whoah boy.

>>244980
>the right is an enterprise for anti-intellectuals.

YER A TUR'IST AN HATE MURRIKAH
NOW GIT BEFOR I GET A FIXIN TA shOOT Yah FER beiN A LIBERAL

>>244988
Prove me wrong.

Oh, and nice dubs.

Unfortunately, most of the retards around here don't even know who this man is.

Capitalist Jesus

>>245002
no one can, it's an exercise in futility. you won't be persuaded and so there is no point in trying.

the fact that you're a raving leftist only solidifies the certainty that talking to you is a waste of effort :/

Lacanianism is incoherent nonsense.

I don't even like them, but the Right does have an impressive propaganda machine. It knows just how to pluck all the strings of fear, hatred and resentment in people. They're not "intellectual" intellectual, but they know what they are doing.

>>245017
No, seriously, I want to know who on the right could fill this man's shoes.

Just name one person.

>>245030
Ron Paul. What do I win now?

>>245036
You're saying Ron Paul, a man who denies evolution, is on the same intellectual level as Slavoj?

>>245030
David Harvey, maybe. But that's more from a socialist perspective, he is nowhere near as philosophical as this man is.

>>245054
See my previous statement...

Here I'll link it for you in advance

>>245017

>>245062
So being a leftist and believing in evolution are mutually exclusive?

Come on.

>>245030
Roger Ailes, the Koch Brothers, David Frum, Karl Rove (at his top form), Charles Krauthhammer (sp?), Michael Savage. While leftist can only theorize the postmodern dream, the righties have been able to bring it to life: the right, not the left, have turned fantasy into reality.

>>245078
what is this,News Corp Roll Call?

...no, the brothers are there....

Kurt Godel.
Also evidence that religious people aren't retarded.

Pat Buchanan

>>245078
But none of those men are smart or intellectually honest. Slavoj will shit on socialism and praise capitalism much faster than David Frum or Charles Nazihammer will sway away from their neocon party line.

And Michael Savage? Seriously? You're putting a shock jock in the same league as one of the greatest modern western philosophers? Come on.

>>245099
You're getting warmer. He buys into Islamophobia too much, but at least he's honest about America's relationship with Israel.

>Implying America's philosophy/ sociology / "generic liberal arts" departmments aren't Marxist propaganda machines

I don't inherently hate liberal arts, but maybe the protestors would have a point if academia wasn't consuming themselves. Philosophy hasn't contributed anything to the world in 60 years, postmodernism is a sham.

>>245036
A complementary pen, although the station obliges us to hand them out to all the failed contestants.

>>245113
>He buys into Islamophobia too much
How so?

>>245095
That guy had seen a loophole in the USA allowing it to become a police state.
He's one of the most amazing logicians ever.
Sorry people, the constitution isn't perfect.

>>245113
>But none of those men are smart or intellectually honest.

HOLY FUCK YOU SMARMY LITTLE SHIT

You're not smart. You're not intellectually honest. You make this thread just to argue and prance around your fucking guru.

HE'S A MARXIST YOU FUCKING LAME!

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills...

>>245128
Oh nice, I'll use that to write a note to your sponsors letting them know their representatives are childish and would be communist marxists.

>>245078
>While leftist can only theorize the postmodern dream, the righties have been able to bring it to life

If we're going to play that game: David Axelrod.

goodbye.

>>245149
I'm sure they'll leap into action if a man who uses 'immature' and 'communist marxists' in the same sentence when he's made fun of on the internet tells them to.

Look at a 50 most brilliant atheists list.

See carl sagan in the list.

>>245127
Philosophy hasn't been given a chance to contribute anything to America. The right have turned America into a land governed by religious modalities and morals. We should be governing by ethics. If this was the case, your tune would be very different, in regards to what philosophy has or hasn't contributed to the past 50 years.

>>245170
Oh, I see. You're not even aware that your guru is a marxist. How disappointing :/

>mwf a liberal was subversive near me

Michael savage

The left has minds like Chomsky, Zizek and Krugman.

Meanwhile, the right has Glenn Beck.

>>245207
>Krugman
>intellectual

>>245078
>>While leftist can only theorize the postmodern dream, the righties have been able to bring it to life

This is so painfully true. Why can't the left into reality?

>>245189

>>245207
>>The left has minds like Chomsky, Zizek

Are you praising or insulting the left?

>>245189
he's my guru now? I'm a Marxist? No, I just pointed out that Ron Paul isn't anywhere near as smart as Zizek. Deal with it.

Zizek is an incomprehensible aspie with a coke problem. He does have some god-tier trolling, though.

>>245217
"The appeal to the intellectually insecure is also more important than it might seem. Because economics touches so much of life, everyone wants to have an opinion. Yet the kind of economics covered in the textbooks is a technical subject that many people find hard to follow. How reassuring, then, to be told that it is all irrelevant -- that all you really need to know are a few simple ideas! Quite a few supply-siders have created for themselves a wonderful alternative intellectual history in which John Maynard Keynes was a fraud, Paul Samuelson and even Milton Friedman are fools, and the true line of deep economic thought runs from Adam Smith through obscure turn-of-the-century Austrians straight to them."

>>245134
Still waiting to hear how Michael Scheuer is apparently an Islamophobe.

>>245245
Literally everytime I see him on TV, he's fear mongering about Islam and terrorism.

>>245228
Neither. Just showing the dichotomy between the two sides.

For what it's worth, Zizek doesn't like Chomsky. At all.

Every time Zizek says "Kant" it sounds like he's saying "cunt" and it makes me giggle.

Zizek puts rightfags in their place so fucking hard.

>>245259
Marxists hate anarchists in general. Hate is a strong word, maybe just disagree.

>>245253
He "fear mongers", as you put it, because U.S. foreign policy makes it enemies. He routinely says that the U.S. would cease to have to worry about the Islamic world being resentful towards us if we simply adopted a non-interventionist foreign policy. He claims that Islam is our enemy only insofar as they perceive our interventions to be religiously motivated.

He has never claimed that our problems with Islamic countries and organizations stems from nothing other than the fact that they're Islamic.

>>245244
I don't particularly care for the Austrian school's "economics is unknowable" idea, but Krugman has the opposite problem. He thinks that political economics is only a matter of knowledge, and with the right tools, we can engineer any type of economy to suit us. Real engineers know that you can't solve for every variable, ultimately physical tests are required before anything serious gets done. However, the technocrats in DC are unable to realize that all the equations in the world mean little if reality does not confirm your hypothesis. Krugman's idea that the bailouts didn't work because they weren't big enough, for example, reeks of desperation.

He's strange, and acts strung out (although I don't think he is) but he's actually really smart. The right paints socialists to be these evil monsters, but he actually seems like a pretty nice guy. And he's funny when he wants to be.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cW1zUh94uMY

Don't expect anyone here to watch all of it, but it's quite good.

His address to OWS was spot on. Unfortunately, no one there will take his advice.

>>245320
links

You people think Michael Savage is smart? da fuuuu...?
>Compared to you, he probably is...

>>245320
As a marxist, I can tell you that 95% of typical leftists can't even take in his philosophy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpePdLeDQQU

How about Donald Kagan... his work as a historian is top-notch and I know that he's also written a bunch of current political stuff, though I've never read any of that...

>>245357
Fuck marxism. Why do you pay lip service to an unworkable system which can demonstrate no success? Oh, you're a liberal I suppose you are capable of any old nonsense idea.

>>245339
I'm not a racist, like Mr. Savage, and racism is completely devoid of intellectualism.

>>245369
Donald Kagan used to be a liberal, but he's also a racist. He turned away from liberalism in the 60's when Cornell University instituted a black studies program.

Also, he's a part of the Project for the New American Century, the neo-con think tank that pretty much came up with idea of going to war with Iraq. So no. Sorry.

>>245332
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEUZNfOtPlE

>>245332
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=liBjJPiglUk

Edited to remove that fucking human mic.

>>245339
>You people
Yeah, that guy doesn't speak for conservatives in general broseph. Michael Savage is perceived as a retard even by the average Rush Limbaugh listener.

>>245395
>Not being a racial realist
>2011

>>245372
ad hominems ad hominems ad hominems

>>245407
>Subscribing to the same philosophy that shitheaps like David Duke subscribe to
>2011

>>245410
Why do you pay lip service to an unworkable system which can demonstrate no success?

Stop with the victim's persecution complex and answer.

>>245413
How you actually view the world.

>>245421
>Comparing humans to dogs

Well, I can see how YOU view the world.

>the right is an enterprise for anti-intellectuals.
>the left isnt
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Lets see him refute some good An-Caps/Anti-Statists/Libertarians and not only pick on the easy targets like republican/neocons/tea party

>>245372

Marxism isn't an economic system, you retard.

>>245426
You can't even admit this is how you see the world. There is NO difference, whatsoever, between me, an Irish american in California and an eskimo, a bushman sudanese and a japanese sumo wrestler.

Right? We're all perfectly equal?

>>245434
Of course it's not no one said that. It still has no, zero, negative real world successes. Why is that and why can't you simply admit it?

>>245435
On a biological level, sure.

>>245430
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1mdQBM73Olg

Here you go.

>>245450
What? So you literally believe that a sudanese bushman and a japanese man will have the same cranial size, muscle mass, body size, hand length, eyesight? We will all float the same? Our brain size is all exactly similar? Skull. density?

That we will ALL be able to digest the same foods, carry out the same tasks equally? Really?

>>245395

>Donald Kagan used to be a liberal, but he's also a racist. He turned away from liberalism in the 60's when Cornell University instituted a black studies program.

That these things happened at the same time doesn't necessarily say that the one lead to the other, though. And I somehow doubt that he'd be teaching at a place like Yale if it had been like that...

>Also, he's a part of the Project for the New American Century, the neo-con think tank that pretty much came up with idea of going to war with Iraq. So no. Sorry.

People make mistakes and things that sound perfect in theory can fail horribly in reality, and sometimes not through inherent failures of the theory, but because of the incompetence of those implementing it.

Just look how the Soviets screwed up Socialism, it was an -ism, but from its beginnings in the revolution to its end it was never particularly social...

You mean an incoherent drivelling troll?

That's most of the right's "intellectuals."

(I'm a Marxist, and I love Slovenia, but Zizek is just a fucking useless cunt who can't write.)

>>245435
>>245466
I have good news for you.

Racism and xenophobia is an identifiable mental disorder on the same spectrum as schizophrenia. And like schizophrenia, it's treatable.

Anti-psychotic meds have been proven to damper xenophobic and homophobic tendencies, particularly in males.

Ask your doctor if clozapine is right for you.

>>245450
>on a biological level

Nope.jpg

So much for the left being intellectual

>>245466

The variation of genotypes within one 'race' is much greater than that between races.

So yes, there will be variations between Caucasians, Bushmen and Asians, but a bushman and a caucasian might still be genetically closer than two whites...

>>245493
HA HA! I realize you can no longer refute my argument and so have chosen to attack my mental stability with insults. That's so liberal of you :)

Blacks brutally rape a texas man in a park : Those poor youth!
White guy says there are racial differences : Evil psychotic! Dope him up!

Oh libs :)

<--- Right-wingers made google

>>245475
I'm sorry, but I can't just chock up his membership in PNAC as a mistake, especially considering he's still a member of that fascist circle-jerk.

>>245482
>Who can't write

I take it you've never read this book? Pic related.

>>245504
You don't have an argument. Racial realism is bunk. But I am serious, several studies have shown xenophobia to be on the same spectrum as schizophrenia. Not something to be proud of, friend.

>>245503
>rehashes a long debunked argument from the 70s

So much for Liberals being intellectual

>right wing
>argument

pick one

>>245514
>dosn't know about google bombing

>>245518
Whatever you say, kiddo. I'm not pretending everyone is equal. If that marks me for 're-education' than I seriously question your sense of sanity.

>>245503
But the two whites will still have vastly more alleles linked to high IQ while the nigger will have shit for genes.

>>245518
>>Who can't write
>I take it you've never read this book? Pic related.

No, nor do I need to.

Zizek has been a populist Liberal and then a populist Marxist.

His texts are not readable for workers. His texts aren't readable unless you've read Lacan, Hegel, Marx and realise that Slovenians are the trolls of Europe and run four levels of irony simultaneously.

Zizek is not serving the ideologies he claims to serve. He is almost as bad a mystagogue as Lenin.

>>245503
source?

>>245504

So you think a redneck is any smarter than a Nigger? That dumb redneck like yourself aren't riding on the back of the few? And not only the few, but people that you - as a dumb redneck - wouldn't consider whites because their Jews? Greeks? Italians?

Niggers, spics, etc.. are every bit as capable as intelligence as any white man. It's not a racial thing. It's a poverty thing. And even more a feral thing driven by poverty, struggle and lack of education.

>Say not all races are equal
>RE-EDUCATION! YOU'RE SICK! SICK!!!!!!!!!!!

>>245541
Oh look at the anti-white! You hate white people, obviously. Why is that?

>>245525
Are you serious?

>>245541
Having met dumb rednecks who can barely make rent in their squalid trailer parks and niggers able to qualify for home loans in decent neighborhoods, the dumb rednecks are almost always more clever and industrious than all but the smartest niggers. A "smart" nigger is usually just one that is docile enough to work a government job.

>>245541
dumbest redneck>>dumbest nigger.
Undisprovable fact.

>>245541
>ignores studies done where SES is controlled for when measuring IQ

So much for liberals being intellectual

>>245540
The source is here:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12879450

o wait

If you want more, just refer to "Lewontin's Fallacy"

>>245554

Yeah, I'm traveling right now. From Texas, went through Louisiana and am now in Mississippi......about 50/50 Nigger and redneck and the Niggers, I tell you, are far smarter through these 3 states.

I really wish people would stop using the left-right dichotomy, the french revolution was such a long time ago!

>>245569
How nice for you, to travel through an area without stopping to meet anyone or even getting to know them, making broad sweeping statements which you have absolutely no way to make.

Classy, anon.

>>245569
Hey guys from my car I can tell that all these whites are WAY dumber than the blacks.

I've got my long-distance iq meter out so I know these facts. What? Who built the cities, roads, power poles? Oh, who knows probably god.

>A thread about liberal intellectuals vs. conservative intellectuals
>Devolves into race arguments
>mfw

>>245594
We are all the same. There are no differences whatsoever between any race on earth. Unlike dogs, cats, birds and every other animal on the planet.

>>245573
Not on /pol/. The average user is just as educated on politics and social issues as a college freshman at a community college. This board is a joke the majority of the time.

>>245594
>each side picking at the other's less intellectual beliefs

NOOOOOO!!! WHO WOULDA THUNK!

WHATS NEXT!? RELIGION BEING BROUGHT INTO THUS!?

>>245562

Lol at your stupidity. IQ doesn't measure "all things being equal"

If a human lives, say, their first 7-years of their lives not being mentally stimulated like, say, a spoiled white American would, then they will show signs of what a human really is which is an animal. It's called be feral. Which is pretty close to what half the world really is.

Furthermore, you show your ignorance by - even if they are mentally inferior - somehow thinking that it is worth mentioning. Do you have an inferiority complex, or something? If you have two kids and ones a retard, would you throw it in the retarded kids fucking face? Fucking retard.....

>>245562
http://robertlindsay.wordpress.com/2010/08/12/why-lewontins-fallacy-is-a-fallacy/

That theory seems to not be so hot nowaday.

>>245600
0/10

>>245615
We are the same! All humans are exactly the same. Of course! It can be no other way, do you need psychiatric drugs to feel better, citizen?

>>245591

If I were just in my car, dumbass, I would be just about 7-hours into my trip and not 10-days.

>I'm sorry, but I can't just chock up his membership in PNAC as a mistake, especially considering he's still a member of that fascist circle-jerk.

PNAC was actually dissolved in 2006...

As for the fascist circle jerk:
Zizek wants to throw his friend Sloterdijk in the gulag when the revolution comes, so moral implications really shouldn't figure into this discussion... OP's question was about intellectuals sharpness, not about morality

>>245357
You mean liberals?

>>245615
All Anglo-saxons have no differences from Chines, or Eskimos. All Africans are exactly the same as Pacific Islanders.

>>245612
>blog vs. scientific paper

MMM i dont think so tim.

Besides, the comments in the bottom pretty much destroyed the blogger's arguments.

"It is hard to believe that a Harvard prof can commit such a preposterous fallacy. By his transparently flawed reasoning, there can be no height difference between men and women because the height difference within the genders is much larger than the height difference betweeen the genders. Maybe we should bring about unisex Olympics.
There is no economic difference between Mexicans and Americans either. After all, the income and wealth differences within the two countries are much wider than the difference between per capita American and Mexican income and wealth.
While we are at it, a size difference between dogs and cat doesn’t exist either. After all, the smallest dog is smaller than the biggest cat.
Still, Lewontin has a point. Differences between groups, which always apply to averages or frequencies, should not blind us to the overlap that usually exists between groups, as the more primitive racists and chauvinists are wont to do."

>>245528
>>245542
The funny thing is that you can't even define "equal."

Insofar as race has a biological component, I am certainly happy to admit that genetic differences account for phenotypic differences.

The problem with racial realism is twofold. First, the idea that racial differences account for the type and magnitude of differences in access/achievement seen between racial groups is unsupported by any scientific evidence, and fails to take into account the multitude of other demonstrated, observed factors (see: http://thechoice.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/06/20/college-board-findings-on-minority-men/)

Secondly, I will concede that noticing physical differences between the races is in it and of itself not racist. Explaining said differences between groups by attributing them to something as demonstrably superficial as race certainly qualifies as racism – almost by definition.

Lastly, men like Mark Rank and Fredric Raines at the University of Washington have shown that black IQ scores are boosted four times as quickly as white IQ scores after four years of college. If genes were to blame for the supposed disparity in IQ, then this would not be possible. I could supply you with more science that shits all over the ridiculousness that is racial realism, but really, there's no point. It wouldn't persuade you.

>>245641
All Australian aboriginals are exactly the same as Aryans! All Indians are exactly the same as Swedes! Of course!

The multi-cult is multi!

MULTI CULT!
MULTI CULT!
MULTI CULT!
MULTI CULT!
ALL HAIL THE MULTI CULT!

>>245611
>doesnt know about family and adoption studies
>doesnt know about IQ for each race in each income brackets

So much for Liberals being intellectual.

>>245639
liberals, leftists, they are interchangeable terms. At least on /pol/.

>>245656
As a white American who has been to Europe and the Middle East, Antarctica and new Zealand....

No, you're not going to convince me that all races are equal. Nope, not at all, sorry. Go to Detroit and preach these lies.

There is ONE race, which causes problems world wide. One race which WILL NOT enter smoothly into a society. And you know which race that is :)

>>245679
The human race?

>>245669

U iz retard.

>>245669
>>doesnt know about family and adoption studies

That shit got debunked years ago. I can't believe people are thick enough to still use this argument.

>>245692
Nope, the global plague known as blacks.

>>245656
Does it account for the neanderthal hybridation of the whites?

>I sympathize with his analysis but capitalism is a religion because its based on trust and it cant provide any "Objective" value.
All systems are based in some form of trust or presupposed authority no matter what that's a fact of reality not an argument.
Also there is no objective value period, im not even going to go down that rabbit hole.

>People dont have a choice in Capitalism, Obama had to bailout those banks.
No, he could had let those firms fall and let the economy recover on its own and we would have been out of this recession sooner but because he artificially kept those firms up the recession will be longer and more jobs will be lost because of this in the long run.

I cant believe he just looks at things at face value and doesn't think about the long term effects, but hey he is a "left" intellectual so that would be too much to ask i guess.

>>245703

I'm sure you probably hear this often but you are a vile man, a crappy troll and the Truth is not in you.

>>245705
wanted to quote
>>245647
sorry.

Any observable difference in intelligence between the races is a direct result of environmental factors. Gene flow is not to blame.

Attributing a perceived lack of intelligence to arbitrary genetic inheritance is morally reprehensible and intellectually bankrupt.

Also, this thread is about Slavoj Zizek and other modern philosophers, right or left. Fuck off with your racial realism.

>>245717
I'm not nearly as bad, vile and vicious as most of the blacks on the planet. Lol, but whatever. You're the same as an Aryan! The same as an Eskimo. You're the same as me! There is no difference!

Everything I have seen still leaves a >4% gap between whites and blacks in IQ tests when as many factors as possible have been accounted for.

>>245720
>Fuck off with your racial realism.

NO U STUPID LIBFAG, THE TRUUF MUST B REVEALED

>>245656
Really, because I've seen studies where the black IQ gap doesnt change much at all actually (ib4 flynn effect).

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289606000778

Essentially, the tests and items that people did better on werent because of increases in IQ, but of familiarity with the test.

>>245720
It's well known that intelligence is largely heritable. It's not well known if it matches up with "races."

Does anyone else find it hilarious that the same dolts that believe whites are genetically superior to blacks are the same slackjawed dumbfucks that don't believe in evolution?

Gotta love the right.

>>245698
>debunked


Nope.jpg

Just because you dont like it doesnt mean its biased or w.e bullshit you want to believe.

"EERRR WELL>......FAMILISY STUDIEZ DONT CONTROL FOREEVVVERYTYING!"

>>245754
Funny because it's not remotely true?

>>245754
It's amazing that you believe in evolution and cannot admit that species of human evolved separately and to different levels.

>>245754
>that don't believe in evolution?

At least they got something right.

>>245746
Do you have a link to a free PDF of the actual study? I want to see how they creates their test banks. I do work for test construction/psychometrics. An ideal IQ test (or any aptitude test) isn't "teachable," we've known this for 80 years. Tests improve literally every year.

The intrinsic flaws with IQ testing and the hereditarian claims regarding intelligence are laid bare in this book.

Not that any of you idiots have read or it will read it.

>>245752
Well, its pretty much accepted that IQ is LARGELY heritable.

Its also shown that there is an IQ disparity between the races.

If you combine these two together, it wouldnt be too big of a stretch to believe these disparities are genetic.

>believe in evolution
>all types of humans are the same

>>245782
Nice try.

>>245784
Then prove to me that dolphins are genetically superior to whales.

Go ahead. I'll wait.

>>245790

>>245784
They are you racist white trash! Everyone is the same, it's your fault blacks are impoverished! You're sick and vile!

>>245783
White are genetically more caring, that empathy toward the children allow for a greater increase of the potential intelligence.
See: testosterone level.
Just throwing an idea.

>>245791
What? Fuck off. You're the same as an African. Same as a pacific Islander evolution has achieved no differences in humans.

>>245783
I said intelligence, not IQ. There are people that doubt validity of various IQ measurements, that intelligence can be measured on a single metric, or even that "intelligence" is a valid concept.

>>245800
>racist
>white trash

Only whites can be racists....

I'd be 100% okay with racial realism if it were exclusively about "racial differences" and didn't have so much "racial superiority" bullshit attached.

>evolutions is 100% correct
>there are no evolutionary differences in humans

ZIZEK IS A PERVERT

I SAW HIS GUIDE TO MOVIES

>>245816
Except you're saying all this in English and not in Zulu or something :/

>>245782
Nice try.

Not that an idiot such as yourself has read it or will read it.

How bout this one for a brain buster? What's more popular? Intelligence or athletics? That's a no brainer, is it not? And who's the most athletic? Niggers, right? Then who is superior to who?

>>245836
>not a racist
Uh-huh welcome to your racial superiority attempts.

Incidentally, it is now accepted as scientific fact that there has been evolutionary divergence in human brains geographically in the last 100 years. The metrics, I believe, have been size, proportions, mass. Not sure how such a study could be done, accounting for health, lifestyle, etc, but it's accepted.

>>245827
I hardly see how that's relevant at all.

>>245836
Women want money.
Intellignece give more money than physical prowess.
Ergo asian are superior, and black are the worst.

>>245841

Well, athletics is one thing that can be proven factually, is it not? And don't Niggers dominate?

>>245835
Debunked, double-debunked, triple-debunked. Piles of personal attacks and out of context quotes. Well known. Gould inserted his own personal politics into the debate, then accused the writers of The Bell Curve of being motivated by politics.

>>245844
Whites are the ones DOING the research. Whites went to the moon, harnessed electricity, created the internet, invented computers.

Can't you see? Without the advancements of white people and OUR civilization we couldn't even have this conversation. That is MY proof of superiority.

>>245825
You should watch his explanation of Radiohead's video for "Karma Police." Shit is lulzy.

>>245809
Please, we all know that these doubts are only from egalitarian types who cant handle the studies down on IQ on different groups of people. Instead of offering counter evidence (because they cant), they opt to try and destroy the validity of the concept itself.

Unfortunatley, most psychometricians can see that this ploy is retarded.

>>245858
Proof you haven't read it.

>>245861
Lewontin's fallacy part 2, now understanding a little more.
If used for economy:
"Income differences by race are inconsequential because there is more variation within a given racial group than between any two racial groups."
Isn't it obvious it's incorrect?

>>245860

All those things were invented by socialists and socialists could give a fuck about race.......how you like that piggy back ride, dumb redneck? Glad you being the same color as someone that actually contributed to society give you that ONE thing that can make you feel good about yourself.

>>245541
>Men are taller than women
>HURR SO YOU THINK ALL MEN ARE TALLER THAN ALL WOMEN?!??1

>>245879
WHAT. THE. FUCK.

Whites did those things. Not asians or eskimos or blacks or indians.

You're stupid.

>>245869
After carefully reading the book, I charge Gould with several counts of scholarly malfeasance. First, he omits mention of remarkable new discoveries made from Magnetic Resonance Imaging (MRI) which show that brain-size and IQ correlate about 0.40. These results are as replicable as one will find in the social and behavioral sciences and utterly destroy many of Gould's arguments. Second, despite published refutations, Gould repeats verbatim his defamations of character against long deceased individuals. Third, Gould fails to respond to the numerous empirical studies that show a consistent pattern of race differences in IQ, brain size, crime, and other factors that have appeared since his first edition went to press.

>>245879
Look at you, racist! I'm a redneck because I'm white? You fucking ungrateful shit. You have no idea what I have done in my life, where I am from.

But you WILL racially attack me as a redneck? You're JUST as racist as I am, glad you finally admitted it.

>>245888

White socialists.....your dumb, hick redneck ass hates them, too, right? Or are you like Fox news and are going to try and take credit for Steve Jobs after he died even though he hated you fucks?

>>245869
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mismeasure_of_Man#Criticism

>I'm a liberal
>Evolution is correct fuck faith
>I have faith that evolution has no affect
>On types of humans at all
>Somehow

>>245816
The generally liberal opposition to racial realism are the ones who make it that way. Yes, there are nazis and klansmen and white nationalists who are hugely invested in there being intrinsic racial differences at a genetic level, particularly genetic differences that affect intelligence. These people are loud, dumb and obnoxious, and they do exist. BUT there are a good number of people who make the case for differences without any of this stuff and colored with the same brush. Just look at the fury directed at James Watson, a man who has no investment in proving any race superior to any other, and an eminent scientist in genetics, when he claimed there was probably inherent differences in intelligence.

>>245900
Look who is the racist now :)

Let it all out!

>>245869
I've read The Bell Curve, The Mismeasure of Man, the second updated edition of The Bell Curve, and pretty much every shitty article and letter to the editor Gould has written in his life on the subject.

Even a layman can tell that Gould was a man with a vendetta.

>>245903
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve#Criticisms

>>245894

Bitch, I know that if you're using racial inferiority that
1) You're doing to feel good about yourself which means you have done nothing - yourself - in your life to feel good about.
2) You have nothing better to do, so that time wouldn't be otherwise filled with "contributions" lol

>>245860
Technological advancement is valuable but I do not believe it is necessarily a valid metric for determining whether or not one race is superior to another. Being a more advanced or intelligent civilization does not inherently make you a better civilization.
>>245888
Actually, whites commandeered a pretty good amount of technological breakthroughs from the East Asians.

Goddamit /pol/

How the fuck did a Slavoj Zizek thread turn into a fucking racial realism thread?

Racial Realists need some education.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LvljvnvBuFU

>>245910
Watson did not work in evolutionary biology at all, nor was he an anthropologist or a behaviorist, he specifically was a molecular biologist. He's been on the record making ignorant and bigoted statements regarding race. And I say this as someone who dispassionately does believe that there is an intelligence gap between "races" (such as they are)

>>245920
Right! Bitch. Redneck. Dumb. Smelly.

I haven't insulted you once. I'm clearly a superior debater than you are. Meanwhile, as SOON as I show any HINT of racial pride you degenerate to baseless personal attacks on my race. Fuck you, mud.

Stop speaking my language to denigrate me, you fucking subhuman.

People make such a big deal out of such small matters.

>>245936
Meh. Typical libs saying evolution is real but evolution between humans is not. You know. Crazy college jewish propaganda.

>>245955

It's not your language anymore than it is his, nor are you anymore of a human. Get over yourself little man.

>>245970
Fuck off, it's the English language lol. you guys are insane and ungrateful as fuck.

>hate whitey
>use his language
>countries
>and technological advancements
>they belong to all humans

>>245959
>HURR BLAME LIBERALS

So much for right wing intellectualism.

>>245981
Wat?. It is liberals arguing this shit. Are you drunk?

>>245959
No one is questioning whether or not evolution exists between humans. That's just silly.

They are questioning if those evolutionary differences condones racism, or if those evolutionary differences warrants basing matters of public policy on genetic inheritance, or if those evolutionary differences makes one group morally superior to the other. Are whales morally superior to dolphins? Is a tabby cat morally superior to a tiger?

>>246008
You're wrong, because people even trying to do these experiments are assailed, and more frequently self-censor and never do it in the first place.

>>245981
Why do liberals love extrapolating from samples of one so much? Is a basic, high school level comprehension of statistics a liberal's worst nightmare or something?

>>246008
I'm not arguing morality at all. I'm simply saying that everyone on the planet is using white language, white technology, white nations.

So, from my perspective it's fairly easy to spot the winners and the ones who are benefiting from that. I mean, all of Africa, Asia is trying as hard as it can to be Western, lol.

What pisses me off is these muds who learn my language, use our technology to call me a redneck. What the fuck kind of ungrateful shit is that? I can't insult them in their own language because no one cares what that language even is :/

>>245959

So conservatives don't believe in evolution, but believe in evolution between humans so long as it condones hate? Sounds legit to me.

>>245979
>Wowww, this guy thinks he represents white people.

You are a tool of the what's degree. Get over yourself.

>>246008
>They are questioning if those evolutionary differences condones racism, or if those evolutionary differences warrants basing matters of public policy on genetic inheritance, or if those evolutionary differences makes one group morally superior to the other.
Oh, bullshit. The only thing the people advocating racial differences in intelligence want is an end to policies that assumed no inheritable differences, like affirmative action. Liberals have the policies in face that favor their position, yet they act as though the racists are the activists.

>>246036
I represent myself, do you have a problem with that, mongrel subhuman? Stop speaking my language, you un-evolved shit skin.

>>245955

9/10

>>246036
No one is entitled to the white's race advancement you know.

>>246047
Go gookity gook or Chunga bunga or whatever your shit tier racial ancestors did before we came and civilized their useless mongrel asses.

>>246024
Muslims are responsible for modern algebra, which you use either directly or indirectly on a daily basis. The music you listen to and enjoy was more than likely directly influenced by polyrhythms from Africa. So on and so forth.

>>246060
And today it is STILL an ancient fail cult with no place in the modern age.

>>246057

>mfw that's what English sounded like when I only knew Swahili.

>>246047
>Stop speaking my language, you un-evolved shit skin

Clever. What are you going to call me next, a monkey? Why don't you go to bed before you hurt yourself thinking too hard. Your armchair Neo-nazism isn't impressing anyone.

Your language .... pfft!

>>246060
Arab number are indian bro.

>>245926
>>246008
But there are racial differences. And we do base policy on it. Why dont you tell me why we help blacks along in academia if not because theyre black and different and need help?

>>246041
>The only thing the people advocating racial differences in intelligence want is an end to policies that assumed no inheritable differences, like affirmative action.

Absolute bullshit as well. Assholes like David Duke want far more than just an end to affirmative action.

>>246070
Whatever, I did NOT fire the first racial salvo in this thread. So fuck you all. I'm white, I'm better, smarter, more capable, more likable, more likely to be hired, more likely to be promoted. MY ancestors carved western civilization out of nothing while yours stayed wherever the fuck, doing nothing important.

Enjoy your day, wearing t-shirts and tennis shoes. Enjoy your day filled with white improvements.

>>246060
Indo european language from africa?
>How can someone be that dumb?

>>246075

We help everyone along in education, even more so if they're poor. Blacks have to work for their accolades and success just like white people, arguably harder because everyone expects them to fail.

>>246075
Because the system is broken.

I don't remember anyone here advocating affirmative action.

>>246091
>Implying the people you're arguing with aren't all white
>Implying I'm not 100% pure Western European

>Move to white nation
>To hate on whitey
>It's better here
>Except for all these stuck up white trash rednecks

>>246101
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH

Oh boy, so it's even WHITE PEOPLE'S fault that everyone expects little niglets to fail? Really? W=Why can blacks take NO responsibility?

>>246091
>I'm better, smarter, more capable, more likable

Yeah, if you say so. Have fun taking credit for the achievements of people you're most likely not even remotely related to.

Also, you might want to cover up. Your inferiority complex is showing.

>>246114

I didn't say it was white people's fault. I said that, arguably, they have to work harder than white people for the same success and recognition. Do you deny this? I'd love to hear your reasoning on the matter, provided you can attempt to be civil and exercise some of that superior intellect of yours.

>>246128
Okay. Brace yourself. Whites are more culturally evolved. If we took all black children out of black homes and raised them in white homes around whites they would have an equal chance possibly of becoming comparable to a white adult.

>>246136
Not really. Look the Minnesota Transracial Adoption study.

>>246147
I'm not particularly interested, but if even condition does not affect success then I will simply say blacks are not as evolved as whites. Or, if everyone wants, we can just say they evolved 'differently' than whites did.

>>246156
But I am sick of pretending there are no differences. It's not working :/

>>246101
Not all blacks are poor you fucking bigot. Blacks exist in all levels of economic strata, and in all levels they perform worse than all other races. Why?

>>246156
Yep, they're "different" all right.

>>246166

So just admit that every Nigger can whip your, ass, make a million dollars playing what comes easy to them, has a bigger dick and when white bitch goes black they ain't ever going back, then?

>>246186
Well it is a polite way to say what we all know to be true. The trouble is that African birth rates are not slowing while European birthrates are in free fall.

>>246183
>Not all blacks are poor you fucking bigot. Blacks exist in all levels of economic strata, and in all levels they perform worse than all other races. Why?

I didn't say nor imply that all blacks were poor. I said,

>We help everyone along in education, even more so if they're poor

in which to apply that no, blacks are not the only ones who get helped along. That superior intelligence and capability not doing much for your reading comprehension?

>see post about Zizek
>"Oh, maybe /pol/ will have an interesting discussion for once
>nothing but ad hominem attacks, racism and facile interpretations of Marxism from both sides

>soniamdissapoint.jpg

>>246192
Look, you're obviously black. It's hilarious that the 'muh dick' arguemnt came into this. Go fix your fucking own people and stop bitching about mine.

Don't you think all whites would fucking rejoice the day blacks became good citizens????????

>>246192
Actually every time I have fought a black I have won. Five times in my life?

>>246208

Stop watching football and basketball and being proud when we bring home the gold from the Olympics, then, honky. Also, tell Glen Beck to stop claiming Martin Luther King Jr......

Reminds me of this piece by Hayek


http://www.fee.org/media/intellectuals-and-socialism/

>>246221
Right, right. Tomorrow, I can go find and bang a black woman. No one would want to, but I could. You're always going to be a nigger, though. Wanting our women and hating us for what we made :/

You, here in America, live far far better with whites than you would in Africa.

>>246192
Blacks can't fight to save their life, I literally can beat them 2 against 1. (unless they are trained fighter of course)
Why? Because they lack creativity in a fight. Too straightforward.

This thread has gone full retard. Good night and God bless.

>>246241

Yeah, you're right. They only dominate boxing and the UFC, but keep exampling your imaginary street fights......

>>246236
Maybe I'll go do this :)

I'm going to go and seduce black women for a bit. See what all the fuss is about. I wonder if she will let me put on a collar and call me master? Kinky...

>>246221
>implying I even watch sport or feel any pride in it.
people's opiate.

>>246256
Because whites fled boxing. Also, UFC domination?

[Citation Needed]

"critical thinking" is by definition anti-intellectual

this thread is proof that with time and patience, stormfags can become just as silly and delusional as liberals

Hey guys, check out this totally crazy news story I posted out of its novelty!

>>246199
Why do blacks get more help and still fail? And remember, the less convoluted your answer, the better.

>>246236

Nah, we don't want your white woman. We just getting revenge on you honkies for all them slave masters raping that white blood into us.

And aren't you Americans European? You faggots always seem to forget that. OOhhhhhh, but you better than them white boys, too? Lmfao.

>>246271
Meh. Just reacting to someone calling me a redneck a bit ago. Mostly trolling at this point. I really am going to start flirting with black women, though.

I want my little submissive nigger house slave :)

>>246279
lol okay dude

You know where rape and slavery are still the most common? Africa, homey. Africa. Go talk that shit somewhere else. And, in the meantime, enjoy Whitey's world!

>>246274
Ocham razor
If nigger stupidity is the most obvious cause of the black failure, it stand a good chance to be true.

>>246285

That's because you white folks spread that Christianity all across Africa--and they really be believing that shit!

It's not a black thing, brother. It's a backwards religious thing. Like them southern Baptist slave masters raping slaves and their woman and telling them they couldn't vote and shit.

>>246298
Rape is a christian thing?
Cor blimey, then no black muslim or atheist can be rapist then surely...
>oh wait

>>246298
Oh, yeah that's funny. I'm even more knowledgeable about Africa then you are. No surprise there. Don't worry, when I get my little nubian princess in my bed, I'm going to do the nastiest things. I'll send you some pics if you want to fap?

>>246271

>implying that this country isn't fucked up because stormfags are delusional and that libfags aren't merely perceived as delusional by stormfags because they're SO delusional.

Also, why the fuck am I saying stormfags? Fucking delusional, retards.