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    96 KB Obama endorses same-sex marriage Pollfag !!P+HaC0oezMo 05/09/12(Wed)15:04 No.3050663 sticky  
    Breaking on the news channels
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:07 No.3050705
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    Flip Flopper !!!!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:08 No.3050727
    Breaking, Mitt Romney also now endorses gay marriage.

    Nah, nigga ain't gonna flip flop that extreme
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:09 No.3050741
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    >implying I'm not voting for Mitt Romney now
    >> The Slavic Caligula !O.N1d/WL9c 05/09/12(Wed)15:10 No.3050752
    Now Obomney is out in full force. Either way, it looks the same politically with different skin colors and skill sets.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:10 No.3050753
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    awwww shit nigga, this election has gotten more intresting, the right extremists will now rally around romney and the left around obama...this will truly be a fun november.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:11 No.3050764
    So what's the word with the Log Cabin Repubs
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:11 No.3050767
    >right before an election
    What a fucking surprise.
    As a homo, I'm pretty annoyed now, this is pathetic politicizing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:11 No.3050768
    Obama & the Attack of the Niggers
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fxUvbHzoo
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:11 No.3050773
    Why is this a sticky?

    Is anyone actually surprised by this?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:12 No.3050787
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    >> SouthDakotan !!o1lpCoutiyZ 05/09/12(Wed)15:12 No.3050791
    How is this surprising? A politician says what they must to get elected. In courting christians, Obama said he was against gay marriage.

    The Republican party had best steel itself, for it is slowly becoming the full-on party of hate and bigotry.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:13 No.3050802
    Is this a surprise? Obama will endorse anything and anybody who aren't white heterosexual middle class males to get votes.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:13 No.3050803
    >implying he would do anything about it if he won
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:13 No.3050805
    But...

    But...

    He promised to legalize gay marriage last election cycle, too.

    He's not lying this time. Right guys?

    Right...?

    Right....?
    >> Mittens !!gVL0FyzPeMv 05/09/12(Wed)15:13 No.3050807
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    YES! Dat evangelical vote.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:14 No.3050827
    >>3050805
    Why do you care?

    Unless you are gay.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:14 No.3050832
    So is he an atheist now?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:14 No.3050833
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    >>3050807
    >Evangelicals voting for mormons
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050838
    Welp, looks like I'm voting for Romney now.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050841
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    >Obama endorses same-sex marriage

    I'm shocked
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050845
    >would have rather had the token black guy instead of equal rights liberal

    pushing gay marriage is the smartest move obama has made so far. it'll further solidify the democrats/liberals/progressives as the party of the future while making future republicans look like unelectable dinosaurs.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050847
    >>3050827
    Because I voted for him and expect rights for everyone
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050848
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    >muh dik
    >> Mittens !!gVL0FyzPeMv 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050851
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    >>3050833

    >Evangelicals voting for faggot-lovers
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050852
    >>3050827

    I don't care. My post is facetious. He's promised to do it before and he never did it. Why should faggots expect things to be different this time? As the faganon said, he's just politicizing equal rights.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050853
    >>3050833
    Over a democrat, yes.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:15 No.3050854
    >>3050805

    No he didn't, last time he supported civil unions at the state level. And he's not this time. He thinks it should be legal, but is a matter for the states.

    At least get pissed at him for positions he actually holds.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:16 No.3050862
    You know why Obama sucks?

    He revealed this in an interview. He should have come out in support of it in a speech or in a press conference.

    Saying something is diminished by the fact that he did so in a highly controlled, highly private environment.

    He is still a bitch.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:16 No.3050866
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    >sticky
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:16 No.3050876
    Great, he doesn't understand the separation of church and state either.

    >Creationism shouldn't be imposed on public schools
    >Gay marriage shouldn't be imposed on churches

    Pick one, faggots.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:16 No.3050878
    at least this is causing a distraction from the downturn in jobs.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:16 No.3050879
    Cool. More distractions.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050884
    Can he flip flop on cannabis legalization next, it better fucking happen soon
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050885
    >>3050851
    Their heads will explode. Whoever they vote, they are losing at the eyes of God.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050890
    BUT MUH SANCTITY
    MUH RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
    MUH BIBLE
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050895
    Gay man in supporting gay marriage shocker.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050896
    >>3050854

    But Civil Unions are the only things that the government can force society to accept--forcing fag marriage on churches would be a violation of the first amendment. It's excessive government entanglement with religion, as defined by the Lemon test.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050899
    >>3050852

    If Romney and the Republicans endorsed it too, it wouldn't be political.

    It's not 'politicising' it when there are two legitimately different points of view. It's already political you moron.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050900
    Not surprising at all and not worthy of a sticky.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050902
    You guys do realize that same sex marriage pols roughly 50/50 right? And that the demographic that is predominantly for it is the youth demo, which are generally inconsistent about voting turn out unlike the older demo, which is more biased against, right? This isn't a guaranteed win in campaigning.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050905
    >>3050876

    The government can't force churches to do anything.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:17 No.3050909
    He also said he supported marijuana decriminalization. Gotta love political posturing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:18 No.3050916
    >>3050876
    Pretty sure churches aren't the only places to get married

    Would be great to see religions lose their tax free standing for refusing to marry gays though
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:18 No.3050919
    Gay people are taxpayers too, so they deserve the same rights.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:18 No.3050923
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    I wonder how black people feel about this.

    They love Obama but hate gays because of muh sanctity of marriage and muh christian values

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB7Xo-zJ30o
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:19 No.3050924
    >>3050896

    Who said anything about forcing churches to do anything?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:19 No.3050928
    LOL
    wow he just just gave up a huge portion of the black vote for the faggot vote
    could he be making this any easier for Romney?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:19 No.3050933
    >implying the Vice president didn't have a political "gaffe" on purpose right before the NC Amendment 1 vote.

    >implying they didn't wait to see how it played out

    >implying Obama won't carry the retards who still think hope and change is viable and ignore how he's just like Bush anyway

    Good Lord, it's like none of you have ever seen politics before.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:19 No.3050936
    ...so? It's not like he's going to sign anything. Why doesn't he do something good and take our troops out of the middle east or free Bradley Manning?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:19 No.3050940
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    I love how everyone shits on romney for being an etch a sketch, when obama has done a 360 on every goddamn issue he's ever talked about. They are both garbage
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:20 No.3050948
    >>3050902
    >>3050902
    >generally inconsistent

    Makes you think about who we vote for though

    Maybe not voting for the same people over and over again is sending message, all while old people vote for the same people
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:20 No.3050949
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    >>3050916
    >Would be great to see religions lose their tax free standing
    Of course a lib would say this
    MOAR TAXES PLZ
    >> lol i trol u !!8m+H51rfpNO 05/09/12(Wed)15:20 No.3050951
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    Hey, if gay marriages are legalized but churches retain the right to not recognize or perform them, I find that a happy compromise.

    Also who wants to bet he'll do as much about gay marriage as Bush did about abortion?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:20 No.3050954
    >>3050899

    Republicans aren't going to be making this an issue. They've got enough ammunition to use against him.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:21 No.3050961
    >>3050909
    He said he was for decriminalizing in that he didn't think you should go to jail, but is not for the legalization. He's suggested he's for fines and a rehabilitation program.

    I wondering if /pol/ doesn't really follow this stuff all that closely.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:21 No.3050962
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    >implying Romney is going to get the nomination
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:21 No.3050965
    >>3050954
    lel dat brainwashed republitard
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:21 No.3050967
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    >Obama talks about gay marraige
    >economy still in the shitter
    >Obama/libs deflecting attention from shit economy to something that really isnt that important
    >economy still in the shitter
    >no one cares about the fags except the fags come election time
    >Romney wins as economy is ass cheddar, libs still hung up on gay rights

    >rfw
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:21 No.3050973
    >>3050951
    >Hey, if gay marriages are legalized but churches retain the right to not recognize or perform them, I find that a happy compromise.

    Well yeah, that's the goal
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:22 No.3050982
    >>3050962
    lol you're funny
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:22 No.3050984
    >>3050923
    >>3050928
    Not just the black vote, but Hispanic and probably Asian

    Whites, especially youth, will eat this up

    Surprisingly, there are a lot of non-whites on the down low, just anti-gay because of machismo
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:22 No.3050993
    Why the fuck do religious people think they should be allowed to ban gay marriages?

    Since when was marriage a religious thing?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:23 No.3050996
    >>3050967

    lol dat brainwashed republitard
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:23 No.3051006
    >>3050973
    I am not aware of any gay marriage proposal that would force churches to perform them.
    That would be pretty blatantly unconstitutional.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:23 No.3051014
    >>3050996
    >republitard

    go back to the dailyKOS you faggot
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:24 No.3051016
    I'll respect him when he admits he's gay.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:24 No.3051019
    >>3050961
    He also told the justice department not to enforce DOMA.

    Drug arrests are up.

    He very clearly lied about his position on cannabis.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:24 No.3051020
    >>3050967
    Yeah, even though the economy is the number one worry of Americans, only Romney talks about it, at least the only Repub given air time
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:24 No.3051024
    Anybody who gives a shit about gay marriage is either a faggot or a retarded fundamentalist. Nobody else should give a shit about gay marriage except actual gay people, and the mentally handicapped.
    >> The Slavic Caligula !O.N1d/WL9c 05/09/12(Wed)15:24 No.3051026
    >>3050878
    And the Greek two year bonds yielding 425% the stock market being down 0.5% today in a six day losing streak.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:24 No.3051029
    >>3050993
    Not all religious people are against marriage, its just that evangelicals are a majority in this country and get the most media coverage.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:24 No.3051032
    >>3050993
    >Since when was marriage a religious thing?
    Since faggots started wanting to force churches to marry them
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:25 No.3051035
    WOW THIS IS SO IMPORTANT

    He supported it before he didn't support it before he supported it again before not supporting it before supporting it again.

    Election year stance.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:25 No.3051037
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    Why do gays demand their union be called a marriage? Thats something i dont understand doesn't a civil union get them the same rights and privileges?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:25 No.3051038
    >>3050928

    Because as we all know, blacks are highly volatile voters that can swing towards white Republicans!

    Obama lost 0.1% of ~90% of the black vote. They'll still vote for Obama en mass.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:25 No.3051041
    >>3050805
    >>He promised to legalize gay marriage last election cycle, too.

    No he didn't.

    He'd always previously held the same view of every populist politician. Against gay marriage, for civil unions.

    Now, I'd like to say this was smart given the election is coming up, but to be honest... this shit is fucking baffling.

    He's trying to court the black and hispanic vote. Those two groups are more against gay marriage than any others in the country.

    He NEED North Carolina, and North Carolina JUST passed a ban on gay marriage.

    I want to say Obama was always for gay marriage, but Biden just kind of forced him to come out with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:25 No.3051044
    >>3050791
    Um, Nope.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:26 No.3051055
    Obama could come out gay and black people would still vote for him.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:26 No.3051063
    >>3051037
    No

    I think marriages get more tax breaks or whatever

    Not to mention civil unions aren't recognized in a majority of states
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:26 No.3051065
    Good for him. I better not see any federal interference with North Carolina's Amendment 1 as it is protected under the 10th amendment to the US constitution.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:27 No.3051066
    >>3050962
    He clearly is you fucking moron.
    >> sage 05/09/12(Wed)15:27 No.3051075
    i don't get it, what's the incense-pun about?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:27 No.3051077
    >>3050973
    But then, every time a church refuses to marry a gay couple they'll suffer political and social pressure. They'll be protested, scorned on gay blogs and left-leaning newspapers, and their attendance will drop.

    I mean shit, they're already forcing religious people to pay for abortions.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:27 No.3051082
    >>3051066
    you're the fucking moron here
    >> lol i trol u !!8m+H51rfpNO 05/09/12(Wed)15:28 No.3051088
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    >>3051077
    >implying the left doesn't do that anyway

    Not worried
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:28 No.3051093
    >>3051041

    >this shit is fucking baffling

    The word you're looking for is desperate. He knows he can't run on his record so he has to try and take a stance he know the republicans won't.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:28 No.3051097
    >>3051063

    Then why aren't they fighting for that instead of marriage? Christian fags will go balls deep to protect marriage, but if it was just another name gays probably would've gotten away with it a long time ago.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:29 No.3051101
    >>3050924

    Well, look at the history of marriage. It's a social contract which originated in churches, and was then carried over to lawful governments during a time when the two intermixed frequently. Since they don't intermix now (or shouldn't), it's only fair to make Civil Unions the only viable alternative for faggots to unionize.

    I understand the desire for equal rights, I really do, but why in the hell should everybody be allowed to marry? Marriage isn't a right. It's a privilege afforded to members of churches. If a government wants to provide equal rights, then the Federal Government needs to step in and under the Necessary and Proper Clause, say they are promoting the general Welfare of the Union by supporting Liberty for all citizens and then recognize civil unions--not marriage.

    Leave marriage to the churches; civil unions to the state; civil unions for everybody.

    The classical liberal approach to gay rights is more grounded in common sense and more in line with the constitution than the neo-liberal spin which wants to /force/ churches to marry people, even if it goes against their religious beliefs. Just talk to a faggot. Much like you just have to talk to Sandra Fluke and other female liberals to see that they want religious institutions being forced to violate their principles to provide her birth control.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:29 No.3051103
    >>3051037
    Separate is never equal.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:29 No.3051107
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    >>3050767
    He's been working towards this for a year now. They stopped trying to defend the gay marriage bans because Obama didn't see how he could keep defending this baseless legislation. Over and over it was shown that because the Marriage laws were screwing Gay/Lesbian couples legally, it kept fucking up their families and they had no rights etc.

    Personally it's good to see, I hope that we can finally grow up as a society. I doubt this will change much of anything overall though, except galvanize Liberals to vote for him. As if we really needed any motivation though with that nutcase Mittens.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:29 No.3051108
    >mfw this interrupts Queen's Speech coverage on BBC News
    Is it really THAT important?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:29 No.3051113
    >>3050962

    >Implying Paul will get the nomination

    0/10
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:29 No.3051115
    >>3050993
    >Since when was marriage a religious thing?

    Marriage STARTED as a "religious thing." It only mutated into a predominantly legal arrangement within the past couple hundred years.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:29 No.3051116
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    >>3051032
    Strawman, no church can be forced to perform any marriage they don't want to, gay or not.
    Damn you people are fucking uninformed.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:29 No.3051117
    >>3050993
    Secular atheist here
    the ONLY reason gays want marriage rights is to have their life style be state endorsed
    It is an aberrant and deviant practice and if kept to the privacy of their own homes no one would give a fuck about it Americans are pretty tolerant like that
    but Gays don't want tolerance they want to force people to accept their lifestyles and the government to endorse them
    Marriage has been reward by societies because the nuclear family is the foundations of stable societies ( don't believe me? go to the ghetto where there is no nuclear family) a government endorsement of a deviant behavior legitimizes it

    and really when all is said and done people are overwhelmingly against gay marriages, the gays and their willing partners in the DNC wish to impose the will of a tiny minority on the overwhelming majority against their will
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:30 No.3051119
    >>3050919
    This

    and this >>3051103
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:31 No.3051136
    SHUT THE FUCK UP AND EXPLAIN OP IMAGE/

    my dog's life depends on it
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:31 No.3051137
    >>3051101
    Marriage is in fact a right, the supreme court said so in Loving v. Virginia.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:31 No.3051141
    THIS JUST IN! OBAMA ENDORSES CURES FOR CANCER!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:31 No.3051142
    >>3051093

    this is what brainwashed republitards actually believe
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:31 No.3051143
    >>3050919

    They may be tax payers but they aren't people.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:31 No.3051147
    >>3050996

    >man i hate repubs!
    >fuckin stupid all of them! and drones!
    >'lol dat brainwashed repubtard'

    Meanwhile...
    >believe race is a social construct
    >white guilt
    >product of white privilege
    >its all whiteys fault
    >'everyone is equal! yeah!'
    >deny economy is in the shitter
    >all bush's fault
    >its the greedy corporations and the banks!!
    >thats why i cant get a job!
    >Job at wendys?? PFFFTT... im too good for that!
    >believe people should pay you for what you like, as opposed to what helps people
    >go unions go unions!!
    >abortion is choice! it isnt murder!
    >hasnt seen a bucket full of third trimester aborted fetus parts
    (i have)
    >Che Guevara shirt

    I got all day
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:31 No.3051151
    OBAMA WANTS TO MAKE SCHOOLS TEACH YOUR KIDS TO BE GAY!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:32 No.3051168
    To all of those people arguing that marriage is a religious institution:

    What about the churches that are fine with gay marriage? Isn't it a violation of their religious freedom to tell them who is allowed to be married in spite of their religious views?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessing_of_same-sex_unions_in_Christian_churches
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:32 No.3051170
    >>3051143
    0/10

    apply yourself son
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:32 No.3051172
    OH BOY AND ITS ACTUALLY FUCKING WORKING ON THE FUCKING SHEEPLE
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z6B46O3bJU
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:32 No.3051174
    OBAMA WILL USE CHEMICALS TO MAKE ALL BABIES GAY
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:33 No.3051182
    >>3051141
    >THIS JUST IN! OBAMA ENDORSES CURES FOR CANCER!

    Romney and the Republicans have endorsed their support for cancer!

    Also, cancer is now polling >50% in red states.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:33 No.3051183
    >>3051174
    It's in the flouride maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaann
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:33 No.3051185
    >>3051170

    You're right, you're right they are 3/5s of a person.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:33 No.3051187
    >>3050919
    >Gay people are taxpayers too, so they deserve the same rights.

    they have the exact same rights as I do
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:33 No.3051193
    >>3051115
    So we should only view marriage as it was hundreds of years ago and not what it is right now?

    Religion, taking us back to the Dark Ages, again
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:34 No.3051201
    >>3051187
    they don't have the right to marry
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:34 No.3051204
    >>3051182

    I fucking hate elections.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:34 No.3051207
    >>3051187
    Serious?

    They still can't get married
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:34 No.3051208
    >>3051101
    >marriage isn't a right
    >hurr what is loving v. virginia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
    >Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival....

    It's been a recognized right since at least 1967.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:34 No.3051212
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:35 No.3051224
    >>3051041
    Obama is like a 4chan liberal. He thinks that because of the people he discusses politics with are with him everyone will be with him even though it's a small minority that care.

    He thinks the gay vote will outshine North Carolina as well as the black and hispanic votes.

    Not only that though he is trying to deflect any discussion about the economy since he blew it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:35 No.3051225
    >>3051187
    And if gay marriage were made legal, you would still have the exact same rights, since you would also be allowed to marry somebody you weren't sexually attracted to.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:35 No.3051226
    >>3051201

    Its a privileged just like driving a car. Why else do you think you need a license?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:36 No.3051237
    >>3051201
    >they don't have the right to marry

    yes they do
    just not same sex
    I don't have that right either
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:36 No.3051255
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:36 No.3051256
    >>3051212
    Where does it say you must be straight to be a Republican?
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:36 No.3051258
    >>3051226
    This:
    >>3051208
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:37 No.3051260
    >>3051226
    >doesn't know about loving v. virginia
    >fucking retard

    >>3051237
    If they were allowed to marry people of the same sex, so could you. Still equal rights.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:37 No.3051262
    The negro president supports men marrying men

    The founding fathers are rolling in their graves
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:37 No.3051263
    >>3051255
    i'm down. who do we get to invade? hope it's one of the stans.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:37 No.3051266
    >>3051212

    >Urban dictionary
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:37 No.3051269
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:37 No.3051276
    >>3051262
    He's black. They've been rolling for 4 years now.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:38 No.3051281
    >>3051260
    >If they were allowed to marry people of the same sex, so could you. Still equal rights.
    The point is that they have the same rights as straight people. They just want extra rights added on to what they already have.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:38 No.3051282
    >2012
    >implying i support anyone that would get married
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:38 No.3051287
    >"Obama in the past has said he is "evolving" on the matter"


    I'm not flip flopping guys, I'm evolving my position.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:39 No.3051297
    >>3051208
    >Expecting people to respect Loving v. Virginia
    >On /pol/

    Are you high? That was the worst court verdict in history. It completely threw out all pretense of intent in the constitution.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:39 No.3051298
    >>3051260
    you have not refuted the statement Anon made when he said gays have the same rights as him, you changed the argument therefore you are both a liberal and a fagot and a retard
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:39 No.3051302
    OBAMA ENDORSES KILLING ALL STRAIGHT PEOPLE
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:39 No.3051309
    >>3051276
    >>3051262

    The founding fathers wanted to include all men, black or etc. but they knew the bigot's wouldn't agree so they kicked that can down the road.
    >> David Cameron !!Pe8/IxcXVF4 05/09/12(Wed)15:39 No.3051311
    I honestly do not care. I'm not picky, I believe everyone should be allowed to have the freedom and liberty they deserve.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:39 No.3051312
    >>3051281
    But it wouldn't be any special rights for them, it would be an expansion of everybody's rights. And in most of the country, not having the label of 'marriage' means that they're not equal.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg

    In the majority of the USA, gays do not have equal rights.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:40 No.3051326
    >>3051311
    No-one cares what you think.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:40 No.3051333
    >>3051287
    lol

    I am evolving to hate all the stupid Obama supporters.

    He is a liar and a psychopath yet the self-hating White liberals worship him because he is a symbol of their hatred and rejection of their own race.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:40 No.3051335
    >>3051326
    I care...

    ;_;
    >> David Cameron !!Pe8/IxcXVF4 05/09/12(Wed)15:40 No.3051336
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    >>3051326
    Okay
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:40 No.3051337
    >>3051297
    At least don't try to pretend you're anything but a bigot trying to use the government to control other peoples' lives.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:40 No.3051340
    >>3051281
    >Loving v. Virginia again
    Marriage is a right, not specifically straight marriage...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:41 No.3051341
    Lol, who knew everyone here sucked so much Founding Shithead dick? If you accept their opinion and reasoning without question, you're everything wrong with America.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:41 No.3051344
    >>3051269
    Not approving of gay marriage doesn't make you a bigot.

    >asking what lead to a power of attorney
    >implying you have to answer
    >being a lawyer
    >not being able to find a snakey way around it even if such a law exists
    >> Anonymous ## Mod 05/09/12(Wed)15:41 No.3051351
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    >>3051041

    >Biden just kind of forced him to come out with it.
    >come out with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:41 No.3051352
    Private organizations cannot give people rights. Marriage is not a right, the state has no business in the ceremony of marriage.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:41 No.3051354
    >>3051312
    Gays are equal
    what they want is government endorsement of their deviant lifestyle and special treatment
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:41 No.3051355
    WHY DOES GOVERNMENT THINK THEY SHOULD GET INVOLVED IN A RELIGIOUS UNION?

    MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN BEFORE GOD.

    SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE; GET YOUR GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY RELIGION!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:42 No.3051359
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    Lugar got defeated too

    >http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/politics/lugar-parting-words/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
    :\

    Fuck we're going into a nutcase driven reality here. This is what we get though, our fucking generation is all like "Oh I don't care about politics, they're all stupid, it doesn't affect me~~~!" Bunch of useless pieces of shit.

    >Every political ad for the next 6 months will be along pic related lines
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:42 No.3051360
    >>3051352
    In the United States, marriage is a right.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:42 No.3051362
    >>3051351
    Was it really necessary to post this as a mod or are you just being an attention seeker?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:42 No.3051369
    >>3051312
    wahhhhh muh equal rights

    Give me 1 reason why I should support men marrying men, and no whining, calling me names and throwing out buzzwords like "equality" and "rights" are not going to convince me. I want an actual reason about how this will benefit me.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:42 No.3051374
    >>3051352
    HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO BE SAID!?
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    LOVING V. VIRGINIA
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:42 No.3051376
    Watching this Republican squirm as he asked about denying gay soldiers the right to marry is so great.
    >> David Cameron !!Pe8/IxcXVF4 05/09/12(Wed)15:43 No.3051383
    >>3051369
    It won't benefit you but are gays that much of a problem to you?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:43 No.3051387
    >>3051369
    >BUT WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEE
    Kill yourself.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:43 No.3051391
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    >>3051355
    >god
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:43 No.3051395
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    >>3051351

    Being a Mod on /pol/ must be easy as fuck. What do you even have to ban for? Outside of some stupid fuck posting CP, you ain't gotta do shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:44 No.3051403
    >>3051369
    you'll get more pussy, how bout that. Satisfied??
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:44 No.3051404
    >>3051354
    They're so equal that twenty states have banned both their marriage and civil unions, and only fifteen grant them equal rights to marriage. You could at least try looking at the facts first.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:44 No.3051408
    >>3051360
    Define "marriage"
    Define "right"

    I honestly don't care about any of that shit. Two men getting "married" to each other is so stupid that all the bitching and whining is not going to convince me that this will be anything good for me and anything other than destructive for the society I live in.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:44 No.3051410
    >>3051351
    This guy
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:44 No.3051412
    why of all things was this stickied?
    Mod must be a shit eating sodomite
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:44 No.3051413
    >2012
    >people still thinking same-sex marriage is a big deal

    No really, that's kind of fucking ridiculous. It's probably the most unimportant national "issue" I can think of right now.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:44 No.3051416
    THE WEST IS FALLING

    THE WEST IS FALLING
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:44 No.3051419
    >>3051408
    Define "america"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:45 No.3051422
    >>3051395

    They slate every East Aryan threads to page 5 and make sure Muh Dick threads stay on page 0.

    That's all they seem to do.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:45 No.3051425
    >>3051387
    Isn't that all the homos argument amounts to "wahhhhh give it to me you bigot!!!!"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:45 No.3051426
    >>3051354
    Jeez, for being so adamantly anti-gay, you Republicans sure do love sucking Rush Limbaugh's dick.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:45 No.3051429
    I'm kind of impressed.
    Sure, it's a political move, but it's a damn risky one. After all the states that have voted to ban same-sex marriage lately? Props to Obama.
    Other than that, I don't really care.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:45 No.3051430
    >>3051065

    Not if the Supreme Court realizes that civil rights are not to be voted upon.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:45 No.3051431
    >>3051369

    Give me one reason why you should take the right away from them. One reason, one sound logical reason that doesn't come from "eww icky" or "muh bible". Rights are not GRANTED, you must have a very good reason to start taking them away from people or else you will find yourself on the end of that stick later on down the road.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:45 No.3051432
    >>3051419
    North America, Central America, South America, and the Caribbean.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:45 No.3051440
    >>3051416
    The west is already down for the count bro.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:46 No.3051445
    >>3051383
    no gays don't bother anyone
    UNTIL they try to enforce their minority deviant lifestyle on an unwilling majority via legislation
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:46 No.3051452
    >>3051425
    Read:
    >>3051374
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:46 No.3051453
    >>3051369
    >throwing out buzzwords like "equality" and "rights"
    They're not buzzwords, they're guaranteed by the Constitution, which conservatives claim to love.

    Gay marriage should be made legal because the legal proceedings and ceremonies related to marriage would be a boost to the economy.

    Also using the government to tell other people that they can't do something just because somebody else doesn't like it is wrong, and a slippery slope.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:46 No.3051454
    >>3051431

    The US is a christian country, and people in it better live by the christian bible or get the fuck out
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:47 No.3051471
    >>3051445

    >people ban gay marriage
    >no one is being forced on
    >courts rule that the ban doesn't mesh with legality or the state constitution
    >omg so much forcing!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:48 No.3051475
    >>3051408
    >destructive for the society I live in.
    In what way is it destructive?

    As for your other questions, try reading Loving v. Virginia, or really any legal textbook.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:48 No.3051478
    >>3051431
    I don't believe in the concept of "rights." It seems like some quasi-mystical concept where people demand things or demand my support on an issue and then rather than telling me how it will benefit me to support it just say "muh right!" and then expect me to get down and obey them because of this mystical concept called "rights"

    It actually pretty ridiculous.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:48 No.3051485
    >>3051454
    Nah I'll stay here, if it is pleasing to you of course.
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    >>3051408

    It's not about marriage fucktard. It's about the legal ramifications of "shit hits the fan situations". If things go wrong they can't do anything legally because they aren't married.

    Personally I would fine if they removed marriage from laws all together and replaced with it Civil Unions for everyone but we all fucking know our Gov't can barely pass any bill, there is no way in fuck they can pass definition changes to the ~720 laws associated with Marriage.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:48 No.3051487
    I bet FUCKING NIGGERS DID THIS TO SABSTOGE THE WHITE FUCKING RACE AND I BET THE FUCKING JESWW WERE BEHIND HIM WHEN HE ENDORSED THIS SHIT FUCKING JEWS AND CHINKS "OH BIRRY RACEMIX BIRRY" "GOOD GOYIM RACEMIX OY VEY" "AY NIQQA FUK MEY WIEF NIQQA" FUCKING RACEMIXERS KILLING THE WHITE RACE I BET FUCKING CULTURAL MARXISTS DID THIS SHIT TO KILL US ALL OFF FUCKING MARXISTS WHAT HAPPENED TO WHITE GOD FEARING AMERICA WHY THE FUCK DON'T SMOKIN WHITE WOMEN LIKE ME WHY I BLAME JEWS!!!!!

    FUCKING MULTIKULTI
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:48 No.3051488
    >>3051454

    Then you better start repealing all our Amendments and replacing them with the Ten Commandments or stfu
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:49 No.3051504
    >2012
    >Believing that Obama suddenly "evolved" to support gay marriage.

    No. He's always supported gay marriage.

    He must have been shown incredibly solid proof that this is not going to hurt his reelection. If he didn't do it now, he was going to do it right after his win.

    Somewhere, Karl Rove is dancing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:49 No.3051505
    >>3051475
    lol

    I hate Loving v. Virginia is my single most reviled verdict in court history.

    Appealing to me by mentioning it is not going to help your cause.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:49 No.3051511
    >>3051478

    >I don't believe in the concept of "rights"

    Yeah, I'm sure you'll be telling the next cop who arrests you that exact sentence
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:50 No.3051514
    >>3051454
    The USA is not a Christian nation. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention God or Christianity, and the Treaty of Tripoli said quite clearly:
    >As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...
    Written and passed into law under the eyes of the founding fathers would make that pretty authoritative.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:50 No.3051517
    >>3051478

    Yeah, who cares about the whole concept of freedom. You know, that thing this country is based on.

    We should really try to stifle forms of freedom. It's nothing but bad for a country.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:50 No.3051523
    This is a tactical decision because of you look at the people who demographics, the people who hate obama because he's a nigger (Southerns and Religious blocs) also hate fags. So there's no reason to even bother courting them. Blacks hate fags too, but they don't have a choice other than to vote for Obama.

    This is just a clear plan to revitalize the youth vote since a majority of them believe in same sex marriage and to placate the gay bloc who have become increasingly pissed with Obama over doing nothing for them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:51 No.3051532
    >>3051504
    >No. He's always supported gay marriage.

    Obama doesn't support anything. He is a sociopath that takes whatever position he thinks will bring him the biggest political advantage. That is a big part of the reason why he has been such a successful politician. The other part is that he is Black and get all the non-White votes + all the self-hating White votes.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:51 No.3051533
    >>3051523

    Everyone knows this. You're not accomplishing anything by bringing this up.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:51 No.3051534
    >>3051505
    You don't get to dismiss supreme court precedent just because you disagree with it. That's the problem with you morons, a supreme court ruling is only "good" if you agree with it - if not, it's those damned liberal activist judges and needs to be thrown out.

    Fuck you, try saying something meaningful.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:51 No.3051535
    ITT: people surprised about Obama going after the independent vote
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:51 No.3051536
    How are faggots being oppressed???

    They can live anywhere, work anywhere and do what they like (sometimes public sex).

    Ooooooooohhhh, poor faggots gotta find something to cry about because life is too comfy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:51 No.3051537
    >>3051404
    and?
    gays want to inflict THEIR lifestyle choices on an unaccepting public, they want to redefine an institution to serve their abnormal behavior

    we as a nation tolerate aberrant life styles, which is not good enough they want their perverse behavior endorsed

    there is nothing that forming a corp and giving durable power of attorney to your "partner" would not grant same sex couples that "marriage" does
    but no that isn't what they want, they want the government to redefine the traditionally heterosexual institution of marriage to include them which begs the question why?

    because they are annoying faggots and this idiocy Obama has just done has guaranteed Republican wins for the next 50 years
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:52 No.3051547
    >>3051536
    stay mad brah
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:52 No.3051556
    Brb, watching "God Bless America."
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:53 No.3051558
    >>3051547
    I'm not mad, gays are mad. Life is sooooooo good for them, they just have to keep crying over something.

    This is reality. There IS NO gay oppression. It is a fallacy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:53 No.3051559
    >>3051208

    Loving v Virginia only applies to race though. Nice try.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:53 No.3051561
    >>3051534
    Why should I give a fuck about what a bunch of Jew lawyers in robes think?

    I form my own opinion not wait for Justice Steinfinkleberg to tell me what I should think.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:53 No.3051565
    >>3051556
    that movie was horrible
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:53 No.3051567
    Tell President Obama We Stand with Him in Support of Marriage Equality

    President Obama publicly announced his support for marriage equality.

    This is a historic moment in our fight for marriage equality. We’re getting closer.

    We know that President Obama is going to come under attack from some members of the far right. Join Kirsten in telling President Obama that we stand with him.
    http://www.change.org/petitions/democratic-national-convention-committee-move-the-national-conventio
    n-out-of-north-carolina

    Over 15,000 people have already signed an online petition asking the Democratic National Convention Committee to "MOVE its convention to a state that upholds values of equality & liberty, and which treats ALL citizens equally."

    This should change Obama's ambiguous same-sex marriage calculus considerably. As Talking Points Memo's Kyle Leighton has explained, until now there was little upside to admitting he favored gay marriage:
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:53 No.3051570
    >>3051535
    >implying independents are queer loving redditors
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:53 No.3051575
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    >sticky
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:53 No.3051578
    >>3051556
    you mean "I Hate All Goys" by a washed up jew actor???
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:54 No.3051580
    >>3051505
    Just because you don't like the ruling doesn't mean the ruling doesn't count and is not a valid argument.
    How is your argument of: MAH VALUES! at all legit?

    Seriously :P
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:54 No.3051581
    >>3051565
    you're horrible
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:54 No.3051587
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    Why do gays want to get married so bad?

    I wish I didn't have the choice to get married! Maybe my girlfriend would leave me alone, LOL!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:54 No.3051591
    >>3051478
    >I should only support things if they directly benefit me
    Please die.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:55 No.3051592
    >>3051581
    no go watch World's Greatest Dad instead much less pretentious
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:55 No.3051594
    >>3051559
    in the majority opinion it literally says that marriage is a right.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:55 No.3051604
    >>3051533
    People are stupid and ignore reality, so not everyone reads between the lines.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:56 No.3051613
    >>3051537
    How is living their lives "inflicting their lifestyle choices on the public"? You conservatives keep arguing that gay people getting married is somehow detrimentally effecting you, but haven't brought up a single way in which it actually does.

    Meanwhile, gay people are denied a number of rights and are treated as lesser people. There's actual harm being done here, but you'd rather stand up for your irrelevant tradition without even explaining why we should stick to it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:56 No.3051619
    >Religion grants unions between men and women
    >fags think they need government to force them to allow same sex marriages


    How is this even legal; have these people not heard of separation of church and state?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:56 No.3051622
    >>3051567
    nope no DNC shills in /pol/
    nothing to see here move on
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:56 No.3051624
    There is no gay oppression. It's a fallacy.

    They can live anywhere, work anywhere, do what they feel like.

    Why are they so bitchy?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:57 No.3051628
    Gays should be able to marry and business owners can choose to discriminate against them
    I believe in freedom
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:57 No.3051631
    >>3051580
    Let me put it to you simply.

    I don't give a fuck what a bunch of lawyers in robes say. I hate this corrupt government and corrupt citizen. I don't give a fuck what it think or says.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:57 No.3051632
    >>3051532

    I'm pretty sure you're describing Mitt Romney.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:57 No.3051633
    >>3051559
    Straight from the majority opinion in Loving v. Virginia:
    >Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival
    Marriage is a right in America, fucking deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:57 No.3051639
    >>3051628

    Fuck off Paulfag
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:58 No.3051648
    >>3051613
    >Meanwhile, gay people are denied a number of rights and are treated as lesser people.

    There IS no gay repression! It's a stupid fallacy. You want to mandate the rest of our behavior?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:58 No.3051650
    >>3051624
    why repost the same shit?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:58 No.3051652
    >>3051624
    >do what they feel like.
    Except, you know, marry?
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)15:58 No.3051654
    >>3051631
    If you don't like it then you can leave
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:58 No.3051659
    >>3051619
    >churches want to sanction gay marriages
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessing_of_same-sex_unions_in_Christian_churches#Churches_favorable_to
    _same-sex_marriage
    >conservatives say they're not allowed to

    Have these people never heard of separation of church and states? This shit shouldn't be legal.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:58 No.3051660
    >>3051650
    Why do gays keep bringing up this marriage issue despite everyone telling them to fuck off?

    Because they have nothing better to fucking do.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:59 No.3051661
    Good, energize the evangelical base.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:59 No.3051662
    >>3051648

    If someone can not marry, they are being repressed in some form
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:59 No.3051665
    >>3051631
    >I don't respect legal precedent
    huehuehue
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:59 No.3051667
    >>3051624

    Which is why federal contractors are allowed to discriminate against them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:59 No.3051674
    >>3051660

    >being in a thread about gay marriage
    >crying about the topic

    You're literally retarded.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)15:59 No.3051678
    >>3051654
    Nah...I think I'll stay.

    You can GTFO though.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:00 No.3051681
    >>3051639
    enjoy niggers and the obese in your small business
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:00 No.3051685
    >>3051652
    Yes. Except be granted a privileged status which does not apply.

    Yes. However, this is the ONLY thing being denied to them. There is no gay oppression.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:00 No.3051690
    >>3051613
    what rights are they denied?
    and let us cal it here and now
    Faggotry is a choice, it is an aberrant and deviant behavior and making the choice to take another guys dick in your ass does not give you special rights to force governmental endorsement of your ass dicking on the rest of society
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:00 No.3051694
    >>3051631
    Let me lay it out for you. You're a fucking idiot with no understanding of the law or rights, so what you say on the topic doesn't matter to anybody. The Constitution guarantees equal treatment under the law, which is not currently granted to gay couples, and you're actually advocating the government get more involved in peoples' lives. Fuck you.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:00 No.3051705
    >>3051685

    If you have a fucking right being denied, you're being OPRESSED IN SOME FUCKING WAY
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:00 No.3051708
    So Obama BELIEVES in same sex marriage? Like he BELIEVES the drug war is an "utter failure"? And he WANTS to bring the troops home? We share a lot of the same beliefs then. We could probably be good friends.

    If he wants my vote for president however, he'll have to give me something more than beliefs. Already, he's spent nearly as much as Bush did IN 8 YEARS on raiding medical marijuana dispensaries. He renewed the most controversial parts of the Patriot Act, signed the NDAA into law and has sent hundreds more soldiers overseas despite promising to bring them home. The economy is still in the shitter and we're no closer to de-corporatizing healthcare than we were 4 years ago.

    If you had to judge by his voting record alone, you'd automatically assume he was a right-wing neo-conservative. Unfortunately for this country, he's an extremely convincing speaker who will likely pull another fast one on us in 2012.

    And way to grasp onto a "hot-button" issue to get the vote of your party. He knows democrats overwhelmingly support gay marriage and that this is election season. As a lesbian female, I couldn't care less about gay marriage, abortion or any of the other wedge issues used to divide and conquer apathetic Americans. I care about jobs, sound money, a high standard of living, basic personal freedoms and the right to privacy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:00 No.3051709
    I feel a disturbance, as if millions of jimmies cried out, and were suddenly rustled

    Next few days are going to be interesting.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:01 No.3051715
    >>3051685
    >privileged
    oh boy here we go
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:01 No.3051718
    >>3051662
    That is not oppression, it is common sense. Whatever, majority of states have banned faggot marriage, it's not even like you people are relevant.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:01 No.3051719
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:01 No.3051720
    >>3050663
    Its an election ploy.
    Oh well.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:01 No.3051721
    >>3051660
    why do niggers keep bringing up this interracial marriage issue despite everyone telling them to fuck off?

    Because they have nothing better to fucking do.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:02 No.3051732
    >>3051662
    >If someone can not marry, they are being repressed in some form

    logical fallacy

    they have the right to marry, they want the government to redefine the definition of marriage so they may marry members of the same sex
    >> REGARDING LOVING V. VIRGINIA Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:02 No.3051735
    Please read the Majority Opinion over again. It explicitly mentions racial classification as an obstacle to marriage, and really only applied to interracial couples. The Supreme Court concluded that the arguments against interracial marriage were born out of bigotry. Since nobody is arguing against homosexual marriage from their own bigotry, then we can say that since it isn't a sectarian argument and is instead a constitutional one, that Loving v. Virginia does not apply.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:02 No.3051738
    >>3051685
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg

    They're not even allowed civil unions in twenty states. Are you really suggesting that gays have equal rights in America?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:02 No.3051744
    WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE QUEER GET USED TO IT

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    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)16:02 No.3051748
    >>3051678
    >You don't like how America is run
    >I do
    Yet you tell me to get out, how does that make any sense at all? Why would I leave?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:03 No.3051758
    >>3051735
    >Since nobody is arguing against homosexual marriage from their own bigotry
    hahahahaha
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:03 No.3051760
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    >>3051709
    Indeed. There will innumerable cases of the madz. Can't wait to see what the fine folks at Fox have to say about this...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:03 No.3051761
    >>3051735
    It explicitly states that marriage is a right. It was only brought up in the context of idiots claiming that marriage was a privilege, not a right. It is relevant because these people are patently incorrect.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:03 No.3051767
    Obama just sabotaged his bid for 2012 in an attempt to establish his legacy stance:

    >why publicize it with an interview? why do it the day after NC?

    This is his fucking Brown v. Board, he won't win 2012 but he'll be remembered for his "stance with the fag-bots"

    Plain and simple math now, he just lost every bible heavy swing state : Ohio, Iowa, North Carolina, Pennsylvania... gone. Romdawg will focus heavy on economy issues the entire political season, Obama will shunt off to social issues, and everyone without jobs will shrug and go right. This is over.

    Ron Paul fags GTFO

    Paul doesn't want to win, his entire bid is a dynasty bid for his son, so shut the fuck up. When Rand runs he will be the most perfect GOP candidate ever conceived and will be the face of the new right wing. Get off the RP 2012 wagon and make sure Obamanator doesn't use voodoo trickery to suck your votes into his black hole of a campaign.

    >ITT people who think they understand what the fuck is going on.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:03 No.3051773
    >>3051738

    I know for 100% fact that if this marriage thing was not an issue, gays would find something else to ask for.

    You know it and I know it. Since they are NOT having families and raising children they have all the time in the world to smoke meth and get outraged at everyone else.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:04 No.3051784
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    >>3051735

    >Since nobody is arguing against homosexual marriage from their own bigotry

    Hahahah oh man, that's a good one. That's blatant bullshit and you know it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:04 No.3051787
    >>3051738
    I don't have the right to marry a man either, we have equal rights
    because they WANT to marry a man does not give or take from them the number of rights they have

    retarded faggot
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:04 No.3051790
    >>3051311
    > I believe everyone should be allowed to have the freedom and liberty they deserve.

    Same here but beyond all this is a much larger battle of separation of church and state.
    The battle beyond is whether you have the right to refuse to marry a gay couple because of your own beliefs. Or will you be sued and even charged with federal hate crimes.
    The goal should be equal rights, but it seems the government always has to swing one way or another. Giving "special rights" to one group while taking away the rights of another.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:05 No.3051794
    >>3051773
    This

    First it was adoption, so they could impart their homosex on a new generation. Now it's marriage, so that we all have to care so much.

    It's always something, they won't ever just be happy, normal citizens.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:05 No.3051802
    >>3051773
    You actually think gay couples never have kids?

    Confirmed for complete idiot.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:05 No.3051804
    WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE QUEER GET USED TO IT
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:06 No.3051814
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    Why not enforce all the marriage rules? oh right American marriage is not a christian marriage
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:06 No.3051819
    >>3051802
    The vast majority do not.

    Also, I am against it. Lesbians adopt a white boy and raise him to be a little girl? Oh yeah, nothing wrong there is there?

    Normal happy home?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:06 No.3051824
    >>3051708

    You are a dyke and pothead. Your opinion is invalid.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:07 No.3051830
    Obama is an idiot, nothing new there. Marriage shouldn't even exist in a free society. A president can't say that though otherwise the people who believe in talking snakes and such get really mad and might go postal on you.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:08 No.3051846
    >>3051794

    You should be happy you're seeing a certain sect of people growing and gaining the rights of every other family.

    It's actually a very interesting time in history. Being able to live through it, and see a long-ignored part of the population (mostly because of the bible) gain rights and be able to live as normal citizens is a pretty big thing. I doubt you'll see anything like it, as pretty much everyone else has freedom.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:08 No.3051853
    >>3051787
    Your "special rights" argument is nonsense.

    >the government endorses my relationship, but not theirs
    >it's totally equal, they just want to be treated specially
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:08 No.3051855
    >>3051773
    >Since they are NOT having families and raising children they have all the time in the world to smoke meth and get outraged at everyone else.
    Maybe someone should do something about that then, like I dunno, maybe let them raise families? Then they won't get outraged! Problem Solved!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:09 No.3051869
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    >implying this deserves a sticky
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:09 No.3051873
    >>3051846
    Excuse me?

    Are you this ignorant? The bible has very little do to with it! 99% of humans cultures decided on their own that homosex was wrong.

    You people cannot even deal within reality, stop talking.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:09 No.3051874
    Great, more support for faggot perversion.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:09 No.3051877
    >>3051761

    It states that marriage is a right and can not be forbidden between members of opposite races. It does nothing for homosexual marriage; you can argue all you want, you can scream all you want, but the fact remains that it doesn't grant protection to homosexual, or would-be, homosexual couples.

    Just because somebody isn't allowed to do something doesn't mean they don't have the 'right' to do it. You need to remember that the government cannot force private institutions, especially religious ones, to do anything which acts in difference to their political or religious beliefs.

    I'm sorry the Founders had the audacity to protect free opinion and the exercise thereof.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:10 No.3051883
    >>3051873

    >thinking cultures throughout history haven't engaged in homosex

    hahahahahaaahahahahahahaaha
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:10 No.3051890
    >>3051855
    Oh yeah, lets give buttfucking perverts children to play with.

    Nothing can ever go wrong with this.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:10 No.3051894
    >Despite this Supreme Court ruling, such laws remained on the books, although unenforceable, in several states until 2000, when Alabama became the last state to repeal its law against mixed-race marriage.[11]
    >2000

    WHAT THE FUCK ALABAMA? Fucking hell, that's a backwards ass state.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:10 No.3051900
    What an obvious ploy for the youth vote.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:10 No.3051901
    >>3051883
    Again, not the VAST majority.

    Is this your pattern?' Be wrong, laugh like a jack-ass?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:10 No.3051903
    >>3051890

    Well, at least you're not going to the very extreme end of the spectrum or anything
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:11 No.3051908
    >>3051790
    You do realize that there are churches in support of gay marriage, right? It's just as much a violation of church and state for the government to dictate to them what marriages they can and can't sanction.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:11 No.3051909
    >>3050965
    >lel

    back to /v/
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:11 No.3051910
    Too extreme too soon and this is going to cost him, Obama blew it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:11 No.3051916
    >>3051901

    You might want to realize how history and the world have always worked, and not just how it's worked in your mind before you go calling people ignorant.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)16:11 No.3051919
    >>3051877
    >It states that marriage is a right and can not be forbidden between members of opposite races. It does nothing for homosexual marriage; you can argue all you want, you can scream all you want, but the fact remains that it doesn't grant protection to homosexual, or would-be, homosexual couples.
    >It states that marriage is a right
    >marriage is a right
    If marriage is a right, why doesn't it apply to gays?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:11 No.3051920
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    We won't have the social freedoms of the ancients for a long while
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:11 No.3051921
    >>3051901

    Do you not know anything about the Spartans? You do know their warriors basically engaged in very homosexual acts. It's ironic that the majority of the rights you get to exercise are because of them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:12 No.3051925
    >>3051903
    Whatever man. I just bet you would have LOVED to be raised by two dykes dressing you in skirts from a young age.

    Helping you with make-up, encouraging you that women are better then men.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:12 No.3051931
    >>3051819

    Not any worse that fundies shoving all their wacky ideas into their children's heads. For better or worse parents are free to raise their kids however they want as long as they're not abusing them or stuff like that.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:12 No.3051933
    >>3051877
    I never said that you illiterate sack of shit.

    People were saying that marriage is not a right. Loving v. Virginia says it is. Marriage is a right, that's all it was being brought up to say.

    Fuck you're stupid.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:12 No.3051936
    >>3051921
    Do you not know anything about vast majority?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:13 No.3051947
    >>3051936
    care to point them out?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:13 No.3051948
    >>3051910

    Not necessarily, this puts the focus back on the social issues, where Republicans and Romney are weakest.

    It also serves to differentiate the candidates, as the issues Obama and Romney are quite different on are the social ones.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:13 No.3051955
    >>3051947
    No
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:13 No.3051956
    Common sense party wins again.

    Hint: I'm not talking about the Democrats.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:13 No.3051957
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    >>3051744
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:13 No.3051962
    >>3051910
    I think you've lost track of which positions are extreme.
    nothing extreme about equal rights.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:13 No.3051963
    >>3051925

    You're just really comfortable over there at the extreme end of hyperbole, aren't you?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:14 No.3051964
    >>3051819
    >>The vast majority do not.
    mostly due to the limitations put in place by adoption agencies and the legal issues of custody of a non-married couple vs. a legally wed-locked one.

    besides, birth rates in straight households are dropping, need to keep up.

    >>Also, I am against it. Lesbians adopt a white boy and raise him to be a little girl? Oh yeah, nothing wrong there is there?
    one case of abusive parents represent the entire LGBT community? what about all the cases of feril children being locked up in their rooms for years, of the innumerable cases of physically and sexually abused in straight households? statistically gay couples have been found to be better parents as they actually need to put effort into getting a child, straight couples just need some cheap beer and bad condoms.

    >>Normal happy home?
    there is nothing keeping a gay household from a living a happy, productive existence anymore than there are ensurances that a straight household wont be an abusive shithole.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:14 No.3051973
    >>3051877
    >Just because somebody isn't allowed to do something doesn't mean they don't have the 'right' to do it. You need to remember that the government cannot force private institutions, especially religious ones, to do anything which acts in difference to their political or religious beliefs.
    Except it's the government that is refusing to grant marriage licenses to gay couples. Churches have nothing to do with marriage; sure people can have a church ceremony if they want, but nobody is considered married without the approval of the government.

    Marriage is a right. The government is denying that right to individuals due to crying from religious groups. That's a violation of the separation of church and states.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:15 No.3051977
    This is not a negotiation. This is not a debate. Same-sex marriage will become legal. We will shove it down your throats at gunpoint if we have to. We had to with segregation, we had to with slavery-we had to actually fucking kill you en masse to get rid of slavery. We are the good guys, and we WILL win. Over your dead bodies, if necessary.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:15 No.3051988
    >>3051956
    >derp, lets block everything and shut down the legeslature
    >party of common sense
    try again.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:15 No.3051989
    >>3051977
    This is not segregation and this is not slavery you fucking retard. This is not a right by any means. It's just a fucking word.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:15 No.3051990
    >>3051963
    Are you serious?

    You think ANY children raised by homosexual partners end up heterosexual?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:16 No.3051994
    What a fucking joke.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:16 No.3051997
    >>3051919

    Bad wording on my part. It ended race-based discrimination when it comes to marriage. It just says that if you are black and I am white, then we can have sexy time and put a ring on each other's fingers. It doesn't say anything about you and I, both being males, wanting to fuck each other.

    If you read the majority opinion in full, you'll see that it is specifically speaking about race and marriage--not sexual orientation and marriage, or just blanket marriage.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:16 No.3052000
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    >>3051936
    >>3051947

    As far as I know it's just been Christians and Muslims and probably Jews that have. That may be the majority, but not the vast majority. I wonder how other cultures of Asia see homosexuality.

    Also the vast majority of people believed the world was flat and anyone that said the world was round was considered a bigot and danger to humanity, how did that work out?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:16 No.3052005
    >>3051977
    >Gays
    >Tolerant and law abiding normal members of society
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:17 No.3052012
    >>3051988
    Dems did the exact same thing with Bush.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:17 No.3052014
    >>3051873

    Yeah, because throughout our history we've always been 100% right about everything we decided was wrong. 99% of human cultures used to think the world was flat, and that we were literally the center of the universe. That's an awful defense to use.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:17 No.3052020
    >>3051873
    >99% of humans cultures decided on their own that homosex was wrong.
    er....
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:17 No.3052025
    >>3051948
    Nothing has changed, you blind fools.

    Obama is doing this to get the gay vote. Just like other Presidents past have used this to get the anti-gay vote. Its the same shit, only the numbers have changed. I hate this fucking country because this will somehow be more important than our fucking lives.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:17 No.3052026
    >>3051989
    but it is government policy endorsing discrimination and bigotry.

    no matter how many republicans hate freedom, they'll always lose to the real Americans.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:17 No.3052027
    >>3051761
    >It explicitly states that marriage is a right

    granted and marriage, by definition is between 1 man and 1 woman

    your point is moot
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:18 No.3052038
    >>3051359
    He was also one of 3 republican dream act supporters. All 3 are gone.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:18 No.3052040
    Why is polygamy illegal then????

    Gays do NOT support polygamy, right people?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:18 No.3052041
    >>3051977

    You're not the good guys. You're counter-culture become establishment. You're the revolution in power become a greater monster than those that preceded you. You're a subculture of whiners, malcontents, and people who believe that your inconveniences are tantamount to murder-at-will and slavery.

    Trouble is, you're just loud, and the weak-minded will swallow the loud tripe of relatively small numbers.

    Captcha: The Plantsta
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:18 No.3052046
    >>3052012
    false.
    compare number of filibusters rather than trusting fox news.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:19 No.3052051
    >>3052041
    This over 9000
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:19 No.3052055
    >>3052000
    Japanese practiced warrior homosexuality akin to Spartans. They believed that homosexual love strengthened ties between fellow warriors.
    Samurai also engaged in pederasty with their apprentices whilst teaching them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:19 No.3052060
    >>3052025

    >Obama is doing this to get the gay vote.

    But he already had the gay vote, this doesn't change that.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:19 No.3052062
    GAYS DO NOT SUPPORT POLYGAMY

    THEY ARE HYPOCRITICAL PERVERTS
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:19 No.3052063
    >>3052026
    >talks about killing people in the streets to get his way
    >Republicans hate freedom derp
    There is no discrimination here at all. Gays have ALWAYS been free to get married. And if they see marriage as inconsistent with their lifestyle, they have ALWAYS been free to get a civil union. The only discrimination is yours towards American society and culture as you try to change definitions in an effort to force your cultural marxism down everybody's throat.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:20 No.3052068
    >>3052040
    I also support this
    I want a cooking cleaning and gardening wife
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:20 No.3052069
    >>3050896
    >>3050876

    Nobody's going to force your church to marry gays, retard. Never heard of city hall? You think atheists don't get married?

    What's gonna change, is that when MY church DOES marry gays, it'll actually be legally recognized by the government. Whereas right now, it isn't.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:20 No.3052070
    >>3052040
    Polygamy should be legal too. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, why the fuck not?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:21 No.3052087
    >>3052026
    Faggotry is a choice and behavior
    it is a deviant behavior
    the vast VAST majority of people do not approve of faggotry
    your behavior does not grant you extra rights and the right to change society to your nihilistic urge fulfillment
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:21 No.3052088
    >>3052063

    >Gays have ALWAYS been free to get married. And if they see marriage as inconsistent with their lifestyle, they have ALWAYS been free to get a civil union.

    Are we at the "blatant lies" stage now?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:21 No.3052094
    >>3052070
    Anyone who posts on 4chan is an absolute fool for supporting polygamy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052097
    >>3052087

    Faggotry is as much a choice as heterotry
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052099
    >>3052070
    Bad things happen when there are too many males without females.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052100
    >>3052087
    oooh so edgy and kewl xD
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052101
    Its kind of sad seeing so many insecure cavemen in this thread. Calm down; a couple of gays getting married isn't going to affect your life. You'll be ok.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052110
    >>3052088
    There's no lie about it. In recent history, any gay man or woman is allowed to partake in marriage. They are also allowed to partake in a civil union if they prefer to be with somebody of the same sex instead.

    Keep trying to make yourself feel better.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052111
    >>3052041
    >counter-culture
    or changing culture, for people not enslaved by tradition.

    the telling element is that liberals have greater empirical evidence supporting all their positions.
    correlation to reality is the only thing that creates objectively better policy, which republicans have long forgotten.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052114
    >One noteworthy pattern was that some majority black counties which had strongly backed Obama in 2008 just as strongly supported the proposed amendment on Tuesday.

    >For example, Hertford County, with a 60 percent black population, voted for Obama with 70 percent in 2008 and on Tuesday 70 percent of its voters backed the constitutional amendment defining marriage.

    >And Halifax County, with a 53 percent black population, voted for Obama with 64 percent in 2008 and backed the amendment with 68 percent of its votes.

    http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/08/11604355-north-carolina-approves-ban-on-same-sex-m
    arriage-by-wide-margin

    Lol why do blacks hate gays so much? Can they not see the parallels between laws prohibiting gay marriage and laws prohibiting miscegenation? You'd think people who have struggled for centuries to gain equal rights would be more sympathetic to gays and their cause.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052118
    >>3052055
    yeah only that's not true
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:22 No.3052121
    >>3051901
    Ancient Greece, Rome, Japan, China, India and Africa had no stigma against homsex.
    Emergence of Christianity subdued it for a while but it was still practiced widely by the ruling classes, and probably on the quiet by the working classes.
    Massive re-emergence in the Jacobean and Romantic era.
    Now accepted in most of the Western World. Even the middle east engages in it, look up bach bazi.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:23 No.3052124
    >>3052099
    what are betas going to do about it? complain on /r9k/?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:23 No.3052133
    >>3052118
    Yeah, accept it is.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan#Ancient_Japan
    >> Mitt Doesn't Support Gay Marriage Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:23 No.3052139
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    http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/romneys-view-on-gay-marriage-not-evolving/

    Oh my fucking sides!!!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:23 No.3052143
    >>3052070

    You're right, it should.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:23 No.3052144
    >>3052114
    > implying deciding to suck cocks = being born with black skin
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:23 No.3052145
    >>3052124
    that's funny considering gays LOST the majority of states :/
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:23 No.3052146
    Even niggers know how disgusting faggots are. Why are liberals dumber than niggers when it comes to fags?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:24 No.3052149
    Damn.

    Even in glorious socialist Europe the leaders don't recognize gay-marriage as an equal to normal marriage.

    Or is this America finally getting a 'civil partnership' type deal?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:24 No.3052158
    >>3052118
    yes it is fuck it even got an episode of Samurai Champloo
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:24 No.3052159
    >>3052101

    Who cares about gays getting married? I want the annoying ones dismembered, fucked in the stumps by syphlitic mongrel dogs, and then slowly bled to death in front of fag hags and "progressives."
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:24 No.3052165
    >>3052114
    Shit rolls downhill.
    Everyone wants someone a little further downhill from them to get all the shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:24 No.3052166
    >>3052133
    >retard sites wikipedia
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:24 No.3052171
    >>3052111

    So let's see this evidence, then.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:25 No.3052179
    >>3052146
    Because they aren't very smart and ride with their emotions.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:25 No.3052181
    >>3052166
    Look at the citations if you want, google it if you must. Why is this so hard to accept?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:25 No.3052184
    >>3051037
    Civil unions DON'T give the same rights. It affects everything from how you file your income tax, to sponsoring your immigrant spouse, to transfering property to your widow/er when you die... .You'd have to rewrite about 4000 laws at the federal level alone.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:25 No.3052191
    >>3052166
    Fuck off.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:25 No.3052193
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    >>3051101
    SMARTEST POST I HAVE EVER SEEN ON 4CHAN
    100 Internets to you sir/maddam
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:25 No.3052195
    >>3052121
    >Ancient Greece, Rome, Japan, China, India and Africa had no stigma against homsex


    only they all did, stop getting your history from your junior high social studies teacher moron
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:26 No.3052197
    >>3052110

    You're fucking with me right?

    Gay marriage and civil unions are banned outright in most states. Only a handful actually allow it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:26 No.3052198
    >>3052159

    Cool edginess, bro. I bet you impress your friends a lot.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:26 No.3052201
    >>3052184
    >to sponsoring your immigrant spouse

    Oh wat the fuck? now we have to let faggots give citizenship to their foreign butt buddies?

    No, screw off. Faggotry does not guarantee citizenship.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:26 No.3052205
    >>3052158
    Oh right Samurai Champloo. Inuyasha also happened I saw it on tv!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:26 No.3052208
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    >>3052166

    >gets destroyed
    >denies claim
    >gets multiple sources to back up the decimation he just received
    >denies the evidence

    Holy shit conservatives
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:26 No.3052210
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    >mfw this costs Obama the election
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:27 No.3052219
    yay. obama is finally in the 21st century.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:27 No.3052221
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    >>3052139
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:27 No.3052222
    Plenty of societies have had gay relations. In fact, the founding fathers, up until Lincoln and probably further, had what was called 'Gentlemen Friends' Who was basically a questionable best friend who had the same status as his wife.

    But those saying that Gay Marriage is harmless are only half right. Because its not about what people do with their own privacy, when marriage is involved it is a matter of Tax Breaks and Benefits, and in fact all marriage is unconstitutional and should be gotten rid of.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:27 No.3052223
    >>3052184
    >to transfering property to your widow/er when you die

    Why can't gay people into wills?

    Anonymous, when I die I can leave everything I own to some random from a phone book if I want. Stop lying.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:27 No.3052236
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    >mfw when this fixes Mitt's potential problem with evangelicals staying home.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:27 No.3052237
    >>3052221
    WHY IS THE MEDIA NOT SHOWING THIS?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:28 No.3052238
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:28 No.3052242
    Obama loves to take cock. (Israels cock)

    This proves it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:28 No.3052246
    Hm. Obama loses the Black vote for the Gay vote. Blacks believe that the Illuminati run dis shit.

    Ron Paul 2012. Is...is it happening now?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:28 No.3052251
    >>3052205
    Do you care to post anything to the contrary or are you just going to put your fingers in your ears?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:29 No.3052261
    >>3052246

    >Implying blacks would ever vote for Ron Paul
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:29 No.3052272
    >>3052158
    >yes it is fuck it even got an episode of Samurai Champloo
    >an episode of Samurai Champloo
    >Samurai Champloo

    ok now you're trolling
    no one can be that retarded
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:30 No.3052280
    >>3052238
    Look at Romney's, its ALL banks, financial services or companies that supply banks and only banks.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:30 No.3052281
    >>3052261
    Why, because the media said he was racist? I think blacks are actually very keen on how fake the media is. They've had to deal with it for years.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:30 No.3052283
    >>3052246
    he voted against martin luther king day. he was the only one. he is a fucking senile old man.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:30 No.3052288
    It would be really hilarious if this pisses blacks off to the point they don't vote for Obama.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:30 No.3052294
    >>3052272
    But it was historically accurate, look at the wikipedia article if you want.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:30 No.3052296
    >>3051790
    Just like the government forces the catholic church to ordain women? GTFO with that retarded bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:30 No.3052297
    I wonder why now?

    He already had the vote of the left, why further isolate the right?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:31 No.3052306
    >>3052280

    They're both supported by the banks. No matter who wins or loses, the banks win either way.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:31 No.3052307
    >>3052272
    >getting told by a cartoon
    scrub detected
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:31 No.3052308
    >>3052208
    >sites wikipedia and Samurai Champlo as source
    > claims crushing victory over opponent

    LIBERAL LOGIC
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:31 No.3052310
    >>3052297
    independents and log cabins
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:31 No.3052311
    >>3052238
    >$690k

    what is that like the cost in gas for a round trip private jet ride across the country?

    >mfw liberals think he's giving billions in bailouts because he received not even $1 million
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:31 No.3052312
    >>3052283
    >Senile old man
    That was quite a while ago, and besides, he was against just tossing a federal holiday on the table and he was right. They only did it to seem progressive.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:31 No.3052316
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    romney: "okay! that's enough pampering to the far right, now to start getting a little more centrist"

    obama: "what? you mean these guys? no, I think you're going to be stuck with them"

    Romeny: "OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:32 No.3052322
    >>3052311

    The donated the maximum they were allowed to donate
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:32 No.3052329
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    >>3052308

    I didn't see you cite any counter arguments? You demand sources from them, they give you them and then you don't provide any counter sources to them?

    Hilarious Cuntservative logic.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:33 No.3052337
    >>3052308
    >implying wikipedia isn't a legitimate source
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:33 No.3052339
    >>3052311

    That is just what is on record. You can bet you're ass he has been getting money on the side from them, and lots of it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:33 No.3052341
    >>3052272
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan

    Suck a dick, bitch.

    >inb4 lolwikipedia
    >just look at the citations, faggots

    There's also records of pederasty and homosexuality in Viking beserkers, Greeks (especially the Spartans), Arabs, and the Pashtun.

    Everybody likes sucking dick.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:33 No.3052345
    >>3052246

    Lol, he won't lose the black vote because of this. White liberals and the Democratic party has supported marriage equality for a while now and blacks still overwhelmingly vote Dem (can't remember the exact statistics but I think like 95% of blacks vote Democrat, some ridiculously high amount like that). They may not agree with the party on gay marriage, but they like that free money they get more than they hate gays.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:34 No.3052348
    >>3052281

    Because MUH WELFARE and MUH SCHOLARSHIPS
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:34 No.3052355
    >>3052329
    >Samurai Champloo
    >historically accurate

    seriously you have to be troll no one can be that retarded, you're sight A FUCKING CARTOON AS A HISTORICAL REFERENCE????
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:34 No.3052356
    >>3052341
    NU U WIKIPEDIA IS NOT LEGITIMATE SORES HOMOSEX WAS ALWAYS WRONG AND THOUGHT OF AS WRONG BY ALL CULTURES HURP TA DURP
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:35 No.3052373
    >>3052355
    No, we're citing wikipeida, Samurai Champloo was just a sidenote.
    Oh, and the segment on this that was in Samurai Champloo was historically accurate, and to dismiss it because it is a cartoon is the definition of ad hominem.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:36 No.3052383
    >>3052345
    He won't lose the percentage, just fewer blacks will bother to vote.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:36 No.3052386
    Marriage isn't popular these days, but there are still lots of people who want to get married.

    Of course, this crosses into gay people as well. And that's not a problem. Anyone who wants to get married should be able to get married (with consent), regardless of sexual orientation.

    It's literally a fucking slip of paper; why are people so hung up over 2 people not getting a legal piece of paper.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:36 No.3052391
    >>3052386
    because muh bible
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:36 No.3052397
    >>3052341
    oh god you retarded faggot you get owned by your own retarded source
    >A variety of obscure literary references to same-sex love exist in ancient sources, but many of these are so subtle as to be unreliable
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:37 No.3052398
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    >>3052341

    Yeah, and that's why there is so many Viking berserkers, Greeks (they are especially doing well), Arabs, and the Pashtun (whatever the fuck they are) around.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:37 No.3052401
    >>3052386
    because it doesn't affect me personally and i am the most important person in the world blah blah blah
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:37 No.3052411
    >>3052355
    They actually did their research pretty well for that show; the depiction of the era, how Japanese Christians were treated, and how Dutch merchants interacted with the populous were completely accurate.

    Also see >>3052341 and then look at the citations and confirm the research yourself.

    Again, being freaked out by this shit is only for fucking fags. Fagging it up is completely natural.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:37 No.3052413
    >>3052398
    >implying bisexuality wasn't common
    >implying gays didn't reproduce
    >implying homosexuality is genetic
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:38 No.3052417
    >>3052345
    I have heard from some blacks about this, and they honestly feel like Obama has betrayed them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:38 No.3052419
    >>3052223
    My boss is an estate lawyer. You'd be surprised how many people die intestate.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:38 No.3052429
    >>3052397
    >Nevertheless, references do exist, and they become more numerous in the Heian Period, roughly the 11th century.
    Look mah, I finished the paragraph!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:38 No.3052434
    You know who else supported gay marriage?


    Hitler.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:39 No.3052437
    this pleases me
    the large majority of democrats do not approve of gay marriage
    Obama has ended the Democratic party for decades
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:39 No.3052441
    >>3052417
    how, did he take away their handouts?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:39 No.3052459
    >>3052417

    Lol sure you have.

    So I guess that means they're going to vote for Mitt "No More Welfare Checks For You" Romney instead? I doubt it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:40 No.3052461
    >Obama against gay marriage in 2008
    >Later comes states that his view is evolving.
    >Biden goes full retard and starts talking about gay marriage on an interview that wasn't even supposed to cover it.
    >Public naturally asks Obama what his stance is
    >He comes in in support of it

    >OMGS HES USING IT AS A CAMPAIGN STRATEGY FLIPFLOPPING NIGGERS ASDFKAL
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:40 No.3052466
    >>3052413

    HANG THE FUCK ON. Homosexuality isn't genetic? I thought that was homophobic to say?

    It's an interesting dichotomy, to say the least.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:41 No.3052487
    >>3052466
    We still don't know what causes it.
    Chances are we are all slightly bisexual and environmental and social factors can cause it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:41 No.3052496
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    >>3052434
    >Hitler
    >not killing impure races, homosexuals, and other undesireables

    Pick one
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:42 No.3052501
    >>3052466
    I reckon its psychosexual.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:42 No.3052505
    he just lost the Presidency

    Romney 2012
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:43 No.3052519
    >>3052505
    see

    >>3052221

    and

    >>3052139
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:43 No.3052522
    Black people are generally just as religious as southern people/Republicans. Of course they don't like this.

    Also
    >Believing gayness isn't genetic.
    Come on guys, this isn't the past anymore.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:43 No.3052523
    >>3052501

    But you do see my point, right?

    >"HOMOSEXUALITY IS GENETIC! I WAS BORN THIS WAY, YOU BIGOT!"
    >"HOMOSEXUALITY ISN'T GENETIC, YOU BIGOT! WE WON'T PASS IT TO OUR KIDS!"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:43 No.3052529
    >>3052466
    If it is a choice it is not afforded any special rights and priviledges
    If it is a genetic trait it becomes a minority class entitled to all the special rights and privileges afforded to minorities

    the Faggots shot themselves in the cock ring when they got homosexuality taken off the APA 's list of mental illnesses
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:44 No.3052535
    >>3052434

    "...but only if both chicks are hot".

    get it? hot? cause he sent them to the ovens?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:44 No.3052537
    >>3052496
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernst_R%C3%B6hm
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:44 No.3052540
    >>3052519
    see
    http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57431100-503544/romney-affirms-opposition-to-same-sex-marriag
    e/

    stop living in the past obamadrone
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:44 No.3052543
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    >>3052466

    The only thing confirmed about homosexuality is that they like the same sex. Every time some science starts to figure shit out, they get counter evidence. They're multiple instances of one twin being gay and the other not. And it's not "lol I'm so edgy teen" gay, it's "I'm wearing lipgloss and a pretty scarf" gay. It's confusing as fuck. I'm never going to understand homosexuality but I'd like to understand why homosexuals are homosexuals.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:44 No.3052546
    >>3052523
    Yeah, I'm gay and I think its down to early-stage development.
    I am almost certain that it is not genetic.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:45 No.3052556
    >>3052540
    so he was for it and now is against it, sounds very UNRomney
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:46 No.3052571
    >>3052546
    so you are mentally ill and should not be allowed to enter into legally binding contracts or vote

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:46 No.3052572
    conservatives should move to iran or nigeria or some other hyper religious 3rd world country.It's hilarious how right wingers hate muslims and niggers when they share the same "moral" values.Get the fuck out bigots.This is the western world.Go play with muslims and niggers,you have so much in common.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:46 No.3052575
    >>3052398
    Oh god you are retarded.

    >Viking beserkers = modern scandinavians
    >Greek = one of the most influential civilizations of all time, still affect our way of thinking about the world, cradle of civilization
    >Arabs are still around obviously? Just way more homophobic because of retarded religion
    >Pashtun are the Afghan mountain tribes that are kicking our ass in Afghanistan

    Also I don't really know what your point is with that; are you trying to say that civilizations that accept homosexuality die out eventually? Because all of those groups fell for reasons completely unrelated to liking dicks.

    >>3052397
    Uh, ok.
    http://www.gay-art-history.org/gay-history/gay-customs/japan-samurai-male-love/japan-samurai-homosex
    ual-shudo.html
    http://www.westernbuddhistreview.com/vol3/homosexuality.html
    http://books.google.com/books?id=a6q-PqPDAmIC&pg=PA26#v=onepage&q&f=false
    http://www.h-net.org/reviews/showrev.php?id=4126

    Is that good enough for you?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:46 No.3052576
    >>3052556
    people change...
    it's called evolving as a human being when given the proper facts
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:46 No.3052577
    >>3052571
    Oh you
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:47 No.3052580
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    >mfw a sitting President expressed new found support for an issue that just took a 20 point curbstomp in a 15 point swing state the night before
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:47 No.3052592
    >>3052572
    >implying they don't practice homosexuality too
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bacha_baz
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:47 No.3052596
    gays = mentally ill
    obama supports mentally ill marriage
    bad president
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:48 No.3052598
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    America explodes over such shitty issue that my country passes as if it was nothing.

    Having a large gay demographics is actually a good thing. It wards off the mudslimes.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:48 No.3052613
    >>3052459
    Not what I said. They'll probably not vote at all.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:49 No.3052618
    >>3052461
    Anyone who can't see this for the orchestrated manipulative "story" it is should vote for Obama. Because they're idiots.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:49 No.3052619
    Watch this you faggots, and realize you're all retards for giving a shit.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXpsT3e8UsM
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:49 No.3052622
    >>3052466
    Homosexuality no doubt has some biological basis, which does not necessarily mean "genetics" - genes don't work in a vacuum, there are thousands of environmental factors both before and after birth that determine how they are expressed.

    It's doubtful there is a single "gay gene" or anything like that.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:49 No.3052623
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    >>3052576
    >evolving as a human being
    >denying peoples rights
    >> !5G.kLeGACY 05/09/12(Wed)16:50 No.3052631
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:50 No.3052641
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    >>3052598

    >wards of mudslimes

    HOLY SHIT!!!

    LEGALIZE HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE NOW!!!!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:50 No.3052646
    >>3052592
    fuck off what does that have to do with anything?.gay couples in iran are fucking hanged.YOU SHARE THE SAME VALUES AS FUCKING MUSLIMS.deal with it
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:51 No.3052657
    >>3052619
    >implying marriage isn't important in terms of last of kin rights
    >implying we're having the debate he's having
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:51 No.3052661
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    >>3052571

    See >>3052543

    Science has said that it's both? And I mean that question mark. They just don't fucking know. What they do know is that they perform everyday functions in society just fine and the only real difference is that they like the same gender.

    I kind of guess that it's a Genetic-Environmental combination, that basically was realized during our history when there was some crazy environmental shit going on, such as when the last Super Volcano went off in the Philippines. It's like somesort of deep human survival technique. Basically to an extent, everyone is a little BI. The thing is, there isn't really a way to prove or disprove this. The only reason Science would say this is because there are a million plot points on the spectrum of what causes the Gay.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:51 No.3052664
    >>3052576

    It's called "being a presidential candidate," actually.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:52 No.3052668
    >>3052523
    While there are stupid fags who think like that and thus contradict their peers making themselves look like stupid faggots, I think that regardless of that, it doesn't matter anyway.

    Why is it a bad a thing?

    Because it isn't doesn't result in babies? Well, neither does sex with condoms or anal sex, and nobodies trying to ban that except fanatics.

    Because it isn't natural? Studies have shown that there's a huge number of faggots in different animal species as well, and houses/clothes/TVs/medicine etc are not "natural" either. What the fuck does natural mean?

    Because it's against your religion? Well, then don't suck a dick. Simple as thqt. Leave other fuckers alone.

    Any other reasons?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:52 No.3052675
    >>3052619
    He does have a point about wedding ceremonies, you seen one you've seen them all
    >> xXMLG_Hades_420Xx !ICarUslkSU 05/09/12(Wed)16:54 No.3052699
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    dohoho
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:55 No.3052714
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    >>3052466
    Homosexuality no doubt has some biological basis, which does not necessarily mean "genetics" - genes don't work in a vacuum, there are thousands of environmental factors both before and after birth that determine how they are expressed.

    It's very doubtful there is a single "gay gene" or anything like that.

    Also sexuality is a continuum, and doesn't necessarily stay static over a lifetime.

    At 23 I was largely attracted to male "pretty boy" types, with a few girls on the side. At 43 I am almost exclusively interested in females.

    A female friend's husband of more than a decade suffers from a neurodegenerative disorder and is suddenly a cross dresser, having never been interested in it before.

    Brains, and sexuality, are complicated.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:55 No.3052718
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    >denying equal rights to all American citizens
    >giving a shit about what other people do with their lives
    >being on the same side of social issues as backwards fundie morons

    I seriously hope you guys don't do this.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:55 No.3052723
    >>3052699
    fair and balanced they say..
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:55 No.3052727
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    >>3052699
    That's hilarious.

    The way they spin things is insane.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:55 No.3052728
    As I see it (agnostic logical independent AKA mostly conservative), allowing same-sex marriage is a very conservative position.

    We constantly espouse the values and protections of every individual that are in the constitution, even if it means something we are not entirely comfortable with. We believe in a society in which people are evaluated by their merits and actions, not their race, color, gender, or sexual orientation. The Equal Protection Clause in the 14th Amendment solidifies and encourages the protection of both of these things.

    Fags and dykes deserve the very basic legal regard as every other citizen. There is no legal, constitutional argument to the contrary. I support Obama finally growing a pair and flaming out of the closet with this. Although he is still a despicable sack of shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:56 No.3052732
    >>3052718
    fuck off back to reddit you PC faggot
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:56 No.3052736
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    I'm 100% in favor of gay marriage, but it's pretty funny how both Obama and Biden both straight up lied about it in 2008. I remember both of them clearly stating multiple times that they DID NOT believe that gay marriage should be legal.

    Their positions 'evolved'? Yeah, more like they saw the Tuesday poll showing majority American support for gay marriage for the first time.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:56 No.3052743
    >>3052728
    yea only their is and your fake conservative stance doesn't fool anyone
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:57 No.3052746
    >>3052714
    >At 43
    That's just creepy, why are you on 4chan?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:57 No.3052753
    >>3052699

    Why is it Fox News always spins anything liberals do into a "war"? Their rhetorical attacks are just sort of outright libel and slander.

    If they could get away with it, they'd call something a "holocaust of" something or other.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:57 No.3052758
    >>3052714
    >at 43
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:57 No.3052759
    Obama just lost Ohio and Florida

    Such a smart president
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:57 No.3052761
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    >>3052699

    They're about as fair and balanced as Elton John is straight.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:58 No.3052765
    >>3052728
    but HURR DURR MAH VALUES
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:58 No.3052767
    >>3052723
    1. its ABC
    2. it's a shoop you retard
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:58 No.3052773
    >>3052746
    >>past a certain age
    >>That's just creepy, why do you still have hobbies? Why ado you still live?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:59 No.3052781
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    >>3052746
    Why not?
    4chan kinda reminds me of the old USENET days, but with lots more cat pictures.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:59 No.3052783
    >>3052732

    Fuck you, nigger spic. I believe in freedom and all that bullshit, and yes that includes marriage rights for all people, but don't call me "PC". I'm far from it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:59 No.3052784
    >>3052767
    so angry, don't worry the gays are not gonna marry you.

    not with that attitude at least
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:59 No.3052788
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    >Republicans say marriage comes from the churches

    >"By the power invested in me by THE STATE OF _______. I now pronounce you man and wife."

    Stay stupid Conservatards
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:59 No.3052791
    >>3052699

    >ok that looks shooped as fuck
    >does some investigating
    >WTF

    Holy shit it was real?
    lol American right wingers get it together pls.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)16:59 No.3052792
    mynigger.jpg
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:00 No.3052797
    >>3052767
    They changed it, that is what it said a few minutes ago, see:
    >>3051255
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:00 No.3052805
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    F A B U L O U S
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:01 No.3052811
    >>3051990
    I've got a good friend raised by a gay couple. He's knee-deep in pussy.

    I've also got a few transgender friends raised by straight couples, and some of them are gay too.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:01 No.3052818
    hahahaha that nigger just fucked himself with the black vote in many ways

    there are niggers in the local churches who said they're not going to vote for him if he supporters faggot marriage.

    There isn't a black vote demographic in America that support gay marriage. It's over for him.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:01 No.3052823
    >>3051990
    Are you retarded?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:02 No.3052833
    >>3052818
    What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price., you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:02 No.3052837
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    >>3051990

    ... are you seriously this stupid? Do you actually think that homosexuality is infectious?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:03 No.3052844
    >>3052818

    What about gay blacks?
    >> xXMLG_Hades_420Xx !ICarUslkSU 05/09/12(Wed)17:03 No.3052851
    >>3052767
    google the headline, there's multiple trustworthy sources with articles about it
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:03 No.3052853
    >>3052818
    >black people
    >vote for romney
    pick one.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:03 No.3052859
    >>3052837
    Maybe he got it via buttsex?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:04 No.3052863
    gay parents raise gay children
    I have the medical journal to back it up too
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:04 No.3052868
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    >>3052818
    It's adds to the drama. If Romney wins, so be it. If Obama wins, the christfags and mudslimes will be in for a hell of a trollercoaster.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:04 No.3052875
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    >The good news for President Obama is that he more than doubled his 2008 primary showing in West Virginia when Hillary Clinton trounced him 67 percent to 26 percent and carried all of the state’s 55 counties.
    >The bad news for Obama is that Keith Judd, Inmate No. 11593-051, serving a 210-month sentence at the Beaumont Federal Correctional Institution in Texas, also outperformed the president’s 2008 West Virginia primary showing.
    >Judd, who lists himself as a “Rastafarian-Christian” and his career as “Founder, World Peace Through Musical Communications Skills,” took 41 percent of the vote among West Virginia Democrats and carried 10 counties.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:05 No.3052880
    >>3052833
    What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price., you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:05 No.3052886
    >>3052880
    What the fuck did you just fucking say about me, you little bitch? I’ll have you know I graduated top of my class in the Navy Seals, and I’ve been involved in numerous secret raids on Al-Quaeda, and I have over 300 confirmed kills. I am trained in gorilla warfare and I’m the top sniper in the entire US armed forces. You are nothing to me but just another target. I will wipe you the fuck out with precision the likes of which has never been seen before on this Earth, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that shit to me over the Internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my secret network of spies across the USA and your IP is being traced right now so you better prepare for the storm, maggot. The storm that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your life. You’re fucking dead, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can kill you in over seven hundred ways, and that’s just with my bare hands. Not only am I extensively trained in unarmed combat, but I have access to the entire arsenal of the United States Marine Corps and I will use it to its full extent to wipe your miserable ass off the face of the continent, you little shit. If only you could have known what unholy retribution your little “clever” comment was about to bring down upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn’t, you didn’t, and now you’re paying the price., you goddamn idiot. I will shit fury all over you and you will drown in it. You’re fucking dead, kiddo.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:05 No.3052888
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    >>3051990
    Are you serious?

    You think ANY children raised by heterosexual partners end up homosexual?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:05 No.3052891
    >>3052863
    Just like straight parents only raise straight kids, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:06 No.3052899
    >>3052863

    Let me guess, it's from the Christian Science Association by Dr. Christchild with a degree from the College of Southern Baptist Christians, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:06 No.3052917
    >>3052863
    >i have awesome sources, no really, i do!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:06 No.3052918
    >>3052891
    odds are 1 parent holds the faggot gene
    >>3052899
    fuck you
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:07 No.3052927
    >>3052875

    Oh man you saw that story too? Is that even real? It feels like someone from /pol/ wrote that and not a real journalist.

    I need to go back and actually read that, but it's so hard because again, it looks like some edgy 12 year old wrote it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:08 No.3052934
    >>3052918
    >gay people reproducing
    >implying most don't adopt
    >implying homosexuality is genetic
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:08 No.3052938
    >>3052918
    so it's genetics, but the adopted child of a gay couple is gay cause of all that infectious gay virus floating around his adoptive parents.

    laughinggirls.jpg
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:08 No.3052944
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    >>3052918

    Too obvious.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:09 No.3052949
    >>3052743
    Oh really? 'Their' is? I'd really like to hear/read it, because I can't think of any and haven't read any yet.

    And voicing my opinion does me no good if i'm not being honest. I'm mostly conservative, as I said.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:09 No.3052950
    >>3052891
    I like the reverse argument better.

    Gay families with kids are exceedingly rare, therefore most of the gays must be from heterosexual families. Conclusion: heterosexual parents spread homofaggotry.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:09 No.3052960
    >>3050876
    >Great, he doesn't understand the separation of church and state either.
    Christians screwed the pooch on this one by enshrining marriage in our legal code. I'm all for letting churches do whatever the fuck they want, but not when it has the force of law. Also, it's not like the other side hasn't been pushing DOMA. Hell, North Carolina just amended its constitution to prevent gay marriage. Explain to me how this isn't 100 times more meddling than Obama saying he supports the idea of gay marriage.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:09 No.3052963
    >>3052918
    >odds are 1 parent holds the faggot gene
    so how did we get the first gays then? was it really adam, eve, and steve?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:11 No.3052979
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    This is just another signboard telling the
    Islamists their bigoted views aren't welcome in America.

    It's not a bad deal.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:11 No.3052986
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    >>3052950

    Then our objective is clear: Heterosexuality must be exterminated so that no more homosexuals are made!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:11 No.3052990
    OH NOES IF TEH GAYS CAN GET MARRIED THAN NO ONE ELSE CAN!!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:11 No.3052993
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    >>3052875
    Holy shit I'd totally vote for that guy, Obama wouldn't have a chance.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:12 No.3053000
    If it's okay for a man to marry a man, why can't a woman have two husbands or a man have two wives? (With concent of all concerned parties ofcourse)
    Homosexuals are trying to include themselves in a sacred ritual that by definition excludes them. Leave marriage alone.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:12 No.3053003
    i'm loving how niggers are reacting to this.the civil rights act was clearly a stupid move.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:13 No.3053019
    If Obama had any balls at all, he would have done this a week ago, rallied the black churches in NC and defeated the amendment. Leadership is just something he can't ever make himself do.

    Ass.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:13 No.3053027
    >>3053000
    >sacred ritual
    Only in america and Allah Akcbar countries though. The rest of the world doesn't give a fuck.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:13 No.3053031
    >>3053000
    gb2africa
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:13 No.3053032
    >>3053019
    >b'aaaawwwww!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:14 No.3053038
    >>3052758
    >>3052746

    Not that poster, but...

    I'm on here 2-3 times a week. just turned 45.

    Deal with it, son.
    Nostalgia threads on /g/, usually turn up at least a half-dozen guys in their 50's. The internet's not as new as you think.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:14 No.3053040
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    Some arguments in this thread.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:14 No.3053043
    >>3053000
    >If it's okay for a man to marry a man, why can't a woman have two husbands or a man have two wives? (With concent of all concerned parties ofcourse)
    logically speaking there is no reason why consenting adults shouldnt be able to sign contracts with each other.

    >Homosexuals are trying to include themselves in a sacred ritual that by definition excludes them. Leave marriage alone.
    oh yes the great sacred ritual of tax breaks and contracts that allow for joint ownership of property.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:15 No.3053049
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    >>3053000

    >SACRED RITUAL
    >SACRED RITUAL
    >SACRED RITUAL
    >SACRED RITUAL
    >SACRED RITUAL
    >SACRED RITUAL

    Oh god, get a load of this faggot! Our 50% divorce rate suuuuuuuuure makes this marriage business "sacred", huh?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:15 No.3053050
    Never forget, the black vote is what caused gay marriage to fail in California (look it up). Thank god for these negro savages, they're good for something after all.
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    >>3053043
    > the great sacred ritual of tax breaks and contracts that allow for joint ownership of property.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:15 No.3053063
    >>3053049
    >50%
    Actually, I heard it's closer to 2/3 now.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:16 No.3053074
    >>3053000
    This
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:16 No.3053076
    >>3052797
    are you lying or stoopid?
    it is a shoop from the dailyKOS
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:16 No.3053078
    >>3053019

    >what is political strategy

    You know, Lincoln didn't give a fuck about freeing the slaves until it was politically (and militarily) advantageous for him to do so.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:16 No.3053083
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    The bad news for Obama is that Keith Judd, Inmate No. 11593-051, serving a 210-month sentence at the Beaumont Federal Correctional Institution in Texas, also outperformed the president’s 2008 West Virginia primary showing.
    Judd, who lists himself as a “Rastafarian-Christian” and his career as “Founder, World Peace Through Musical Communications Skills,” took 41 percent of the vote among West Virginia Democrats and carried 10 counties.
    ---------------------------
    THis guy gets at east one delegate. Any /pol/ack in West Virginia want to go to a convention? Here's your chance.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:17 No.3053087
    >>3052133
    >accept

    *except
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:17 No.3053089
    Ron Paul 2012 - it's happening!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:18 No.3053100
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    >Nation in ruin
    >Economy on the verge of collapse
    >Only thing people care about is whether or not gay people should be able to get married

    Fucking plebs voting based on their emotions
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:18 No.3053102
    >>3053078
    Not strictly true -- Lincoln was an abolitionist of long standing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:18 No.3053108
    >>3053102
    >lincoln
    >abolitionist

    This is what liberals and blacks really want to believe :/
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:19 No.3053114
    >president
    >power to do anything
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:20 No.3053121
    >>3053108

    It worked out pretty good in the end though. Isn't that all that really matters?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:20 No.3053122
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    >>3053100

    Welcome to America. The rich don't want us focusing on important issues, they have to bring these closeted bigotry ones up instead.

    Where the fuck is easy space travel and a moon base and all that shit? Fuck you reality.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:20 No.3053124
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    BUT BUT BUT-- TWO CONSENTING ADULTS!!!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:20 No.3053130
    >>3053114

    It's like, symbolic n' shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:21 No.3053150
    >>3053124

    I don't understand your argument.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:22 No.3053156
    >>3053049
    I didn't know /pol/ had so many fags...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:22 No.3053171
    >>3052000
    you're wrong about the jews. reform supports samesexmarriage, or leave it up to the individual rabbi. conservative have a "commitment" ceremony. Only orthodox are totally against.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:23 No.3053180
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    >>3053156

    I didn't know /pol/ had so many fags locked and barricaded in the closet...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:23 No.3053184
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:24 No.3053201
    >>3053171

    >Probably
    I wasn't sure. Thanks though.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:25 No.3053204
    >>3053184
    lol, has no place ITT, but thank you.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:26 No.3053223
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    Remember to vote Obama.

    He'd never lie to you, just like he would never lie about not signing the NDAA and using the holidays as a cover.

    He'd never change his positions or lie or anything. Nope, not at all.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:26 No.3053227
    >>3053078
    But if you are going to come out for this, take the hit, energize whoever you energize -- all of that is the same if he did it yesterday, and maybe he'd also look like a serious leader, you know, courageous.

    Now, how man pro-gay-marriage folks just see him as an opportunist who waited until he couldn't help them to come out on their side? How much of the base he wanted to energize is looking at him in confused anger?

    If he did this a week ago, the positives and negatives he faces doing it today would have been more weighted in his favor.

    His campaign is just inept.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:27 No.3053240
    I'm fucking tired of homosexuals and their shit. Wish we could just deport them to sweden or some other liberal shithole.
    >> Real Liberal !!9HixxlQIM2g 05/09/12(Wed)17:28 No.3053254
    >>3050852
    >politicising equal rights
    Very true. Social issues shouldn't be approached in this way – it should be an issue for all parties, and any party that claims to support freedom or civil liberties should seek to protect such.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:29 No.3053272
    >>3053240
    goddamn son you just went full retard
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:30 No.3053281
    >>3053204
    theres tons of evidence showing the increase in the number of youths choosing to be gay and its correlation with this country going further into debt
    its no surprise that the president supports them
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:31 No.3053306
    >>3053240
    Or you could move to countries where your kind is well accepted and your values will forever be respected.Like Iran or Pakistan.Civil rights are a travesty.Let's follow the example of the middle east and the whole african continent.They know how it's done.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:31 No.3053310
    >>3053227

    Actually, I think when everything is said and done, people will vote for him anyway. Sure, it's a pretty insincere move, but you better believe he'll have to make good on this if he's reelected.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:31 No.3053313
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    >>3053240
    What is it about homosexuals "shit" that you don't like?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:31 No.3053316
    >>3053100
    Dude, have you ever been to a wedding? Marriages cost a metric shitload. Guaranteed way to pump some money into the economy.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)17:31 No.3053320
    Well, this is good and bad. Good because it stirs up the fundies. Bad, because it guarantees that when Mitt wins, we're having a nationwide ban, maybe even criminalization of homosexuality depending on how riled up the fundies get.

    Also, it seems that foxnation hasn't gotten the memo yet. they marked it as "inspiring" with "offensive" coming in a close second, but still no major trolling. unless their mods are working overtime.
    >> Real Liberal !!9HixxlQIM2g 05/09/12(Wed)17:31 No.3053321
    >>3050876
    Government should never force a church to do that. In the US, they won't, and my understanding of your constitution would prevent any attempt to do so.

    I don't know of anyone, even the most outspoken gay rights people, who want to make churches marry people they don't want to. You're clouding what is really a simple issue with complete nonsense.
    >> Ludwig !9CUY39dDYo 05/09/12(Wed)17:32 No.3053326
    I'm still going to vote for Gary Johnson.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:33 No.3053348
    >>3052221

    exactly what i want, for gays to be treated the same, with no mention of gay marriage
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)17:33 No.3053350
    >>3053326
    my mum thinks he's the guy from NCIS
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:33 No.3053351
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bja2ttzGOFM

    >this thread
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:34 No.3053368
    >>3053348

    But... treating them the same necessitates leting them have full marriage rights.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:35 No.3053379
    >>3053348
    so basicly, ignore the 1100+ rights that gays don't get, put out some inspirational videos to try to curb suicide, and pat yourself on the back for being the moral victor, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:36 No.3053407
    hes just saying it cuz he needs the faggots to vote for him
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:37 No.3053424
    IT'S OVER OBAMA IS FINISHED
    ALL HAIL RON PAUL XD

    >is anyone really surprised he'd endorse it?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:38 No.3053442
    >>3053313
    >>3053306
    >>3053272
    Your butthurt is delicious.
    Btw although mariage is a right, mariage by definition is a union between a man and a woman, Therefore homosexuals do not have a right to marry their samesex partners. Take your hippy bullshit to europe.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:38 No.3053443
    >A politicians stance of gay marriage affecting your vote
    Pathetic that you let such small, non-important issues decide who you vote for
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:39 No.3053469
    >>3053442
    >typical conservative
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:40 No.3053482
    >>3053442

    "By definition" my ass. By who's definition? Yours? The bible's?

    >conservative logic
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:40 No.3053485
    >murka
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:41 No.3053502
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    >>3053351

    >That video

    That shit's funny.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:41 No.3053512
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    >>3053442
    >mariage by definition is a union between a man and a woman,

    Meet my friends, mirriam and webster. they know some shit about definitions.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:43 No.3053529
    HURRRR FLIP FLOPPER!!!

    >Upon consideration of what freedom should be and that gays should be afforded the same rights as myself, I now support gay marriage.

    Right at election time!! POLITICIZATION!!!

    >I have decided to take a stand at a time that is very critical, despite the risk involved.

    >>3050805

    No, he didn't, retard.

    >>3050832

    Atheist? I wish. It would be an improvement on the evangelical fucktards that don't know how to run a country. inb4pseudo intellectual

    >>3050940

    Obama did a 360? So his views didn't change? In any case, that's a huge difference between what Romney was saying during the election and what he's promised lately.
    ITT: Proof that conservatives are butthurt cynics.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:43 No.3053536
    >>3053512
    >>3053442
    OH SNAP
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:43 No.3053548
    >>3053512

    ...and as we all know, the definition of a word, can never change, ever.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:45 No.3053569
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    Oh that Shep, must be always awkward over there

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bn-WG7nwsZk
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:45 No.3053570
    >>3053442

    >they can marry! just not gay marry!

    Way to be an aspie fucktard. You do know that they're fighting to be able to marry who they WANT to marry, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:45 No.3053576
    >>3053548
    EXACRY MY PRAN.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:45 No.3053591
    >>3052714

    women are naturally bisexual, and more sexually fluid than men. it was a survival mechanism for when women in the past couldnt get a mate, they would help another woman with their baby, because its not like women back then could say no

    and this is not from wikipedia, rather my college human sexuality class

    and no im not citing wikipedia
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:47 No.3053611
    I once used a special Linux distro to marry an 80GB harddrive to my xbox and no one bitched at me about sanctity or tradition.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:47 No.3053620
    >>3053591
    >women are naturally bisexual, and more sexually fluid than men.

    Translation: they'll fuck anything that moves.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:47 No.3053625
    Gays are 3% if the population, why would Obama do this? The fags don;t matyer enough demographically to be worth pissing off the blacks and Hispanics.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:48 No.3053637
    >>3053625
    >Gays are 3% if the population
    >citation needed
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:48 No.3053645
    >>3053570
    I love my cat to death. Herp. Why won't the state let me marry her? Derp.
    Fucking intolerant conservatives...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:49 No.3053660
    >>3053645
    silly billy I just did.

    mazel tov!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:50 No.3053662
    GUYS HE MEANT HAPPY PEOPLE SHOULD BE MARRIED NOT PEOPLE WHO CHOSE TO BE HOMOSEXUAL
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:50 No.3053663
    >>3053625
    critical theory, bro
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:50 No.3053664
    >>3053645

    The cat can't sign a contract she can't even read or comprehend, cat fucker.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:50 No.3053667
    homosex marriage under government i assume.

    not homosexual marriage under an abrahamic/other religious (with dogma against queerism) church?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:50 No.3053671
    >>3053625
    BAHAHAHAH
    also
    >implying that people will talk about their sexuality with pollsters
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:50 No.3053675
    What possible fucking harm could letting gays get married pose?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:50 No.3053677
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    >>3053645
    Cats cannot enter into legal contracts.
    I, for one, do not want to get sued by my cats for being late with the Fancy Feast.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)17:50 No.3053679
    >>3053645
    >I love my cat to death. Herp. Why won't the state let me marry her? Derp.

    Because consent.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:52 No.3053706
    >>3051478
    >I don't believe in the concept of "rights."

    Fantastic, leave.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:52 No.3053707
    I have four words for you:

    Gerard van den Aardweg
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:52 No.3053709
    >>3053671
    Really jackass? Really? Fags are maybe 3% of the populace, this shit will kill him with the Cubans in Florida,who are arguably the most important demographic in the nation.
    BTW if gay marriage is spo popular why has it never been approved by the voters? Why is it consistently banned? Making gay marriage an is stupid.
    I was going to vote for Obama but fuck that, at least Romeny will stop the fags from getting married
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:53 No.3053710
    >>3053675
    umm lets see
    >increase in spreading of STDs if we suddenly become more tolerant of their kind
    >lower morals of the nation
    >the more gays that have come out has increased right along with the national debt hmmmmmm

    please keep the rainbow out of my red white and blue
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:53 No.3053714
    >>3051631
    Someone is very mad.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)17:53 No.3053722
    >>3053709
    >Fags are maybe 3% of the populace

    again, source?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:53 No.3053724
    >>3053637

    more like 5-10% again, human sexuality class
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:53 No.3053726
    Why is 'fags getting married' such a big deal to everyone?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:53 No.3053730
    >>3053675
    Homosexuality is poisomn, it robs men of their manhood and makes women into bull dykes. Society needs clear roles and distinctions.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:54 No.3053736
    >>3053709
    jesus, calm down the gays are not out to get you
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:54 No.3053739
    >>3053726
    It's a very big deal i America and the middle east. They take that shit seriously.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:55 No.3053749
    if we legalize gay marriage i hope the taliban end us all
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:55 No.3053750
    >>3053679
    >>3053677
    So you're saying that in the hypothetical situation that my cat was intelligent and could give consent... I'd have a case?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:55 No.3053751
    >>3053710
    >increase in spreading of STDs if we suddenly become more tolerant of their kind
    [Citation Needed]
    >lower morals of the nation
    >Morals
    Get the fuck out. How about divorce, political corruption and greed running rampant in our soceity. Letting gays get married doesn't make our country any less moral.
    >the more gays that have come out has increased right along with the national debt hmmmmmm
    What? Correlation does not equal causation.

    You're an idiot.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:55 No.3053753
    >>3053710
    >>increase in spreading of STDs if we suddenly become more tolerant of their kind

    Because marriage = increased sex, right?

    Singlefuck spotted.

    >>lower morals of the nation
    Singlefuck who has never been on spring break spotted.


    >>the more gays that have come out has increased right along with the national debt hmmmmmm

    Singlefuck, social shut-in, and retard.
    Confirmed for Chris-chan.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:55 No.3053758
    >>3053709
    because the only people that care about gay marriage are fundies,niggers and filthy latinos who constantly show up to vote for bullshit causes.3% of the population?Do you ever get out of your house?Are you fucking kidding me?
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)17:55 No.3053763
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    >>3053750
    Probably.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:56 No.3053769
    >>3053709

    Your priorities are kind of messed up. Apparently other people that you don't even interact with getting married is more important to you than economic policy.

    Wonderful.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:56 No.3053776
    >>3053750
    Probably. People get married to their cars and shit all the fucking time. Why not.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:56 No.3053778
    http://thetruthsetsyoufree.wordpress.com/
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)17:57 No.3053784
    >>3053758
    dude, it's a troll. quit being a fucking buffet.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:57 No.3053786
    can gays procreate? no? then they are just failed humans who should have no rights
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:57 No.3053787
    >>3051107
    Nope.
    That 10% number comes from the bullshit Halsey sexuality studies, the 3% of americans who are lbgt is 3% and most of the freaks are college girls fucking other women for attention.
    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/study-shows-how-many-americans-are-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transge
    nder/news/2011/04/07/18551
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    >>3053710

    If anything makes me weep for the future, it's the fact that people like you exist.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:57 No.3053801
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    >>3053778
    >http://thetruthsetsyoufree.wordpress.com/
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:57 No.3053803
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    America cannot into actual political fucking issues, and gets worked up about this shit instead.

    Fucking hell.

    You have TRILLIONS of dollars of debt, a completely broken social system, and spiralling unemployment, but HURR GAY MARRIAGE IS THE REAL ISSUE HERE.

    This shit is the reason the world is so fucked. Always concentrating on minor non-issues and ignoring the real problems.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:58 No.3053806
    FIRST BLACK AND GAY PRESIDENT? WOW THIS NATION IS GOING TO SHIT
    I WONDER HOW BIG MICHAEL, I MEAN MICHELLE, IF THE TOP OR BOTTOM
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:58 No.3053809
    >>3053753
    >Singlefuck who has never been on spring break spotted.
    Love people like you who assume that everyone who is disgusted at sexual immorality does so because they've never gotten to experience it. I've done many things I'm not proud of in the sexual realm, and it's lead me to the conclusion that such a life is empty. Sow them wild oats, get your dick wet a few times and you'll see what I mean, little boy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:58 No.3053813
    >>3053730
    >robs men of their manhood and makes women into bull dykes

    [citation needed]
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:58 No.3053821
    >>3053758
    Yes, 3%. Again just because you know a bunch of fags doesn;t mean everyone does, you are just using an unrepresentative sample. In addition I bet you are in college and have a bunch of dykes until graduation around.
    Most faggots normalize after college.
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    reason why they want to approve gay "marriage":

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fQoGMtE0EY
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:59 No.3053832
    >>3053803
    can't we just bomb china to get out of debt?
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)17:59 No.3053834
    >>3053786
    then why should the elderly, the barren, clergy of the church, children, or virgins?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)17:59 No.3053836
    >>3053821
    >Most faggots normalize after college

    And most Republicans fag up after their terms are over. Fuck off.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:00 No.3053841
    >>3053749

    I'm sorry to hear that you'd rather die than let allow other people (who you've never met in your life) to do what they want with their lives without legalized discrimination.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:00 No.3053851
    >>3053809
    >Love people like you who assume that everyone who is disgusted at sexual immorality does so because they've never gotten to experience it

    >Sow them wild oats, get your dick wet a few times and you'll see what I mean, little boy.

    Oh you.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:01 No.3053860
    >>3053813
    lol Have you met the dykes and fairies? Those people are useless. The men are hysterical half men and the women have a bull dyke penis envy mentality.
    This all arises because they are all mentally ill and should be getting treatment
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:01 No.3053863
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    >>3053821
    >3%.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:01 No.3053867
    >>3053750

    Yes.

    I wouldn't give a single fuck what you'd do with your cat wife if she were intelligent and self-aware enough to agree to a contract, but that's clearly not the case.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:01 No.3053868
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    Take this shit to >>>/b/
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:02 No.3053874
    What a fucking cunt.
    Obama couldn't care less about gay people. In fact that is why he waited so long to even say anything about the matter. He only cares now because he reelection hangs in the balance.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:02 No.3053878
    also why the fuck does this need to be stickied? were their 50 threads or some shit? seems like a libtard mod advertising for his favorite candidate like a fag
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:02 No.3053880
    >>3053834
    >elderly
    completely agree, need a way to remove them from society
    >everyone else
    none of those a permanent and could end up procreating, unless of course they decide to be gay in which they should also be removed from our society
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:02 No.3053881
    >>3053860
    confirmed for not having met any 'dykes and fairies'
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    >demand tolerance
    >act intolerantly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Za0ZvliA3AM
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:03 No.3053896
    >>3050832
    no pls
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:03 No.3053899
    what can obama even do as president, isnt gay marriage a state thing?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:03 No.3053901
    >>3053836
    do ho ho ho Mad faggot dected. Are you mad ytou r family disowned you after they found out what a shameful faggot their son was? Do you miss family get togethers? Maybe get some help and be normal; you have an outside chance of regaining your manhood if you start now.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:03 No.3053910
    >>3053880
    Being gay, according to the right, isn't permanent either, so they don't fall under your logic since they can become un-gay and procreate. or sperm banks.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:04 No.3053915
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:05 No.3053927
    >>3053874

    Duh.

    Who cares though? Him getting reelected = much higher chance of homosexual marriage being legalized.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:05 No.3053929
    >>3053863
    Here you go.
    A new study by The Williams Institute of the UCLA School of Law asks, “How many people are lesbian, gay, bisexual, and transgender?,” and shows that almost nine million American adults – close to 4% of the American adult population — identify as gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender, and breaks down those numbers.
    http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/study-shows-how-many-americans-are-gay-lesbian-bisexual-transge
    nder/news/2011/04/07/18551
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:05 No.3053933
    Mitt has the Evangelist in the bag.

    Obama dun goofed.

    Unless there are more gays than Evangelist, in which case Obama made a smart move
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:06 No.3053944
    >>3053874
    At best this is a wash for him and at worst it hurts his chances at reelection. If he's trying to pander, he's doing it wrong. You're supposed to pander to INCREASE your chances, not hurt them.

    I'm lol'ing at all the people saying this. The facts just don't back it up.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:07 No.3053957
    Obama is a homo.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:07 No.3053968
    >>3053944
    Obama could come out gay and minorities would vote for him
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:07 No.3053970
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    Why is this news?

    None of you knew this?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:07 No.3053971
    >>3053933

    Evangelists wouldn't have voted for Obama anyway, and they didn't do so last election.

    He still won.

    This is going to make the election more interesting, to be sure.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:08 No.3053976
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    >>3053929
    could have just gone right to the study instead of dicking around with some blog.

    An estimated 19 million Americans (8.2%) report that they have engaged in same-sex sexual behavior and nearly 25.6 million Americans (11%) acknowledge at least some same-sex sexual attraction.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:08 No.3053989
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    >Check my Facebook
    >Naive libtards all praising Obama and saying what a good man he is

    This is the worst shit
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:09 No.3053992
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    Are there seriously people who still believe the falsity that homosexuality is a choice? You don't choose to be straight or gay. You are what you are. You can't help it.

    This place is nearly as bad as Foxnews.com. I'm making the rounds seeing what all the different communities are saying about it. It's revealing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:09 No.3053996
    http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2881754/posts
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:09 No.3054005
    Everybody knows the only point in approving gay "marriage" is to force churches to perform gay "weddings", legalize paedophilia, and so on in order to destabilize society and allow for the communist revolution to begin.

    This is not even conspiracy theory guys, this is just Frankfurt school. It's written on their books. Read Horkheimer, Marcuse, Gramsci and so on.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:10 No.3054007
    >>3053992
    GTFO YOU LIBERAL NIGGER/FAGGOT LOVER
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:10 No.3054013
    >>3050967
    GUYS Look away from EVERYTHING and look back here ok now that you're looking here at my golden throne don't you see that everything is amazing on this side? Yeah I thought so- no don't look away at all the shit piled up on the sides of it look right at the throne. Don't look away.

    >Republicans
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:10 No.3054017
    >>3053899
    >>3053899
    >>3053899
    what can obama even do as president, isnt gay marriage a state thing?
    >>3053899
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:10 No.3054023
    >>3053992

    read Gerard van den Aardweg
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:11 No.3054024
    >>3053976
    But that 8.2% includes the 4 % who id as gay, and the 11% that admit to same sex attraction is meaningless really, as they had the moral willpower to not become moral degenrates. Try to juke the numbers all you like but I would like to add that the 4% also counts bisexual women. Why is it so hard to believe a mental disorder only has about a 4% prevalence rate?
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:11 No.3054026
    >>3053992
    >Are there seriously people who still believe the falsity that homosexuality is a choice?
    >falsity

    What he bloomin' fuck is a "falsity"?
    But yes.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:11 No.3054029
    not doing or saying shit about gays your entire 3 and a half year term till you are tied in the election polls

    hahaha liberals are you serious hahahaha
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:11 No.3054030
    >>3053989

    I wanted him to win anyway, but yeah, I get the feeling that popular internet social sites will become very annoying.
    >> Ludwig !9CUY39dDYo 05/09/12(Wed)18:11 No.3054032
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    >>3053880
    >DURR IF YOU CAN'T PROCREATE YOU'RE WORTHLESS
    >MUH HERITAGE MUH WHITE RACE

    Fuck, you fascists disgust me. You do realize that Nietzsche, Andy Warhol, and Paul Erdos (to name a few) likely died virgins? You realize that in 800 years your share of your progeney's genetic code will be less than one base pair? Do you realize how utterly simplistic and retarded the worldview that "ANYONE WHO WON'T FUCK DESERVES TO BE BANISHED" is?

    No, you don't, becuase you're a buttflustered, parochial, myopic fundie with a mental handicap.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:11 No.3054037
    who cares? president can't and won't do anything about it anyway
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:11 No.3054038
    >>3053996
    Oh mother of god, thank you anon.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:12 No.3054047
    >>3053996
    >http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2881754/posts

    >"For Democrats, Blackness outweighs Religious Values."

    Ohboy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:12 No.3054054
    >>3053992

    Fuck off, reddit. We're trying to beat down stupid conservitards and you're not helping!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:12 No.3054056
    OBAMA
    GREAT PRESIDENT? OR GREATEST?

    I love this man
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:12 No.3054057
    >>3054024
    Sorry, you got shown up by your own source.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:13 No.3054060
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    >>3054026
    It's one of those fancy liberal words they teach you in college.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:13 No.3054065
    >>3054032
    Yet that tiny percentage is more than you will ever have, you buttfucking moron.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:13 No.3054070
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    why is this fucking stickied? who gives a flying fuck about gay marriage?
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:13 No.3054071
    >>3054056
    Not greatest. He lacks the sheer badassery of some of the ones from past years.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:14 No.3054077
    >>3054032

    you don't know the first thing about the islamic world takeover

    it's either procreate or get assimilated, bro
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:14 No.3054080
    >>3053899
    >>3053899
    >>3053899
    what can obama even do as president, isnt gay marriage a state thing?
    >>3053899
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    53899>>3053899>>3053899>>3053899>>3053899>>3053899>>3053899>&
    gt;3053899>>3053899>>3053899>>3053899
    quit ignoring me if this issue doesnt even matter tell me now
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:14 No.3054089
    >>3054060
    Goddamn them thar liberal colleges. I told them, the only words I need to know are Copenhagen, Winchester, and America.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:15 No.3054100
    So... He played the nigger card first time and now he's going for the fag card. Can't wait for Murrica to destroy itself under the weight of it's own stupidity.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:15 No.3054102
    >>3054077
    I know that's fictional. But there is a religious group in the United States today working to oppress non-believers and force their dogma on everyone else as law -- they are called Christians.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:16 No.3054115
    >>3054080
    he's just voicing his opinion. While it'll generate a bunch of buttfrustration on the right, it's about as influential as saying "I like caramel instead of chocolate on my ice cream".

    It changes nothing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:16 No.3054120
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    >>3053832
    We'd have to borrow money from China to pay for it.
    So no.
    Perhaps we should try marrying China, like in Firefly.
    Then this would be relevant.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:16 No.3054121
    >>3054071

    Giving the order to assassinate Osama was pretty badass. He also gave the order to kill a bunch of Somalian kidnappers to rescue American citizens a few years ago.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:16 No.3054122
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    Who gives a fuck?

    There are actual matters in the world like economy and joblesness and the utterly shit educational system as well as retarded wars.
    In fact i care about my pet cat more than i do about some gay population that constitutes less than 1% of the world population.

    Fuck this irrelevant shit.
    As far as im concerned, gay communities and gay shit is just one big giant RED HERRING.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:16 No.3054123
    >>3054047
    Keep going, it gets better.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:17 No.3054133
    >>3054057
    >>3054057
    >>3054057
    No, no I didn't. Only 4% of the population is gay or bisexual. I know that the wide range of STD's gays normally pass to each other can have cognitive side effects but the data is pretty clear if you apply yourself.
    Don;t bother responding BTW, I am not giving some thing who lost it's manhood any more of my time.
    FWIW I pity your family and especially your undoubtedly disappointed father.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:17 No.3054139
    >>3054070

    Only gay people and conservatives.

    Liberal people like me want to vote in favor of it to spite conservatives.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:17 No.3054144
    lol next thing we are going to allow furries to marry their fursuits or fursonas
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:18 No.3054149
    >>3054102

    you'd rather have the muslims?

    we let you do whatever you want between four walls, we just won't let you "marry", muslims OTOH will relentlessly pursue you

    your choice
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:18 No.3054156
    >>3054144

    Now you're just being silly.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:18 No.3054157
    Welp, that seals the deal for me: Romney 2012
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054169
    >>3054149
    I choose secularism.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054171
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054172
    next he'll make being muslim legal

    Sweden 2.0 just watch
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054174
    and before you know it neckbeards will be marrying robots and by that point all of the sane people will live in exile or gulags.

    rev up that rapture god
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054178
    >>3054133
    >Don;t bother responding BTW, I am not giving some thing who lost it's manhood any more of my time
    >Im' rite ur rong and there's nothing you can say so lalalalalala

    Maturity!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054179
    Honestly, Obama isn't going to do shit at the federal level, forty states are still going to amend their constitutions to make it illegal, this isn't really news, saging a sticky.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054182
    >>3054149
    I would rather have the muslims win than have gay marriage. I would convert and immediately organize fag drags.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054184
    and i continue to vote only for congressmen and not give a shit about the president
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:19 No.3054185
    >>3054169
    >implying secularism produces any civilization
    >apparently isn't aware of Europe
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:20 No.3054199
    >>3054182
    >have the muslims win

    What, are we playing them in the world series?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:22 No.3054225
    >>3054122
    >STOP CARING ABOUT THIS THERE ARE BIGGER ISSUES
    I'm sick of this argument for 3 reasons.

    >1. You're allowed to worry about more than one issue at a time.
    Look at that, I'm pissed about the economy AND about civil rights! I can express my opinion on both without any loss in voting efficiency!
    >2. This shit IS actually pretty fucking important.
    Equal rights is something I take pretty damn seriously, and I hope you do too. Should the blacks have not bothered with the Civil Rights Movement, because we had the bigger issue of the Cold War to deal with?
    >3. Gay marriage can help the economy.
    You're so concerned for the economy? There's your reason to care. Weddings are expensive as shit and pump money into the economy. As does buying houses and adopting children, which gay couples have an easier time doing when they're married. Will it solve the problem? Hell no, but why the fuck not take a step?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:22 No.3054228
    >>3054199
    I mean I would rather implement Sharia law than allow faggots to get married
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:22 No.3054234
    >>3054149
    False dichotomy. Not having any fairy tales is what I choose. I'm a humanist, I reject theocracy in all its forms.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:23 No.3054238
    >>3054182

    >teenager detected
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    >>3054225
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    >>3054171
    No gay marriage law enacted or proposed forces churches to perform gay weddings.

    It would be blatantly unconstitutional, not even in any sort of legal grey area.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:24 No.3054268
    >>3054225
    but but muh bible
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:25 No.3054274
    >>3054228
    Oh lord. "if I can't have laws based on the teachings of the bible I'll have laws based on the koran! Hurrrrrrrrdurdurdurdurdur"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:25 No.3054282
    7-9% of humans are homosexual or bisexual. It's not a choice, you're born that way just like being born heterosexual.

    Most arguments for discriminating against gays is religiously based and since our government must be agnostic according to the constitution those reasons are automatically invalid.

    Gays 1, bigots 0
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:27 No.3054306
    >>3054274
    >implying you can separate morality from religion
    >soon he's gonna try to legalize paedophilia, drugs, post-birth abortion
    >kill christians
    >accomplishment unlocked: communist state instated
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:27 No.3054308
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    >>3054225
    Agreed.

    If this isn't a big issue then why the hell are people getting their dick in a twist over it?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:28 No.3054314
    conservatives always need someone to hate, to distract them from hating themselves

    once everyone else is happy and free they will all kill themselves because there will be nobody left to legally discriminate against
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:28 No.3054317
    >>3054282
    of course being gay isn't a choice, its a reaction by the overall human consciousness to prevent overcrowding/overpopulation
    doesn't mean they need special rights/protections though
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:28 No.3054319
    >>3054282
    False. Read Gerard van den Aardweg.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:28 No.3054323
    >>3054306
    >>implying you can separate morality from religion

    Did you have morals before you became religious?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:29 No.3054340
    >>3054282
    > 7-10
    Once more, that is not anything like what the datat reveals, unless you are lumping in bisexuals.
    Exclusiverly gay is about 9 million people, or roughly 4%
    BTW Fag: That scoreboard? that 40 for normals ( bannig gay marriage) and 0 for gays ( who can't get social approval for their depravity and instead have to use legal tricks and the democratic party to sanction their sick unions)
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:29 No.3054343
    >>3054317
    >to prevent overcrowding/overpopulation

    Pretty sure when I'm having my ass powed, the last thing going through my mind is population.

    I'm doing it because it fucking feels great.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:30 No.3054357
    >>3054343
    of course you don't think about it, its natural
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:30 No.3054358
    >>3054323

    course not

    a baby doesn't know whether it's right or not to kill or whatever

    he'll forcefully try to take away a toy from another baby's hands, for instance

    you should not pretend there are no peoples who practice cannibalism, infanticide, rape, und so weiter...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:31 No.3054360
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    why do you pussies even care if gays get married? Im sick of the bitching, stop acting like ladies with pms.

    Same with abortion and birth control for women. The majority of women in this country are pro-choice and love their birth control.

    Deal with it.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:31 No.3054363
    >>3054340
    Cool story. Show me where in the constitution it gives anyone the right to ban marriage based on perceived morality.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:32 No.3054377
    >>3054317
    >overpopulation
    >real
    http://overpopulationisamyth.com/
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:32 No.3054381
    >>3054358
    >a baby doesn't know whether it's right or not to kill or whatever

    jesus, what kind of babies do you live around?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:32 No.3054387
    >>3054306
    >implying you can separate morality from religion
    You can. Maybe read up on some of the last 300 years of philosophy. This has already been solved. Debate is over. You lost.
    >soon he's gonna try to legalize paedophilia, drugs, post-birth abortion
    Pedophilia involved minors. Minors can't consent. Non-starter. Drugs SHOULD be legal. Post-birth abortion is called murder and it's already illegal. Mothers can give up babies no questions asked so why would anyone ever want to newborn?
    >kill christians
    Kill Christianity, slowly, but making it harder and harder to be a bigot and getting people to see how backward religion is.
    >accomplishment unlocked: communist state instated
    Communism is a superior and inherently fair and righteous form of political-economy which will eventually supplant the repression of capitalism.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:33 No.3054388
    >>3054317
    This is a pretty fucking stupid myth. There's no "consciousness" that can monitor overpopulation, stop believing everything on the internet you assclown
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:33 No.3054389
    >>3054363
    Show me where in the constitution it says marriage is two sickos of the same gender wanting to get married so that they can have a child to molest. You can;t you sick faMaybe you could form better arguments if you weren't so tired from sitting up all night sewing quilts for your AIDS ridden friends.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:33 No.3054399
    >>3054389
    closet homosexual detected
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:33 No.3054402
    >>3054381
    >29yo fat gamer
    >ever been around children
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:34 No.3054409
    >>3054381

    well, after that I'm pretty sure you have never had to raise any children

    it's been fun discussing with you, thank u for letting me win
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:34 No.3054412
    >>3054389
    priests rape children you realize this right?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:35 No.3054426
    >>3054388
    yeah, overpopulation isn't even actual, it's been proven to be false
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:35 No.3054434
    >>3054389

    Woah, nigga. You're pretty riled up about this.

    Maybe you need a dick in your ass to quell that butthurt.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:36 No.3054436
    >>3054389
    >Show me where in the constitution it says marriage is two sickos of the same gender wanting to get married so that they can have a child to molest.

    take out "marriage" and you just described the catholic presithood. But argumentum ad absurdum.
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    >>3054389
    Do you honestly believe gays want to get married to molest children or is that just your fantasy?
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:36 No.3054447
    >>3054409
    >well, after that I'm pretty sure you have never had to raise any children

    Worked seven years in a mall in the food court area. Don't want any.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:36 No.3054450
    stickys are for faggots
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:36 No.3054452
    >>3054426
    I don't give a shit about that. Human population is clearly growing, of corse, because of advancement in medicine, but that's another issue. No part of our biology is "conscious" about these issues. Fucking stupid. The gay gene is only a theory as well.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:37 No.3054458
    >>3054426
    Overpopulation doesn't mean something like there's not enough room for people to stand shoulder to shoulder ont he Earth's surface. Duh, there's lots of physical space, but it's not just about how much room people take up physically. It's about resources. The Earth IS overcrowded if you want everyone to have the standard of living of a Westerner. There isn't enough resources to do it, thus overpopulated.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:37 No.3054466
    >>3054399
    NBTW Anyone else ever notice that Gays have the same muh dick argument that niggers use? Instead of Muh dick it's Muh asshole
    >>3054412
    So do gays, they can;t procreate so they have to recruit. BTW I am also opposed to priests or any other sicko being around children.
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    If anybody truly hates gays they are trying suppress their own urges to suck on dick and drink cum.

    proven fact
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:38 No.3054473
    >>3054436
    >implying the catholic paedophiles weren't gay
    >implying they were even a statistically significant portion of the priesthood
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:38 No.3054478
    >>3054434
    Hey faggots: Just because someone likes you doesn;t mean they want to fuck you. Maybe, just maybe, you sicken people
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:38 No.3054479
    >>3054466
    They don't recruit. Gays are made by heterosexual parents having gay offspring. It happens.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:39 No.3054488
    >>3054466
    >So do gays
    According to FBI statistics 95% of child molesters are straight men
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:39 No.3054495
    >>3054479
    and it's fixable: http://www.amazon.com/The-Battle-Normality-Therapy-Homosexuality/dp/0898706149
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:39 No.3054496
    >>3054458
    >>The Earth IS overcrowded if you want everyone to have the standard of living of a Westerner

    Most of the overcrowding is in shitholes like africa and india. The west has no problem with their continued life style.
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    >gays get the same tax breaks normal married couple gets
    >tax breaks for married couples are there to help them support offspring and promote continued breeding
    >new workers pay for all the social welfare programs we have for the elderly

    fucking communists trying to destory our country by giving handouts to niggers and gays
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:39 No.3054501
    >>3054473
    >>implying the catholic paedophiles weren't gay
    They're not, just told by their wholy bibble to not do girls.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:40 No.3054506
    This president is da best
    Killed Osama
    freed the gays
    handled financial crisis like a BAWS
    ended american involvement in Iraq
    GOAT Prez if you ask me.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:41 No.3054525
    >>3054466
    you do realize the catholic church has covered up thousands of cases over the course of decades by simply relocated priests through the archdiocese, right?

    Ontop of that, youre obviously fucking retarded, relating homosexuality and pedophilia is like autism to down syndome
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:42 No.3054537
    >>3054525
    >relating homosexuality and pedophilia is like autism to down syndome

    My mum does that.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:42 No.3054542
    >>3054495
    Which is why those re-education camps sport a wonderful and perfectly healthy suicide rate! Completely successful brainwashing you got going there!
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:43 No.3054550
    I view gays the same way as I view pedophiles and zoophiles, they're people with some sort of brain defect that makes them desire deviant sex.

    There's absolutely no difference between them except for the fact that homosexuality involves two consenting adults meaning that there's no reason for it to be illegal. As far as what they do, it's the same to me if a grown man fucks another man and if he fucked a 6 year old or his poodle.

    Sickos, all of them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:43 No.3054552
    >>3054495

    >textbook brainwashing is a totally cool way to make people think the way you do
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:43 No.3054556
    this is a state issue
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:44 No.3054569
    >>3054498

    You've already proven you extremely misguided bigotry, faglord. Congrats.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:44 No.3054570
    >>3054542
    Cause faggots never off themselves right? No one ids less suicide prone than the totally mentally sound gay community.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:45 No.3054583
    >>3054525

    >relating homosexuality and pedophilia is like autism to down syndome

    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/pedophilia-a-sexual-orientation-experts-tell-parliament

    at least you acknowledge that homosexuality is a pathology
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:46 No.3054587
    Marriage shouldn't even exist in a free society, whether heterosexual or homosexual. Homosexuality is better for humanity because it leads to less world pollution. So if you're tree hugger take one in the ass once in a while to actually practice your religion.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:46 No.3054590
    >>3054570
    That social stigma and berating you surround them with daily sure is helping!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:46 No.3054591
    >>3054498
    could be wrong but im pretty sure there are tax breaks for marriage and tax breaks for having kids
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:46 No.3054597
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    >>3054550
    To be fair, homosexuality exists in many animals, but that doesn't make it less of an error.

    Life exists to procreate. Homosexuality removes the desire to mate with one of the opposite gender. This is irrefutably and empirically a defect, and it's funny how the bleeding heart and science loving liberals just can't acknowledge this.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:46 No.3054598
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    >ITT right wingers trying to justify their hatred for homosexuals isnt from a place purely of hatred.

    >Afterwards they will have their girlfriend or wife peg and snowball them
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:47 No.3054606
    Obama takes it up the ass.

    I hope this bitchboy loses the black vote now. black people should not tolerate a bitch-ass-nigga.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:48 No.3054617
    >>3054550

    and it's not illegal

    but apparently that is not enough for them, they want to "marry" as well

    of course that is just outright trickery, who's really behind this are the commies of the Frankfurt School
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:48 No.3054620
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    >>3054583
    >http://www.lifesitenews.com
    >right wing pro-life website
    and this ad was on the side, know all you stormfrontfags will love it.
    <---
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:48 No.3054622
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    >>3054550
    >someone does something I don't agree with
    >they're brain must be broken
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:48 No.3054624
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    >>3054570

    I wonder what the suicide rate for homosexuals would be if they weren't systematically ridiculed and hated by others, even by their own family?

    My guess is it would go down. How about that?

    Face it. You're a disgusting fascist cocksleeve who can't BEAR the thought that someone is different from you.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:48 No.3054625
    >>3054597
    Pretty damn harmless defect, and I don't see any reason to berate them for it. I'm gay and I've got two heterosexual brothers, neither of whom wants kids. By your logic they're just as defective as I am.

    Oh, except that I've had a kid.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:48 No.3054634
    >>3054590
    It's always someone elses fault isn't it?
    This is why people believe gay men act like women, none of you cocksuckers can or will ever man up and accept responsibility
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:48 No.3054635
    I am amused by all the righty whites claiming MUH RELIGIOUS FREEDOM like morons in this thread. Constitutionally banning gay marriage is actually infringing on the rights of the many religions and Christian denominations that support it.

    Why do conservatives hate religious freedom so much?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:49 No.3054637
    >>3054583
    ok pedophilia is a sexual orientation? My sexual orientation is straight, does that make me a pedophile? you fucking idiot
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:50 No.3054666
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    >>3054625
    Yes, I don't blame anyone. I'm not mad at people with bad eyesight.

    >two heterosexual brothers, neither of whom wants kids. By your logic they're just as defective as I am.

    No, that's because they're able to rationalize and conceptualize abstractly. It comes with our frontal lobe: the ability to not follow our animalistic instincts. This is intrinsic, and has nothing to do with your sexuality.

    >Oh, except that I've had a kid.

    I don't see how that would matter to evolutionary biology.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:50 No.3054667
    I'm surprised he didn't already support gay marriage.
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:50 No.3054669
    >>3054634
    Speaking of accepting responsability, we're in the middle of an economic crisis, unemployment is up, hours are down...Hey, I know! Let's focus on moral and social issues instead!

    >GOP logic
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:52 No.3054688
    >>3054634
    No one lives in a vacuum.

    Tell you what, why don't we surround you with people who disagree with you and berate you for it daily? They'll tell you you're an abomination, that you're going to burn in hell, that your urges (that you had no choice in) are unnatural and you deserve to die for having them. Let's have your family throw you out of your house and disown you, and push for legislation making what you do illegal. Then, we'll blame you for causing the problem in the first place, and use it to justify treating you as a second-class citizen!

    Let's see how high your risk of suicide can get.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:52 No.3054692
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >>3047395
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:52 No.3054694
    >>3054597
    Except homosexual couples can reproduce, via in vitro fertilization. The kid will only have the genes of one of the partners, though.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:53 No.3054704
    >>3054624
    No idea, what would the suicide rate be for schizophrenics if they didn;t get the help then needed? The problem isn't society, the problem is that gays have a mental defect and the men tend to be hystewrical, leading to irrational decisions like suicide.
    I am further willing to bet that faggots use pills or other womanly methods of suicide as opposed to the mehtods actual men use, namely guns.
    If they go out like woman it would give us some insight into how their female like brain works
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:53 No.3054707
    >>3054597
    >the meaning of life is to procreate
    Lolno

    >homosexuality is an error
    Perhaps homosexuality fills a valuable voluntary population control niche.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:53 No.3054712
    This is in the same league of: "If I had a son he looked like Treyvon!"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:53 No.3054715
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    >>3054669

    yeah, except OBAMA was the one who brought it up, wasn't it?

    fucktard
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:53 No.3054716
    >>3054694
    Well I know of a lesbian couple who got in vitro with a donation from the other partner's brother, so that's SOME genetic material from both.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:54 No.3054723
    >>3051309
    >Washington
    Slave holder
    >Jefferson
    Slave holder
    >Madison
    Slave Holder
    >Monroe
    Slave holder
    >Patrick Henry
    slave holder

    need i go on?
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:55 No.3054742
    >>3054715
    >yeah, except OBAMA was the one who brought it up, wasn't it?

    >north Carolina has been going on for ages
    >DoMA
    >DADT
    >prop 8

    >obama brought it up

    Yeeeeah.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:55 No.3054745
    >>3054704
    >again, comparing schizophrenia to homosexuality

    holy fuck, could you grasp more straws? Is the common cold the same as leukemia to you too?
    >> Ash Crimson !!gAyq5lzi952 05/09/12(Wed)18:56 No.3054753
    >>3054745
    >holy fuck, could you grasp more straws?
    Give em 45 seconds.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:56 No.3054759
    >>3054707
    >Perhaps homosexuality fills a valuable voluntary population control niche.

    It's possible, but quite unproven. The fact that homosexuality still exists means that it isn't a gene, AND that it wasn't naturally selected for.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:56 No.3054765
    Since when did /pol/ have this many closeted homosexual? Fick this is wording me out. Because as science has proven, most homophobic men are repressing homosexual tendencies.

    Stay butthurt (you might enjoy it)
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:56 No.3054771
    >>3054694
    Yes, but that's because of technological advancement and interference with nature. Why must this argument always come up? It is completely irrelevant and I'm tired of it, don't you see how much of a fallacy it is?

    There's a lot to point out, but one quick thing:
    Homosexuality has always existed, but the option you listed has only been around for a few years. That's a really dumb argument, of course, but you're just debating semantics now.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:57 No.3054775
    >>3054715

    Where the fuck have you been for the last decade?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:57 No.3054779
    >>3051333
    Im actually a Paulbot, which is why I dont believe the state or some religious retards can tell a gay man he cant marry.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:57 No.3054781
    >>3054688
    Then stop doing it or man up you sissy bitch.I am free to openlysay how I feel and if it hurts your faggot feeling to the point you quit at life then that is is on you not me.
    If you were more of a man it wouldn't bother you but if you were more a man you wouldn't be gay in the first place.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:58 No.3054789
    >>3054225
    >Should the blacks have not bothered with the Civil Rights Movement

    Given what blacks have turned into from that respectable generation,
    and turned into retarded lazy fatass morons by majority they have,

    yeah, it wasn't worth bothering with just as this will turn out.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:58 No.3054797
    >>3054765
    > Muh asshole
    Gays are worse than niggers
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:58 No.3054802
    Hahaha

    FAGGOT NIGGER PRESIDENT HOMOBAMA

    nice job, faggot-America, real proud nation you are.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:58 No.3054803
    >>3054771
    Homosexuals could still have children without in-vitro fertilization. What usually happened were these men just had a secret life with their wives where they pounded men in the ass.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:58 No.3054804
    How could NC ban gay marriage if it was already illegal?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:59 No.3054812
    IT'S TOO LATE

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1E9Xq9uoIbA
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:59 No.3054825
    >>3054765

    are most racists black too
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:59 No.3054830
    >>3054803
    >Homosexuals could still have children without in-vitro fertilization.

    Yeah, we're lucky to live in such times. I just wonder how homosexuality fits into it all. It's probably one of the least harmful defects because of such technology, but it'll be interesting to see what we find out.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:59 No.3054832
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    http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/05/obama-the-theologian-invokes-christ-while-endorsing-unnatural-sexual-
    acts-same-sex-marriage-fr-z-rants/
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)18:59 No.3054834
    Homosexuality is a normal part of the human sexual spectrum, as natural as heterosexuality.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:00 No.3054836
    >>3054781
    Okay, that's your right to berate gays daily for something they never chose.

    But don't blame them when your words actually get to them, as you intended them to, and drive them to suicide.

    I'll be over here, not being a bigoted asshole who wishes death or misfortune on other people, trying to convince the more reasonable people of the world to stop being bigoted assholes.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:00 No.3054840
    >>3054745
    Bith are serious mental disorders that severely impact the happiness of a human.Being gay just has social sanction
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:00 No.3054849
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    >>3054781
    fine you know what mother fucker? maybe my faggot friends and i should come over and beat the ever living shit out of you for being such a cunt? Have them mess up your butthole real good just for the fuck of it, to the point where you have to shit in a bag the rest of your life.

    Lets see if you dont blow youre fucking head off then, alright?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:00 No.3054853
    >>3054765
    >homophobic men are repressing homosexual tendencies

    By that logic i am supressing the tendency to kill myself by falling from a building because i have phobia of heights.

    I can say that i like this suppression and will stay with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:01 No.3054856
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    >>3054704

    >comparing schizophrenia to homosexuality to compare suicide rates
    >"I am further willing to bet that faggots use pills or other womanly methods of suicide as opposed to the mehtods actual men use, namely guns."

    You must be legitimately insane. There is no other way to describe how much of a sociopathic fuck you are.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:01 No.3054866
    >>3054834
    yeah, cancer's natural too
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:01 No.3054872
    >>3054802

    Go away, Iran.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:02 No.3054885
    >>3054840
    are you fucking serious? They are called gay because they act FUCKING GAY ALL THE TIME. Do you have the vocabulary of a middle schooler? Are you smarter than a fucking 5th grader?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:02 No.3054886
    >>3054840
    If "happiness" is how you compare the two, then you should know that schizophrenics aren't happy being left alone, they aren't really happy in general.

    Homosexuals can easily be happy when they are treated just like you and me, so your point is moot.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:02 No.3054887
    >>3054840
    Except that psychiatrists have failed to find any sort of mental dysfunction or disorder in the homosexual brain. You know, those EXPERTS on the human brain and behavior?

    It was formerly in the DSM, but without basis. It had no scientific studies supporting it being a mental disorder, so when political pressure came crashing down on them, demanding that they remove it or explain themselves, they had no option but to remove it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:02 No.3054889
    Good job Obama you have my vote, though to be fair you had it since the campaigning started.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:02 No.3054890
    >>3054834
    True, it's natural and evident in many animals. I wonder if any other mental issues are prevalent in animals, haven't read much about it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:02 No.3054892
    >>3054849
    LOL
    All of your friends have probably offed themselves if you are over 25 so I am betting I am safe.
    What are you going to do, throw their aids infested corpse at me?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:03 No.3054900
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    So I guess this means Obama was doing so well in the polls that he had the nerve to defend something he doesn't even believe in order to make the playing field even against unelectable Republican candidates. Not that this handicap will make a difference. Democrats will win in a landslide again because Republican parents like mine are unwilling to trust the "secret combination of the _" Mormons. Also the "Fund for the Public Interest PIRG" is a scam, don't work for them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:03 No.3054903
    Pedophiles are todays fags. when are we going to see Pedo pride parades? new york already legalized their deviant practices of fapping to kiddie porn
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:03 No.3054907
    >>3054759

    it could be a developmental error.

    there are plenty of conditions that cause sterility or death before sexual maturity that continue to occur due to being recessive traits tied otherwise beneficial genes, or a natural mistake in the development of a fetus
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:03 No.3054915
    >>3054887
    It's probably not a mental illness, at least not in the way we classify them, but it IS an error since the meaning of life is to procreate.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:04 No.3054924
    Human sexuality is a spectrum and there's nothing on it that's "wrong" or incorrect. Homosexuality is just a natural variation in human sexuality. It is equal to heterosexuality.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:04 No.3054934
    >>3054887
    lemme guess, you support removing pedophilia from the DSM for some PC bullshit like they did with queers?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:04 No.3054937
    >>3054915

    there is no meaning of life
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:05 No.3054949
    >>3054892
    who the fuck says LOL still, what are you a faggot?

    And statistically you probably know plenty of gay people in your regular life on a daily basis. Maybe we'll have to hold you down and let the neighborhood run a train on you.

    Who knows though, we'll probably have to stop cause you'll like it, being the closet fucking faggot you are bitch
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:05 No.3054951
    >>3054934
    But pedophilia is a severe fetish that doesn't occur until later in life when one has developed sexually.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:05 No.3054952
    >>3054915
    What if it is a natural method of population? By having some percentage of the population being gay it ensures we never overpopulate a particular ecosystem. Perhaps it is not an error at all.

    Food for thought.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:05 No.3054954
    >>3054937
    Well, there's probably no meaning to intellectual life, but biological life sure as hell exists to procreate.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:06 No.3054959
    >>3054915

    True, it's an error. However, we don't deny rights to people born quadriplegic, so really, it's fucking stupid to deny equal rights to gays and lesbians.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:06 No.3054960
    >>3054887
    >Gerard van den Aardweg
    >not an expert
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:06 No.3054961
    >>3054952
    *population control
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:06 No.3054962
    >>3054937
    your genes being passed on means you 'win'.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:06 No.3054963
    >>3054934
    The difference is that minors cannot consent. I don't think there's anything wrong with being a pedophile either, but practicing pedophilia is wrong because by definition your partner wouldn't be able to consent to the act.

    That was easy. Try harder.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:07 No.3054968
    >>3054934
    If you cannot find a mental dysfunction in pedophilia, yeah, take it out of the DSM. Doesn't mean we should encourage it though.

    The difference is that homosexuals are mentally sound consenting adults, so there's no reason to interfere with what they do or deny them rights for it. Pedophilia involves harm done to a child who cannot consent, and therefore requires intervention.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:07 No.3054969
    >>3054951
    but homosexuality is a severe fetish that occurs in the mid teens from cumdumpsters rejecting betas
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:07 No.3054971
    >>3054952
    It's an interesting notion, but there has never been any evidence of such a "hivemind," I believe. Neat thought experiment, though one would need serious conscious intelligence to monitor such a thing across distances.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:07 No.3054972
    >>3054962
    Wow, one homophobic quack doing dubious and highly controversial research. Troll harder, nigger.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:07 No.3054974
    >>3054856
    You don;t think we could learn something comparing the different suicide methods different genders and sexualities use? Women almost always use poison ( vanity) Men almost always use guns or jumping ( surety)
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:07 No.3054985
    >>3054959
    they have the exact same rights as me. they have the right to get married to a person of the opposite gender; i also have that right. they do not have the right to get married, which i also do not have. your move.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:08 No.3054996
    >>3054951
    Nope. All real pedophiles will tell you they knew they were different from as early on as they can remember.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:08 No.3055001
    >>3054969
    The fact that you clearly have no idea what you are talking about with you dreamy thinking means you need to get off the computer and go read a book.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:08 No.3055007
    >>3054963
    you are a bigot for thinking pedos are not equal people with equal rights durr1!!1one1!

    a minor is fully capable of saying 'yes', yes?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:09 No.3055017
    Olive Garden: when you're here, you're queer, get used to it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:09 No.3055019
    >>3054963

    except that's not what we are discussing here

    we're talking about gay "marriage", not about gay sex

    also, don't deny the proven fact that cultural marxists intend to approve gay "marriage" just to destabilize society and paedophile "marriage" (they call it intergenerational "marriage", go figure) is just the next step and they are going to use the same shitty arguments they used to pass gay "marriage"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:09 No.3055021
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    All I read is that homosexuality is a symptom to a bigger psychological problem. Usually linked to those with co-dependency, bi-polar or suicidal tenancies.

    Trust me, I'm a doctor.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)19:09 No.3055023
    >>3054985
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:09 No.3055026
    >>3055007
    No, a minor is by definition incapable of rendering consent. That's what the definition of being a minor is.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:09 No.3055030
    >>3054949
    > muh asshole
    Your sasexual identity is all you have isn't it? on some level you recognize the sickness of it, that's why you use it as a way to threaten people.
    It must be sad to live your life fixated on an identity that is nothing but bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:10 No.3055044
    Okay, this is the deal. Pedophilia is as natural as homosexuality.

    The difference is that our culture perceives pedophilia as a horrible thing. This was not the case back in ancient cultures.

    Yes, it's obviously horrible when you think about the trauma involved, but that doesn't mean anything outside out moralistic views of the worlds. It has nothing to do in the realm of biology.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:11 No.3055048
    >>3054974

    Who. The fuck. Cares how people kill themselves??
    How does that matter? People shouldn't be killing themselves ANYWAY. What are you trying to fucking PROVE? That men who use "feminine" methods of suicide deserve it?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:11 No.3055052
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    If you can see something like this, disregard it and think, "I'd like some hairy man ass", you're fucking brain is screwed up.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:11 No.3055053
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    Shot the faggot paraders.
    Let the normal gays marry.
    Don't let them adopt children of their gender and let them be limited to the opposite (because we don't want to take risks over an already feminized shitty male population today that will soon start putting makeup by the way things are going an make all the historical manliness that ever existed roll in its grave).

    Oh and "equal rights".
    They don't exist in my book. You only have equal rights if you earn them through individual action and accomplishments (finish a respectable University or go the Bill Gates way, just accomplish something or show potential worthy of respect and rights), talking big and rhetoric like the Liberals like to do, doesn't cut it since any idiot can talk good and big.
    And being a part of some organization or movement doesn't equal accomplishment or show capability, it only shows you sided with some group which any idiot is capable of to shout loud but do nothing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:11 No.3055056
    >>3054996
    But you can't be classified as a pedophile until you are at least 16 years old and desire the sexual presence of somebody that is 5 years younger than you.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:11 No.3055057
    >>3055023
    THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO GET MARRIED THOUGH! JUST NOT TO FREDDY MERCURY! THEY HAVE THE EXACT SAME RIGHTS AS I DO!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:11 No.3055063
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    IN AMERICA THERE ARE LIKE 20 FUCKING STATES YOU CAN MARRY YOUR FIRST FUCKING COUSIN, PROBABLY IN FUCKIN NORTH CAROLINA IRONICALLY.

    TO TOP THAT EVEN MORE STATES WILL RECOGNIZE MARRIAGE BETWEEN TWO FIRST COUSINS IF IT OCCURRED IN A LEGAL STATE.

    APPARENTLY YOURE NOT COOL WITH FAGS MARRYING, BUT ALRIGHT WITH INCEST MUTANT RETARDS RUNNING AROUND.

    AWESOME.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:12 No.3055067
    >>3055056
    And you can't be classified as a homo when you're a toddler.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:12 No.3055068
    >>3055052

    wonky faced bitch. sorry i have standards.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:12 No.3055080
    >>3055019
    You can never lump same sex marriage with "pedophile marriage". They are not comparable. It's a strawman to try to equate the two. The only way that would work is to lower the AOC. 18yo is probably too old anyway, it's much lower in most of the world.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:12 No.3055083
    >>3055063
    That is the zeitgeist of America. I know it's hard to rationalize independently for many, but there are cultural implications and premises for these opinions.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:12 No.3055084
    >>3054985
    Why does every full-retard christfag on the internet repeat this ridiculous argument?

    Marriage is about marrying the person you love, period. Homosexuals are denied that opportunity.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:12 No.3055085
    >>3055044
    Would you acknowledge that a newborn infant is too young and mentally underdeveloped to understand sex, consent, and the implications both hold?

    Would you acknowledge that a 30-year-old is old and mentally developed enough to understand these things?

    Then you must acknowledge that at some point, a transition is made where the person can legally consent.

    Where we draw the line is fairly arbitrary, the best estimates we have place it sometime in puberty, but we have to draw the line SOMEWHERE, and in most states, that's the 16-18 year range.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:13 No.3055089
    >>3055067
    Yes, you can.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:13 No.3055091
    If gays fall for this one, they should be the first ones in the FEMA death camps. Why WASN'T he this outspoken about gay marriage the first time around? Now that he's losing some of his most loyal supporters due to him signing the NDAA when he was vehemently opposed to the Patriot Act then his supporters were like "don't worry he'll veto it". lol They got clowned.

    What wouldn't he say to get votes these days?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:13 No.3055092
    >>3055021
    >correlation = causation

    Nice internet degree there, "doctor".
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:13 No.3055094
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    >Originally Posted by Barack Obama, while running for US Senate in 2004
    "I’m a Christian. I do believe that tradition and my religious beliefs say that marriage is something sanctified between a man and a woman."

    >Originally Posted by Barack Obama, while running for US President in 2008
    "I believe marriage is between a man and a woman. I am not in favor of gay marriage."

    >Supporting Gay Marriage
    >Christian by any means
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:13 No.3055096
    >>3055048
    No, the thesis would be that Homosexual men have more female like brains and so use more feminine means of suicide.
    It would be useful in suicide porevention and helping save the lives of those who attempt suicide.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:14 No.3055104
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    >>3055063

    HUMANS
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:14 No.3055111
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    >>3055084
    >me
    >christfag
    ISHYGDTS
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:15 No.3055141
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    >>3055085
    >understand

    See, this is the point. Nature does not "understand."

    Sexuality is a pure biological function. It is not something sacred that exists in intelligent and wholly sentient life. You MUST regard sexuality COMPLETELY on the side of morality when questioning what's "natural," and this is fucking important to understand! It's the basis of debating these issues.

    Of course, we have huge moral issues related to our zeitgeist, but when you break all of it down to basic biology there's really no difference.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:15 No.3055143
    >>3055053

    Not in my country. Go to Somalia and you can ignore all the human rights you like.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:15 No.3055151
    it all really boils down to: does the majority of the population approve it?

    answer: no

    so no

    period.

    /thread

    /unsticky
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:16 No.3055153
    >>3050878
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    >>3050878
    All that matters.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:16 No.3055160
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    >>3055063
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    >>3055063
    >>3055063

    END. OF. ARGUMENT.

    YOU THINK HOMOSEXUALITY IS IMMORAL AND THE SAME AS MENTAL RETARDATION?

    HOW ABOUT IF YOUR PARENTS SHARED A FUCKING PARENT? FUCK OFF.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)19:16 No.3055167
    >>3055057
    If you read the case, the court says everyone has the right to marry, they don't say who. If you then look at the dictionary definition of marriage, it also doesn't say they must be of opposite genders.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:17 No.3055168
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    >>3055092
    Ok, you caught me. Yeah, I am totally not a doctor. But I play one on TV. Also Michael Jackson didn't visit my house, but his sister did! Also one time I tripped my grandmother so that she'd fall down the stairs and then I blamed it on the dog.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:17 No.3055173
    >>3055094

    >no real Christian can support gay marriage

    And all muslims are murderous childfuckers, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:17 No.3055177
    >>3055160
    Nope. It's all retarded.
    Next?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:17 No.3055181
    >>3055141
    Just because the human brain and the behaviors and knowledge it contains are complex and our biological knowledge of them is limited does not mean we should disregard them when discussing "nature." Psychology and sociology are just as useful in studying people as biology and chemistry.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:17 No.3055182
    >>3055151
    Most polls show it being split, with a slight majority favoring full equality of marriage. But it doesn't matter. We don't put civil rights to a vote. They are inalienable. We don't let states vote on having slavery either.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:18 No.3055185
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    >>3055173
    hes just going to say yes
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:18 No.3055188
    >>3055151
    That's not how this country works.

    The majority does not get to vote away the rights and liberties of other people.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:18 No.3055191
    >>3055151

    Actually, the new statistic is that over 60% of the American population approves.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:18 No.3055192
    >>3055167
    This does nothing to the point that fags have equal rights already. they have100% of the rights as the heterosexual man does.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:18 No.3055194
    >>3055063 IN AMERICA THERE ARE LIKE 20 FUCKING STATES YOU CAN MARRY YOUR FIRST FUCKING COUSIN, PROBABLY IN FUCKIN NORTH CAROLINA IRONICALLY.

    If I read the law right, yes, first cousins is the closest degree of consanguinity allowed here.

    I count 17 where first cousins can marry, 5 more where they can but with caveats.

    Ad now, your point is? Where would you draw the line?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:18 No.3055195
    >>3055143
    And not in my country will lazy fatass failures like you try pulling societies standards down with talk of arbitrary universal rights (that benefit your laziness) so it won't ridicule you for being a lazy incapable fuck.
    You can go off and pull your tactics in Africa.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)19:18 No.3055196
    >>3054985
    Also: Why do you even care if they get married anyway?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:18 No.3055198
    >>3054473
    >>3054501
    >>3054525

    You guys are missing the obvious: access. opportunity.

    Altar servers = altar BOYS, until maybe 25 years ago. It's still way more common to see boys in that role, than girls.

    Add to this, priest teaching in boys schools while nuns taught in girls schools, etc. Have to understand just how gender-segregated things were back then.

    Then figure, despite lack of access, fully one quarter of priest victims have been female.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:19 No.3055212
    >>3055188
    they have 100% of the same rights already.
    >>3055182
    constitution originally would have allowed it, before radial republicunts prevented the south from voting on the 13-15th amendments
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:19 No.3055215
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    >>3055053
    >any idiot can talk good and big
    >talk good and big
    >talk good

    Are you a graduate of The Derek Zoolander Center For Children Who Can't Read Good And Wanna Learn To Do Other Stuff Good Too?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:20 No.3055230
    >>3054887
    >psychiatry
    >science

    Pick one. Psychiatry is a fucking joke.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:20 No.3055234
    >>3055212
    They do not have the right to marry a person of the sex they are attracted to and love. It is not equal.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:20 No.3055237
    >>3055196
    >get destroyed in an argument
    >WHY DO YOU CARE ANYWAY
    because, i like my society AIDS free, and whiny advocacy groups silent.

    Gays are yesterdays pedos. deviants should always be regarded as such.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:20 No.3055239
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    >>3055181

    In this case, when we're debating if strayings such as homosexuality and pedophilia are inherently different, because that's the issue I brought up.

    Homosexuality is evident in animals, and so is pedophilia. The bonobos, for instance, practice pedophilia. It is not less "natural" than homosexuality, and surely not more of a "disorder" if we're defining disorder without taking the morals of our times into consideration.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:20 No.3055240
    >>3055177
    http://marriage.about.com/cs/marriagelicenses/a/cousin.htm

    IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA, YOU MAY MARRY YOUR FIRST COUSIN. EVERY ARGUMENT AGAINST HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE CAN BE APPLIED TO MARRIAGE BETWEEN FIRST COUSINS.

    THAT IS HYPOCRISY. YOU ARE A DUMB FUCKING CHIMP.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:21 No.3055244
    >>3055230
    "I believe the base that was inspired to make Obama a one-term president will only be more inspired. And if I'm Mitt Romney today, I am smiling bigger than life. I believe it will make Obama a one-term president,"

    I agree.

    >>3055230
    I think you mean Psychology, friend.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:21 No.3055250
    >>3055191
    This depends HUGELY on how you ask the question. If you ask about gay couples having the same rights as straight couples, yeah, you get 60% -- if you ask about gay marriage, it flips.

    Last time I looked, no amendment or other plebiscite banning gay marriage in a state has failed.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:21 No.3055253
    Wait a minute? So is Obama going to make us all get gay married? Because if not I don't see why I SHOULD FUCKING CARE WHAT OTHER PEOPLE DO.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:22 No.3055265
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    >>3055173
    read the bible child.
    a christian who denies the word of God is a heretic.
    homosexuality is an abomination to the Lord

    lrn2christianity
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:22 No.3055266
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    >>3055215

    Nice comeback, that sure showed him. Oh wait, he's not following that thread anymore because you hurt his feelings? BAWWWW

    Pic related
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:22 No.3055268
    >>3055253
    That's not how religion works, I'm afraid. Fucking America.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:22 No.3055269
    >>3055215
    Are you by any chance butthurt that someone is revealing your shitty tactics at trying to justify laziness and failure by making society lower its standards to accept you instead of ridicule you appropriately?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:22 No.3055270
    >>3055230
    This, it;s just a way for libs to push an agenda on us. Psychology is a pseudo religion
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:22 No.3055273
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    NO THEY DON'T YOU LYING FAGGOT

    THEY DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO MARRY THE PERSON THEY LOVE.

    MARRIAGE IS NOT ABOUT BEING ABLE TO JUST MARRY SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE SEX.

    IT'S ABOUT LOVE, YOU FUCKING SOCIOPATHIC CUNT.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:23 No.3055281
    >>3055253
    >why should i care what other people do?
    >why should i care if jimmy lynches 21 black people in a month? not my business!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:23 No.3055292
    >>3055273
    To be fair, marriage is a Christian vow and union taken on the Bible.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:23 No.3055293
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    >end of argument >end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument>end of argument
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:23 No.3055295
    >>3054525
    >homosexuality and pedophilia is like autism to down syndome

    Yeah. Autism is a disease. Down syndrome is a disease. Pedophilia is a disease. Homosexuality is a disease. Your point being?
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)19:23 No.3055298
    >>3055237
    I'm Pretty sure i won the argument with >>3055023, and
    >>3055167
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:23 No.3055299
    >>3055273
    they have the same right as i do to get married.

    to a woman.

    if i love bubba, then i am at the same lack of rights as they are. except i dont.

    that was easy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:23 No.3055300
    >>3055281
    That infringes on someone else's rights to live. How does someone else getting married to someone they love affect you or your marriage?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:24 No.3055301
    >>3055265
    >Being an adult
    >Reading poorly written fantasy fiction.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:24 No.3055309
    >>3055265
    Do you eat shellfish?
    Do you stone disobedient children?
    Do you mix fabrics in your clothes?
    Do you endorse slavery?
    You are a heretic.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:24 No.3055310
    >>3055253
    Sorry, or we talking about how it should be, or about how it is?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:24 No.3055314
    >>3055240
    what's the argument against incestual relations? Some sort of amoral eugenics program?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:25 No.3055322
    >>3055298
    They. Have. The. Same. Rights. As. Hetero. Sexuals. To. Marry. Women.

    Hetero. Sexuals. Still. Cannot. Marry. A. non. opposite. Gender. person. you. dumb. fucking. nigger.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:25 No.3055324
    >>3055300
    BECUZ MY RELIGION SAYS SO AND IT MAKES ME MAD

    YOU MAKING ME MAD = MY LIFE IS MARGINALLY WORSE
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:25 No.3055326
    >>3055295
    It's not a disease. You're just wrong. Why do you keep repeating falsehoods? You'll never be right and you'll never be on the right side of history. You are the 21st century equivalent of an anti-abolitionist.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:25 No.3055327
    >>3055301
    What book is this?
    >>3055266
    >>3055266
    >>3055266
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:25 No.3055329
    >>3055240

    You my friend, are a cock smoker.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:25 No.3055330
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    I JUST EXPLAINED TO YOUR DUMB ASS THAT MARRIAGE IS ABOUT MARRYING THE PERSON YOU LOVE.

    YOU AND I HAVE THE ABILITY TO MARRY THE PERSON WE LOVE. THEY DON'T.

    THAT'S ALL THERE IS DO IT YOU DENSE FUCK.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:25 No.3055333
    >>3055300
    but it doesnt affect you, and by your own argument, you shouldn't care.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:25 No.3055339
    Being gay is a genetic thing, and there's a lot of people that are...gay, lately. In time, almost half/75% of the population will be gay/bisexual.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:26 No.3055345
    >>3055329
    im right youre wrong deal with it. now get on your knees
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:26 No.3055350
    NCfag here. Went out and voted against yesterday. The majority of my friends did the same.

    The reason it passed is because

    >1. There is a huge amount of uneducated "Christian" bigots in my state raised from generations of farmers or factory workers or coal miners that never got an education
    >2. The majority of the people who vote here are fucking old as hell
    >3. The younger people are too caught up in their "lol look at how nonchalant I am lol politics that's for nerds pussy money weed nawmsayn?" to do any real good

    The generation gap on issues like this is huge. In the county by county breakdown, all the counties with major universities voted against. That is, the centers of education in the state made an educated decision.

    Creating such a vague amendment and presenting it as a protection of those holy Christian values the country bumpkins hold so dear is intentional deceit on the part of the state government. All those backwoods hillbillies simply don't know any better.

    Rest assured, those of us with brains are fucking pissed as hell about all this. And good on Obama for supporting personal freedoms. Romney was never a choice for me anyway, he's a fucking liar who parrots whatever was well-received from other candidates.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:26 No.3055351
    >>3055322
    And a black man had the right to marry a black woman, and a white man had the right to marry a white woman, so therefore they both had the right to marry someone of the same race as themselves.

    Oh, except that argument didn't hold up back then, and it doesn't hold up now.

    l2legalprecedent
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:26 No.3055353
    >>3055330
    doesnt matter. they have the equal right to marry a person of the opposite gender, do they not?

    or can heterosexuals marry those of their own gender?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:27 No.3055354
    Why are fags and fag enablers the easiest group to troll? Easier than atheists even.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:27 No.3055358
    >>3055339
    Literally makes no sense
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:27 No.3055363
    >>3055265

    I bet you wouldn't even fuck you own dead brother's widowed wife until she got pregnant. God have mercy on you pull out- oh wait. He wont have mercy on you.

    Heretic.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:27 No.3055364
    >>3055351
    legal precident was between those of separate genders still/. problem?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:28 No.3055372
    >>3055350
    Who is having more children, University faggots of hicks and spics?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:28 No.3055376
    >>3055354
    Atheists are generally much easier to troll, because they're following a label
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:28 No.3055384
    >>3055363
    i would do that. my little bros wife is fucking hawt
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:28 No.3055388
    >>3055364
    Why does gender get to define it but not race? You're cherry-picking. The bible condemns race-mixing too.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:28 No.3055391
    Has America always been a theocracy or am I just /new/ here?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:28 No.3055392
    >>3055273
    I love them little gurlz, why is a caint marry thay?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:29 No.3055395
    >>3055372
    Unfortunately the hicks are. Teen pregnancy is a fucking epidemic in my county.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:29 No.3055396
    >>3055376
    So are faggots
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    >>3055353
    MARRIAGE IS ABOUT LOVE NOT GENDER, YOU UNBELIEVABLY STUPID PIECE OF SHIT.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:29 No.3055408
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    I'm not really sure why people are so inclined to demonize a certain group of people that do no harm. Perhaps they want to take the spotlight away from their own shortcomings.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:30 No.3055413
    >>3055376
    I dunno man, I have been in this thread an hour and the trolling has been very easy
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:30 No.3055418
    >>3055376
    >implying Christians aren't the loudest whiners in this country lately.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:30 No.3055422
    >>3055309
    Not sure if the Bible REQUIRES slavery...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:30 No.3055428
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    THIS
    IS
    WHY
    OLD
    CONSERVATIVES
    SHOULD
    NOT
    BE
    ALLOWED
    TO
    VOTE

    These issues have LITERALLY no effect on the economy.
    They won't do shit to increase jobs.
    Will they fix our international affairs? FUCK NO
    Will they support infrastructure? SUCK A COCK
    Do we waste time on this shit? You bet your sweet ass we do.

    It's ridiculous how heated these non-issues are. We're never going to advance.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:30 No.3055429
    >>3055401
    that's like saying sex is forcing fecal matter into your urinary tract.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:31 No.3055433
    >>3055401
    According to you.Do you make the laws?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:31 No.3055438
    >>3055388
    Gender is 'man' 'woman' and that little 'horrific abomination' over to the side.

    yet again...
    >me
    >christian
    pick one
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:31 No.3055442
    >>3055428
    >implying that we are never going to advance BECAUSE of conservatives.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:31 No.3055447
    >>3055422
    No, but it endorses it, and you are a heretic if you disagree with the bible. I asked if he endorsed it, not if he owned any slaves.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:31 No.3055448
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    I'll support gay marriage only if you abolish gay parades.
    Rights end when they become so obnoxious they start alienating society more than bringing it together.
    As such gay parades should be abolished.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:31 No.3055453
    >>3051790
    Bullshit government gives gays the right to marry but takes it away from straights. Time to revolt!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:32 No.3055455
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    >>3055309
    >Do you eat shellfish?
    >Do you stone disobedient children?
    >Do you mix fabrics in your clothes?
    >Do you endorse slavery?
    >You are a heretic.

    Welp, seems you are unfamiliar with the gospels.
    Jesus Christ was sent to fulfill the law.

    New Testament = New Covenant.
    Old Testament = Old Covenant.

    Jesus dying on the cross enabled the New Covenant.
    >Hebrews 8:13
    By calling this covenant "new," he has made the first one obsolete; and what is obsolete and aging will soon disappear.
    Read the gospels and you'll know why everything you claimed is irrelevant.

    I'll help get you started.
    >Matthew 15:11
    "It is not what goes into the mouth that defiles a person, but what comes out of the mouth; this defiles a person.”
    - Jesus Christ
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:32 No.3055456
    >>3055408

    They're just afraid of things they don't understand, so they hate and despise it, hoping it will go away. When it doesn't, they get all pissy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:32 No.3055462
    >>3055442
    WE'RE NEVER GOING TO GET ANYWHERE BECAUSE OLD PEOPLE KEEP BRINGING UP THESE NON-ISSUES

    THIS IS WHY AMERICA IS DYING
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:32 No.3055465
    >>3055422
    It doesn't.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:32 No.3055467
    >>3055448
    >alienating people by showing love and togetherness
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:32 No.3055469
    >>3055428
    > lose yet another vote on gay marriage
    > start talking about stripping away people right to vote
    Liberals:Protectors of Liberty
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:32 No.3055470
    >>3055428
    Fucking this.

    There needs to be an aptitude test and an age limit for voting. That way the government can stop taking advantage of these old senile Christians and stop manipulating them to get things passed by tailoring the language to their beliefs.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:32 No.3055471
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:33 No.3055476
    >>3055467

    Sign me up.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:33 No.3055477
    >>3055462
    Really? Conservatives forced Obama out of the closet?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:33 No.3055478
    >>3055428
    >SUCK A COCK

    AS FAR AS MY UNDERSTANDING GOES, OLD SCHOOL CONSERVATIVES DON'T TYPICALLY SUPPORT SUCH LEWD BLATANTLY HOMOSEXUAL NON-PROCREATIVE BEHAVIOR. I COULD BE WRONG THOUGH.

    ALSO CAPS LOCK
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:33 No.3055482
    >>3055438
    That didn't answer the question at all. Why is marriage limited by the genders of the involved parties, but not the races? Whether you appeal to tradition or to the bible, you're cherry-picking, and ignoring the battle you already lost in Loving v. Virginia.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:33 No.3055483
    >>3055433
    ACCORDING TO ANYONE WHO ISN'T FUCKING STUPID.

    WHY ARE YOU SO OBSESSED WITH DENYING OTHER PEOPLE LIBERTY?

    FUCKS LIKE YOU MAKE ME ASHAMED TO BE A VETERAN.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:33 No.3055488
    >>3055455

    So where does the gay hatred come from if not from the Leviticus?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:33 No.3055489
    >>3055350
    4. Black churches turned out their congregations for it. Black support polled higher than white support -- except, for some odd reason, in Durham County. I think the charismatic black Bishop who was fiercely against it may be from up there, maybe, not sure.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:34 No.3055502
    >>3055470
    you might as well prevent the malleable and easily persuaded youth from voting too
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:34 No.3055505
    >>3055469
    That was a bit harsh, what I meant to say would probably be something akin to WHY ARE WE EVEN VOTING ON THIS ISSUE HOLY SHIT
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:34 No.3055506
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    >using "gender" instead of "sex"

    sure is JIDF in here
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:34 No.3055507
    >>3055483
    Oh a vetfag...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:34 No.3055508
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:34 No.3055510
    >>3055488
    Matthew, I believe, states some gay hate.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:35 No.3055511
    >>3055448
    Grow up. I'm a straight man and I've walked in the parades before in support of my gay friends. It's no big deal.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:35 No.3055514
    >>3055467
    >alienating people by filling up 5 fucking city blocks and making it impossible for me to get to work because of their little gayfest
    >>3055470
    aptitute test? for voting? didnt liberals get those stricken down for making it so most niggers couldnt vote?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:35 No.3055515
    >>3055212
    no, they don't. I was able to sponsor my australian wife's residency application. My best man wasn't able to sponsor his french boyfriend's application. We can file our income taxes jointly, they can't. The list goes on & on. There's 1,049 differences in how federal law treats married couples, compared to cohabitating or civil-union couples.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:35 No.3055516
    >>3055483
    The voters of the nation disagree.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:35 No.3055521
    Marriage is a religious ceremony. And why are we giving tax breaks for married people and dependants still? Are we not overpopulated enough to be giving such incentives for more welfare kids?

    GET OUT OF RELIGION AND MARRIAGE, GOVERNMENT.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:36 No.3055529
    >>3055482
    'loving v virginia' referred specifically to interracial marriage, which i also disapprove of, since i enjoy diversity.

    marriage is beween a man and a woman fag/fag enabler
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:36 No.3055532
    >>3055516
    If medicine was shit and all the old people were dead, gay marriage would be fine and this wouldn't be an issue. Hell, all the social issues wouldn't be an issue because of these fools.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:36 No.3055533
    >>3055455
    The new testament also condemns long hair on men. Should we introduce an amendment for mandatory haircuts?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:36 No.3055534
    >>3055505
    I agree, marriage is between a man and a woman, the very idea of voting on elementary concepts is baffling
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:37 No.3055541
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    >>3055467
    Just like George Lucas's film Red Tails alienated and broadened the rift between blacks and whites (but also made many blacks ashamed of how retarded it was made) and it was about BLACK RIGHTS HURR

    while a simple action film like say Deadly Weapon, brought everyone together in laughter.

    You are a fucking idiot, but i guess i don't have to expect anything more from dreamy liberals who are in denial of reality.

    Parades are obnoxious, hippies preached peace and love too, where are they now? GONE THANK FUCK.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:37 No.3055542
    >>3055462
    Without people GIVING A FUCK about what other people do with their love that doesn't hurt anyone, YES
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:37 No.3055544
    >>3055510
    Paul too. didnt he call their hearts black or something?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:37 No.3055550
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:37 No.3055555
    >>3055244
    >I think you mean Psychology, friend.

    No, I don't. The only metric they use is body behavior, and it's a terribly unreliable metric. It's nowhere near e.g. blood tests.

    Just look at the Breivik case for instance. His first psychiatrists thought he was a paranoid schizophrenic experiencing psychosis, the second ones thought he was completely sane. How the hell could these experts disagree this badly? How often do cardiologists disagree whether a patient has a stroke not?

    Psychiatry is a not a science.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:37 No.3055557
    /pol/ confirmed for worst board on 4chan

    you people should all be gassed and burnt in ovens and it's a damn shame that you won't be, despite what you say.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:37 No.3055561
    >>3055350
    >The generation gap on issues like this is huge. In the county by county breakdown, all the counties with major universities voted against. That is, the centers of education in the state made an educated decision.

    More likely, these are the urban counties with more moderate/liberal voters. Note Charlotte/Mecklenburg defeated it heavily, but is not really a "college town." (Yeah, UNC-C is here: it is an insignificant part of the urban area by any measure.) Educated folks who went to college don't all live by the college still, they're spread across the state.

    It's a conservative state -- and these things pass every time they are on the ballot. California passed one.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:38 No.3055566
    >>3055514
    I bet people feel the same way about mardi gras or the macy's day parade ._.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:38 No.3055567
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:38 No.3055568
    Straight people are no longer allowed to get married FUCK!!!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:38 No.3055569
    >>3055515
    same. right. to. get. married. to. the. opposite. sex. you. stupid. nigger.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:38 No.3055571
    >>3055541
    "Lethal Weapon", my mistake.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:38 No.3055572
    >>3055483
    >FUCKS LIKE YOU MAKE ME ASHAMED TO BE A VETERAN.

    Fucks like you make me ashamed to be a citizen. What's it like serving for the Imperialist Israeli Defense Force of America?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:38 No.3055574
    >>3055529
    You're not answering WHY.

    Why is marriage specifically man/woman? If you appeal to either tradition or the bible, you must reconcile the problem with the legal precedent established in Loving v. Virginia, which threw your tradition/bible out the window.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:39 No.3055584
    >>3055515
    So we should restructure society in order to benefit your faggot friend and his frog boyfriend?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:39 No.3055587
    >>3055555
    It's not a hard science but it does use the exact same techniques as "hard science" to get their results.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:39 No.3055590
    Future generations will look back at the resistance to legalize same-sex marriage and think, "Wow, how close-minded they were." I'm not giving my opinion and I don't care what yours is, but one day this will all be history; opponents of same-sex marriage will simply fall on the wrong side of it, and be counted alongside those who opposed interracial marriage.

    Also, Obama just secured the majority of votes from the (growing) LGBT community for Democrats for at least two decades. And he just changed a lot of moderates' minds, I bet. I can see it now: "Yeah, the economy is pretty bad right now, but this guy is both the first black president and the first president to publicly endorse same-sex marriage. I'm voting for Obama."

    Republicans are so fucking stupid.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:39 No.3055594
    >>3054853
    It's not twisted logic, it's medically proven fact. Homophobes respond to gay porn. Non-homophobes, don't.

    Yes, some scientist actually put sensors on people dicks and showed them gay porn. Google it..
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:39 No.3055595
    >>3055350
    > And good on Obama for supporting personal freedoms.

    I would have agreed if he'd done so yesterday, or better a week ago, could have turned some of those black churches around, and he would have shown some leadership.

    Doing it today, when it is too fucking late by one damn day, is cynical as Hell. Fuck Obama.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:40 No.3055608
    >>3055574
    because the purpose of marriage is procreation.
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    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:40 No.3055610
    >>3055572

    >implying you aren't anal-raging

    Enjoy you grandchildren wondering why their grandparent was such a bigot.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:40 No.3055612
    >>3055587
    No evidence gathered by any psychologist is empirical, so you cannot even associate hard science with it. It's basically armchair knowitalls spouting words and reactions from a book, because our psyche is JUST that simple.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:40 No.3055620
    >>3055574
    >>3055574
    Why call Up, Up? Why call water wet? Some things simply are.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:41 No.3055624
    >>3055610
    or perhaps enjoy your grand children for not existing because you were a raging queer
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:41 No.3055625
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    >>3055608
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
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    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >the purpose of marriage is procreation.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:41 No.3055627
    >>3055590
    It's the same for every other group of people in the past. People just go LOL LOOK HOW DUMB THEY WAS. Those dumb people are us now.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:41 No.3055631
    there goes the black and hispanic vote. All for a few fudgepacking votes
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:41 No.3055632
    >>3055608
    no you idiot it was based on property
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:41 No.3055638
    >>3055541
    Hippies grow up.

    Gays just grow.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:42 No.3055639
    >>3055351
    You totally reversed his argument, you know.

    If I have the right to marry a white woman, and that black guy doesn't, that's discriminatory. If we both have the right to marry the same people, it's no longer discriminatory.

    All us guys currently have the right to seek a spouse out of the same pool of talent. Not discriminatory.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:42 No.3055640
    People who deny other people freedom don't deserve to be free themselves.

    In my youth I was paid to put bullets in these kinds of people on the other side of the world. I wouldn't mind doing it here.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:42 No.3055641
    >>3055610
    >not thinking your grandparent was a bigot

    Shit just about everyone aged 70-90 today was a bigot.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:42 No.3055642
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    >>3055555
    What about chemical imbalances in the brain?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:42 No.3055644
    >>3055624

    >implying no surrogates / adoption
    >implying we need more children
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:42 No.3055645
    >>3055555
    Actually, doctors disagree on ailments all the time because symptoms can overlap. So that's moot.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:43 No.3055657
    >>3055641

    Not true at all.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:43 No.3055661
    >>3055644
    >implying that surrogates/adopton are the same as actually having a child
    >implying that the purpose of life isnt the pass on your genes
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:43 No.3055664
    >>3055639
    No, it is still discriminatory, and the government has no right to tell anyone who they can and can't marry. SCOTUS has already affirmed this.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:43 No.3055666
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    >>3055638
    >Gays just grow.
    Gays don't attend Parades, faggots do.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:44 No.3055673
    >>3055644
    the US has a stable replacement rate, unless it's changed in the last 4 years.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:44 No.3055678
    >>3055612
    Not exactly true since psychology is more than just mental illnesses, but you can continue to spout your ignorance.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:44 No.3055680
    >>3055664
    exactly. therefore, we should leave it to the churches.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:44 No.3055681
    >>3055594
    I know the study. I would just like to point out that agenda driven pseudo science is not worth a damn.
    Is it really so hard to believe that most people simply don't like gays?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:44 No.3055682
    >>3055639
    Why is gender a defining limit but not race?

    Both the black man and the white man had the right to marry someone of their own race. That's "equal rights" by the definition conservatives are using for gay marriage.

    Today, heterosexuals and homosexuals both hav ethe right to marry someone of the opposite gender.

    So why is gender the defining limit where race was not?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:44 No.3055684
    >>3055631
    Wow, are you serious? You don't think the first BLACK president will get the BLACK vote, regardless of his positions?

    I don't think you understand how a lot of people vote.

    Hey, opponents of same-sex marriage:
    Why do you care so much?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:45 No.3055690
    >>3055327
    Not him, and not sure, but pretty sure that's Annie Dillard. She's an amazing writer.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:45 No.3055699
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    Eventually liberals win, they always do. History demands it.
    >mfw conservatives are always on the wrong side of history on everything from slavery to women's rights to abortion and interracial marriage.
    Thank god for The Reformation and The Renaissance and The Age of Enlightenment.
    Change will come, it always does.So I'm not too worried. Just sit back and relax.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:45 No.3055703
    >>3055488
    Rebuke/reproof is not hate.

    When people are living in sin, you need to let them know that they need to turn from their sin.

    If you love someone, you will be honest with them. You will tell them that what they're doing is wrong but you won't stop there.

    You'll help them along the way. Mercy is greater than judgement. We are called to judge righteously but we aren't called to judge and then carry on with our own business. We are servants just like Jesus never came to be served but to serve until his death and resurrection.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:46 No.3055708
    >>3055587

    Yes, just like sociology, sexology, gender studies etc. They're not real sciences either.

    >>3055642
    If psychiatry ever was to get to the level where they run chemical tests on samples from the brain, sure. But currently they don't.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:46 No.3055709
    >>3055684
    >why do you care
    Fags and Fag enablers and all liberals need to shut the hell up and not fuck with how we do things
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:46 No.3055714
    >>3055661

    Should infertile people be barred from marriage then?

    Also, could you be anymore of a NATURALISTIC fallacy, bro?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:46 No.3055716
    >>3055684
    they "care" so much because its all based on their personal religious beliefs.

    >personal
    >religious beliefs
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:46 No.3055718
    >>3055447
    I don't endorse slavery. Show me where the Bible says I have to.

    Not everything that is allowed is mandatory -- since your other points were, at first glance at least, mandates, your lit seemed stronger without them. Allimsayin.jpg
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:46 No.3055719
    >>3055680
    So my Unitarian Universalist church should have the right to perform gay marriages then?

    I'm okay with this, provided that the couple married there is then granted all of the same legal privileges and rights a straight couple would be by the state.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:47 No.3055733
    >>3055533
    source?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:48 No.3055743
    >>3055719

    better idea- lets strip ALL of the marriage benefits out. how would that feel, fags?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:48 No.3055744
    >>3055708
    Sexology, gender studies, etc are only specialists of psychology and sociology. There are no differences.

    It's like neurology and cardiology all being apart of medicine.

    But again, your ignorance is showing...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:48 No.3055752
    >>3055657
    every race riot, the Busing fiasco in the north and whatever civil rights violations took place erry day in the south disagrees with you.


    Looking at the news the past few months, you'd think that everyone supports gay rights and it makes you subhuman to deny it. You'd get the same implications with regards to civil rights for nignogs.

    But I'm willing to bet that if civil rights had played out with gay rights, 30 some odd states would have anti nigger amendments in their constitutions today.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:48 No.3055753
    >>3055719
    Different guy, but yes.

    The state has no business interfering with whatever rites you have in oyur Church.

    The state DOES get to decide which unions it wants to recognize. If the state only recognized Civil Unions, and marriage was something up to the Churches, most of the heat would go out of this fight.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:48 No.3055757
    >>3055733
    1 Corinthians 11:14
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:49 No.3055760
    >>3055718
    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:49 No.3055764
    >>3055718
    then i just won't go to church or anything and say i'm christian. DOWN WITH THE GAYS THEY KILLIN AMERICA
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:49 No.3055767
    >>3055719
    > Unitarian
    > real religion
    They let atheists in for Christs sake, what a joke
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:49 No.3055769
    >>3055716
    or perhaps non autistic people see this happening
    >fags yesterdays pedos
    >fags should marry!
    >Pedos should marry!
    >tomorrows pedos should marry!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:50 No.3055778
    >>3055590
    >"Yeah, the economy is pretty bad right now, but this guy is both the first black president and the first president to publicly endorse same-sex marriage. I'm voting for Obama."

    You almost got me, 9/10
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:50 No.3055784
    >>3055744
    >hurp everything is a subset of physics durp
    >ergo psychologists are physicists

    no
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:50 No.3055785
    >>3055753
    >>3055743
    Tell you what, you sell that idea to the public, annul all currently-recognized state-sanctioned heterosexual marriages, rebrand them as civil unions, and I will be all in favor of you idea.

    We both know that's never going to happen though, that you'll never get the public to side with you on that, so the only option we have for equality is to grant marriage licenses to couples regardless of sexuality.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:50 No.3055789
    >>3055699
    You now realise that homosexuality was widespread among pagans and religion came after that and the societies actually became more conservative... until decadence).
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:50 No.3055793
    >>3055708
    Because now you're stepping into the realm of neurology and tapping into cerebrospinal fluid which is relatively new and pretty inconclusive. Levels of 5-HT and DA are usually normal in those individuals with mental illness like schizophrenia, etc.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:51 No.3055796
    >>3055767
    sorry, I just believe in a religion where everyone is accepted. I guess that was too much to ask for
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:51 No.3055799
    >>3055544
    RON PAUL SAID THAT? FUCK THAT OLD GIGGLING LOON!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:51 No.3055800
    >>3055752
    *should be, played out like
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:51 No.3055801
    >>3055769
    >pedos

    ya ok because its legal for someone under than 18 to sign a legal document. Logic
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:51 No.3055804
    >>3055767
    Buddhists are atheists too. Religion is not defined by theism.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:52 No.3055815
    >>3055789
    actually, homosexuality was tolerated by the Greco-Romans, and noone else.

    FEMALE homosexuals were tolerated everywhere except JudoChristian areas.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:52 No.3055819
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    >>3055682
    The penis goes into the vagina.

    IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE

    How do gay couples procreate?

    Oh wait, they don't.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:52 No.3055822
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    >>3055708

    http://www.nature.com/mp/journal/v12/n10/full/4002008a.html
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:52 No.3055823
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    I dislike gays. My subconscious knows the reason but i don't and i don't care to try and find it because i have better things to do. In fact im not into pseudo intellectual psycho analysis crap because i grew out of that teenage type arguing.
    It is an opinion.

    If you want to preach rights then you are just going to have to deal with it, because my opinion is also my right whether it makes your wee feelings hurt or not.
    And if it does hurt your feelings then im sorry to announce to you that you have low integrity.

    People like me will always exist because everything in this world has multiple sides to it and always WILL, which of course means some people who take it to the extreme unlike myself will always be present and are born every day waiting for the day they become what they become without you even being aware of it. Cry about it, says nature.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:52 No.3055827
    >>3055784
    >herp derp, look at me grasping straws!
    >I so smart!
    >Look! Look at me! Look!

    You're an idiot and ignorant as sin, go read a fucking book.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:52 No.3055831
    >>3055789
    I know I yearn for a retuyrn to the great life the early pagans had. I want to be the first to leave my child in the woods to die from exposure to please Igrilt, goddess of winter.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:53 No.3055835
    >>3055544
    Paul couldn't into sex at all, though, iirc.

    He was one of those, "close your eyes and think of England" sort of guys.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:53 No.3055836
    >>3055819
    the point of marriage is not procreation. And dont use carl sagan for your stupid arguments.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:53 No.3055837
    >>3055799
    Paul the same as Saul, dead for several thousand years you stupid nigger
    >>3055801
    actually, in texas, it is 17. in Sweden it is 15. whats your point? its the logical progression you autist
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:53 No.3055841
    >>3055819
    So asexuals, infertile couples, women over 50, and people who just plain don't want kids should not be granted marriage licenses?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:54 No.3055856
    >>3055831
    actually, the Pagans were the best practitioners of Eugenics. we should indeed go back to those times.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:54 No.3055859
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >>3054960
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:54 No.3055867
    >>3055841
    nope
    in fact they should be exiled
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:54 No.3055868
    >>3055841
    I don't really get how asexuals work, but this totally makes sense
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:55 No.3055873
    >>3055841
    >women over 50
    didnt some 70 year old cumdumpster manage to get pregnant?

    anyway, no, they shouldnt.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:55 No.3055874
    >>3055837
    SWEEDEN = USA

    and 17 is 1 year from 18, perfectly fine in my book.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:55 No.3055876
    >>3055584

    Yes.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:55 No.3055881
    Dear Christfags,

    I'm going to to go find a young evangelical woman, and slit her throat.

    Just for you.

    You're welcome.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:56 No.3055886
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    >>3055874
    14 is fine too, unless you are a failure who couldn't get a girlfriend in highschool.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:56 No.3055887
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    >mfw I get to /pol/
    >this thread is sticky
    >Pollfag must die
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:56 No.3055888
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    >>3055594
    Except for Bridgett porn, Everybody is gay for Bridgett.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:56 No.3055890
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    >>3055873
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:56 No.3055891
    >>3055868
    the only person who could be used as an example of "asexual" was mary because she gave birth without a father but that was more a miracle of god than anything
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:56 No.3055894
    >>3055868
    Y'know that lack of sexual attraction you have for some people?

    That's them, except for pretty much everybody.

    Not a particularly difficult concept to wrap your head around.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:57 No.3055899
    >>3055876
    Too bad. Why doesn't he fucking leave and go to France? They love cocksuckers in that feminized hellhole.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:57 No.3055900
    >>3055874
    16 in some other states. able to speak in a understandable way in Saudi Arabia. just you wait, 50 years from now, sex age limits will be viewed as discriminatory to transgenerational people.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:57 No.3055903
    >>3055874
    It's 16 in almost half of the US

    whats the diff between 16 and 15 or 14?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:57 No.3055907
    >>3055887
    inb4 u get b&
    >> !OPIATE9fy. 05/09/12(Wed)19:57 No.3055912
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    Obama endorses this thug as his son too
    >> ryesta7971 !!eLlkEQUMVKd 05/09/12(Wed)19:58 No.3055920
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    >>3055888
    trips never lie
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:58 No.3055921
    >>3055886
    >>3055903
    and 7, 8, 9

    whats is your point
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:58 No.3055924
    >>3055912
    $42 is totally gangsta
    >>3055903
    whats the difference between 14 and 12?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:59 No.3055939
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    People who get aroused by gay porn actually aren't.All pleasure from sex comes from the brain.
    That's why getting whipped turns some people on. It's the stimulus in the brain that makes it satisfactory, not the damage to the flesh.

    TL;DR? = It's all in your head. Take a rest.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:59 No.3055941
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    >>3055903
    Nothing,
    those aren't pedophilia, those ages are called Ephebophilia.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:59 No.3055946
    >>3055664
    >SCOTUS has already affirmed this.

    Oh? The Supreme COurt said the states can;t have rules on who can and can;t marry? Really?

    Are you lying to me, or to yourself.

    Supremes have not rules gay marriage legal. 0/10, please troll again later.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)19:59 No.3055949
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    >>3050663
    >Obama endorses same-sex marriage
    the Gramscism is strong with this one
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:00 No.3055958
    >>3055924
    2 years

    maybe some pubic hair
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:01 No.3055961
    >>3055767
    It's not just them.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessing_of_same-sex_unions_in_Christian_churches
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:01 No.3055965
    >>3055912
    I fail to see how these images convey the idea of 'thuggery'
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:02 No.3055973
    >>3055939
    >People who get aroused by gay porn actually aren't.

    How about we leave this philosophy pseudo intellectual crap aside and deal with reality, savy?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:02 No.3055974
    >>3055699
    They were pretty good on anti-communism, at least. Give 'em their due.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:02 No.3055981
    >>3055946
    SCOTUS ruled in Loving v. Virginia that marriage is a right and that government must have a compelling interest to restrict that right.

    Lower federal courts have overturned both DOMA and Prop 8, and all indications are that SCOTUS will uphold those rulings.

    Stay butthurt.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:04 No.3055998
    >>3055981
    Enjoy your constitutional amendment banning gay marriage. 40 states have passed gay marriage bans, that is more than enough.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:05 No.3056007
    cool story bro
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:06 No.3056022
    >>3055899
    France doesn't recognize gay marriage, either.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:06 No.3056025
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    >>3055973
    So you seriously believe how your body reacts to something means you enjoy it?

    This sounds like something a victim to a rape might tell themselves. When a little boy gets raped by a elderly woman, it's not cool or enjoyable. It's a traumatic experience. It's something no boy should be forced to experience. That female's mustache will haunt him forever.
    >> !OPIATE9fy. 05/09/12(Wed)20:06 No.3056028
    >>3055965
    he is pretending to have a gun in his hand and posing with money that he stole

    the other pic is him saying "fuck da world" and "thug life"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:06 No.3056031
    >>3055981
    lets look at the supreme court today...
    we have the 'wise latina', and spics hate fags more than blacks (who they also hate)
    we have 3 by liberals, and the rest by conservatives. i wonder who wins...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:06 No.3056040
    >>3056012
    shit, if that's what defines a thug then pretty much everyone I know is a thug
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:06 No.3056041
    >>3056012
    Pointing a finger is pretending to have a gun?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:06 No.3056042
    >>3055981
    This. Gay marriage will be recognized as legally valid sooner than later. Obama is throwing his support behind it at the very last minute, even though he remaed on the fence about it the entire time.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:07 No.3056046
    >>3056022
    Good for them! Nice to see Europe isn't totally lost
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:07 No.3056052
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    >>3055760
    You MAY. Not you MUST.

    Your list of Biblical commands to balance against commands on homosex would, it seems to me, be stronger without the slave thing. I understand the emotive punch, but as you can se, we can debate this one. Shrimp and fabrics and stuff are harder to argue -- though I do know some fundamentalists who live strictly in all those regards. Damn few, but some.

    Just my opinion, disregard if it doesn't suit you.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:08 No.3056057
    >>3056042
    this. Pedo Marriage will be recognized as legally valid sooner or later. the 50th president is throwing his support behind it at the last minute, even though the originally was against it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:09 No.3056073
    >>3056025
    This thread is a joke. Go home everybody. This thread is a spy. Also retards shouldn't be allowed to vote and rapists should burn in hell.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:09 No.3056077
    >>3056031
    This, Obama care is going down, what shot does fag marriage have?
    It is nice to see the queers do recognize they will never win at the ballot box and so they have to use the courts to push their agenda
    >> !OPIATE9fy. 05/09/12(Wed)20:09 No.3056082
    >>3056040
    he is holding the gun sideways, typical of thug behavior

    >>3056041
    his hand gesture indicates him holding a gun
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:11 No.3056095
    >>3055785
    Oh, I know it is going to happen. That ship has sailed.

    I just recognize that the state got into the business of licensing what was also a sacrament in the Church -- and that bad idea led to this difficult situation.

    Note how few people are marching for "gays can't live together," and how much easier it is to get civil unions laws passed. It's the word marriage, denoting something sacred to some people, that makes for the storm and fury.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:11 No.3056097
    >>3056057
    Except there's no legal basis for it you fear mongering bullshitter. Children cannot legally enter into a marriage contract. The marriage contract is literally the only thing that matters in determining the validity of a marriage. Religious ceremony is all pomp and no substance in terms of legality. No certificate, no marriage. If you can't legally enter into a contract, you can't legally be married.

    You would have to rewrite contract law entirely to permit children to be married in the first place. It's the same reason why animals and inanimate objects can't be legally married.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:11 No.3056100
    >>3055699
    Actually Conservatives are the answer to keeping Liberalism in line seeing as both are retarded extremes with none showing balance.

    The other problem is that Liberals are too retarded to pull of the most important thing and aspect of leadership: Unpopular decisions for long term benefit. Liberals have no balls and are all talk.
    Liberalism has become too crazy and now Conservatism is beginning to see a rise where needed to fill in the gap of idiocy produced by long standing Liberalism.

    And thus it goes in circles.

    The reasons Conservatives and Liberals exist is because each have their strong points and weak points and they are expected to surface when the situation demands it and when they use up their power the other one sees its rise and takes place and it goes in circles.
    Just like in war you have a point where diplomacy will do and a point where only war will do.
    The point of this multiple system isn't to satisfy people's ideologies but for the people to shift between the two when the situation warrants it, gathered people are intelligent enough to recognize this and recognize when what is needed.

    Take Immigration, there is the good controlled immigration and then there is the crazy as fuck immigration Liberals have been selling in Western Europe for example.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:11 No.3056102
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    >>3056057
    What do gays have to do with pedophiles?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:12 No.3056107
    >>3055789
    You do know that "paganism" is a religion, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:12 No.3056117
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    >>3055841
    >So asexuals, infertile couples, women over 50, and people who just plain don't want kids should not be granted marriage licenses?

    Couples don't get married knowing they can't procreate. You can't compare the 2

    Homosexuals can't procreate.
    >PENIS + PENIS = 0% CHANCE OF PROCREATION
    >0%

    >VAGINA + VAGINA = WHERE IS THE SPERM?
    >HOW DOES THIS EVEN WORK?

    People get married for the sole purpose of procreating, starting a family. This can't be refuted.

    Obviously this is impossible when dealing with the LGBT community.
    So we are seeing words trying to be re-defined like 'normal' and 'gender' and 'marriage'.

    I could go on.
    Fact of the matter is you need to stop being a hypocrite and accept other peoples beliefs.
    You aren't tolerant at all. You are intolerant. Stop trying to force your beliefs on others!!!!
    >> !OPIATE9fy. 05/09/12(Wed)20:13 No.3056126
    >>3056102
    both are just a SICK sexual fetish and one is more tolerated than the other
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:13 No.3056127
    >>3056097
    there is no legal basis for fag marriage either.


    after the civil war, poll taxes were required. there was no legal basis for striking them down.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:14 No.3056142
    >>3056102
    logical progression
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:14 No.3056144
    >>3056117
    >Couples don't get married knowing they can't procreate. You can't compare the 2
    Holy shit you are fucking stupid. Old people get married all the time knowing the woman can't reproduce any more. It's not about reproduction, it's about committing to a person you love.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:14 No.3056154
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    >>3055796
    I know of one where everyone is accepted, though everyone is a sinner, and though sin is not accepted.

    At least, if it's being done right. I grant you, it's being done wrong by to many people.

    And I'm out, gotta go read politico.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:14 No.3056156
    >>3056077
    You're kidding right. More and more people are supporting rights for gays especially young people. Eventually gays will get the support of the majority.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:14 No.3056162
    >>3056117
    Neither one of my heterosexual brothers has any intention of ever having kids. Should their right to marriage be denied? Same for women over 50 who (re)marry.

    Also, you disregard the possibilities of adoptions, in vitro, or surrogates. Gay couples raise families, just differently.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:15 No.3056169
    How can gays call themselves normal when normality is defined by the most common trait in a related case?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:16 No.3056184
    >>3055815
    I would be happy to tolerate female gaysex if they would find some better looking lesbians. I'll even hold the camera for them.

    I am just that nice a guy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:17 No.3056200
    >>3056102
    ill lay it out for you. To these people both are perverted

    >both perverted both the same thing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:17 No.3056207
    >>3056127
    >there is no legal basis for fag marriage either.
    Two consenting adults of sound mind. There is no legal reason why they can't enter a contract together. The only reason people bring up is prejudice and bigotry. Also the incredibly laughable "dictionary defense," which is unimaginably stupid for the simple reason that dictionaries are descriptive, not prescriptive. They update every few years, add words and drop words, change entries. They describe the lexicon AS IT IS USED, they don't forbid or prescribe grammar.

    And honestly, using a fucking WORD DEFINITION decide something like the right to enter into a contract with literally NOTHING ELSE standing in the way is completely retarded. I could probably craft a few metaphors to show you how asinine it is but I really think it should be self evident.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:17 No.3056211
    >>3056184
    >i would even hold the camera for them
    lost it

    anyway, dykes were a part of the worship of Freja.

    I think these "Pagans" should instead realize that they are not Pagans at all, but - like I said - just a bunch of Christians. You cannot be Pagan and anti-racist. You cannot be Pagan and homosexual or even tolerate homosexuality. You cannot be a Pagan and not want to have only as racially healthy children as possible. You cannot be a Pagan and believe in "free love". You cannot be a Pagan and at the same time be what Christians call a "humanist".

    When it comes to homosexuality, there are other rules in the Pagan philosophy for women, though. Women are free to choose how they shall live. The Pagan women often used their Freyr priests only for "uncomfortable" mating, and when not producing children preferred the company of other women instead, and this was seen as perfectly acceptable. The difference between men and women in the Pagan society was in other words not just "suppressive" to women. Women had special rules to follow, but also special rights - because men and women are different.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:17 No.3056219
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    Gay Marriage:
    Because you aren't truly free unless big nanny government sanctions your behavior.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:18 No.3056223
    >>3056162
    Yes, they raise them to be mentally ill.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:20 No.3056260
    >>3056223
    But all of my gay friends are from heterosexual families!

    And the friend I have from a gay couple gets more pussy than anyone else I know!

    Back your shit up with some science or get the fuck out. No study has ever shown what you are asserting.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:20 No.3056268
    >>3056127
    >>3056057
    Not the same person, and I haven't read this thread, so this point has probably been made, but in case it hasn't, the case for gay marriage is being made, if I understand it correctly, in terms of the right to form a contract. Essentially, two people can't form a contract if one party isn't considered capable and competent of understanding the terms of the agreements (e.g. if they are animals or under the age of consent). Basically, if two competent adults would like to enter a marriage contract, their gender is irrelevant. That's a pretty solid case for gay marriage, IMHO.

    The counter argument is that this will lead to pedo marriage, marriage between humans and animals, or humans and rocks, but this is an invalid argument, as inanimate objects and animals lack a basic level of cognitive ability required to enter a contract, and children do not meet the age of consent required to enter into a contract.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:20 No.3056269
    >>3056219
    The government is already restricts their behavior. They wouldn't have to fight for the right to be married if people didn't try to ban it for no reason.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:22 No.3056295
    >>3055894
    see
    >>3055888
    NO EXCEPTIONS
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:23 No.3056310
    >>3056144
    yeah you can't just say THIS IS THE ONLY REASON PEOPLE GET MARRIED. It's not the case.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:23 No.3056313
    >>3056268
    Thank you for slamming every single fag hater in this thread. You, my sire, deserve a harem of women of your own pick to use as you see fit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:24 No.3056319
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    I hate gays and i hate religiousfags too.

    I guess i won't make a decision and just observe from the sidelines seeing as it's tough to side here.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:24 No.3056325
    I don't see the big deal of letting them get married. The churches wouldn't have to marry them if they don't want to. I don't understand how two dudes getting married effects anyone else. They aren't asking for a religious wedding, all they really want is the contract. Two people can't sign a piece of paper because they're the same sex? That's dumb.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:24 No.3056328
    >>3056207
    >>3056268
    Air-fucking-tight legal argument. Bigots have nothing on this.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:24 No.3056330
    lol @ fags
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:25 No.3056346
    >>3056269
    There is no "right" to get married. If anything, government should get out of the marriage business for everyone. If marriage is simply the state sanctioning of sex partners then why are they involved at all?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:25 No.3056348
    >>3056313
    Fags are morally degenerate and mentally ill. They lack the capacity to enter into a contract i.e. marriage
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:26 No.3056355
    >>3055981
    >all indications are that SCOTUS will...

    And, if they do, THEN you can say they've rules on same-sex unions = marriage. Until then, they have not so ruled.

    But if you're still speaking to me, was THAT the rationale for the Cal. Supremes to overturn their amendment? I never heard how a constitutional amendment could be ruled unconstitutional -- that would explain it.
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    >>3056313
    Hehe, defending gay marriage seems like an odd way to get laid, but hell, I whatever works I suppose.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:26 No.3056362
    >>3056319
    Strictly speaking, marriage does not fall in the realm of religion in the United States. The US government does not recognize religious ceremonies as legally binding, the only thing that makes a marriage legal in the US is a notarized marriage certificate. You can be married in a courtroom by a judge. The religious ceremonies are completely optional and largely traditional.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:27 No.3056371
    >>3056346
    >There is no "right" to get married
    SCOTUS disagrees, take it up with them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:27 No.3056376
    >>3056022
    Those fucking rednecks.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:27 No.3056388
    >>3056313
    what about me? I've been slogging against these assholes for the last 3 fuckin hours!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:29 No.3056407
    >>3056328
    when Miscegreation laws got struck down, nobody imagined fags would get married.

    when fags got married, nobody imagined pedos getting married

    when pedos got married, nobody expected beastialityfags to get married
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:29 No.3056412
    >>3056095
    NOT, Is NOT going to happen.

    Fucking computer...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:31 No.3056437
    >>3056144
    >It's not about reproduction
    0/10
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:32 No.3056459
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    >>3056407
    when beasitality fags got married, nobody imagined hentai fags would get married to pillows.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:32 No.3056462
    >>3056346
    Because marriage comes with rights. How do you not know this? Marriage has been tied up with the state for as long as we can find written records. A few of Hammurabi's laws had to do with marriage vows.

    Granting privileges and rights to married couples gives incentive to marry, which traditionally was to encourage procreation. Since that's no longer an issue for most first world nations (except Japan), perhaps the time has come to remove some of the marriage privileges. Some of the marriage rights I think should stay, like visitation and inheritance, but others concerning taxes don't really need to be there.

    Were there no rights and privileges tied up in marriage this would not be an issue. Gays could easily find non-legally binding ceremonies to satisfy them if that's all it took. The problem is attaining those legal privileges that straight couples currently enjoy.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)20:32 No.3056463
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    >>3056356
    Let's just agree to disagree on this and hate ponies instead.
    Ponies are much worse than anything gays could ever be, even if everything Republicans say is true...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:33 No.3056465
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    >>3056407
    OK, then explain how minor could get married, when they don't meet the minimum age of consent to enter into a contract, and a contract is required to enter into a marriage?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:34 No.3056483
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    State defines what it wants to recognize as marriage.

    >NO< BLACKS AND WHITES USED TO HAVE LAWS AGAINST MARRYING! NOW THEY CAN MARRY! IT'S JUST THE SAME FOR GAYS! THAT'S THE PRECEDENT!

    What about pedos?

    >FUCK OFF YOU AND YOUR SLIPPERY-SLOPE FALLACY.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:34 No.3056488
    >>3056371
    Yeah keep spinning that. And the government should just get out of the marriage business if that is all it amounts to. Take care of all this with contract law.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:34 No.3056497
    >>3056483
    >What about pedos?

    Read:
    >>3056268
    >>3056207
    And shut the fuck up you daft cunt.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:35 No.3056505
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    http://youtu.be/pR9gyloyOjM
    If you watch this and still think homosexuals should not be afforded the same rights, then you are a sick sociopath.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:35 No.3056509
    >>3056465
    Requiring a contract is obviously discriminatory against those who can't do so. Surely they have their rights? Can't deny somebody their rights...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:35 No.3056513
    >>3056483
    >What about pedos?
    Why do bigots know NOTHING about contract law?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:35 No.3056514
    >>3056162
    >Neither one of my heterosexual brothers has any intention of ever having kids. Should their right to marriage be denied?
    >Same for women over 50 who (re)marry.
    How does comparing something that is natural to something unnatural make something that's unnatural any more natural?

    It doesn't.

    >Also, you disregard the possibilities of adoptions, in vitro, or surrogates. Gay couples raise families, just differently.
    >just differently
    I can imagine.
    Kids don't even know what gender means anymore. You have no idea what's going on
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:37 No.3056537
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    >>3056463
    Sorry, but ponies are trendy and socially acceptable, just like same-sex marriage. How does it feel losing the culture war?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:37 No.3056541
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    >>3056459
    >Dat milkshake
    >>3056463
    ...fuck ponies.

    you know whats worse than ponies?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:37 No.3056542
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    >>3056142
    Going from marriage between two consenting adults to marriage between an adult and child. That sounds like a very logical progression.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:38 No.3056561
    >>3056465
    this may be difficult for your pathetic autistic excuse for a brain to comprehend-

    LAW CAN CHANGE.

    pedos will scream discrimination if we let these deviants get married, eventually after a few decades, will push for their sick fetish to be legitimized. they will say minimum age laws are discriminatory, and libfags will agree. durr.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:39 No.3056582
    >>3056542
    >going from marriage between two races to between two men seems like vary logical progression
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:40 No.3056599
    >>3056561

    then there's this:
    >>3053068
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)20:40 No.3056604
    >>3056514
    >Unnatural
    There are Gay animals good sir
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:41 No.3056622
    >>3056561
    You still forget that CHILDREN CANNOT CONSENT TO A LEGAL CONTRACT BETWEEN ADULTS. A child is not an adult. The fuck do you idiots not get this?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:41 No.3056624
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    >>3056582
    Yes, because it's between still consenting adults.

    How many times are you people going to make me facepalm?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:41 No.3056626
    >>3056604
    yes, in very few species, mainly to get their rocks off. the proper term would be bisexual animals anyway.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:42 No.3056637
    >>3056582
    Going from consenting adults to more consenting adults.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:42 No.3056641
    >>3056582
    thank you for proving my point
    >>3056624
    it doesnt matter. way back when, niggers also werent allowed to enter into contract. wonder why that changed?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:42 No.3056644
    >>3056604

    there are also paedophile animals, infant-killing animals, shit-eating animals

    cancer and meningitis are natural too
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:42 No.3056648
    >>3056462
    >>3056268
    consenting adult in one state is not a consenting adult in another.

    nothing you are saying makes any sense.
    you just said you don't support pedophilia but it's happening everywhere.
    how can 5 people be right about the age of consent?

    stop hiding behind this word and provide numbers.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:43 No.3056653
    >>3056514
    >naturalistic fallacy
    Oh boy. Guess what? Humans are a part of nature. It's true, we have a taxonomic classification and everything, we're not some special fully formed entity that sprang from the head of Zeus into the natural world.

    We define what goes on in nature as "natural". Since we are a part of nature everything we do is too. Also, homosexual behavior is observed in other animals to. Out in what you would probably call "nature" in the most limited and restrictive sense. It is a "naturally" occurring behavior in that it manifests without artifice or human intent. It is also a minority behavior in that only small subsets of any given population will show homosexual tendencies. So in that sense it is not "normative" behavior, in that it does not describe the majority of the population. That doesn't make it automatically wrong though. Minority groups can be positive. Geniuses and naturally strong people are also extreme minorities that occur naturally.

    The argument of what is "natural" is ultimately one which demonstrates the arguers unfamiliarity with humanity's place in the larger scheme of the natural world as well as how one defines normative behavior.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)20:43 No.3056660
    >>3056641
    The Supreme court reversed it's own ruling where it said they weren't people. :P
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:44 No.3056680
    >>3056637
    going from consenting adult and subhuman ape (at the time) to consenting adults to consenting child and consenting adult.

    you really cannot into history can you?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:45 No.3056693
    >>3056648
    A consenting adult, at the least, is going to be 16 years of age which is in Georgia. If we give adults the rights to marry a fucking 14 year old then we will have to give the same rights to fucking children as we do to adults.

    The right to vote, carry firearms, own property, fucking etc.

    IT'S. NOT. GOING. TO. HAPPEN.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:45 No.3056694
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    >>3056561
    Look, it comes down to an issue of consent. Two adults can enter into a contract together, while a child lacks this ability. Have you ever stopped to consider that legalizing gay marriage does absolutely NOTHING to change the nature of marriage on a legal level (i.e. a contract between two consenting adults), nor NOTHING to open the door to minors being able to enter into a marriage? If anything, it leaves the door open to the legal recognition of polygamy, but that's another story.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:45 No.3056696
    >>3056604
    homosexuals are not animals driven by instinct.

    get your hate speech out of this thread
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)20:46 No.3056700
    >>3056680
    CHILDREN(and poland) CANNOT INTO CONSENT
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:46 No.3056705
    Even when homosexuality was considered normal (and even elegant), EVEN BACK THEN THERE WAS NO SUCH THING AS GAY "MARRIAGE"!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:46 No.3056711
    >>3056660
    >:P
    GTFO AND BACK TO 9FAG


    perhaps the states will, when pedos scream discrimination, strike down the discriminatory age of consent laws. durr.
    >>3056693
    15 in Sweden, able to say 'i do' in Saudi arabia
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:47 No.3056723
    >>3056700
    >children cant consent
    back then, neither could niggers
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:47 No.3056728
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    >>3056641
    All that post accomplished was showing that you're a racist in addition to a homophobe.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:48 No.3056743
    >>3056648
    1: you don't know what pedophilia is, because nowhere in the united states is a 10 year old given the right to consent.

    2: people under 18 can actually be legally married with their parents permission. The exact age at which this is legal varies on state to state, I think the average is 16. They still require their LEGAL GUARDIAN to consent on their behalf because they are technically not allowed to enter a contract until they reach their majority, barring special circumstances like legal emancipation from their legal guardians. Such instances are handled on a case by case basis, the person who is legally emancipated can be declared to have reached their majority before the age of 18 if the process is successful.

    3: you still have absolutely no argument against why two legally consenting adults can't enter a contract with one another.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:48 No.3056744
    >>3056693
    >"georgia says the age of consent is 16"
    >"that goes for the rest of the world as well"

    are you that thick?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:48 No.3056748
    Amendments like this are in direct opposition to the first amendment. Legislation like this is unAmerican, and people in favor of it are traitors and statists.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:48 No.3056753
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    i guess no male-male kissing in public is too much to ask...

    i can't figure out if it makes me laugh or disgusts me, somewhere in between i guess

    btw obama just put a bow on the entire fag vote in case no one noticed
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)20:48 No.3056757
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    >>3056711
    >implying emoticons are in any way connected to 9fag
    11/10 Potatoes
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:49 No.3056768
    >>3056728
    and yet you still cannot beat the argument? pathetic. you are a shame to jews everywhere
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:49 No.3056769
    >>3056696
    >my guts tell me to suck a dude's dick
    >even though it's a bad thing, spreads diseases and makes me see other people as objects, I obey and do it
    >I'm not an animal driven by instinct
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:50 No.3056777
    >>3056711
    Did you fucking flunk geography? DID YOU FUCKING FLUNK GEOGRAPHY?! Is fucking Sweeden in fucking America? Oh yeah! It's right next fucking door to Cali-fucking-fornia. What the fuck does other countries have to do with this? Other countries have gay marriage, so the fuck what, who the fuck cares? We're talking about HERE in America.

    Are you people that fucking thick and dense?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:50 No.3056785
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    Homosexuals already have the right to get married. They just don't want that one. If a gay man wanted to marry a gay or straight woman, nobody could stop them. But they would rather change everything around to suit their lifestyle and call you 'intolerant' for objecting. They want government to give them the blessing their parents would not. Then they are magically 'accepted' and 'normal'... and boring and tedious. But I'll be a full fledged supporter of 'gay marriage' if government requires one to appoint himself/herself as the 'man' for the purposes of getting fucked over in the divorce. Then and only then are you really married.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:50 No.3056792
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    >>3056723
    Okay. Adults are adults. Children are children. An adult "nigger" is still an adult.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:50 No.3056794
    Meanwhile government surveillance expands and people keep bitching about fags marrying.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:51 No.3056798
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trial_as_an_adult
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:51 No.3056802
    >>3056753

    fags can vote?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:51 No.3056810
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    >>3056769

    When a straight girls "guts" tell her to suck a guys dick, is that a "bad thing" that "spreads diseases" and makes her see other people as objects?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:53 No.3056847
    i'm a homophobic for gay marriage - why should heterosexuals be the only ones to suffer?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:54 No.3056853
    >>3056792
    children by whos standards? by saudi arabian standards, able to say 'i do' is old enough.
    >> Pollfag !!P+HaC0oezMo 05/09/12(Wed)20:54 No.3056855
    >>3055887
    You suck more cocks than Lucy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:54 No.3056859
    >>3056798
    criminal intent =/= legal consent

    retard
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:54 No.3056869
    >>3056794
    Yes, I agree. Still, the legalization of gay marriage would be a major victory for civil rights.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:55 No.3056874
    >>3055353
    Why not?
    Are there any benefits of marriage legally?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:55 No.3056881
    >>3056853
    We live in America shitcunt. In America 18 is the standard age of consent with the bar being a bit lower from state to state. For a comprehensive reason on why you're full of shit, please read:>>3056743
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:56 No.3056892
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    >>3056810
    >implying anything but consensual sex in the missionary position without contraception is moral
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:56 No.3056897
    >>3056859
    >definition of 'tried as an adult'
    >somehow not a child
    DURRR

    seriously. at one point niggers could not into contracts. eventually, children will be able to into contracts. then pedos will demand to be able to marry them
    >>3056881
    >America
    >the ONLY place fag marriage is an issue
    ISHYGDTT
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:56 No.3056903
    So, why can't gay people just get the benefits in society that married couples get? The religious aspect is fine, if the Chuch does not want to accept gay marriage then they can't get 'married', but I see no reason they can't get the same benefits
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:57 No.3056916
    Obama comes out and supports it after the vote in NC goes down? Politicing.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:58 No.3056930
    >>3056903
    currently merely one simple reason: lawyers
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:58 No.3056931
    >>3056903
    they insist on calling it marriage. if the fags and fag enablers called it civil union, nobody would give a fat fuck.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:59 No.3056941
    >>3056916

    It would be politicking if Obama supported gay marriage after NC voted in support of it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:59 No.3056947
    >>3056931
    they ain't doing that due to critical theory
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)20:59 No.3056952
    >>3056931
    entire Republican Platform in VT in 2000 was to repeal Civil Unions.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:59 No.3056955
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    >>3056853
    Yeah no. 18 sounds like a good enough number to me. Way to go making an ignorant assumption though. I know it's mind boggling that someone can support the rights of two consenting adults that aren't bothering anyone and at the same time be against child molesters.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)20:59 No.3056956
    >>3056931
    It's a name, who the fuck cares? If they could get it named differently but get all the rights still attatched to marriage, would you care?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:00 No.3056963
    They don't care about equality or acceptance. That has already been won.

    All they care about is the tax break that comes with filing under "Married".
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:01 No.3056978
    What if instead of getting married they could become Buttbuddies?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:01 No.3056980
    >>3056952
    >Vermont
    >the least productive state in the union
    i think we can safely ignore them.

    try and get somewhere that wasnt 12 years ago in a state with more than >1% of the population of the country?
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:02 No.3057007
    >>3056980
    You're just mad that My vote counts for more than yours.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:03 No.3057024
    >>3057007
    eh... no?
    im pretty sure that Texas has the say of about 15 vermonts
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:04 No.3057042
    >>3056892
    >anything but consensual sex
    duh, any sex without a consent is technically a rape
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:04 No.3057044
    >>3056963
    Not just tax breaks.
    >Adoption privileges
    >Next of kin status
    >Joint property rights
    >Visitation rights
    >Life support decisions
    And about a thousand other rights and privileges married couples enjoy from their state-issued license.

    The fact of the matter is, "marriage" is a secular contract sanctioned by the state, granting certain rights and privileges to the parties involved. The state does not give a single fuck about your church, or your tradition, or your ceremony. You can duel with katanas on top of a speeding convertible and call that your ceremony for all the state cares.

    It's a secular contract. Adults can enter into contracts regardless of their genders or the gender of the other party. There is no legal basis for discriminating here, only religious pandering.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:04 No.3057047
    >>3056980
    you said nobody, not almost nobody...
    and the least productive state in the union is claifornia. we aren't bankrupt or full of illegal immigrants
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:05 No.3057054
    This whole notion that same sex marriage will lead to pedo marriages and human/animal marriages is just an absurd example of the slippery slope fallacy. I mean, my not just outlaw marriage altogether? Think about it. A marriage between a man and a woman of the same race leads to the legal recognition of inter-racial marriage, which (allegedly) leads to gay marriage which will (allegedly) lead to pedo marriages and human / animal marriages. So assuming this absurd progression is correct, wouldn't the imperative be to outlaw marriage altogether to staunch the risk of this happening?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:05 No.3057057
    >>3056897
    You are really, really dumb. I know that gets thrown around a lot in a vague, meaningless way, but holy shit are you stupid. You do not understand the difference between criminal intent and legal consent. Those are two different legal matters, you're trying to prove that because a child can have criminal intent they can also legally consent, and there is absolutely no precedence for this.

    Blacks were kept in a place of subjugation by a combination of hypocrisy and bad pseudoscience. Lawmakers were forced to deny the humanity of blacks to justify their enslavement, because to admit they were human beings would be to admit they were unlawfully depriving them of the rights guaranteed a human being by the United States constitution. The rights always existed, they just had to clear out the pseudoscience bullshit first.

    Until similar discoveries are made about children and their capacity to function at the level of adults of sound mind, they will remain subjugated.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:06 No.3057067
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    why the fuck isn't this on >>>/b/
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:06 No.3057073
    >>3057047
    >california least productive
    ehh, by GDP, vermont is behind Puerto rico...

    but i agree, California (#1 on the GDP) is still a shithole
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:06 No.3057090
    >>3057024
    Texas as a state. BUT...
    VT gets 1 representative, and 3 electoral votes, despite having not enough population for either. So my vote as an individual is worth almost double the vote of someone in Texas. The only state more overrepresented than VT is Wyoming.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:08 No.3057113
    >>3056897
    This is an issue about gay marriage in America you dumb fuck. What we decide here doesn't mean shit anywhere else. Our laws don't apply to other countries.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:08 No.3057123
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    >>3057042
    is it?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:09 No.3057138
    >>3057044
    >You can duel with katanas on top of a speeding convertible and call that your ceremony for all the state cares.
    best religion ever
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:09 No.3057139
    >>3057113
    tell that to the people who try and sue thepiratebay...
    also the US government
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:10 No.3057146
    >>3056931
    Marriage is a legal term with legal privileges. Civil Unions do not grant the same rights and privileges and marriage. It's not a matter of semantics, they're using the legal names of the contracts. If they were called State Sanctioned Coupling Alpha and State Sanctioned Coupling Beta the argument would remain the same, because SSC-B doesn't grant the same rights and privileges and SSC-A.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:10 No.3057155
    >>3057090
    ahhh, i see your point.

    you seriously dont even qualify for a SINGLE representative?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:10 No.3057156
    >>3055620
    But I don't call water wet. In it's liquid state water is anti-dry. And in it's solid state water is dry, not wet. You say some things simply are, but I say some things are not what they seem.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:12 No.3057174
    >>3057155
    Theres like 5 states that don't
    but the constitution guarantees each state at least one. If it didn't VT would have 0 and California and texas would have like 4 more each
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:12 No.3057175
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    I really don't get this, if the objection to gays being able to marry is because of the notion that marriage is a religious institution, then why then are athiest couples allowed to marry? Don't recall seeing anybody getting butthurt over that.

    Honestly, the people going on and on about the "sanctity of marriage" might have a better argument if over half of hetero marriages didn't end in divorce.... it's not like gays can do much worse.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:15 No.3057218
    >>3057139
    Nothing I said changes. If other countries bend over to be buttfucked by our government then let them, that doesn't and shouldn't have any bearing on our lawmaking process. It's the United States Congress, not the Congress of the World.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:18 No.3057279
    Liberals really can't into religion, can they? To them the organized religions are so evil because they won't let an unnatural process take place. I'm no Christian, but at least I understand that they believe their supposed all powerful being is against it enough to allegedly destroy two cities thousands of years ago.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:18 No.3057286
    >>3057175
    It's cherrypicking, pure and simple. They're fighting for the only fights they haven't already lost. The bible also condemns race-mixing, but we all saw how that worked out in Loving v. Virginia. Atheist and inter-religious couples also go against their "traditional" definition of marriage, as do infertile couples, and the stupidly high divorce rate. But they know they're not going to be able to win any of those fights, they're long since lost, so they pick on one of the few marginalized groups left that they can get away with degrading.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:19 No.3057295
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    Remember when everything wasn't gay
    remember when men were men and women were decent women

    yeah, me neither

    thankfully I still have the motherland to fall back on when the US officially comes out of the closet
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:20 No.3057309
    >>3057279
    >Religion
    >Any bearing on law

    Pick one
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:20 No.3057312
    >>3057279
    Let them believe whatever the fuck they want, but if religion is what they base their opinion on, it has no place in legislating a secular government.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:22 No.3057341
    >>3055620
    Yeah no, that's complete horseshit. If marriage were that tautologically grounded it wouldn't need religious zealots to ban people from it, it would naturally resist homosexual unions. But it doesn't, it readily includes homosexuals because it's a human social contrivance, not a natural fact of existence. Water won't stop being wet and up won't stop being up if nobody is around to defend it. It will keep on being true regardless.

    So if you're really so confident that marriage is only between a man in a woman, if you REALLY think it's THAT powerfully true, just let gays get married. If you're right, those marriages will magically dissolve because the laws of nature won't let it be. If you feel compelled to intervene and break up the marriage then you will be admitting you are full of shit and marriage isn't sacred at all.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:22 No.3057348
    i wonder how much this will alienate black voters
    is obama on the downlow?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:22 No.3057354
    >>3057312
    >>3057309
    It has plenty of bearing when it it the means by which people lead their lives. If they believe the "right" thing to do is to oppose gay marriage by all means then they'll do it. Just because there's a separation of church and state doesn't mean voters have to adhere to it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:23 No.3057361
    >>3057174
    huh. learn something every day
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:24 No.3057385
    >>3057309
    "thou shalt not kill"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:24 No.3057388
    "Well, faggots, looks like everyone is disillusioned with me, so I'm going to need every fag vote I can get. Internal polling suggests that I won't lose the nigger vote if I pander to the fags, so I guess it's safe (and necessary at this point) to throw you a bone."

    Hey gay people, how does it feel to be cynically pandered to?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:24 No.3057392
    >>3057354
    It means that the elected legislators should never bring forth any such amendment that is based on religious grounds, and the courts should overturn any such legislation.

    This isn't something that should have even come to a vote. Civil rights are not decided democratically.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:24 No.3057400
    >>3057295

    Bullshit!, Stormfront has more gays than most fag bars.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:25 No.3057415
    http://chanarchive.org/4chan/pol/45683
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:26 No.3057431
    I bet OP is ecstatic about this news as it is directly related to him.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:26 No.3057433
    >>3057385
    Murder is condemned in damn near every society ever because it infringes on a person's inalienable right to live.

    Your ten commandments mean jack shit. Last I checked adultery was legal, just frowned upon.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:26 No.3057434
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    >>3057354
    >personal morality has no place in law
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:26 No.3057445
    >>3057415
    /pol/ cured me of my /b/tardation
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:27 No.3057461
    >>3057279
    Guess what? My parents were legally married by a judge. Nary a bible or a church to be seen. It was a judge who married them. Legally binding under the law.

    Religion has absolutely no legal weight in the arena of marriage. You can be married in a church with full religious ceremony and the state will not give a single fuck if you don't have an official marriage license signed by the bride and groom. People can be married in any religious tradition they want, in any secular tradition they want. People who say "leave marriage to the churches" have no clue that churches are about as relevant as the Las Vegas casinos some people get married in. Maybe we should ask them for their take on marriage.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:28 No.3057469
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    >>3057433
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:28 No.3057479
    >>3057392
    Well they are. And it is.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:30 No.3057500
    >>3057469
    Are you suggesting that you want a theocratic United States? Sounds like high treason to me.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:30 No.3057510
    >>3057500
    >implying that United States law is the worlds law
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:30 No.3057511
    >>3057479
    And that's a PROBLEM. The fact that they're doing it does not make it not unconstitutional.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:31 No.3057521
    >>3057510
    How in the actual fuck did I imply that in any way, shape, or form?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:31 No.3057525
    >>3057461
    You don't understand what I'm saying. If you hold a vote in a predominantly christain, especially protestant, area then THEY WILL VOTE AGAINST IT. It has nothing to do with what actually is right or any of that. Because a guy in the sky they worship says is bad they believe it and do what they can to stop others from sinning.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:33 No.3057553
    >>3057525
    That's why SCOTUS exists, to overturn dumb ass, unconstitutional decisions made by uneducated ignorant peasants. Checks and balances y'all, oh shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:33 No.3057563
    >>3057525
    It shouldn't be put to a vote in the first place unless the state can present a compelling, non-religious reason as to why the amendment would be necessary.

    Civil rights are not decided democratically. Constitutionality overrules local religious fervor.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:33 No.3057565
    >>3057521
    "religion has no bearing on law"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:34 No.3057570
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    >Lolberals all pretending that gay rights = civil rights

    It's not. It's not even close to the same.

    Deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:34 No.3057579
    >>3057565
    We are discussing United States law, dumbass, because that's where the debate is happening. That's where North Carolina is, that's where the President who just spoke out is.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:34 No.3057581
    >>3057565
    Not in the US it doesn't dipshit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:35 No.3057594
    >>3057579
    >implying America is the only place where Fag marriage is an issue
    >>3057581
    "tax breaks for churches"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:36 No.3057609
    >>3057594
    >implying America is the only place where Fag marriage is an issue
    We're not talking about the world you insufferable cretinous shit pile. We're talking about gay marriage IN THE UNITED STATES. Jesus Christ on a bicycle you're fucking retarded.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:37 No.3057623
    >>3057594
    Well go make your own damn thread for gay marriage elsewhere. This thread is about Obama and North Carolina.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:37 No.3057627
    >>3057581
    at least for now, but soon mudslimes are going to take over there just as they did with france cuz you guys don't have any children
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:37 No.3057632
    >>3056952
    >entire Republican Platform in VT in 2000 was to repeal Civil Unions.


    Hell, it's still part of the platform. I still see freshly painted "Take Back Vermont" signs in my little corner of the northeast kingdom.

    Republicans who say they would be fine with giving gays the same rights under civil unions are LIARS.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:38 No.3057654
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    >>3055974
    >>3056100
    You guys make valid points Conservatism is there to keep liberalism in check it's a yin and yan thing. But, Conservatives are always pushed further and further down the line.
    (This is just an example: Slavery is abolished leads Jim Crow laws)(liberals set the bar, conservatives fight to stay at that newly acquired level, liberals set it higher, repeat)
    It's a cycle.
    >Today's liberal is tomorrows conservative
    In fact you can come and say liberalism and conservatism are not enemy's but they reinforce each other nicely. in effect Conservatism is the reason why liberals exist and Liberalism is why conservatism exists

    Also Communist is an example of liberal ideas that were not kept in check by conservative ideologies and vice versa for Germany and Japan.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:38 No.3057658
    >>3057594
    >tax breaks for churches
    Yeah, and? How exactly does this have any bearing on the law? Any church can apply for those tax breaks, not just christian ones. There are also tax breaks for uncountable secular reasons as well, it's not like only churches get tax breaks.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:39 No.3057673
    >>3057632
    that can't be true, No one lives in the Northeast Kingdom
    Captcha nowan Lvvess
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:39 No.3057677
    >>3057632
    Rick Santorum was actually a presidential candidate, running on a theocratic platform and promising to annul all currently-existing gay marriages and civil unions nationwide. This fucker had the support of MILLIONS of people and was actually the second-most viable candidate the GOP offered.

    That's fucking terrifying.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:39 No.3057678
    >>3057658
    your mom is so fat she gets tax breaks
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:40 No.3057690
    HOW IS THIS NEWS!!!!!!!!!

    How is this sticky worthy?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:41 No.3057716
    >>3057677
    actually he was first viable because Romney only wins in states where Obama wins
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:41 No.3057717
    >>3057609
    Like it or not, this will have an influence on other countries.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:43 No.3057755
    Only leftists care about gay marriage. yeah i support fags getting "married" but compared to the economy etc. this is a nonissue that has no bearing on anyone's lives.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:44 No.3057776
    >>3057673
    Some do. It's it's mostly all crunchy granola hippies growing weed, and backwards rednecks running meth labs.

    The latter love them some Jeebus and hate homos. Parts of the North East Kingdom are like a little slice of Mississippi right here in New England.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:44 No.3057786
    >>3057755
    Fucking cut that shit out and read >>3054225
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:45 No.3057803
    >>3057658
    "tax exemption for churches"

    is the tax not a form of government coercion, thus part of the law?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:47 No.3057830
    >>3057755
    >Conservatives create and pass legislation to ban gay marriage
    >Liberals are the ones obsessed with it.

    DERP
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:47 No.3057833
    >>3057803
    Hence why we exempt religious institutions from them, so as not to coerce or interfere with the free practice of religion. I don't understand your point.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:48 No.3057856
    >>3057830
    >fag marriage
    >EVER legal
    durrrr

    you fail to realize that fag pride is 99.99% comprised of libtards
    >> Pollfag !!P+HaC0oezMo 05/09/12(Wed)21:48 No.3057866
    Jews like me control all the stickies.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:49 No.3057887
    caused by the Republican party being full of closet QUEENS.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:49 No.3057888
    >>3057856
    >Homosexuals lean towards the side that doesn't berate them and tell them they're going to hell and try to remove their civil rights.
    GEE, I NEVER WOULD HAVE GUESSED!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:49 No.3057892
    >>3057786
    except you worry about this an excessive amount because you have no grasp of economics. i know i remember being a leftist. we only cared about social issues, we thought "wahh, those poor black folks don't have any money and the fags can't get married and whores can't have abortions if the govt doesn't pay for it" I get it. I used to be leftist too. but these are non issues. any social issue the leftists might be right about like allowing gay marriage is completely negated by their total fascist ideology which strips our freedoms where it actually matters and steals our money and turns us into a poor shithole country like greece or italy.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:49 No.3057893
    >>3057833
    "special privilege for the churches"

    NO, CHURCH HAS NO INFLUENCE IN THE LAW AT ALL DURRRR
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:51 No.3057924
    >>3057856
    It's legal in every other western country.

    It's legal in 8 states. It will be 10 soon.

    And soon either California's Prop 8 or DOMA is going to get up before SCOTUS and get overturned.

    Deal with it. Nazi.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:51 No.3057935
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    >>3057866
    >>3057866
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:51 No.3057938
    >>3057893
    We're trying to keep the OUT of the law, and keeping the law out of THEM. We're putting up a brick wall between the state and the church, not imposing taxes on them, and expecting them to not influence legislation. Unfortunately, only one end of this bargain is being held up, and that's a problem.
    >> Pollfag !!P+HaC0oezMo 05/09/12(Wed)21:54 No.3057970
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    >>3057935
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:54 No.3057976
    >>3057924
    Fag marriage is legal in Ireland? what about mexico? Luxembourg? Monaco?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:55 No.3057994
    i was born to hate fags, when i was born my first words were fuck those fucking faggots, even though i didnt know what a faggot was i still hated faggots. My parents, friends, family, and peers had nothing to do with my hate for fags and their fag way. Fags are disgusting because to accept being a fag is to be a fag your self.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:56 No.3058006
    >>3057776
    I know, I've been. I was joking about the fact that there's >7,000 people there. Here in chittenden county we have towns with more than double the population of your entire county.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:57 No.3058012
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >>3054005
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:57 No.3058020
    >>3057924
    Not in France. And guess what? The 5-4 conservative majority on the court means they will up hold the bans. Even if they do overturn it 40 states have exisiting bans on gay marriage, plenty to make a constitutional amendment banning it,
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)21:58 No.3058043
    >>3058020
    we need 2/3. 2/3 of 50 = 34 (gotta round up)
    40 > 34

    welcome to math fags and fag enablers
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)21:59 No.3058055
    >>3058020
    But also would need 2/3 of house and senate. Too many Dems for that.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:00 No.3058071
    >>3058020
    as well as germany, austria, switzerland, poland, all of eastern europe, finland...

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Europe
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:01 No.3058085
    >>3058055
    remind me, how did that democratic supermajority work out in 2010?
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:01 No.3058092
    >>3058043
    It's 3/4 of the states BTW... so you need 38 states And don't forget it's the legislature that decides...
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:02 No.3058114
    >>3058085
    That is exactly my point. A republican supermajority would have the same problems.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:03 No.3058137
    >>3058020
    Even Scalia has stated that these laws are clearly unconstitutional.

    Prop 8 might not go down, but you're high if you think DOMA wont.

    DOMA was written specifically to circumvent the constitution, so it obviously unconstitutional.

    And you're high if you think you're getting 38 states to pass such an amendment to the constitution.

    You're going to lose, fucktard.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:04 No.3058143
    >>3058092
    38. so we can afford two swing states. great!

    dont forget that the democrats are dropping like flies in congress.
    >>3058114
    yes, with killing off stupid liberal bullshit like fag marriage, affirmative action, welfare...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:04 No.3058146
    >>3058092
    Fine by me. The GOP controls most state houses. Face facts: Americans are opposed to gay marriage.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:05 No.3058156
    >>3058137
    40 states already ban fag marriage. most by constitutional amendment.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:06 No.3058168
    >>3058137
    > gay marriage bans are consistently passed
    > I'm going to lose
    Ok, sure thing Mary.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:07 No.3058194
    >>3058156
    The court will eventually overturn that. You know this, don't you? It will take time, but it will happen.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:07 No.3058197
    >obongo the shameless nigger endorsing anything he can to get butthurt queer votes regardless of what he actually does or how honest of a person he is or any other characteristic that should matter

    such is politics in america, especially in the left
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:08 No.3058211
    >>3058194
    >the court will declare that constitutional amendments are unconstitutional

    how is that freedom of speech working out for you?
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:09 No.3058230
    >>3058143
    >Implying that every state which bans gay marriage is controlled by republicans who would vote for this amendment...
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:10 No.3058247
    >>3058211
    The Supreme Court can overturn State constitutional amendments if they violate the US constitution.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:11 No.3058257
    >>3058247
    sause?
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:12 No.3058275
    >>3058257
    Read the 14th Amendment.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:12 No.3058281
    >>3058211
    Read a history book. Simple as that. Change is inevitable. You are on the losing side of history.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:13 No.3058303
    >>3058257
    reality. it's called the incorporation doctrine. lrn2constitution.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:13 No.3058313
    >>3058257

    the fucking US Constitution. you should try reading it sometime
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:15 No.3058331
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    >implying this wasn't politically motivated
    >implying obama give a shit about anything except scoring points for reelection
    >implying this excuses his other abuses, such as the signing of the NDAA for which he cannot be forgiven.

    What good is gay marriage if it's in a police state?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:16 No.3058348
    Guys you don't get it
    moot IS a fag
    as in moot likes dicks
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:16 No.3058354
    >>3058331
    >implying NDAA turned the US into a police state.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:16 No.3058359
    >>3058156
    Washington
    Iowa
    Maryland
    Vermont
    New Hampshire
    Massachusetts
    Connecticut
    New York

    Those states explicitly allow it and will almost certainly vote against such an amendment.

    Since it's up to state legislatures, and not a popular vote, you can probably count on Oregon, Illinois, California, New Jersey, Rhode Island, and Delaware voting against as well.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:18 No.3058387
    >>3058275
    except that did not turn over a constitutional amendment to a state constitution. part of reconstruction was they had to re-submit a new constitution
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:18 No.3058395
    >>3058211
    >Freedom of Speech

    That has absolutely nothing to do with anything.

    Gays getting married has ZERO impact on your life.

    Fuck off.
    >> Reptar !15Ayr.pb9Y 05/09/12(Wed)22:18 No.3058399
    It doesn't matter what he thinks about it. Only the states can decide if they recognize it as legal or not. There's a line in the constitution that says "It is up to the States to protect the rights, and morals of their citizens."
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:19 No.3058408
    gays could marry any time they want.

    there's a baptist church in houston texas that marries gays.

    but that's not what they want.

    they want government benefits.

    get government out of marriage and everyone wins
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:19 No.3058418
    >>3058387
    No, but it allows the court to do so. the Supremacy clause also applies here.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:19 No.3058421
    >>3058387
    Do you even know what the 14th Amendment says?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:19 No.3058422
    >>3058257
    The Civil War
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:20 No.3058434
    >>3058359
    8/50 do not bring the total below 38/50

    Illinois outside of chicago is conservative as fuck, and so is Delaware and Jersey. dunno bout rhode island, agree on california (even though they have republican leaders) and dunno bout oregon.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:20 No.3058444
    >>3058257
    Also Texas v White

    Multiple rulings have established the supremacy of federal law over state law
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:21 No.3058455
    >TFW the libfags are eating this shit up
    >TFW they seem to ignore the fact that he was against it a few years ago because *Hurr he changed!"
    >TFW at the very same time, they criticize other politicians for flip-flopping
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:22 No.3058466
    >>3058444
    and yet again, federal law does not supersede constitutions. derp?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:22 No.3058479
    >>3058359
    No actually those states had gay marriage forced on them by the courts. Gay marriage has never won at the ballot box.them
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:23 No.3058484
    >>3058408
    >they want government benefits.

    Yes, heaven forbid that a couple who has lived together for decades be allowed to inherit eachothers social security if one of them dies.

    Heaven forbid they be able to visit eachother in a hospital.

    Fuck off with your bullshit lies.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:23 No.3058488
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    >>3058399
    >he thinks states will get the last word on this.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:23 No.3058497
    >>3058466
    federal constitution supersedes state ones. If the Supreme court rules that gay marriage bans violate the US constitution, state constitutions are then meaningless.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:24 No.3058517
    >>3058479
    No. Half those states passed it legislatively.

    Any more lies, taliban scum?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:24 No.3058523
    >>3058484
    Yea, they aren;t married. Those rights belong to married couples and a married couple is one man , one woman.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:25 No.3058526
    >>3058466
    Federal law is supreme over state law, state constitutions are state law
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:25 No.3058528
    >>3058484
    write a damn will, you turd
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:25 No.3058536
    >>3058497
    5/4 conservative majority. sotomyer the 'wise latina' is a latina, and spics hate fag marriage more than any other group.
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:25 No.3058537
    >>3058479
    >only forced by courts
    Vermont passed by legislation, and in response democrats and Progressives gained an even bigger majority in the legislature the next election.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:25 No.3058544
    >>3058517
    I'm sorry, is passing somehting in the legislature the same thing as a popular vote?
    Any more lies AIDS ridden subhuman?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:25 No.3058546
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    >>3058395
    >Gays getting married has ZERO impact on your life.

    Oh you delicious libtard. You do know this is all about money, right? If "gays" are allowed to marry, they can setup their "spouse" to receive lavish benefits like family health insurance. If this happens, expect the price of health insurance to skyrocket and as a result companies will need to charge more for their products which effects the average person. If "gay" Federal and State employees can give their "spouse" family health insurance, that is going to increase costs and thus taxes.

    Honestly, you leftists are so fucking dumb or the most disingenuous creatures ever to walk this planet.

    tl;dr Susan gets artificially inseminated and she takes months off from her job for maternity leave, her "partner" Elizabeth the Federal worker while not involved with the birthing process at all - also gets to take maternity leave.

    And two dykes just stole a few thousand dollars our of your paycheck
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:26 No.3058548
    >>3058536
    that's not even remotely true. atleast, polling says it's not.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:26 No.3058561
    >>3058523
    why should people who are married get more rights? how does me sticking my dick into someone equate to them being eligible for benefits?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:27 No.3058579
    >>3058561
    because you produce children idort.

    What do you think the tax cuts are for?
    >> Brosef Stalin !ZkBkc8zDUo 05/09/12(Wed)22:27 No.3058580
    >>3058544
    >>3058537
    Indirectly it did
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:27 No.3058582
    >>3058479
    Yet banning it has lost.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arizona_Proposition_107_%282006%29
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:27 No.3058585
    >>3058548
    5:4 conservatives to liberals. are you libtards too stupid to even visit the website and see who appointed whom?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:28 No.3058592
    >>3058546
    so you're saying that despite the fact that everyone is required to buy health insurance, gays getting family plans for their health insurance will drive up costs massively?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:28 No.3058595
    >>3058582
    1 time out of 41
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:29 No.3058605
    >>3058546
    You're not Christian are you?
    >> Reptar !15Ayr.pb9Y 05/09/12(Wed)22:29 No.3058609
    >>3058488

    They should. It says it right there in the constitution.

    This isn't really at the top of Obama's priority list. He doesn't give a shit if gay people can get married he just wants their money before election time.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:29 No.3058610
    when government began regulating marriage, they fucked everything up

    marriage is a promise of commitment, that is all...i don't want any government benefit
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:30 No.3058611
    >>3058592
    >everyone required to buy health insurance
    Unconstitutional

    Suck it libtard
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:30 No.3058612
    >>3058434
    It doesn't matter whether a state's population is liberal or conservative. It only matters what the state legislature is.

    Illinois' legislature is very liberal.

    >>3058546
    >they can setup their "spouse" to receive lavish benefits like family health insurance.

    OH THE HUMANITY! A COUPLE THAT SPENDS THEIR LIFE TOGETHER WILL HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT OTHER COUPLES HAVE. THE SKY IS FALLING.

    No. You are fucking retarded. Gays getting married will have an infinitesimal impact on health insurance costs. You have no fucking clue what you're talking about whatsoever.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:30 No.3058615
    >>3058579
    but the tax cuts arent for children. you get the tax cut regardless of you producing children, and there's a separate tax cut for people that have children that doesnt require them to be married. seriously, please stop talking about taxes until you've actually had to fill out a tax form.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:30 No.3058617
    >>3058546
    Where did you get that doomsday prediction, Fox News? The editorials on WSJ? How large do you think the homosexual population is? It's probably in between one every ten to one out of every twenty people.

    If it does increase the cost of insurance it will be marginal, probably not statistically significant from any other year we're gouged with cost increases.

    Regardless, this isn't just an issue of cost, it's an issue of ethical principles.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:30 No.3058621
    >>3058582
    >40/50 ban it
    >1 tries and fails to bring it to 41/50
    nigga please
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:30 No.3058629
    >>3058585
    I was referring to you implying hispanics were homophobic, you illiterate dumbfuck.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:31 No.3058635
    >>3058585
    Anthony Kennedy is a swing voter. Try again please.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:31 No.3058640
    >>3058611
    mmm nope.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:31 No.3058642
    >>3058610
    It has literally never NOT been part of it since the beginning of the US.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:31 No.3058645
    >>3058612
    >admits the poster point is valid and claim it has very little impact
    >says that the poster has no idea what they are talking about because it doesn't agree with their gay world view and communist agenda

    Leftist confirmed for dumb fucks
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:32 No.3058655
    Obama gets massive amounts of campaign contributions from LGBT groups. one of the reasons DADT got repealed was because of the amount of money that got poured into his election campaign.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:32 No.3058657
    >>3058595
    Not sure where you're from, but it hasn't been voted on 41 times in the United States of America...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:32 No.3058660
    it's an issue of ethical principles.

    Each time we bring up ethics I get the feeling the Baptists and wingnuts haven't a clue we actually value things like ethics, professionalism & honor.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:32 No.3058661
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    "Privilege" is the liberals take on Original Sin

    It's fucking uncanny how 100% similar they are.

    >You're born with it
    >You can't get rid of it
    >You didn't do anything to get it
    >You don't really deserve it
    >It's because of who you are
    >IF YOU DO EXACTLY WHAT WE SAY YOUR ENTIRE LIFE MAYBE YOU CAN GET IT FORGIVEN.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:33 No.3058666
    >>3058629
    >nearly universally catholic
    >pro gay marriage
    pick one
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:33 No.3058671
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    >>3058661
    >Comparing it to fundies
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:33 No.3058672
    >>3058635
    >Kennedy
    >swing vote

    He is conservative 7 times out of 10. This, however, is something he has seemed more liberal on.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:35 No.3058687
    >>3058666
    are you fucking retarded? Most of the countries in the world where it's legal are Catholic. Polling has shown Catholics are far more supportive of same-sex marriage than the general public.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:35 No.3058694
    >>3058585
    Except Scalia has already opined that laws banning samesex marriage are unconstitutional.

    And Roberts has tended to lean a little liberal on civil rights issues.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:36 No.3058706
    >>3058666
    >pick one
    why? to stop from being redundant?
    http://www.care2.com/causes/majority-of-catholics-support-gay-rights-and-civil-marriage.html

    remember, american catholics are basically all heretic liberals.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:36 No.3058708
    >>3058694
    If so, he would ethically have to recuse himself. Oh I know, I know, who does THAT anymore.

    I'm just old fashioned.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:37 No.3058717
    >>3058672
    Let's hope he votes in favor of the healthcare. or at least the important parts of it that is.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:39 No.3058740
    >>3058687
    >italy
    ban
    >france
    ban
    >san marino
    ban
    >Switzerland
    ban
    >Austria
    banhammer
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:40 No.3058753
    >>3058645
    No, you're point is not valid, because your claim that gay marriage will cause insurance prices to "sky rocket" is false.

    As is your ridiculous assumption that I'm a "leftist" simply because I don't treat millions of American citizens like subhuman scum. That kind of binary thinking is indicative of a sub-par intellect. You should probably abstain from calling anyone else retarded.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:41 No.3058778
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    I thank whomever made this thread into a sticky.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:43 No.3058796
    a smart mod is my guess. Thanks here also.
    >> The Slavic Caligula !O.N1d/WL9c 05/09/12(Wed)22:43 No.3058803
    >>3058740
    Don't forgot Poland and Czech Republic also banned.
    It's illegal in all Orthodox Christian countries as well as Bosnia, Kosovo, and Albania (Muslim lands)
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:45 No.3058823
    >>3058803
    >>3058740

    >implying that has anything to do with american catholics.
    >implying american catholics are against gay marriage.
    >> PsychoShaman !atRGpKodwc 05/09/12(Wed)22:45 No.3058832
    >>3052759
    And NC
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:48 No.3058876
    >>3058823
    >American catholics
    >pro gay marriage
    American catholics dont even accept evolution as possibly maybe sort of correct the way the pope does. why would they be more liberal on this?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:49 No.3058880
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    >Spend my youth in Iraq and Afghanistan killing religious zealots who want to make everyone follow their beliefs.

    >Come home to a country full of religious zealots who want to make everyone follow their beliefs.

    Maybe I should just start killing these fucks again. Would certainly make me feel better.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:49 No.3058885
    >>3058823
    >america
    42/50 banhammer
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:50 No.3058894
    >>3058880
    i think you mean 'religious people who want you to stop occupying their country'.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:50 No.3058896
    >>3058876
    >American catholics dont even accept evolution as possibly maybe sort of correct the way the pope does.
    uh yes they do. you're thinking of evangelicals which are a completely different group.
    >why would they be more liberal on this?
    well because polls show them to be in favor of it?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:50 No.3058902
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    >Obama cites personal opinion
    >every acts like some legislation is about to happen
    What a retarded non-issue, everyone who supported gay marriage was already going to vote Obama, everyone who didn't already hates him.This is a non issue, it won't change any significant voting bloc, and it does not deserve a sticky.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:52 No.3058913
    >>3058885
    40/50

    Give it a few more years, as the old christfags die off it will gradually go down to 0/50.

    That's assuming SCOTUS doesn't drag you backwards rednecks into the 21st century kicking and screaming.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:52 No.3058917
    >>3058880
    Just let them die off. Opposition to gay marriage correlates with age. Most bans will be reversed within 20 years, I promise you.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:52 No.3058922
    >>3058880
    There is more truth in this than I care to acknowledge.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:52 No.3058931
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    >>3058885
    >thinking state laws matter when the feds get involved.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:53 No.3058936
    >>3058913
    >everyone who disapproves of fag marriage is a redneck
    ISHYGDTS
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:55 No.3058975
    >>3058936
    THIS.

    im sure there are a bunch of wasps against it too.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:56 No.3058985
    >>3058894
    No.

    3/4 of the people we were fighting were religious zealots from other countries. Mostly Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Yemen, Pakistan.

    The other 1/4 were poor ass dirt farmers planting IEDs for a few bucks. I felt for them.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:56 No.3059001
    ITT: Retards who think churches are the only entities who marry people.

    That just confirms that most of pol's population is under 14.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)22:57 No.3059002
    >>3058975
    Rednecks is a nice blanket term for retarded christfags who think their stupid little book is the end all be all of society.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:00 No.3059049
    those same damn bible thumpers still believed Saddam had WMDs 5 years into the Iraq War. They think Creationism is a real possibility despite all scientific evidence and the Rapture is upon us.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:01 No.3059058
    Nice way of trying to appease the liberals without actually doing shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:01 No.3059067
    >>3058936
    >fag marriage
    Maybe you don't enjoy bass fishing, cheap beer, and NASCAR.

    But you certainly are an ignorant, amoral piece of shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:05 No.3059122
    >>3051029
    >evangelicals
    >majority
    >lrn2knowfactsb4hand
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:08 No.3059160
    >>3058985
    mudslimes all support each other. when the soviets invaded afghanistan in the 70s, they had the same problem, and we gave osama b most of his weapons
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:08 No.3059171
    God damn, when did there get to be so many faggot lovers?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:09 No.3059183
    >>3059171
    ...i dont know... its... pathetic
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:10 No.3059194
    >>3051168
    Churches that are ok with gay marriage are the ones that gays will get married in. Churches that don't want to marry a gay couple shouldn't have to, and the government shouldn't be involved whatsoever, civil unions for all.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:11 No.3059204
    >>3051029
    Majority nation wide? No.

    Majority in a lot of southern and midwestern states? Absolutely.

    And given the republican nature of our system of government, this gives them a disproportionate amount of political control at the federal level as well.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:12 No.3059220
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    >>3059183
    >>3059171
    You're beliefs are slowly dying out. Deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:13 No.3059229
    >>3059160
    They had the same problem but to a much higher degree.

    Not everyone who went to Afghanistan to fight against the Russians was a religious zealot.

    Pretty much everyone who poured into Iraq and Afghanistan to fight us was.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:15 No.3059262
    >>3059183
    >Demanding that other people not be afforded the same opportunities because you're insecure with your own sexuality
    >Not Pathetic

    Choose one, faggot.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:16 No.3059268
    Gay Marriage will be legalized by 2032 once the old fucks are dead.
    This thread has been fun.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:17 No.3059279
    >>3059220
    dont worry, you guys failing to reproduce will keep us going
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:17 No.3059283
    >>3059229
    shit like accidentally burning Qurans doesnt exactly help to keep the fundies away
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:19 No.3059302
    >>3059279
    Because only gay parents have gay kids. amirite?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:21 No.3059331
    >>3059279
    The world is getting more and more secular.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:21 No.3059336
    Voting Republican Forever.

    Don't care who is running. Putin, Pol Pot, Hitler's stepbrother's grandson, Jeb Bush.

    Besides, he's pretty much lost a huge chunk of Black America anyway.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:23 No.3059373
    >>3059283
    No, it doesn't.

    Unfortunately the Army does have a vocal minority of Christfags who think they are fighting a new Crusade.

    Were up to me, anyone caught expressing such an opinion would receive immediate discharges. A person could outright leak intel to the enemy and it would be less detrimental to the mission then the activities of these idiots.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:23 No.3059380
    >>3059279
    sure, you guys can keep going. That is until you're dead. Most people that support gay marriage are straight. In the next 30 to 40 years you guys will be a fringe group. Liberalism always wins in the end. History demands it.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:24 No.3059390
    >>3059373
    ...youre kidding? they ACTUALLY think its a GOOD IDEA to tell MUDSLIMES that they are CRUSADERS?

    my mind is so full of wat
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:26 No.3059410
    >>3059279
    Homosexuality has been around since the dawn of time. I don't think they're going extinct...
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:26 No.3059420
    >>3059380
    Napoleon succeeded the liberals of the French revolution. Centrism wins.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:29 No.3059466
    >>3059420
    uhh and then he got booted from power.
    >how does history work?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:30 No.3059489
    >>3059466
    to be succeeded by Centrists.

    politics is a PENDULUM. when it swings too far left, it swings back to the right. See the USSR.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:30 No.3059490
    >>3059420
    To an extent yes. But change is inevitable.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:30 No.3059491
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >>3051384
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:31 No.3059509
    >>3059491
    UNDERAGE B&!!!!111one!!1!
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:34 No.3059555
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    >Obama endorses state-by-state banning of same-sex marriage
    >Headlines everywhere say "Obama supports same-sex marriage!"
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:37 No.3059603
    The only people that annoy me more than faggots are Republicans
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:42 No.3059668
    >>3050923
    He's done NOTHING for most of us. Between shitting on the memory of every black man who has ever faced racism in the military by ending DADT after Bradley Manning committed treason and espionage, threatening to cut off poor Black countries for not supporting homosexual "rights" and bailing out the banks, while doing nothing for poor blacks, he's probably lost a lot of support from the Black community.

    This was pretty much the last straw. Unless he does something BIG for the Black community before the election, he's going to lose about 50% of blacks in this country, especially poor blacks.

    If Romney can promise not to screw over poor minorities, or better yet, HELP poor minorities, he might have a shot at at least a good number of black votes.

    Otherwise, we might just stay home.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/09/12(Wed)23:45 No.3059701
    Why is this a sticky? This is the most unimportant thing
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:45 No.3059713
    >>3059603
    Libertarianbro?
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:46 No.3059720
    >>3050936
    Becasue we have a mission to complete and Bradley Manning commited TREASON and ESPIONAGE. You should be glad that Obama interfered with his tiral by not allowing him to be tired for either of these CAPITAL CRIMES.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:47 No.3059740
    >>3059668
    Army guy from above here.

    Go fuck yourself. DADT was a retarded policy, and you pointing to Bradley Manning just shows you have no fucking clue what you're talking about.
    >> Bglr !!OgKBSutYDpJ 05/09/12(Wed)23:47 No.3059745
    Mods confirmed for Obama-worshipping communists
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:48 No.3059751
    http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/angry-queers-smash-church-windows-in-portland
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:49 No.3059771
    >>3051024
    We will stop talking about gay marriage when gays stop forcing their mental defect on just about every program on TV and every other form of media.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/09/12(Wed)23:49 No.3059778
    >>3059745
    This.
    Really faggots? Really people are homeless and starving in your country and all you care about is.
    >OBAMA HURF ENDORSES GAY MARRIAGE HURF SO MANY DICKS IN MY ASS DURRR FUCK EVERYTHING ELSE ALL I CARE ABOUT IS DICK IN MY ASS HURRRRRRRRRR
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:52 No.3059833
    >>3059771
    Heaven forbid our fiction should imitate our reality, and every 1 out of 10 or 20 characters is LGBT!

    >>3059778
    For fuck's sake stop saying this, it's pants-on head retarded. Read>>3054225
    >>3054225
    >>3054225
    >>3054225
    >>3054225
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/09/12(Wed)23:55 No.3059894
    >>3059833
    America is a degenerate monster.
    You have no morals.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:56 No.3059913
    >>3059894
    >Treating other people badly
    >Moral

    Fuck off, scum
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/09/12(Wed)23:57 No.3059940
    >>3059913
    I'm sorry you think its moral right to make Gay marriage a more important subject than the economy, homelessness, poverty, education, defense etc

    You have no ground to stand on Libnigger.
    >> Anonymous 05/09/12(Wed)23:58 No.3059947
    >>3059913
    >giving fags the same rights as heterosexuals
    >treating them badly
    fag please. try going to Iran and then bitch about being treated badly.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:00 No.3059996
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    >>3059940
    >MFW these are usually liberal issues
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:01 No.3060000
    >>3059947
    How about you go to Iran you un american, freedom hating piece of shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:01 No.3060004
    >>3050951
    >t he'll do as much about gay marriage as Bush did about abortion?
    The problem is the issue surrounding abortion is not the same as two peoples union being recognized by the government.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:02 No.3060027
    >>3059940
    More important? No.
    Important? Yes.

    BUT LOOK, I HAVE THIS AMAZING ABILITY TO COLLATE KNOWLEDGE IN MY HEAD AND HAVE OPINIONS ABOUT MORE THAN ONE ISSUE AT A TIME!

    I CAN SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS AND PROTEST FOR CAMPAIGN FINANCE REFORM AT THE SAME TIME!

    AND WHILE I'M AT IT, I'LL ALSO PROTEST THE CURRENT STATE OF THE ECONOMY AND THE BUSINESS PRACTICES THAT LED TO IT!

    AMAZING!

    >>3059947
    >DURR HURR OTHER PEOPLE ARE WORSE SO IT'S OKAY FOR US TO SUCK!
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:02 No.3060030
    >>3059996
    No they are not. Liberals have long abandoned the poor working class. Worldwide.
    They are morally empty if the most important topic they discuss is fags marrying while people die.

    Liberalism is cancer.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:02 No.3060031
    >>3059947
    >Iran treats them bad so it's okay if we treat them bad too if it's not AS bad.

    Congratulations. You're fucking retarded. I bet you can't even count to potato.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:03 No.3060041
    >>3060000
    you heretic defiler of quads...

    i love freedom. you have 100% of the rights a heterosexual has.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:04 No.3060049
    >>3060031
    we do not treat them bad. you fags are just upset you do not get your way on everything; its called 'democracy'. you have 100% of heterosexual rights.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:04 No.3060057
    >>3060027
    You sound a bit mad faggot. Why are you so selfish.
    Why do you demand everyone talk about your perverse lifestyle choice while people starve?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:04 No.3060064
    >>3051921
    They also owned slaves and threw their disabled newborns down cliffs before eating blood soup and fucking young boys.

    What a "wonderful" culture Sparta had, We should all seek to imitate it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:05 No.3060069
    >>3060030
    its pathetic how they pretend to care, isnt it. they only care about niggers spics and fags.

    >liberalism is cancer
    you have no idea... Germanbro here
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:05 No.3060077
    >>3060041
    No you don't.

    You fucking hate freedom.

    You're an unamerican piece of garbage. You don't deserve to have been born here. You who would demand liberty for yourself while keeping it from others.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:06 No.3060085
    >>3060064
    >slaves
    seems legit
    >threw disabled newborns away
    good for them. Eugenics was practiced by every nonjudochristian culture. its beneficial. downs syndrome didnt exist for them.
    >blood soup
    wat?
    >fucking young boys
    most pedos molest young boys.
    >>3060077
    name one freedom fags dont have that heterosexuals have.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:06 No.3060088
    We already knew he was in favor of. Now he's actually manning up and admitting it. IMO he's on even footing with Romney now for actually standing for what he believes in
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:07 No.3060099
    >>3060049
    >>3060041
    QUIT TELLING THIS FUCKING LIE YOU PIECES OF SHIT.

    REPEATING IT 1000 TIMES DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE.

    HOMOSEXUALS DO NOT ENJOY THE SAME RIGHTS.

    SAYING OTHERWISE JUST SHOWS WHAT AN INTELLECTUALLY DISHONEST PIECE OF SHIT YOU ARE.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:07 No.3060101
    >>3060041
    Not this fucking argument again. Read the fucking thread, we've discussed it a thousand times over.

    Loving v. Virginia.

    A black man and a white man both had the right to marry someone of their own race. The argument didn't hold up then, it doesn't hold up now. You're cherrypicking which pieces of "traditional" marriage you want to uphold, and disregarding the battle's you've already lost (interracial, inter-religious, and atheist marriages).
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:09 No.3060120
    >>3060085
    The freedom to marry the PERSON THEY LOVE.

    Not just an arbitrary person of the opposite sex.

    Marraige is about love, not biology. If you think otherwise your an even bigger piece of shit then I thought.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:09 No.3060122
    >>3060101
    im sorry, but do heterosexuals have the right to marry within their own gender? no? then it would seem that fags and heteros are 100% equal. except in AIDS deaths.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:10 No.3060139
    >>3060120
    why... they do have that freedom! a heterosexual who is in love with the same gender still cannot get married! neither of us have that right! therefore, both are equal you stupid queer
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:10 No.3060143
    >>3060122
    >Did a white man have the right to marry a black woman? No? Then it would seem that blacks and whites were 100% equal in marriage rights.

    Argument didn't hold up then, doesn't hold up now.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:12 No.3060161
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    >HURRFFFF DURRFFSSS HOMOS HAVE THE SAME RIGHTS WHY DO THEY WANT SPECIAL RIGHTS DURRRFFSSFFSFSF

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9gyloyOjM&feature=youtu.be

    You people are FUCKING RETARDED
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:12 No.3060183
    >>3060143
    they did have the same rights. or rather, the lack thereof. deal with it niggerloving fag.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:13 No.3060190
    Since the government is clearly in favor of endorsing traditional marriage on the grounds that provides a stable base for a family, and I have yet to see any studies saying that adopted kids of a gay couple grow up to be abnormal when compared to a sampling of adopted kids raised by a straight couple, I don't see why the government wouldn't extend to a gay couple the same legal rights as a straight couple
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:13 No.3060192
    >>3060139
    If someone were in love with a member of the same sex then they wouldn't be a heterosexual, now would they you fucking idiot.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:13 No.3060205
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    >>3060161
    you just got owned by the good anons of this board who speak rational truth.
    You are the retard. You have equal rights as everyone else.
    Take your butthurt to a fag forum.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:15 No.3060223
    >>3060122
    No. Heterosexuals have the right to marry someone they love. Homosexuals do not.

    That's what this is about. LOVE

    But you wouldn't understand that would you, you sociopathic faggot.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:15 No.3060230
    Like it or not, it's just a tax issue. They already have all the same deal as marriage via their civil unions. It is about being able to file taxes jointly. There is NOTHING stopping gay couples from putting rings on each-others fingers and having ceremonies.

    >Issue is a distraction and bullshit.
    >Caring about gay marriage
    >2012
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:16 No.3060245
    >>3060192
    irrelevant. if a homo wants to marry a lesbian, it is permitted. if a hetero wants to marry his bro, it is not.
    >>3060223
    Heteros do not have the right to marry a man.
    a Homo does not have the right to marry a man.

    they have the same rights.

    if you arent queer, why do you get so emotional?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:16 No.3060247
    >>3060205
    How about we arrange a time and place, and I'll come kick your lilly white ass?

    The last time I was in a fight, it was over this too.

    The feeling of that ignorant little fucks teeth piecing through his lower lip and impacting on my fist is a memory I treasure.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:16 No.3060251
    >>3060205
    Tailoring the law to specifically discriminate against a target group is not 'equal treatment under the law.'

    Would it be fair if we outlawed redheads, and said "hey your rights aren't infringed, you can dye your hair and be brunette or blonde like everyone else!"
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:17 No.3060267
    >>3060143
    >>3060143
    >>3060143

    Quit comparing blacks and homosexuals, the two situations really have nothing to do with each other because nobody asks to be born black! Blackness is physical, homosexuality is behavioural.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:17 No.3060271
    >>3060230
    Except civil unions do not grant NEARLY the same rights as marriage licenses, even excluding the tax benefits.

    Separate is not equal.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:17 No.3060273
    >>3060251
    the law is to defend marriage. deal-with-it. you take a Judochristian institution and then expect them to bend over to your gay rape?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:18 No.3060281
    >>3060245
    And if homosexuals are given the right to marry eachother, then heterosexuals would also have the right to marry someone of the same sex.

    No one is getting "special rights" as you mental defectives claim.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:18 No.3060288
    >>3060251
    Marriage is not a right.

    >deal with it
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:18 No.3060292
    >>3060247
    you are on 4chan. you therefore have zero street cred, and are incapable in a fight. (/fit/ and /k/ being obvious exceptions)
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:19 No.3060299
    >>3060273
    It is not a Judeo-Christian institution.

    It's a universal human institution.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:19 No.3060302
    >>3060281
    we arent claiming special rights. we are saying you bitching about being inequal is complete and utter bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:19 No.3060305
    >>3060267
    >implying people ask to be born gay.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:19 No.3060307
    >>3060273
    It wasn't a Judeochristian institution the instant it was adopted by a secular government. The bible condemns interracial marriages, or non-religious marriages, or inter-religious marriages just as much as it condemns homosexuality. The state, on the other hand, gives no fucks about any of the former complaints, so why should it care about the last one?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:20 No.3060317
    >>3060288
    Actually it is, dumbass.

    The Supreme Court both say so.

    DEAL WITH IT CHRISTFAG
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:20 No.3060320
    >>3060299
    you cannot into the sacraments, can you.

    tell me, what is the origin of the word marriage?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:20 No.3060331
    >>3060288
    Loving v. Virginia disagrees.

    Feels good having legal precedent on my side.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:20 No.3060334
    >>3060305
    being queer is a choice, or (my personal theory) a reaction to being sick of cumdumpsters bullshit
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:21 No.3060338
    "omg what was obama thinking this will cost him the election in 2012"

    he only won in '08 because youth came out like never before to support him. new polling shows up that indicates youth around the country don't feel like voting this november. suddenly a wild obama appears to endorse a movement that youth around the country overwhelmingly support. how is this not obvious to you dumb fucks.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:21 No.3060351
    Liberal changes his mind: "Evolving"
    Conservative changes his mind: "Flip-flopping"
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:22 No.3060352
    >>3060305

    You aren't born gay, shithead. Read Alfred Adler and Gerard Aardweg.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:22 No.3060362
    >>3052222
    Citations required.

    Marriage was created to create stable HETEROSEXUAL families for the purpose of procreation. Straight couples who do not have children get benefits in the hope that they will have children of their own or adopt.

    While it is disappointing when straight couples do not have children, it does not mean that homosexual couples should have those same privileges any more than furries or scat fetishists.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:22 No.3060364
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    >>3060247
    lol militant queer?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:22 No.3060366
    >>3060292
    >implying those aren't two boards I frequent (/sp/ and /g/ also
    >implying this is 2005 and everyone on 4chan is a neckbearded virgin
    >implying I didn't kill an insurgent with my hands in Mosul
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:22 No.3060368
    >>3060352
    wait... if fags are born, maybe we can genetically engineer the faggotry out of the interwebz!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:22 No.3060370
    >>3060334
    Tell that to my numerous LGBT friends who hate putting up with conservatard bullshit and would relish the opportunity to escape it all and be straight.

    No one would ever choose to go through this bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:23 No.3060379
    North makes slavery illegal, drags the south kicking and screaming into the future. I see the same shit happening here.

    Also funny how almost every southern state gets more in federal $ than they pay in taxes but every northern state is a net donor. Why do we always have to do everything for you guys?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:23 No.3060381
    >>3060320
    >>3060320
    uh numbnuts. marriage existed long before the english language was around and in places all over the world that had no contact with judeo-christians.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:23 No.3060389
    >>3060317
    >>3060331
    I'm not religious.

    >Cites legal precedent that says marriage is a right
    >Will get mad if reminded that corporations are people
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:24 No.3060397
    >>3060362
    So it's okay to give non-reproductive heterosexuals rights in the hopes that they'll adopt, but not homosexuals, who are far MORE likely to adopt?

    >retard logic
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:24 No.3060404
    >>3060370
    Faggots do you or do you not understand that putting cock in the ass of another man is a choice?
    Just like getting drunk is a choice.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:24 No.3060405
    >>3060334
    so what would it take for you to decide to like taking a big dick up the ass?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:24 No.3060406
    >>3060389
    or that we can copyright life
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:24 No.3060412
    >>3060302
    Except it isn't, you fucking tool.

    A committed gay couple can not get married. And as such, they cannot enjoy the many privileges and opportunities that go along with that.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:25 No.3060419
    >>3060381
    yet there was never such thing as gay "marriage", even when homosexuality was regarded as something usual and even graceful
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:25 No.3060426
    >>3060397
    without a strong male role model in a childs life, they cannot into life.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:26 No.3060432
    >>3060404
    Tell me, at what age did you decide "I will be attracted to women?" When did you make the conscious decision to decide what will and won't make your dick hard?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:26 No.3060434
    >>3060405
    social pressure and cumdumpster rejection id imagine.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:26 No.3060435
    >>3060404
    having sex is always a choice. you do not however pick who you are attracted to.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:26 No.3060439
    >>3060412
    Why don't you just marry a woman?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:26 No.3060442
    >>3060267
    So then you weren't born straight, you "decided" to be straight?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:26 No.3060450
    >>3060412
    and straight people cannot get married to the same gender.

    fags can marry other genders, and classify it as an open marriage or something like that.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:26 No.3060452
    >>3060434
    so you like dick in your ass then?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:27 No.3060462
    >>3060442
    humans are naturally straight.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:27 No.3060463
    >>3060412
    Why don't you just stick your dick in an electrical socket?
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:27 No.3060471
    >>3060435
    You don't have to act on your feelings. If everyone did there would be more homicide. Especially at fag festivals.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:28 No.3060476
    >>3060426
    It takes a village to raise a child. There's aunts, grandparents, siblings, teachers, countless non-parental role models available to a child if he's so desperate for female attention.

    By your logic, should we take children away from single fathers?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:28 No.3060477
    >Gay marriage isn't legal because it will result in a large amount of gay divorces, showing the world yet another liberal idea that failed miserably.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:28 No.3060478
    >>3060452
    nope. im rather popular with the ladies. along with my good friend Johnnie Walker
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:29 No.3060489
    Homo's can have a marital ceremony, but there's no reason for their marriage to be legally acknowledged.

    Law shouldn't be involved in marriage.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:29 No.3060492
    >>3060450
    >gender
    how do we define gender? what about hermaphrodites? AIS? other chromosomal disorders that blur gender lines?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:29 No.3060503
    >>3060442

    lrn2read idiot

    I never said you decide to be homosexual

    I said two things: you aren't born that way and it's behavioural, not physical

    now, if only you had read the references I pointed, you'd understand a bit about the subject and not just speculate and parrot the slogans the media has put into your head

    read the authors you fucking moron, then we talk!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:30 No.3060508
    >>3060489
    Well then get rid of straight marriage.

    Until you do that, though, legal precedent dictates that denying the right to a specific group is unconstitutional.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:30 No.3060512
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    >>3060476
    no. we should take them from single mothers. far more likely to see abuse.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:30 No.3060518
    Why do homosexuals all sound like 13 year old girls.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:31 No.3060523
    >>3060478
    unlikely
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:31 No.3060524
    >>3060462
    If it's "natural" then are you saying that you made no decision to be straight? You just knew that you were? But i thought you were saying that sexual orientation was a decision. Is it, or is it not?

    Anyway, if being straight is the only thing that is "natural" then how do you explain the existence of gay people? How do you explain the existence of gay behavior in monkeys, apes, and various other animals?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:31 No.3060525
    >>3060512
    So then a child DOESN'T need a mother? Wouldn't two fathers be the best situation EVER for the kid then?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:31 No.3060529
    >>3060489
    >there's no reason for their marriage to be legally acknowedged

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9gyloyOjM&feature=youtu.be

    So what it like being a sociopath, incapable of empathizing with other people?
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:32 No.3060544
    >>3060508
    >hurr so normal people should be denied their rights because i cant push my dick in a gay man and marry him.

    Fag logic.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:32 No.3060551
    >>3060525
    no. the nuclear family is unbeatable.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:33 No.3060562
    >>3060518
    they don't, you're just choosing to hear them that way.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:33 No.3060565
    >>3060544
    He's the one who said to get rid of government-sanctioned marriage, not me.

    I say give it to everyone.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:33 No.3060571
    >>3060508
    What the fuck is "straight marriage?" There is "marriage" it's already a well-defined concept.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:34 No.3060576
    >>3060529
    Kind of rich how libniggers default on claiming people have mental issues when they like to stick their dick in the same sex and cut off their bits.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:34 No.3060579
    >>3060544
    it's not a right unless everyone has equal access to it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:34 No.3060585
    >>3060571
    Then why do you need to push for amendments that specifically define it to exclude homosexuals if it's already defined that way?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:34 No.3060588
    Oh for gods sake, just give it to them. It doesn't hurt anyone, and then they'll stop having all these damn rallies and parades
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:35 No.3060593
    >>3060508
    they have the exact same rights as straight couples to marry the opposite gender.

    with this knowledge, which clause of the constitution makes this unconstitutional?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:35 No.3060601
    >>3060503
    >I said two things:
    >you aren't born that way
    Then what "way" are people born? You seem to be implying that everybody is born exactly the same.

    >and it's behavioural, not physical
    And being straight isn't?
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:35 No.3060603
    >>3060579
    You have equal access to it. You can marry a woman like everyone else.
    Enjoy you miserable life fag.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:35 No.3060606
    >>3060585
    Liberals
    >>3060588
    my tax dollars
    >rallies and parades
    if only...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:35 No.3060607
    >>3060571
    >There is "marriage" it's already a well-defined concept.
    indeed. 1 man can marry a thousand women.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:36 No.3060617
    >>3060576
    Kind of rich how you have no empathy for other people because you a sociopath
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:36 No.3060618
    >>3060603
    everyone else can't marry a woman.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:36 No.3060621
    >>3060593
    Equal protection under the law.

    Specifically tailoring the law, as North Carolina recently has, to specifically exclude a targeted group of individuals is NOT equal protection under the law.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:36 No.3060627
    >>3060588
    They don't stop they get more demanding. Queers have their gay agenda which is political and oppressive.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:37 No.3060634
    >>3060603
    > HURRRRRRRRRRR I'M A SUBHUMAN PIECE OF SHIT AND I THINK THAT MARRIAGE IS ONLY ABOUT BIOLOGY AND HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH LOVE DURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:38 No.3060641
    >>3060627
    >oppressive
    >giving rights to everyone and treating them equally
    W A T
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:38 No.3060642
    >>3060617
    I empathise that a post-op retard is mentally unwell.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:38 No.3060646
    >>3060601
    read the goddamn authors ffs!

    >Then what "way" are people born?
    infants feel no sexual attraction at all

    >everybody is born exactly the same.
    not at all, I'm saying everybody is born the same with regards to sexual attraction: nobody feels it while sufficiently young

    >And being straight isn't?
    yeah, so?
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:39 No.3060653
    >>3060641
    I live in a country where fags are further along than America.

    They hold positions of power they are evil cunts.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:39 No.3060656
    >>3060621
    yet again, defining marriage as between a man and woman does not deny you any right that you do not share with heteros.

    still waiting for that constitutional clause. you are going to rage at the 10th amendment
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:39 No.3060657
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    >>3060627
    THIS.

    fucking queers and their agenda.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:39 No.3060660
    >>3060642
    No, you don't. You're incapable of empathy. You're barely even a human being.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:40 No.3060673
    >>3060646
    When the attraction forms is unclear, and we're still studying it, but one thing is clear: it is not a conscious decision. If it was, I know plenty of LGBT people who would NOT have made the choice, and would relish the opportunity to reverse it.

    Why do you think those "pray the gay away" camps sport such a high suicide rate, disproportionate to both the general population and the gay population?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:40 No.3060680
    >>3060657
    >unaware of cultural marxism, critical theory, Frankfurt School
    >probably has never read a single fucking book
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:40 No.3060682
    >>3060660
    >huurr you don't like my ass sex
    >you not human

    No faggot.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:41 No.3060686
    >>3060656
    >still waiting for that constitutional clause. you are going to rage at the 10th amendment
    you're gonna rage when you learn about the incorporation doctrine. just wait till you get to middle school civics.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:41 No.3060690
    >>3060660
    >being against fags getting married
    >makes you subhuman
    i think you need to reasses what you consider subhuman.

    especially since most of the world agrees with us.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:41 No.3060691
    why is this a sticky?

    are you surprised this black panther neo-marxist piece of shit endorses same-sex marriage?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:41 No.3060693
    >>3060656
    It is a law TARGETED at a specific group to deny them their rights. Don't bullshit me, you know it, I know it, the only purpose of this law was to shut down homosexuals.

    That is not equal protection under the law.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:42 No.3060696
    >>3060682
    Human beings are best defined by their ability to empathize with other human beings.

    You are incapable of doing this. Therefore, you are not a human being.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:42 No.3060701
    >>3060686
    >get asked how being anti fag marriage is unconstitutional
    >have no argument
    >10th amendment leaves it to the states
    >only solution is to flame people
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:42 No.3060710
    >>3060680
    >list of buzzwords
    >think you made a valid point
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:43 No.3060713
    >>3060673
    I don't know about "pray the gay away" camps, but there ARE highly successful psychological TREATMENTS (as in medical care, not some kind of boot camp or something). That means reversing it IS POSSIBLE!
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:44 No.3060731
    >>3060696
    >losing a debate dehumanize your opposition
    >claim ridiculously to be privy to their personal thoughts

    Just like the nazis.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:45 No.3060741
    >>3060713
    >highly successful
    NOPE. Do your research, kid.

    And if you actually look at many of these treatments, especially at these camps, it's pretty much the equivalent of BRAINWASHING, something no licensed psychiatrist will endorse.

    Speaking of licensed psychiatrists, the APA and the DSM they wrote disagree with your assessment of homosexuality as a mental disorder.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:45 No.3060747
    Being gay comes from an abnormality in the brain. Seriously, look at any sane and recent study and it's pretty damn conclusive.

    Just give them the right. It doesn't hurt you, it gets them off your case, and it doesn't hurt society.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:46 No.3060755
    >>3060710
    >call them "buzzwords"
    >don't look them up
    >pretend they don't mean anything
    >laugh at the face of History
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:46 No.3060758
    >>3060741
    "political correctness"
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:46 No.3060763
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    >>3060690
    >most of the world agrees with us
    >we must be right
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:48 No.3060777
    I think it just stems from a lot of men being incapable of living up to societies expectation that they need to be a man.
    Its too difficult for them, not enough masculine rolemodels and feminism proping up females.
    The boys see their female comrades doing well and they think i'll be a cissy girly boy and do well to.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:48 No.3060780
    >>3060656
    14th Amendment:
    "...nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

    9th Amendment:
    "the enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

    Marriage is about marrying the individual you love, not some arbitrary member of the opposite sex.

    That you have to stoop to such mental gymnastics to try and justify preventing other American Citizens of pursuing happiness in their life just shows what a fucking retarded piece of shit you are.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:48 No.3060786
    >>3060755
    they are buzzwords. you're statements are clearly predicated upon the flawed idea that all homosexuals are radical leftists which is clearly not the case.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:48 No.3060787
    >>3060741
    Look, if you don't know what I'm talking about calling me a "kid" as if I'm ignorant won't fix the information gap between us. READING THE BOOKS WILL, GODDAMMIT!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:49 No.3060789
    >>3060763
    if the majority of the world (that being, the majority of HUMANITY) disagrees that being anti fag marriage makes you subhuman, that seems to be pretty blatantly obvious that you sir, you are incorrect.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:49 No.3060790
    >>3060758
    OH BOY MORE BUZZWORDS!

    Time for a brief history of homosexuality in the DSM!

    Homosexuality used to be in the DSM, fun fact! Unfortunately, it was in there almost de facto, with no studies or basis for calling it mental dysfunction. As such, when political pressure came crashing down on the APA in the 70s, they were left with two options:
    >Remove homosexuality from the DSM
    >Justify it with scientific studies backing its status as a mental dysfunction
    They were unable to do the latter, so they had to remove it!

    And that, kids, is how homosexuality got recognized by the American Psychiatric Association as not a mental disorder.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:49 No.3060796
    >thread about Obongo pandering to the gay libruls

    the fuck is this shit?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:49 No.3060801
    >>3060747
    >Being gay comes from an abnormality in the brain.
    no shit, the definition of abnormality is something that deviates from the norm, most men are heterosexual, therefore it is abnormal

    revolutionary discussion here guys
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:49 No.3060802
    >>3060780
    >life liberty property
    check check check
    >equal protection
    actually, above equal protection. see hate crime.

    >9th amendment
    see 10th amendment, cry when it says to leave this to the states
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:50 No.3060814
    >>3060789
    humans dont get to decide what is and isnt human based off of preferences. science determines what is and isnt human and what you stick your dick in isnt actually a factor.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:51 No.3060824
    >>3060777
    Actually, from the DSM-IV definition of gender dysphoria:
    >not merely a desire for any perceived cultural advantages of being the other sex

    Soooooo nope. Failure yet again.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:51 No.3060828
    >>3060680
    dude, you basically just said "I read books about socialism. You've probably never heard of them"

    How hipster can you be?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:52 No.3060832
    I'll say it again: Marriage should not be legally recognized by government. What the fuck is the point?

    If the law wasn't involved in marriage in the first place, we would be focused on bigger problems such as the U.S. ECONOMY! GASP! Same goes for abortion.

    They both involve what's thought to be right. Morals come into play and the laws aren't necessarily moral.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:52 No.3060834
    >>3060814
    >science says faggotry is ok

    No faggot it doesn't don't try to hide behind science. Science is objective it wont ever support your faggotry.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:52 No.3060835
    >>3060741

    http://www.samesexattraction.org/how_many_change-homosexuality.htm
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:52 No.3060841
    >>3060801
    Apparently some people think it's a choice to be gay. Which, I suppose I could see if you're arguing that the sex itself is the choice.

    But then two which I would talk about how the sexual attraction to someone of the same gender is something that they do not have conscious or even subconscious control over, is based on factors that are outside of personal control, and that it hurts no one to have to act upon ones sexual desires if they find someone whom is willing to reciprocate this attraction
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:53 No.3060851
    >>3060841
    schizophrenia is out of your control as well, will you build an imaginary world just to please your fantasies?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:54 No.3060852
    >>3060802
    >Liberty
    NOPE

    >Equal Protection
    You idiots wrote legislation specifically targeting them. NOPE

    10th Amendment says that states can make laws beyond the scope of the powers granted to the federal government.

    14th Amendment says that these laws cannot directly violate the Constitution though, and cannot create laws directly targeted at a specific group of people.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:54 No.3060855
    >>3060841

    how is it NOT a choice to stick your dick up some dudes ass (or vice versa)?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:54 No.3060856
    >>3060835
    Oh yeah, fucking brilliant, cite the people who shill this bullshit! Great source you got there, buddy.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:54 No.3060860
    >>3060789
    >EAT DA POO POO

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euXQbZDwV0w

    yeah anti-fags are really the shining stars of the universe
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:55 No.3060866
    >>3060841
    in the 80s and early 90s, the gay community used "its my choice to be gay" as a reason to acknowledge them.

    Why any gay people are confused about the reason people consider it a choice I'll never know, they made it up.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:55 No.3060875
    >>3060851
    Schizophrenia has diagnosable mental dysfunction and is recognized as such by the APA and the DSM, the experts on mental health and the book they literally wrote on it.

    Homosexuality is not.

    Try again.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)00:56 No.3060876
    ITT: we learn faggots are just as fanatical as Muslims.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:56 No.3060880
    >>3060855
    if it's a choice then prove it. go out and choose to get turned on by some dude sticking his dick up your ass. you must be able to do it because its a choice.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:56 No.3060881
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    >>3060852
    >cannot create laws directly targeted at a specific group of people
    OMG WUT ABOUT LAWS TARGETED AT MUGGERS OR HIT-N-RUNNERS? WE'RE DOOMED!
    >> Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 05/10/12(Thu)00:56 No.3060884
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    >>3050705
    >Flip Flopper !!!!
    PBFFFF
    No no. Our little Pokémon has evolved is all. Such butthurt.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:56 No.3060888
    IT DOESN'T FUCKING MATTER IF IT'S A CHOICE OR NOT.

    IT'S NONE OF YOUR FUCKING BUSINESS.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:56 No.3060889
    >>3060852
    >liberty
    you have the exact same freedom as straights.
    >equal protection
    it refers to not letting people lynch random people and not bothering to investigate because they are black.
    >10th amendment
    states that if it isnt in the constitution it is up to the states. remind me, where is marriage mentioned in the constitution?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:57 No.3060899
    >>3060888
    exactly. getting married makes it our business, since you get tax breaks.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:57 No.3060902
    >>3060875
    >APA and DSM
    >not have an agenda
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:58 No.3060907
    >>3060855
    having intercourse is a choice, your sexual preference isn't

    i've been told by tons of homosexuals that they wish they were straight to avoid the stigma and confusion

    you have no idea what you're talking about, just stop now man
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:58 No.3060910
    >>3060851
    If it doesn't hurt me, I don't see why the hell someone can't do what they want.

    Schizophrenia is usually treatable or manageable with the right programs. And I suppose that if someone who was gay wanted to start taking pills to suppress their sexual urges, there would be nothing wrong with that. But someone being gay and wanting to have sex with other gay people doesn't affect me
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:59 No.3060920
    >>3060902
    Hey, they're the ones backing their shit up with scientific research into the human mind and behavior. You're the one citing MUH TRADITION.

    I'd rather trust the people who went to school for a decade to study this shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:59 No.3060921
    >>3060907
    in the 80s and 90s the fag community used 'it is my choice to be gay' as their standing point. which is it?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:59 No.3060924
    >>3060852
    that's not what it says
    > No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.

    Basically, it's the fact that states can't selectively enforce laws. Letting only CERTAIN men marry CERTAIN women would be in violation. However, the laws is simply referring to a man-woman relationship, and does not deprive ANYONE from having a legal relationship like that.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)00:59 No.3060926
    >>3060880
    Technically speaking, sexual arousal is non-voluntary
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:00 No.3060935
    >>3060907
    >DURR IMMA GET LOATHED CUZ I CHOSE TO MARRY GAY PEOPLE AND HAVE INTERCOURSE WITH THEM BECAUSE MY SEXUAL PREFERENCE WASN'T A CHOICE
    >POOR ME!!!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:00 No.3060943
    >>3060855
    What gender they are sexually attracted to is not their choice. How they act on it is. So then, are you saying that they should not be able to act on their sexual attraction, and if so, why?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:01 No.3060948
    >>3060889
    OK LETS GET ONE THING STRAIGHT HERE, YOU STUPID FUCK. I'M NOT GAY. ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE GAY TO SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS. THAT YOU ASSUME ANYONE WHO DOES SUPPORT GAY RIGHTS MUST BE GAY THEMSELVES JUST ILLUSTRATES WHAT AN INBRED RETARD YOU ARE.

    Now...

    Gays do not have the same rights, no matter how many times you want to lie about it. They don't. Saying otherwise is a lie.

    On the second two, the supreme court disagrees. On several occasions. Educate your self, goddamn.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:01 No.3060956
    >>3060935
    please point me to the argument in your post, because i can't find

    i'm heterosexual, i just don't see why you give so much of a shit about someone else's sexual preference
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:02 No.3060963
    >>3060920
    you obviously don't know jack shit.

    The DSM removed homosexuality from itself because they didn't consider it a DISORDER, it was simply a symptom that might manifest due to a variety of OTHER disorders (post traumatic stress disorder, gender dysphoria, etc)

    They removed it because it wasn't SIMPLY a disorder, it was far more complex and not a standard response.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:02 No.3060966
    >>3060924
    Letting only CERTAIN sexualities marry people that they're attracted to IS targeting them.

    This isn't about targeting genders, it's about targeting sexualities.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)01:02 No.3060973
    >>3060948
    Only in the west do libniggers such as yourself fanatically support issues that have no relevance to your life.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:02 No.3060974
    >>3060920

    this just evidences the information gap

    I'm not citing tradition, I'm citing people who actually went to school and did research on this stuff: >>3060352

    now for the last time: YOU READ THE AUTHORS, THEN WE TALK! IT'S REALLY A PAIN IN THE ASS FOR ME TO STOP DISCUSSING EVERYTIME TO LECTURE YOU!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:03 No.3060987
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    >Gays have the same rights as everyone else
    >Marriage is about biology not love. They should just marry someone they don't love
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:04 No.3060999
    >>3050885
    Or they don't vote or vote for a Third party...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:04 No.3061004
    Man, /pol/ sure is a silly place.

    Should be interesting seeing this place on election day. I wonder if it's anything like /v/'s E3 days.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:04 No.3061005
    >>3060963
    You may wish to note that they're really having to stretch the definition of "mental disorder" to even be able to fit gender dysphoria in the DSM any more.

    It's a "disorder" without dysfunction. The person is of perfectly sound mind, and can enter into contracts, so why can't they choose who they want to enter these contracts with? Why should their gender affect who they can enter into a contract with?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:05 No.3061009
    >>3060956
    nobody is discriminated for feeling sexual attraction because no one knows what other people are feeling, people are discriminated for VOLUNTARILY BEHAVING SOMEWAY!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:05 No.3061020
    >>3060973
    Then why do you so vociferously oppose it, you fucking hypocrite? Why do you get so involved in issues that have nothing to do with you, you fucking hypocrite.

    Kill yourself.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:06 No.3061026
    >>3060974
    I choose to read the authors of the DSM, some 36,000 or so licensed and practicing psychiatrists.

    You choose to read a few crackpots who are disregarded by the consensus.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:07 No.3061044
    >>3061026
    sause that they are disregarded?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:07 No.3061045
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    >>3061026
    >truth by consensus
    >claim civil rights when people democratically reject same-sex "marriage"
    fuck logic!
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)01:08 No.3061051
    >>3061020
    Thats not an argument. No i wont kill myself. You asshole.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:08 No.3061052
    >>3060966
    but that's not what the case is.

    marriage is a specific type of union. No one is preventing them from making that union. The issue is that they want the ability to make that union with anyone they want, and there is no precedent that the government must recognize someone's desire to apply the law in a wider DEFINITION than it already exists as.

    It's legal for me to shoot someone on my property if they are uninvited. Why not if they are invited? Why can't I just shoot anyone? Why are you targeting ONLY those people who are not invited to my home as being people I can shoot?

    Laws have a scope. marriage laws only apply to a particular scope (the male/female relationship) and while gay marriage laws are certainly constitutional, that doesn't mean that defining marriage as the male/female contract it has always been is inherently unconstitutional. It deprives NO ONE of ANYTHING.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:08 No.3061061
    >>3060973
    so that would make you a libnigger? unless of course you're planning on getting married to another dude.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:09 No.3061069
    >>3061045
    SCIENTIFIC consensus, retard. I trust the EXPERTS on mental health when we're discussing mental health.

    >>3061044
    The DSM, buddy. Not in there? Not a consensus.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:09 No.3061074
    >>3061061
    >implying he isnt from the west
    >implying that he sapports fag marriage
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:10 No.3061082
    >>3061069
    they were removed because homosexuality was a symptom of larger problems. deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:10 No.3061083
    >>3061051
    Yes it is.

    You criticize people for being involved in an issue that doesn't directly affect them.

    While you are involving yourself in an issue that doesn't affect you whatsoever.

    You're a filthy, disgusting hypocrite, and a bad person, and the world would improve dramatically if you killed yourself.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:11 No.3061094
    >>3061005
    legal insanity and "disorder" are not the same.

    Gender dysphoria is literally when you're hatred/disgust of your own gender inhibits your ability to function in society. For instance, freaking out and getting violent when people call you the sex you are, instead of the gender you see yourself as (I know someone like this). Or when it causes you to desire to do physical harm to yourself (like chop off your breasts)

    it's definitely still a disorder, the DSM is considering removing it because of lobbyists (there are a LOT of lobbying going on for the DSM)
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:11 No.3061097
    >>3061052
    > It deprives NO ONE of ANYTHING.
    as a male, it deprives me of the ability to marry a male based solely on the fact that i am a male. it's a sexist law which needs to be done away with. males shouldn't be stopped from doing things women are allowed to do, that's just backwards.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:11 No.3061099
    >>3061052
    If marriage was already this specific type of man/woman union, then why do all of these states need to push for amendments to their constitutions specifically defining it as such?

    Oh wait, it's because that definition did not exist, and now that you want to exclude them, you have to specifically tailor the law to target them.

    My argument stands. You are specifically targeting the law to exclude a specific group of people based on their sexuality. That is not equal protection under the law.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:11 No.3061109
    >>3061044
    sauce: popular opinion, mainstream media, what more proof do you need that they are disregarded?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:12 No.3061112
    >>3061083
    >fags spread AIDS
    >AIDS is bad
    all fags need to an hero.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:12 No.3061123
    >>3061097
    that is 100% of the population prevented from doing such. therefore, there is no discrimination. deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:13 No.3061133
    >>3061069
    >implying there's any actual science and not just lobbying behind those decisions
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:13 No.3061138
    >>3061109
    perhaps a website link?

    by the way, i can use your argument style too!

    i am the crown prince of england and my bitch is prego and i do what i want nigger

    now do you understand what sause means?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:13 No.3061139
    >>3061112
    >Christian Missionaries tell Africans not to use condoms
    >AIDS becomes and epidemic in Africa

    All Christians should an hero
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:14 No.3061143
    >>3061123
    so if all males were prohibited from voting it wouldnt be sexist because it applies to all of them? dumb much?
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)01:14 No.3061145
    >>3061061
    Me saying no to fags politicising their agenda over the agenda of everyone else is being fair to the majority of people who are not buttfucking loons.
    Such as myself. so I have my own best interests in heart as opposed to the irrational liberals in here who are not gay that fanatically defend homosexuals( i dont believe you btw I know you are fags)
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:14 No.3061148
    >>3061139
    agreed. (paganfag here). niggers too.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:15 No.3061155
    >>3061094
    Incorrect and misinformation.
    http://www.dsm5.org/ProposedRevision/Pages/proposedrevision.aspx?rid=482#

    >Furthermore, as the definition of “mental disorder” in the Introduction of DSM-IV-TR (American Psychiatric Association, 2000, p. xxxi), in addition to “present distress…or disability,” includes “a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain, disability, or an important loss of freedom,” we added a correspondingly modified B criterion. As this is in line with the empirical evidence, this change permitted us to adopt the “gender dysphoria” term without presupposing the existence of acute or inherent distress at the time of diagnosis.
    What you should take away from this:

    They are distancing themselves from the term "gender identity disorder" because they don't want to define it by mental duress or stress, as you seem to assert. You can have gender dysphoria and be perfectly functional.

    and

    It only fits under the definition of "mental disorder" by the addendum
    >a significantly increased risk of suffering death, pain
    Which is true, but is more easily attributed to the symptoms caused by the social stigma surrounding gender dysphoria (anxiety, depression, self-harm) than by the condition itself.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:15 No.3061161
    Obama confirmed for Pokemon.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:15 No.3061163
    ITT: Fags fight for their right to party
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:16 No.3061167
    >>3061139
    >unaware of Uganda
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:16 No.3061170
    >>3061097
    >deprives me of the ability
    NOPE!

    What is the confusion here. Do you think any law that allows you to do something to a specific person should allow you to do that same thing to anyone?

    You can be in the hospital room of a family member, but why not a total stranger?

    Our laws frequently consist of rules and contracts that only apply to very specific situations. Marriage is one of them. I'm sorry this makes you butthurt, but the only appropriate way around this is to pass laws allowing for gay marriage, not to insist that the current laws should already apply in the new, different way you want them to.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:17 No.3061177
    >>3061112
    >AIDS is AIDS
    ...wait.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:17 No.3061183
    >>3061099
    they never needed to put a legal definition in because until about 15 years ago, no one started pretending like marriage could apply to anything other than a man and woman.

    And some states DID define it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:17 No.3061185
    >>3061170

    not sure if you didnt know this was there, but i think that butt hurt could be used in its interwebz meaning AND its literal meaning...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:17 No.3061186
    >>3061170
    >Do you think any law that allows you to do something to a specific person should allow you to do that same thing to anyone?
    of course not, but i dont think i should be denied the same treatment based solely off of my gender.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)01:18 No.3061193
    >>3061163
    >Fags fight for their right to force their sexuality on the general populace and gain positions in governance.

    The gay agenda isn't real they said...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:18 No.3061194
    >>3061170
    This is a ridiculous and childish argument.

    Is marriage about biology or is about love?

    Biology?
    Love?

    Choose one.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:19 No.3061207
    >>3061183
    >until about 15 years ago, no one started pretending like marriage could apply to anything other than a man and woman.
    really? you never learned about that whole polygamy thing back in the day? have you read a book?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:19 No.3061208
    >>3061186
    you recieve the same treatment. 100% of the population has the right to marry the opposite gender.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:19 No.3061209
    >>3061139
    yeah nice job parroting stupidities, now for some actual facts: the only African country that beat AIDS is Uganda and that was precisely because the Christian president ditched condoms, which are acknowledgedly ineffective against AIDS because their pores are much larger than the virus and because they stimulate active sexual behaviour
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:19 No.3061211
    >>3061139
    actually, tribal circumcisions, piercings, and other optional surgical procedures and poor medical quality are the main source of the spread of AIDS in Africa.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:20 No.3061220
    >>3061207
    >polygamy
    >man and women
    same thing. also, how many polygamous marriages are recognized today?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:20 No.3061221
    >>3061194
    how about both?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:20 No.3061228
    >>3061193
    >Fags fight for their right to force their sexuality on the general populace
    can you show me one introduced bill demanding that all people engage in homosexual intercourse?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:21 No.3061230
    >>3061208
    Is marriage about biology or love?

    Answer the question
    >> Bglr !!OgKBSutYDpJ 05/10/12(Thu)01:21 No.3061237
    >>3061161
    see
    >>3061215
    Switch "Obama" with "Ron Paul".
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:21 No.3061248
    >>3061220
    a man and woman =/= a man and women
    also no there arent any recognized today. that was the entire point. there was need to define this long before 15 years ago. thanks for disproving your point though.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:22 No.3061250
    >>3061230
    procreation.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:22 No.3061252
    >>3061228
    http://wdtprs.com/blog/2012/02/washington-state-unnatural-marriage-bill-will-force-churches-to-accom
    modate-ceremonies-or-face-penalties/
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:23 No.3061270
    >>3061228
    That's actually the thing I don't get. Why do people even care if they get married? Do you think they are going to make you marry someone of the same sex? Or do you just find it icky. Apologies for the juvenile word, but I don't know how else to describe it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:23 No.3061271
    >>3061248
    man and woman = man and women
    le point is dick n pussy.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:23 No.3061278
    >>3061208
    but the laws arent actually worded that way. they state that it must be between a man and a woman. meaning im denied the right to marry a man because im not a woman. that's what we call sexist.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:24 No.3061283
    >>3061155
    You didn't correct anything in my post. I was discussing what dysphoria is currently considered.
    The fact is that many people getting "diagnosed" with the dysphoria do not actually have dysphoria. They simply feel their body does not match their personality. This is not a dysphoria.
    What you may be inadvertantly getting at is that they may be dropping GID simply because they want people who feel they are "in the wrong body" to be able to be diagnosed and go through hormone therapy and SRS (a horrible process, but the only stop-gap measure they have) when they haven't shown significant enough dysfunction.

    Of course, that makes the pharmaceutical companies that make the hormone treatments richer...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:24 No.3061291
    >>3061270
    see
    >>3061252

    we care because it shits on the institution of marriage. and because fags are yesterdays pedos.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:25 No.3061309
    >>3061278
    irrelevant. you have the right to marry a woman. therefore, you have the same rights as the heterosexual.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:25 No.3061312
    >>3061252
    please show me where that forces straights to engage in homosexual intercourse.

    lrn2read
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:25 No.3061318
    >>3061270
    because the real intent is just to destabilize society as a whole in order to bring upon a communist revolution
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:26 No.3061323
    >>3061312
    move the goalposts? move the goalposts.

    its fags forcing their fetish on others.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:27 No.3061346
    >>3061207
    having multiple wifes or multiple husbands is still having various MARRIAGES between a man and a woman.

    Also, polygamy IS illegal.

    For your argument to work it would need to be legal to have 3 people marry each other, as in a civil union between 3 people, where each has 1/3 of the responsibility and all have equal control over their combined property.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:27 No.3061349
    >>3061309
    my problem isnt that i dont have the same rights as a heterosexual it's that i dont have the same rights as a woman. laws should not be made that treat genders differently.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)01:27 No.3061353
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    i just masturbated to some normal porn you mad gayniggers?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:28 No.3061357
    >>3061291
    Yeah, it totally shits on the institution of marriage.

    Britney Spears getting a quickie marriage to someone she barely even knows and then divorcing the same week is perfectly fine. But a homosexual couple who have been together 40 years getting married would shit on things.


    YOU'RE FUCKING RETARDED.
    >> Rustie !D15Z66j9Wg 05/10/12(Thu)01:28 No.3061358
    Dammit. This was really stupid Obama. I mean, I agree with you, but most of the voters you need to convince don't.

    Victory is all that matters, everything else is just an after thought.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:28 No.3061360
    >>3061312
    so you're ok with forcing churches to do something they consider morally wrong? funny how quickly you forget about the same church-state separation you were so bragging about when you demanded your so beloved same-sex "marriage"

    sure is hypocrisy ITT
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:29 No.3061370
    >>3061357
    >Britney Spears getting a quickie marriage to someone she barely even knows and then divorcing the same week is perfectly fine.
    who said so?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:29 No.3061382
    >>3061323
    >move the goalposts.
    no it's not moving the goalpost that was the actual goalpost. you were just to retarded to actually be able to read a sentence.

    first statement
    >can you show me one introduced bill demanding that all people engage in homosexual intercourse?
    second statement
    >please show me where that forces straights to engage in homosexual intercourse.
    where's the movement, retard?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:30 No.3061389
    >>3061291
    Can you reword that so your point sounds a little more credible? Though I do understand the concern now, I suppose. I guess they would have to go against there own religion to instate an act like this. I would suggest an equivalent that provides the same benefits but I guess that already exists in civil unions, though I hear those are being thrown out as well.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:30 No.3061391
    Obama Campaign new slogan : all your gays are belong to us
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:31 No.3061396
    >>3061283
    You defined gender dysphoria by the dysfunctional symptoms of it, such as self-harm, belligerence, and a hatred of one's own body.

    They clearly state in the DSM V revisions that they do NOT define it as such, and do not want to exclude patients who suffer no dysfunction or duress from the condition, but still have persistent cross-gender identification.

    They are dropping the term GID because the "disorder" part is a less apt description than "dysphoria," requiring that there is dysfunction rather than just a feeling of unease.

    It's a disorder without dysfunction, although dysfunctions from other disorders (anxiety, depression, etc.) are often present, not due to the condition itself, but due to the social stigma and pressure surrounding it. This is verified by the fact that these symptoms, more often than not, fade post-transition.

    Look up the definition of dysphoria. Feeling a persistent unease from a mismatch between your gender and sex is all that's required for diagnosis. Whether or not transition is the best treatment for you is an entirely different discussion, one that should be decided on a case-by-case basis between the patient and psychiatrist.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:31 No.3061397
    >>3061353
    >Masturbates to porn
    >Obsessed with other people's sex lives
    >Is a weak little bitch

    Omega as fuck...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:31 No.3061402
    >>3061382
    from
    >force their sexuality on the general populace
    to
    >demanding that all people engage in homosexual intercourse
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:31 No.3061404
    >>3061357
    do you seriously think ANYONE who believes in the institution of marriage supports vegas marriages and those celebrity fad marriages?

    Hell, my mother didn't go to my sister's wedding simply because she had it in Vegas. My mom totally approved of the marriage, and the wedding, but wasn't going to approve of the location.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:32 No.3061414
    >>3061360
    >so you're ok with forcing churches to do something they consider morally wrong?
    please show me where i said that? oh that's right you can't.
    >funny how quickly you forget about the same church-state separation you were so bragging about when you demanded your so beloved same-sex "marriage"
    so you're in favor of separation of church and state but think fags shouldnt be allowed to marry because it's against your religion? hypocrite much?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:32 No.3061419
    >>3061353
    That guy sure is silly.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:33 No.3061421
    >>3061194

    Neither actually. It's about making beneficial alliances between different families and groups in order to maintain social order and strengthen each family involved.

    Bigger, wealthier, well-connected families increase the prosperity and chance of survival for each family member.

    Marriage loses meaning in a society where the chances of being killed by bandits, dying of the flu, or starving to dead are rather slim.

    Unless you have money that is. How do you think the rich stay in power? They hold to the old traditions of marriage. They never marry down. They take care of their own. The wealth and influence just compounds over time.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:33 No.3061422
    >>3061404

    Sounds like your mom is a boring cunt
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:33 No.3061425
    >>3061402
    my goalposts were the exact same. not my fault you can't read.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:33 No.3061426
    >>3061414
    >so you're in favor of separation of church and state but think fags shouldnt be allowed to marry because it's against your religion?
    no, because it's against natural law
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:34 No.3061435
    >>3061357
    You aren't advocating a ban on divorce, or mandatory waiting periods to get married, or anything that might mitigate that kind of behavior.

    You are obsessed with making sure that committed, monogamous, loving couples cannot receive the same rights and privileges as other couples.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:34 No.3061442
    >>3061419
    who, Schwarzenegger?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:35 No.3061452
    >>3061414
    >>3061426
    also, I'm AGAINST separation of Church and state, just for the record
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:35 No.3061455
    >>3061396
    you're still not correcting me...
    is it possible you think I'm trying to make a point other than "they are changing GID in the DSM because they want it to apply to people who are not actually dysfunctional"?

    Cause every time you post it sounds like you think you're disagreeing with me..
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:35 No.3061456
    >>3061426
    >it's against natural law
    so now you're against planes and houses? bye bye Luddite.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:36 No.3061473
    >>3061452
    oh so you want to live in a theocracy. move to iran. you might fit in better with their beliefs.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:37 No.3061482
    >>3061404
    And yet you idiots aren't trying to do anything to prevent it from happening.

    No no, you've got bigger fish to fry. Making sure couples who have been together decades can't visit each other in the emergency room or inherit each other's social security.

    You hold a double standard.

    Really not surprising coming from retards though.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:37 No.3061489
    >>3061455
    As I said, you seemed to be implying that they are only diagnosable with GID if they show harmful dysfunctional symptoms such as self-harm, belligerence, or depression, and that anyone who does not have such symptoms does not actually have gender dysphoria. If that is not what you were arguing, then I apologize, but if it was, then you are incorrect by the DSM's definitions.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:38 No.3061493
    >>3061473
    >implying I'm an American citizen/resident
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:38 No.3061497
    >>3061473
    he just said he was against the separation of church and state.

    He could simply mean it's modern day usage to mean that the government must remove religious institutions influence over people's political decisions rather than the idea that the US shouldn't found it's own church (like the original intent of the separation was)
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:38 No.3061499
    >>3061426
    >It's against natural law
    Please clarify.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:39 No.3061508
    >>3061442
    Yes.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:39 No.3061514
    >>3061497
    precisely
    but again I'm not American
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:41 No.3061527
    >>3061482
    >you idiots aren't doing anything
    What the FUCK are you talking about?

    We're raising our children to value each other, we're pushing for abstaining from sex until marriage, we're pushing for moderation in dealing with substances like alcohol, and we push to make divorce more difficult (which makes marriage more serious)

    Just because you only pay attention to the gay part doesn't mean we don't do other things.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:42 No.3061546
    >>3061527
    >pushing for abstaining from sex until marriage
    HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
    OH WOW!
    How's that workin' out for ya, buddy?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:44 No.3061564
    Why is this a sticky?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:45 No.3061574
    >>3061527
    >this guy

    You aren't pushing legislation to PROHIBIT divorce. You aren't pushing legislation to prevent quickie marriages. You're fucking lying if you say you are.

    Oh, and btw, you daughter will have 9 dicks in her by the time she's 14 if you push that abstinence crap.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:46 No.3061581
    >>3061499

    natural law is the law determined by the nature of a thing, that is, the end to which it is ordained

    for man homosexuality is against self-preservation, and before you talk about overpopulation, I don't believe overpopulation is factual

    and before you say I'm trying to butt into others' personal affairs, let me say I'm not talking about what two (or any number of people for that matter) do between four enclosed walls, I'm just saying government should work towards natural law and that is why it shouldn't recognize same-sex unions as "marriages"
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:46 No.3061584
    >>3061489
    Did I miss something? When did you post the definition in the DSMIV?
    you posted what they proposed changing the definition of it for the DSMV, but we both agree that was what they want to change the definition to.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:47 No.3061586
    >>3061574
    you obviously don't know any traditional catholic families, maybe there aren't any around you...
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:47 No.3061593
    >>3061581
    >I'm not trying to butt into peoples personal lives

    YES.
    YOU.
    ARE.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pR9gyloyOjM&feature=youtu.be
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:48 No.3061598
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    >>3061574
    >Not having sex means having sex
    The logic is not strong with this one
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:48 No.3061599
    >>3061593
    >HURR DURR IT'S RANDOM VIDEO TIME!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:50 No.3061612
    >>3061574
    >if you push that abstinence crap
    Worked for my wife, she was a virgin when she got married at the age of 24.

    Abstinence works when it's taught by the parents and not the schools. It works when someone the child trusts can sit down with them and explain how sexual relations are not just physical, but also mental, and come with a very large set of responsibility. It works when the child realizes that waiting until marriage is being responsible, and that anyone can have the willpower to resist such urges for a few years until they are married.

    There's plenty of evidence to suggest abstinence education does work, but I personally don't like the idea of school teaching sexual education of that level, so we are likely to put our child into private school. Some sexual education is great, and valuable, but schools don't need to tell someone when they should, or should not have sex.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:50 No.3061616
    >>3061586
    Girls from strict catholic families are the biggest sluts there are. You clearly think they are actually like the way they behave around their parents.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:51 No.3061628
    >>3061599
    >I won't watch the video because I think it might make me uncomfortable with my beliefs and I'm a fucking coward.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:52 No.3061639
    >>3061628
    >I post videos that have nothing to do with the discussion and get butthurt when people don't watch
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:52 No.3061640
    >>3061584
    There's a tab on there for the DSM IV. Of the numerous diagnostic criteria they list, only one fits your definition.
    >The disturbance causes clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.
    It's an outdated definition, though, as explained in the "rationale" tab of the proposed revisions, since they do not want to exclude those patients of gender dysphoria who are NOT impaired by their condition. Some people are able to cope with the dysphoria without transitioning, I know a few, but that does not mean they do not have it.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:53 No.3061656
    >>3061616
    according to 4chan the following groups of girls are "the biggest sluts there are"
    Niggers
    Jews
    Catholics
    Spics
    Arabs
    Asians (not Koreans though)
    Redheads
    Blondes
    Brunettes

    Just because you watched movies from the 80s that had the "slutty catholic girl" doesn't mean that's the reality. There were a small handful of catholic priests that molested kids, but you'd think they're all doing it by the way stereotypes get around.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:55 No.3061690
    >>3061639
    It has everything to do with the discussion, you fucking coward.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:56 No.3061701
    >>3061640
    you have to have multiple criteria, not just one, to be diagnosed.
    you are making my point for me, they want to include people who aren't actually dysfunctional.
    Stop "arguing" when every post is agreeing with me.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:56 No.3061705
    >>3061656
    >small handful
    coincidence?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:58 No.3061728
    >>3061656
    Has nothing to do with race.

    Girls from strict christian households are often the biggest sluts on any high school or college campus.

    This is pretty well known.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)01:59 No.3061741
    >>3061701
    Yes, they want to include people in the diagnosis of gender dysphoria who are not dysfunctional. We agree on that.

    That does not mean they do not have gender dysphoria though. That is where we seem to disagree. Your original post seemed to imply that if they are not dysfunctional, then they should not be diagnosed.

    Whether or not they should be TREATED is an entirely different matter, and one that should be made on a case-by-case basis with the patient.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:00 No.3061752
    >>3061581
    There are actually quite a few things we do that are legal that are against self preservation. Not that that either legitimizes or legitimatizes them. Just that many things we have already allowed are not really the greatest. Also, and this may just be me being dumb, I do not think you really have much to worry about if you think people being gay will somehow cause the population to diminish. If I recall correctly there are plenty of people of all sexualitys and different ways to procreate.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:00 No.3061758
    >>3061728
    it's not 1987 anymore, and we're not on TV
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:01 No.3061765
    >>3061690
    Coward? That's a new one. Faggot.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:02 No.3061776
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    >CP legalized in new york
    >homos now have support from president and will be able to get married

    It's fucking happening. We really are Rome 2.0
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:03 No.3061785
    >>3061564
    Posting in a /storm/ sticky.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:03 No.3061789
    >>3061752
    Woops, had some grammar errors there.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:04 No.3061801
    >>3061741
    Oh, you misunderstood entirely.

    I am saying that they do not have the disorder that is currently used, and that they are altering the disorder in order to apply it to those that are not previously covered.

    USUALLY revisions in the DSM are made to target more SPECIFIC groups, not make it more broad. The only few exceptions I can think of relate to Autism, because of how our understanding of the brain changed how we viewed Autism.

    Obviously, as there is no sort of "test" for GID, the same cannot be true for the reason of expansion of GID
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:18 No.3061959
    >dat feel when living in NC
    >dat feel when you didn't vote because you knew the outcome wasn't gonna be close
    >dat feel when you were right
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:19 No.3061962
    Isn't everyone on 4chan a fag anyway by default?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:22 No.3061993
    >>3061962
    fag doesn't mean gay
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:23 No.3062000
    saging a stupid sticky

    eat a dick mod
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:25 No.3062024
    does a sticky ever get too many responses or something? Cause we're not too far away from 2K. Is the max 9999, or can it go infinity?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:26 No.3062045
    >>3062000
    SO edgy.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:31 No.3062095
    >>3062045
    how is it "edgy", you idiot?

    jesus, /pol/ gets dumber by the minute
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:40 No.3062162
    >>3061656

    Small handful of catholic priests that diddled kids, but a legion of godfags that ran cover for them. They're all guilty of kidfucking, it's just a question of whether they were actually doing the fucking, or enabling and supporting the fucking.

    Catholicism: Every sperm is sacred, because we need more kids to fondle.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:42 No.3062186
    Why would i want that? I've seen what it did to my parents. We aren't the same as straight people and there is nothing we can do about it but deal with it. I just want to live my life and for others to mind their own business.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:47 No.3062244
    >>3062162
    There weren't very many people involved in that situation.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:51 No.3062290
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    Is Romney seriously considering Rick Snyder for a running mate?

    This has to be a joke. This has got to be a joke, told by someone that has no understanding of the concept of "humor."
    >> truteal 05/10/12(Thu)02:53 No.3062307
    It doesn't really matter because Obama was never going to get the vote of people who care about traditional marriage
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:53 No.3062309
    >>3062290

    Michiganfag here, Rick Snyder is the biggest piece of shit governor we've ever had.

    If Romney picks Rick and bites the dust, the US is FUCKED.
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)02:55 No.3062326
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)02:58 No.3062367
    >>3061776
    >CP legalized in new york
    You're an illiterate fucktard who can't stop sucking cock from the media. Protip: half the things the media tries to scare you with aren't actually scary, and when you regurgitate them like they're destroying America you show yourself for the frighteningly stupid mindless Americunt you are.

    The case you're referring to was essentially as follows: "The presence of child pornography in the webcache is not sufficient, by itself, to demonstrate the willful and knowing possession of child pornography." The comparable physical medium example is if someone shoves child pornography in your mailbox without your knowing; do you become guilty of possession of child pornography? Obviously fucking not, that'd be retarded. The actual web examples are shit like troll posters on /b/ who post CP; if you happen to browse /b/ at that time, it'll end up in your webcache. Is that illegal possession? Fuck no.

    The ruling won't protect you if they find "show me naked little kids" in your google search history, because that is sufficient to show willful acquisition and possession.

    Basically, it was actually a very intelligent ruling which showed a great deal of understanding of how the internet works as a communication medium. In that regard, I found it surprising. Especially after the SOPA/PIPA shit, where our politicians made it obvious they knew jackshit about how the internet works.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:00 No.3062390
    >mad christfags everywhere

    Nobody cares what they do on the bedroom, but they should fuck off with those gay pride parades if they want to be taken seriously. You dont see hetero couples needing to go on parade to reaffirm their position.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:01 No.3062406
    >>3062309
    Yeah,
    >>3062290 here.

    In Michigan as well. I was simply expressing my inability to understand how anyone could look at Snyder, and what he has done here (even though he couldn't fix a whole lot even if he wasn't a fuck up given just how bad it is here), and think "Yeah... This is what this country needs."
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:10 No.3062509
    >>3062290

    I had not heard that. Please let it not be true. Snyder is worst thing to happen to this state and would be the worst thing to happen to this country.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:34 No.3062791
    Don't worry, Americans, Eastern Europe will preserve Caucasian race. I recommend you to play some video games in a meanwhile, since agony of your country will take time.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:35 No.3062803
    Gay.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:44 No.3062895
    >>3061776

    >>CP legalized in new york

    fullretard.jpg

    The case I presume you're referring to simply closed potential loopholes that could be exploited by prosecutors, by reinforcing that for someone to get in trouble for possessing CP it must be proven that they clearly had the INTENT to possess it. The court case simply clarifies this.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:49 No.3062950
    Politics as usual-"HAY WAT ABOUT TEH GAY"

    Because nobody gives a shit what two, three four or even five people do behind closed doors as long as they're all consenting adults and no one dies but lets get the hoi polloi riled up about gays, gay marriage and let's throw in some child porn because that makes people crazy but under no circumstance should we even skirt the issue of the criminality on Wall Street, a war in Afghanistan that's gone on longer than WWII and Korea combined and all the other crap.

    If you are gay and want to emulate your straight friends by getting married (anyone, gay or straight, who believes in the "sanctity" of marriage should be locked away until they come to their senses) there are plenty of states that let you do this so its a non-issue.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:53 No.3062997
    Why is this shit stickied?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)03:55 No.3063018
    >>3062997
    because the mod is a cock loving faggot
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)04:09 No.3063149
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    dun had this picture for 4yrs
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)05:26 No.3063837
    Just to check, it's only religious people who think this is a bad idea right? I mean, at least the libertarians here agree that this is just correcting an outdated inefficiency, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)05:29 No.3063861
    >>3062895
    But it begs the question of why that person was accessing CP in the first place.
    >MUH ARTISTIC VISION
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)05:35 No.3063921
    >>3063861
    according to other files found on the hard drive it appears he was working on some sort of unauthorized research project.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)06:22 No.3064317
    Remember goyim.

    Only white males are gay.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)06:28 No.3064379
    >>3062509


    Michfag here (Fenton).

    Snyder would be an awesome choice,
    It would tank the Romney campaign and get us all kinds of exposure.
    Look at what happened to Sarah Palin.
    Put the veep under a microscope and all the awful shit comes to light.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)06:29 No.3064394
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    >>3064379
    Problem?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)07:02 No.3064696
    1786
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)07:02 No.3064699
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    I remember when they legalized gay marriage up here in Canada

    Oh wait I don't. Might be because not a damn thing changed as a result of it being legalized. The sun rose, the birds sang and the earth kept spinning.

    >Amerifats dickslapping over trivial shit as usual.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)07:19 No.3064805
    >>3063861
    The answer is "none of your fucking business, faggot". The court effectively said it's for the prosecution to prove that he was a pedo.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)07:25 No.3064842
    I really can't understand how in 2012 that this is even a fucking issue let alone something so divisive that it could make someone ruler of a nation of over 300000000 people.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)07:32 No.3064893
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    >implying this isn't a ploy to show the swing voters how many nut jobs are in the Repub party to scare them away.

    should have just left it alone to let the repub party tear itself apart with the romney/paul fighting.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)07:44 No.3064982
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    and yet he has the balls to accuse Romney of being a flip flopper?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)07:55 No.3065066
    >>3064982
    when democrats do it, its called evolving.

    also how is this sticky worthy?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)08:14 No.3065212
    you know shits bad when politicians actually have to declare support for this kinda stuff, instead of it just being common sense
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)08:26 No.3065310
    >>3065212
    >modern idea of marriage is that between a man and a women.
    >hurr i want to marry another man

    common sense for liberals
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)08:36 No.3065371
    >>3065310
    marriage is an abomination anyway. I guess the government is too lazy to change their marriage laws to decide which man get's to be the leach when they divorce.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)08:45 No.3065434
    >marriage a social construct
    >society votes against gay marriage
    >LET'S FORCE IT ON EVERYONE
    >> sage 05/10/12(Thu)09:04 No.3065570
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    >implying tyranny by the majority is a good thing

    Jim Crowe says hi motherfucker
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)09:10 No.3065605
    >>3065570
    >implying a minority should dominate a majority
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:13 No.3065627
    >>3065066
    Because the /pol/ mod is a faggot or a liberal
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:16 No.3065650
    >>3065066
    It's sticky worthy because there'd be a biblical amount of threads about it otherwise

    It's not a statement about the significance of the subject, it's an effort to preserve the board
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:17 No.3065660
    >>3065650
    only there were exactly zero threads when this got stickied
    >> WhitepeopleareGods 05/10/12(Thu)09:19 No.3065668
    >>3065650
    lol what i guarantee you there would be zero threads about this unless /pol/ was being raided by faggots.
    This is a non-issue.
    Maybe to Libniggers when Obama says something its like the Messiah saying it but to everyone else this means nothing.
    Did you know this was broadcast worldwide by the sniveling leftist media as big news.
    Retarded.
    You libtards act like jesus just spoke.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:19 No.3065677
    >>3065660
    first thread he saw got stickied. that's why.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:19 No.3065678
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:34 No.3065786
    Yesterday Obama makes his faggotry announcement

    Today he goes to George Clooney's house to raise money amongst the faggots in Hollywood

    does this shock any one?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:40 No.3065825
    >>3065786
    No, he did it the day after NC so he wouldn;t catch the blame for influencing the vote and/or risk being associated with a political loss. He did this to get money from faggot donors.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:42 No.3065843
    >>3065786
    a democrat fundraising in hollywood? shocking.

    not sure what yesterday's announcement would have to do with that though
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:44 No.3065857
    >>3065843
    the day before he goes to liberal faggywood to raise money he makes his faggot endorsement
    and it wasn't planned?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)09:56 No.3065954
    >>3065857
    EVERY word he says is scripted. After being carefully crafted by his team. They think playing the gay card will get him more votes than not, that is the entire reason he said anything about it. period. Also does anyone know Russia has a massive number of troops in Syria (next to Israel) getting ready for World War 3? Oh it didn't say anything on American Idol? oh well never mind, it must not be important.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:18 No.3066128
    If I am not mistaken it is in the Constitution about how people have inalienable human rights. Since it hasn't been proven that they're "born gay," technically they don't deserve those rights. The day they prove that they are born gay, is the day it will be legal in every state. Period. End of story.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:22 No.3066162
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9KLMYaF_Xa8
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:28 No.3066208
    >>3066128
    ah but you see if they are 'born gay" there is a genetic or physical cause and then it is a birth defect and can be treated and cured
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:34 No.3066275
    >>3050928

    lol? are you joking, blacks will vote for obama because he's black, it really doesn't matter what he does (unless it's something that specifically helps white people)
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:36 No.3066302
    >>3066275
    The problem isn't blacks voting for Obama the problem is that without support from black churches he won';t get his demographic mobilized. He can either win 95% of 3 million votes or 90% of 1 million.
    I think this shows Obama is out of touch
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:37 No.3066319
    >>3066128
    You have no concept of how human psychology works. It doesn't exist in a vaccum, genetics are not the end-all/be-all of human existence. The best estimates we have for causes of homosexuality and gender dysphoria are a mix of predisposition from birth and environmental factors. What are the birth factors that influence it? We don't know, there's too fucking many. What are the environmental factors? We don't know, there's too fucking many. There's no simple gay gene, or single event in a person's life that will uniformly turn everyone gay in the same circumstance.

    What we do know, however, is that it's certainly not a conscious decision. How they got that way, we'll never know with certainty, but the fact of the matter is, they are that way right now, any attempts to reverse it have skeptical results at best, and there's no evidence for it being a mental dysfunction.

    As such, even if a treatment WAS available, they'd be well within their rights to refuse treatment and expect equal rights, and to not have the law specifically tailored against them.

    And don't pretend it's not. That's bullshit; you and I both know it. States are amending their constitutions to specifically define marriage as between a man and a woman, for no reason other than to specifically exclude gays from exercising that right. If you pretend otherwise please get your head out of your ass.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:42 No.3066372
    >>3066319
    marrying a person of the same sex is not a right for anyone
    you faggots and faggots apologists want to creat an extra right for a vocal 6% of the population that participates in deviant behavior

    Kleptomaniacs can not "help" themselves we don't know what causes it, so by your insipid logic we should make it legal for them to steal because they can not control themselves and because
    libtards and Kleptos will march in the street chanting

    WE STEAL YOU SHIT
    GET USED TO IT

    fuck off and die
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:42 No.3066376
    >>3066319
    Gays don't deserve it, they have no right to be married
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:46 No.3066430
    >>3066372
    >>3066376
    First, allow me to direct you to Loving v. Virginia AGAIN, where the SCOTUS has already ruled that marriage is a right.

    Secondly, you are arguing against the American Psychiatric Association and the DSM they wrote when you compare homosexuality to a mental dysfunction. The experts on mental health disagree with your assessment, and can find no evidence for homosexuality as a mental disorder. Kleptomania, however, they can, and have diagnostic criteria for in the DSM.

    And lastly, that's a retarded analogy in the first place even if it was true, because unlike kleptomania, two gays getting married has no victim.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:48 No.3066453
    I agree, the right for man to marry a woman is a right. That is how marriage is legally defined and thus any man is free to marry any woman.
    That's what it actually says, not whatever bullshit libs and queers think it does
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:50 No.3066477
    pretty obvious the guy samefagging that gays shouldn't get married is trolling
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:50 No.3066487
    >>3066453
    Except that stipulation in the definition wasn't there before, it's only being put in there now by states such as North Carolina.

    And that's tailoring the law to specifically exclude a target group of individuals from exercising a right. That's bullshit, and not equal protection under the law.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:51 No.3066506
    >>3066477
    Pretty obvious to see that faggots can;t accept people hate them, even though 40 states have banned them from being married.
    Why don;t they all just move to one place and butt fuck each otehr non stop untiol AIDS kills them all?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:53 No.3066521
    >>3066487
    No, marriage has always been between a man and a woman. Thats the definition of that word. No matter what you say I will never regard gay couples as normal or in any way equal to normal people.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:53 No.3066525
    >>3066506
    Civil rights are not supposed to be decided democratically. This shouldn't be up for a vote in the first place.
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:54 No.3066540
    >>3066521
    Whose definition? Where? Does it have any legal significance? If it does, why do all of these states suddenly need to amend their constitutions to specifically exclude gays from it, shouldn't it have already said as much?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:55 No.3066544
    >>3066487
    >Except that stipulation in the definition wasn't there before,

    are you retarded? only in the last 20 years of recorded history has the definition of marriage (man and woman) been questioned
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:57 No.3066566
    >>3066544
    Yeah, we never had arranged marriages or polygamy/harems before! Marriage has always been 1 man and 1 woman who both willingly entered it, right?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:57 No.3066569
    >>3066544
    Maybe because up until that point, you were busy pushing homosexuality as a mental disorder without scientific basis, and the first fight that had to be made was for gays to be able to come out publicly without fearing for their safety. Now that that's (mostly) accomplished, the next step is to stamp out these unconstitutional transgressions on civil rights, and stop treating them like second-class citizens.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:57 No.3066571
    >>3066525
    >civil rights
    >implying faggots are a class of citizen NOT a deviant behavior
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)10:59 No.3066599
    >>3066521
    And the meaning of words never changes which is why I have to say that your thinking is really queer even though you seem like a totally gay person.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:05 No.3066672
    >>3066566
    Arranged marriages were between a man and a woman. In the case of harems the ruler never married them, that's where we get the term concubine from.
    Try as hard as you life but the fact remains that men and women are made for each other and homosexuality is a filthy perversion of the natural way.
    >>3066569
    The voters disagree. I would like to point out the fact that Mexicans and conservatives are the ones having kids and they raise their chi;ldren to recognize the dangers of homosexuality. I can't wait until demographic changes roll back all this gay rights shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:06 No.3066695
    >>3066672
    >I can't wait until demographic changes roll back all this gay rights shit.
    Neither can I, when the boomers die off in 20 years.

    Also cool naturalistic fallacy, bro. We've addressed it multiple times in the thread already. Try to keep up.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:09 No.3066732
    >>3066695
    >>3066695
    ou mean the liberal boomer who spearheaded the gay rights movement? I agree, I cannot wait until they are dead.After they are gone there will be less liberals sheltering the 3% of the population that is gay.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:09 No.3066741
    >>3066569
    what scientific studies were done or reports written to get faggotry removed from the list of mental illnesses?
    oh that is right there were none it was due to political pressure on the APA

    so much for your science faggot
    >> Zed !ZF41dz6F/Y 05/10/12(Thu)11:12 No.3066777
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:12 No.3066779
    >the first fight that had to be made was for gays to be able to come out publicly without fearing for their safety.

    89% of homicides of gays are by other gays
    98% of violent crimes committed against gays are committed by gays

    gays are the largest threat to gays' safety
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:13 No.3066797
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:14 No.3066810
    >>3066741
    Cool reading comprehension, bro. I've already covered this history lesson a few times in this thread, but I suppose once more won't hurt. Here's the long and short of it:

    >Homosexuality is put in DSM almost de facto
    >It has no scientific studies or research backing it as a "mental disorder"
    >It's in there without basis
    >Political pressure comes crashing down
    >APA has two options: remove it or justify its classification with science
    >They cannot do the latter
    >It's removed

    So it was more a LACK of scientific studies that caused its removal. If you're so convinced it's a disorder, back it with science.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:17 No.3066853
    >>3066810
    only that is absolutely NOT what happened
    the science was there as was the evidence and completely ignored do to public pressure

    try harder faggot
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:18 No.3066863
    >>3066810
    Faggotry is a mental disorder the same way that OCD is a mental disorder; both conditions affect the mind and cause the sufferer to behave in an irrational way.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:19 No.3066868
    >>3051147

    I don't like the government telling me that I can't do things that don't hurt other people.

    Why make a victimless crime illegal?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:19 No.3066879
    >>3066853
    [Citation Needed]
    Please present this "science" and "evidence" if it's so prevalent and irrefutable.

    >>3066863
    What are your qualifications again? Are you a licensed member of the APA? Have you published any studies?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:24 No.3066942
    >>3066879
    Wow, you're not only gay, but you have OCD as well!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:24 No.3066950
    >>3066879
    Sandor Rado (1940, 1949) rejected Freud's assumption of inherent bisexuality, arguing instead that heterosexuality is natural and that homosexuality is a "reparative" attempt to achieve sexual pleasure when normal heterosexual outlet proves too threatening. Other analysts later argued that homosexuality resulted from pathological family relationships during the oedipal period (around 4-5 years of age) and claimed that they observed these patterns in their homosexual patients (Bieber et al., 1962). Charles Socarides (1968) speculated that the etiology of homosexuality was pre-oedipal and, therefore, even more pathological than had been supposed by earlier analysts

    shall I go on?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:28 No.3067002
    >>3066950
    Oooooh, shame you didn't keep reading that site you pulled that from.
    >Although psychoanalytic theories of homosexuality once had considerable influence in psychiatry and in the larger culture, they were not subjected to rigorous empirical testing. Instead, they were based on analysts' clinical observations of patients already known by them to be homosexual.

    >This procedure compromises the validity of the psychoanalytic conclusions in at least two important ways. First, the analyst's theoretical orientations, expectations, and personal attitudes are likely to bias her or his observations. To avoid such bias, scientists take great pains in their studies to ensure that the researchers who actually collect the data do not have expectations about how a particular research participant will respond. An example is the "double blind" procedure used in many experiments. Such procedures have not been used in clinical psychoanalytic studies of homosexuality.

    >A second problem with psychoanalytic studies is that they have only examined homosexuals who were already under psychiatric care – in other words, homosexuals who were seeking treatment or therapy. Patients, however, cannot be assumed to be representative of the general population. Just as it would be inappropriate to draw conclusions about all heterosexuals based only on data from heterosexual psychiatric patients, we cannot generalize from observations of homosexual patients to the entire population of gay men and lesbians.

    tl;dr: No one takes psychoanalysis (especially from that time period) seriously, or gives it any kind of scientific weight.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:34 No.3067059
    >>3067002
    except you wanted evidence sited I can go on and on
    it wasn't until political pressure from faggot groups and the Carter administration that the APA caved
    not due to any evidence that refuted prior studies or reports but 100% due to political pressure

    face it faggot you are mentally ill
    it is why you faggots kill yourselves and eat other at a rate 100X the rate of non mentally ill people
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:34 No.3067065
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    You know why the same sex marriage in California was voted down not too long ago?

    1) Hispanics, a good majority are religious and catholic, are for traditional marriages.
    2) Blacks, for the most part, are culturally anti-homosexual. Even with their own number of gays largely in the closet and spreadin dem aids.

    YFW Obongo loses the the majority of hispanic/black votes for this one.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:38 No.3067118
    >>3067059
    You quoted the UC Davis page on homosexuality and mental health, and on that very page, in the very next paragraph, they discredit the "scientific" study you were citing. They also discredit your claim of 100% pure political pressure on that page too.

    >In a review of published studies comparing homosexual and heterosexual samples on psychological tests, Gonsiorek (1982) found that, although some differences have been observed in test results between homosexuals and heterosexuals, both groups consistently score within the normal range. Gonsiorek concluded that "Homosexuality in and of itself is unrelated to psychological disturbance or maladjustment. Homosexuals as a group are not more psychologically disturbed on account of their homosexuality" (Gonsiorek, 1982, p. 74; see also reviews by Gonsiorek, 1991; Hart, Roback, Tittler, Weitz, Walston & McKee, 1978; Riess, 1980).

    >Confronted with overwhelming empirical evidence and changing cultural views of homosexuality, psychiatrists and psychologists radically altered their views, beginning in the 1970s.

    >In 1973, the weight of empirical data, coupled with changing social norms and the development of a politically active gay community in the United States, led the Board of Directors of the American Psychiatric Association to remove homosexuality from the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM).

    Maybe you should actually read what you cite before you toss it around next time.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:40 No.3067152
    >>3067118
    aww poor butthurt faggot can't accept the fact you have a mental problem?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:43 No.3067200
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:44 No.3067216
    >>3067152
    Aww poor moron can't accept the fact that he got fucking told by his own source?

    I've got at least 36,000 licensed psychiatrists, the experts on mental health, on my side. Who do you have?
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:52 No.3067330
    Obama's recent announcement is the end of the US political system as we know it,

    the overlords are attempting to shore up their process and are facing too many challenges at every turn,

    trayvon VS zimmerman did not bring the desired effect and neither will the Obama announcement designed to pit gays vs the religious

    everyone now sees through these ploys and are annoyed by these shallow attempts to divide and confuse us from focusing on the real problem

    this announcement of weakness is the final straw, nothing but downhill for both political parties from now until the election

    the end result will be unexpected disaster, for the ruling elite who own the political system

    nobody is taking this shit anymore and this is the end of dems & reps as we know them officially

    their pandering is seen as a shallow announcement of weakness
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:55 No.3067365
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    ITT: Amerifags that are butthurt that Obama actually takes a sensible standpoint once in a while.

    What the fuck is wrong with you, /pol/.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)11:57 No.3067379
    Obama hurt his re-election chance more than helped it with this revelation. If Californians vote against same-sex marriage of all people, why would you think the rest of the country would suddenly be more tolerant today?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:00 No.3067405
    See yall niggas in 2016. Double-Term Bitch!

    hahahahaha
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:06 No.3067457
    >>3067379
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:11 No.3067502
    Idiotic Americans...

    >Elect Black President
    >Have Black President Support Something
    >Mass Population take stance in opposition
    >Control Population via closet racism

    brilliant!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:16 No.3067563
    fyi /pol/ marriage isn't about religion anymore, since the government provides tax incentives for people who marry, regulates marriage licenses and overall has a hand in making sure marriage remains a strong force in a social sense and an economic sense.

    so until ALL marriage law and enforcement is eliminated at the government level, gay marriage remains a thing we are all going to live with.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:18 No.3067582
    >>3067563

    Actually it is relevant for the purposes of determining whether a foreign couple is validly married for the purposes of property settlement, child custody and maintenance and other such things.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:26 No.3067659
    Well, there go his Muslim voters.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:27 No.3067668
    >>3067582
    >>3067563
    How about the fact Americans just do not want gays to be married? End of story, we do not consider two people of the same gender to be married.Words have meaning and that is the definition we have chosen
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:39 No.3067795
    >>3067668
    This. I think people are confused as to what marriage is because they've forgotten WHY it is. At its basis, America is still pretty religious, in spite of atheistfags. Marriage is a religious sacrament that is recognized as a civil contract by government -after-the-fact-, and is performed by religious leaders.
    (Civil unions performed by justices and sea captains, also are legally binding contracts once filed after the fact, are not performed by religious leaders.)
    Could the federal government, should it intervene in religious doctrines that affect marriage, and enforce laws that affect the religious doctrines that affect marriage, force America's religious leaders to perform the religious sacrament of marriage on anybody who wants it by virtue of equal rights?
    There go the Muslim voters? I think there go religious voters, period.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:46 No.3067882
    >>3067795
    Atheists and inter-religious couples married in front of a judge, who never set foot inside a church or hold any sort of ceremony, have the word MARRIAGE on their state-sanctioned license, not civil union.

    Words can have multiple meanings based on context. In the context of your church, marriage is a union of a man and woman.

    In the context of the state, marriage is a secular state-sanctioned legally binding contract between consenting adults, that religion, or lack thereof, has no bearing on.

    No one is forcing your church to do shit. You don't want to perform the ceremony? Good for you, there are plenty of other churches that will. What you do have to do, as an individual, is recognize the legality of the couple's state-sanctioned marriage, and the rights and privileges it entitles them to.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:51 No.3067963
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    But Cardinal Timothy Dolan, president of the US Conference of Catholic Bishops, said that Mr Obama's remarks were "deeply saddening".

    "We cannot be silent in the face of words or actions that would undermine the institution of marriage, the very cornerstone of our society," he said in a statement. "The people of this country, especially our children, deserve better."

    "They deserve our cocks."
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:57 No.3068046
    >>3067795
    Actually, this is not entirely true. The concept of 'civil' marriages, with ceremonies and the like, is generally regarded to have first been practiced in a widespread manner in Ancient Greece. As is well-known, same-sex unions were not only tolerated in Greece, but were encouraged and viewed as preferable to heterosexual relationships.

    Men were able to marry men, and women were able to marry women in Ancient Greece. A much more widespread practice, however, was for a man to marry a woman, and then have a sort of 'concubine', a male who they had an open relationship with, and that was accepted by the wife. This generally occurred the most within the military.

    Indeed, even as late as 50 A.D. marriage wasn't viewed as a religious matter, it was a private matter between individuals. People were generally able to marry whomever they wanted within Roman society, be it a heterosexual or homosexual relationship.
    So, while marriage did exist in a primarily heterosexual capacity prior to the Greeks, that form of marriage is not the same definition as marriage as the one we have today. In practice, it was generally just a male claiming a female to be his, and making her his exclusive domain.

    In conclusion, the concept of formalized, civil unions that we think of as marriage today pretty much originated with the Greeks, and thus, with pagans. So, like many things that Christians celebrate as their own, it is an invention that belongs to people that three hundred years ago they would have burned at the stake. I imagine this would make many Christians angry to know, and most of them would deny it, just like they usually deny that all of their holidays are based on pagan tradition.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:57 No.3068052
    Different anon with a question: If terminology is the issue here, why don't we just call the state's legal contract "Civil Unions" and let the churches do what they want? Or is there something special about getting a piece of paper marked "marriage"?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:58 No.3068065
    >>3068052
    Do that with straight couples, change all of their marriage licenses to civil unions, and yeah, I'd be cool with that.

    You'll never sell that idea to the public though.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)12:59 No.3068071
    i don't get why people are against gay marriage

    why care about it
    two guys/girls are getting married whoopdy doo
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:00 No.3068098
    >>3068052
    Because the term 'marriage' does not belong to Christians, as outlined in the post above yours. It was not invented by Christians, and, indeed, is practiced in several other religions. You can be married in Islam, Judaism, various neo-pagan religions, Hinduism, even Buddhism and other Eastern philosophies.

    Just because two of these groups (Christianity & Islam) take issue with homosexuality doesn't mean the rest of the groups should be forced to follow their beliefs on the issue. It goes directly against the founding principles of the United States, which establish a secularist society in which no religion is given favour over another.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:03 No.3068154
    >>3068071
    "My son, you must never be a queer, queers are the worst thing in the world. You see those queers, they're evil, they're sinful, and they'll burn in the pits of Hell for following Satan. God hates fags, son, and you must hate them as well."

    Children indoctrinated in this way of thinking. Our generation doesn't give a shit because our generations have become increasingly chilled out on the issue over time, to the point where with us, we don't care at all. We don't even view homosexuality as an issue, really. I knew several people in high school that were openly gay, and I live in Texas, and they got shit about it maybe once or twice, and people would always defend them. They were really popular as well.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:03 No.3068159
    >>3068052

    In Australia a marriage is explicitly defined in the Marriage Act. Failure to satisfy that definition can mean ineligibility in certain government assistance programs. Therefore they would be "discriminated" on the basis of not being "married" according to the Marriage Act and the denial of government assistance is an "injustice" that should be rectified.

    Of course the simple thing to do is to just not be gay but that's another issue entirely.

    Having said that. Legally speaking "Civil unions" should be allowed only for the purposes of avoiding injustices.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:07 No.3068207
    >>3068052
    Thinking about it, I've decided I agree with you. They should nullify any government recognition of 'marriages', and should base it entirely off of civil unions for all couples. Any couple can get into a union recognized by the government, homosexual or heterosexual, and it provides all of the same benefits it currently applies to married couples.

    Then, if a couple wants to have a religious or traditional ceremony with their church or mosque or what have you, they're welcome to do so, and they can become 'married' in the eyes of their God. And homosexual couples, I'm sure, can find liberal priests willing to marry them.

    Issue solved. Brilliant idea, chap.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:08 No.3068226
    It ain't natural for a man to be sticking his cock in another man's asshole and calling that love. That is lust and just plain nasty! It ain't biologically possible for a man to fuck another man or a woman to fuck another woman and create a baby. Same sex fucking leads to diseases and sore assholes. Just ain't naturally, just sick human behavior by humans afraid to fuck other humans of the opposite sex.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:09 No.3068245
    John Lauber, a soft-spoken new student one year behind Romney, was perpetually teased for his nonconformity and presumed homosexuality. Now he was walking around the all-boys school with bleached-blond hair that draped over one eye, and Romney wasn’t having it.

    “He can’t look like that. That’s wrong. Just look at him!” an incensed Romney told Matthew Friedemann, his close friend in the Stevens Hall dorm, according to Friedemann’s recollection. Mitt, the teenaged son of Michigan Gov. George Romney, kept complaining about Lauber’s look, Friedemann recalled.

    A few days later, Friedemann entered Stevens Hall off the school’s collegiate quad to find Romney marching out of his own room ahead of a prep school posse shouting about their plan to cut Lauber’s hair. Friedemann followed them to a nearby room where they came upon Lauber, tackled him and pinned him to the ground. As Lauber, his eyes filling with tears, screamed for help, Romney repeatedly clipped his hair with a pair of scissors.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:10 No.3068255
    >>3068226
    Trying too hard. 0/10
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:13 No.3068292
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    >mfw when the liberal democrat president finally catches up to the republican VP position on gay marriage - 3 years later.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:14 No.3068307
    Does anyone else find it ironic that far-right conservative Tea Party evangelical Americans are closer to the radical Islamists that they claim to hate so much than anyone else?

    I think they would find that they get along quite well, if they compared their beliefs. They believe that women don't have the right to control their own body, that homosexuals don't deserve equal rights, that atheists shouldn't be allowed to hold public office (and in many cases should be killed), that largescale censorship of the internet/TV is needed, that their religion should be taught in schools and should be the basis of government, etc.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:17 No.3068349
    >>3068307
    see
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:19 No.3068371
    >>3068292
    It's a matter of politics. A large number of Catholic/Christian voters actually supported Obama in the 2008 election. Supporting gay marriage pretty much eliminates that support base.

    In fact, if Obama hadn't of just supported gay marriage, he likely would have won more of the hardcore Christian voters than any Democrat in the past 30~40 years, because Romney is a Mormon, and the Catholic Church took the opportunity to shit all over Republican policies a while back.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:19 No.3068375
    As a non-religious conservative, I have no problem with government getting out of marriage and getting rid of those disgusting entitlements that married couples and those with kids have. It's outdated and idiotic in this day and age to try and give incentives to make kids in our overpopulated society.

    Most men would have no problem with getting rid of marriage as it's one sided once divorce comes around, and the woman gets all the favors from the court system. You know who's against getting government out of marriage and preventing gay marriage?

    Women.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:22 No.3068399
    >>3068349
    What about it? I said 'far-right conservative Tea Party evangelical Americans'. The only part of that that applies to Cheney was 'conservative'.

    Cheney has always seemed to me to be one of the classical fiscal conservatives who don't much care about social conservatism. A great man. Also a bit of a horrible, amoral monster when it came to certain things.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:22 No.3068400
    >>3068375
    What about all of the OTHER rights and benefits granted besides tax incentives?
    >Fast track for adoption
    >Visitation rights
    >Next of kin status
    >Life support decisions
    >Joint ownership of property
    >Custody rights

    There's a lot of benefits to marriage besides some tax breaks.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:27 No.3068452
    >>3068375
    Typical stupid libertarian beliefs, no understanding of how things actually work and why government recognition of unions is necessary.

    There's a reason why there are no libertarian politicians in power across the world, it's because any politician who gets into politics with libertarian beliefs quickly realizes the reality is that those beliefs cannot be enforced.

    Ron Paul and all the other 'libertarians' in congress are all just glorified modern day anti-federalists, trying to give the states more rights over the central government.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:38 No.3068586
    >>3050663
    Why should we care if Obobo wants fags to marry or not. Why is this taking precendence over more important topics. Fuck this country!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:43 No.3068640
    Funny how he only does this after North Carolina, not before.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)13:44 No.3068657
    www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIHz5tevLAw
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:06 No.3068946
    >>3068657
    >stupid redneck hillbilly president
    >jarheads going wild, savage brutal killers love him, no order whatsoever, people all over the place
    >highly intelligent northern liberal president
    >jarheads in perfect order, all standing at attention, clearly ordered to do so, they actually look like a military unit should, i.e. at a Nazi rally, instead of as if they just came out of that scene in Apocalypse now where the Playboy models come

    I hope the point of your post was showcasing how much Obama has gotten shit in order since he became president.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:11 No.3068995
    >>3068946
    I hope you're trolling.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:15 No.3069059
    >>3068995
    Sure, the marines may not like Obama as much, but I don't really view that as a bad thing. If the marines like you, chances are, you're a horrible fucking person. No idea why anyone would use that as a measure of somebody's qualities.

    I think our armed forces look much better by displaying this orderly and calm manner that they showed in Obama's video than by showcasing how idiotic and rowdy they are and that they're no better than they were back in Vietnam, as they did in Bush's video.

    So, again, still not sure what your point is. Unless you are just directly supporting Obama and I'm misunderstanding you.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:17 No.3069087
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    >>3068657
    >>3068995
    >organization of soldiers trained for killing, killing, killing
    >president ends wars
    >haha wow the marines don't like obama what a shitty president
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:18 No.3069105
    >>3069059
    please be trolling retard
    liberals can't honestly believe shit like this
    can they?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:20 No.3069141
    >>3069105
    Please express what your point is, then, Mr. Superduperhardcoremarinesaresoawesomeconservative.

    And I'm not a liberal. I just think the marines are bunch of retarded savages, because they are. That's always been what they are, ever since the need for actual marines went away.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:22 No.3069160
    >>3069059
    Wow, you're a fucking idiot. And I'm not even remotely conservative.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:22 No.3069168
    >>3069141
    >I'm not a liberal
    sure yore not mr. DNC shill
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:25 No.3069219
    >>3069141
    >I'm not a liberal
    no, you're just some oikophobic fucktard
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:27 No.3069242
    >>3069105
    >>3069160
    >>3068995
    >you're such a troll omg
    >yore and idiat

    This seems to be the typical conservative way of thinking. Just attack people without providing any actual arguments or points, because you don't have any. When someone says something that makes what you just expressed look stupid, you just go into full-on defensive HURR DURR mode.

    >>3069168
    I'm anti-immigration, I think that whites should have privileges above other races, I think that non-whites should be put into a different education system from our primary one and be given the same opportunities as white children, but have the education be focused on developing skills for blue collar jobs, while white children are given education leading to continued education in university.

    I think this puts me pretty far away from a liberal standpoint.

    I do think that gays should be able to get married though.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:28 No.3069253
    >>3069219
    >>3069242
    Keep proving how stupid you all are.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:29 No.3069268
    >>3069242
    >This seems to be the typical conservative way of thinking.
    >I'm not a liberal.

    This seems to be the typical liberal way of thinking: plain dishonesty.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:31 No.3069302
    >>3069268
    I don't really view being a liberal as a bad thing, so if you want to say I am one, okay, but that's not really an insult and you aren't really contributing to the discussion. Again, you're just avoiding the issue and 'attacking' me, trying to make yourself not look stupid because you tried to use marines not liking Obama as something wrong with him.

    I will be voting for Obama, for the record, but only because there's no better candidates. I'm not putting a Mormon in office, and the Republican party in general has gone full retard in the past four years. And obviously everyone else has no chance of being elected.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:31 No.3069306
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    i think i can read fox's mind now i new word for word what was going to put up B4 it even put up

    i use my new psychic powers for good or evil?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:33 No.3069330
    >>3069242
    >This seems to be the typical conservative way of thinking.
    >I'm not a liberal.

    Oh wow.

    Also, you're blatantly generalizing. Why the fuck should anyone argue with you? The burden of proof is yours.

    But whatever, you're either an idiot or a troll.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:33 No.3069332
    >>3069306
    Weren't they trying to become more neutral or something? What happened to that? Did their ratings sink?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:35 No.3069369
    >>3069302
    nope not a liberal or DNC shill
    nope

    fuck off
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:36 No.3069386
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:37 No.3069395
    >>3069330
    Burden of proof of what? That marines are trained for killing, and that they aren't going to like any president that stops them from killing? Isn't that common knowledge? Do I really have to google that for you?

    I just don't see how you guys could think that the marines not liking Obama could ever be a bad thing. Marines are well-known for their brutality and hard-thinking. The majority of people going into the marines are probably going to be Republicans going into it, in the first place, because no liberal is going to join the marines, and the people coming out of the marines are going to be completely set on killing whatever the president points them at, and here we have the president ending these wars.

    So, again, I just don't even see the point of the original poster. I'm pretty sure *I'm* the one being trolled, but not really, I genuinely think you all are just brainwashed retards who like to shit on Obama any chance you get for no good reason, and jump at anything you can spin to be negative about him.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:38 No.3069411
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    Does this mean Barney Frank will be inviting Hussein Obama to the wedding now?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:39 No.3069428
    >>3069332
    why should they? there's no such thing as media neutrality or impartiality, let them be conservatives ffs, every other channel is libral and you guys don't get all so butthurt
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:39 No.3069435
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:40 No.3069444
    >>3069369
    Wow, you fuck off conservative hick. You all make it sound like I'm trying to say I'm one of you retards. I'm not, I'm a Marxist. I don't support the DNC, or Obama, I just view him as superior to the completely fucking insane alternative that you all seem to like.

    I mean, realistically, how many of you would vote for Romney over Obama? If you can say, in complete seriousness, that you will vote for Mitt Romney, then you are just entirely retarded. And that's the problem with conservatives. You used to be respectable, at least, fiscal conservatives were, but now you're all just pathetic, hate-filled morons who are completely brainwashed into believing nonsensical conspiracies, religions, and into putting up political figures as psuedo-messiahs.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:40 No.3069460
    >>3069306
    oh posting the shoop from dailyKOS again?
    think of something new faggots
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:43 No.3069487
    >>3069428
    >every other channel is liberal
    In America? CNN is heavily biased towards the right at the moment. MSNBC is biased towards reality.

    I do agree that globally there is a promoted leftist agenda involving globalism and immigration issues, but in America, 'liberal' seems to be the term applied to anyone that isn't a mouthbreathing, gun-toting, homosexual-hating, bible-thumping retard.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:43 No.3069506
    >CCN right
    retard detected
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:44 No.3069512
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    >>3069444
    >You all make it sound like I'm trying to say I'm one of you retards. I'm not, I'm a Marxist.
    >I'm not, I'm a Marxist.
    >I'm a Marxist.

    Well guys, I guess that's pretty much all for today!

    So long everybody, it's been a pleasure!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:44 No.3069513
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:44 No.3069520
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    >>3069435
    Jesus Christ you're fucking ass-devastated.

    Shut the fuck up. It's possible to be upset about more than one issue at a time. I can hold opinions about gay marriage and the wars in the middle east and the economy and campaign finance reform ALL AT THE SAME TIME!

    It's AMAZING, this ability of the human mind to collate knowledge and hold multiple political opinions!

    But this IS an important issue. THE most important? No, but it's something we sure as hell should be discussing, and that's what this thread is for. You wanna discuss a different issue? Take it to a different thread, but don't discredit the importance of civil rights discussions.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:45 No.3069524
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    >>3069506
    OH THE IRONY
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:45 No.3069535
    >>3069512
    See you, brain-dead savage.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:47 No.3069566
    >fucking ass-devastated

    reddit faggot detected
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:47 No.3069570
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    >>3069487
    >MSNBC is biased towards reality.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?hd=1&v=UhugUzUuPkE
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:49 No.3069608
    >MSNBC is biased towards reality.
    Well.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:52 No.3069669
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    >>3069570

    >sees Jew World Order on next video

    jidf detected
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)14:57 No.3069753
    FUCK NIGGERS
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:22 No.3070136
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    Hurrr I "LIKE" gay marriage.

    Vote for me mindless libfags.


    Liking something doesn't get shit done.

    Obama is said the same shit in 08

    Don't be a gullible dumb shit and actually believe this douche cares about YOU
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:22 No.3070141
    dead thread is dead

    somebody unsticky this for crying out loud!
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:26 No.3070186
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    Hurrr I "LIKE" gay marriage.

    Vote for me mindless libfags.


    Liking something doesn't get shit done.
    Obama, said the same shit in 08

    Don't be a gullible dumb shit and actually believe this douche cares about YOU
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:27 No.3070200
    >>3070136
    >>3070186
    samefag
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:29 No.3070220
    >>3070186

    Obama is a leftist populist in the hands of George Soros, plain and simple.

    And Soros's got a Plan B: he's backing up Paul's campaign too.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:29 No.3070232
    >>3070141
    >>3070141
    Butthurt conservitard detected
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:30 No.3070245
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    >>3070200
    >no shit

    Hurrr I "LIKE" gay marriage.

    Vote for me mindless libfags.


    Liking something doesn't get shit done.

    Obama is said the same shit in 08

    Don't be a gullible dumb shit and actually believe this douche cares about YOU
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:32 No.3070262
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    >>3070232
    >obvious troll detected
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:34 No.3070296
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    Hurrr I "LIKE" gay marriage.

    Vote for me mindless libfags.


    Liking something doesn't get shit done.


    Obama is said the same shit in 08

    Don't be a gullible dumb shit and actually believe this douche cares about YOU.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:38 No.3070340
    Day 1:

    Christian: "Jesus loves me"

    Left-winger: "LOLNO, he is a figment of your imagination, he doesn't love anyone, and doesn't the bible say it's impossible to fully know God? You are so stupid"

    Day 2:

    Left-winger: "Obama loves me! I know it deep inside!"
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:41 No.3070381
    I see this is still big news in the mods world. Worlds shittiest sticky.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:44 No.3070408
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    >>3070262
    >>3070262
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:44 No.3070419
    >>3070381
    what about this? >>3057415
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)15:45 No.3070434
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    >>3070408
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)16:50 No.3071352
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    You think any politician cares about you or your rights? You wanna know why most politicians are millionaires? Theyre the 1% fucking you over while you bicker for scraps.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)16:53 No.3071387
    Does this really still need to be a sticky?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)16:57 No.3071460
    >>3071387

    Indeed, no-one gives a shit about a question like this, also this is not an americunt politics board, gtfo.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)17:00 No.3071512
    >>3071460
    butthurt
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)17:23 No.3071903
    >>3071512
    Buttflirt.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)17:45 No.3072210
    So when are we going to get our viable third party?

    This election or next election?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:01 No.3072468
    >>3072210
    at this point the only real hope for a viable third party is if Obama loses and the democrats split into the more moderate "Progressive" party, and the more liberal Democrats.

    It nearly happened to the republican party, but they shifted enough to the right that the tea party didn't leave. Clinton did the same thing back in the 90s. I just don't see Obama and his crew ever shifting back to traditional democratic formula.

    If they DID have a progressive party, a "left of center" party, it would probably STOMP the competition
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:04 No.3072504
    >>3069524
    isn't CNN the least watched news channel now?
    Fox (the right) and MSNBC (the left) both beat it, don't they?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:12 No.3072657
    Good.

    About time gays got the right to marry.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:22 No.3072836
    >express an opinion that about 55% of the country supports
    >OH SHIT YOU JUST LOST THE ELECTION

    Why is everything related to politics exceptionally retarded?
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:24 No.3072853
    >implying this whole thing is more than just campaigning
    >implying he even gives a shit
    >implying his personal opinion makes me give a greater fuck about gays


    i hate gays with a passion, but i wont restrict them from getting legally together, that's just tyrannical. if it doesnt affect me, why should i stop them. im tolerant of their existence and respect them despite my deep hate for their pathetic excuse of a life.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:27 No.3072920
    >>3072853
    Thank you for wonderfully exemplifying the liberal-individualistic paradigm, which is making your community become shit.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:30 No.3072970
    >>3072920
    in an ideal environment id kill them all. but in individualistic usa what can you do. my opinion is among the most unpopular after child porn.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:56 No.3073299
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    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)18:58 No.3073326
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    Lovitz is mad because he never got any good movie roles. Link related http://youtu.be/lZl132dM1kI
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:15 No.3073565
    I fail to understand why this has yet to be rectified.

    Women can marry men.
    Men can marry women.
    Women cannot marry women.
    Men cannot marry men.

    This is a clear violation of human rights and discrimination based on gender which is totally fucking illegal.

    You don't even need to bring up the grey area of sexuality to see the legal arguments against same sex marriage are ass.
    >> Anonymous 05/10/12(Thu)19:23 No.3073688
    >>3054225
    The other issues won't matter should the economy crumble. Gay marriage being legal won't make or break the country. Can you say the same about the economy even as throughout history nations have fallen to solely due to economic collapse?


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