EAT THE RICH

>>276995
Also, I'm fairly drunk, but I think that'll just level the playing field. Call me on fallacies, call me on conjecture, I'll even call myself on anecdotal evidence. Bring it.

because fuck the poh-leez

>>277016
>>277008
I see the "intelligent" are sleeping for the fight tomorrow.

They're just aiming hopelessly at the symptoms and not the cause.
The real problem is the money supply, but there's no easy way to fix things without resetting everyone's debt/money.

>>276995
big banks/wall street caused this whole economic crisis.Yet they are at record profits.(most)while there are thousand and thousand of people unemployed. a lot of these people are unemployed b/c of things like outsourcing or being fired to save a company, but like this guy said>>277038 the protester aren't really doing anything to help. Just pointing out the problems.

>>277038
There is no job shortage, there is a bar set too low. I walk into a store and people are confused when I ask where jars or razorblades are... they should not have an income. Common sense and the ability to read and understand the store they work in should be paramount, there is no excuse.

>>277063
Outsourcing is your fault for buying the cheaper version of whatever you wanted to get. Supply and demand, it goes both ways. You, as a consumer, defined the market... they followed your habits, your want for cheaper goods. Don't fight against your own choice.

>>277068
how does that mean there is there is no job shortage. You may think the guy at McDonald or wal-mart are shit low paid morons, but the odds are you couldn't get a job there right now.But you made a good point. Companies would rather hire people who have no clue what they are doing at cheap cost. Then hire some one with experience.

Well they're not doing a run on the banks, they're just transfering money to credit unions. And there's not enough people for it to be a "run on the bank."

Too big to fail is bullshit, and corporations shouldn't be people.

yeah as a support of the occupy movement i was wondering about this too. You never... NEVER!!! want a run on the banks. that makes world economy go boom fall down and then there are no jobs as hyper inflation starts kicking in

>>277068
There is a job shortage. We've got almost 10% unemployment. We lack factories, which was the best way for relatively skilled labour to do their thing.

>>277096
ceos really don't make that much
if you evenly distributed that money among the workers it wouldn't amount to shit

>>277105
All they did was pull their money from big bank. Into little banks.Why would that cause any trouble to the economy?

>>277105
sometimes that's what needs to happen

>>277092
Yep, the only times I've been told why I've been turned down were that I was over qualified, having three successful businesses on my own. That said, you niggas need to learn to tailor your resume to the job you are applying for, duh.
>>277096
Occupy SC has their funds stored safely in WelsFargo, the bank they are marching on. It's easier to access it that way. Too big to fail is dependent. Car companies should have gone bust (go, Ford, go!), banks should not have. The new $5 fee if the fault of users for not being proactive, and they could easily get an ATM only card, and avert the fees. Dislike of cash? Get a credit card and don't spend money you don't have, no fees, or at least smaller fees, and avoid spending money you don't have! That way you get interest on your cash before the end of the month.

It's not a fucking 1,000,000 piece puzzle, just don't be stupid and you'll be fi- oh wait...

>>277142
>>277140
But kept the movement money is big banks... yeah... and because you don't understand how banks work.

Government institutions like Freddie Mac and Fannie May caused the economic collapse, also idiots who couldn't afford houses and knew it, Wall Street then made a profit off the situation, which is what they do, then things collapsed and Government instead of letting the market correct itself, simply gave all the offending parties money.

tl;dr The American people got hijacked by banks but banks were only able to do that because of the Government yet no one protests the Government

>>277140
because magic economics say so. that is how it works. it was not a real run think the lord. you see how all this happened didn't you. did you see what happened with northern rock with just a bit of rumour.

>>277105

>Banks cause economic instability
>We can't go against the banks, it will cause economic instability!

Circular problem is circular

>>277175
so lie on your cv... good advice fraud. the sort of thing you expect to here from a CEO

>>277232
THIS

The whole point of OWS SHOULD be about lobbying in government because that is really what caused all the problems yet idiot OWS protesters would rather have a run on banks while the real problem is in Washington DC

>>277260

Meanwhile in other countries, you need not lie to get jobs.

>>277232
>>277270
the blame a bought and owned institution is like blaming the mob lawyer for the crimes of the mob

>trollface.JPEG

That's what ill put up when marked bills from a drug buy/bust get deposited into ows account and they all get raped under the RICO act.

>hay guise lets give da guise we protest the ability to look at our transactions.... nope.mpg

>>277275
yeah but mister 3 companies say you have to to get a job. good advice is all i'm saying

>I'm pro choice, which means I'm fighting to give up my rights, to give unilateral control of reproduction to another.

Excuse me?

You have no rights to what is growing a in woman's body as it stands, you give up that right when you impregnate her. So I don't understand how you say you're giving up something (which I feel is inconsequential even if you were truly giving up something)


That aside the occupy movement has no plan, they're just spouting ineffective rhetoric at people who only pretend to care (politicians).

>>277280
Want to know why companies outsource? Government regulation, simple as that, companies get raped so hard that they have to maintain competitiveness somehow, you forget that this is the age of globalization. So by your logic government can never be blamed because it's all actually evil capitalists who caused all the problems

>>277287
FEMINIST DETECTED

>>277287
yeah but is this not the truth of all political movements. looks a the republican and democratic parties

>>277287
What bullshit, when you impregnate a woman its YOUR SEED in her and her egg, the rights are shared, gb2 kitchen

>>277096
If that comic is true why is there no undercover janitor running a multinational company?

>>277288
You have to take into account that companies always have to please shareholders above all.
If they can raise their stock prices by outsourcing, they'll do it.

>>277291
unless they are a free market advocate... here that is a good point. property rights say that abortion is legal to the foetus is given birth too

>>277291
Not even close. I was stating a fact of how the American legal system works.

Be male:
*You can not force a woman to abort
*You are not released from responsibility if she refuses to abort
*You are not entitled to the child
*You are at strong disadvantage for custody disputes
*You will pay child support which increases as your income increases for at least 18 years
**Your child probably won't even see the money, as mothers spending it on themselves is extremely common

>>277232
TLDR: Doesn't explain the movement.
>>277260
Welcome to the real world.
>>277280
Indeed.

>>277298
that property is sold in the sex transaction. sorry. if you want to take part in the child's life you have to make a buy in

>>277319
It explains the fallacy of the movement, protest banks as much as you want, as long as you have a bought and sold government nothing will change

occupy wall street is a bunch of socialistfa­gs forgetting how the U.S.S.R. and forgetting present day Korea Or Cuba, think free trade, is evil, when in reality, free trade+tolerance of others (not liking, simply tolerating), is the best thing that could happen to us.
In socialism, you only tolerate your fellow man, cause everyone's starving, and you're looking for ways to rip-off your government, to feed your family. this may not be what's written in your college textbooks, but it's only kinda happening right at this moment.. but i'm on 4c­han, what the fuck do i know.

>>277332
Don't strawman by pretending markets are any better than socialism. America only survives by flooding it's market with money every few years and even that's starting to fail.

>>277347
Yeah, and that's because the money isn't real and they can just print more of it whenever.

If money was linked to commodities, any commodity, we wouldn't be having these problems this bad.

>>277332
and here is your sign...

Que wiki page showing how people in cuba are better off than anyone in south america

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Cuba

>>277287
It takes two to tango? A man does not impregnate a woman, they get pregnant as a couple, it in neither person's fault, you dumb cunt. If a woman can choose to get an abortion, a man should be able to get a legal abortion - being treated as an anonymous sperm donor. She should have no right to the next 18 years of his life.
>>277317
Yep, and women keep bitching for more... feminism means equal rights, opportunities, and responsibilities... there are vastly more male feminisms than female feminisms, and most female "feminists" are actually misandrists. But it's okay, women are 88% more likely to severely injure their spouse than men are, so clearly men are as fault.

I would cite every statistic you've ever read that says otherwise, just read the study, they're only quoting half of it.

ITT: People blame the government for regulations and not the corporations.

Do you blame the parents for spanking the child? Or do you blame the child for writing on the wall. The reason regulations exist is because enough people complain about actions that corporartions or other entities take. For example, pollution. If the businesses kept their pollution levels down on their own, there wouldn't be a need for the EPA. If businesses listened and conferences with their employees and made the work place a nice place to work, we wouldn't need government protected collective bargaining or unions. ETC

If the kid wouldn't of drawn on the wall, he wouldn't of gotten spanked and be wasting time cleaning the wall off.

>>277350
Wouldn't help, people would just hoard the commodities to jack up the prices of them constantly (and in effect constantly jack up the prices of everything else).

>>277375
Yeah well we should just kill the child and borrow everyone else's children whenever we need them

>that feel when the original OWS was a good cause
>that feel when it was RAPED AND BEATEN AND RAPED AND CUMMED ON by uneducated hippies, communists, and other idiots
>that fucking feel

>>277385
wah???? um.... wah???

>>277326
You cannot give one person the choice of an out and not the other, this is obvious. Abortion should be illegal, or men should have the option of legal anonymity. This is feminism. Equal rights, opportunities, and responsibilities. No one has unilateral control of ANYTHING.

Cunt.

>>277394
get rid of corporations and go with socialism

>>277391
i feel you dude. i thought it was going to be something. the the far right started going on about leftists and hippies... then as a reaction to this all the hippies and left wingers turned up... and it went from get corporate money out of government and do something about the bail out, too, Get rid of corporations and give us all free money.

>>277419
I have a friend whose per suing a political career who's going to try to explain it to me... I hope i don't have to lose a friend... but I will.

>>277401
so no property rights... no free market... that is what i have been saying.

if you deregulate then women you not have any right to claim child support as the child is her property and is not anything to do with the man after the sex transaction. if the man want to help raise the child then he has to buy into the the property of the child

>>277434
Imagine.

You had a movement that could coincide with the tea party movement that wanted the destruction of crony capitalism and concentrated power in the rich. (Similar to how the TP wants the concentrated power in the gov't gone)

BUT THEN

All these hippies and communists and fuck faces showed up that saw an Anti Crowny Capitalist Movement as an Anti Capitalist Movement

>>277407
really? this is what it means? really?

>>277443
No, the cild is shared property, if you want to treat it as such. The woman has a number of weeks in which she can cancel the transaction, and the man has the same number of weeks in which to... decide not to bear ownership.

>>277347
i'm defending american imperialism, i'm defending free trade over forced sharing. and i'm not a money kind of guy man.

>>277452
Yeah, that's what I meant. It was sarcastic though, I hope you could read that much from it...

I hope you people understand just how wrong you are. If OWS is sustained, it would have a huge impact on American politics.

I'll give you a little example. Earlier this summer, the Keystone XL Pipeline was all but slated for approval. What is the Keystone Pipeline? It would take tar shales from Alberta, transport them across several thousand acres of farmland, before reaching refineries in Texas. Besides basically asking for a spill, it would release enough carbon into the atmosphere to kick climate change into overdrive. Around a thousand protesters were arrested in acts of civil disobedience and still nobody covered the story except for, like Democracy Now and Keith Olbermann. It looked like another case of oil trumping the voice of protesters.

Then OWS broke out. Last week, 10,000 protesters surrounded the White House. And finally things are starting to move: an investigation revealed that the main lobbyist for the Keystone Pipeline had close ties to Hilary Clinton, and the rosy jobs predictions were a total lie. It looks like the decision is up in the air.

tl;dr - OWS matters,

http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth/opinion/2011/11/2011119111716934927.html?utm_content=automatepl
us&utm_campaign=Trial6&utm_source=SocialFlow&utm_term=tweets&utm_medium=MasterAccoun
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>>277493
would it not be better analogy to say

we should take all the children and put them in a big nursery and all play the everyone's children

that's more what socialism is. why are we killing babies? there is no babies killed in socialism

>>277542
Thats not what the problem is. The problem is that OWS was once good, now its a bitch fest