Welcome to Edward Bernays handiwork.

Not having a job causes more stigma now than axing your Grandma in her sleep would.

It's because this generation chose to study in fields with little work potential

art degrees just don't cut it in today's society. There is still a demand for people with an expertise in things like language, science, economics, law, etc... the problem is less and less people are intelligent enough to obtain those degrees.

say it's not a free country? they were free to make the choice to study something that challenged their intellect and proved they were capable of responsibility.

>>117955
So the 9% unemployment is really just a bunch of people deciding to become lazy and we have no right to blame Obama for it

>The United States rolls the dice and lands on Boardwalk that J.P Morgan has been stacking hotels on since 1900.
>Sorry fuckers.... that comes out to $700 billion this time around.
>GET A FUCKING JOB YOU LAZY MOTHERFUCKERS OR YOU WON'T HAVE ANY MONEY TO PAY ME THE NEXT TIME AROUND!

Except of course their is a glut of science and engineering students relative to good paying science and engineering jobs in this country

Ditto for econ

VERY few jobs actually need a specialized degree. Corporations and universities perpetuated the lie that they are necessary

>>117955

see

>OMFG GET A JOB YOU LAZY FUCK!

your argument is invalid

McDonalds and Taco Bell are always hiring. You just need to get off your high horse and apply. The reason our unemployment numbers are still so high is because retards like you don't want to settle for anything that doesn't pay as much as whatever old job you had.

>>117987
9% unemployment is people collecting unemployment checks because going back to work would be a waste of time when they get paid anyways.
ACTUAL unemployed people aren't counted.

>>118006
We aren't going to fix the economy by selling hamburgers to each other. Telling everyone to shovel coal for what little wealth is left floating around out there is retarded.

>You are just too lazy to shovel this coal into this furnace for an honest days wages.
>I don't agree with the heading of the ship. I don't want to shovel the coal in that causes it to move in this direction.
>COMMUNIST LAZY SOCIALIST HIPPIE!

>>118017

yep living the high life on unemployment, medicaid

>>118017
>he thinks unemployment checks even pay enough for an adequate lifestyle.

>>118062
But that's not what they're saying. They're saying "Nobody is offering me a position to shovel coal". Of course, in actuality, many of these people could get jobs, they just prefer the free time to the wages they'd get paid at their skill level (low).

>>118006
>wrong things

McDonald's last employment event had 50,000 jobs up for grabs.

They got more than a MILLION applicants.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-04-28/mcdonald-s-hires-62-000-during-national-event-24-more-than-
planned.html

>>118101
Depends entirely on where you live.

Also, to the OP, people in finance work far more than an average american work week

>>118129
keep telling yourself that, what ever helps you sleep an night

There are a surplus of petroleum engineering jobs available in the western and gulf states. Are you too lazy to get a petroleum engineering degree? Are you too lazy to move to another state?

Attention first world citizens:

You are now competing with niggers and gooks that are willing to do your job for a cup of rice a day.

That was all.

>>118146
you sir are a genius

there sure are a lot of jobs in X
study for years and rack up thousands in debt to learn how to do X
all the positions in X are filled

there sure are a lot of jobs in Y
study for years and rack up thousands in debt to learn how to do Y
all the positions in Y are filled

>>118145
No, I actually investigated it. I was offered admission to Wharton, which I applied for with the intent of becoming an Investment Banker. However, I did some reading and found that the average IB work week was over 80 hrs for the first 2 years and over 60 hrs for the rest of my career. Fuck that, said I, and I went to Stanford to take math.

>>118183
I'd rather have a degree in X or Y than the OP's degree in Roman History.

>>118133
people are giving up, less applicants per job but also less demand for goods and services means less jobs offered.

>blame evil corporations for lack of jobs
>don't realise it's minimum wages that create such huge amounts of unemployment

OWS logic

>>118202
It really depends what you mean by "work".

If you mean "making phone calls, going out to lunches, hiring strippers, attending meetings, and playing facebook games", then yes people in the financial industry work 80 hours a week.

>>118146
80% of petroleum engineers are hired from within the company. I know this from being a petroleum engineer. No fucking reputable drilling company is going to hire a kid right our of college if they have people with 20-30 years of drilling experience lined up. Protip: They all do.

>>118006
Professionals taking shit-tier retail jobs is actually counterproductive in the long run. These individuals would be better off gaining certifications during periods of unemployment.

>>118202
yes, sitting at a desk answering phones is such hard work

>>118218

Yep. Businesses can't hire more employees until people start buying more stuff, but there aren't enough consumers because so many are unemployed.

>>118129

this. everyone thinks people in finance are lazy and work for 4 hours before leaving early to sail on their yacht. people in finance work one of the most high stress environments and work far longer than the average person.

http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/what-are-entry-level-hedge-fund-jobs-like

>>118266
>I get to decide when people are working, not the employers who pay them

Makes perfect sense bro

this bitch just quit at subway, you should come take her place

create 14 million unemployed between 2007-2009

create 9.1% unemployment

create corporate welfare

complain about poor people

complain about welfare

say people are unemployed due to being lazy

>>people in finance work far more than an average american work week

Where is the financial sector getting their info about how long the rest of us work? I keep hearing about how these high finance guys work these long hours and everybody else is just a lazy fuck, but I did 60-90 hrs a week in my cabinet business. The work was labor intensive, then the paperwork had to be done as well. I'd like to see some desk jockey hang with me when the back pain and shit sets in. When I got to my desk, it felt like on break...Lots of people are working multiple jobs with no benefits because businesses only want to hire part time in order to avoid paying for benefits as well. Even the 9-5ers often work second jobs, especially if they have families.

It's getting a little old hearing the hedge fund crowd try to justify the fortunes they've acquired by gambling with our money by claiming we're all stupid and lazy.

>>118282
>>118287
Working long hours at a low stress job is commendable.

Try and get a school bus driving job. They train you to get a CDL then no matter what you'll have work that pays a little more than normal. People are always looking for drivers of some kind.

>>118322
Enjoy your permanently depressed wages. People are always looking for drivers but it's not like it's a hard skill to develop. The only qualification is not being a drunk.

>>118314
>low stress

yeah managing billions of dollars in assets is real low stress. especially when the margin for error for something like an growth rate or ROE is .000001

>>118312
American Labor Department surveys. Your hours and the hours of money management employees are above normal.

>>people in finance work one of the most high stress environments

According to whom? People who work in high finance? If you think trying to run a small business isn't high stress, you need to get a clue. Being unemployed is pretty fucking high stress as well.

>>118322
Driving 12-16 hours a day causes your brain to rot.

Not to mention people are going to have to compete with the meth addict that CAN drive 16 hours a day while a normal person would be too exhausted. I tried that shit. I got asked why I wasn't making as much progress as the meth addicts. I told them meth. They said 'Maybe you need to start doing meth than'. I left.

>>117955
>It's because this generation chose to study in fields with little work potential.

"I must study politics and war that my sons may have liberty to study mathematics and philosophy. My sons ought to study mathematics and philosophy, geography, natural history, naval architecture, navigation, commerce, and agriculture, in order to give their children a right to study painting, poetry, music, architecture, statuary, tapestry, and porcelain." - John Adams

Choice of study is hardly the problem. Keep that dumbfuck strawman to yourself and your echo chamber of retards.

>>118350
Using a computer is so hard and stressful.

>capital gains
>earned

>>118369
running a business is very high stress as well. infact I would make the argument that running a small business is the most high stress job there is after military service.

>>118389
your ignorance of finance and the vast populations ignorance of finance is actually laughable.

>>118408
maybe if you did something productive we would care more

>>118377
>some guy said that people should study useless arts shit so everyone should do it

listen, I don't care what people study. but when you study in art or philosophy KNOWING that the job market for those majors isn't good, don't bitch when its hard to find a job for them. I'm a finance major (junior in college) and have 2 internship interviews coming up already. Guess what majors both internships wanted? Finance, Accounting, Econ.

>>118377
>waaaah its not working out like John Adams said it would, waaaah

It is the duty of every individual to take a look at the world before they make a major life decision. Does it appear that there are a huge shortage of art history majors? If not, am I going to be in the top 2% of art history majors because of my tremendous passion, intellect and work ethic? If not, maybe I'll do something more practical, or at least, understand that my time in college is more of a lifestyle choice and if I graduate with bad job prospects, I will realize this is my fault and I will not complain.

>>118440
>KNOWING that the job market for those majors isn't good
you have never been to collage or university have you?

>>118434
>implying finance isn't important

so ignorant.

>>118460
no I have never been to collage. I am currently a college student though. hence why I said I was a junior finance major. Junior in COLLEGE.

>>118408
Your ignorance of proper punctuation is even more astounding.

>>118440
>some guy
>john adams

I guess in all your soon-to-be-worthless finance "training" you skipped history class. Fucking mongoloid.

>>118359
I didn't find much time to fill out surveys when I was at the shop for most of my waking life and part of my sleeping life. I assume it's the same for others who work long hours. Is it possible that the surveys do not accurately reflect the facts? Maybe it only really showed that people who work less hours (and maybe people who work at desks and answer their phones) are more likely to participate in surveys?

>>118478
oh good one dude, you got me there!

>>118479
actually I'm a history minor because I find history fascinating. I know who John Adams is.

>>118456
reasonable expectations do not apply to me, I'm a 25 year old hipster infant

>>118477
And when you graduate there will be few jobs in finance.
when I started collage qualified technical artists where in high demand, now they are not.

just because it is in demand now dose not mean it will be in demand when you graduate.

>>118490
I'm sure the federal statisticians never thought of that and that now all of their numbers have been invalidated by a cabinet maker.

>>117896
Work in the black market. When the world economy collapses, black market experience and exposure will be very valuable.

>>118545
>few jobs in finance

actually finance jobs are expected to grow. wall street jobs are shrinking but those aren't the only finance jobs. there are corporate finance positions, wealth management and financial consulting.

You idiot l!berals can't find jobs here in American cause you drove all the businesses and the rich away to other countries and now you cry.

OMG how will I live without minimum wage being $8.00/hour in caliPOORnia? Omg how will we live without taxing the RICH? Now we NEED employer funded healthcare!

Why are all the l!beral states so deep in debt and heading towards bankruptcy? They love big government so much. Tax the rich! Force businesses to pay for this and that. Businesses are RUNNING from these l!beral states to places like Texas which has no state income tax. That is why they are creating so many jobs. It won't be long before they run to other countries to avoid Obamacare.

Then the l!btards defend Obamacare because it creates a few hundred thousand jobs in the healthcare field, how many OWS have enough education or going to med school...to be employed in the medical field? Oh wait, more class warfare. The poor stay poorer and the rich that get to go to med school get employed. L!beralism is cancer. Wakeup.

>>118578
I was young and nieve at one time as well

>>118440

Ok, genius...why don't you tell me what to do while you are at it.

>Pre-Law, Honors Student
>3 semesters from my degree
>Get robbed by freshly paroled 39 year old career criminal room-mate
>No money, no textbooks, nothing.
>University does not give a fuck.
>Dorm company does not give a fuck.
>Police do not give a fuck.
>Cannot complete semester, lose Honors status and scholarships and financial aid eligibility.
>Run home to parents with tail between legs, try to find job, get back on my feet and back into school.
>fouryearslater.jpg
>Still no job.
>Credit is perma-fucked.
>Worsening credit report hurts my chances of finding employment, prolonged employment hurts my credit
>Downward spiral
>Not a single semester-hour closer to my degree.

By all means...what do I do now?

Inb4: "Call potential employers erryday", "Just keep looking", "you gotta apply for shitty jobs" and a bunch of other crap I've already tried.

>>118602
>minimum wage being $8.00/hour in cali
holy shit minimum wage is 7.50 here in Florida, you califags are rolling in dough!

>>118624
>naive

guess thats why I have 2 internship interviews coming up right?

>>118652
7.25 in SC and we aren't even guaranteed minimum wage

>>118628

I'll give you ten bucks to mow my lawn...

>>118628
I don't know if this is real or not. But there is no reason while getting robbed means you couldn't finish the semester...

>>117987

The 9% unemployment figure measures how many people are receiving unemployment benefits.

9% of US citizens had a job and then got fired and are on unemployment.

Real unemployment is MUCH higher. If you don't have a job for x amount of time, you're no longer considered unemployed even though you don't have a job.

9% is a fake figure to make you think things are a lot better than they are.

>>118657
>interviews
>internship

and if you are lucky they might tell others that they didn't hire you and are still free.

>>118628
>>118704
hell, I'll give ya 100 to suck my dick

>>118624
>Young and nieve

Wait are you talking about snow in Spanish?

>>118552
Right, because people who work with their hands must necessarily lack the intelligence to have any valid input, and statistics are NEVER manipulated by government agencies with agendas....

You say "a cabinet maker" as if it is meant as an insult, and this was not lost on me, so I'll assume you are either trolling or just an asshole in general, possibly both. I'm not even mad. I stand by my observation.

in my area all of retail and fastfood jobs are constantly full, I have absolutely no shot at getting a job there.

ive thought about using my wood working skills and make shit to sell on ebay, you know actually CONTRIBUTING to the gdp instead of just operating a cash register. has anyone operated a small business like this before? any tips or ideas?

>>118723
Phillies naughty dog

>>118713
I don't think you understand how finance internships work. You apply and hopefully get offered one for the summer between junior and senior year. They are all paid and if you do well/don't fuck up a job offer usually comes at the end of the summer.

>>118628
Rough, however, you should really have had more friends and contacts who would help you out in the event of something unexpectedly bad happening. If you had become close to one of your professors, I'm sure they would have been happy to help you out.


Gotta make friends, there's no way around it

>>118724
Insecurity on your part, go read the post again

>>118705

It's real.

>no reason while getting robbed means you couldn't finish the semester...

Perhaps you missed this part
>No books, no money, nothing.

He cleaned me the entire dorm out over Spring Break. Everything of value, gone.

How do you propose I complete a semester with no textbooks and no money?

>>118755
these are interviews, you are amusing that you getting in is a sure thing, which it isn't

>>118737
>any tips or ideas?

Make adult-sized baby beds for diaper-fetishists

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/meet-the-adult-baby-sen-coburn-just-asked-the-govt-to-investigate/

>>118737
in my area I applied to every fast food restaurant in town, they were all full, but I still sent in my applications/resume or w/e & I did this for months and I finally got a call from one of them 4 months later and got the interview & then the job

people come in there all the time and ask if we're hiring and I say no, but tell them they can fill out an application and if we do need to hire our manager will call them in the future, but so far nobody has filled any out

>>118786
your right, its not a sure thing at all. my point was that finance jobs are there. which they are considering that companies are interviewing for positions...

>>118652

Minimum wage only causes inflation. When joe blow with out a high school diploma gets 20 bucks for cleaning windows, everyone will be wiping their butts with dollar bills.

When minimum wage keeps rising, so will prices for everything, thus higher costs of living. So when a can of tuna used to cost 0.25 when minimum wage was 5.00/hour...now that tuna can costs a 1.00 with minimum wage at 8.00/hour. So Joe Blow gets more money in his paycheck, but he also has to pay more for everything around him.

I remember when a big mac was around $2.50, now it's $3.75...almost 4 dollars.

These retarded OWS want 20.00/hour minimum wage. lol Do they know how much more people will be unemployed when that happens? Do they know the prices of EVERYTHING will rise due to it? The market will fix itself. The dollar menu at Mcdonalds will be the 5 dollar menu or they will shrink all the food to be 1/4 of the size right now.

>>118760

>more friends and contacts

I thought I had, but they all turned out to be fair-weather friends.

>>118800
yes, jobs are there but open slots are not, don't kid yourself

>>118704

I'd do it.

Lawn-mowing currently represent the majority of what little positive income flow I do have...but winter's about to start and nobody gets anywhere mowing lawns.

>>118776

Yeah, that must be it. 2/10 for getting me to respond, dude.

wal-mart is hiring

they need all the help they can get for christmas

>>118876
They get all the help they need very quickly. They are called Mexicans.

An old saying in my town: "If your skin ain't brown, no jobs in this town".

>>118876
moving in all the shit they want people to buy then moving out all the shit nobody bought

>>118801
Inflation reduces real interest rates. So perhaps a little inflation is a good thing...
Also
>the market will fix itself.
sounds a lot like
>the free market will fix it

>>118801

All this happens whether there is a minimum wage or not. In fact, the minimum wage was actually instated as a response to the failure of wages to keep pace with inflation...The fact is that, as big business gets bigger, the concept of competition becomes a joke. Want to go into business for yourself and compete with the big guys? Good luck. They will take a temporary loss if necessary in order to out-compete you, and have the financial reserves to starve you out, putting you out of business. Then you can go to work for them, feeding the beast that slew you, but they aren't going to pay a living wage out of the goodness of their hearts. "You want what, medical insurance?" "A living wage?" Fuck you, here's your pink slip. I have a Chinese guy who will do your job for a bowl of rice..."

So, you think working on wall street is some cake walk filled with cocktails and caviar?

Well, if you want to be even remotely good at your job as an investor you need to:
- Continually analyze the PE ratio of any stocks you're interested, or may possibly be interested in in the future.
- Learn how to analyze charts, and then review them frequently
- Research a company from top to bottom, including: their current and future products, earnings estimates, balance sheet, income statements, quarterly filings, conference calls, and the market conditions for that sector. (And then do all the same for each one of that company's competitors).

And that's just if you're into stocks.
If you're involved with other investments like bonds or currencies there's a fuck ton of other stuff to research and consider.

>>118737
Just started my own business. I'm in the process of getting it off the ground.

Make sure invest some money in a good legal team who can set up the appropriate legal entity for you. In your case you'll probably want an LLC. It will protect you personally from any potential lawsuits, or credit problems.

>>118975
sounds like a computer could do you job for less, be prepared to be rendered obsolete

(but people can't be replaced by machines)

a computer use to be a job title now it is a thing, you are not safe!

>>118975
I don't think anyone is claiming is doesn't take skill and hard work to profit from driving a once great nation off a cliff.