>>2979373
how many bongs is it right now in London?

What did you take at University?

How hard is Rupert Murdoch going to get fucked?

Are you aware that Jews are in control of your country?

You're lying.

If you're not. Stop being a fucking worthless sack of shit and do your job rather than bending over for your party

>not even stating which party you're with

Why are you all corrupt money stealing bastards? You know I wont even probably bother voting. It will not make a difference, the majority of you are all rotten career politicians who would never let the uncorrupted join you.

A prime example would be how you never let british republicans take a seat in parliment officially. The only reason for this is the majority of you benefit with the current status quo, through power and money because the crown power protects you.

Summary
Chances are you are a dispicable person who cares only for yourself and not the people of the nation.

What part of the UK do you represent?

also why is Diane Abbott such a cunt?

How much money do Jewish lobbies pay you personally?

What's George Galloway like in person?

>>2979466

The Republicans don't have the backing to get a seat anywhere. They're a fringe group

>>2979373
Do you hate niggers and immigrants in general? Especially the ones who slum up the streets and get on welfare

Go to bed, Galloway.

>>2979532
Sure they are, because monarchist are so the rage now. Last time i checked the large majority of the country are extremly apathetic to the monarchy or politics because nothing changes and the people never get a say. This being parliment is full of rich toadies who would lick the shit out of elizibeth windsors arse crack if asked to.

How are you going to stop the coalition from spying on the internet?

>>2979466
>A prime example would be how you never let british republicans take a seat in parliment officially.

lol, you don't follow british politics, do you?

Plenty of republicans have been MP's.

Why does london smell like piss?

>>2979427
I do my job as best I can, and I've never done anything that made me feel morally uneasy. Most of my constituents are pretty happy with me, but I can understand why people think so many politicians are cunts. I thought the same before I got involved myself – many people here are in it for the right reasons, even people I disagree with politically.

There are, of course, plenty of people who are just plain awful. Call-me-Dave is one – he strikes me as a slimy git.

>>2979384
Ah, now that would be revealing! I assure you I didn't study a cookie-cutter politician subject, like PPE, law, or some other useless nonsense like that. I did not go to Oxbridge either.

>>2979468
The Member for Hackney seems easily frustrated, and seems to have some unqualified delusions of grandeur.

Oh, and that's parliamentarian for "cunt". You cannot call someone that in the Commons.

>>2979466
First off, see my first answer. Secondly, I disagree with the set-up of the UK as it is, and would favour a federalised republic.

I think it is achievable, but I'd be putting myself and my party at incredible risk by going public. If I said what I just typed, the Mail/Sun or some other wank-rag would run a headline like: "ASBO MP WANTS 2 DECAPITATE QUEEN LIZ – TITS ON PAGE 3".

You can imagine how that would play in the sticks. Speaking of that, most voters are morons. Seriously. They have no idea what I do or what any party stands for – or, they know what we should do and feel so powerless in holding us to account that they abstain. It's a terrible set-up, and one I feel can only be achieved by making education in politics integral from an early age. It's really, really important that all people vote, and that those voters are actually informed.

>>2979579

Yeaaaah you're clearly American. Or some anti-social cunt who sits in his cheap flat angry over anything.

Hate to tell you but people here are either neutral or favourable towards the monarchy.
This is why Republic are a fringe group. This is why the only reason they've stayed around all this time is because of the CIA financing them and padding their member list with fake identities.

How can politicians make all sorts of pledges during campaign season and then get away with blatantly breaking said pledges while once in Parliament?

If I tried to pull that kind of crap at my job, I'd be tossed out on my ass in 5 minutes, tops.

>>2979613

Why does London control national politics?
For half a century the north has been left to rot.

>>2979603
Not officially, if you bothered to observer parlimentary rules then you would know that you have to take an oath to serve the current monarch. There have been elected officials who were not allowed to take their seats because they refused to take the pledge. Yet iit is still called democracy

How old are you? Are you in one of the major parties?

Do MPs hate the unelected Warsi too?

>>2979637

But it's only called that by idiots. We're a parliamentary monarchy. That's superior to a democratic republic

What sort of cognitive dissonance do you employ to convince yourself that the UK is still relevant in a day and age where it's the U.S. and China that truly rule the world?

What can you to do to help stop London becoming a multicultural nightmare

>>2979616
Sorry to point out your slanderous bullshit but i am neither an american or in a flat. I may not be rich but I get by. Last time i checked the only reason people i mentioned gave a shit about the monarchy recently is because they got a day off themselves. The only people who do care are the rich, the old and those bombarded with propoganda. The more south you go the number of pro tends to rise which does not suprise me because thats where the wealthy reside who profit of the status quo. You can piss of with you stupid conspiricy theorists. That is just like a monarchist. Defend their position with crackpot ideas and claims of moral repugnance by republicans.

>>2979699
London already is a multicultural nightmare

>>2979662
No it really is not. Having power vested in one person by birth right, who can not be removed and has the authority to diband goverment is not prefferable to a system where everybody has the chance to rise to leadership. A leadership where when they fuck up the people will vote them out and if its a supreme fuck up they will be held accountable rather then have the incident hidden.

>>2979702

Well lets put it this way.
Would you want to live in a democratic republic considering how those tend to end up.

How long until Sharia law gets implemented?

Why are you importing millions of unskilled shitskins and not millions of East Asians?

>>2979741

You can remove the monarch. You kill them.
Or are you one of those "waaaah I might get hurt in a revolution" pansies?

You know there was a thread similar to this except it was a US senator. I'm beginning to feel the same guy is making multiple threads.

>>2979632
Whilst many politicians do this, and I often wondered why too, I noticed very early on in my political career that this isn't always true.

About half the time, the politician over-promised and under-delivered, or just outright lied. The other half, it is that those accusing the politician of lying are expecting the ridiculous, have no idea what MPs do, or have no idea what a particular member promised.

>>2979637
The only members that is true of is Irish republican nationalists. In recent times, that has only meant Sinn Féin. They're the only party that continue abstentionism.

I can see where they're coming from in refusing to take the oath as a symbolic gesture, but in practice I think it sets them back. They would be better to adopt the SDLP's approach and take their seats, conceding that the oath is practically meaningless (which it is). I do not consider myself to have any real "loyalty" to the crown, and if push came to shove and the monarch exercised their power, I doubt anyone else in the House would.

As for republicans in parliament, there are some scattered in the Labour and Lib Dem ranks.

>>2979766

NO SHIT SHERLOCK.

>>2979746
Says this with no examples. The US may be having problems but they are not exactly irrelevant or any worse off then we are. You also have france and a whole host of western nations that have thrown of this morally repugnant tradition of rule by birth. Oh and if you are going to site "how those tend up" I suggest you look into the history of the world to see how much blooshed there has been when one man or women born into power has gone unchecked and there narcisstic ego has lead to the death of countless others purely for their own glory and gain.

Why drown the country in muslims and risk conflict/war?

>>2979468

You are frustrated with her too?
She is ignorant and annoying as shit with a chip on her shoulder.

Not OP btw

>>2979699
London already is a "multicultural city", although I think that term is really cheesy and forced.

It's the largest city in Europe, and on-par with New York. Of course it's full of immigrants, mostly for the same reason as NY is full of immigrants.

If it's of any consolation to you and your anti-immigration views, I'll remind you that most of our immigrants are from Ireland. If you combined all the mainland Europe, American, African, Middle Eastern, etc. immigrants together, the Irish would still outrank them as the largest immigrant group.

>>2979766
I saw that! I don't think that guy was serious (especially given that American Congressmen are usually very old, and unlikely to use computers outside of work), although I assure you I am not him.

>>2979637
>>2979637
Actually no you don't. MP's are allowed to write their own oaths if they choose.

It's mostly done by non Christian MP's but the government has made it clear republicans have the same opportunity should they object to swearing loyalty to the queen. The government has made this very clear in recent years in an attempt to get Sinn Fein MPs to take their seats.

>tfw OP ignores my question
>tfw I don't know which party not to vote for in the next election

>>2979799

Top three nations in the UN human development index are all constitutional/parliamentary monarchies. The "nordic" nations.

As for how democratic republics end up. Look at the bottom half of the UN HDI. It's dominated by democratic republics. But of course their supporters all say "those aren't real ones!"

>>2979775
Ah but there you have it, imagine the effect it would have if republicans were allowed to actually serve openly in parliment. There would be more invovled in parliment and i doubt there would be as much apathy in the voters for either side. People would have a choice and they would be forced to choose. But no that would be to dangerous to the elite so it isnt allowed.

>>2979863

You really expect too much. Most people are happy with the monarch because they don't want to give power to an elected official

>>2979613
>>2979613

>Oh, and that's parliamentarian for "cunt". You cannot call someone that in the Commons.

>that feel when here in Australia you can call anyone, even the prime minister, a cunt in parliment as much as you like

dont you britfags have parlimentry privlage as well?

>Validate my fantasy guys.
Why would an MP make a thread so he could give vague, unspecific and totally predictable answers?
Because he's not an MP.

>>2979846
>London
>the largest city in Europe

aehhh.. looks like british education kicked in.

>Today Moscow is the biggest city in Europe. The population of Moscow is 10,5 million people.

http://bridgetomoscow.com/curious-fact-moscow-population
http://www.citymayors.com/features/euro_cities1.html

>>2979923

Not everyone regards russia as being part of europe

>>2979938
russians, for example.

>>2979938

Western Russia is regarded as Europe

>>2979938

no offense but not everyone regards Britain being europe either.
in a fact there are more people who think moscow is more european than london. and i mean to immigrant population

>>2979863
>Ah but there you have it, imagine the effect it would have if republicans were allowed to actually serve openly in parliment.

They are, you idiot.

>>2979852
What was your question? Link it.

>>2979863
Republicans do serve openly in parliament, and many people have openly opposed the oath.

>>2979901
That's not what parliamentary privilege is. I could break the law (super-injunctions, official secrets, etc.) in what I say, but I could not insult another member.

Equally, I could not call another member a liar without being severely reprimanded by the Speaker.

>>2979923
London is the largest city in the EU, by just about every measure imaginable. I really don't care if it bothers you, as it is incredibly unimportant.

>>2979665
I don't really care who "rules the world", so long as this is a good place to live.

>>2979857
You monarchist always scream this. " Look at the top 3" "Look at the very bottom"
Yet you ignore the rest of the tope 20 and the fact the bottom ones are neither democratic or true republics and are just dictatators that have branded their regimes with the name. Your pointless slandering is pedantic and ignorant. You have no real defense so you continue to shout out slurs and "look at this, see we are better! We are!" whilst obscuring the true picture. Go look through this list and tell me how many of the top 50 are of your precious position.
>>2979888
So the alternative is to have power reside in a person born into it who isnt accountable and cannot be removed? Yes thats sounds extremly favourable. You can out vote a horrible president and have them incacirated the same cannot be said of a monarch.

>>2980020

>another elite education kicking in.

learn differences between Russia and Russian Federation sweety.. seriously.. this mind will save your life..and russians some pullonium pills..

with love.

which mp is your bestest work friend?

Hey OP do you have any inside info about the gun laws? Current trend is the laws are getting better, and I want to know how far we are away from reintroduction of pistols.

Next month law is changed to allow clubs to have a club pistol that members can use.

>>2980061
>>2979591

If you're an MP it means you're like 50.

No one is over 25 here.

>>2980061
>London is the largest city in the EU

its funny how british(fake or not) alwas use "EU" when it comes to their superiority and forget about when it comes to "standing for".

>but I could not insult another member.

well fuck, your parliment must be boring as shit. Here they reguarly call each other fuckwits and cunts all the time while the speaker just sits back and watches and maybe give off a slight sigh from time to time.

>>2980058
Well if that is so explain
>>2979613
The slander they would recieve would be horrific. All dished out by the rich elites in charge of the media who know that anything that threatens the status wuo is bad for their pockets. Even if they now are allowed it would be political suicide to do so because of the majority in parliment from both houses.

>>2980027
I for one would smile the day we left the EU. They have done nothing but try to enslave us by dictating our laws and taxing us. Yet mp's will not give us a referendum as it will effect the money they make and they know the outcome that result from it.

What do you think of the member for Bolsover?

>>2979373
Did you put your EM on expenses?

Is your office in PW or PH?

OP, how widespread is the corruption in parliament?

Are there any that actively promote laws and legislation that is paid for by huge corporations?

>>2979613

>Call-me-Dave

i have only ever heard Scottish Nationalists or Labour pigs use that term. You are probably in the labour party.

>>2980076

What's stopping us removing a monarch?
This is the problem with your kind. You think elections are the only thing that matter. You forget that violence and the threat of it is a great motivator.

Why do you think the monarchy has generally been a good thing for Britain? They're encouraged to not be total dicks through the age old understanding that if they piss us off we'll kill them all.

The political class don't have this. Their biggest fear is not getting elected which isn't that much considering they're a corrupt lot and just give each other work.

Plus end of the day I'm just going to be suspicious of someone who wants that power. At least the monarch doesn't have much choice in the matter and has been taught to deal with it.

>>2980136
>MP
>50
There's a wide age range in Parliament. We haven't had a Prime Minister that old in quite a while.

>>2979591
I'm a Liberal Democrat, but I will vote against the Communications Capabilities Development Programme, if it is introduced to the House, even if that means rebelling.

The party is firmly against it. I hate to sound like Gandalf, but it shall not pass. I'm very, very serious about civil liberties and protecting the integrity of the Internet.

>>2980147
They can use all manner of minced oaths and >imply things, but they can't say things outright. They can't say that other members are lying or drunk. If the OP is an actual MP, I suspect he was bollocked by the Speaker for calling someone a "pipsqueak" on the floor.

Does Warsi actually have a real job or do the Tories just pay her to talk shit on talk shows?

What do you think of Boris and the london results?

Will the Lib Dems recover?

How did you get into politics and what party do you represent?

>>2980200

> I'm very, very serious about civil liberties

So why aren't you UKIP or Libertarian party?

>>2980183
I'm not in Labour and I'm not Scottish. It's still a funny term.

Could've applied equally to Tony Blair, too, but "call me Tony" doesn't quite have the same ring to it.

>>2980216
Because UKIP are cunts and LPUK are nobodies?

Do you think the country would be improved if the entirety of parliament were replaced by bunnies?

I would like all ministers and MP's to release all minutes that are not security related, all emails and receipts. If you are working in our name, and spending our money then you should be happy for us to know why and how you are doing so. Is this a practical and fair request?

>>2980200
>Lib Dem

>>2980200
>I'm a labour democrat


hahahahahahahahahahahaha

>>2980200
Opinions on your party leader and having sold out your voters?

Enjoy no hope of election, or any significant seat numbers for atleast 2 decades

>lib dem

are you an orange booker?

What do you think of Vince Cable and Clegg?

> mfw Labour will get in next election because people are retarded.

>>2979613
>call the voters stupid
>be a lib dem

hah.

>>2980216
UKIP are morons. I wanted to give them a chance, hoping that we'd have another party that's pro-civil liberties, but Farage clearly has no idea what he's talking about. He doesn't know anything about the EU, what it does, or immigration laws.

The EU is far from perfect, but it is overall a good thing for us. There's a reason that no mainstream politician is avowedly eurosceptic – and it is not a conspiracy. I'm not ideologically pro-EU, rather, I've looked at the arrangement, and everything tells me that pulling out would be a monumentally stupid thing to do. We'd be surrounded by the EU, and hence have to obey all their trade laws, whilst having no say over those laws and likely paying higher tariffs. If we pull out of the EU, we'd be forced to turn around and sodomise business in our country.

As for the Libertarians, I'm quite sure the UK Libertarian Party is no longer around. I am not a libertarian anyway, so that's of no interest to me.

>>2980189
"Taught to deal with it" Yes they sure seem to be having such a hard time. You know being told they are greater then everyone and living in gold trimmed palaces, having everything they ever wanted at their finger tips. Life must be very hard for them. True some people may lust for power but how are the windsors any different? The already have the power yet look at charles. He still has to go around sticking his nose in places he shouldnt be. A corrupt official you can remove peacefully. You implied we should use violence to remove the monarch. Would i say revolution is never the answer? No i wouldnt. In fact i would say in the next 60 years civil disobediance and in an extreme case that civil war/revolution could be in the nations future. Over the monarchy? Certainly not. They are repugnant but would not even be on the minds of those revolutionaries at least not as the main reason for their actions. Why would we use violence for this. The only people who would get hurt would be innocent commoners like me and you. That would do nothing for our view and would rightly demonise us and ruin our moral postion.

what are you doing to help the fight against israel

Do you know if the tories are happy to see scotland go considering they have no representation there and most of the rest of the UK with the exception of the ulster community in northern Ireland are pretty much indifferent to the breakup of the union?

>>2980299
>call UKIP "stupid"
>Be a Lib dem

I can sense the butthurt from here, did somebody lose his job? You aren't an MP anymore, are you?

>>2980273

what do you have against orange?

>>2980200
Back bench, I'm assuming. It sounds like one of those measures that people will abuse to highlight an apparent disconnect between front and back without understanding that as the Treasury bench front has to vote for it no matter what.

>>2980330

>UKIP not stupid

no. they are fucking morons

>>2980299

> The EU is far from perfect, but it is overall a good thing for us.

> Paying millions every day
> Good
> Being subject to the laws of Brussels
> Good

>>2980299
It isn't about you though, it's about the public. This is exactly why nobody trusts politicians anymore, and it's because you put democracy in the passenger seat and your own personal opinions first.

Nobody wants to stay in Europe anymore. even if some people did, they are in the vast, vast minority.

>>2980299

This may or may not be incriminating but..

Do you have a safe seat or are you in a marginal constituency (without naming your constituency).

I really want to believe an MP browses 4chan.

>>2980160
>Well if that is so explain

It has been explained in this thread, do try and keep up.

The first option for a republican MP is to ask to write their own oath, which they are allowed to do.

If they can't be bothered they can just take the oath then once it's done say "lol jk, fuck the queen".

>The slander they would recieve would be horrific. All dished out by the rich elites in charge of the media who know that anything that threatens the status wuo is bad for their pockets. >Even if they now are allowed it would be political suicide to do so because of the majority in parliment from both houses.

There are openly republican MP's, they don't get slandered, they haven't committed political suicide. You are living in a fantasy world and know nothing about the political climate of the UK.

If you are actually living in this country then I suggest you crawl out of your basement once in a while and learn about the world around you, if not I suggest you stop commenting on something you obviously know nothing about.

What age range are you in? It'd interesting to know if we had a 50+ MP on 4chan.

>>2980333

OP Do you regret being a politician? Any tips for someone who wants to get into politics? Is the pay good?

>>2980361

> Walking away from crash alive after being a tangled mess
> alpha as fuck

Pick two

>>2980365
You don't seem to get it, he's a liberal democrat. Nothing he says makes any sense, nor is it true.

>>2980302

I will not disagree on Charles.
He is a slimey piece of shit who should never be allowed on the throne. The man had the misfortune to be born into royalty when he is far better suited to a life as a politician.

Being the monarch may be comfy and cushy. But you're essentially enslaved. You've got no choice about how you live your life unless you leave it all behind.
Of course with the ever present danger that is the British people looming over your head. That is if pussies like you have your way and make us forget about violence.

As for the current monarch. She's pretty good. Helped manage the decline of the Empire in a way that left us on great terms with most if not all of our former colonies and dominions. We are the only former colonial power who can claim that. We are the only ones who can go "That former colony of ours? They're our bros"
She's good. She stays out of daily politics only stepping in when shit gets bad.

>>2980365
> Paying millions every day

>>2980299
We have the commonwealth that would be a very lucrative source of trade with our shared bonds. We are also the third biggest economy in the EU so if we left i highly doubt the EU would try to fuck us over. If they did it would hurt them a hell of alot more then it hurt us as like i said commonwealth. The day we leave we get less tax and the power of our law making back. The EU will panic when we leave and try to offer us better deals as they would collpase trying to prop us the smaller countries without us. All other international investers would see the volatile position the EU would be in. This would make them invest more in a now more active commonwealth or other places like china.

TL:DR we dont need the EU. They need us

>>2980383
AIUI, there's nothing stopping an MP taking the oath under protest. See Tommy Sheridan's inauguration in the Scottish Parliament. Personally I find it repugnant that SF members can draw a salary and claim expenses without taking their seats. It's like signing on to do a job and immediately telling your employer that you won't be turning up - see how long that job lasts.

Why did you take away the right to self-defense?

>>2980108

OP pls respond, I'm bored of this, it takes 5 minutes to reload.

>>2980365
>implying we would not be subject to the laws of Brussels if we left

Did you sit at the time of the expenses scandal? Were you implicated?

would you fap to this picture of QEII, OPMP?

>>2980442

> Leave EU
> EU has no power over us

We could tell Brussels to fuck off.

>>2979373
Are you a Freemason and if so which degree?

>>2980460
>implying it wouldn't be the EU telling us to fuck off

>>2979857
>As for how democratic republics end up. Look at the bottom half of the UN HDI. It's dominated by democratic republics. But of course their supporters all say "those aren't real ones!"

>"Don't be ridiculous; of course North Korea is a democratic republic. It says so right in the name!"

>>2980445
I could be convinced given time...

>>2980486

And who gives a shit if they do? EU do NOTHING for us. Just steal our money and dictate our laws.

Are you anti-White?

Do you support White genocide?

I'm sure the Australians and Canadians have approached our former government about forming a commonwealth super-state a few years back, that would be much more in our favour.

Fuck Europe. We have nothing in common, we all hate eachothers guts, and it's destined to die a very violent death soon.


Very soon.

>>2980489

The level of corruption matters not. They are a democratic republic. Just an incredibly corrupt and twisted one.

>>2980434
They've been trying to encourage SF to take their seats over the past couple of years, emphasising the fact they can write their own oath without any mention of the queen.

TBF SF claim they do a lot of constituency work which wouldn't surprise me, and I was under the impression they only get the average working wage anyway.

How could you sell out your own people to the Jews and the Negro and Muslim hordes?

>>2980513

This would be a good idea. Bringing the commonwealth closer as an international political entity would be a wise and bold move.

A third of the human race. One of the finance centres of the world. A good strategic position on almost every continent. Rising economies. Old world clout. And most importantly? Nations of every major cultural and racial group.

It's the fucking international dream team.

I think Paxman gets it right here, the Queen has been a vital diplomat for us throughout the decades.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLcJWIPWHqY

>>2980415
I am not afraid to incite for violence. Infact i do believe that revolution may be the only solution if things do not change within the next 20 years. Am i deluded to think that rioting and civil war is the answer to something just because i vehemently oppose it? No. You have to have a better reason then personal motivation. When people in this country become more beaten down then they already are. When our own people are opressed to the point of slavery and those in power both "elected" and not have the audacity to not even placate us with lies and laugh in our faces. Then the streets will drown in blood. But not before and not without good reason or the possibilty to still save ourselves through civilised means. Violence is both, not always the answer or never the answer. A philosophy of absouloutes only leads to ruin at an excelerated rate.
As for charles and elizebeth. You pointed out a fallacy of monarchy without even noticing it. You are playing a dangerous lottery. You may be lucky and get a relatvivly benign person such as liz or you may get disgusting people like charles and his father. Same goes for politicians. You can at least get rid of a president after his term finishes or imprison him for truly horrific acts. The same doesnt apply to royalty who are above the law.

>>2980551
lot of blacks and muslims in the common wealth...

>>2980509
>And who gives a shit if they do?
They're our biggest trading partner. If we're outside the EU, our trade with them still has to meet EU regulations, otherwise that trade doesn't happen. Only then we'd have no say in those regulations, unlike the rather generous opt-outs and ability to affect these rules that we currently have. When it comes to trade alone, there are no disadvantages to being in the EU, only advantages, and every single one of those advantages would be lost if we left. But hey, we'd get 40 billion a year back, right?

>>2980551
Britain would be at the helm too, so fuck Brussels and its dying empire. Britannia shall rise again!

>>2980575

Norway arn't in the EU and it's going pretty great.

OP left?

Do you want Britain to be a progressive society free of hate or are you a naziwhowantstokill6millionjews?

>>2980572
The difference is, we would be able to decide on how we conduct our own affairs and immigration.

None of this EU human rights bollocks, we would be at the helm.

>>2980584

To be honest I doubt there would be a helm. Britain would be a big mover in such an entity due to the fact that internationally it's the guy who gets into every party. But it wouldn't be a new empire.

>>2980586
Not actually been to Norway, I take it.

>>2980599
The Queen would still be the figurehead for the Commonwealth union, and the capital nation, and it's city, would be London.

Everything would have to go through London, we would be what Brussels is to Europe.

>>2980330
I am an MP. I did not call UKIP stupid, I called Farrage stupid.

As I said, I wanted to give them a fair chance, and I did. They proved they weren't a good party – you're welcome to disagree.

Just so it's said: If AV had been introduced, UKIP would stand a much better chance of getting a seat. Clearly, a fair minority of people want them to do so (I'd prefer they didn't, but my opinion ≠ democracy).

>>2980379
First off, democracy is not mob rule. Just because a lot of people want to do something does not make it wise. I've become less eurosceptic over the years, and am convinced we're better off in the EU.

I really can't find any good argument that leaving the EU will benefit us that extends beyond some nonsense nationalist rant. On the other hand, I'm aware of many severe and unpleasant consequences for our leaving it.

The EU needs to be reformed, certainly, but pulling out of it would hurt us. I don't want to hurt the country.

>>2980380
It was a marginal before I won it. I'm confident I'll hold the seat, but if I don't, I suppose I'll go apply for a job.

Just so it's said, I'm not well-off, not from a rich family, and don't have daddy's money to fall back upon. I didn't use my expenses to pay the mortgage on a house in London at your expense either, unlike most Labour (working class – I think not) and Tory scum. I wouldn't want to live in London anyway.

>>2980618

Which part didn't you like? The massive welfare system that means there's no poor? The zero crime? The superior standard of living?

All without any EU.

>>2980597
>The difference is, we would be able to decide on how we conduct our own affairs and immigration.

if we're going to forge closer relations with the common wealth we're going to get more immigration from the common wealth

Where do you think all the blacks and muslims came from in the first place?

It's just trading the Polish for even more muslims and blacks

>>2980586

The Norwegians hate it, they are in the trade zone so they have to obey by EU rules but they have absolutely no influence in how those rules are made.

>>2980522
Putting a label on something does not make it true. Democratic implies they have free and fair elections. They do not. I wont even bother explaining the republican part. Your brain is probably having trouble with the first part.
You may understand this though with your limited and bacwards mind.

Say i take a tin. You cant see in the tin and it is completly sealed so you cannot smell the contents. Now lets say before it was sealed i took a huge steaming shit in the tin and ten sealed it. I then put a nicely designed and appealing label on the front saying pork and beans. I then gave you the tin and told you that it was infact a tin of pork and beans. You would believe me. I said its a tin of pork and beans and it even has a fancy label. That must mean it is pork and beans! There is no way its just a turd in a metal tin.

>>2980625

No. The Queen is the head of the commonwealth but when she dies there's no set policy for a successor. It's not tied to the throne.

Plus India is going to be a big shaker in such an entity. You wouldn't be able to do it big time British control. Maybe have us as the commonwealths administrative hub. But we'll never rule it and thats probably a good thing. Heading for what was actually our colonial end goal.

>>2980625
>we would be what Brussels is to Europe.

Brussels doesn't run Europe, it's just where everyone meets.

>>2980639
Norway is in EFTA. This allows them to be in Europe without being in the EU. If we left the EU, presumably we would not be rejoining EFTA, so our trade would not be on the same terms as Norway. In any case, Norway still has to trade on terms dictated by the EU. It can survive on lower trade volumes because it has plenty of oil.

What do you think of the BNP?

Do you support their stand against White genocide and standing up for the rights of the indigenous people of Britain?

>>2980394
I do not regret it. I knew I was essentially opening myself up to contempt before I did it, but I only stood because I couldn't stand the other people. If I thought the other parties, or another politician, could do a better job, then I'd resign immediately.

>Any tips for someone who wants to get into politics?
First off, learn how it works. You have a vast Internet full of information, so get off your ass (figuratively, you'll be sitting) and learn! I did not come from a political family, so I taught myself.

Since I was young, I often wondered how one became a politician. I always thought some of the things they did were silly, and that I could do better. So I decided I'd do so.

I followed a fairly straightforward route in to Parliament, as I did not have special connections. I joined the Liberal Democrats, went to constituency meetings, and before that youth meetings, and talked to people. I put my name forward to be selected as our candidate, I went around handing out leaflets and knocking on doors, and I won the seat.

It sounds rather simple, and in truth it is. Just go and try it – if you've got something to offer, if you really believe in people and want to make things better, then you'll probably go very, very far.

>Is the pay good?
You can find out our salary online. We also have expenses, but I only take a modest amount. If you're getting in to it for the money (and it's a decent salary compared to most people's), I suggest you don't bother.

If you're in this for the right reasons, you should be willing to do it for free if that were necessary. It is not a way to make money.

they just build a big block of flats near parliament, kinda like student dorms and let the mp's stay there free when they're in Westminster, fuck giving them expenses they can use to pay a mortgage.

What is with the thought police and no free speech in Britain?

Every day I hear about another pro-White dissident being jailed for the words they speak. It's actually giving me a very bad impression of Britain. Is there anything in the works to stop this?

>>2980509

> as a proud mexican i have to say: And who gives a shit if they do? EU do NOTHING for us. Just steal our money and dictate our laws.

seriously.. who the fuck are you to demand something from EU?

>>2980635

Hey you asshole, why did you vote to raise tuition for us?

>>2980708
Like you said you never came from a rich or (expensivly) educated background. You are not in the "elite" which is why you only hold a minor seat. Face it until the status quo changes the rich and powerful will continue to dominate the scene and put the pennies of the poorman in their already bursting pockets whilst they continue to ignore and undermind the cries of anger from the public.

>>2980723

Usually because pro-white groups are a bunch of racist cunts who hate non-whites

>>2980708
Will you be running for Prime Minister?

>>2980108
I wouldn't personally have any problem with people owning guns for self-defence, provided owners are licensed and tested for competence to own such equipment.

I don't have any information you don't have. It's not really a big issue.

>>2980708
>It is not a way to make money.

3x the national average, generous expenses and benefits, consultants to become "consultants" for private companies

>>2980741

> Pro white
> Racist
> Hate non whites

Well done Sherlock

is it true you can smoke in the commons bar?

>>2980741
The anti-White establishment has been importing millions of non-Whites, many of whom go around abusing the indigenous White population.

Can you blame them for being angry about it?

How many councilors do you have left in Scotland?

as a lib dem, what do you think about the coalition? do you think your party has any chance of recovering?

>>2980551

bwhahahaha.. yeahh. white peoples union. rising economies. will do whatever british royals will told them..

>>2980815

I never said anything about race. Seems like your sort of thing stormfag

>>2980825
What is a "stormfag" and why do you call him it?

>>2980825

you did.

truth teller = stormfag

>>2980849

its polite term for internet nazis. comes from stormfront. the nazi propaganda website.

>>2980711
That's actually a good idea. The idea of paying your mortgage with public money is repugnant (it's not a big public expense relatively speaking, but it's horribly immoral).

I'm glad you're aware that so many "Honourable" Members do this. It is a travesty.

>>2980742
One does not run for Prime Minister. I might run for the leadership some day, but not any time soon.

If I ran the party, I probably could become Prime Minister. Clegg is a great guy, and would be great in the cabinet or as a well-known backbencher, but his leadership is not fantastic. He is not good for the party in the place he's in.

>>2980787
I have no idea. Look it up.

>Council elections
>Implying anyone cares
I was a local councillor once. Nobody cares about what you do and the turnout is very low – the results don't really mean very much.

>>2979846
>If it's of any consolation to you and your anti-immigration views, I'll remind you that most of our immigrants are from Ireland. If you combined all the mainland Europe, American, African, Middle Eastern, etc. immigrants together, the Irish would still outrank them as the largest immigrant group
You cunt, nice red herring. Justify a one million increase in non British born residents in 13 years , you just dodge hard questions, pathetic.
as of 2010, London's foreign-born population is 2,650,000 (33 per cent), up from 1,630,000 in 1997.

>>2980891
Really there are "nazis" still around? I'm pretty sure that all the members of the NSDAP are all dead by now.

Oh wait, that's right. You braindead anti-White call any pro-White a herp-muh-gawd naziwhowantstokill6billionjews!!!

>>2980915

>That's actually a good idea

it isnt. the shit will blow up. trust me. french are using this shit for decades and it is expensive as fuck.

>>2980915

You never answered why you voted for raising our tuition fees. Can I get an answer on that?

>>2980761
>>2980809

mp still here?

>>2980920

please tell me more about.

>>2980917
Holy fucking SHIT I had no idea London was that awful

From what Brits said I thought Blacks were just like 2%

>>2981004

why is this awful nazikun?

>>2981004

2% of 60,000,000 is a lot, and they're all in London.

>>2981004
>From what Brits said I thought Blacks were just like 2%

When we say that, we're not counting London.

I used to live in Deptford, I quite enjoyed it, I intend to move back soon.

OP, I just have to say, if you are truly an MP, I have so much respect for you.

I watch Prime Minister's Questions on youtube every wednesday and I honestly think British politics is God tier (I'm an American btw).

While I generally have to vote Democrat in my country (because Republicans have turned extreme in recent years) I feel like the parliamentary system you guys have is really superior.

Anyway, just wanted to give my tip of the hat. I hope one day to be a politician in our own Congress, but I know I'll never be as badass as an MP.

Keep fighting for the people and what you believe in dude,

>>2980917

Why is their a massive splash of poverty in bexley & bromley when it's all white?

>>2981018
I'm American and have not been to the UK yet, but it looks like its fucking detroit from that map, not what a proper English city should be

I guess being American I have more of a romantic and idealistic idea of what Britain was and should be from watching period dramas and whatnot, sigh...

>>2981067
oh you silly yanks

Out of curiosity, how long have you been in Parliament? First term or longer?

>>2981067

Protip: Downton Abbey is not shot in London.

>>2981067
>I'm American and have not been to the UK yet, but it looks like its fucking detroit from that map, not what a proper English city should be

detroid and shit

>>2981067
London is like that, however the towns and cities in the countryside are beautiful

>>2981059

>implying whites cant be poor

You must be American, most British people know that young working class whites are worse then niggers and muslims.

>>2981103
>cities in the countryside

I think OP left. Too bad, he never did answer for why he and his peers decided to screw over us students by increasing tuition.

>>2980917
That graph is so poorly descriptive with its categories of Black African (highest range is 6-35.7%), Black Caribbean (highest range is 6-22.9%), Indian (6-54.2%), Bangladeshi (10-58.2%), Jewish (5-32.7%), and White British (whose lowest range is 8.7-50%). There's also a few other odd ranges, but I'm too lazy to list more.

The graph was clearly made to be deceptive.

>>2981127

haha. good one dude.

Are you Tom Watson?

LUTON
68% White british

Leicester
58%

London
59.5

Nottingham 76%, Derby 80%, Manchester 71%, Milton Keynes 85%, Birmingham 64%, liverpool 87%, bradford 70% peterborugh 86.8%(whitebritish&polish)

>>2981127
Wells? Bath? Truro? Winchester?

>>2981163

Tom Watson is labour, dumbass.

4 morning in london.

>>2980917
>>2981150
Also, as an addendum, the claim of foreign born population would still include Irish, so I don't see how that does anything to argue his point. Irish people coming to Britain are more likely to integrate.

>>2981180

It's 3 bong

>>2981150
why don't you tell the person who made it

>Every race, colour, nation and religion on earth
London in 2005 can lay claim to being the most diverse city ever. Leo Benedictus has spent months travelling across the capital, locating and visiting the immigrant communities that give the city its vibrancy and, more importantly, its food.

>>2981203

fix your clock faggot.

>>2981176
they aren't in the country side, they are cities

> Living in a city.

>>2981210
the five largest foreign-born groups living in London in the period July 2009 to June 2010 were those born in India, Poland, the Republic of Ireland, Bangladesh and Nigeria.

>>2981217

It's 3 bong in the North

and thus for the rest of England
http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/city.html?n=136

silly colonial

I think Simon Wright has left the building.

>>2981297
I would flee too after this hard hitting post:
>>2980917

>>2981129
It was the Tories. We're the junior party in a coalition and had little power to stop it, as they were determined to do so.

I'm not happy that Clegg and Cable broke their promise to NUS – that's the real issue, IMO. Labour introduced fees in the first place, and I assume they'd have raised fees had they continued in government.

>Screw us over
As unsympathetic as it sounds, it's more of an inconvenience than anything. It is not going to prevent anyone going to university, as you will get the money for it regardless. Just to remind you, I'm not some toff, and I doubt my mother could have paid my way in to Oxbridge. I was the first in my immediate family to go to university. If I were a few years younger, I'd be in exactly the same position as you – quite likely worse, if your parents can afford to help you out or have any connections.

With the way the loan system works, you're not going to pay anything back until you can afford to, and if you can't get a good job, you won't.

Personally, I still feel the fees shouldn't have went up, and that they should be abolished. A Lib Dem majority government, however unlikely that is, would do that with immediate effect. It would be funded by tax – which, given that only high-earners who likely got to their position because of a de facto free university education, would be paid by the same people who pay back student loans now.

Thinking of it that way, student loans and the tuition fees they cover are basically a progressive tax for education. Simply eliminating fees and funding education entirely with tax would cut a lot of the administration costs involved with making loans and claiming them back, and would actually save us all money.

>>2981232
>city of Ely
>not in the countryside

>>2981311
so do you think the lib dems will ever recover?

how does if feel about the best leader your party has ever being an alcoholic?

>>2981059
i just did some searching and found a high non British child population around 10-20%

>>2981311

>abolish uni fees

Where would you get this money? You sound like a green where money is shat out by magical unicorns.

>Member of Parliament
>Not revealing anything incriminating

>>2981311
>shouldn't have went
I refuse to believe that anyone who would write in this poor a manner could get into Parliament.

>>2981343

>Kennedy
>best lib dem leader
>not Ashdown

you sicken me

>>2981358

> Where would you get this money?

- Leaving EU
- Cutting all foreign aid
- Pulling out of everywhere but the Falklands
- Making weed legal and taxing it

>>2981103
Are you guys ever going to try and retake London or just give it up?

>>2981179
>dumbass
>>>/america/
Besides I hadn't read the thread, I just feel like Tom Watson is a 4chaer.

Do you look like this OP?

>>2981325
A city is an urban area, the countryside is not an urban area. An area cannot be both urban and non urban at the same time. Many cities (all cities in the uk?) are surrounded by countryside, and while it is more noticeable in smaller cities such as the one you posted it is also true for larger cities such as London.

>>2981311

Damn! I was wrong. This isn't Simon Wright. This is Stephen Gilbert. I was trying to determine which one of you two it was.

http://stephengilbert.org.uk/en/page/tuition-fees

"Let me state clearly that I still believe that higher education should be free for those that have the ability to benefit from it. I was the first in my family to go to university and I passionately believe that every single person should have access to the same opportunities as I did."


Proof of this? Watch our MP disappear into the night!

>>2981387
its not just London we have about 6 city's with a huge non white population

>>2981343
>how does if feel about the best leader your party has ever being an alcoholic?

Holy shit I typed that? Time for me to call it a night.

>>2981424
>A city is an urban area
Nope. A city is a settlement with city status.

Why aren't you defecting to UKIP?

>>2981358
>Where would you get this money?

graduate tax