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    149 KB Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:02 No.1366710  
    Liberal paradise
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:08 No.1366750
    Looks like Montreal (ville st pierre)
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:11 No.1366780
    Labor unions, multiculturalism, homosexuality.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:11 No.1366782
    Detroit? East St. Louis? South Chicago? So many possibilities...
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:17 No.1366829
    funny thing is that these are clearly privately owned buildings.

    so i'm curious, anti-liberal OP.

    what's your point? that these private owners aren't spending enough money on upkeep of their property?

    should they be required to keep windows and fresh paint -- say, by, I don't know, maybe a _regulation_?
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:19 No.1366849
    The concept of private property is liberal. You are ignorant and you need to read more and troll less.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:20 No.1366864
    >>1366829
    Thanks to your pet niggers, those buildings aren't worth the paint to cover them.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:24 No.1366896
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    <----- liberal paradise
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:24 No.1366907
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    <--- liberal paradise
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:25 No.1366912
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    <--- liberal paradise

    OP can eat a dick.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:28 No.1366931
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    >mfw both liberals AND conservatives are wrong (borderline retarded) on several key issues
    >> DCPagan 01/28/12(Sat)11:28 No.1366932
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    I bet you can't name this city.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:28 No.1366939
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    liberal paradise

    New Haven CT, and all of New England.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:29 No.1366951
    >>1366932

    Teheran
    >> DCPagan 01/28/12(Sat)11:30 No.1366959
    >>1366951
    Holy sh!t, you're right.
    But, you spelled it wrong.
    Tehran.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:33 No.1366993
    >>1366864
    > implying people live in these buildings

    Even poor people have standards.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:35 No.1367013
    >>1366939
    >new haven
    >white
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:35 No.1367017
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    Libertarian Paradise
    >> JackBurton !H59BjriIIg 01/28/12(Sat)11:37 No.1367040
    >>1366931
    >mfw when moderates think theyre somehow enlightened for the fact that theyre moderates, even though moderates are considered radicals when and where they are.

    although, you are right

    shit that both sides are wrong about:

    conservatives: God

    Liberals: everything else
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:38 No.1367047
    >>1367017
    >>1367017
    I wish I could've lived there.
    No state governance, only the Triads.
    T'would've been fun.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:39 No.1367050
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    Another Libertarian paradise.
    >> JackBurton !H59BjriIIg 01/28/12(Sat)11:40 No.1367059
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    >>1366896
    >>1366907
    >>1366912
    >>1366939
    all cities look good from a distance

    pic related: its detroit
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:40 No.1367060
    >>1367017
    you realize that, it actually kinda was? there aren't statistics available, but by all accounts it was filled mostly with upper-middle-class professionals and had a significantly higher standard of living than surrounding area. sure they were probably all dying of mold infections or whatever, and there probably were slave trade dungeons somewhere in it, but it was still better than communism.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:44 No.1367091
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    >>1367059
    Well New England as a whole is ultra liberal and is doing rather very well in all fields.
    Economy
    Education
    Health
    Crime
    etc.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:45 No.1367100
    >>1366896

    >Geneva
    >Liberal Paradise

    The Swiss People's Party is still the largest party in Swiss politics and they're decidedly conservative. The city of Geneva is pretty liberal (French speaking Switzerland in general) but the prosperity they enjoy can be almost entirely chalked up to the national measures passed by the conservative led coalition in the National Council.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:46 No.1367119
    >>1367060
    >>1367060
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lby9P3ms11w
    It wasn't perfect, but a lot of people got a better standard of living, and had a chance to make a living free of onerous regulations there.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:46 No.1367121
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    Libertarian Paradise
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:47 No.1367132
    >>1367100
    Conservative within European standards which here is what we call moderate left.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:48 No.1367146
    >>1367091
    States like New Hampshire and Vermont are not very liberal.

    It's just the whitest part of the nation.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:48 No.1367151
    >>1367132
    it is what in amercia would be called RACIST
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:49 No.1367152
    >>1366959
    >>1366951

    Blind guess hehe and a bit of a clue from Call of Duty MW3, also i did spell it right in my own language -.-
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:50 No.1367170
    >>1367121
    Not at all, in combination between PRC and its own government makes it anything but libertarian.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:51 No.1367180
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    Conservative paradise
    >> JackBurton !H59BjriIIg 01/28/12(Sat)11:53 No.1367197
    >>1367132
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Index_of_Economic_Freedom

    thats incorrect. The liberals of the US have long since ruined the US's conservative economic system and now we're more like Europe than ever. the bad parts i mean which is pretty much everywhere but switzerland and maybe germany
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)11:57 No.1367230
    >>1367170
    All land in Hong Kong is owned by the government and leased to private users. By restricting the sale of land leases, the Hong Kong government keeps the price of land at what some would say are artificially high prices and this allows the government to support public spending with a low tax rate.

    Not to mention that libertarianism requires adequate enforcement of property rights and contracts, otherwise you don't have much economic freedoms.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:01 No.1367276
    >>1367170
    How the hell does the People's Republic of China improve Hong Kong o_0
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:02 No.1367286
    >>1367180
    >caricature of conservatism from a comic book made into a movie by the fucking Wachowski Bros.
    Really now? Should I retort by using the Russians from Red Dawn?
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:03 No.1367293
    >>1366780
    >Labor unions
    >Liberalism
    pick one
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:03 No.1367299
    >>1367197
    >Economic Freedom
    That is not really a measure of libertarians.

    Quick example
    in reference to HK
    >Government intervention, initiated by the later colonial governments and continued since 1997, has steadily increased, with the introduction of export credit guarantees, a compulsory pension scheme, a minimum wage, anti-discrimination laws, and a state mortgage backer.

    >The government has intervened to create economic institutions such as the Hong Kong Stock Market and has been involved in public works projects and social welfare spending. All land in Hong Kong is owned by the government and leased to private users. By restricting the sale of land leases, the Hong Kong government keeps the price of land at what some would say are artificially high prices and this allows the government to support public spending with a low tax rate.

    They also still have a central bank.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:04 No.1367314
    >>1367180
    a real conservative paradise cant be destroyed by hipsterfag who is so ugly he wears a mask all the time
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:08 No.1367350
    >>1367299
    Yes but the government intervention the Economic Freedom Index is in support of would be enforcement of property rights and contracts which results in more economic freedom (which libertarians desire).

    For example, a good index for social freedom would also include how good enforcement of anti-rape laws are.

    The economic freedom index is also about how much government gets off people's backs in a sense (for example, countries with a lower percentage of government spending compared to GDP would also be higher on the list).
    >> JackBurton !H59BjriIIg 01/28/12(Sat)12:09 No.1367364
    >>1367293
    >i know the difference between american liberalism and classical liberalism look at me i'm smart
    >hows poli sci 101 going?
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:14 No.1367424
    >>1367350
    >Yes but the government intervention the Economic Freedom Index is in support of would be enforcement of property rights

    That's wasn't mentioned in my quotes.
    >Government intervention, initiated by the later colonial governments and continued since 1997, has steadily increased, with the introduction of export credit guarantees, a compulsory pension scheme, a minimum wage, anti-discrimination laws, and a state mortgage backer.
    ^This completely liberal in principle and something libertarian resist.

    >The government has intervened to create economic institutions such as the Hong Kong Stock Market
    liberal
    > and has been involved in public works projects and social welfare spending.
    liberal
    >By restricting the sale of land leases, the Hong Kong government keeps the price of land at what some would say are artificially high prices
    liberal

    None of this things go along with Libertarians.
    They don't like the idea of the gold standard.
    Universal Health Care
    Central Bank is directly connected to the stocks market and like to do the same thing Bernanke does here: play with inflation.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:22 No.1367519
    >>1367424
    Artificially increasing housing prices is a bad thing >_>
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)12:55 No.1367935
    http://alt.coxnewsweb.com/statesman/metro/081205libs.pdf

    Detriot is the most liberal city in America


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