Americans have too much cliche about socialism. For you, it means "USSR, Staline, Hitler" etc.
But, we had a socialist president between 1981 and 1995. And France don't look like USSR.

Socialism gave us social protection, minimum salary, pensions, limit of working time, one of the best healthcare etc.
Socialism is not to etablish an horrible dictatorship, kill all rich people and destroy French and European economy.

So don't worry about us, we will do well. ;)

damn.

Hmm maybe i should post some racist pictures to get some answers.

Pay attention America, you'll see how ACTUAL socialism works.

You've shut down all the dumb americans already.

I'd imagine everyone else is happy for you.

Meh, can't be any worse than Sarkozy, fucker's the most french looking bastard imaginable, it'll be nice to be able to watch coverage of international events without having an overwhelming urge to punch something every time France comes on screen.

>>2993530
>debt crisis
>more socialism

Please, show us. I can't wait.

More proof that the Soviet Union never went away, it just took over all of Europe

so they got rid of that piece of shit Sarkozay?

good for france, that was just another chance for the tyrant in chief to drag america into another war we can't afford. thanks for "freeing" Libya for Big Oil, I can see how grateful the Libyan people were since they're breaking the gravestones of WW2 Ally soldiers and pissing on their bones

Timeline of events:

>Hollande begins massive borrow and spend agenda, symbolic high tax on rich assholes
>Rich assholes take their money to other EU countries like the UK. UK economy improves more quickly
>Erodes civil liberties and turns France into a police state like the UK
>Ed Milliband's electoral chances destroyed as people remember how shit centre-left governments are
>Conservative-UKIP coalition in 2015
>Deal with it

>>2993611
You forgot capital controls. Socialist states are notorious for not letting people leave the country with their money. All Hollande has to do is instate capital controls to prevent that.

>>2993552

Funny how Sarkozy is actually of hungarian and greek origins.

>>2993665
Probably only works against poor people. Rich people always find a way around things like that. Foreigns banks and such.

>>2993611
>Conservative-UKIP coalition in 2015
boooo
I want a libertarian coalition like:
>Conservative-Pirate Party UK
>Conservative-Liberal Party
>Conservative-Science Party
>Conservative-Libertarian UK
or (last and least)
>Conservative-Lib Dem

>>2993560
Yeah because right-wing Sarkozy and Merkel has SO DAMN SUCCESSFUL to save Europe. Greece and Spain are so well right now thanks to capitalist governments which govern Europe.

A GLORIOUS FUTURE AWAITS US!

>>2993803
theoretically all of those parties should be less statist than the conservatives, even UKIP. certainly less vested interests. but I agree. libdems again might be okay so long as they start DOING more in parliament.

>>2993912
I fear the authoritarian theme in UKIP's policies, and their advocation of the death penalty. I don't care if we stay in the EU, as long as we stay friends.

I think we should push them to make a united states of europe with germany as the capital state.

I'm a socialist and my biggest worry is that he'll fuck it up and create another generation of morons who hate socialism for no reason.

Disgusting.

>>2994011
or they'll hate it because it's a failure of a system.

>have the worst immigration in Europe
>niggers and mudslimes everywhere
>put a socialist president in office

yes this will solve everything

The last gasp of an entitlement society.

>>2994052
>identified for moron who hates socialism for no reason

>>2993167
Ditto Greece, probably also Netherlands, not sure what will happen with Spain. It won't mean anything unless they aggressively go after the banksters. But it's a step in the right direction.

hahah poor France. enjoy your socialist nanny state shithole, we've already got ours in the UK.

>>2994126
Stay forever butthurt, fascist.

>>2994097
Some people enjoy economic freedom. I don't know about you though.

>>2994011
There is no way he can deliver.
If he tries the financial markets will demand interest rates from France that can't be paid.

As a conservative non-French i hope he will push hard for a tighter regulation of the banking sector.
That would cause at least one good thing to come out of it.

>>2994097
people hate socialism for good reason. people don't like big intrusive governments who try to micromanage their lives. do you not get that? the idea of taking from the rich and giving to the poor is all rather rosy and for that it works somewhat, unless you overdo it and scare away all the rich people (which is what happens.) the more chilling thing is the authoritarianism and smashed liberties that accompany it.

find a left-wing socialist/workers party that has a commitment to individualism- oh wait you can't

>>2994156
Why would I when it all it achieves is unhappiness for the many and ridiculous excess for the few? Why would anyone support a system like that?

>>2994142
>dont like socialism?
>UR A FASCIST

Holy shit, another dipshit for the filter.

>>2994142
>fascist
>socialist

pick two idiot. calling someone who wants a smaller state a fascist, seriously. babby's first politics.

nobody cares about frogs

>>2994183
That's the fucking point of socialism, to get away from selfish individualism and try to make society better for everyone.

>>2993560
>financial bubble explodes
>less regulation

Please, show us. I can't wait.

>>2994183

The problem is you think socialism is the problem. When its the greedy rich people who would rather set their dicks on fire then pay another cent into something other then themselves.

A lot of African countrys claim to be socialist, big deal just another corrupt third world shithole

>>2994218
>stop individualism by stealing peoples money
>they become more selfish

Pick 2

Front National didn't win... ( ._.)

>>2994237

Why are you so mad that I want to continue to horde my money. MY MONEY. MINE. NOT YOURS. I earned this money, and I'll do what I want with it. The rest of you can eat a dick.

>He also campaigned on a pledge to give all foreigners the right to vote in local elections in line with laws already in place for EU citizens living in France. The Socialist has said he will balance the country’s budget by 2017.

Oh god.

http://www.france24.com/en/france/2min/20120506-france-socialist-hollande-wins-presidential-election
-sarkozy

Dammit, France. Now, France is going to be anti-American again.

>>2994237
Your ideology has been tested to destruction in one society after another for the last 100 years.

It has never made anyone richer.
It has never made society fairer.
It has never made anyone more free.

And yet you still believe that - after failing 10,000 times before - this time socialism will deliver.

I wish you weren't so delusional. I really wish you could leave your ideology behind and face reality like the rest of us.

>>2993332

French faggots live in denial and they use gay smileys everywhere.

>France is a shithole because of socialism
>USA has record unemployment and hippies in the street
Yeah I know where I'd rather live

>>2993167
I can't wait for Britain's turn.

>>2994285
French is just a codeword for ANTI-WHITE.

>>2994267
En même temps, vu à quoi elle ressemble maintenant...

Enfin, c'est toujours bon de savoir que les grands esprits de la France votent FN.

No problem. Pic related, my second favorite European socialist.

>>2994278
>comparing a totalitarian socialist state that shares no meaningful difference from a fascist state to a social democracy electing a socialist leader

Moron.

>>2994218
>we're monitoring your internet usage, it's better for everyone
>we're putting CCTV everywhere, it's better for everyone
>we're removing your right to free speech, it's better for everyone
>we're banning smoking, it's better for everyone
etc. etc.

what's selfish is trainwrecking peoples private lives because you want more for yourself.

>>2994269

Awwww you cant live off of 30 million dollars a year?!

My heart fucking bleeeeeeds for you. Get out of my country then. See how much money you make when i tax the shit out of your goods to sell them here. I can be a dick too.

The rich aren't going anywhere, and all that money wont protect them from a pitchfork to the chest when the people finally get tired of getting shit on for 11.00 an hour while their CEO has a car elevator.

>>2994000
I still want to kill you.
There will NEVER be a European United States. We are very good friend, we are united, but we will NEVER be a federation like USA, we're too much different.
Do you know what's the most spoken language in E-U ? It's English. And 18% of Europeans speak it.
Around 15% for French and German.

And Germany is NOT European capital state and never will.

So forget it.

>>2994291
David Miliband? Maybe.
Ed? LOLNOPE.

Ed is their sacrificial sheep. Ed Balls would have won more votes.

>>2994326
Those aren't really inherent to socialism. Those are authoritarian policies, not socialist policies. A socialist state is just about redistribution of wealth and social welfare.

>>2994278

> cannot into social democracy

Oh libertarians and your complete lack of ability to distinguish the nuances in left-wing political philosophies. It's cute. Everything not libertarian is STATIST SOSHIALISM COMMUNISM, right?

>>2994354
>provide services to people and get rich by voluntary contributions

>PITCHFORK TO THE CHEST

hoooooooooooooly shit youre a retard

>>2994324
>2012
>still believing in democracy

Yeah politicians are so capable of running states and they're not at all fucking everyone down the road and fucking their successors.

>>2994000
yes if UKIP dropped the authoritarianism and became a more progressive and genuinely libertarian party, they'd be on to a winner. with a name like UK Independence Party though they're going to be attracting old fogeys and nationalists and they'll be wanting to please them first.

>>2994381
vulgar libertarian

I bet you spend a great deal of time going on about how the bullshit of corporativism wouldn't occur with a real free market too.

>>2994326
>we're monitoring your internet usage, it's better for everyone
HADOPI and ACTA et al. were made to protect the entertainement industry.

>we're putting CCTV everywhere, it's better for everyone
lol Patriot Act

I'm ze elite, I'm an French intellectual philozopher.

Ze Arabs have the right to come in France, we are open...minded.

Zhey will naturally stop having children once they become the majority and we will all live in peace under a rainbow.

Did you see how we defeated ze Nazi candidate?

She wanted to throw all ze Arabs in the sea! How can someone vote for her?

>>2994422
Not to mention that rich person invest it in the economy , theres no such thing as hoarding wealth

You literally just hate the fact that someone has a better life than you

There is no logical reason to hate the rich if they made it honestly

>>2994377
Wealth distribution necessitates a well-funded large state with a lot of resources. What's going to stop them from going on a power trip? What left-wing government HASN'T done that?

>>2994377
It is fundamentally impossible to redistribute wealth and control the economy without being an authoritarian state because such actions inherently destroy individual rights.

>>2994466
Nope.
Just more tax on companies that don't redistribute wealth fairly among it's workers.

2014

>>2994422
>I bet you spend a great deal of time going on about how the bullshit of corporativism wouldn't occur with a real free market too.

>If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them, will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered

>Thomas Jefferson

>>2994501
Those companies will fuck off to other countries with lower tax rates.

>>2994482
Yuropoors don't comprehend the word liberty. Don't even bother. It's a foreign concept to them.

was ist passiert in this thread?
somebody called for help?

>>2994534
>Those companies will fuck off to other countries with lower tax rates.
Well, someone else will take their place then.

Goodbye, France! It's been nice knowing you. Marxists destroy everything they touch.

>>2994536
>America
>freedom

>>2994354
What are you? Some kind of idiotic, uneducated peasant? Go back to your farm, dickhole. Don't forget your pithchfork

>>2994625
>Marxists destroy everything they touch.
Yep. François Hollande isn't a Marxist, though, so I don't see how this is relevant.

>>2994634
I didn't say America is the ideal of freedom but you still have no idea what freedom is.

>>2994661
Of course, we do. We invented it.

But Hollande isn't even Socialist, if that word has still a meaning whatsoever.
He's just an incapable coupled with a traitor and a liar. He will do the exact same thing Sarkozy did, even worse (remember Mitterand ? Remember Beregovoy ? Remember Jospin ?). And that's if he isn't manipulated by everybody around him, since he is lacking the stature of somebody who can rule a nation.

The only difference with Sarkozy is that he will be praised as a hero for everything he will do, instead of a monster. Socialists in France are among the most backstabbing cunts ever met in the entire world. Seriously.

I FRIGGIN LOVE IT!

>>2994605
Yup, until they have the resources to take their business and assets elsewhere as well. Rinse repeat. Companies are profit maximising. They will take their money where the least tax is. Yes it's immoral but it's a fact of life.

The only way to get around it is to have a transaction "robin hood" tax enacted across the entire EU. But even then companies would just piss off to China or some other tax haven.

it's all very well saying "let them leave" but if that's where all the country's money is coming from your standard of life will decline.

>>2994661
Clearly the ideal of freedom is having the right to put your workers in sweatshop conditions and pay them a bare subsistence wage, content in the knowledge that you can always fire the lot of them and replace them with another batch of hungry workers if they complain.

>>2994701
>we invented it
>we
No, you don't.

>boner
>boner
>boner
>boner

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HE GOT FAT.

>>2994482
This is stupid. For Americans, individual rights come before the public interest.
If someone have a big car which pollute a lot, he can do, because it's his car and individual right.
If a huge part of population are poor and are homeless, it's their fault because it's their individual right to work and become rich, so they do not deserve to be helped.
If Apple manufactures its iphones with chinese poor childs who are paid a half rice bowl a day, it's its right because Apple have money and give SOOOO good phones.

A good balance between individual rights and equality/social progress don't mean OMFG USSR COMMUNUSIM STALINE HITLER.

As I said in the second thread, the socialist François Mitterrand has been the French President from 1981 to 1995. And France don't look like USSR.

I want to believe... let's see what happens to my country, now.

>>2994701
Lol Americans are great comic people !

>>2994992
Yuropoors have the largest per capita share of Apple products. So much for ideals of equality, huh?

>Hollande - jew
>Miliband - jew
>Sarkozy - jew

Big shocker, huh?

>>2995067
Apple is an Amerifag company, moron.

>>2995106
Anonymous n°1 - racist
Anonymous n°2 - racist
Anonymous n°3 - racist

And no one of them are still jew so lol.

>>2995156

EU will just tell him to shut the fuck up. His policies will wreck any real recovery. Doing what Labour did in the UK and artificially increase in the short term the economy to show all this lovely improvement whilst racking up a fuck tonne of debt - generally fucks you over harder later on.

But socialists will be socialists. Fucking idiots the lot of them.

>>2994446
That's Louis XVI, you moron.

Still.
>4/10

>>2995230
Your conservative tears are delicious.

>>2995156
Apple is a multinational company that happens to be based in America. Doesn't change the fact that yuropoors love slave labor products yet bitch about equality.

>>2993530
>"Pay attention America, you'll see how ACTUAL socialism works,"
>Country absolutely falls apart in the coming years
>"Pffft, when will Ameriafats learn what ACTUAL socialism is? Hollande was NOT socialist!"

>>2995156
That's the point, they're giving in to capitalism and buying the expensive products despite their political ideology.

>Champagne socialism

>watching TV
>mfw people raise algerian and tunisian flags instead of french flags

Young French people celebrating Hollande's victory and the beginning of a new era of cultural enrichment

>>2995325
got any links or vids?
I need to be cheered up after the news of France voting for suicide.

>>2995355
Why are you so mad?

>>2995355
So, you're a primary anti-socialist AND racist. Ok.

better a quick death for France than the drawn-out and ugly affair that was happening under Sarkozy.

It's funny most people bragging here on /pol/ are uneducated rednecks that couldn't afford uni.

If you had lived under a socialist regime you would have gotten all the education you need to have a chance to be as succesfull as anyone.

A famous french raper said :
"Adieu ces nouveaux fascistes
Qui justifient leur vie de merde par des idéaux racistes
Devenu néo-nazis parce que t'avais aucune passion
Au lieu de jouer les SS, trouve une occupation"

>>2995491
>If you had lived under a socialist regime you would have gotten all the education you need to have a chance to be as succesfull as anyone.

Yes, a sub standard rate. Lovely. Most jobs don't even need university, it's a lovely way to get people off the dole register though. Nice try.

>>2995491
>If you do not agree with Hollande, you are a horrible fascist that cannot tolerate other opinions and want to supress freedom of thought