http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gary_Johnson#Early_life.2C_education.2C_and_business_career

>While in college, Johnson earned money as a door-to-door handyman.[23] His success in that arena encouraged him to start his own business, Big J Enterprises, in 1976. When he started the business, which focused on mechanical contracting, Johnson was its only employee.[24] His major break with the firm was receiving a large contract from Intel's expansion in Rio Rancho, which increased Big J's revenue to $38 million.
doing something + luck

Step one: pop out of a rich persons vagina

There is no second step

>>1296258
Doing something has a lot bigger hand in it than luck.

People who accomplish nothing more than holding a lay-z-boy down rarely if ever become rich, regardless of how lucky they may be.

95% luck/circumstance, 4.999% kissing ass, .0001% hard work

>>1296299
Hard work =/ money.

Name one coal minner, farmer, or rancher that is rich.

There are lots of biographies of rich people that detail their careers.

Most of them boil down to this:
- I found something I was passionate about
- I built a business around that

I know it's really easy to get upset and just assume rich people did bad things to get rich, or that they were simply handed all their money... but that's just not how it works. There really are people with big ideas who work really hard to realize them and they are rewarded handsomely for it.
Instead of watching football games and drinking beer they're going to seminars, reading books, making connections with people who can help them. Instead of buy a new plasma screen tv and drinking gourmet coffee they're saving their money and buying assets that generate more money. Instead of planning on working for 40 years and retiring, they focus their life around getting out of the rat race.

Step 1 - Get off 4chan
Step 2 - Remove large chip from shoulder
Step 3 - Become self employed
Step 4 - Luck (if step 4 fails return to step 3 and try again)
Step 5 - Buy a yacht

Part of the joy of being rich is knowing that others are struggling to survive. That's why you never see instructions, because they would be simple to make.

Gary Johnson

This guy had a Bachelor of Science degree. Cool.

And then he creates a fucking construction company out of nowhere. "Mechanical contractor". OK.

>A mechanical contractor works on all of the mechanical systems of a building...Plumbing, Heating/Air, and I believe some electrical as well.
-
>Mechanical Contractors deal with HVAC=Low voltage wiring/Plumbing/Programing Circuits and repairs more into the commercial field.
-
>Mechanical contractors handle piping, electric (low/line),
controls, ductwork, associated with the installation of mechanical systems (chillers/boilers/pumps/drives/cogens)

http://www.contractortalk.com/f11/definition-mechanical-contractor-27832/

OK, nice. And out of nowhere his ONE-GUY COMPANY gets a 38 million contact from Intel. Cool.
With that money, the guy -which is intelligent- manages to grow the company.

>>1296201

>write book on how to become rich
>naive faggots buy your book
>????????
>become rich

>accourate
>appreceate
>They bank account balance
>money coming in and money coming out
>And better of all
>YOU ARE NOT HELPING ME BEING RICH

Grade: F
See me after class.

Here's a tip: Get a fucking education and learn how to spell and you'll be a lot closer to making more money. You're welcome.

>you are now aware that most CEOs grew up in the lower middle class, and were simply driven to be over achievers based on their childhood experiences of want

>>1296341
No I'm not you fucking imbecile.

>>1296319
and?

I didn't say that physical labor was the only thing required for wealth. Digging a hole in your backyard and filling it back up, ad-nauseum, forever won't make you rich.

But sitting on your ass complaining about how you aren't rich won't either.

>>1296329
Are you trying to say all rich people are involved in a conspiracy?

>>1296201
My Grandparents were white collar employees for a large company. They were all college educated and worked their way up the ladder.

My mother worked her ovaries off getting degrees in marketing and psychology then an MBA from a good business school back when that meant something. She worked her way into upper management for a large pharmaceutical company.

My father got his BS then MS in aeronautical engineering, worked, went back to get his MBA and became a manager. He's now upper management for a very large defense contractor.

The household in which I grew up is in the top 1%.

I was sent away to a private boarding school, got my first BS, worked, got a second BS, and am now doing the MS/MBA thing. I'd like to do what my father did/does but in a different industry. This is on top of working as an intern with mom's company for almost every summer of my high school and college career, even the year of high school in Germany.

>>1296319
is totally right though. Hard work doesn't equal money. My parents were born into comfortably upper middle class families that had the disposable income to pay for their educations without incurring massive debt. Same goes for me being born to a family that could afford my lengthy education.

My family is comfortably in the top 1%, but we're intensely aware of how precarious that position is. One pink slip or fuck-up at work and it's all gone. We're upper management, not CEO's. We're the modern version of petty nobility that is always closer to destitution than we are to the crown.

>>1296352
Well it's true.

Most of them don't mention that shit because inheritance, background, and blind luck almost always play a huge role (the last one always plays a huge role).

>>1296329
reading comprehension fail

He was already incorporated when they got the big contract. He already had employees.

>Having put himself through school with a string of construction jobs, Johnson began his own handyman and remodeling business. His break came a decade later, when Big J Enterprises, by then doing commercial work, got a hefty chunk of a huge Intel plant expansion.
>The deal swiftly took Johnson's revenues from $1.5 million to $38 million, sparking a classic small-business crisis.

>>1296395
It's not possible for everyone to be rich. Luck will always be an element. If you never do anything to put yourself in a position where that luck has a chance to pay off, then you will never be rich.

>buying a lottery ticket does not apply

One of the easiest ways to get rich is to take up a career in sales - particularly in large industrial equipment.

Most salesmen earn a commission for their sales, which is a percentage of the total sale. On a large piece of equipment your commission can be many thousands of dollars.

Now, all you have to do is not be a retard and live within your means. Do NOT exceed your base salary, and pour your bonuses into investments that generate more money (high yield dividend stocks, tax liens, rental properties, royalties).

Just keep increasing your cash flow and reduce your expenses as much as reasonably possible.

>>1296201
You need luck and hard work

Real hard work and really big luck alone won't be enough.

First you will need to be born into a rich enough family that can pay your university spendings, and give you enough "allowance" so you can keep a flat without much work to be able to completely concentrate on the studies. Then if you are really talented in a good university (as in "top 10 percent, and every prof wants your dick" good) then a big company or businessman might want to hire you. Then you work your ass off, get high in the corporate ladder, then make big deals and business choices when you are there. It usually helps if you understand law and business.

That's the most plausible way one can get really rich from relatively low standing point. Or you could have an invention or be fast enough to exploit something new (like Zuckenberg or Bill Gates), but you will still need money and talent to do that. Or win the lottery, but then you will probably lose that money fast. Or inherit a ton of money from your relatives and let your connections put you in the right positions - you will still need talent though. One other way is to be born into a small, enclosed area, like a small town, and get into a useful government position - let your family members (there will always be someone in a small town, "you are my favourite brother of my son-in-law's fiancé's friend I'll let you take a slice from the railroad dispute wink-wink"), exploiting the local poor with their help will give you big money, but not multi-billionaire big money.

Or you can just release a book titled "How to be rich"

start a green company, get huge debt, slush the money to an offshore account, let obama pay your debt

>>1296436
You will never make more money than Justin Bieber doing that.

>>1296471
>First you will need to be born into a rich enough family that can pay your university spendings, and give you enough "allowance" so you can keep a flat without much work to be able to completely concentrate on the studies.

If getting rich doesn't require hard work, why are you still poor?

>this guy still believes
>rich and megawealthy are the same thing
>billion dollar yearly income
>networth over 10 million
>this guy thinks its the same thing

>>1296435
Somewhat invalidates the idea that the capitalist system is fair. If luck plays such a huge part, that means that there will be plenty of hard workers with good ideas who will fail utterly through no fault of their own.

>>1296471
Or you can write one rap song like Soulja Boy and become more wealthy than all the PhDs in the world could get you.

>>1296368

That was helpful.

Still I believe that the best way to get rich is to fool some investors into giving you some money for some kind of crazy project. It's easy to make projects when you have 50 million dollars invested into them.

It's very hard to get 50 million $ for your project if you live in India, even if you have an IQ of 150 points and a succesful career.
That's why some people move to Silicon Valley.

It's very hard to get decent money in Europe too. Maybe that's why all the big BIZ's are in the USA. In the EU you can only start very small and then grow, but you can't start big here. Where is our Intel? Where is our Microsoft? Our Apple? Our Google?

In order to get the money you have to fool someone to get the money first, then make the business. Never spend your own money if you don't have it. Only spend money after you are rich. Say you want to create a new big business and you are already rich. Spend 10 millions of your own and get the other 40 million from the bank or investors. Then recover your money first. So if the business fails, you don't lose money.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suze_orman#Career

>>1296471
>implying that no one gets rich without being nefarious

First op, you need to define rich.

>>1296493
because you left out luck

>>1296500
We never said it was fair. Capitalism, like life, isn't fair. That's why it's the most natural and scalable system.

The better question is will being rich mean you live a rewarding life? Enjoy spending all your best years kissing ass and working hard on things that have no personal meaning to you (or worse, are destructive, like the fag in here who wants to be a military contractor).

Sure, money can buy some happiness, but not all of it. Simple pleasures are the most lasting.

>>1296500
>fair

No economic system is fair. No economic system will make everyone rich.

>>1296511
>implying that album sales
>get him any more than single digit cent amounts from every dollar
>and that there isnt a huge amount of marketing and investment that he has to pay for
>you think 1 million dollars is a lot

>>1296522
>>1296522
>why im a loser
>bad luck
>2012
>still blaming others for being a fuckup

>>1296543
Who said I want everyone to be rich? I'd much rather abolish the upper and lower classes.

>>1296558
But it is luck

If there was a fool proof way to become rich, everyone would do that

>>1296550
1 million isn't but he has 22
http://www.celebritynetworth.com/richest-celebrities/rappers/soulja-boy-net-worth/

>>1296567
>I'd much rather abolish any incentives to do well or avoid abject failure.

Good luck with that.

>>1296577
>still disregarding the hard work prerequisite

>>1296585
>implying 22 million is money

>>1296608
You need both, that's the point

>>1296617
Chump change.

>>1296604
Yeah, where did all this free software come from? No one does anything good for free or because they enjoy doing it.

>>1296512
Yeah. You have to realize that one of the primary problems with capitalism is that it lacks a lot of foresight.

Though things like venture capital exist, they generally invest in things that will turn a relatively short term profit.

We live in the era of big science. There are really only two ways a modern developed economy can truly grow: innovation or selling off natural resources. The rest is just marginal growth rates from shuffling around money or marginal increases in efficiency/output in some sector or another.

For the most part, we're starting to reach the peak of what an economy can do with just one planet and fossil fuels.

The next big revolution is going to be harvesting power and resources from the solar system. We're also going to need to "man-up" as a species and confront the realities of nuclear power if we have any intention of maintaining industrial civilization at anything approaching where it is today.

>>1296608
There are people currently labouring in such a manner that they'll be crippled by the time they reach their 40s, why aren't they rich?

>>1296617
Oh ok hot shot, what do you have to say now?

>>1296628
The issue is this:
We're spending money like crazy to keep the economy afloat. Prevailing wisdom says the deficit spending is to ensure economic growth so that we can pay off the debt later.

>If we stop spending, the (anemic and largely superficial) growth stops.
>If we keep spending as we're doing (bailouts, subsidy to shitty pet projects, etc.) then the economy won't grow enough to pay off the crippling debt later on in the future.

The only two solutions that I can see are either SEVERE austerity measures that will impact quality of life and ultimately lead to economic downturn as energy and raw materials supplies dwindle

or

Investment/subsidy in high technology and space exploitation. The only way to meet the growth targets necessary for this deficit spending binge to not end in disaster is to dramatically change our economic reality.

Wealth is monarchical. You need to be either born rich or be lucky as fuck.

>>1296645
I didn't know Soulja boy was in Toy Story

its because the jews

>>1296677
Didn't you see the scene where he was telling Woody about "muh dick"?

>>1296604
Honestly if I didn't have to work so much for basic necessities, I'd be contributing a lot more of my time to the common good. You underestimate how much work people are willing to put in to help eachother out, or for their own interests. Most people don't choose a career merely based on how much money they will earn, that's only a small aspect of it.

>>1296661

http://futuretimeline.net/

You are welcome.

>>1296643
see
>>1296359
and stop asking me to repeat myself.

Which has a bigger chance?

Being rich from pure luck and hard work

OR

Winning a lottery and not be a dumb fuck to give it all to the first redneck hooker?

>>1296319
Hi my name is Governor Rick Perry. I grew up a poor farmer. Went to Texas A&M and joined the corps. Eventually I got into politics after learning how to take money from lobbyists i became a very rich man.

>>1296759
The odds change dramatically depending on what you mean by rich. At the highest ends of the economic scale, the lottery becomes substantially more likely.

>>1296779
>I grew up a poor farmer
Did your family farm cars?

And I'm pretty sure Texas A&M isn't Harvard

>>1296779
So, he didn't get rich through hard work. He got rich by abandoning a lifestyle of hard work to become a political prostitute.

>>1296731
I'll look into it.

I want to make the future, or at least have a hand in it.

If I ever reach a position like my dad's, I'd draw up a plan to use an Orion drive to capture a Trojan orbit asteroid in Earth's orbit. Granted, this would require that a private corporation be granted the use of nuclear devices.

I'd also like to see neighborhoods become smarter places. Grey wastewater could be treated using algae photobioreactors that also churn out either fuel or feed for aquapoinc farming. Solar, wind, fuel cells for storage, and localized fast neutron reactors could all play a part in making neighborhoods more independent of the grid and more sustainable.

>I have so many ideas that I think are good
>Unfortunately, I will never become the Emperor of Man, so I'll never have the power to make them all real

>Any rich people here?
Hello
>Can you write down you bank account balance at 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, etc. and explain where you got the money?
$5000, $2000, $10,000,000
Father wrote me a cheque
>And where do you live?
Australia in an estate thirty minutes drive away from the CBD
>And which political ideology do you have?
Libertarian

>>1296808
Your point being? the point of this thread is how not if it's moral.

http://www.dailywealth.com/1949/A-Real-Retirement-Plan-for-the-Unwealthy

>>1296903
Hard work had fuck all to do with him getting rich. That's my point.

>Any rich people here?
Yes.
>Can you write down you bank account balance at 15, 20, 25, 30, 35, 40, etc. and explain where you got the money?
15 - $10k (would you trust a 15 year old girl to spend money wisely?)
20 - $1.1M ($1M from my father, $100k earned myself & previously saved)
>And where do you live?
USA
>And which political ideology do you have?
I'm split between paleoconservatism and national socialism.

I can't believe faggots who have a million dollars can't think of anything better to do than post on 4chan.

Hard work will never get you rich today.
Win the lottery, be a trust fund baby, or get a shitty job and invest in mutual funds or stocks.

>>1296965

>paleoconservatism and national socialism.

What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>1296975
Sometimes you just want to mingle with the subhumans, see how it is, but not to deep, 4chan offers such a service for free.

>>1296984
>never

it's a bit early for school to be out

>>1296998
he's trolling

jesus you're easy

>>1296998
Seeing smart people makes me support libertarianism/paleoconservatism more.
Seeing dumbfucks makes me support national socialism more.

There's a whole lot of dumbfucks.

>>1296882
>Father wrote me a cheque

How did your father get the money?

>>1296965
>20 - $1.1M ($1M from my father, $100k earned myself & previously saved)

How did you earn the 100k$ and how did your father get the money?

>>1296965
>$100k earned myself
how?

>>1297017

There's AnCaps posting on /pol/

Real ones.

>>1296975

Apart from not having to struggle to survive and not worrying what each day will bring it's pretty much the same. You can't go skydiving everyday.

Then again, I'm an INTJ killjoy and have been most of my life. The only thing really left is working out how to make more money and fuck around.

>>1297023

alma can i fuck you with my SS uniform on?

>>1297027
A few thousand from buying and selling buttcoins, most of the rest from working as an independent contractor.

>>1297025
>how did your father get the money?
Running distribution/import companies.

>>1297042
>Apart from not having to struggle to survive and not worrying what each day will bring it's pretty much the same.

In which case it's not the same at all. The only reason I can't have as many interesting hobbies or travel or go out often is I'm working so much. The only reason I'm on 4chan is because most of my energy is spent working. I would do something fucking awesome if I was sitting on a million dollars instead of a wage-slave.

I'm not rich, I just have $5000 in savings, $3000 of which is in stocks. I'm either really lucky or I have the hang of investing because I've made $1200 in the 6 months total that I invested (not contiguous, I stopped for school and have started up again).

I think I'll keep doing it and once I have an actual income I'll start raking in some real money

>>1297065
>independent contractor

but what exactly, be more specific; this makes no sense unless you worked for 5 years straight or something

>$1.1M
>rich

pick one

>>1297099
I'll pick your [spoiler]doubles[/spoiler]

>>1296965

so then this isn't you?

>>1297065
>Running distribution/import companies.

Importing cheap shit from China, you mean?

how make money? ;_;

>>1297157

Look at me! Look at me! I am a douchebag!

>>1297166
Convert your labor to capital in the form of money through employment. Save leftover capital. Spend saved capital designing/obtaining a means of production or invest is someone else's means. Reap profit. It's simple.

>>1297025

He's a venture capitalist, founding businesses, turning them profitable, then selling them to the stock market. It doesn't really matter the industry, there are opportunities practically everywhere if you've the skill to reap from them. Still, some you loose, some you win. Its lots of work despite what some may say, averaging about a sixty hour week. I'm not sure I have the ability but I will give it a shot when I gain some experience.

It isn't a big long line of inheritors either, my father started as the second youngest of seven brothers, whose father was a low-ranking soldier crippled in WW2. Me? I fear I've grown weak from prosperity, looking into the military as a possible solution to that.

OP, the very nature of your questions shows to me that have serious misconceptions about the nature of wealth. Most millionaires in America did not inherit it, they earned it.
Becoming wealthy in America is very simple. So is losing weight. ( eat less exercise more) yet most people can't do what is required. It is so deceptively simple that when people fail to achieve it, the simply cannot fathom that it may be their own fault. Like being fat, they make excuses and blame others.

I was born in a lower middle class family. Raised in a single-parent household. My first job was minimum wage@ $3.25 an hour. I started working when I was 13 years old. Weekends only. Rode my bike, rain or shine. I bought CDs with ALL of my money (that's certificates of deposit for you young-asses). I did not graduate high school. I went to work full time when I was 17. I did not buy a car even though I had more than enough money in th bank to buy on by that time.
I rented a garage to live in until I was 20.
I've worked blue collar jobs since then. At every one of those jobs i've done everything in my power to excel.

Now I'm 40 years old. I work part time and have money to spare.
The secret is incredibly simple: earn interest instead of paying it. This requires a level of self-control that very few Americans have.

>>1296512

Yea right, as if anyone would just
throw 50 mil on your lap because
you charmed them or some crap.
never borrow from banks,
the conditions for the loans are ridiculous,
if they start asking for personal things
as collateral, stop it right there.
An incorporated business and the owner are separate
individuals, if you get hooked to become collateral
for your own business you are a stupid fuck.
This leaves the problem of banks not wanting
to loan you shit because you got no collateral to cover
it all with. So how to get money? Private investors?
Good luck with that buddy, only people that would
wanna do that are millionaires and billionaires,
know any personally lower cast slave? No?
Well fuck you, it's Quicky-Mart for you slave!
Start small and get butt fucked and
get nowhere cause every damn field of
business is monopolized. The sector is saturated,
there is no middle class to buy your shit anymore,
all the good paying jobs went to china and India,
even university jobs are being shipped to India.
You live in a country where you can never be top dog,
your small business will never grow,
because your prices are going to be too high,
you cannot compete with the monopolies.
What's left? You could try to compete with
Juden ran banks, try your hand at drug dealing,
or try to start an industry of some sort,
albeit that one requires quite a bit of know how and
Capital investment... money seems to be the biggest
issue doesn't it Goyim?

>>1297263
but i dont think this is realistic today

where am i going to make real profit from being employed?

The deeper truth, although it may seem petty to all of you is that getting rich is entirely luck based. People think they are working hard and it's paying off, they attribute the payoff to the hard work but it's their only correlation.

It's like how sometimes you try hard and go nowhere and other times you do nothing and somehow things work out, and again, finally, other times you try hard and things work out and so you think it's because you tried hard. This is how life works but people just like to think they worked hard or simply think correlation causation is logical.

Sometimes people "worked hard" as in they invented something or started a business but you can't say it was as hard for them, the truth is that it was easier for them than other people and that's how they accomplished it and others did not.

I also would not be mad if I felt like rich people were simply carrying the bigger load for me but it feels more like they are just better at cheating at hard work, it's not always obvious but everyone above you has had it easier than you, that's what you learn when they truthfully devolve their secrets.

>>1297282
That isn't really wealth, it's just better retirement through lowering your standard of life.

>>1297282

Not all of us are Americans, broski.
In my country the average wage is something like 1200€. And the unemployment is fucking high.
>Move to America.
As if I could. Maybe I can, in 10 years.

I suppose I could manage to live a decent life and be confortable with money by the time I am 70. But I don't want to live in the rat's race.

And the rich oligarchy in my country won't let new people in.

>>1296984

This very mentality will keep you in poverty.
The Average American wi earn far mote than $1 million in their lufetime and not have a damn thing to show for it because they can't stop themselves from buying useless crap from China on credit.
There is no excuse why you can not be wealthy in America. Your own greed is the biggest barrier.

>>1297304
Note that I didn't say you go straight from employment to profit. You have to invest or produce. Even if you earn a pathetic wage, >>1297282 is an example of the necessary sacrifice you might have to make.

>>1297379
invest what?

you cant even find a job that covers more than your basic needs these days

Excuses, excuses, excuses... That's all I hear.

>>1297407
Okay I'm not going to hold your hand through the entire thing. If you don't want to invest in someone else, produce so others might invest in you. It's not very complicated.

>>1297445
>produce

>with 0 starting capital

HURRRRRRRRRRR

>>1297439
>Excuses, excuses, excuses... That's all I hear.

Are you rich? Tell us your story.

>>1297276

Not a bad idea, start small businesses, then sell em,
Make your money that way.

The pro: make lots of money
(scam the bastards on good will)
(Yes, I studied accounting)

The con: Lots of fucking work,
the people you employed will probably
loose employment due to retards running the
businesses after ur gone.
If you have an all white workforce, and you are
a national socialist, that might cause a moral
dilemma for you...
You may however recompense yourself by
either donating to, or better yet, starting a movement
yourself. Nothing like carving up a country for your
own personal gain, oh, and for the betterment of the white race of course...

>>1297445

Finally! Someone who gets it!

>>1297449
Hey, it's okay if you're dumb. Even if your too dumb to read that I said you need to labor for capital if you don't already have any.

>>1297490
>you need to labor for capital

and im telling you that thats impossible.

theres no money in labor.

So, I've been thinking.

Right now I'm in college and I have around 12K in loan debt. However I am investing my savings in stocks, I'm definitely getting more than the 6.8% interest the loans are accruing. After a few months of on and off investing I've made 40% realized gain on my investment, but who knows how long I'll keep that up.

Should I keep doing what I'm doing? I can't really get a job during the school year or I'd not be able to focus on school.

>>1297502
I get the feeling I'm just wasting my time. Enjoy your lack of success.

ITT: poorfags want to get rich over night, and any attempt to tell them that wealth building takes time is completely lost on them.

>>1297528
how much time then?

ill have something like 13$ left after the end of the week

how many weeks until i have enough capital

>>1297162
Not necessarily china, shit from all over the world.

>>1297090
IT work. I really can't say more than that.

>>1297528

The secret is choosing the right field that will
reap big money in a relatively short time span,
say a few months, a year max. It can be done,
I saw it done.

>>1297517
With 12k in student debt, you've pretty much fucked yourself out of ever being wealthy

>>1297540
If you want to build capital faster, decrease your expenses by lowering your quality of life and cutting unnecessary spending.

>>1297572
all i pay for is internet and rent

what do you want me to cut?

>>1297517
talk to a finance professor. why would you ask /pol/, god dammit man.

>>1297563

Good one. I'm fucking commuting from my house and pirating books on the internet and I still needed those loans.

>>1297572

I guess you never lived on minimum wage brotha.
it ain't the 1950ies anymo foo.

>>1297540

Weeks!?!?!!? Oh, stop! I'm going to hurt myself laughing!

>>1297578
Ideally, you could get a new job with better wages.
If that isn't an option for whatever reason, move into a cheaper house and cut off the internet.

>>1297578
>implying there's absolutely nothing at all you can save money on
Americans are so indoctrinated in consumerism they'll never get out.

just buy the secret, bro.

>>1297599
>new job with better wages.

non existant

>move into a cheaper house

non existant

>>1297589
what's a good place for books?
i've got one book this semester that retails for $250, jesus god damn christ.

>>1297605

you don't need the military,
try living off nothing but 500$ a month.

go, do it, I double dare you.
That'll open your damn eyes a bit.

See how quickly you dip your hand
in the cookie jar for more money.

"hurr durr it's the consumerism you need to get rid of".
honey, this is about SURVIVAL, no extra money to
throw away for an i-pod or a brand new laptop.

>>1297629
THEN BE HOMELESS. FFS >>1297282 LIVED IN A FUCKING GARAGE TO ACQUIRE FINANCIAL SECURITY.

I'd like to write a book "How to get rich selling "How to get rich" books".

1. Convert to Jewish faith
2. Get told all the secret plans to control the goyim
3. Get installed as one of the global elite bankers
4. ?????

>>1297624

HAHAHAHAHA

Woah guys whoah, I KNOW you're not saying that self-help books are just made to turn a profit!

>>1297651
Then why do the poor buy shit they don't need like alcohol and TVs?

>>1297670
don't write it, illustrate it; ala i want my hat back
just find some hipster artist pay him bread penies
get the rest to yourself

>>1297654

Why you mad? Because you made it when
Great depression numero dos did not exist?

not the 20th centry anymo bra.
We live in the brave new world now,
21st century, poverty everywhere.

>>1297703
see
>>1297525

>>1297689

Hits head against wall in frustration...

Like I told you, try to live the type of life the poor live,
you will realize that only
working, eating, shitting and sleeping don't cut it.
in any case, most poor people I know of personally
don't got no plasma LCD screens, they got old throw
away pieces of shit they found lying on the street.

Like I said, try living like they live,
calculate minimum wage where you are,
times it by 37 hours, cause no place will give you 40
out of fear of paying overtime. Deduct taxes.
Try to live off of it. Do it for as long as you can.

If you really wanna play the pretend game to
the fullest, instead of living off your
1.1 million allowance, get an actual minimum
wage job. The experience will put the real world
into perspective for you.

>>1297723

watch this you idiot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_UTGh5iMXtc&feature=player_embedded

>>1297805
Cry me a fucking river.

Actually, why don't you make assumptions about me and personally attack me instead?
I heard that is a great a plan for success.

>>1297764

YOU'RE NOT LISTENING!
some of us are trying to tell you that we dod exactly that... For years and years.

Every generation thinks they have it the worst. I'm telling you that I lived for years on minimum wage. I ate shit. I worked two jobs while in school. I often had less than 4 hours of sleep a night. This is the way things have always been. If anything, you have it better these days.

Its hard to write a book about "How mommy and daddy's investments gave me a privileged lifestyle".

Most self help is justification for the way things are. Cause/correlation is lost when dealing with 'success'.

>>1297992
If you've lived through hard times, how can you rebuke them so?

I assume you are a capable person, and yet you lived shit conditions. Why would you want to continue shit conditions for people?

>>1298175

I don't. I wish things were different. But they aren't.
The problem is that whenever i'm asked for the secret of my success, all I ever get in return is excuses.
Everybody thinks they are different. They're not.

I tried to make a difference. I was a teacher for a while. I honestly thought I could help kids avoid the mistakes i made. But they went and did exactly what I taught them not to.

I tried to be an employer for a while. I thought that if I could just give some people a chance ro learn a marketable skill, like I learned, that they would have a better chance. I couldn't find a single person who would even make a half-ass effort to show up regularly.

I'm jaded and frustrated with trying to help people who won't even help themselves.
I guess that's what you get after decades of government education and entitlement programs.

ITT: Extreme butthurt.

Can't make it. Blame the system.
Hate on those who did make it.

This, and nothing more.

I'm poorfag and don't give a fuck. I hope rich people enjoy life with their riches. I do without.

True story.

>>1298393
Alot of people cant keep their shit together. Everyone suffers and passes it on and it leads to fucked up shit.

But offering those jobs, trying to teach some kids...that shit matters. Little ripples make a difference. Access to chances to bring yourself up is what makes real impact on the world. Its too bad so few fully utilize the opportunity, but such is life.

>>1298591

The single greatest advice I can give is to NEVER use credit to buy anything that can't be reasonably expected to appreciate in value.

I frequently taught my students that debt was financial suicide. That debt put them on the fast track to misery.

Yet again and again I'd see them driving brand new vehicles after graduation. Often, It was only a year or two and they were complaining that they were trapped by their debt.

I see good advice in this thread where others see complaining. Interesting, interesting indeed.

The nose knows

There is a fundamental difference in the way that people with a wealth mindset vs. people with a poverty mindset view money.

If asked "what is money for?", most people will reply: "to buy things".
If you ask a wealth-minded person, they will tell you that money is a tool.

The younger you are, the more severe the impact of bad financial decisions. It almost always starts with the car. Let's say you buy a car at age 18. It's $6,000. You finance for 3 years at 16% interest. It will cost you $210 per month. Sometimes a wise person will point out that the car will cost you $7600 after interest.

I'd take it a step further though. Had you invested $200 per month at 3-1/2% interest for just 3 years & never touched it again, you would have $35,000 at age 65. SOOOOooooo. That car really cost you not only $7,500 for the car, but also over $27,400 in earning potential.
THAT is how wealthy people view money.

Now add on the credit card debt, student debt and all-around wasted money that young people piss away and you an see why they will be poor their whole life.

>>1296201
>Tell me everything about how you received wealth
>It won't spoil you're secrets

Yep. You see, if the wealthy want to continue being wealthy/get more wealthy, they will NEVER share with more people their success. It all comes down to scarcity my friend. The fundamental law of economics.