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    101 KB Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:38 No.1945753  
    http://www.avoiceformen.com/

    What does /pol/ think about the Men's Rights Movement and how feminism has effected our society?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:39 No.1945762
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    inb4jews
    >> Financial Services Guy !!irpohcY63Wp 03/04/12(Sun)06:39 No.1945769
    About damn time.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:41 No.1945785
    >>1945769

    Amen.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:43 No.1945806
    >FEMINISM IS ABOUT EQUALITY YOU MISOGYNIST PIG!!!1!!1!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:46 No.1945833
    Feminists have a good laugh about it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:46 No.1945836
    bump
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:50 No.1945872
    >>1945833

    Probably because they're a bunch of hypocrites. They only want equality when it suits them, when shit gets hard they expect men to take care of them and pick up the slack like back in the good ol' days of fabricated the oppression of chivalry.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:53 No.1945894
    bunch of beta fags circle-jerking about how they're oppressed because they can't get laid. what's new?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:55 No.1945918
    >>1945894

    >beta

    Just wait until you are paying alimony for a kid that isn't even yours or having a property settlement when you weren't even married.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:57 No.1945943
    what an IT'S HAPPENING post.

    neither of those thing happen. There are zero cases of men paying for children that aren't his. All the cases that come up about this get thrown out, and then reported and hand-wringed about by male rights activisits as the sign of the end times. Is that matriarchy at work?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)06:58 No.1945948
    female privilege

    http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2006/0819welfare_haskins.aspx

    "because more than 80 percent of low-income, single-parent families, both those on and off welfare, are headed by mothers, the beneficial outcomes of the welfare law have accrued primarily to mothers and children. Meanwhile, the major favor the welfare law did for fathers was to pursue them ever more relentlessly for child-support payments. In fact, the law may have intensified the already substantial problems faced by poor fathers.

    ...

    Men generally do not qualify for cash welfare, child care, or Medicaid, and they qualify for an EITC that is worth only a tenth as much as the mothers' EITC. The only major benefit for which they qualify is food stamps—to go along with continual pressure from child support and, for many, incarceration. Thus, the carrots are missing."
    >> Financial Services Guy !!irpohcY63Wp 03/04/12(Sun)07:00 No.1945965
    >>1945943
    http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/563571
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:00 No.1945966
    >>1945948
    this is because women do the vast majority of the childcare, and much more likely to end up with kids alone? Carrots? You want government carrots to persuade dads to be dads?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:00 No.1945968
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyenSX4XSZA
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:01 No.1945983
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    >It's legal to mutilate the genitals of boys without their consent, and illegal to do the same thing to girls.
    >Feminists accuse men of being privileged.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:02 No.1945990
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    Single mothers are raising our children.

    >results
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:06 No.1946026
    >it's legal for the Juden to mark the entire nation to be the property (slaves) of the hateful, degenerate sandgod of Abraham by mutilating the penises of boys within days of their birth
    >whine about how African men mutilate the genitals of girls

    I think a true feminist should argue that those who practice African religions are perfectly in their religious right to mutilate girls. I mean, we let the jew do it to every male in the country for "health" reasons--and I agree! I think if women didn't enjoy sex, then they wouldn't have so many STDs.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:07 No.1946033
    >>1945983
    errr the worlds largest patriarchy ordanes that boys should have their penises mutilated.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:08 No.1946045
    >>1945966

    >more likely to end up with kids alone

    Because it is almost unheard of that a family court rules that the male in the relationship should be allowed custody of the children in the event of divorce/separation. Even if the woman is completely incompetent.

    Anyway, more anti-male horseshit about how men are always the problem in a woman's life.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:09 No.1946052
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN05DHO9bJw
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:09 No.1946055
    >>1945965
    colour me suprised! I was wrong to make such a sweeping statement, there obviously are cases of men being made to pay for kids not their own. Clearly when they've acted as a father figure to them their entire lives.

    Perhaps he shouldn't have done that, maybe.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:10 No.1946062
    >>1946033
    >errr the worlds largest patriarchy ordanes that boys should have their penises mutilated.
    Using the buzzword "patriarchy" is not an argument. I never claimed society was dominated by one gender or the other, I was merely pointing out that women have the privilege of not having their genitals mutilated at birth, and men don't.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:11 No.1946065
    >>1945983
    Jews don't have the tradition of mutilating girls. Only boys, which is why america only does it on boys. American culture = Jewish traditions

    Now run along like the loyal little cultural goym you are.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:11 No.1946068
    >>1945966
    >this is because women do the vast majority of the childcare, and much more likely to end up with kids alone?

    in many states unmarried mothers get full automatic custody without regard to what the father wants. the father must prove himself to the mother and the courts. remember, a lot of these women are single mothers by choice, and the father is just a child support dispensary.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:13 No.1946087
    >>1946068
    Funny thing though, many men don't even want to raise their kid. Just spread the seeds.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:13 No.1946090
    >>1946065
    actually it more directly comes from the catholic church in this case.

    Incredible thread of male privilage. This is like a thread of millionares complaining about a reduced bonus.
    >> Financial Services Guy !!irpohcY63Wp 03/04/12(Sun)07:14 No.1946101
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    >aaron russo
    >relying on hearsay
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:14 No.1946104
    >>1946052
    >>1946052
    >>1946052
    >>1946052
    THIS!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:14 No.1946110
    >>1946087
    would women want to raise their kids if they didn't receive child support and welfare?

    your point is bullshit anyway
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:16 No.1946126
    >>1946110
    >would women want to raise their kids if they didn't receive child support and welfare?
    this is what you think of women. You think they don't want to be mothers really, they only do it for money. This is what you think of women.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:16 No.1946128
    >>1946126
    look at what was said about men
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:16 No.1946132
    >>1946110
    Would they afford raising kids without child support? Maybe the additional economical burden is the reason why not?

    You're just being an idiot. I'd mock you, but we're on /pol/. I expect no less.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:17 No.1946135
    >>1946126
    yes, that is what i think about unmarried single mother. not going to apologize like that pussy rush limbaugh, faggot.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:17 No.1946143
    >>1946132
    what about men who cannot afford to pay child support? they are hunted down like dogs.

    http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2006/0819welfare_haskins.aspx

    "because more than 80 percent of low-income, single-parent families, both those on and off welfare, are headed by mothers, the beneficial outcomes of the welfare law have accrued primarily to mothers and children. Meanwhile, the major favor the welfare law did for fathers was to pursue them ever more relentlessly for child-support payments. In fact, the law may have intensified the already substantial problems faced by poor fathers.

    ...

    Men generally do not qualify for cash welfare, child care, or Medicaid, and they qualify for an EITC that is worth only a tenth as much as the mothers' EITC. The only major benefit for which they qualify is food stamps—to go along with continual pressure from child support and, for many, incarceration. Thus, the carrots are missing."

    it sounds like ability to pay doesn't matter much here.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:18 No.1946146
    >>1946135
    >Single mom
    Lol what a hussy she only wants money that slut
    >Single dad
    Such a brave guy. He must really love his child!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:18 No.1946149
    >>1946132
    WHERE IS THE SINGLE FATHER ON WELFARE

    no wait, the vast majority of single men who are fathers are WORKING FULL TIME
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:19 No.1946155
    >>1946146
    >Such a brave guy. He must really love his child!

    they don't get welfare

    http://www.brookings.edu/articles/2006/0819welfare_haskins.aspx

    "Men generally do not qualify for cash welfare, child care, or Medicaid, and they qualify for an EITC that is worth only a tenth as much as the mothers' EITC."
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:20 No.1946163
    >>1946143
    Oh, they can't afford supporting the kid? Poor guys, we should let them off the hook!

    You really believe only men are the ones who'll have to make economical sacrifices for the kid?

    I bet you'd think it's okay if the kid is neglected by single dads who can't afford to feed the kid.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:20 No.1946164
    >>1946146

    Probably because the father had to fight tooth and nail in a biased court and receives no state compensation, and certainly no child support from the mother.

    There is no comparison.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:20 No.1946166
    >>1946132

    >the additional economic burden

    Who could imagine that having children could impact on your lifestyle. What an inconvenience.

    Considering there is no accountability where the alimony money even goes, it is just a pension for women.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:21 No.1946178
    >>1946155
    And that argues how with my point?

    You think all women are money hungry whores who only have kids for cash, whereas fathers are the self sacrificing heroes.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:21 No.1946181
    >A woman doesn't want the responsibilities of raising a child.
    She goes to a nearby clinic and gets an abortion.

    >A man doesn't want the responsibilities of raising a child
    YOU KNEW WHAT YOU WERE GETTING INTO WHEN YOU HAD SEX. WHAT, YOU THINK YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO JUST UP AND ABANDON THAT POOR WOMAN? IF YOU CAN'T DO THE TIME DON'T DO THE CRIME!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:21 No.1946182
    >>1946163
    they are neglected by the mothers, who raise children who are socially maladjusted and are more likely to end up in prison

    woman = poor, can't support child. give her welfare

    man = poor, can't support child. hunt him down like a dog for child support. no welfare eligibility. can't see child. mother won't let him

    child = carjacker in 16 years, armed theft in 18
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:22 No.1946193
    >>1946181
    Come back and make that arguement when you start giving birth through your dick.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:23 No.1946201
    >>1946178
    >You think all women are money hungry whores who only have kids for cash, whereas fathers are the self sacrificing heroes.
    Women can opt out of parenthood. Men can't. Yet you still sing the song of female victimhood as shrilly as if Roe vs. Wade was overturned yesterday.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:23 No.1946203
    >>1946163

    >Poor guys

    Yes, they are. Most of them probably didn't want the kid and couldn't afford it in the first place. But since the mother couldn't be assed to use the 12 different forms of contraception available to women, or the morning after pill, or get an abortion. Both she and the state are forcing this man into 18 years of slavery or face imprisonment.

    But of course you feminists are all about equality for everyone, right?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:24 No.1946207
    >>1946193
    But I don't have a problem with abortion, cunt.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:24 No.1946209
    >>1946201
    And again you prove that you have this black and white views of mothers only want money and the father is always a victim
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:24 No.1946210
    >>1946178
    >You think all women are money hungry whores who only have kids for cash, whereas fathers are the self sacrificing heroes.

    when a father is a single parent, he is more likely to work full-time, not be on assistance,

    only a quarter of non-custodial fathers default on their child support. while only 20% of non-custodial mothers pay child support in some capacity, nearly half of all non-custodial mothers default on support

    not all, but the sentiment characterizes mothers more than fathers.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:25 No.1946215
    >>1946193
    If there is to be equality in reproduction, then women can't use the "I give birth to it" argument.

    A man should have the right to not want a child, especially since women have control over their fertility.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:25 No.1946218
    >>1946203
    Yeah, it's always the bitch's fault for not using prevention. Poor guy, why should he have to use a condom? It reduces the pleasure!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:26 No.1946221
    >>1946182
    Solution = forced abortions of all unmarried poors
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:26 No.1946223
    >>1946209
    >And again you prove that you have this black and white views of mothers only want money and the father is always a victim
    Again? This was the first time I replied to you. And I said nothing to that effect in my post.

    Can you read?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:26 No.1946228
    >>1946209
    look at the statistics you bitch
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:27 No.1946234
    >>1946210
    And again, this must really mean every single individual mother have kids only to get money, amirite?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:27 No.1946235
    >>1946218
    all men should use a condom! always.24/7. every time

    the laws are against them. society is against fathers. especially black fathers. protect yourself, no one else will
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:27 No.1946236
    >>1946218
    >Consent to sex without a condom
    >Blame the man when you get pregnant
    Because I just had to fuck him. It's not like there's anyone else with a dick out there. POOR ME!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:27 No.1946239
    >>1946218

    >women shouldn't take any responsibility for the repercussions of their actions, only men should

    And we all know how well those condoms can work, they never break or anything.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:28 No.1946247
    >>1946236
    How about putting the blame on both of them? Of course, such radical thinking is scary. Better just say it's always the women.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:29 No.1946252
    >>1946234
    >And again, this must really mean every single individual mother have kids only to get money, amirite?

    some want money, some want a child, and they want the state and the man to pay and the man to not have any rights.

    nearly half of mothers do not think it's a big deal if the father isn't around. look at the studies. look at the statistics.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:29 No.1946254
    >>1946218
    And when the condom breaks? Guy's fault.
    And when her birth control fails? Guys' fault.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:29 No.1946256
    >>1946218

    >reduce the pleasure

    I'm sure that if you can't even provide that service for whatever guy you have kissing your feet for the dead-fish sex you give him one a month or something. There would be no reason he would be around for too much longer.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:29 No.1946260
    The Men's Right Movement is useless, as it does not understand feminism is marxism, and marxism is jewry. The MRA says its opposed to feminism, yet it is in favor of the egalitarian pipedream. They will never achieve success because they do not understand what they are fighting against.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:29 No.1946261
    >Don't use condom
    >Get kid
    >Blame mother for letting you fuck her without a condom
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:30 No.1946270
    >>1946247
    it would be great if blame were equal.

    but women:
    get assistance
    get automatic custody
    are believed if they make up lies about abuse or violence

    men:
    not eligible for welfare programs
    no custody unless the mother is really fucked up
    faces a much higher burden of proof that he is a good parent
    pay child support without regard to ability to pay, will be thrown in prison if he can't afford it.

    this is the general case and there are exceptions, but this is the reality in most cases.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:31 No.1946273
    Why are you fags talking as if you someday will have a kid?

    You're on /pol/. You're doomed to be virgins forever. Why care for what the normal well adjusted guys do and don't?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:31 No.1946275
    >>1946247
    >Blame it all on men
    >Get mad at others for pointing out a woman's autonomy and responsibility
    I agree there's a joint responsibility, cunt. I was just pointing out how sexist and degrading to women your argument was.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:31 No.1946276
    >>1946261
    >Use condom
    >it breaks
    >she keeps the kid
    >have to live in poverty or go to prison
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:32 No.1946279
    >>1946275
    >I was just pointing out how sexist and degrading to women your argument was.

    a person on 4chan is degrading to women through his posts = to be condemned

    the law is degrading to men = silence
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:32 No.1946280
    And lets not forget that women are legally allowed to commit fraud.

    >I'm on the pill honey, you can come inside me :3
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:32 No.1946282
    >Animals breeding, can't control their carnal lust
    >Cry when you have to face the music you made because of your lack of restraint

    Pathetic, both men and women.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:32 No.1946283
    >>1946261
    No, I blame society for not allowing men to opt out of parenthood.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:33 No.1946287
    >>1946280
    did you learn this from me :)

    i hope so. i was preaching the legal fraud angle last time. but if you came to it independently, i am glad too. let's just get the word out there.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:34 No.1946296
    >>1946283
    even if men cannot opt out how about:
    -RECEIPTS for child support
    -MOTHER does not decide visitation, more equal visitation
    -FATHER can be eligible for assistance when he is on hard times, so he can be in the child's life

    EQUALITY UNDER THE LAW NOW
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:34 No.1946297
    >>1946279
    >the law is degrading to men = silence
    Uh, I've been advocating for men's rights in this very thread in different posts. Maybe you should think nest time before pecking at those keys with your fat sweaty fingers.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:34 No.1946298
    >>1946287

    I heard it listening to the Professor.

    Tom Leykis saved my life.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:35 No.1946302
    Alot of victim complex in this thread.

    If you fuck a slut who's likely to lie to you about prevention, you're a dumb sad retard who deserve what you get.

    Just like how the slut is a retard for getting kid with a black guy who's likely to run out on her.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:38 No.1946321
    >>1946302

    I agree, but should we punish the guy for being dumb, or should we punish the girl for being a lying whore?

    >sleeps with woman for one night
    >sentenced to 18 years of financial slavery or imprisonment
    >deserved what he got

    Fuck off.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:38 No.1946322
    >>1946302
    >Men aren't allowed to be vocal about being victims
    How about you choke on chainsaw, you fucking cretin? If I'm discriminated against, I'll be damned if I'm going to be silent about it because of archaic notions of masculinity that don't benefit me in the slightest.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:39 No.1946329
    >Stop Violence against Women. Public service announcement funded by federal dollars
    >Every single commercial is a man beating on his wife or girlfriend
    >Completely ignores the fact that domestic assault is split 50/50 just from the cases we know about
    >Maybe it's even worse, as no dude wants to tell a bunch of cops his girlfriend beat the shit out of him
    >The only reason we know of most domestic attacks against men is because when women attack, they tend to utilize weapons, and it's fatal much more often

    This shit always, ALWAYS rustled my jimmies.

    Why can't it just be a general "Stop domestic violence" commercial? Why does it need to be narrowed down to women specifically?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:40 No.1946336
    >>1946273

    >virgins forever

    I wish this were the case. Women become incredibly desperate when their biological clock starts going off and throw themselves at almost anyone who has a dick. It is the reverse of what you are probably going through now in puberty where guys have to chase women.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:41 No.1946344
    >>1946321
    Why punish? It's enough punishment to live with that shit when you're dumb or lack restraint enough to fuck some chick without taking safety measures.

    Let's face it. If a bitch is willing to lie to get a kid with you, chances are, she's bottom barrel, and you seriously need to get better standards.

    >>1946322
    All i'm saying is that you sound like a little whiney bitch, pulling the "i'm the victim here, not a trace of blame is to be put on me!" card
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:42 No.1946354
    >>1946302

    You don't know a girl is a slut who lies about using protection until she is pregnant and you find out that she is fucking everyone else.

    They don't wear badges and tell you this on the first date.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:43 No.1946361
    >>1946336
    >Women become incredibly desperate
    If you fuck a desperate tragic woman, you seriously need to get some better standards. Or learn to control your dick. Not every hole thrown at you needs to be filled.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:43 No.1946370
    >>1946344
    Who said no blame at all? Fair is fair, and as far as I'm concerned any man should be able to opt out of parenthood as long as they pay half the cost of an abortion. If the woman decides to keep it after that, it's her problem.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:43 No.1946372
    >>1946329

    >Why does it need to be narrowed down to women specifically?

    Because women (and many men) still hold on to the old ideals of chivalry even in this post-feminist society. The idea that women need special protection still prevails and modern feminists and old school chivalry advocates make unusual bedfellows when it comes to things like this.

    Feminism AND Chivalry are both notions that must be rejected and destroyed if we are to have real equality between the genders.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:44 No.1946377
    >>1946354
    >How do i read people?
    If you get manipulated into that shit, you had it comming.

    How about some critical thinking?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:45 No.1946381
    Afraid of getting a kid because all the women want your sperm and money?

    Then castrate yourself and shut the fuck up.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:45 No.1946382
    >>1946361

    The post you made was:

    >why should you be caring about kids considering you are all here and none of you will ever get laid

    I explained why.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:45 No.1946384
    >>1946372
    On chivalry. I've read that women find it creepy when men practice chivalry.

    The basic things like holding doors and such freak women out.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:47 No.1946393
    >>1946382
    Yeah, better fuck all the womens chasing you! Maybe you'll even get that "respect" for being such a stud fucking every crack gets you!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:47 No.1946396
    >>1946377
    >If you get manipulated into that shit, you had it comming.
    If I slit your throat in a dark alley, you have it comming.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:48 No.1946398
    >>1946298
    BLOW ME UP, ANON
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:48 No.1946404
    >>1946396
    Totally the same thing!

    Or, would be if i followed you into the alley because you said you were going to give me money or something.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:49 No.1946407
    >>1946404
    No, it's your fault for being weak enough to allow me to get away with it, period.
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    >>1946398

    HEEERRRRREEEE YAA GOOOO
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:49 No.1946409
    sandra fluke is a stupid cunt
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:49 No.1946410
    >>1946377

    >critical thinking

    How can you think critically when you don't even know anything about her to begin with?

    What you are advocating is guessing and hoping that you are right.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:51 No.1946427
    >>1946393

    What are you trying to prove here again?

    I'm lost.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:51 No.1946431
    >>1946407

    And of course you hold no responsibility for actually doing it.

    We done here? Or are you still going to try and put all the responsibility on the victim?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:52 No.1946438
    >>1946410
    If you're willing to fuck a woman you know nothing about, you are a fucking moron.

    And if you, after time, still don't really know the woman, you're still a moron, and socially stupid.

    In fact, nobody is a total blank slate. They have friends and social circles that easily hints on their personality.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:53 No.1946445
    >>1946431
    >Blames victims
    >Gets butthurt at other people blaming victims
    It's like you're actually retarded.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:54 No.1946450
    >>1946427
    If women want your dick, you don't need to actually fuck them. Especially if you're afraid of getting kids.

    That's the point in your "desperate women, biological clock chasing you"
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:54 No.1946457
    >>1946445

    What victim did I blame?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:54 No.1946459
    >>1946407
    This is relatable to fucking women, how exactly?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:55 No.1946463
    >>1946408

    i LOVE that
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:56 No.1946470
    >>1946445
    >Cut a guys throat
    >I'm the victim!

    Sure thing bro. Thats what you imply with
    >Blames victims
    Because the killer in that alley is the victim
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:57 No.1946477
    >>1946457
    See >>1946377. Act facetious and deny similarities. Wash rinse and repeat.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:58 No.1946487
    >>1946477
    >Getting killed by a guy in an alleyway is the same as getting women pregnant when you don't want to!

    Most people would NOT follow the guy into the alley. Know why? Because they aren't autistic fucks and is capable to judge the intent of the guy.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:58 No.1946488
    >>1946470
    >Doesn't understand a blatant metaphor
    How does it feel not having a triple digit I.Q.?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:58 No.1946489
    >>1946438

    >know nothing about

    It takes a long time to sort the lies from the truth.

    >friends and social circles
    >hints at personality

    Again, this takes a lot of time to find out who someone's really close friends are and to win the trust of people close to them for them to tell you how someone is really like or what they did before you met them.

    In that period you could have had a kid or got married or she could have 'figured out' that you were playing too careful and ran away.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)07:59 No.1946493
    >>1946470
    not that guy
    but just coming in to point out
    you're kinda absolutely retarded at following analogies

    >>1946457
    >>What victim did I blame?

    you're just retarded period
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:00 No.1946498
    >>1946450

    >you don't have to fuck them

    Sure. I accept that.

    However your first post was that most people here won't even be given the opportunity. Which is what I rebuffed.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:01 No.1946503
    >>1946489
    Well then, how about just not fucking her until you have 100% pure physical evidence on how she is? Maybe stalk her at night to see where and whom she meets?

    It's not like you HAVE to gamble on whenever or not she's lying.

    If you get fooled into fucking her, all the while not taking your own measures to avoid pregnancy, you're no better than the stupid slut who gets roofies in the drink a stranger gives her and raped.

    Indeed, if she won't sleep with you if you use a condom, that should be more than enough to tell you to get the fuck out.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:01 No.1946506
    ITT: Blaming the victim is perfectly appropriate as long as it's against men.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:03 No.1946517
    >>1946506
    >I have a huge victim complex
    Why aren't you crying in threads about how muslims, as few as 5%, are "raping" your culture?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:03 No.1946518
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    >guy gets murdered
    >not a victim
    >no responsibility lays on murderer

    >guy gets tricked/forced into fatherhood
    >not a victim
    >no responsibility lays on bitch

    Am I reading this thread correctly?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:04 No.1946520
    >>1946518
    Welcome to /pol/, where logic has no place.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:06 No.1946535
    >>1946517
    >Please adhere to archaic codes of masculinity and don't be vocal about discrimination when it's against men.
    How about fuck no, you sexist cunt?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:06 No.1946538
    >>1946503

    >fucking until you have 100% evidence

    Because that would mean far more money I would have to spend without any return.

    >stalk her

    Hard when you are holding down a full time job.

    >take measures to avoid pregnancy

    The only surefire method would be to not have sex at all. Everything else will have its flaws.

    >obvious signs

    It is never that simple. It would be something vague like- she would claim that her pills weren't working or that the condom had a little hole in it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:08 No.1946549
    >>1946538
    >The only surefire method would be to not have sex at all. Everything else will have its flaws.

    It's that simple. If you are this afraid that women will use you to get kids. Then don't sleep around.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:08 No.1946552
    Men's rights? Hahahaha. Ah. You boys are so cute.

    But no. That's fucking pathetic.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:09 No.1946556
    related:
    http://www.the-spearhead.com/2012/02/25/who-is-more-responsible-for-sex/

    it's nearly always the woman who decides when sex is had.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:10 No.1946564
    >>1946549

    >"keep it in your pants" argument

    Or we could, you know, make the laws more equitable. Just a thought.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:10 No.1946566
    >>1946549
    >It's that simple. If you are this afraid that women will use you to get kids. Then don't sleep around.
    It's that simple. If you are this afraid of getting pregnant. Then don't sleep around.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:11 No.1946573
    >Be deathly afraid of being used by women as a babby dispenser
    >Still fuck women
    How about being celibate if you're so afraid?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:11 No.1946581
    >>1946549

    You might as well just avoid women at all in that case.

    Even still, if she can prove that you had some sort of symbiotic relationship- the courts will be able to give her something of yours anyway.

    The point simply is that you can't know until you know. If you want to be paranoid and look for something that might not be there, you will probably invent it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:12 No.1946584
    >>1946552

    Shouldn't you be at a coffee shop somewhere complaining about how women's haircuts are $5 more than men's?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:12 No.1946585
    >>1946566
    >It's that simple. If you are this afraid of getting pregnant. Then don't sleep around.
    this. somehow the feminist arguments never seem to apply to women
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:12 No.1946589
    >>1946564
    Sure, but until then and all else fails, then keep it in your fucking pants, otherwise you just knowingly gamble.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:13 No.1946591
    Given the empathy feminist have engendered, I predict the future to be an endless saga of open rape in the streets.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:14 No.1946595
    >>1946584
    Shouldn't you be masturbating to pictures of women who would never give you the time of day?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:14 No.1946598
    >>1946573

    Women feed the rumor mill about how you are gay or how you are a pedophile or something else if you choose to avoid their advances. It can destroy your career and make you a social outcast in the workplace.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:14 No.1946603
    >>1946589
    nice victim blaming. might want to check your privilege
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:15 No.1946607
    >>1946595
    >Thinks I masturbate to women
    Nice try, cunt.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:16 No.1946610
    >>1946598
    Oh wow. This is some new level of paranoid conspiracy.

    Hell. If you're that paranoid, might as well say you're gay to get rid of the women. We're not in 1940 anymore. Nobody gives a shit if you're gay.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:16 No.1946616
    >>1946598
    You must be some hot stuff if all those women are out to get your genes and will blackmail you into it.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:17 No.1946620
    feels pretty goodman.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:17 No.1946628
    >>1946595

    Why are you feminists so obsessed with what guys masterbate to? Could it be that what we masterbate to isn't you?

    Do something about that mustache btw.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:18 No.1946631
    It's sad that a buncha repressed homosexuals have decided that there needs to be a "men's rights" movement. Fact is that men are over-privileged. Are there one or two tiny things where women have it better than men? Sure. Get over it, you whiny little sissies.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:18 No.1946636
    >>1946603
    You know why you don't play around with loaded weapons? To avoid it blasting you in the face.

    Sure, you're a victim, but a fucking dumb one who deserved it. Same shit goes for "absolutely" having to fuck women.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:19 No.1946648
    ITT: Betas in denial
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:19 No.1946651
    >>1946631
    The sad thing is, this will actually work to bait people into genuine rage.

    Trolling is so easy these days.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:20 No.1946654
    >>1946636
    >Sure, you're a victim, but a fucking dumb one who deserved it. Same shit goes for "absolutely" having to fuck women.
    Just like a woman who goes outside dressed like a slut, eh?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:20 No.1946659
    >>1946610

    >paranoid conspiracy

    Suppose you never went to high school and saw how rumors spread by popular, well connected people can completely ruin someone.

    >might as well say you are gay

    I already use that line. The only drawback is that gay men get a little upset when you advertise yourself as being gay, but tell them you have no interest when they hit on you.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:21 No.1946671
    >>1946631
    >Are there one or two tiny things where men have it better than women? Sure. Get over it, you whiny little sissies.
    FTFY
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:21 No.1946673
    >>1946654
    >OMG I MUST FUCK THAT SLUTTY DRESSED WOMAN

    Have some restraint, you primitive monkey. Though if the women gets raped over it, yes, she is fucking dumb. A victim, but a seriously retarded one.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:22 No.1946681
    I'm just going to cum in every woman I get a chance to. I've already done it numerous times. Babies all over the world...

    Child support? Me on disability, no can pay...

    HAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAH

    My biological duty has been met.

    Oh yeah, men's rights are for cuckolded pussies to talk about. I do what I want.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:23 No.1946689
    >>1946659
    Yes, i'm sure these well connected women will spend their time ruining you spesifically if you don't dick them. It's not like theres a whole world of other guys out there.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:23 No.1946696
    >>1946591

    This makes sense. As most women are loath to carry the baby of a rapist, men should just rape to make certain the girl has an abortion.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:24 No.1946702
    >>1946673

    So, there should be no prosecution of the rapist, right?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:24 No.1946705
    >>1946616

    >hot stuff

    This isn't high school. You don't need to put on a show for women once they start getting older.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:25 No.1946708
    >>1946671
    Uh huh. Waahh! I have to pay child support for kids I am too damned lazy to raise. Waaahh! I have to pay for dinner on a first date.

    Your life is so fucking hard. Until the last hundred years, women were treated as property. In many places, they still are. 1/3 in the US gets molested. 1/5 gets raped.

    Hate women so much? Go fuck each other.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:26 No.1946723
    >>1946708

    > Your life is so fucking hard. Until the last hundred years, women were treated as property. In many places, they still are.

    So men, who have never done wrong against women have to pay for it?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:27 No.1946726
    >>1946708
    I agree. Also, abortions are for skanks with no self-control and should be outlawed.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:27 No.1946729
    >>1946708
    >don't have a leg to stand on
    >start using shaming language
    nothing new under the sun
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:27 No.1946733
    >>1946702
    Where did you get that part from?

    I'm saying, if you play with fire and get burned, you're a victim nonetheless, but still a fucking dumb one undeserving of sympathy.

    You honestly feel bad for the idiots who shoot themselves in the foot? Or the women who drinks themselves into coma and get raped? Or the guy who refuse to use any prevention at all and get a girl pregnant?

    All are victims, and all are retarded for letting that happen. Being dumb don't excuse you from taking responsibility for doing something you know is a bad idea.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:28 No.1946736
    >>1946689

    >spend their time

    Never heard of office gossip?

    >dick them

    Half the time they aren't even looking for that, they are just 'testing' you to see if you are another sap like the other guys skirt chasing.

    >world of guys

    It isn't about looking for a man for them. It is just a game of power and control. If they can't break you sexually, then they will use rumors and other shit to force you to bow to them.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:29 No.1946742
    >>1946733
    What does any of this emotional horseshit have to do with making laws equitable?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:30 No.1946749
    >>1946729
    Maybe it is time, though, that people like you started being ashamed of your shitty behavior.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:30 No.1946750
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    >Hate women so much? Go fuck each other.

    bitch u steppin
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:30 No.1946751
    >>1946736
    Funny thing is, i bet you haven't left the basement since highschool.

    But you know what? If that's what you believe, then keep on believing it. It won't affect the rest of us who aren't socially retarded.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:30 No.1946755
    >>1946733

    > Man rapes woman who behaves slutty => he is going to jail

    > Women deceives man who is naive => no consequences for woman whatsoever

    I mean, if you are so much into victim blaiming, why not just make all forms of fraud legal?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:31 No.1946759
    >>1946742

    Well, you see, in one instance the girl is the victim and has the protection of law.

    In the other case...
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:32 No.1946766
    >>1946742
    >So, there should be no prosecution of the rapist, right?

    You implied i said that the offender is excused, when i only pointed out that even though you are a victim, you're still responsible for yourself. You don't walk through favelas wearing expensive clothes and somehow not expect to be mugged.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:33 No.1946777
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    Is this thread just a roundabout way of dealing with jealousy of Muslims and their deferential womenfolk?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:33 No.1946782
    >>1946766

    Ok, we can agree on that. So a women who decives a man into having a child should be punished by law nevertheless, right?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:34 No.1946788
    >>1946755
    >manipulating and deception should be a crime!
    Oh wow, hows things in your carebear bubble?

    I bet you think killing someone should only be as punishable as stealing.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:34 No.1946795
    Why not become muslims and move to middle east? Sounds like you'd love it there!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:35 No.1946797
    guys guys guys. one day you're just gonna have to grow up and admit that pretending to identify with rapists never really made you look :edgy: and that if there's a problem attendant on the time and energy you wasted trying to look :edgy: it's of your own creation.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:35 No.1946801
    >>1946723
    Pay for it? You're not paying anything. This is just a circlejerk of "bros before hoes!" type idiots patting themselves on the back because women don't like them.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:36 No.1946806
    >>1946795

    Their beards and guns make us feel less butch.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:37 No.1946815
    >>1946797
    I don't identify with rapists at all, because I have absolutely zero interest in fucking women.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:37 No.1946820
    >>1946788

    >manipulating and deception should be a crime!

    But it is a crime, except in case of woman deceiving man.
    If I sell a car to you and lie about it's condition, it's against the law.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:37 No.1946822
    >>1946751

    >left the basement since high school

    I wish that was the case. I probably would have been far happier playing WoW all day than interacting with people outside.

    >socially retarded

    You are probably a semi-popular high school kid at best. Just leave these debates to people who would be something without their parents.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:38 No.1946825
    >>1946806
    How is that any different from southern USA?
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:38 No.1946831
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    >So a women who decives a man into having a child should be punished by law nevertheless, right?

    Well duh. If you can believe in the notion of the pathetic, paranoid, threatened man it's not a stretch to accept that some women are parasitic sluts. Oh look - !
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:38 No.1946835
    >>1946820
    Because you offer a product that exchange ownership.

    sex and babies isn't owned products.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:39 No.1946837
    >>1946801
    I agree. Also, The suffragette movement was composed of a bunch of dried up spinsters who were angry that nobody was willing to give them a good dicking.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:39 No.1946838
    >2012
    >arguing with people who think intercourse is a form of oppression

    ISHIGGYDIGGY
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:39 No.1946845
    >>1946825

    But...but...they're browns? and they hate our freedom?
    GODDAMMIT MISTER SWANKY LORD ISLAM THE ONLY THREE WORDS I NEED TO KNOW ARE U, S AND A!
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:39 No.1946846
    >>1946795

    Probably when the economy tanks as women didn't like voting for anyone who doesn't have 'values'.

    Anyone with any sensibility will be leaving the country.
    >> Anonymous 03/04/12(Sun)08:39 No.1946848
    >>1946822
    Oh the irony in your post.


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