for a year, doesn't have a criminal record or bad credit, has 4-5 years of work, has references and has only had 3 interviews. and 3 callbacks.

>>321193
But I am applying FOR minimum wage. Thats as low as you can go. Hell I even applied for that shitty 12 hour a day minimum wage farm work in my state.

>>321184
See the major fault in his idea
Move to another region THEN find a job?
Even if you have to money to move, what if you move and cannot find work? BAM you are fucked worse than you once were. Or the idea that everyone has a friend they'd be willing to live with is biased

>>321193
do you think a company would hire a guy with a college degree as a janitor?

>>321101
>>321113
Being able to do something in a company that makes you a valuble member of the team doesn't make you superman or a victorian. If you're not valuble and you can't offer a skill or perform a task that make syou worthwhile to keep around then the company has every right to get rid of you.
If the company is going through a bad patch you better damn well make sure you're useful or you're going to get cut, it's simple business.

>>321088
Starting a flower decorating business out of your own home costs nothing for example. If you have no ideas and you can't buy a book on business then you don't deserve money.

>>321178
>No human being, expecially a young 20 year old able bodied male should have to send out 600+ applications over a years time to JUST get a minimum wage job
Meh, that's less than 2 a day and if your ass is sitting around unemployed there's no reason you can't manage that.

>GPA under 3
>want to get into a competitive field
>friends tell me lolno won't happen, even easy fields aren't hiring
>call 74 places in the area in my field
>get job in under a week
people are just fucking lazy. they go on monster.com or whatever, send their resume to like 3-4 businesses and wait a few months to try again.

or they're fucking retarded and write all sorts of dumb shit on their resume that makes them unemployable, like really dumb spelling errors or false information. if you can't proofread your resume you don't deserve a decent job, period. if you think "the job hunt" is emailing your resume to a couple of people and waiting for them to do all the work, then you don't deserve one either.

>>321193

this is the wrong approach imo

OP start to look at WEIRD jobs

there a lots of WEIRD jobs out there that no one wants

I work from 2am to 6am 7 days a week

talk about weird hours

I guess that's why no one wants the job

I guess that's why I'm employed now

>>321226
leave it off your resume

>>321236
>start a flower decorating business even though someone has no capital, no business experience and flower decorators aren't exactly in high demand.

I really love the libertarian fantasy land.

I live in Alberta so I am sheltered from this recession/unemployment spike but I wonder...if there are no jobs, what is a person supposed to do? Individually, sure you can probably find a niche and fill it but everybody cant do that. Didnt 16 people apply for every one of the 50 000 mcdonalds jobs you guys just had open up/created/whatever? And this silly "no job? must haver shit degree" seems stupid, if nobody is hiring, isnt whatever degree you have pretty much a moot point?

It seems incredibly simplistic to just say "get a job", why not say exactly where, exactly who is hiring, exactly what requirements must be met? If you cant do that you probably have no business making comments to people since you are probably talking out of your ass.

Btw, just a suggestion, its not a "job" persay but when I was in the USA and could not legally work I bought used cars and simply sold off the parts in the classifieds, made people come and take them off the vehicles themselves too. I was living off my savings so I wont pretend that its some awesome boon but I made a few extra grand many months that way. All you really need is a garage and a yard to store extra vehicles to rotate into the garage depending on how ambitious you get. And of course some tools for those folks who want to buy but dont know how to get the parts they want themselves.

I know alot of unemployed people cant do stuff like that, live in apartments, cant spare the overhead ect but it might be worth checking into if you live at your parents house or something and they'd be cool with it.

>>321236
You do realize that the vast majority of startup businesses fail within the first five years right? Like, you may think you sound like a good compassionless conservative saying shit like that but even outside of the obvious implication that everyone who fails at making a startup is a failure as a human being and deserves to eat shit and die you are actively encouraging behavior that will only cause net harm for the economy.

>>321178
>But to note what you said, that would be well over 600 applications. No human being, expecially a young 20 year old able bodied male should have to send out 600+ applications over a years time to JUST get a minimum wage job.

That makes you seem like a lazy fucker. You jobless always have a fucking excuse for everything. You always have an excuse to not try or make an effort. Just apply for everything even if you aren't qualified, any interview you get will serve as good experience even if you don't get the job and even if you don't WHY FUCKING NOT APPLY FOR THE HELL OF IT?

Hear there are a ton of jobs in North Dakota

>>321236
>Starting a flower decorating business out of your own home costs nothing for example.

>>321211
>See the major fault in his idea
>Move to another region THEN find a job?

How about you apply for the job over the internet. You see you don't actually have to be there to do it. Then when they call for an interview just come to an arrangement since you're not in the area, most employers are very accomodating about that.

>>321248

lol I can just imagine his face while he read that post

> but if I don't tell everyone I have a degree, how will they all know that he is better than them?

I don't talk about college at work. it just makes all the idiots I work with jealous and defensive

when they don't know you went to college they will publicly state that you am the smartest guy there and should be in charge

when they know you went to college they won't even admit you're right when you say 1+1=2

>>320998
>I've just never had trouble finding jobs I guess I'm just an asshole
There's one of those classic republican anecdotes we've all come to know and love.

>>321255
Alberta bro here as well, just got an awesome 40k/yr + commissions and bonuses insurance office job despite being a college dropout with no experience!

>i can afford high speed internet, a gaming computer, a macbook, designer clothes, and a smart phone with unlimited talk/text
>i can't afford a tank of gas
no you just have terrible priorities

>>321286
people are going to wonder why you have a 4 year gap on your resume you retard.

Can someone give me tips on writing a decent resume?

>>321236
>Cost nothing
Seeds
Potting Soil
Land or pots to grow them
Water costs
Lack of demand

Be better off selling matchsticks, at least then people would pity you.

>>321226
Dunno, I've been a janitor while I was in college, but they only hired me because I was young and could lift 200 pounds.

>>321236
You wouldn't of been hired if you weren't valuable. Companies aren't going to just hire people for the fuck of it.

And what is the market for "flower decorations" yep, sure heard of all those college kids being able to pay to not live with their parents with their flower decarations. Also, flowers costs money to buy and or grow, not to mention the materials to make the shit.

If decorating flowers would make money, I'd be using my already god give artistic talents doing commisions.

>>321238
>2 a day
The guy said send out 20 applications per day, I said that I've increased my output in the last month to 30 a week. That means in the last month I'd of sent out 600 applications.

And once again, if there were more than 2 jobs I could apply for that appeared in the newspaper or job boards, I'd apply to them. Remember, the average 20 year old doesn't have the work experience nor would get hired picture related, its the jobs in my area

>>321241
So because I've been calling places, going in person to talk to managers and owners, sending in applications EVERYWHERE I don't deserve a job? I do not make mistakes on my applications nor stupid ones. I'm using my college job board, going to job seminars, news papers, everything. yet no job

>>321247
I put on one of my applications that I was only able to work 3rd shift shit, then they gave me an interview the next day, then didn't hire me.

>>321302
>he didn't work during college
wow, must be nice

Anyway, they'd probably prefer a guy with a gap as a janitor vs someone who has a degree and will want to move up and out

>>321320
>30 a week
so 4 per day? wow what's that take, 2 hours tops? no wonder no one will hire your ass, you probably would play facebook games for the 6 hours a day you're at work.

>>321295
Yeah we're pretty much set up here.
Still, its not like this everywhere.

>>321271
Not if you keep spreading that around... Then people will head up to North Dakota find out all the jobs are taken and be left in the middle of nowhere.

>>321268
Applying to a place I wont get the job for serves me positively how? What would be the point? That would be like a 19 year old running from president. He can't because he isn't 38. What would be the point. Also, don't you fucking dare say that I am not putting effort it. I could just you know, not be searching for jobs, not applying and busting ass to talk to people and network and phone calls and check out temp agencies. Apparently unless you aren't superman you aren't doing enough
>>321271
If we can't get hired to flip burgers or enter data or say "hi, welcome to walmart" 9/10 says that we wouldn't get hired to use COMPLEX MACHINERY ON AN OIL FIELD

>>321334
do you think there is like an unlimited about of job openings?

>>321254
It was an example, you fucktard. You design your business model around what is needed and what will make you money. If you're an unskilled untalented piece of shit, don't come crying to me when you can't get work.

>>321320
Businesses hire people according to what they need. If you make yourself something they'll always need, even going beyond your job description if needed, then you'll always have work. If you don't want to make that effort you don't really want a job then do you?


I'll tell you all a secret. I'm actually in work right now. I work as a manager in a hotel, in quiet periods I browse 4chan. I have hired 8 new staff in the past 3 months and as long as your resume has good spelling then you'll have an interview. It's not fucking hard to get a job.

>>321320
>Emissions Regulatory Compliance Professional
Well if the Republicans get elected then that job is gone.

>>321284
Because I'm applying for jobs over the internet (and in person) FOR JOBS IN MY OWN FUCKING REGION IN MY STATE AND I AM NOT N O T NOT GETTING INTERVIEWS. SO WHAT IS GOING TO MAGICALLY MAKE THE FUCKFACE EMPLOYER FROM A DIFFERENT STATE CALL FOR AN INTERVIEW WHEN THE PEOPLE I AM IN WALKING OR NORMAL DRIVING DISTANCE TO WONT AFTER I'VE MADE PERSONAL CALLS AND SENT IN MULTIPLE APPLICATIONS.

>>320998
Dear sir, where does the funding come from to pay to move and for a new place of residency if the individual cannot find work?

And are you assuming that if the state has those institutions that you listed and that if an individual applies to work there they automatically get the job?

Is so I should be a janitor/factory worker/computer repair person by now

>This thread an hour after creation

>>321236
one step ahead of you, as a matter of fact ive funded my unemployment by doing some work with flower..."decorating"

>>321363
Oh good. I was thinking about applying to the night-shift cleaning crew for a hotel. So I guess that means my chances are good, right?

>>321363
you need a money to start a business idiot. Unless your offering to mow lawns or sell scrap metal.

>>321302
and people are going to wonder why you have a 2 year gap after college because you wouldn't apply for any janitor jobs.
Which one do you think is worse?

Do what you can to get any fucking job, right now.

>>321361
if you apply outside your area then yes.
If you're not willing to move for a job then you don't deserve a job.

>>321388
you can apply for the janitor jobs but you won't get hired. Do you think an employer gives a shit to how many places you applied too and had no chance of getting?

>>321398
And we come full circle

>>321385
If you don't have money offer to mow lawns or sell scrap metal until you do have money you retard.

>>321383
yeah that is practically the worst job you can get at a hotel. It'll be fine working the shifts but everybody will look at you like hispanic scum.

>>321284
>Then when they call for an interview just come to an arrangement since you're not in the area, most employers are very accomodating about that.
>hmm, who should I hire? the guy who can make it in for an interview or the guy who hasn't even started working for me yet and is already busting my balls...decisions, decisions....

>>321399
If you can't even get hired to be a janitor then you might as well just fuckign hang yourself now.

>>321363
BUT THE JOBS YOU HAVE DURING YOUR LATE TEENS AND 20's ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THOSE SKILL BUILDING JOBS
THIS IS THE TIME WHEN IT HAPPENS!!!
HIGH SCHOOL NOR COLLEGE GIVES YOU THOSE SKILLS, ITS THE JOBS YOU GET NOW!
>>321363
I've never spelled anything wrong on my applications and I always spell check and use proper grammar.
>>321334
So lets see
I have school for 8 hours a day+driving around town going to buisnesses asking about employment+filling out job applications

ONCE AGAIN
IF THERE WERE MORE THINGS I COULD FILL OUT I WOULD

You talk as if there are more than 30 things a 20 year old with only 5 years of work experience can apply for. Did you not even look at the picture I posted? THATS THE SHIT THAT IS POSTED. I DO NOT QUALIFY FOR THAT!
>>321398
Let me get this straight
we just went
1. I can't get a job
2. Thats because you are lazy
3. But I've applied everywhere
4. Then move
5. But if I can't get a job, I dont' have money, then I dont' have money to move or buy a place to live
6. Then get a job
1. But I can't get a job


WAT

>>321428
>mfw I've applied to multiple santiation/garbaage person/janitorial positions
>mfw no interviews for any of them.

>>321412
You really have no clue about the amount of capital needed to start a business do you?

>>321430
You can build skills outside of a job you faggot.
Volenteer or something.
In my late teens I worked in a hospital interviewing doctors for their positions as a volenteer.

So, gentlemen, I work as a security supervisor. I seriously work my ass off for very little money. The majority of people left my site due to not receiving raises after years of work. Personally, I have not seen a raise in four years of hard work and dedication. There have quite literally been 16 hour gaps on Saturdays and Sundays. Thirty-two hours between two days are completely open, and are filled by me and me alone. I have been doing this for nearly six months, now. We received a few applications every month, but most people decide that they don't want the job because it doesn't pay enough at $9.50/hour in the state of Wisconsin. It's a small town, too. A few people don't like the hours, but if you're desperate, why don't you just cut your losses and take the job? It's full time hours. Can somebody tell me why nobody is taking this position? I seriously want to know.

>>321456
> Just volunteer
>why yes you can live off no income!

>>321465
Because they're lazy and the government sppon feeds them so they don't have to work.

>>321456
I have volunteered. I have 2 years of volunteer work.

>interview doctors for their positions
They put a teenager in charge of hiring or were you just job shadowing.

>>321465
But what is it? I've considered applying for security, but I am not exactly confident in my strength to beat down tresspassers.

>>321456
must....resist....urge... to point out.... spelling... fail..AH FUCK IT

I SEE SIR THAT SPELLING WASN'T ONE OF THE SKILLS YOU DECIDED TO BUILD UPON

>>321476
Then what are you doing right now?

If you have no job yet can afford to live how come when you leave your house to volunteer you suddenly can't afford it.

yet another lame excuse from the lazy jobless masses.

>>321496
I'm not the unemployed I'm just pointing out that not everyone has the option of volunteering.

>>321485
Why aren't you volunteering right now?
Volunteer until you get a job don't just think those 2 years is good enough and then stop.
If you're working, any work at all paid or not, you;re more likely to get another job.
Most applications these days actually ask what your current employment is. Volunteer work still counts as this.

>>321492
I'm originally icelandic, who cares if I spell volunteering incorrectly.

>be black
>live in ghetto
>no jobs, everywhere is fully staffed
>decide to rob people
>take that money and buy drugs to sell
>white people on 4chan call me nigger but i'm doing what i have to do to survive
>american dream achieved

>>321496
His point is that imagine a college student who cannot find work, and is about to be homeless after college, imagine that guy now going out to volunteer. It wouldn't pay for an apartment or rent or utilities or transportation.

And as someone who has volunteer experience I can safely say I have not received ANY benifit from me wasting 2 years of my life volunteering. I could be played video games during that time and be in the same place I am in now.
>>321517
Because, I've volunteered before, it didn't reimburse me for my time or hard work, and I don't see the point in giving my talents or services away for free again .It feels like I am being stolen form

>>321532
benefit*

>>321510
Then they're screwed because they're of no use to anybody.

>>321532
No volunteering is a huge help. Read about how you're much more likely to find work. The people who put in the effort get the jobs.
If you're too fucking lazy to put in the effort then you deserve to get thrown out on the streets.

>>321530
>who cares?
Me.

>>321561
Good for you, I hope it keeps you awake at night.

>>320715
I don't even get why sensible people wanting reasonable debate even come to /pol/. If you want to discuss politics online in a reasonable way you don't go straight to stormfront. You come to /pol/ for right-wing nut-cases and immense amounts of butthurt.

I've applied for security jobs in my area. Seems they only want people with 5+ years experience.
For a guard position at the library. In Kansas.
Really? The worst I'd have to handle is the seldom homeless guy pooping next to the toilet.

Also, on farm labor, right now very few places are hiring since most of the harvests in the area have long since been done. I'd work on a farm again if I could (and if they'd hire me over cheaper Mexicans).

>>321560
>busting ass to network and send in applications and talk to managers and apply to everything I possibly can that I am applicable for.

>lazy

So apparently if I am not applying to be Super Technical Engieer positions and I am not Volunteering I am lazy right?

Tell me again how someone giving their talents away for FREE and not being reimbursed for it is going to get them a job?

Are you saying that if I were to volunteer for a a week, then apply they'd I'd get an interview, just because I am acting like a jackoff and giving away my talents for free?

>to get a job here you need experience!
>but how do i get the experience?
>fuck if i know. you need it to work here though.

The story of my life.

>>321531
Wait a second.

If you're black then why would you say that on /pol/ man!

I never mention it here. They just call me a jigaboo over and over again...

>>321456
>You can build skills outside of a job you faggot. Volenteer or something.

I volunteer teaching children basic literacy skills.

>>321531
Survival of the fittest. The free market decided those people deserved to be robbed - you're living the dream my friend.

>>321609
Dude, they don't understand. They are trying to convince you you are lazy because you don't qualify to be a nurse assistant. Arguing with these cats isn't going to get you a job. Don't even sweat it.

>>321613
>to get a job here you need experience
>but where do I get the experience
>I dunno go volunteer someplace similar
*one month of volunteering/shadowing later*
>to get a job here you need experience
>BUT I VOLUNTEERED
>But we meant experience in the field, you know, real experience, not wasting time.

>their face when

>>321613
Nepotism. Oh, don't have family members to give you experience? In that case you're lazy and deserve to die.

>>321613
Really? Because when I got my first job at a gas station age 15, they understood that I was inexperienced. They paid me very little and didn't give me a job that was complicated. Just pumping gas and washing windows.

>>321616
'Cause I don't give a shit what these people think. At the end of the day they don't know me and I don't know them.

>>321670
You get lucky.

I got my first at Fed Ex because everyone there quit in two days due to awful hours.

Those who didn't quit were fired.

I worked there for a month. Some job experience is pretty cool.

>>321670
See, thats the thing thought, I was easily able to get work when I was 15/16/17 and I always had a job till now.

Sure some of that was pre-crash but still.

Now its like, oh, you've had a job since you were 15 up till now, but you haven't had a job in a year.
Yeah you need more experience. Sorry those 4-5 years don't count suddenly

>>321430
IT TAKES MONEY TO MAKE MONEY
Go piss on your dead parents' grave after they are dead for not giving you an honest chance to move on.

>>321616
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>>321668
What the fuck? No I don't have family members to give me experience. What kind of question is that?
>>321670
Getting hired at a gas station? All the gas stations are owned by Arabics and they don't hire outside of their family. At least that's how it is over here.

>>321609
No when you send in your application the employer will see that you're making an effort to get out of the house and do something with your time, you'll gain good new references and they'll be able to see that you can still hold something down.
All of these things will give you an edge over other applicants.
There is no excuse not to gain that edge other than being a lazy fuck.

>enroll in community college
>take out loan
>buy cocaine or make your own
>flip that shit
>become big time
>rinse repeat
>when you are content, get out of the drug game and start doing floral decorations
>???
>PROFIT

I just wish the service industry (at least where I live) would hire more than just women.

Plenty of service jobs opening from those gals quitting, but all they'll hire is the same women.

>>321754
I'll gain references by applying? So that gas station I've sent about 34 applications to for every position they've had become available in the past month. I can use that as a reference.

Or are you talking about volunteer work, because with the work I HAVE done, I busted ass and I didn't get a reference out ofi t

>>321622
volunteer as something that isn't redundant. The kids'll pick that shit up anyway unless they're retarded in which case you're wasting your time.

>>321780
Don't send applications. Dress smart and walk in.

>>321785
Read the thread, I have been AND applying and calling people

3 interviews in the past year.

I just hope the latest temp agency I went to can find something because applying, walking in to places personally and calling and emailing does NOT get you a job.

>>321783
Way to miss the joke.

>>321780
No you apply for a real job while you're volunteering.
Are you fucking stupid? No wonder people won't hire you.
When you send in your application the employer of an actual job will see that you're making an effort to get out of the house by volunteering and do something with your time, you'll gain good new references from them and they'll be able to see that you can still hold something down.
All of these things will give you an edge over other applicants.
There is no excuse not to gain that edge other than being a lazy fuck.

>>321819

You understood what I meant, my shitty grammar served it's function.

>>321851
So let me understand this correctly, by giving my skills away for free it shows employers that I am getting out of the house (which is apparently important for some reason) and I will make references (even though I didn't after busting ass for 2 years prior volunteering) and apparently it shows that you can hold a positions when its nearly impossible to be "fired" from volunteering.

But lets say that the reason that we have 14 million people unemployed is because they do not volunteer and I bet you 9/10 that if I were to apply to volunteer somewhere I'd be shut down, but lets say that I do volunteer for a month and apply to every place I've applied to before and the new job posts with that volunteer experience listed. But as it more than likely will happen I wont get any interviews.

Then what.

Because what you are saying sounds similar to what my parents/teachers/coaches said "If you go to college, you WILL get a job"

>mfw people who say "just get a job"
>mfw they don't understand the economics of the recession

There aren't many jobs available because there isn't the differed consumption to sustain production and investment that results in high employment levels.

>>321851
Look sir, I don't know where the fuck you live at. Maybe it's Volunteer And Get A Jobland but that's bullshit. I'm not saying that won't work, but chances are if the nigga with a year experience working somewhere REAL applies, HE will get the job over some unskilled college student. Not saying to be complacent and not try, but you can try hitting the lotto at the same time and see which happens first. Times are just hard. The early bird gets the worm. Point blank period. Oftentimes getting a job is a matter of perfect timing, rather than whatever the fuck these people are saying. And even moreso, it's who you know, not what you know.

>>321907

See this >>321753

It's just because of laziness.

>>321906
Listen bro, you're obviously so set in the mindset of not being able to get a job that you won't get one.
We try to give advice and you throw it back in our faces.
Why don't you chill out and join a drum circle for a while.

>>321930
THIS

>>321700
No.

Not again.

;_;

>>321930
fuck you man I have some anecdotal evidence about how a guy I know worked really hard and found a job, so it completely discredits your graph!

>>321967
No it doesn't it supports it.

>>321934
Because those fuck faces aren't even trying to get jobs AND you have not given solid evidence of what you suggest is working

The worst kind of advice is that "just trust me" advice. Its why we have so much college debt and so many underemployed or unemployed colleged grads. Unless you can solidify it working, it sounds like a terribly idea

I hate the fact that regardless of my efforts I am still categorized with those fuckfaces

>>321973
you are right and I am an idiot.

>>321753
Gotta give Clinton credit, his policies really cut laziness.

>>321967
I too have an anecdote about a guy who worked really hard and got a job. The graph should be amended to reflect this.

There's a WHOLE LOTTA MAD in this thread from err'body

Why can't we all just go live in the woods?

There aren't many jobs here because you liberal scumbags voted in politicians that create legislation that makes labor here UNCOMPETITIVE with the rest of the world. Essentially, you are driving businesses and jobs away. You ARE the cancer. Now you complain about jobs when you are the retards that drove them away. Fuck you.

>>321979
How about try them yourself.
What do you have to lose.

And yes you are a fuckface and yes you'll probably just come out with another lame excuse.

>>322032
> why won't your liberals just suck it up and work in unsafe working conditions and get paid 10 cents an hour!

>>322048
The only thing left I have to lose if my dignity. That if this doesn't work, which it probably won't, that what else is there? I've volunteered, worked, I have references and this new hypothetical volunteering and nothing to show for it. I've had friends quit jobs and get new ones in the year and some that I've been dealing with this crap

>>322088
It's not a mystical thing.
You're just more likely to get work while already in work. I thought that was common knowledge.
If you don't have a job then volunteering is a substitute. A poor substitute but better than nothing at all. If you don't believe me research it yourself instead of browsing 4chan, I'm not here to get you a fucking job.

>>321979

Going out and not being lazy worked for me in '97 and there's no reason it won't work now. Shut the hell up and get your fat fucking ass out and get a job.

All you need is some gumption, a $400 suit with $160 shoes and a watch and you're good to go.

>>322139
>all you need to do is go out and get a job
>been "going out and looking for work for a year now, can't even get hired as a janitor or as a farm hand"

>>322178
Then you're not trying hard enough and don't say you are because if you were you'd have a job.

>>322191
Define hard enough

>>322191
I sure do love blanket statements!

>>321753

>>322201
Try to the point where you get a job.
That is about the right level of 'hard enough'

If you don't have a job try harder to get one until you do, it's fairly simple.

>>322178

>can't get a McJob
>baws about it on 4chan

Get a rake and go around and rake up leaves for cash. When it snows shovel snow out of drive-ways. A little hard work will never kill you. Have you ever considered doing light housework for the elderly? You shouldn't be too good to scrub a shitty bathroom after an old lady missed the toilet.

>>322247
I've put up ads for it on craigslist AND I have gone door to door already.

Got a bunch of no's. Did snow removal last year, out of the 300 houses we went to only 5 of them agreed.

>>322247
You do realize that you're attempting to oversimplify the issue? He's an adult, and you serious expect him to survive via miscellaneous odd jobs?

>>322279
BOOTSTRAPS

>>322307
This, I have 5 years of work experience, and that isn't helping me get a job now. So lets say that I get LUCKY and get a job like that removing snow and shit. That wont help get a real job in the future

>>322279

An adult does what ever the fuck is necessary to get by. If he has to suck dicks to feed himself then he should stop being a lazy bitch and get sucking.

>get certified in a trade
>move across country
>start at $30 an hour+benefits+double time on weekends
>45 hours a week+occasional weekend work

Dont take a arts degree next time you hipster cunts
>mfw

This thread reads like an Onion satire on modern day republicans. It's hard to tell who's joking and who isn't.

>>322337
No one in this thread has said anything about art degree.

But guess what, just because you are handymanish enough to learn a trade doesn't mean everyone is.

Thats the same idea as " everyone could become an engineer they just choose not to"

>>322328
>this is what children really believe

I honestly don't know whether you're trolling because it's a very ignorant, extremist stance you're taking. "hurrrr, suck dick for money." Miscellaneous jobs will not sustain the most minimalist lifestyle. By your logic, you would be okay with him coming to your house and robbing you and your parents just because "an adult does whatever the fuck is necessary to get by."

be less edgy

I'm unemployed but I'm able to make ends meet by doing odd yard jobs for people. Do I count as employed?

>move to north dakota
>move to saskathewan
>move to alberta

OIL MONEY

>>322377
well if you not bothered about getting a job or not why not place all your remaining pennies into the fucking lottery and hope you get lucky or why not just carry on sponging of the government and acting like a little shit on the internet.

>>322545
THIS

If people don't win the lottery then they're just not trying hard enough.
Lazy fuckers.

minimum wage won't keep a roof over your head with electricity and water and phone. You know..the basic standards of living...unless I suppose you can somehow swing by crowded in a one bedroom one bathroom with 3 other dudes.

At least down here in Miami that's how it is. Even as things were booming I was seeing that the service sector was continuing to expand while the production side of things were shrinking or moving away. What we have here is a systemic problem of too many people willing to slit other's throats for any given job leading to horrible wages for some shitty labor work. Now that I'm on the verge of completing my degree in engineering I can only wonder if those bottom rungs will get any better or more dignified. I've been unemployed for a while now but I have been able to get by...yes I'm a sponge to my parents but I do feel pretty bad every time I ask for money to eat or for gas to go to school.

But yeah..basically what you see here is what happens when people are willing to devalue themselves just for the money and employers have been promoting this sort of working culture for a long while...hell I remember seeing a memo that my last employer had that described the recession and the loss of people from other jobs as "an expanding talent pool" and alluded to being able to get people in for less than the job was worth.

So yeah...OH! one more thing..that stop censorship bar up there is part of another issue with the larger monolithic brotherhood of corporations trying to squeeze out any form of competition from small businesses that the internet is fueling and fostering. Enjoy your corporate slavery in 10 years.

>>>>321075
>No. People should be paid what they're worth. Wages are a private contract between employer and employee. Period, end of discussion.

>implying virtually all of our wages haven't been held hostage by the threat of outsourcing for thirty years and thus remained stagnant and/or falling due to inflation you fucking retard.

Seriously, how has no one pointed this out?

>>322594
Nailed it.

>>322594
>he doesn't keep two minimum wage jobs or shares the bills with a roommate.

Seriously when my roommate left our apartment I got myself a night job in additon to my day job (which ctually wasn't hard to do by the way) I work 16 hours a day to keep my standard of living and it sickens me when people expect handouts or complain.

>>322601
I tried to here >>322594

I would like to add that somewhere along the line, and I'm not sure where, we have gone from considering employment as selling our time, skills, and services to the employer...to a consideration of employment as the employer BUYING our time, skills, or services. This might sound like the same thing...and in all semantics it is..but really it's not. Instead of the worker and the employer coming to terms on a price for the employee's time/skills we have become a culture where the employer makes the prices and the market for these jobs have lost their input from those that perform the jobs creating a one-sided market force for wages.

>>322545
>well if you not bothered about getting a job or not
It's not about not being bothered to find employment, he already said he had been looking to no avail. You said:
>>>322191
>Then you're not trying hard enough

And then replied with even more asinine statements to follow. It doesn't matter how "hard" you try (which is a very subjective term) if no one is looking to hire you. The fact that you don't understand this and resort to telling people to live of misc. jobs, prostitution and/or lottery tickets just proves your immaturity.

>>322645
It sickens me when uncle toms bitch about the miserable hell they've made for themselves and then say that EVERYONE should do it, or they're not real people. Slavery is for slaves, sucker. Enjoy your sickness.

>>322689
>uncle toms
Your use of "uncle tom" confuses me.

>>322661
Somebody is always looking to hire somebody.
If you don't stcik out from the crowd it's your own fault.
Subjective or not, you'll know when you've tried hard enough because you'll get a job for your effort, if you don't have a job you need to put in more effort than you have previously been doing. It's that simple and yet you faggots are trying to convince yourselves that it's the hardest thing in the world.

>>322645
>I work 16 hours a day to keep my standard of living and it sickens me when people expect handouts or complain.

You must consider that not too long ago a person was able to sustain a non-working adult and up to 3 children in a private household with electricity, water, and phone service with some money left over for a few luxuries like furniture and a TV or two....
And they worked 8 hours a day. Not long ago you could live by yourself on the salary of a gas-station attendant.

Why do you not see what has happened to you? Why do you not see that you and all that are like you have been put into economic slavery?

>>322707
I'm sure a lot of things confuse you.

>>322716

Thats price inflation.

>>322716
Yeah but I can't now and there is nothing I can do about it except work hard to get that standard of living.

>>322689
It's not a miserable hell. Sure hard work is tough but it gives me the money and the means to live a decent life. Sorry if that pisses you off bro, and yeah if people want a good quality of life they have to work for it these days.

>>322721
You wouldn't be wrong because I'm certainly not a know-it-all asshole like yourself.

I actually had a friend who was doing a start up flower decoration business and it wasn't just some magical fairy land with flowers growing on trees. It involved him driving twice a week 4 hours down to a flow growing and supply company and purchasing the materials in bulk to make bouquets. Surprisingly people want pretty and rare flowers to use for decorations and despite what you think you can't just pick those yellow assholes growing in your backyard and watch the idiots line up to hand you their money. So a large portion of your money is spent buying these rare flowers that customers want for bouquets. Then after you buy all this crap you spend hours meticulously arranging it all day in giant displays containing hundreds of flowers so you can put it on display. Oh and I hope you have business coming in quick because everything is going to wilt after 3-5 days on display and after a week all those flowers will be completely not fit for sale.

Bottom line you will spend hundreds of dollars on flowers alone each week in hopes that someone buys this stupid shit before it wilts. I hope that guy who said "just start a flower decoration company" gets run over by a gardening truck.

>>322739
>inflation
THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT YOU RETARD

WAGES ARE SHIT, ACROSS THE BOARD

THEY HAVE NOT KEPT UP WITH PRICES

FUCK YOU ARE DUMB

>>322783
>he doesn't use paper flowers as a display

Your friend is a fucking retard. No seriously.

>>322739
But the wages haven't followed and at this point I just see that we're living in a second coming of the "company store" model that my grandparents would tell me about. If you don't know what that is, it was a situation where you would work for a company and they would pay you..and they also owned the local grocery/goods store..possibly the only one in town. Long story short, you could open credit with this store and get your goods but your wages would NEVER catch up and you would NEVER pay it off, leaving you to be constantly in debt to the very job you worked.

>>322740
>Yeah but I can't now and there is nothing I can do about it except work hard to get that standard of living.
Indeed...but given the economic climate we could be on the verge of a second economic revolution to bring that sort of thing back. People don't seem to want to admit this here in the U.S. but our capitalist system is intertwined with our government in ways that are not beneficial to the citizen....they also don't want to admit that this seems to be the cycle of our society...where we let our guards down and the machine of commerce slowly makes slaves of us once more. I'm not saying communism as it's been shown works either...but I am saying that our system is sick to the core and apparently requires a chemo dose every so often.

Just remember this, please everybody. It wasn't the "lazy" that got laid off that were dragging down the economy..it was by your definitions the hard working and ambitious who made these fraudulent deals (lol mortgage backed securities) in the pursuit of more money that caused this.

>>322813
You still have to store your flowers at your place of business in a fridge jackass thats where the bulk of your supplies are with several bouquets that probably won't be sold on display. The flowers in the fridge still wilt after a week and look like shit if you try to use them in bouquets after that point.

>>322828
>it was by your definitions the hard working and ambitious who made these fraudulent deals (lol mortgage backed securities) in the pursuit of more money that caused this.

and it was their right to, because they worked hard to get into those positions. Fuck the common person, they're too lazy to even fix this shitty situation.

>>322869
Don't overstock then faggot, get your flowers to order. You really are a dumbass

>>322869
Oh and I guess thats another thing you will need for your flower decoration start up costs. Several large storage fridges large enough to store hundreds of flowers you will hold each week for selling in.
Have fun saving up thousands of dollars for your first week in the very in demand market of selling flowers guys!

>>322906
see
>>322880

no need for fridges.
Well done throwing money away for no raisen.

>>320906

>I love this fucker here. Because I'm willing to bust my fucking ass to do what I have to to survive while this motherfucker sits in a drum circle complaining about "The Man", I'm somehow the asshole.

And I love this fucker here.

That's right, keep BUSTIN' your arse to survive. Jesus Christ you people are fucking stupid.

Gee, do you think maybe if the governing bodies which rule stopped fucking you for a second you'd be able to relax a bit and not have to work seven days a week?

The worst part is, you're getting fucked over worse than most people. YOU are the slave Liberals speak of. YOU are a the sheep who will work until he's dead, just because you're too damn arrogant and proud to think any other way.

Damn it /pol/ you really rustles my jimmies.

>>322880
If you are getting your flowers to order you are pretty much buying flowers from a flower decoration company. Thats like me saying "Wow I like selling hamburgers but hate having to buy and store all the parts to assemble them in bulk to turn a profit." I know I'll just buy them from mcdonalds when my customers order them and let them do all the storage preparation and handling of what I need. Fuck this is good business planning right here I'll just resell mcdonald hamburgers to people to make a living.

>>322870
>and it was their right to, because they worked hard to get into those positions. Fuck the common person, they're too lazy to even fix this shitty situation.

You seem to have missed the word fraudulent. Many of the things that were done were illegal in various forms constituting violations against regulations. Also..there seems to be a quick dismissal of the bailout that happened afterwards. Did you forget that part? Where they plunged a world economy into the toilet and were rewarded for doing so?

At a certain point we have to start holding these people accountable. No..they are not public officials like elected leaders but they are in positions of incredible economic power. Economic power trumps all other power you can wield over a person or a society.

Which brings me to an off-topic point..all these little fringe groups or minority groups that cry about their rights being stomped need to just express themselves as a large economic force...not too large now or else you end up hated like the jews or whites.

>>322963
Not really. there is no difference between ordering in your flowers to store and ordering in your flowers to do up and send off.
Unless you like to do single bouquets at a time to sell instead of a mass of them large functions. but if you did that you'd be stupid.

>>322997
>bringing jews into it

You just lost all credibility but I shouldn't have expected much more from /pol/

>>322948
DID SOMEONE SAY DIMMIES?!?!?!?

>>322925
Holy crap I'm done it's like no one on this board has any practical experience in the real world doing anything and just like to complain about shit they don't know anything about.

If you don't store the flowers in a fridge they will wilt that very same day and you will be tossing them out the next morning. Starting a flower business costs money guys you can't just go out one day buy some flowers from a guy running a flower decoration business in the same town as you then turn them around and sell them for more than he does to save costs on storage. If you did that everyone can just go to the faggot next door to you selling the exact same shit for cheaper prices because he handled logistics and storage of these flowers better than you and can sell at a lower rate. And guess what that motherfucker probably had the funds for start up costs to sell flowers better than you and drive you out of business being better at what he does.

>>323037
>he doesn't put the flowers in a vase with water

Do you just gas the flowers when they come to you? Your business sounds like a flower holocaust.

No one on this board knows jack shit about flowers and probably by extension jack shit about the real world.
Have fun arguing over your stupid uninformed opinions wage peasants.

>Well groomed, well dressed. Got fired from job two days ago, have an interview tomorrow.

What are you guys doing wrong? If there really are no jobs in your area, then move.

>>323018
Tried to use the widespread hatred towards those groups as a means to show that if your economic power as a group is disproportionate to your size you may acquire undue hatred and mal-intent.

But I guess that flew right over your head? I was going to use the economic rise of teenagers in the 50's and what that has meant for culture and products overall to this day...but seeing as teenagers (at least white middle class) were never really oppressed (in the U.S.) I didn't think it would make much of a point...and the hatred towards teenagers as an economic force is only by old crotchety people going "damn kids have no tastes in ____" or people who suck at their jobs getting managed by those a generation younger than them. I notice you also didn't mention me bringing up whites as a group that is also despised for their economic force in proportion to their size....but that's another matter entirely.

I'm not into white guilt or anything...I just know that the color of my skin and the economic standing of my racial group tends to make me somewhat hated by those of darker shades in groups with wide-spread lower standings.

Essentially we always blame those that have more than us for no real reason and keep ourselves divided when there are ACTUAL targets and actual singular people that are the cause of the woes of millions.

>>323110
You need money to do that.
If you don't have a job, where does the money come from?