Flip Flopper !!!!

Breaking, Mitt Romney also now endorses gay marriage.

Nah, nigga ain't gonna flip flop that extreme

>implying I'm not voting for Mitt Romney now

Now Obomney is out in full force. Either way, it looks the same politically with different skin colors and skill sets.

awwww shit nigga, this election has gotten more intresting, the right extremists will now rally around romney and the left around obama...this will truly be a fun november.

So what's the word with the Log Cabin Repubs

>right before an election
What a fucking surprise.
As a homo, I'm pretty annoyed now, this is pathetic politicizing.

Obama & the Attack of the Niggers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2fxUvbHzoo

Why is this a sticky?

Is anyone actually surprised by this?

How is this surprising? A politician says what they must to get elected. In courting christians, Obama said he was against gay marriage.

The Republican party had best steel itself, for it is slowly becoming the full-on party of hate and bigotry.

Is this a surprise? Obama will endorse anything and anybody who aren't white heterosexual middle class males to get votes.

>implying he would do anything about it if he won

But...

But...

He promised to legalize gay marriage last election cycle, too.

He's not lying this time. Right guys?

Right...?

Right....?

YES! Dat evangelical vote.

>>3050805
Why do you care?

Unless you are gay.

So is he an atheist now?

>>3050807
>Evangelicals voting for mormons

Welp, looks like I'm voting for Romney now.

>Obama endorses same-sex marriage

I'm shocked

>would have rather had the token black guy instead of equal rights liberal

pushing gay marriage is the smartest move obama has made so far. it'll further solidify the democrats/liberals/progressives as the party of the future while making future republicans look like unelectable dinosaurs.

>>3050827
Because I voted for him and expect rights for everyone

>muh dik

>>3050833

>Evangelicals voting for faggot-lovers

>>3050827

I don't care. My post is facetious. He's promised to do it before and he never did it. Why should faggots expect things to be different this time? As the faganon said, he's just politicizing equal rights.

>>3050833
Over a democrat, yes.

>>3050805

No he didn't, last time he supported civil unions at the state level. And he's not this time. He thinks it should be legal, but is a matter for the states.

At least get pissed at him for positions he actually holds.

You know why Obama sucks?

He revealed this in an interview. He should have come out in support of it in a speech or in a press conference.

Saying something is diminished by the fact that he did so in a highly controlled, highly private environment.

He is still a bitch.

>sticky

Great, he doesn't understand the separation of church and state either.

>Creationism shouldn't be imposed on public schools
>Gay marriage shouldn't be imposed on churches

Pick one, faggots.

at least this is causing a distraction from the downturn in jobs.

Cool. More distractions.

Can he flip flop on cannabis legalization next, it better fucking happen soon

>>3050851
Their heads will explode. Whoever they vote, they are losing at the eyes of God.

BUT MUH SANCTITY
MUH RELIGIOUS FREEDOM
MUH BIBLE

Gay man in supporting gay marriage shocker.

>>3050854

But Civil Unions are the only things that the government can force society to accept--forcing fag marriage on churches would be a violation of the first amendment. It's excessive government entanglement with religion, as defined by the Lemon test.

>>3050852

If Romney and the Republicans endorsed it too, it wouldn't be political.

It's not 'politicising' it when there are two legitimately different points of view. It's already political you moron.

Not surprising at all and not worthy of a sticky.

You guys do realize that same sex marriage pols roughly 50/50 right? And that the demographic that is predominantly for it is the youth demo, which are generally inconsistent about voting turn out unlike the older demo, which is more biased against, right? This isn't a guaranteed win in campaigning.

>>3050876

The government can't force churches to do anything.

He also said he supported marijuana decriminalization. Gotta love political posturing.

>>3050876
Pretty sure churches aren't the only places to get married

Would be great to see religions lose their tax free standing for refusing to marry gays though

Gay people are taxpayers too, so they deserve the same rights.

I wonder how black people feel about this.

They love Obama but hate gays because of muh sanctity of marriage and muh christian values

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rB7Xo-zJ30o

>>3050896

Who said anything about forcing churches to do anything?

LOL
wow he just just gave up a huge portion of the black vote for the faggot vote
could he be making this any easier for Romney?

>implying the Vice president didn't have a political "gaffe" on purpose right before the NC Amendment 1 vote.

>implying they didn't wait to see how it played out

>implying Obama won't carry the retards who still think hope and change is viable and ignore how he's just like Bush anyway

Good Lord, it's like none of you have ever seen politics before.

...so? It's not like he's going to sign anything. Why doesn't he do something good and take our troops out of the middle east or free Bradley Manning?

I love how everyone shits on romney for being an etch a sketch, when obama has done a 360 on every goddamn issue he's ever talked about. They are both garbage

>>3050902
>>3050902
>generally inconsistent

Makes you think about who we vote for though

Maybe not voting for the same people over and over again is sending message, all while old people vote for the same people

>>3050916
>Would be great to see religions lose their tax free standing
Of course a lib would say this
MOAR TAXES PLZ

Hey, if gay marriages are legalized but churches retain the right to not recognize or perform them, I find that a happy compromise.

Also who wants to bet he'll do as much about gay marriage as Bush did about abortion?

>>3050899

Republicans aren't going to be making this an issue. They've got enough ammunition to use against him.

>>3050909
He said he was for decriminalizing in that he didn't think you should go to jail, but is not for the legalization. He's suggested he's for fines and a rehabilitation program.

I wondering if /pol/ doesn't really follow this stuff all that closely.

>>3050954
lel dat brainwashed republitard

>Obama talks about gay marraige
>economy still in the shitter
>Obama/libs deflecting attention from shit economy to something that really isnt that important
>economy still in the shitter
>no one cares about the fags except the fags come election time
>Romney wins as economy is ass cheddar, libs still hung up on gay rights

>rfw

>>3050951
>Hey, if gay marriages are legalized but churches retain the right to not recognize or perform them, I find that a happy compromise.

Well yeah, that's the goal

>>3050962
lol you're funny

>>3050923
>>3050928
Not just the black vote, but Hispanic and probably Asian

Whites, especially youth, will eat this up

Surprisingly, there are a lot of non-whites on the down low, just anti-gay because of machismo

Why the fuck do religious people think they should be allowed to ban gay marriages?

Since when was marriage a religious thing?

>>3050967

lol dat brainwashed republitard

>>3050973
I am not aware of any gay marriage proposal that would force churches to perform them.
That would be pretty blatantly unconstitutional.

>>3050996
>republitard

go back to the dailyKOS you faggot

I'll respect him when he admits he's gay.

>>3050961
He also told the justice department not to enforce DOMA.

Drug arrests are up.

He very clearly lied about his position on cannabis.

>>3050967
Yeah, even though the economy is the number one worry of Americans, only Romney talks about it, at least the only Repub given air time

Anybody who gives a shit about gay marriage is either a faggot or a retarded fundamentalist. Nobody else should give a shit about gay marriage except actual gay people, and the mentally handicapped.

>>3050878
And the Greek two year bonds yielding 425% the stock market being down 0.5% today in a six day losing streak.

>>3050993
Not all religious people are against marriage, its just that evangelicals are a majority in this country and get the most media coverage.

>>3050993
>Since when was marriage a religious thing?
Since faggots started wanting to force churches to marry them

WOW THIS IS SO IMPORTANT

He supported it before he didn't support it before he supported it again before not supporting it before supporting it again.

Election year stance.

Why do gays demand their union be called a marriage? Thats something i dont understand doesn't a civil union get them the same rights and privileges?

>>3050928

Because as we all know, blacks are highly volatile voters that can swing towards white Republicans!

Obama lost 0.1% of ~90% of the black vote. They'll still vote for Obama en mass.

>>3050805
>>He promised to legalize gay marriage last election cycle, too.

No he didn't.

He'd always previously held the same view of every populist politician. Against gay marriage, for civil unions.

Now, I'd like to say this was smart given the election is coming up, but to be honest... this shit is fucking baffling.

He's trying to court the black and hispanic vote. Those two groups are more against gay marriage than any others in the country.

He NEED North Carolina, and North Carolina JUST passed a ban on gay marriage.

I want to say Obama was always for gay marriage, but Biden just kind of forced him to come out with it.

>>3050791
Um, Nope.

Obama could come out gay and black people would still vote for him.

>>3051037
No

I think marriages get more tax breaks or whatever

Not to mention civil unions aren't recognized in a majority of states

Good for him. I better not see any federal interference with North Carolina's Amendment 1 as it is protected under the 10th amendment to the US constitution.

>>3050962
He clearly is you fucking moron.

i don't get it, what's the incense-pun about?

>>3050973
But then, every time a church refuses to marry a gay couple they'll suffer political and social pressure. They'll be protested, scorned on gay blogs and left-leaning newspapers, and their attendance will drop.

I mean shit, they're already forcing religious people to pay for abortions.

>>3051066
you're the fucking moron here

>>3051077
>implying the left doesn't do that anyway

Not worried

>>3051041

>this shit is fucking baffling

The word you're looking for is desperate. He knows he can't run on his record so he has to try and take a stance he know the republicans won't.

>>3051063

Then why aren't they fighting for that instead of marriage? Christian fags will go balls deep to protect marriage, but if it was just another name gays probably would've gotten away with it a long time ago.

>>3050924

Well, look at the history of marriage. It's a social contract which originated in churches, and was then carried over to lawful governments during a time when the two intermixed frequently. Since they don't intermix now (or shouldn't), it's only fair to make Civil Unions the only viable alternative for faggots to unionize.

I understand the desire for equal rights, I really do, but why in the hell should everybody be allowed to marry? Marriage isn't a right. It's a privilege afforded to members of churches. If a government wants to provide equal rights, then the Federal Government needs to step in and under the Necessary and Proper Clause, say they are promoting the general Welfare of the Union by supporting Liberty for all citizens and then recognize civil unions--not marriage.

Leave marriage to the churches; civil unions to the state; civil unions for everybody.

The classical liberal approach to gay rights is more grounded in common sense and more in line with the constitution than the neo-liberal spin which wants to /force/ churches to marry people, even if it goes against their religious beliefs. Just talk to a faggot. Much like you just have to talk to Sandra Fluke and other female liberals to see that they want religious institutions being forced to violate their principles to provide her birth control.

>>3051037
Separate is never equal.

>>3050767
He's been working towards this for a year now. They stopped trying to defend the gay marriage bans because Obama didn't see how he could keep defending this baseless legislation. Over and over it was shown that because the Marriage laws were screwing Gay/Lesbian couples legally, it kept fucking up their families and they had no rights etc.

Personally it's good to see, I hope that we can finally grow up as a society. I doubt this will change much of anything overall though, except galvanize Liberals to vote for him. As if we really needed any motivation though with that nutcase Mittens.

>mfw this interrupts Queen's Speech coverage on BBC News
Is it really THAT important?

>>3050962

>Implying Paul will get the nomination

0/10

>>3050993
>Since when was marriage a religious thing?

Marriage STARTED as a "religious thing." It only mutated into a predominantly legal arrangement within the past couple hundred years.

>>3051032
Strawman, no church can be forced to perform any marriage they don't want to, gay or not.
Damn you people are fucking uninformed.

>>3050993
Secular atheist here
the ONLY reason gays want marriage rights is to have their life style be state endorsed
It is an aberrant and deviant practice and if kept to the privacy of their own homes no one would give a fuck about it Americans are pretty tolerant like that
but Gays don't want tolerance they want to force people to accept their lifestyles and the government to endorse them
Marriage has been reward by societies because the nuclear family is the foundations of stable societies ( don't believe me? go to the ghetto where there is no nuclear family) a government endorsement of a deviant behavior legitimizes it

and really when all is said and done people are overwhelmingly against gay marriages, the gays and their willing partners in the DNC wish to impose the will of a tiny minority on the overwhelming majority against their will

>>3050919
This

and this >>3051103

SHUT THE FUCK UP AND EXPLAIN OP IMAGE/

my dog's life depends on it

>>3051101
Marriage is in fact a right, the supreme court said so in Loving v. Virginia.

THIS JUST IN! OBAMA ENDORSES CURES FOR CANCER!

>>3051093

this is what brainwashed republitards actually believe

>>3050919

They may be tax payers but they aren't people.

>>3050996

>man i hate repubs!
>fuckin stupid all of them! and drones!
>'lol dat brainwashed repubtard'

Meanwhile...
>believe race is a social construct
>white guilt
>product of white privilege
>its all whiteys fault
>'everyone is equal! yeah!'
>deny economy is in the shitter
>all bush's fault
>its the greedy corporations and the banks!!
>thats why i cant get a job!
>Job at wendys?? PFFFTT... im too good for that!
>believe people should pay you for what you like, as opposed to what helps people
>go unions go unions!!
>abortion is choice! it isnt murder!
>hasnt seen a bucket full of third trimester aborted fetus parts
(i have)
>Che Guevara shirt

I got all day

OBAMA WANTS TO MAKE SCHOOLS TEACH YOUR KIDS TO BE GAY!

To all of those people arguing that marriage is a religious institution:

What about the churches that are fine with gay marriage? Isn't it a violation of their religious freedom to tell them who is allowed to be married in spite of their religious views?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessing_of_same-sex_unions_in_Christian_churches

>>3051143
0/10

apply yourself son

OH BOY AND ITS ACTUALLY FUCKING WORKING ON THE FUCKING SHEEPLE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Z6B46O3bJU

OBAMA WILL USE CHEMICALS TO MAKE ALL BABIES GAY

>>3051141
>THIS JUST IN! OBAMA ENDORSES CURES FOR CANCER!

Romney and the Republicans have endorsed their support for cancer!

Also, cancer is now polling >50% in red states.

>>3051174
It's in the flouride maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaann

>>3051170

You're right, you're right they are 3/5s of a person.

>>3050919
>Gay people are taxpayers too, so they deserve the same rights.

they have the exact same rights as I do

>>3051115
So we should only view marriage as it was hundreds of years ago and not what it is right now?

Religion, taking us back to the Dark Ages, again

>>3051187
they don't have the right to marry

>>3051182

I fucking hate elections.

>>3051187
Serious?

They still can't get married

>>3051101
>marriage isn't a right
>hurr what is loving v. virginia
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loving_v._Virginia
>Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival....

It's been a recognized right since at least 1967.

>>3051041
Obama is like a 4chan liberal. He thinks that because of the people he discusses politics with are with him everyone will be with him even though it's a small minority that care.

He thinks the gay vote will outshine North Carolina as well as the black and hispanic votes.

Not only that though he is trying to deflect any discussion about the economy since he blew it.

>>3051187
And if gay marriage were made legal, you would still have the exact same rights, since you would also be allowed to marry somebody you weren't sexually attracted to.

>>3051201

Its a privileged just like driving a car. Why else do you think you need a license?

>>3051201
>they don't have the right to marry

yes they do
just not same sex
I don't have that right either

>>3051212
Where does it say you must be straight to be a Republican?

>>3051226
This:
>>3051208

>>3051226
>doesn't know about loving v. virginia
>fucking retard

>>3051237
If they were allowed to marry people of the same sex, so could you. Still equal rights.

The negro president supports men marrying men

The founding fathers are rolling in their graves

>>3051255
i'm down. who do we get to invade? hope it's one of the stans.

>>3051212

>Urban dictionary

>>3051262
He's black. They've been rolling for 4 years now.

>>3051260
>If they were allowed to marry people of the same sex, so could you. Still equal rights.
The point is that they have the same rights as straight people. They just want extra rights added on to what they already have.

>2012
>implying i support anyone that would get married

>"Obama in the past has said he is "evolving" on the matter"


I'm not flip flopping guys, I'm evolving my position.

>>3051208
>Expecting people to respect Loving v. Virginia
>On /pol/

Are you high? That was the worst court verdict in history. It completely threw out all pretense of intent in the constitution.

>>3051260
you have not refuted the statement Anon made when he said gays have the same rights as him, you changed the argument therefore you are both a liberal and a fagot and a retard

OBAMA ENDORSES KILLING ALL STRAIGHT PEOPLE

>>3051276
>>3051262

The founding fathers wanted to include all men, black or etc. but they knew the bigot's wouldn't agree so they kicked that can down the road.

I honestly do not care. I'm not picky, I believe everyone should be allowed to have the freedom and liberty they deserve.

>>3051281
But it wouldn't be any special rights for them, it would be an expansion of everybody's rights. And in most of the country, not having the label of 'marriage' means that they're not equal.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg

In the majority of the USA, gays do not have equal rights.

>>3051311
No-one cares what you think.

>>3051287
lol

I am evolving to hate all the stupid Obama supporters.

He is a liar and a psychopath yet the self-hating White liberals worship him because he is a symbol of their hatred and rejection of their own race.

>>3051326
I care...

;_;

>>3051326
Okay

>>3051297
At least don't try to pretend you're anything but a bigot trying to use the government to control other peoples' lives.

>>3051281
>Loving v. Virginia again
Marriage is a right, not specifically straight marriage...

Lol, who knew everyone here sucked so much Founding Shithead dick? If you accept their opinion and reasoning without question, you're everything wrong with America.

>>3051269
Not approving of gay marriage doesn't make you a bigot.

>asking what lead to a power of attorney
>implying you have to answer
>being a lawyer
>not being able to find a snakey way around it even if such a law exists

>>3051041

>Biden just kind of forced him to come out with it.
>come out with it.

Private organizations cannot give people rights. Marriage is not a right, the state has no business in the ceremony of marriage.

>>3051312
Gays are equal
what they want is government endorsement of their deviant lifestyle and special treatment

WHY DOES GOVERNMENT THINK THEY SHOULD GET INVOLVED IN A RELIGIOUS UNION?

MARRIAGE IS BETWEEN A MAN AND A WOMAN BEFORE GOD.

SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE; GET YOUR GOVERNMENT OUT OF MY RELIGION!

Lugar got defeated too

>http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/politics/lugar-parting-words/index.html?hpt=hp_t2
:\

Fuck we're going into a nutcase driven reality here. This is what we get though, our fucking generation is all like "Oh I don't care about politics, they're all stupid, it doesn't affect me~~~!" Bunch of useless pieces of shit.

>Every political ad for the next 6 months will be along pic related lines

>>3051352
In the United States, marriage is a right.

>>3051351
Was it really necessary to post this as a mod or are you just being an attention seeker?

>>3051312
wahhhhh muh equal rights

Give me 1 reason why I should support men marrying men, and no whining, calling me names and throwing out buzzwords like "equality" and "rights" are not going to convince me. I want an actual reason about how this will benefit me.

>>3051352
HOW MANY FUCKING TIMES DOES IT HAVE TO BE SAID!?
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA
LOVING V. VIRGINIA

Watching this Republican squirm as he asked about denying gay soldiers the right to marry is so great.

>>3051369
It won't benefit you but are gays that much of a problem to you?

>>3051369
>BUT WHAT ABOUT MEEEEEE
Kill yourself.

>>3051355
>god

>>3051351

Being a Mod on /pol/ must be easy as fuck. What do you even have to ban for? Outside of some stupid fuck posting CP, you ain't gotta do shit.

>>3051369
you'll get more pussy, how bout that. Satisfied??

>>3051354
They're so equal that twenty states have banned both their marriage and civil unions, and only fifteen grant them equal rights to marriage. You could at least try looking at the facts first.

>>3051360
Define "marriage"
Define "right"

I honestly don't care about any of that shit. Two men getting "married" to each other is so stupid that all the bitching and whining is not going to convince me that this will be anything good for me and anything other than destructive for the society I live in.

>>3051351
This guy

why of all things was this stickied?
Mod must be a shit eating sodomite

>2012
>people still thinking same-sex marriage is a big deal

No really, that's kind of fucking ridiculous. It's probably the most unimportant national "issue" I can think of right now.

THE WEST IS FALLING

THE WEST IS FALLING

>>3051408
Define "america"

>>3051395

They slate every East Aryan threads to page 5 and make sure Muh Dick threads stay on page 0.

That's all they seem to do.

>>3051387
Isn't that all the homos argument amounts to "wahhhhh give it to me you bigot!!!!"

>>3051354
Jeez, for being so adamantly anti-gay, you Republicans sure do love sucking Rush Limbaugh's dick.

I'm kind of impressed.
Sure, it's a political move, but it's a damn risky one. After all the states that have voted to ban same-sex marriage lately? Props to Obama.
Other than that, I don't really care.

>>3051065

Not if the Supreme Court realizes that civil rights are not to be voted upon.

>>3051369

Give me one reason why you should take the right away from them. One reason, one sound logical reason that doesn't come from "eww icky" or "muh bible". Rights are not GRANTED, you must have a very good reason to start taking them away from people or else you will find yourself on the end of that stick later on down the road.

>>3051419
North America, Central America, South America, and the Caribbean.

>>3051416
The west is already down for the count bro.

>>3051383
no gays don't bother anyone
UNTIL they try to enforce their minority deviant lifestyle on an unwilling majority via legislation

>>3051425
Read:
>>3051374

>>3051369
>throwing out buzzwords like "equality" and "rights"
They're not buzzwords, they're guaranteed by the Constitution, which conservatives claim to love.

Gay marriage should be made legal because the legal proceedings and ceremonies related to marriage would be a boost to the economy.

Also using the government to tell other people that they can't do something just because somebody else doesn't like it is wrong, and a slippery slope.

>>3051431

The US is a christian country, and people in it better live by the christian bible or get the fuck out

>>3051445

>people ban gay marriage
>no one is being forced on
>courts rule that the ban doesn't mesh with legality or the state constitution
>omg so much forcing!

>>3051408
>destructive for the society I live in.
In what way is it destructive?

As for your other questions, try reading Loving v. Virginia, or really any legal textbook.

>>3051431
I don't believe in the concept of "rights." It seems like some quasi-mystical concept where people demand things or demand my support on an issue and then rather than telling me how it will benefit me to support it just say "muh right!" and then expect me to get down and obey them because of this mystical concept called "rights"

It actually pretty ridiculous.

>>3051454
Nah I'll stay here, if it is pleasing to you of course.

>>3051408

It's not about marriage fucktard. It's about the legal ramifications of "shit hits the fan situations". If things go wrong they can't do anything legally because they aren't married.

Personally I would fine if they removed marriage from laws all together and replaced with it Civil Unions for everyone but we all fucking know our Gov't can barely pass any bill, there is no way in fuck they can pass definition changes to the ~720 laws associated with Marriage.

I bet FUCKING NIGGERS DID THIS TO SABSTOGE THE WHITE FUCKING RACE AND I BET THE FUCKING JESWW WERE BEHIND HIM WHEN HE ENDORSED THIS SHIT FUCKING JEWS AND CHINKS "OH BIRRY RACEMIX BIRRY" "GOOD GOYIM RACEMIX OY VEY" "AY NIQQA FUK MEY WIEF NIQQA" FUCKING RACEMIXERS KILLING THE WHITE RACE I BET FUCKING CULTURAL MARXISTS DID THIS SHIT TO KILL US ALL OFF FUCKING MARXISTS WHAT HAPPENED TO WHITE GOD FEARING AMERICA WHY THE FUCK DON'T SMOKIN WHITE WOMEN LIKE ME WHY I BLAME JEWS!!!!!

FUCKING MULTIKULTI

>>3051454

Then you better start repealing all our Amendments and replacing them with the Ten Commandments or stfu

>2012
>Believing that Obama suddenly "evolved" to support gay marriage.

No. He's always supported gay marriage.

He must have been shown incredibly solid proof that this is not going to hurt his reelection. If he didn't do it now, he was going to do it right after his win.

Somewhere, Karl Rove is dancing.

>>3051475
lol

I hate Loving v. Virginia is my single most reviled verdict in court history.

Appealing to me by mentioning it is not going to help your cause.

>>3051478

>I don't believe in the concept of "rights"

Yeah, I'm sure you'll be telling the next cop who arrests you that exact sentence

>>3051454
The USA is not a Christian nation. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mention God or Christianity, and the Treaty of Tripoli said quite clearly:
>As the Government of the United States of America is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion...
Written and passed into law under the eyes of the founding fathers would make that pretty authoritative.

>>3051478

Yeah, who cares about the whole concept of freedom. You know, that thing this country is based on.

We should really try to stifle forms of freedom. It's nothing but bad for a country.

This is a tactical decision because of you look at the people who demographics, the people who hate obama because he's a nigger (Southerns and Religious blocs) also hate fags. So there's no reason to even bother courting them. Blacks hate fags too, but they don't have a choice other than to vote for Obama.

This is just a clear plan to revitalize the youth vote since a majority of them believe in same sex marriage and to placate the gay bloc who have become increasingly pissed with Obama over doing nothing for them.

>>3051504
>No. He's always supported gay marriage.

Obama doesn't support anything. He is a sociopath that takes whatever position he thinks will bring him the biggest political advantage. That is a big part of the reason why he has been such a successful politician. The other part is that he is Black and get all the non-White votes + all the self-hating White votes.

>>3051523

Everyone knows this. You're not accomplishing anything by bringing this up.

>>3051505
You don't get to dismiss supreme court precedent just because you disagree with it. That's the problem with you morons, a supreme court ruling is only "good" if you agree with it - if not, it's those damned liberal activist judges and needs to be thrown out.

Fuck you, try saying something meaningful.

ITT: people surprised about Obama going after the independent vote

How are faggots being oppressed???

They can live anywhere, work anywhere and do what they like (sometimes public sex).

Ooooooooohhhh, poor faggots gotta find something to cry about because life is too comfy.

>>3051404
and?
gays want to inflict THEIR lifestyle choices on an unaccepting public, they want to redefine an institution to serve their abnormal behavior

we as a nation tolerate aberrant life styles, which is not good enough they want their perverse behavior endorsed

there is nothing that forming a corp and giving durable power of attorney to your "partner" would not grant same sex couples that "marriage" does
but no that isn't what they want, they want the government to redefine the traditionally heterosexual institution of marriage to include them which begs the question why?

because they are annoying faggots and this idiocy Obama has just done has guaranteed Republican wins for the next 50 years

>>3051536
stay mad brah

Brb, watching "God Bless America."

>>3051547
I'm not mad, gays are mad. Life is sooooooo good for them, they just have to keep crying over something.

This is reality. There IS NO gay oppression. It is a fallacy.

>>3051208

Loving v Virginia only applies to race though. Nice try.

>>3051534
Why should I give a fuck about what a bunch of Jew lawyers in robes think?

I form my own opinion not wait for Justice Steinfinkleberg to tell me what I should think.

>>3051556
that movie was horrible

Tell President Obama We Stand with Him in Support of Marriage Equality

President Obama publicly announced his support for marriage equality.

This is a historic moment in our fight for marriage equality. We’re getting closer.

We know that President Obama is going to come under attack from some members of the far right. Join Kirsten in telling President Obama that we stand with him.
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n-out-of-north-carolina

Over 15,000 people have already signed an online petition asking the Democratic National Convention Committee to "MOVE its convention to a state that upholds values of equality & liberty, and which treats ALL citizens equally."

This should change Obama's ambiguous same-sex marriage calculus considerably. As Talking Points Memo's Kyle Leighton has explained, until now there was little upside to admitting he favored gay marriage:

>>3051535
>implying independents are queer loving redditors

>sticky

>>3051556
you mean "I Hate All Goys" by a washed up jew actor???

>>3051505
Just because you don't like the ruling doesn't mean the ruling doesn't count and is not a valid argument.
How is your argument of: MAH VALUES! at all legit?

Seriously :P

>>3051565
you're horrible

Why do gays want to get married so bad?

I wish I didn't have the choice to get married! Maybe my girlfriend would leave me alone, LOL!

>>3051478
>I should only support things if they directly benefit me
Please die.

>>3051581
no go watch World's Greatest Dad instead much less pretentious

>>3051559
in the majority opinion it literally says that marriage is a right.

>>3051533
People are stupid and ignore reality, so not everyone reads between the lines.

>>3051537
How is living their lives "inflicting their lifestyle choices on the public"? You conservatives keep arguing that gay people getting married is somehow detrimentally effecting you, but haven't brought up a single way in which it actually does.

Meanwhile, gay people are denied a number of rights and are treated as lesser people. There's actual harm being done here, but you'd rather stand up for your irrelevant tradition without even explaining why we should stick to it.

>Religion grants unions between men and women
>fags think they need government to force them to allow same sex marriages


How is this even legal; have these people not heard of separation of church and state?

>>3051567
nope no DNC shills in /pol/
nothing to see here move on

There is no gay oppression. It's a fallacy.

They can live anywhere, work anywhere, do what they feel like.

Why are they so bitchy?

Gays should be able to marry and business owners can choose to discriminate against them
I believe in freedom

>>3051580
Let me put it to you simply.

I don't give a fuck what a bunch of lawyers in robes say. I hate this corrupt government and corrupt citizen. I don't give a fuck what it think or says.

>>3051532

I'm pretty sure you're describing Mitt Romney.

>>3051559
Straight from the majority opinion in Loving v. Virginia:
>Marriage is one of the "basic civil rights of man," fundamental to our very existence and survival
Marriage is a right in America, fucking deal with it.

>>3051628

Fuck off Paulfag

>>3051613
>Meanwhile, gay people are denied a number of rights and are treated as lesser people.

There IS no gay repression! It's a stupid fallacy. You want to mandate the rest of our behavior?

>>3051624
why repost the same shit?

>>3051624
>do what they feel like.
Except, you know, marry?

>>3051631
If you don't like it then you can leave

>>3051619
>churches want to sanction gay marriages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blessing_of_same-sex_unions_in_Christian_churches#Churches_favorable_to
_same-sex_marriage
>conservatives say they're not allowed to

Have these people never heard of separation of church and states? This shit shouldn't be legal.

>>3051650
Why do gays keep bringing up this marriage issue despite everyone telling them to fuck off?

Because they have nothing better to fucking do.

Good, energize the evangelical base.

>>3051648

If someone can not marry, they are being repressed in some form

>>3051631
>I don't respect legal precedent
huehuehue

>>3051624

Which is why federal contractors are allowed to discriminate against them.

>>3051660

>being in a thread about gay marriage
>crying about the topic

You're literally retarded.

>>3051654
Nah...I think I'll stay.

You can GTFO though.

>>3051639
enjoy niggers and the obese in your small business

>>3051652
Yes. Except be granted a privileged status which does not apply.

Yes. However, this is the ONLY thing being denied to them. There is no gay oppression.

>>3051613
what rights are they denied?
and let us cal it here and now
Faggotry is a choice, it is an aberrant and deviant behavior and making the choice to take another guys dick in your ass does not give you special rights to force governmental endorsement of your ass dicking on the rest of society

>>3051631
Let me lay it out for you. You're a fucking idiot with no understanding of the law or rights, so what you say on the topic doesn't matter to anybody. The Constitution guarantees equal treatment under the law, which is not currently granted to gay couples, and you're actually advocating the government get more involved in peoples' lives. Fuck you.

>>3051685

If you have a fucking right being denied, you're being OPRESSED IN SOME FUCKING WAY

So Obama BELIEVES in same sex marriage? Like he BELIEVES the drug war is an "utter failure"? And he WANTS to bring the troops home? We share a lot of the same beliefs then. We could probably be good friends.

If he wants my vote for president however, he'll have to give me something more than beliefs. Already, he's spent nearly as much as Bush did IN 8 YEARS on raiding medical marijuana dispensaries. He renewed the most controversial parts of the Patriot Act, signed the NDAA into law and has sent hundreds more soldiers overseas despite promising to bring them home. The economy is still in the shitter and we're no closer to de-corporatizing healthcare than we were 4 years ago.

If you had to judge by his voting record alone, you'd automatically assume he was a right-wing neo-conservative. Unfortunately for this country, he's an extremely convincing speaker who will likely pull another fast one on us in 2012.

And way to grasp onto a "hot-button" issue to get the vote of your party. He knows democrats overwhelmingly support gay marriage and that this is election season. As a lesbian female, I couldn't care less about gay marriage, abortion or any of the other wedge issues used to divide and conquer apathetic Americans. I care about jobs, sound money, a high standard of living, basic personal freedoms and the right to privacy.

I feel a disturbance, as if millions of jimmies cried out, and were suddenly rustled

Next few days are going to be interesting.

>>3051685
>privileged
oh boy here we go

>>3051662
That is not oppression, it is common sense. Whatever, majority of states have banned faggot marriage, it's not even like you people are relevant.

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>>3050663
Its an election ploy.
Oh well.

>>3051660
why do niggers keep bringing up this interracial marriage issue despite everyone telling them to fuck off?

Because they have nothing better to fucking do.

>>3051662
>If someone can not marry, they are being repressed in some form

logical fallacy

they have the right to marry, they want the government to redefine the definition of marriage so they may marry members of the same sex

Please read the Majority Opinion over again. It explicitly mentions racial classification as an obstacle to marriage, and really only applied to interracial couples. The Supreme Court concluded that the arguments against interracial marriage were born out of bigotry. Since nobody is arguing against homosexual marriage from their own bigotry, then we can say that since it isn't a sectarian argument and is instead a constitutional one, that Loving v. Virginia does not apply.

>>3051685
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Samesex_marriage_in_USA.svg

They're not even allowed civil unions in twenty states. Are you really suggesting that gays have equal rights in America?

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>>3051678
>You don't like how America is run
>I do
Yet you tell me to get out, how does that make any sense at all? Why would I leave?

>>3051735
>Since nobody is arguing against homosexual marriage from their own bigotry
hahahahaha

>>3051709
Indeed. There will innumerable cases of the madz. Can't wait to see what the fine folks at Fox have to say about this...

>>3051735
It explicitly states that marriage is a right. It was only brought up in the context of idiots claiming that marriage was a privilege, not a right. It is relevant because these people are patently incorrect.

Obama just sabotaged his bid for 2012 in an attempt to establish his legacy stance:

>why publicize it with an interview? why do it the day after NC?

This is his fucking Brown v. Board, he won't win 2012 but he'll be remembered for his "stance with the fag-bots"

Plain and simple math now, he just lost every bible heavy swing state : Ohio, Iowa, North Carolina, Pennsylvania... gone. Romdawg will focus heavy on economy issues the entire political season, Obama will shunt off to social issues, and everyone without jobs will shrug and go right. This is over.

Ron Paul fags GTFO

Paul doesn't want to win, his entire bid is a dynasty bid for his son, so shut the fuck up. When Rand runs he will be the most perfect GOP candidate ever conceived and will be the face of the new right wing. Get off the RP 2012 wagon and make sure Obamanator doesn't use voodoo trickery to suck your votes into his black hole of a campaign.

>ITT people who think they understand what the fuck is going on.

>>3051738

I know for 100% fact that if this marriage thing was not an issue, gays would find something else to ask for.

You know it and I know it. Since they are NOT having families and raising children they have all the time in the world to smoke meth and get outraged at everyone else.

>>3051735

>Since nobody is arguing against homosexual marriage from their own bigotry

Hahahah oh man, that's a good one. That's blatant bullshit and you know it.

>>3051738
I don't have the right to marry a man either, we have equal rights
because they WANT to marry a man does not give or take from them the number of rights they have

retarded faggot

>>3051311
> I believe everyone should be allowed to have the freedom and liberty they deserve.

Same here but beyond all this is a much larger battle of separation of church and state.
The battle beyond is whether you have the right to refuse to marry a gay couple because of your own beliefs. Or will you be sued and even charged with federal hate crimes.
The goal should be equal rights, but it seems the government always has to swing one way or another. Giving "special rights" to one group while taking away the rights of another.

>>3051773
This

First it was adoption, so they could impart their homosex on a new generation. Now it's marriage, so that we all have to care so much.

It's always something, they won't ever just be happy, normal citizens.

>>3051773
You actually think gay couples never have kids?

Confirmed for complete idiot.

WE ARE HERE AND WE ARE QUEER GET USED TO IT

Why not enforce all the marriage rules? oh right American marriage is not a christian marriage

>>3051802
The vast majority do not.

Also, I am against it. Lesbians adopt a white boy and raise him to be a little girl? Oh yeah, nothing wrong there is there?

Normal happy home?

>>3051708

You are a dyke and pothead. Your opinion is invalid.

Obama is an idiot, nothing new there. Marriage shouldn't even exist in a free society. A president can't say that though otherwise the people who believe in talking snakes and such get really mad and might go postal on you.

>>3051794

You should be happy you're seeing a certain sect of people growing and gaining the rights of every other family.

It's actually a very interesting time in history. Being able to live through it, and see a long-ignored part of the population (mostly because of the bible) gain rights and be able to live as normal citizens is a pretty big thing. I doubt you'll see anything like it, as pretty much everyone else has freedom.

>>3051787
Your "special rights" argument is nonsense.

>the government endorses my relationship, but not theirs
>it's totally equal, they just want to be treated specially

>>3051773
>Since they are NOT having families and raising children they have all the time in the world to smoke meth and get outraged at everyone else.
Maybe someone should do something about that then, like I dunno, maybe let them raise families? Then they won't get outraged! Problem Solved!

>implying this deserves a sticky

>>3051846
Excuse me?

Are you this ignorant? The bible has very little do to with it! 99% of humans cultures decided on their own that homosex was wrong.

You people cannot even deal within reality, stop talking.

Great, more support for faggot perversion.

>>3051761

It states that marriage is a right and can not be forbidden between members of opposite races. It does nothing for homosexual marriage; you can argue all you want, you can scream all you want, but the fact remains that it doesn't grant protection to homosexual, or would-be, homosexual couples.

Just because somebody isn't allowed to do something doesn't mean they don't have the 'right' to do it. You need to remember that the government cannot force private institutions, especially religious ones, to do anything which acts in difference to their political or religious beliefs.

I'm sorry the Founders had the audacity to protect free opinion and the exercise thereof.

>>3051873

>thinking cultures throughout history haven't engaged in homosex

hahahahahaaahahahahahahaaha

>>3051855
Oh yeah, lets give buttfucking perverts children to play with.

Nothing can ever go wrong with this.

>Despite this Supreme Court ruling, such laws remained on the books, although unenforceable, in several states until 2000, when Alabama became the last state to repeal its law against mixed-race marriage.[11]
>2000

WHAT THE FUCK ALABAMA? Fucking hell, that's a backwards ass state.

What an obvious ploy for the youth vote.

>>3051883
Again, not the VAST majority.

Is this your pattern?' Be wrong, laugh like a jack-ass?

>>3051890

Well, at least you're not going to the very extreme end of the spectrum or anything

>>3051790
You do realize that there are churches in support of gay marriage, right? It's just as much a violation of church and state for the government to dictate to them what marriages they can and can't sanction.

>>3050965
>lel

back to /v/

Too extreme too soon and this is going to cost him, Obama blew it.

>>3051901

You might want to realize how history and the world have always worked, and not just how it's worked in your mind before you go calling people ignorant.

>>3051877
>It states that marriage is a right and can not be forbidden between members of opposite races. It does nothing for homosexual marriage; you can argue all you want, you can scream all you want, but the fact remains that it doesn't grant protection to homosexual, or would-be, homosexual couples.
>It states that marriage is a right
>marriage is a right
If marriage is a right, why doesn't it apply to gays?

We won't have the social freedoms of the ancients for a long while

>>3051901

Do you not know anything about the Spartans? You do know their warriors basically engaged in very homosexual acts. It's ironic that the majority of the rights you get to exercise are because of them.

>>3051903
Whatever man. I just bet you would have LOVED to be raised by two dykes dressing you in skirts from a young age.

Helping you with make-up, encouraging you that women are better then men.

>>3051819

Not any worse that fundies shoving all their wacky ideas into their children's heads. For better or worse parents are free to raise their kids however they want as long as they're not abusing them or stuff like that.

>>3051877
I never said that you illiterate sack of shit.

People were saying that marriage is not a right. Loving v. Virginia says it is. Marriage is a right, that's all it was being brought up to say.

Fuck you're stupid.

>>3051921
Do you not know anything about vast majority?

>>3051936
care to point them out?

>>3051910

Not necessarily, this puts the focus back on the social issues, where Republicans and Romney are weakest.

It also serves to differentiate the candidates, as the issues Obama and Romney are quite different on are the social ones.

>>3051947
No

Common sense party wins again.

Hint: I'm not talking about the Democrats.

>>3051744

>>3051910
I think you've lost track of which positions are extreme.
nothing extreme about equal rights.

>>3051925

You're just really comfortable over there at the extreme end of hyperbole, aren't you?

>>3051819
>>The vast majority do not.
mostly due to the limitations put in place by adoption agencies and the legal issues of custody of a non-married couple vs. a legally wed-locked one.

besides, birth rates in straight households are dropping, need to keep up.

>>Also, I am against it. Lesbians adopt a white boy and raise him to be a little girl? Oh yeah, nothing wrong there is there?
one case of abusive parents represent the entire LGBT community? what about all the cases of feril children being locked up in their rooms for years, of the innumerable cases of physically and sexually abused in straight households? statistically gay couples have been found to be better parents as they actually need to put effort into getting a child, straight couples just need some cheap beer and bad condoms.

>>Normal happy home?
there is nothing keeping a gay household from a living a happy, productive existence anymore than there are ensurances that a straight household wont be an abusive shithole.

>>3051877
>Just because somebody isn't allowed to do something doesn't mean they don't have the 'right' to do it. You need to remember that the government cannot force private institutions, especially religious ones, to do anything which acts in difference to their political or religious beliefs.
Except it's the government that is refusing to grant marriage licenses to gay couples. Churches have nothing to do with marriage; sure people can have a church ceremony if they want, but nobody is considered married without the approval of the government.

Marriage is a right. The government is denying that right to individuals due to crying from religious groups. That's a violation of the separation of church and states.

This is not a negotiation. This is not a debate. Same-sex marriage will become legal. We will shove it down your throats at gunpoint if we have to. We had to with segregation, we had to with slavery-we had to actually fucking kill you en masse to get rid of slavery. We are the good guys, and we WILL win. Over your dead bodies, if necessary.

>>3051956
>derp, lets block everything and shut down the legeslature
>party of common sense
try again.

>>3051977
This is not segregation and this is not slavery you fucking retard. This is not a right by any means. It's just a fucking word.

>>3051963
Are you serious?

You think ANY children raised by homosexual partners end up heterosexual?

What a fucking joke.

>>3051919

Bad wording on my part. It ended race-based discrimination when it comes to marriage. It just says that if you are black and I am white, then we can have sexy time and put a ring on each other's fingers. It doesn't say anything about you and I, both being males, wanting to fuck each other.

If you read the majority opinion in full, you'll see that it is specifically speaking about race and marriage--not sexual orientation and marriage, or just blanket marriage.

>>3051936
>>3051947

As far as I know it's just been Christians and Muslims and probably Jews that have. That may be the majority, but not the vast majority. I wonder how other cultures of Asia see homosexuality.

Also the vast majority of people believed the world was flat and anyone that said the world was round was considered a bigot and danger to humanity, how did that work out?

>>3051977
>Gays
>Tolerant and law abiding normal members of society

>>3051988
Dems did the exact same thing with Bush.

>>3051873

Yeah, because throughout our history we've always been 100% right about everything we decided was wrong. 99% of human cultures used to think the world was flat, and that we were literally the center of the universe. That's an awful defense to use.

>>3051873
>99% of humans cultures decided on their own that homosex was wrong.
er....

>>3051948
Nothing has changed, you blind fools.

Obama is doing this to get the gay vote. Just like other Presidents past have used this to get the anti-gay vote. Its the same shit, only the numbers have changed. I hate this fucking country because this will somehow be more important than our fucking lives.

>>3051989
but it is government policy endorsing discrimination and bigotry.

no matter how many republicans hate freedom, they'll always lose to the real Americans.

>>3051761
>It explicitly states that marriage is a right

granted and marriage, by definition is between 1 man and 1 woman

your point is moot

>>3051359
He was also one of 3 republican dream act supporters. All 3 are gone.

Why is polygamy illegal then????

Gays do NOT support polygamy, right people?

>>3051977

You're not the good guys. You're counter-culture become establishment. You're the revolution in power become a greater monster than those that preceded you. You're a subculture of whiners, malcontents, and people who believe that your inconveniences are tantamount to murder-at-will and slavery.

Trouble is, you're just loud, and the weak-minded will swallow the loud tripe of relatively small numbers.

Captcha: The Plantsta

>>3052012
false.
compare number of filibusters rather than trusting fox news.

>>3052041
This over 9000

>>3052000
Japanese practiced warrior homosexuality akin to Spartans. They believed that homosexual love strengthened ties between fellow warriors.
Samurai also engaged in pederasty with their apprentices whilst teaching them.

>>3052025

>Obama is doing this to get the gay vote.

But he already had the gay vote, this doesn't change that.

GAYS DO NOT SUPPORT POLYGAMY

THEY ARE HYPOCRITICAL PERVERTS

>>3052026
>talks about killing people in the streets to get his way
>Republicans hate freedom derp
There is no discrimination here at all. Gays have ALWAYS been free to get married. And if they see marriage as inconsistent with their lifestyle, they have ALWAYS been free to get a civil union. The only discrimination is yours towards American society and culture as you try to change definitions in an effort to force your cultural marxism down everybody's throat.

>>3052040
I also support this
I want a cooking cleaning and gardening wife

>>3050896
>>3050876

Nobody's going to force your church to marry gays, retard. Never heard of city hall? You think atheists don't get married?

What's gonna change, is that when MY church DOES marry gays, it'll actually be legally recognized by the government. Whereas right now, it isn't.

>>3052040
Polygamy should be legal too. As long as everyone involved is a consenting adult, why the fuck not?

>>3052026
Faggotry is a choice and behavior
it is a deviant behavior
the vast VAST majority of people do not approve of faggotry
your behavior does not grant you extra rights and the right to change society to your nihilistic urge fulfillment

>>3052063

>Gays have ALWAYS been free to get married. And if they see marriage as inconsistent with their lifestyle, they have ALWAYS been free to get a civil union.

Are we at the "blatant lies" stage now?

>>3052070
Anyone who posts on 4chan is an absolute fool for supporting polygamy.

>>3052087

Faggotry is as much a choice as heterotry

>>3052070
Bad things happen when there are too many males without females.

>>3052087
oooh so edgy and kewl xD

Its kind of sad seeing so many insecure cavemen in this thread. Calm down; a couple of gays getting married isn't going to affect your life. You'll be ok.

>>3052088
There's no lie about it. In recent history, any gay man or woman is allowed to partake in marriage. They are also allowed to partake in a civil union if they prefer to be with somebody of the same sex instead.

Keep trying to make yourself feel better.

>>3052041
>counter-culture
or changing culture, for people not enslaved by tradition.

the telling element is that liberals have greater empirical evidence supporting all their positions.
correlation to reality is the only thing that creates objectively better policy, which republicans have long forgotten.

>One noteworthy pattern was that some majority black counties which had strongly backed Obama in 2008 just as strongly supported the proposed amendment on Tuesday.

>For example, Hertford County, with a 60 percent black population, voted for Obama with 70 percent in 2008 and on Tuesday 70 percent of its voters backed the constitutional amendment defining marriage.

>And Halifax County, with a 53 percent black population, voted for Obama with 64 percent in 2008 and backed the amendment with 68 percent of its votes.

http://nbcpolitics.msnbc.msn.com/_news/2012/05/08/11604355-north-carolina-approves-ban-on-same-sex-m
arriage-by-wide-margin

Lol why do blacks hate gays so much? Can they not see the parallels between laws prohibiting gay marriage and laws prohibiting miscegenation? You'd think people who have struggled for centuries to gain equal rights would be more sympathetic to gays and their cause.

>>3052055
yeah only that's not true

>>3051901
Ancient Greece, Rome, Japan, China, India and Africa had no stigma against homsex.
Emergence of Christianity subdued it for a while but it was still practiced widely by the ruling classes, and probably on the quiet by the working classes.
Massive re-emergence in the Jacobean and Romantic era.
Now accepted in most of the Western World. Even the middle east engages in it, look up bach bazi.

>>3052099
what are betas going to do about it? complain on /r9k/?

>>3052118
Yeah, accept it is.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan#Ancient_Japan

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/05/romneys-view-on-gay-marriage-not-evolving/

Oh my fucking sides!!!

>>3052070

You're right, it should.

>>3052114
> implying deciding to suck cocks = being born with black skin

>>3052124
that's funny considering gays LOST the majority of states :/

Even niggers know how disgusting faggots are. Why are liberals dumber than niggers when it comes to fags?

Damn.

Even in glorious socialist Europe the leaders don't recognize gay-marriage as an equal to normal marriage.

Or is this America finally getting a 'civil partnership' type deal?

>>3052118
yes it is fuck it even got an episode of Samurai Champloo

>>3052101

Who cares about gays getting married? I want the annoying ones dismembered, fucked in the stumps by syphlitic mongrel dogs, and then slowly bled to death in front of fag hags and "progressives."

>>3052114
Shit rolls downhill.
Everyone wants someone a little further downhill from them to get all the shit.

>>3052133
>retard sites wikipedia

>>3052111

So let's see this evidence, then.

>>3052146
Because they aren't very smart and ride with their emotions.

>>3052166
Look at the citations if you want, google it if you must. Why is this so hard to accept?

>>3051037
Civil unions DON'T give the same rights. It affects everything from how you file your income tax, to sponsoring your immigrant spouse, to transfering property to your widow/er when you die... .You'd have to rewrite about 4000 laws at the federal level alone.

>>3052166
Fuck off.

>>3051101
SMARTEST POST I HAVE EVER SEEN ON 4CHAN
100 Internets to you sir/maddam

>>3052121
>Ancient Greece, Rome, Japan, China, India and Africa had no stigma against homsex


only they all did, stop getting your history from your junior high social studies teacher moron

>>3052110

You're fucking with me right?

Gay marriage and civil unions are banned outright in most states. Only a handful actually allow it.

>>3052159

Cool edginess, bro. I bet you impress your friends a lot.

>>3052184
>to sponsoring your immigrant spouse

Oh wat the fuck? now we have to let faggots give citizenship to their foreign butt buddies?

No, screw off. Faggotry does not guarantee citizenship.

>>3052158
Oh right Samurai Champloo. Inuyasha also happened I saw it on tv!

>>3052166

>gets destroyed
>denies claim
>gets multiple sources to back up the decimation he just received
>denies the evidence

Holy shit conservatives

>mfw this costs Obama the election

yay. obama is finally in the 21st century.

>>3052139

Plenty of societies have had gay relations. In fact, the founding fathers, up until Lincoln and probably further, had what was called 'Gentlemen Friends' Who was basically a questionable best friend who had the same status as his wife.

But those saying that Gay Marriage is harmless are only half right. Because its not about what people do with their own privacy, when marriage is involved it is a matter of Tax Breaks and Benefits, and in fact all marriage is unconstitutional and should be gotten rid of.

>>3052184
>to transfering property to your widow/er when you die

Why can't gay people into wills?

Anonymous, when I die I can leave everything I own to some random from a phone book if I want. Stop lying.

>mfw when this fixes Mitt's potential problem with evangelicals staying home.

>>3052221
WHY IS THE MEDIA NOT SHOWING THIS?

Obama loves to take cock. (Israels cock)

This proves it.

Hm. Obama loses the Black vote for the Gay vote. Blacks believe that the Illuminati run dis shit.

Ron Paul 2012. Is...is it happening now?

>>3052205
Do you care to post anything to the contrary or are you just going to put your fingers in your ears?

>>3052246

>Implying blacks would ever vote for Ron Paul

>>3052158
>yes it is fuck it even got an episode of Samurai Champloo
>an episode of Samurai Champloo
>Samurai Champloo

ok now you're trolling
no one can be that retarded

>>3052238
Look at Romney's, its ALL banks, financial services or companies that supply banks and only banks.

>>3052261
Why, because the media said he was racist? I think blacks are actually very keen on how fake the media is. They've had to deal with it for years.

>>3052246
he voted against martin luther king day. he was the only one. he is a fucking senile old man.

It would be really hilarious if this pisses blacks off to the point they don't vote for Obama.

>>3052272
But it was historically accurate, look at the wikipedia article if you want.

>>3051790
Just like the government forces the catholic church to ordain women? GTFO with that retarded bullshit.

I wonder why now?

He already had the vote of the left, why further isolate the right?

>>3052280

They're both supported by the banks. No matter who wins or loses, the banks win either way.

>>3052272
>getting told by a cartoon
scrub detected

>>3052208
>sites wikipedia and Samurai Champlo as source
> claims crushing victory over opponent

LIBERAL LOGIC

>>3052297
independents and log cabins

>>3052238
>$690k

what is that like the cost in gas for a round trip private jet ride across the country?

>mfw liberals think he's giving billions in bailouts because he received not even $1 million

>>3052283
>Senile old man
That was quite a while ago, and besides, he was against just tossing a federal holiday on the table and he was right. They only did it to seem progressive.

romney: "okay! that's enough pampering to the far right, now to start getting a little more centrist"

obama: "what? you mean these guys? no, I think you're going to be stuck with them"

Romeny: "OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT"

>>3052311

The donated the maximum they were allowed to donate

>>3052308

I didn't see you cite any counter arguments? You demand sources from them, they give you them and then you don't provide any counter sources to them?

Hilarious Cuntservative logic.

>>3052308
>implying wikipedia isn't a legitimate source

>>3052311

That is just what is on record. You can bet you're ass he has been getting money on the side from them, and lots of it.

>>3052272
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexuality_in_Japan

Suck a dick, bitch.

>inb4 lolwikipedia
>just look at the citations, faggots

There's also records of pederasty and homosexuality in Viking beserkers, Greeks (especially the Spartans), Arabs, and the Pashtun.

Everybody likes sucking dick.

>>3052246

Lol, he won't lose the black vote because of this. White liberals and the Democratic party has supported marriage equality for a while now and blacks still overwhelmingly vote Dem (can't remember the exact statistics but I think like 95% of blacks vote Democrat, some ridiculously high amount like that). They may not agree with the party on gay marriage, but they like that free money they get more than they hate gays.

>>3052281

Because MUH WELFARE and MUH SCHOLARSHIPS

>>3052329
>Samurai Champloo
>historically accurate

seriously you have to be troll no one can be that retarded, you're sight A FUCKING CARTOON AS A HISTORICAL REFERENCE????

>>3052341
NU U WIKIPEDIA IS NOT LEGITIMATE SORES HOMOSEX WAS ALWAYS WRONG AND THOUGHT OF AS WRONG BY ALL CULTURES HURP TA DURP

>>3052355
No, we're citing wikipeida, Samurai Champloo was just a sidenote.
Oh, and the segment on this that was in Samurai Champloo was historically accurate, and to dismiss it because it is a cartoon is the definition of ad hominem.

>>3052345
He won't lose the percentage, just fewer blacks will bother to vote.

Marriage isn't popular these days, but there are still lots of people who want to get married.

Of course, this crosses into gay people as well. And that's not a problem. Anyone who wants to get married should be able to get married (with consent), regardless of sexual orientation.

It's literally a fucking slip of paper; why are people so hung up over 2 people not getting a legal piece of paper.

>>3052386
because muh bible