why did it have to be a budget store, where she would stack shelfs among the lowest of the low, no wonder she felt violated..

they couldn't get her something at victoria's secret or sammy's chicken?

>poundland

>>1087935
>geology
>liberal arts

I know /pol/ is populated by slavs with the average IQ of about 75 but even you know better than that.

i'd take her to poundland if you know what i mean.

so they're forcing her to work for much less than minimum wage to keep her benefits? what

>Go to University
>Don't pursue work after University whilst at University by getting experience
>Wonder why you don't have a job

2 weeks???? Omg that is an outrage!!! Fucking female logic

>>1087970
>they couldn't get her something at victoria's secret or sammy's chicken?

Gotta be good looking to work at Victoria's Secret. But being that she's British, she's prob a solid 8 over there.

>unemployment
>volunteering

>50 pounds per week
>have to take unpaid work to keep your shitty 50 pounds per week? what?

why don't we just get rid of all this lunacy?

>Geology
>Liberal Arts

Not to mention

>Enforced unpaid work experience in a retail establishment that requires no proper product knowledge or proper sales technique when she was already doing something that not only related to her education, but also had a greater chance of acquiring experience that could have been applicable to other fields of work.

>>1088036
>>1088036
>>1088036
THIS.

sorry, what's wrong with geology, exactly?

>>1088027

Then the same people would complain about lack of welfare.

The current system is essentially a work program for those who cannot find a job. The woman thought that having to work for money violated her human rights.

>>1088036
You fucking lazy commie. It was 2 weeks required by the government which paid for her shitty education

Another moron who thinks she's entitled to a job.

Remove gun rights
Add socialism

=

United Muslim Ukindom

Look at that smug bitch. Stay ugly britfags

>>1088069
It's not that she thought having to work for money violated her human rights.

There are two possible options.

Volunteer for a Museum doing something related to her field.

Volunteer for Poundland, stacking shelves.

I'm not sure I see how the Poundland gig is inherently more valuable.

>>1088080
at least they are cracking down that trolling on the internet

>>1088106
>I'm not sure I see how the Poundland gig is inherently more valuable.

it's not. how is this anything but corporate welfare? they're forcing jobless to work for less than minimum wage with the promise of a job interview or possible job (which never materialized, according to the article) after the two week period of forced work.

>>1088079
>SHE NEEDS TO GET A JOB
>SHE THINKS SHE'S ENTITLED TO A JOB

Seriously?

>>1088068

Sheldon here. I thought we went over this already last season; it's not a real science. Rocks? Good lord, she may as well have gotten a degree in Art History. You're reading this in my voice, aren't you?

> /pol/ complaining about making welfare scum work for their free money

>>1088140
fifty pounds a week. was she working full time? how much less is this than minimum wage over there?

>>1088075
>lazy
>doing volunteer work that is related to her field of study in order to try to get a job that was relevant to her education

So she wanted to work at an unpaid placement while leaching off the government?

Sounds like a cunt.

What's her GPA?

> Complain Britain gives too much welfare money to leaches
> Cameron cracks down on leaches
> /pol/ complains

Will you ever make your mind up /pol/?

This is like the thread yesterday when people complained Cameron banned Muslims opening private schools to indoctrinate kids.

>>1088158
Related to her field of work that would increase her ability to get a job.

>>1088158
>So she wanted to work at an unpaid placement while leaching off the government?

>Sounds like a cunt.

So it makes more sense to have a shitty retailer leech off of the unpaid labor of someone who leeched off of the government.

Sounds like the institutional equivalent of a human centipede. The whole system is fundamentally retarded.

>>1088158
what the fuck am i reading

it's very worrisome that every other poster in this thread cannot see beyond "leeching off of the government"

>>1088195

She still wanted to leach off the government while doing it.

Either she should have signed off welfare to do the volunteer work or get a job and contribute.

>>1088226

That's probably because SHE'S LEECHING OFF THE GOVERNMENT.

>>1088235
Yes get a job that goes nowhere and provides you with no experience of any sort. That will prepare you for things right? I mean it's not like people need things like skills or experience you just need to clock in hours right?

>>1088254
i suppose various corporations leeching off of the forced work of 250,000 workers is better?

>>1088268

She should have been doing all the volunteer work while she was still at university, that's what normal people do and then they get jobs when they leave university.

>>1088270

No, it's not.

Nice try at attempting to deflect the conversation, though.

>>1088316
that's what the article in the op is about, you dumb shit.

I can't really blame her. If we're rich enough to manufacture consumer goods for <$1, we should be rich enough to abolish the majority of work.

>can't get a job with a Geology degree
How the fuck is that possible?
>volunteering in a museum so it would lead to a job
Oh, she wants to be a Paleontologist.

>>1088008
Why do only people in the UK have hair like that?

> Can't get a job
> Sue the government

This is what OWS fags are actually like.

>>1088331

Not really. It's about some whiny self entitled cunt who thinks she should get to live off the government and do whatever the fuck she wants in her free time.

The world would be a better place if some immigrant caved her skull in on the way to her shitty make work job.

>>1088359

Poor people have hair like that

>>1088389

Unemployed liberals on the dole have hair like that.

>>1088312
Kind of ignoring the vast amount of time and effort that you put into your degree, aren't you?

God damn it black people, can't you do anything right?

Leave the poor people to me.

>>1088401

Everyone else manages it.

Degrees with a higher workload usually offer sandwich years which is a 4 year course where you spend your 3rd year on the job.

i am sure there is some publicly funded geological surveying (or something related) she could have been assigned to, and even if she isn't really needed, it'd be good work experience for her.

instead, they put her in in... a retail chain stacking shelves? it's shameless forced labor that benefits no one but whatever corporations are getting these free employees to do whatever the fuck they want with.

>It's about some whiny self entitled cunt who thinks she should get to live off the government and do whatever the fuck she wants in her free time.

it's 50 pounds a week. can you "live" off of that?

>>1088453

No, which is good.

Cameron is turning welfare into a punishment, not a viable alternative to work.

>>1088453

Who in the living fuck cares if you can live off it.

She is a worthless excuse for a human being. She will always be a worthless excuse of a human being.

It would be cheaper, and better for everyone in the long run, if the government just let her starve to death on the streets.

>Poundland

Sounds like a porn movie.

2 weeks? That's what this is about? 2 weeks?

ennui and zenfag are the two most godawful tripfags on any chan, anywhere, and if you aren't ignoring them already you need to start doing so

The sheer lack of reading comprehension in this thread is astounding.

>It would be cheaper, and better for everyone in the long run, if the government just let her starve to death on the streets.
AND FAGGOTS LIKE YOU HONESTLY THINK THIS.

>>1088453
>force labor

No. She can turn it down.

She just can't turn down open jobs, while simultaneously collecting unemployment. This bitch just wants to set back and collect checks and not do anything for it.

Ah, all you morons too blinded by self-righteousness to realize that all these big retailers are capitalizing on the high unemployment by essentially getting the government to provide them slave laborers. They have no obligation to pay these 'volunteers' and just dump them after a certain period of time. Must be great for the bottom line.

Even better is the ignorance you display in thinking that the politicians who are responsible for this crap aren't getting huge kickbacks from Poundland, or Tesco, or whomever else is participating.

Why is everyone mad that that she got offered a job stacking shelves? Someone has to do that work. She can't find a job in her field...it happens. Why does she think that we should pay her to sit around until she does a find a job in that field--while there are open positions elsewhere that she can work until then?

>>1088479
how was 50 pounds a week ever a viable alternative to work

>>1088516
>2 weeks? That's what this is about? 2 weeks?

you didn't read the article at all, did you? it's about the forced labor of 250,000 people for much less than minimum wage if they want to keep their job seeker's allowance

this does nothing but line the pockets of whichever corporations these people are forced to work for and hurts their chances of finding a job in the future at the same time. why would they consider hiring even part time employees when there's a constant supply of free labor provided to them by the government?

>>1088576

You used to get more.

Before Cameron changed it you could shit out a few kids and live in a fully furnished house for your entire life without working.

>>1088575
She wasn't offered a job, the position is equivalent to that of a volunteer except that it's a requirement for continued collection of unemployment benefits. The problem with this is basically as >>1088576 stated.

> Forced labour
> She doesn't have to do it if she doesn't want to

I think you guys need to look up forced labour in the dictionary.

>>1088576
The people aren't forced to take these jobs. How is slavery.

Someone says "Hey, I have a job. This is what I pay". You can turn it down if it is unfair.

However, you can't keep turning down job offers and still call yourself a "job seeker".

So what you guys are saying is that she should be paid enough so she can sit on her ass and never have to work.

>>1088576
fifty quid a week on top of her job seekers' benefits.

"forced labour" - lol are you having a laugh? no one's forcing her to work. she's perfectly free to sit her arse at home with no benefits.

>>1088629
So she has to actually work to collect unemployment. Cry me a river.

Stay class C, England. Scotland should separate for their own good.

>>1088137
5/5 post

>Not giving someone money to sit on there ass
>People have to work for money
>This is forced labor akin to slavery

This is what liberals actually believe.

>>1088689

> Doesn't want someone to work for her money

This is what Liberals actually believe.

>>1088648
>The people aren't forced to take these jobs. How is slavery.

they're forced to take a job that pays them almost nothing if they want to maintain benefits with no guarantee of even part-time placement after their two weeks of work

they don't really have much of a choice, do they? they can either work for next to nothing for two weeks, continue receiving their benefits, or refuse and lose their benefits. most people are going to agree because they don't have any other options--they have to eat, after all.

>>1088666
it would be different if she were actually paid for it, even if it were only minimum wage, but that isn't happening.

who is benefiting from this? they aren't working to improve infrastructure, they aren't helping anyone, they're working some shit retail job to line the pockets of a corporation that has no interest in actually providing them with a job.

If she dosen't like the british version of welfare to work, why dosen't she stop collecting welfare?

>>1088268
I didn't realize it was the government's role to make sure you have all the experience you need for a cozy job one day. Gee, lemme just quit my job and collect government checks while I teach myself how to program in C++ because that's what I need to learn to secure my future !!1

>>1088742
>they're forced to take a job that pays them almost nothing if they want to maintain benefits with no guarantee of even part-time placement after their two weeks of work
>pays them almost nothing if they want to maintain
>if they want to

Like I thought, not forced labor by any stretch.

>>1088782
>Like I thought, not forced labor by any stretch.

yeah i guess she could just not eat or something

Do people actually think liberals post on /pol/

>>1088742
>they can either work and keep getting money

or

>they can not work and not get money

What is wrong with this again?

>geology
>unable to find a job

n-no

Is it just me or does this sound like some weird 21st century corvee?

>>1088742

Would you rather she be paid to sit on her ass all day and never have to work?

Being on welfare is a punishment to make you get a job. It shouldn't be an alternative to work.

>>1087935

>geology
>liberal arts

did yo ueven read the article

or do you just not know what geology is

>>1088804
The part where they starve without the money to buy food.

>>1088793

She won't starve. She can take her entitled ass to a soup kitchen if worse comes to worse.

If she wants better food than that, she should get off her ass and work for it.

>>1088804
>What is wrong with this again?

corporate welfare

>>1088823
>Would you rather she be paid to sit on her ass all day and never have to work?

we already went over this. fifty pounds a week is not enough to "sit on your ass all day and never have to work". it's probably barely enough to eat.

>>1088818
I was actually thinking exactly the same thing.

Also everyone who ITT who thinks geology is a "liberal art" is irredeemably retarded

>>1088844

So not only do you want her to get her free £50 you want her to get more too?

£50 a week is more than enough to eat on btw,

>>1088839
>she should get off her ass and work for it.

perhaps in the past she could have gotten a job at poundland, but now she can't because they have an unlimited supply of free labor, so they're not hiring.

>>1088862
>So not only do you want her to get her free £50 you want her to get more too?

i didn't say that

Is everyone sucking the corporate welfare teat nowadays?

Why should a retailer get her or anyone else's labor without paying them at least the minimum worth of the work they're doing?

>>1088827
>starve
>England

Yeah no. How many people die of starvation there every year?


In any case though, IMO, she should starve if she can't work to feed herself, or can't get friends and family to feed her.

All of that food she eats--people work to make it. Farmers work to grow it or slaughter it. People work to package and transport it. Someone has to stock it on shelves (which, ironically, she thinks is beneath her). All of this labor goes into making the food...and she thinks she is entitled to it for doing nothing.

>>1088888
>Why should a retailer get her or anyone else's labor without paying them at least the minimum worth of the work they're doing?

b-b-because she's leeching off of the government bro!!

In America any sort of unpaid work is considered fine, as long as it is related to the field you are looking to get into.

Sucks to be you Foreigner.

>>1088818
The difference of course is that if she doesn't want to take the job she doesn't have to, she just might stop receiving her FREE MONEY that she already gets for DOING FUCKING NOTHING.

>UK's liberals

>>1088888

Because she's not smart enough to find her own job so the government found her one.

> Would rather have her sitting at home buying booze and fags on her free money than working.

>>1088818
it's not just you, but if you were to go by the posts in this thread you'd think that most people would be okay with that sort of thing.

>>1088922
>not smart enough to find her own job
Jobs are just falling from trees now, right?
Stop saying such abysmally stupid things.

>>1088950

No one who is skilled is out of a job trust me.

>>1088005

oh god I fucking love you

>>1088888
Why should she or anyone else get money for doing nothing?

Unemployment was meant to help people between jobs. Now it has become a job alternative--where people actually want to be unemployed. Now it is changing, and you actually have to work to keep it--and all the liberals are crying like babies.

>>1088971
>this is what retards actually believe

Hold me the fukc back!

This bitch wants to claim JOBSEEKERS ALLOWANCE while turning down everyjob that comes her way?!?!

She wants to be paid to not accept any job position ad infinitum if they aren't up to her stanards. This is the time of entitlement minded retards that are the product of the great socialist state. Useless as fuck.

Just how much of a retard is she? By this logic Pounland is exactly where this bitch should be working.

>>1088974
I suppose you can provide evidence that this is an actual significant problem anywhere and not just a hyped-up unreality?

>>1088974
If you have to work to collect unemployment, then it isn't unemployment, dumbass.

I hope she gets sued for court costs and permanently disqualified from any government assistance.

>>1088137
My cousin is making over a 100k working as a geologist. He might be doubling that when he moves to Alberta.

>>1088991

I live with 4 other guys.

2 of them went out searching for jobs. Both got one within 3 weeks.

>>1088974
>Why should she or anyone else get money for doing nothing?

eventually people without higher education, people who are not skilled laborers, and those who are not a part of the automation, cost cutting, and labor reduction forces are going to be forced out of the workplace entirely. this will decrease aggregate demand meaning the system itself will collapse either due to a sharp decline in aggregate demand (again, due to so many workers being forced out of the workplace) or an increased contraction of ownership of the means of production and consumption into the hands of those with higher education, skilled labor, and capital.

even if there are "jobs" for everyone now, many of those unskilled positions have vanished and are never coming back.

>the two-week unpaid work experience stint at Poundland
>two week unpaid work experience
>two week unpaid
>unpaid
its a con, they just rotate through the unemployed without ever following through on transitioning into a job
you ever go for a job interview and they ask you to do a couple hours or a day or whatever unpaid to test, you say no right? exactly

>>1089035
>its a con, they just rotate through the unemployed without ever following through on transitioning into a job

at least someone gets it. why hire anyone when you have a huge pool of free labor to pick from?

>Volunteering = Sitting on your ass

This is what /pol/ really thinks.

> liberals bitching about 2 weeks work

It's 2 fucking weeks you fucks.

2 weeks of work and she can keep claiming her free money.

am i the only non uk anon who thought poundland is some sort of low class porn studio?

>>1089014
Read the OP.

Some chick wants the government to keep paying her, and she doesn't want to get a job outside of some very specific, low demand, high paying job.


It is like me telling the unemployment office "Oh, I'm looking for a job. The thing is, Hollywood isn't really hiring actors to star in big budget films for millions of dollars who have no work experience. Trust me though, first offer I get, I'll take."

It doesn't and shouldn't work like that. You should take what is available.

>>1089035
I get this in bar work all the fucking time
I at least ask them to chuck in a free meal & drink afterwards, most wont even do that

>>1089069
>semi-hot college grads that can't find jobs
>forced to do low budget to keep unemployment benefits

This isn't a bad idea.

>Bitch gets useless degree
>Does "volunteer work", claims unemployment due to not finding a job "within" her degree
>Won't get a dipshit job because she got a dipshit degree
>Sue the government
MOTHER. FUCKER.

THIS is what I don't want to happen to 'merica, this fucking makes me rage SOOOOO hard.

I guarantee you that bitch can probably get a job, but because it's not related to her "degree", she doesn't get one, and demands the government pays her for it.

FUCK. YOU.

>hate liberals
>still live in Europe

>>1087935
>took welfare
>kept taking welfare
>pretends her volunteer position could ever lead to a real job
>knows it wouldnt
>acts like a good submissive
>follows orders
>tries to get 15 minutes of fame

did i miss anything?
btw the last part, shes following the orders of the consumerist culture, dont be a tard in 2012

>>1088188

This.

Can /pol/ please make up it's mind and stop moving the goalposts.

You'll complain of fascism when Cameron finally bans the Burka next.

>>1089096
>>Bitch gets useless degree

do you know what geology is

>>1089047
Do you have any evidence that it actually works this way?

Why don't they find her work experience at a mine? Doesn't sound that hard.

Regardless, she ought to move to Canada/Australia.

>>1088971
I know right?

This recession thing is no big deal.

>>1089092
i dont know where you come from

or if somehow you put obese, old, and disfigured people on your 1-10 scale

but shes no semi hot, hot is above a 8.0

shes below a 7 at best, and shes wearing a POUND of makeup

>>1089116

Yeah she should go live in the countries who are the kings of socialism.

Let her leach off their government.

>>1089111

why wouldn't it, oh you must think corporations do the right thing huh

>>1089096
>geology
>useless
lolwut
problem is its most useful areas are in the commerical sector, mining and oil and that sort of thing
and she is probably the sort who wouldn't go in for that

>>1089048
are you as retarded as the woman in the pic?
if she thought it would lead to a job any time soon, no one was forcing her to go after the welfare

she sure as fuck wasnt forced to quit the volunteer job either, she had options

but shes a dumb submissive bitch, of course she did as told and now shes crying about it

>DOES SOMETHING DOESNT WANT TO DO
>HURR IM POWERLESS AND BEING FORCED
>does it as a choice
>HURR I WAS COERCED

>>1089120

No one who is important is being touched by the recession. Just useless jobs and people with useless degrees.

>>1089111
>Do you have any evidence that it actually works this way?

i'm mostly going by the fact that they're placing a geology major in a retail setting stocking shelves rather than somewhere related to her degree, and i'm willing to bet this is not an isolated case. this only benefits the retail chain she's working for and no one else--she gains absolutely nothing from this.

>>1089137

There are a lot of mining jobs in australia and canada.

>implying they aren't better places to live

>>1089107
>tripfag
Don't know why I'm responding, but let me define something here.

A degree is to further your education for a job. If said degree can't get you a job, then we can state that said degree is FUCKING USELESS.

Correcto?

>>1089143
implying that most large corporations are anything except government backed scams, businesses that cant compete

>>1089107
>insist degree isn't useless
>meanwhile, she has been unemployed for months with no job offers in her field.

What gives?

>>1089167
You really have no idea what you're talking about.

>>1089155
see my response here:

>>1089177

> Want to be a pilot
> Go on unemployment
> They don't offer me a job flying a plane
> Make me work in pound land

THOSE FUCKS WHY DIDN'T THEY GIVE ME A JOB RELATED TO FLYING A PLANE?

>>1089120
implying you read the post you qoted

implying it read
>no one is out of a job who wants a job

and not
>no one who is skilled is out of a job


DURRRR

yea, just keep trollin, your life is useless anyway

>>1089120
>implying I'm not seeing a new hire next week

Yeah, people aren't hiring for suuure.

>>1089170
>rather than somewhere related to her degree

So now not only is she entitled to free money from the government for doing nothing, but they also have to find the job for her, and place her there.

Should they also do the job for her?

>>1089220
>Should they also do the job for her?

yes, because she is a woman

>>1089202

> Want to be an F1 driver
> Go on unemployment
> Buy car and race it to gain racing experience
> Dick government makes me work at pound land

Why didn't they just offer me a job as an F1 driver?

>>1087935


I'm thinking a geology major should have been able to get a job with an oil company but based on OP's picture of her I'm sure she thinks they are evil capitalist that are exploiting the world and would rather be paid by the government or a liberal arts school instead of working in the real world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKT-eWMWXOE

>>1089220

thats not the issue and you know it

the problem is making her work for less than minimum wage to keep benefits that don't equal how much she is working

what is stop that company from hiring other than the fact they get free labor at the governments expense, if anyone is getting welfare its that fucking company, not her

Typical Liberal thread.

>>> WHAT? You mean I have to WORK?!?!?!

Good job, /pol/, you've made me rage. I don't normally wish death upon people but I hope you all get gang raped by semi trucks lined with barbed wire for the unfathomable quantities of idiocy you're pumping into this thread and probably the rest of the world.

What about the woman in Germany forced into prostitution to keep her unemployment?

>>1089280
Then we are just back to the original point, which is that she thinks the government should pay her forever, while she turns her nose up and passes up all the available positions, because she feels she should get paid a lot of money to do a job that is not in demand.

>>1089263

F1.. that's the faggy version of NASCAR right?

>>1089285
>what is stop that company from hiring other than the fact they get free labor at the governments expense, if anyone is getting welfare its that fucking company, not her
Absolutely nothing. If you don't like it, don't buy from that company.

>>1089297

>typical conservative

what do you mean i can't pay my workers a pittance! they should be so lucky!

>>1089321

not even remotely related to the point

>>1089319

No it's the faggy version of Indy car.

Turn left isn't even a sport.

>mfw this whole thread

lol @ the liberals in this thread actually finding out ways to blame this on corporations.

>>1089202
>>1089263

I bet liberals will just ignore these.

>>1089307
It was a myth

>>1089364
i'm sure poundland is very upset about all of this free labor they're getting

So government destroys all employment prospects with shitty over tyhe top insane taxes and spastic regulations. Then it tells people to work for 50 bucks per fucking week? Sounds like slavery to me.

Do you know how she can do to make lots of money if she doesn't want to do what it takes to get unemployment?
A job that she is guaranteed because of her gender?

Prostitution.

>>1089323
left right step

please get your brain out of the retardbox

>>1089323
>implying all jobs are worth minimum wage

THANK GOD I'M PAYING INTO THE SOCIAL SAFETY NET SO THAT PEOPLE CAN DEVELOP VALUABLE SKILLS MANNING COUNTERS IN SHITTY RETAILERS. GOD FORBID WELFARE KEEP PEOPLE ALIVE WHILE THEY TRY TO GET EXPERIENCE IN SOMETHING USEFUL TO SOCIETY AND OF INTEREST TO THEMSELVES.

Useless degree?

Really?

So none of you know jackshit about the adult world?

But yeah, you know oil companies? Kind of a big industry, may have heard of it? Anyways they dont actually just toss darts at maps to find oil.

You can make fat bank in the geosciences.
Maybe right now this person is pissing around just doing what interests her but she could make that degree work for her and probably will as she gets older.

But the degree itself isnt useless. Somebody with goals and direction can take the same degree and make a great living with it is they apply it and themselves properly.

>>1089364

see

>>1089323

>>1089398

THANK GOD I PAY TAXES SO THAT USELESS PEOPLE CAN SIT ON THEIR ASS

THEY SHOULDN'T BE MADE TO WORK AT ALL THAT'S JUST CRAZY.

>>1089402
>Anyways they dont actually just toss darts at maps to find oil.
At first I read this as "they dont actually just toss dwarves at maps to find oil"

>>1089398

Yeah, paying ten percent of your entire income as insurance, then get told to work for fucking free.

>>1089390
fuck man

if i was a woman faced with debt and shit like this
i would honestly go where prostitution is legal and shit, and i would bang the fuck out of as many people as i could please from thursday afternoon to sunday evening and then life the fucking life rest of the week

>>1089398

> Geology
> Useful to society

A shelf stacker is more useful than a fag that looks at rocks or digs up old bones.

>>1089285
15 people work at that store

She is the only where there under this program. The rest are all actually employees.

The scenario you are creating simply isn't reality. The store still employees 14 people for every 1 the gov't lends them.

>This fucking economy
>People still believe it's easy to get a job

>>1089445
My anecdote will prove me right, lazy-ass!

>>1089445
unable to reaad op
>make troll post

>>1089205
>implying that people with college degrees are unskilled
>implying that it's impossible for people with college degrees(yes even science degrees like geology) to not get a job

It's like you want me to believe that you are retarded.

>>1089427

So funnay!! XD

>>1089443

and you really don't see how this is wrong, i pity you

>>1089034
i like how everyone conveniently ignored this

>>1089436
>yep, it's a rock
is not the same as
>yep, there's probably an oil reserve under this rock formation

>>1089465
Guess what, a college degree in something irrelevant to the job makes you just as unskilled as Bubba and Cleetus with their GEDs.

>>1089389
>sounds like slavery

Spoiler alert: She doesn't have to take the job

>>1089478
ummmm it's just one extra worker bro!!

...out of 250,000

OMG THEY MADE HER WORK FOR MONEY?

THOSE NAZI FUCKS

FUCK BRITAIN MAN THEY'RE LIKE SUPER EVIL AND SHIT.

>>1089492

Spoiler alert, she takes it or starves to death.

>>1089443
So the shop can pay its employees. The museum very likely can't. And yet the public funding goes to the shitty retail chain.

>>1089502

No, they made her work for no money. There is a difference.

>>1089490

> implying a hipster volunteering at a museum want's to work for an oil company.

>>1089509
"do this work or I'll beat you to death" != "do this work or you're responsible for your own income"

>>1089525
Then she might be severely retarded.

>>1089509

> People in Britain starving to death

When was the last time you heard of someone starving?

Even hobos don't starve in Britain.

>>1089525

high schooler still judging everyone telling us how the real world is

ITT: Liberals gonna lib.

>>1089490
That's not how the word "skilled" is used regarding statistics and jobs you fucking idiot.

>>1089509
>Working an optional job to make a living
>Slavery

This is what liberals actually believe

>>1089525
Pay an oil company to offer her a job, and maybe then we'll know for sure.

She can always fall back on her modelling career can't she ... ?

>>1089544

Unemployment is created by government taxes. They got us into this fucking mess. Now they want us to be slaves? Fuck that. Get rid of the taxes and let us look after our fucking selves. Want to keep the taxes? Then stick you self righteous garbage up your stinking ass.

Is it that hard to get a subsistence minimum-wage job in the UK? It'd be a struggle but she should be able to do that to stay afloat and volunteer at the museum.

The problem in North America is where people try to do that AND service huge students loans: it's not possible, hence forced to work at the dollar store 50 hours a week, hence no job experience, hence no real job ever, hence OWS/anhero.

>>1089583
>Unemployment is created by government taxes.

lol

>>1089585

It's 50p for a big bag of chips from the local fish and chip shop.

Not even homeless people starve here.

>>1089568

Unemployment at 10%. Taxes at 50% of income. All opportunites crushed by the state. But you fucking retards can't make the connection.

>>1089583

libertard detected

>Cait Reilly, who studied geology at university, had been unable to find a job in her subject area
>Cait Reilly, who studied geology at university
>Cait Reilly

Fucking Hiberniggers. Typical Irish behavior.

>>1089545
Dude, they can't even afford to go to the dentist.

>>1089583
One of the reasons for the high taxes to begin with is that liberals needed to fund all of these fucking entitlement programs.

They want free medical care and insurance.
They want the gov't to buy their food
They want the gov't to pay them money not to work

And then they want to bitch that the gov't has to pay for this somehow.

>>1089607

People don't starve because of state benifits. The things that are being taken away if she does not work for free. Is any of this getting through to you yet?

>>1089488

That's usually how it is ennui

i've noticed that all big government liberals also happen to be keynesians. i fucking knew it.

>>1089640

needed more buzzwords to really draw in the idiots

1/10

>>1089635

>>1089644
>work for free
!=
>work for government benefits

>>1089640

Government caused the mass unemployment with regulations and taxes. Blaming the unemployed for the situaton they were put in by big government is fucking despicable.

Eh, that chart doesn't mean much.

I live in Canada, we aren't even on that list, I had 5 fillings in my baby teeth and I brushed every single day.

Thirty years later I haven't had any fillings cavities or any other issues with my adult teeth and I brush like once every two or three days but I chew lots of gum.

No dental issues since baby teeth.

Baby teeth are notoriously random, the only sugar in your diet could be apples and you'd still get cavities.

>>1089644
>she must work for free

Except for the part where she gets paid for it. She has been getting paid for months for NOT WORKING, and then she has to WORK for 2 weeks, while getting paid, and then she can go back to NOT WORKING, while still getting paid.

Where exactly was the work for free part?

>>1089653
we're at the heels of the final crisis of capitalism and everyone's response is simply, "get a job"

( ._.)

>>1089683

Don't want to pay the benifits? Stop taking the fucking taxes.

The people this law was meant to target, obviously, were people too lazy/unmotivated to ever work a job, by giving them a taste of employment and hopefully enticing them back into work.

If the government was smart it'd allow exceptions for people like this women who are ALREADY getting unpaid work-experience at something much more apropos than a dollar store.

>>1089715

> 5 fillings
> I brushed every single day.

With what cola?

>>1089717

The free part is the unemployment insurance that is forcably taken from everyone's pay packet by the government. Don't take the fucking taxes and you you have to pay the entitlements.

>>1089718

Here's one for you that you might think is funny that I've been hearing a whole lot of from the same people

>complain about outsourcing
>also complain about people who are unemployed that want jobs

>>1089725
>has very employable degree
>has gone a long time unemployed

I'd say she falls into the category of "too lazy/unmotivated to ever work a job"

>>1089758
Is it marketable in Britain?

I think you could definitely get a job here in Canada with a geology degree in mining or something, but what do you do with that in England?

Massive taxes mean businesses are not competative. That means mass unemployment. Government is the problem.

>>1089752
>SHE IS GETTING PAID HURRRRRR
>Umm, yes she is.
>DAT DUSN'T COUNT DURRRRRRRRRR SHE IS ENTITLED TO MORE MONEY ON TOP OF HER FREE MONEY

>>1089719
Well yeah, that's obvious. The government's only business should be law & order, and defense.

What's going to be REALLY funny is when the government CAN'T pay all these chucklefucks their handouts. Boy will there be some butthurt.

>>1089781
ISN'T GETTING PAID*

Ron Paul will fix this shit.

>>1089634
Bloody taigs coming over here and learning our geology. That's a ROCK, Paddy, not a potato.

>>1089781

>two-week unpaid work experience
>two-week unpaid
>unpaid

>>1089811
>50 pounds/week

> Still complaining over 2 weeks work

>>1088894

> In any case though, IMO, she should starve if she can't work to feed herself, or can't get friends and family to feed her.

you make me fucking sick, just because a person who gennuinly wannts to get a proper job is having a hard time finding one she should die?. I hope you loose your job and die of starvation while looking for a new one cunt.

>>1089781
>um, yes she is
>pretending to sound calm while posing others as yelling and overly exhibiting emotions
>not actually quoting the poster
>not clarifying what "getting paid" (50 pounds/week) actually is
>thinks 50 pounds a week is enough for basic living in a modernized county

sigh.

>>1089758
I have two questions for you and anyone else that thinks similarly:

1) Is the world fair?

2) Do you think that people who work hard are always successful or rewarded?

If you answered differently to both questions then you're a fucking idiot.

>>1089822
>>1089823

guess you two have no problem working for less than minimum wage?

What the fuck is this shit...

I have a degree in geology and there are fucking jobs for it.
There are plenty jobs in the oil industry for geology majors, along with minning industry.

Granted there is a lot of travel but wouldnt some people consider that a good thing? I have been to Brazil, Greenland, Egypt, and China.

Or is this cunt one of those "jobs for oil companies are evil" shit. I knew some of those people while I was in college, I was just puzzled, why the fuck would you go for a geology major if you are not going to work in the oil or minning industry?

>>1089822

Which part of unpaid do you not understand?

>>1089823

yeah i guess she can just "rough it" for two weeks right?

have you ever tried living on 50 pounds for two weeks before? are you that naive?

>>1089835
>this two weeks of unpaid work is required if you want to keep your benefits
WAAAAAAAAAAAAH OMG THIS IS SO UNFAIR I CAN'T WORK ON THIS I WENT TO COLLEGE WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>1089845

For just 2 weeks?

I'd have already received more money for free than working their at minimum wage would have given.

Unemployment insurance is not getting paid. It is getting unemployment insurance. Only complete fucking idiots are trying to argue that getting insurance money is the same as being paid.

>on jobseeker allowance
>get cash in hand work for about 6 weeks from friend
>spend 6 weeks not getting allowance because i didn't really need it
>centrelink rings up eventually and they're on my back, full trying to play detective asking "how can you survive if your not getting your allowance hmm?"

>couple of months later when i am back to being unemployed
>miss jobseeker appointment
>this puts me on an 8 week non payment period
>"wtf how am i meant to survive on 8 weeks with no money?" i ask.
>she says "well, um, well you're just going to have to figure something out." and hangs up

>>1089811
She had to be unemployed at least 2 months to get put into this program. At £53.45/wk, we have that she made at least 437.60 before even starting the job.

Then she works 2 weeks, 30 hours/wk, at the same rate of 53.45. That is an additional 106.90.

That gives a total of £544.50 made. We divide that by the 60 hours that she worked, to obtain a wage of £9.05, which is about what the average working man makes.

>>1089870

> £30 on food
> £20 spending money

What's the problem?

I don't get this

why is a government providing a business with free labor that in turn doesn't give them any incentive to actually create real paying jobs?

I'm more curious about how many hours is worked in that 2 week stint and how much does it extend the benefits (1 time only good forever or has to be renewed periodically?)

Sweet jesus fuck this thread has been nigger raped with rhetoric

By the way, I already said that In America you can have an unpaid job as long as it gives you experience in the field you are moving into.

I also remember that you can have a Part Time Job, they just take it out of your UI Check.

Sucks to be you Brits.

Of course UI is a tax break conspiracy for the Corps who hire and fire and then hire again, but I digress.

>>1089903

then whats stopping you?

At least there is one thing she is doing right: Volunteering. Since she can't get a job in her field, her best opportunity is to claim job seekers allowance, volunteer, and keep searching for work. She was hoping that volunteering will get her a lead on a job opening.

It is insulting that the HM Government forcing her to take a job placement without pay while she was not on her ass doing nothing. I rather have these job placements be aimed at the real welfare problem: People who just collect benefits with little interest in work. She should be exempted from a unpaid job placement while she was already in a unpaid job placement which is her volunteer job.

Seriously if you want people out of welfare, give them a good reason to get out of welfare. The best way to do it is through raising the minimum wage.

>>1089939

> Being proud America is more socialist than Britain in this instance

Lol liberals.

>>1089888

Yup. Still get the money stolen from you in taxes, though.

It is not the rich that want this. They could not give two fucks about fifty pounds per week. Wanting to fuck the unemployed up is a lower class thing. The working poor absolutly hate the unemployed. They demand really shitty conditions for them.

>>1089870
>She has no job
>"She shouldn't have to rough it"

WHAT THE FUCK AM I READING!?

Of course she should have to rough it until she gets a car. Are we supposed to be putting unemployed people in mansions now, and buying them Mercedes?

I CAN'T BELIEVE THE GOVERNMENT DIDN'T BUY HER AN IPAD! SHE IS UNEMPLOYED AND CAN'T AFFORD IT THEY SHOULD BUY IT FOR HER

>>1089952

I do live on £50 a week.

>>1089903
>£20 spending money

who the FUCK can pay for bills on that kind of money? do you even live on your own? have you ever tried?

>>1089982

the fact you are on the internet tells me otherwise

nice try though

>>1089999

Since she's only getting £50 a week she's living at home, she has no bills.

If you live in a rented property you get more.

>>1089888
>Evade taxes by accepting cash-in-hand
>Miss appointment with government trying to give you free money, despite having no job and nothing to do all day
>Complain

Liberals.

>>1089981

Government never buys anyone shit. They take our money in taxes, while promising stuff. Then they don't give what they promised and demand slave labor instead.

>>1090018

Everyone lives at home, retard. That's why it's called home.

>>1090025

Nah, just an idiot.

>>1090045

> ignoring the post while trying to be a smart ass

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lGd5kP2yOg

12:50

>>1090066
This video contains content from Channel 4, who has blocked it in your country on copyright grounds.

>>1089953
>The best way to do it is through raising the minimum wage.
You, sir, are fucking retarded. Raising the minimum wage is the best way to increase unemployment and speed up inflation. Then you're right back where you started.

>minimum wage is $5 an hour
>have 30 employees
>big government raises the minimum wage to $10 an hour
>lay off 10 employees, cut benefits for the rest, raise the price of your company's product
>other companies have to do the same to survive
>the value of the dollar goes down, benefits have been severely cut, paid vacation is a thing of the past, and everyone ends up with less money except the richest of the rich

>>1090092

I bet the Jews did this.

In a nutshell.

Live in London.
Do Geology degree, many many positions exist in the world for this proffesion.

Waaaahhh, no one wants my qualification in the city of London, therefore the taxpayer should support me...

Key words in that article: "..had been unable to find a job in her subject area.."

Id suggest she tries something like this website.
http://geologyjobs.com.au/

There are hundreds of vacancies in WA alone, wages "$120K - $199K Kalgoorlie" for the first search off the bat.

But no, just stay at poundland you worthless sulking child.

>>1090095

>lay off 10 employees, cut benefits for the rest, raise the price of your company's product

FUCKING WRONG

the reason this exists is to maintain existing profit margins. if you are already barely breaking even you have already made these adjustments without government intervention. explain to me how a number of companies have made record profits these past few years but were laying people off in droves?

>>1089874

Wasnt she already doing unpaid work at a museum?

why cant you choose where your work experience is so its relative to the career you want to persue

it would be like getting an accounting student fresh out of college and ask him to work on as a construction site labourer for work experience... how is it going to help the person land a job they are trained to do.

>>1089982

are you using a public library's computer?

>>1090018
>living at home
>22
>no bills

oh boy someone's underage or has parents that pamper them. last time I checked responsible parents make their children contribute to rent if they're living at home past 18. Not that it's a "life or death" situation if she can't pay her parents but you have to realize that not everyone effected by this lives at home right?

the problem here isn't JUST her, it's how it affects other people as well, like those not living with their parents, who will be kicked out for not paying their bills or have families or who debt to pay. there isn't just ONE type of person that is affected by this.

>>1090101
>There are hundreds of vacancies in WA alone, wages "$120K - $199K Kalgoorlie" for the first search off the bat.
Oh, you mean that one that asks for MINIMUM 6 years experience? Or did you mean the one after that asking for 5-8 years experience? Which one of these jobs requiring years of experience is this lazy, entitled bitch fresh out of college supposed to get, hm?

>>1090144

What part of "if you rent a property you get more money" don't you get.

You think it's a £50 flat rate instead of an assessment based on her circumstances don't you?

>>1089966
I didn't say I was proud of it, I said it sucks to be you, and I even followed up by saying that its a corrupt system...

You know sometimes I think you Brits mistake your own snobbishness for intelligence.

>>1090142

> why cant you choose where your work experience is so its relative to the career you want to persue

See >>1089263 >>1089202

>>1090151
>arguing against that poster's point
>still calling the chick in the article a "lazy entitled bitch"

>>1090165

read the whole post again. never did I say 50 pounds was a flat rate, nor imply it, nor suggest that others DO NOT have adjusted rates based off of their circumstances. I understand that.

what you DO NOT understand is that those "adjusted rates" are not enough for many to even survive, given their circumstances. that is what you need to consider.

>>1090151
You dont take those jobs, you have to take a entry level position or a intern position.
Yeah it sucks but it helps to build up the experience.
I had to do it but it pays off in the end.
Plain and simple the bitch doesnt want to leave london, I had to leave where I grew up and also went to college because the job requires you to travel.

>>1090195

> are not enough for many to even survive

Maybe they should get jobs.

>>1090195
Why should the government be responsible for doing ANY OF THAT?

Maybe if they weren't subsidizing laziness and failure that entitled bitch would be a bit more grateful.

>>1090195
>>still calling the chick in the article a "lazy entitled bitch"
It was sarcasm. I'll put it in quotes next time.

>>1090202
So where are the entry level jobs? Shit, where are MOST of the jobs?

>>1090242
Big government killed them.

> Going into aviation
> Will never have trouble finding a job
> mfw

This thread has given me an idea though, the government should pay for flight school for me right? What say you Liberals!

>>1088453
>i am sure there is some publicly funded geological surveying (or something related) she could have been assigned to, and even if she isn't really needed, it'd be good work experience for her.
A bachelor's in geology is worthless.

>>1090218
>0/10
>>1090242
noted
>>1090230
>subsidizing laziness

dear christ your ignorance is astounding. do you really think everyone on welfare is on welfare because they're "lazy"? who the fuck would want to be on welfare and not working in a job and making a living? do you understand what it's like living on welfare, because you seem to think it's great and that we're all missing out on the "free ride", amirite?

ennui get in here right now

>>1090299
>inb4 implying that there aren't lazy people on welfare

there are. lazy people exist in our world. I am not denying it- but claiming that all people on welfare are lazy is beyond naive and you should go out and meet people that are on welfare if you think that's true. try living their lives, and learning about their circumstances.

>>1090334
He didn't say there weren't lazy people on Welfare, he said that a good deal of people would like to get out.

The problem with the welfare industry is not that it allows lazy people to abuse it, its that it restricts people trying to get out of it by cutting off benefits if you get too close to getting out of it. Likewise, they make it so if your kid gets too old they take away benefits, forcing you to starve, have the kid taken away or have another kid. guess which people choose.

ITT: Liberals believe you should be paid enough unemployment benefits so it's a viable alternative to work.

>>1090334
to add even further to the part about "learning about their circumstances", you'll find that there are people that exist that have not had the opportunity of education, or learning about simple things like "finding a job", that even have families, and are limited to work in their specific area because of not only their family, but their possible friends, responsibilities, debt, and/or lack of resources to move.

not everyone has the same circumstances that "you" do.

Ill try to explain something, take it as you will.

I have a job full time, making 18 an hour. I get laid off. In this job market people are now only hiring at part time. This means I could either get some part time jobs, or get UI, get job training which is allowed through UI and make more doing nothing than working two jobs. This is disregarding the awful job market, and the fact that getting a decent paying job is even more of a struggle than getting one in the first place.

>>1090299
>who the fuck would want to be on welfare and not working in a job and making a living?
Clearly getting free money for doing nothing is better than getting the same amount of money for stocking shelves.

What I'm saying is that welfare should not exist in the first place. Like many "free" government services, it doesn't harm the rich at all, but it does its best to eliminate the middle class through higher taxes, reducing the value of their labor (a company could fire them and hire someone straight off welfare willing to work for less at any time), raising the price of education by paying for the poor go to to college for free, and raising the price of housing through property taxes and rent assistance.

>>1090095
Well is there a better idea to have workers keep up with the increase in the cost of living? And where do you get the fact that minium wage increases "kill" jobs?

>>1090440

see

>>1090134

Minimum wage only kills jobs because profits might be slightly lower although still significant. Neocons want it abolished to reap in more profits at the expense of their employees who have no other choice but to take whatever scraps they are allowed.

>>1090433
>it does its best to eliminate the middle class through higher taxes

THEN DON'T FUCK THE MIDDLE CLASS SO MUCH WITH TAXES.

are you really having that much trouble missing the actual problem? don't get rid of government programs that actually HELP PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HAVE THE SAME CIRCUMSTANCES AS YOU. the problem is the tax scheme, which is clearly unfairly divided.

you see, you're not for the middle class like you're trying to frame your point, you're clearly just against the poor and uneducated. if you were for the middle class you would realize there are less harmful alternatives like restructuring the tax system and encouraging restructuring government programs to promote basic living education among the poor and how to improve their situation. instead your alternative is just take away welfare because of the unfair tax system that's fucking the middle class, despite that taking away welfare would only harm the poor even more.

fuckthepoor.txt again and again and again. every single fucking thread.

>mfw there is a store named pound land

>>1090587
conservatives think everyone is created and treated equally by society

Aside from the Welfare discussion here.

Why is it so bad that I LIKE being in the Middle-Lower class. I enjoy it. I don't want more. I work, I pay bills. Why am I punished for that.

>>1090645

>>1090668

because being lower-middle class I'd say is a "comfortable" lifestyle for a single person. you contribute, but you don't take too much, and you have enough to live off of on your own without worrying too much about debt. you basically have all the basics of living covered, if you live in a cheaper area of your country. the job you work probably isn't too demanding (thus your adequate pay), so you probably have enough time (weekends) for your hobbies, friends, and any sort of experimentation in your life. the only "problem" is that saving up money, starting a family, or donating substantial amounts of money to any worthy cause becomes a long term investment (money wise). it only works if there are many people just like this, all cooperating together. this of course would be a utopia, where the spectrum of rich to poor is much smaller and we all have the same opportunities available to us.