because

private insurance lobbyists

Because we dont like to wait for 3 months to get into the ER room.

>>2147521
>doesn't know how socialized medicine works

because i want a free market

>>2147568
MUH FREE MARKET

Because private is better.

Also the rest of the civilized world does not have socialised medicine. In fact, the best system by far currently is Singapore's, which is not socialised.

Americans love guns, wars and murder.

Not human welfare.

>Why doesn't america have socialized medicine?

Um...but we do.

>>2147651
Obamacare =/= socialized medicine

It's a barbeque.

Because you shouldn't have to pay for insurance inless you want it. You can get reasonable insurance for 35 dollars a month and america is amongst the highest if not the highest cancer survival rates in the world.

>>2147657
Murder saves lives, welfare destroys lives.

American education.

>>2147659
>Obamacare
>Not socialism
dohoho

>>2147657
>mad because you are exactly what he stated
>someone who loves guns, wars, and murder

>>2147651
Is that with the insurance company?

>>2147587
>Because private is better.
assuming you ignore actually data.
>Also the rest of the civilized world does not have socialised medicine.
The parts that matter do.

> In fact, the best system by far currently is Singapore's, which is not socialised.
you seem to have spelled france wrong.

>>2147670
>Implying i said that
>Implying socialism is inherently bad

>>2147666
>you can get reasonable insurance for 35 dollars
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

no, nigger, no you can't.

>>2147659

I wasn't refering to the obamacare clusterfuck.

>>2147685
Look up top cancer survival rates by country thats how you really rank a health care system

>>2147712
>singapore
>Not a third world country

>butthurt Canadians complaining about not being as awesome as their big American brother

>>2147712
no it isnt. cancer the only way people die. fuck its not even the main way people die.

>ITT

>>2147739
you're on the way out and you've always been our toilet. and we burned down your White House and your ignorance and pompousness in saying that you "won" the War of 1812, is sickening. Try and annex us and we whoop your asses.

Because the eurozone is collapsing in debt due in part to socialized medicine. the NHS is next.

America is too large and it would be inefficient.

Instead each state or perhaps county should be required to provide health care for its district or area or whatever..

It should be accomplished on a local scale. Remember, France is roughly the size of Texas.

hey Bolsheviks, how come your heads of state come to America for their own healthcare when it's needed the most?

In my State we have government run clinics, with public free health screenings and inexpensive testing and vaccinations. And government provided insurance for the old, disabled, poor, and children.

How is this not socialised medicine?

Because the insurance industry and pharmaceutical companies have a lot of money and have bought our elected officials in order to stop that from ever happening as they have a lot to lose.

>>2147685
>assuming you ignore actually [sic] data
Not at all, pic related.
>The parts that matter do.
How convenient. Let me guess the parts that "matter" are ones that support your ridiculous socialist claims.

>You seem to have spelled France wrong
haha, nope. France spends more than double what Singapore spends, and only sees slightly better results for it. That is in no way a better system.

>>2147755
>kidnapped sailors
>go to war with country doing thats kidnapping
>beat their asses make them leave and stop kidnaping
>hurr we won cuz we burnt down the presidents house
In short your retarded

>>2147758
France health system also is in a deep shit.

>>2147731
You think Singapore is a third world country?

You need to update your country assessments. They're about 20 years out of date.

>>2147765
if you're filthy rich, america has usually better healthcare

however, for the vast majority of people, america is inferior

>>2147510

> rest of the world civilized
> no free speech
> therefore no free press
> no free press or speech
> civilized

> mfw

>>2147801
>and only sees slightly better results for it.
yeah if you only look at 2 specific results. how about the rest of them?

>>2147755
>and we burned down your White House and your ignorance and pompousness in saying that you "won" the War of 1812

You TRIED to burn the whole city (which wasn't much, D.C. was a pathetic backwater swamp at the time), and intended to take the President's wife as a trophy and parade her naked through the London as a war prize. Didn't quite work out there did it?

>>2147863
I looked at all results. I was considering the WHO assessment of each country's healthcare. France comes first, spending more than double Singapore. Singapore comes 6th, spending less than all other countries in the top 30.

That system is far and away the best going. It gives top-quality care and leaves a minuscule bill at the end.

>>2147869
it used to be pink and you had to repaint it white. because we burned it down. thanks for trying.e

>>2147697
>u-s-healthcare.com/?id=275534067&creativeid=7209454087
>$29

>>2147820
>France health system also is in a deep shit.
this has nothing to do with the actual system and everything to do with a drastic increase in darkies coming to leech off of it. they not having control of their own immigration policy has been fucking them for the last decade. before that they had the cheapest/best health care in the world. it's why all the darkies flooded them.

>>2147869
>through the streets of London

>>2147876
You burnt down that presidents house thats not even the capitol building and you left and stopped kidnapping sailors which you know is the entire reason for the war.

>>2147858
What? Nowhere else in the world has rules regarding freedom of speech and freedom of the press excpet the US? Huh? I guess now i know you are so keen to export 'freedumb'...

>>2147879

http://healthinsurance.about.com/od/healthinsurancebasics/a/cost_of_health_insurance.htm

On average, the annual premium was $2,985 for a single person and $6,328 for a family.

That's nearly 250 a month for a single person.

>HEALTHCARE ONLY 30$ A MONTH

WHAT ARE POEPLE COMPLAINING ABOUT?

>>2147903
ok that's cool. i guess we didn't go far enough? and your soldiers were encroaching on our lands and waters and wanted to annex Upper Canada so would you just accept your loss? Your loss in Vietnam? Your loss in Korea? Your losses in Iraq and Afghanistan? You all suck ass

>>2147869
lolwut

And nobody wants to see your fat american women naked.

>>2147911

If it cost $30 a month, no one would have any right to complain. Especially libertards. They would have no right to complain at all.

>>2147801

Do you understand how Singapore's health system works?

That people still get money from the government which is put into a high interest savings account(which they cant spend on anything but healthcare, they can however top this money up)
certain medical procedures or incidents (for example a heart attack or a car accident) are classed as a catastrophic healthcare requirement and the government pays for that outright.

The only difference between Singapore and a true socialised medical service is that in Singapore the government does not provide the service
they however still pay for it

Only an idiot would use the Singapore healthcare system as a reason socialised medicine sucks

>>2147858
>the US is more civilized because they have a free press
>ranked 47th in press freedom index

>>2147908

Every country that offers socialized medicine bans free speech and therefore has no free press.

Just an observation.

>>2147932
Yes, I know there is a lot of government involvement in Singapore healthcare. I was simply using it as an example of a system which is not socialised, and is actually the best. There is a market in Singapore, and that's why it has ended up so cheap and high quality. It could be argued that Singapore is more private than the US, so if we are arguing for privatised healthcare, Singapore would be the go-to best example.

>>2147944
oh look making things up and pulling them out of your ass is an 'observation' now...

>>2147521
You'd prefer to not have the ability to go to the ER, right?

But seriously, I could go to my accident and emergency (that's English for "emergency room") department right now. If I had a serious ailment, I could get a free ambulance there and be treated immediately.

If you went there with your mild case of rectal tenderness, you're right that you'd have to wait – but that's called a triage system. Somebody with a heart attack or stroke is obviously going to be seen and treated before someone with a sore bottom.

You could also choose to make an appointment with the general practitioner (family/local doctor) you've registered with, who'd probably see you on Monday. He or she would likely give you a prescription for your rectal tenderness. If you live in Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland, you'd even get the medicine for free.

God save the NHS!

>>2147932
>The only difference between Singapore and a true socialised medical service is that in Singapore the government does not provide the service
>they however still pay for it

thats genious!

>>2147755
"canada" didnt even exist until 1980, when it FINALLY obtained its independence from Great Britain

all those things you're claiming are things the BRITISH did

nice try though

>>2147938

Haha, what are these requirements? I find it odd complete free speech is apparently weighted as a negative for a free press. Just a quick link to how they determine these scores is needed.

>>2147914

>Your loss in Vietnam?

Didn't lose. We got bored. Also, we could have demolished them but chose not to in order to protect civilian life.

>Your loss in Korea?

Didn't really lose. We didn't win, but we held our ground which was our goal to begin with. We achieved our mission of holding the 38th parallel.

>Your losses in Iraq and Afghanistan?

Not losing. We have a 40:1 kill:death ratio. The problem is that we are trying to keep it stable. It's not that we can't kill everyone there; we don't WANT to.

Americans are global badasses. The fact that we don't kill everyone is only a sign that we're nice guys, not that we "suck ass".

>>2147964

> i do not pay right now so it is free

Are you serious?

>>2147972
> complete free speech
>america

this is a police state

>>2147883
No it's not.
It's old people. White old people.

>>2147765
>Head of State
The Queen doesn't go to the rebel colonies of America for her healthcare.

>Head of Gubmint
These gentlemen do use the NHS – yes, even Cameron.

>>2147984

Absolutely, but speech is not banned.

>>2147969
would you just get rid of your butthurt jealousy of us? That was 1982, actually, and we became a country in 1867, numbnuts. all that that act of 1982 did, was establish our Rights in a law. It didn't create any more autonomy.

>>2147858

We're talking about public healthcare, and this faggot brings up the lack of free speech as if both we related and not coincidental at best. I knew libertardians were intellectually bankrupt, but this much? Have fun ruining yourself for a trip to the ER.

>muh republic
>we so speshul

>>2147992
> but speech is not banned.
yes it is

people go to jail for hurting feelings all the time

>>2147993
happy 30th birthday, Canada

you can play with the big boys when you're at least 200

>>2148008

The op claimed the rest of the world was civilized. I pointed out that is clearly false as there is no free speech and thereby no free press.

>>2148011

Not in America. Hate speech, racism, holocaust denial, etc are not banned in America.

>>2148011

No they don't. The only time they do is when an idiot judge hears a case about "cyberbullying" and thinks it is a real problem.

That will change once people who know how the Internet works are in charge.

>>2147944
well if we are counting civilians i guess you still get smoke by the 9/11 hijackers, what were they 4,000 for 12 or something?

Seiously you guys tried to destroy Vietnam. You dropped every bomb you had trying to get them to quit, and it didn't work. Same shit in Afghanistan and Iraq. And when you put that up next to the clusterfucks of Mogadishu, Bay of pigs etc, US army looks like a joke. You guys haven't won a war by yourself since maybe Mexico.

Sucks to spend that much on something and not have it work properly eh?

>>2148011
This.
>Defamation of character suits. Defamation of Character suits everywhere.
Since when was it an offence to call someone a cunt and get sued for it?

>>2147952

But no

Singapore is an example of mixing the public and private sector but its not an example of the success of the private sector.
That money the government provides to its citizens and the "catastrophic" treatments it pays for does not come from nowhere, it comes from taxes.
The government is also heavily involved with the medical private sector stopping people from charging to much for drugs/treatment/etc to make sure that its citizens can get the best bang for their buck
Singapore is closer to socialised medicine then it is to private

And also in regards to costs the UK NHS is cheaper then the US healthcare system and we also are (according to the WHO) Healthier people. The only reason why we have issues with funding is because when the governments broke the country still needs healthcare. In the US when a person cant afford their insurance well healthcare is not really important is it?

>>2148020
oh shut the fuck up. you dont even live here. im trying to tell you as a citizen HERE, what things actually are, and instead of giving credit where it's due, for our wins, or our better healthcare system, you spout the same broken record shit. as if AmurriKKKans know fuck all about anything. and your old ass 300 year old stubborn as fuck piece of shit is hated by the entire world. funny how you all put OUR fucking flag on your bags when you travel. assholes

>>2147510
>appeal to common practice
le sigh.

>>2148047
>goes back to comparing UK and US
Singapore is more private than us and sees better results. It is the most marketised country full stop, and has the best system because of this.

>>2147972
it's not weighed as a negative. also we dont have complete free speech anymore. our press is horribly gimped by the government. that's why the press ranked us so low, because its not actually free.

>>2148042

Those cases are tried for damages. Theft... sort of.

>>2148064
>Singapore is more private than us
but their government pays for everyones stuff. thats not really private.

>>2148083
No it doesn't. The people are expected to pay for every procedure they have. Depending on income, the government may only cover a small amount of your operation.

>>2148065

I would like to see a link clarifying how they rank the presses of the world.

>>2148038

Confirmed for troll.

The US army is by far the strongest in the world. By far. We could crush anyone else in any arena. The problem is that we don't want collateral damage and our current enemies don't care.

The US army doesn't kill civilians. Occasionally they get caught in a crossfire. That's horrible, but doesn't change the fact that the vast majority of civilian kills come from Al Qaeda.

Al Qaeda is probably misspelled. Autocorrect is being a douche.

>>2148064

How is it more private if the government provides the money
How is it more private if the government intervenes to keep costs low
How is it more private if the government pays outright for emergency medical treatment
Explain this to me please

>>2147983
It's free at the point of use. If you don't earn enough to contribute to national insurance, it is entirely free.

>>2147992
It's not banned, it's just not really protected or respected.

Americans all seem to hate each other and have no respect for anything, especially themselves.

>>2148025
You aren't the only country with free speech and a free press – in fact, most press is so propagandised and sensationalised in America that facts and fairness are blared out.

The Republic of Ireland, to take one example, outranks the US in press freedom, economic freedom and democracy.

inb4 Americans claiming they're Irish, like Barack O'Bama.

>>2147510
I may be an anarchist, but my mind is blowing on it's own over the fact that we in the US have socialized police, military, firefighters, and lots of other stupid shit; but no fucking healthcare. what the fuck, republicans?

>>2148090
yes but the government provides the money that people use to pay for treatment

>>2148091
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Press_Freedom_Index

I'll be waiting for your response as to how the press has erroneously ranked their own freedom.

>>2148092
Sgt. Robert Bales who cries about four tours by killing 18 civilians and chopping off their fingers as souvenirs? Other than WWI and WWII, which you all joined at the last second because of a false-flag operation which you all just LOVE killing your own people (9/11), then you lost everything else. trying to tell people to not be commies. ya good luck

>>2148108
>tfw insurance lobbies are successfully keeping either party from adopting proper healthcare reform

>>2148090
but it does pay for their stuff. yes it doesnt pay for every little thing but it pays for every big thing. you know, the shit that actually screws over most americans when it comes to health care.

Private insurance lobbyists
Fear of a nanny state
Fear of socialism
Fear of communism
The mindset that private insurance is better despite the fact that it's more expensive due to overhead.

>>2148092
Yeah that's what the experts say... It has nothing to do with having spent as buttload of cash getting ready to wage ww2 of the future which never happened. If your army was so feared, why did goat hearders and camel jockeys line up to fight against it. The US is completely unequipped to deal with the evolution of technology used by non-state actor and likewise the shifting capability of state based actors.

You guys lost the meta noobs...

>>2148098
Because the government does not provide much healthcare, and there is a freer market than any other first world country.

>>2148137
AmurriKKKans would all just love to take a rifle and shoot everybody. end of thread.

>>2148110
Not all of it. Depending on your income, maybe not even most of it.

>>2148137
Because the Gummint has no overhead whatsoever, amirite?

>>2148101

> "I put nothing down on this car, its free!!!1!!

So, no.

> respected
> protected

What? The only speech that needs to be protected is unpopular speech, unwanted speech, hateful speech, etc.

I do not care about the ranking without seeing how they rank the press. I want to see how free speech plays no role, I want to find out that they tie government laws relating to "free" housing, "free" medicine, etc to anti-press rankings. Because I bet that is what they do, which is silly.

>>2148141

Yeah, yeah, whatever. We can fight a guerilla war. We just don't want to.

Most IEDs kill civilians. American soldiers always demolish insurgents in head-to-head combat. The difference is that they kill civilians.

We're leaving because we're doing more harm than good. We're not losing. We're just not helping.

>>2148135
Correct it does pay the majority of major fees. For example, life-threatening condition, you would expect to pay only a fraction of the market price.

>>2148123

> they send a questionnaire to a biased group

Let me see this questionnaire then. And how the questions are ranked.

>>2148176
>biased group
>reporters without borders, a group dedicated to freedom of the press
yeah they do appear to biased, against countries that restrict freedom of the press.

>>2148153
If the federal government implemented a health insurance system, there would be little overhead if any. There would be no death panels to determine your medical procedures. You would still choose your doctor and doctors can still serve with other patients.

>>2148157
'Free' medicine has nothing to do with press freedoms. No one ties two together or they would get ridiculed by academics (who would then take their job)...

>>2148213

I know they logically do not go together, but does that group know?

>>2148167
no to mention it has government mandated health savings accounts, extreme levels of price controls, a massive publicly run hospital system. Subsidies for a large percent of the population.

in fact the reason it's so cheap and effective is because they basically shut out most of the private system and almost everyone gets treated in the public system.

>>2147510
That you even call it "socialized medicine" is a sign you've internalised the propaganda of your country's fucked up political scene.

>>2148157
My country has a free public system, and the option to get private insurance and get treated in private hospitals. Contraception is free or heavily subsidized for under 25s. Or largest insurer is a not for profit mutualist type group. We pay low health cost per capita and get decent service (my grandmother got a hip through the public system and my grand father a heart op).

Another of my friends is getting $1220 dollar a month BRAF inhibitors for free.

Europe is bankrupt in part due to their medical system.
You have people denied medical coverage because they're too old.
You can't get sufficient care for transplants if you don't meet a very narrow criteria.
Taxes are insanely higher in Europe to pay for this.

If you want socialized healthcare in america and you want 50% of your income to go to taxes, and you want to be told you're on your own for any expensive care or emergency surgery after you turn 60 then by all means go with the European system.

Because you retards make this thread everyday, that's why.

>>2148251
Note that the price controls are the subsidies. Price controls in Singapore are not achieved by mandate.

And half the population uses the private system. Also the public system is still marketised, which is the key aspect.

>>2148245
most of them will have advanced degrees regarding methodology for the social sciences so umm yeah, i think you can probably trust the figures aren`t totally bugeyed. Believe it or not, those type of positions are hotly contested and writing an article about how someone else isdoinitwrong is the quickest way to get your stripes...

>>2148157
>Because I bet that is what they do, which is silly.
stop acting like you have any idea what you're talking about. yes, we understand that you're butthurt, get over it. just because the constitution says we have freedom of the press doesnt mean that we have the most free press in the world. you'd have to be blind and retarded to miss the massive control our government has over the press. fuck, they threatened to charge a foreigner with treason for releasing info about the horrible things they've been doing. we routinely block articles from being written, demand sources, and blacklist real journalists. have you heard about operation mockingbird? the CIA has it's hands inside the majority of major news sources in this country, what exactly is it that you think they're doing?

Simple, because America is "free."

Regardless, the health care system would have to be paid for. However, the fundamental difference between socialized medicine and privatized is simple: socialized medicine takes care of people who do not pay into the system, whereas privatized does not. Privatized does not "steal" extra money from people who can afford to pay the premiums to take care of people who cannot afford.

Socialism encourages laziness, unfortunately.

>>2148123

The rest of the world sees "freedom of the press" as something utterly different than the U.S. does. They see it as reporters (specifically) being allowed to ask or report on any information regardless of it's source without question from anyone.

In the U.S. we see it as the right of anyone to freely publish and distribute information.

In the U.S., I am using my right to freedom of the press right now. The rest of the world would not consider this to be such.

america doesn't have socialized medicine because we are 100% corrupt

also, in the USA, a country of 300 million...well, mostly assholes, the "greatest country in the world," the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave, if you're poor, fuck you

america is a joke

USA International Credibility circa 1950: 99/100
USA International Credibility circa 2012: n/a

>tfw americans spend the money they could be spending on healthcare on subsidizing the oil industry to keep global prices artificially low
>tfw americans spend the money they could be spending on healthcare on patrolling the high seas to stop piracy, and insure safe passage of travelers
>tfw americans spend the money they could be spending on military technologies that increase global quality of life, such as microprocessors, the internet, and GPS
>tfw americans spend the money they could be spending on healthcare on subsidizing pharmaceutical companies who come out with better cancer management drugs every year

>tfw americans do all this because they love their european, canadian, and australian brethren
>tfw their european, canadian, and australian brethren only ever insult americans

shit sucks, mang

>>2148313
oh yeah, every country except yours is lazy.

>>2148275

this guy isn't Euro
>>2148268
and he comes from a country with comparable taxes to the US that isn't melting down...

>>2148328
Sorry, the truth hurts. When a single country is only $2T behind the entire EU in Total GDP - it's clear that what made the US successful was NOT socialized anything.

>>2148280
>Note that the price controls are the subsidies.
ok
> Price controls in Singapore are not achieved by mandate.
yeah im sure the massive public health system helps keep prices down.
>And half the population uses the private system.
Approximately 70-80% of Singaporeans obtain their medical care within the public health system.
that seems like more than half.
>Also the public system is still marketised, which is the key aspect.
the majority of people complaining about private medicine dont actually care if it's "marketised" but only about the massive profit leeching that's taking money away from fixing people.

>>2148347
so Bush gave you freedoms and didn't give you debt? your country is waning. you have no rights or freedoms. they want you to give everything to your Wal Mart overlords so that you can die

>>2148347

So you would rather have Warren Buffet have $5 billion instead of $4 billion and have some people die of easily treatable conditions?

>>2148369
Our country is waning, yes I agree - but it has been doing such since the 30's and the beginning of socialized programs and bloated government.

Also:
>walmart overlords
This is a troll ploy, right?

>>2148377
If those people can't pay - yes? I pay my dues - I pay taxes, and I pay for my insurance premium. I follow the rules.

Why does anyone deserve special treatment?

>>2148391
>This is a troll ploy, right?
>!TroLL5.Img

>>2148325
sif the US would do any of those things if it didn't directly serve their perceptions of their interest
>That feel when someone tries to pass of self-help as altruism

>>2148391
>our semi socialized country is waning, while more socialized countries pass us.
>this is happening because we started to socialize things
wat?

>>2148391
oh god. people died for you to not work in coal mines. why this rampant paranoia? the new deal cost way less than anything else. why dont you just go back tot he wild west or move to Somalia? it is corporate brainwashing. isntead of bashing collective neighbourly thinking why dont you attack those people whose sole job is to make money off of your sweat and blood? corporations are "people" who dont give a fuck about nobody!

sooo funny that people still defend Amurrica - anyone with half a brain can see they are the greatest force for evil of the modern era

and when i say "evil," i mean murder, pillage, and global destruction

the worst part is, the American CITIZEN, who finances all this warmongering-for-profit, refuses to accept responsibility - "What can I do?" they ask

for one thing you could stop spouting bullshit and start speaking the truth, IN PUBLIC, about your 100% corrupt, elitist, warmongering, shitheel government

far as socialized medicine specifically, of course it's the right thing to do - that's why the USA isn't doing it - enjoy your medical insurance, Ameritards - also enjoy your over-the-top crime rate and hilarious poverty rate for the "richest country in the world"

the world's prayer: "Dear Jeebus, please destroy the USA. Also, it would be pretty sweet for the rest of us if you could make them suffer for what they've done before you 'splode them. Amen."

>>2148402

No one deserves special treatment. That is why I support public healthcare.

No one deserves better healthcare than anyone else because they were born rich or became rich later on. I consider life a fundamental human right.

You consider property a more important right than life, and I have nothing to say to that except that I find that position morally despicable.

>>2148420
>socialized countries pass us.
No, sorry - let me "wat?" back to you.

Nobody is even remotely close to passing the US.

if you have money, you live. if you're poor, you die because you have no use and nobody likes you. HURR DURR SOCIALISM IS BAD

>>2148449
China. Nordic countries. Fuck off

>>2148321

lmao at "n/a"

socialized medicine would only work if everyone was playing for the same time: i.e., if everyone had a vested interest in their country/government so as to not take utterly exploit it

this worked in france, because all the frenchmen serve for france
this worked in the sweden, because all the swedes serve sweden

this WONT work in america so long as people put serving their RACE above serving their COUNTRY. and the problem is, all the fucking races are guilty of it! the whites, the blacks, the hispanics, the asians, the native americans, the jews, all of them!

>>2148449
>implying china isnt pwning us continually with its advancement as we have basically frozen all advancement because people demanded the right to be dumb and worthless.

What kind of world would it be if everyone were a right winger? if nobody gave a fuck about nobody? if everybody got all butthurt and paranoid about religion or sex or skin colour and killed everyone? thanks for coming out but nice people; leftists, make the world go around. we're your crutches.

>>2148461
Seriously, what the hell are you basing this on?

The US almost triples the GDP of China/Japan and literally almost quintuples the amount of GDP that Germany has.

In fact, you could combine China, Japan, and Germany, and still not have the US GDP.

>>2148481
Is this statement actually making some sort of factual-based point? Seriously, what is China "continuously pwning" us in - and in what fields are those not US-assisted?

I want to see some facts here, I'll wait, because they don't exist.

>>2148506
>quintuples the amount of GDP that Germany has.
and what's the population ratio between the two?

America - the Pass the Buck country

Hey, other countries - COME TO AMERICA!!! If you get in the mix, we'll teach you to keep shifting the blame until there's no blame left to shift.

We'll teach you how to control what your citizens want by controlling the media.

We'll teach you that as long as you let your citizens protest an invasion, you can pretend you really didn't want to do it, but simply had to.

We'll show you that you don't have to produce anything, or help the rest of the world in any whatsoever - but as long as you keep moving everyone else's money around, you can still be UGLY RICH!!!

Boo-Ya!!

>>2148506
i knew you'd base it solely on cash. it's not just GDP, it's the standard of living. of life expectancy. of the nordic countries. regulation protects investments. if corporations could run rampant, we'd all be dead. thanks for coming out though

>>2148551
This doesn't help your argument one bit - the US's GDP per capita is literally 10x more than China's, and is 7% larger than Germany.

Skimmed thread, saw Korea somewhere.

>>2148576
> if corporations could run rampant, we'd all be dead
I forget the terminology for this logical fallacy, but you're claiming something you cannot prove, because it's never happened.

Thanks for coming out, though.

Because we aren't a commie country. Fuck off to North Korea, commie!!!

>>2148573
>>2148573

Will you teach me about "plausible deniability?"

>>2148606
There's that word again!

>>2148608
We will teach you about plausible deniability.

We will even teach you how to place a monetary value on human life.

>>2148605
wild west. somalia. nazi germany. american health care. wal mart. banks. thanks.
>>2148606
fuck of to somalia you anti society caveman.

Because shitskins.

/thread

>>2148640
Almost sounds like "Shikshin".

>>2148638
Pic related, it's you.