Yeah, I saw this, inb4 massive butthurt from Daily Mail readers.
And wasn't this only for EU immigration?

MAybe they don't deprive you of jobs, but they deprive you of a reasonable wage.

If Europe handles their unemployment statistics anything like the US does then Unemployed and Jobless mean different things entirely.

Wh..What?

I don't know what it's like in Britain, but on average here in Sweden it takes about 7 years for an immigrant to find a job.

>>1060862
You're not actually allowed to immigrate into most countries (including Sweden) without a verifiable source of income.

>immigration does NOT cause unemployment
>show a race mixing picture
>"independent"
>trollface.jpg

>>1060862

In Britain we have employment agencies, which favor foreign workers as they're cheaper and don't know their rights/complain about mistreatment.

meanwhile in Israel:

>Israeli lawmakers approve harsh penalties for illegal migrants

>The bill makes it possible to imprison illegal migrants for life over property crimes and detain them for up to three years without trial.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle-east/israeli-lawmakers-approve-harsh-penalties-for-illega
l-migrants/2012/01/10/gIQAFt6LnP_story.html

Bullshit, the Jews did this.

So how come employment's at a high alongside immigration?

There's no direct link. But it does have a roundabout effect. Employers can offer immigrants slave wages, whereas they would have had to offer natives a decent wage.

Natives don't have the luxury of doing a few years hard work while living ten to a flat, then going home to a decent pile of money.

>>1060869
What are you talking about? That isn't the case here in Sweden atleast. Maybe you're talking about EU-immigrants?

Most of the people that come here due so because of relatives that live here.

>>1060912
Yes, that's part of the rule. You're allowed to have your family come over, but only if you can prove you can support them financially.

At least give government SOME credit, they have actually put some thought into this.

>Jews lobby for multiculti bullshit in other countries
>Jews, in their home country, have harsh penalties against illegal immigrants in Israel

with jews you lose
it's like when the president of wetback land complained the USA doesn't take enough of the poor ignorant impoverished lowerclass spics their government ships north to receive welfare state

>>1060923
I don't think you realize quite how fucked the Swedish asylum/migrant system is. AFAIK you don't have to provide for them financially here although a lot of people want that changed.

I mean just a couple of months back we changed the law so that illegal immigrants would be able to get healthcare and education while here. I'm not even a big "hurr durr, they be invading us!!" but the Swedish system is seriously fucked.

>>1060972
You're talking about asylum seekers. That's a completely different situation from immigrants.
See, because of the ridiculous bureaucracy involved, asylum procedures can easily take ten years or more. In the mean time, asylum seekers aren't citizens and so would not be eligible for health care. The law was meant to at least keep them healthy/alive during the procedure.

>>1060995
No, I'm talking about illegal immigrants. People who seek asylum are not apart of that group.

People who are told to leave the country and do not are a part of that group.

>>1060892
Are this faggots even trying?

THE WORLD MUST BE MULTICULTURAL

p.s: except for Israel

>>1061132
Israel is multicultural though. They have a rather large arab population. Why do people keep saying that?

Oh wow. Could they make that cover any more anti-White?

>>1060809
This is what I got from the article

>Increase population with foreign workers
>More of the native population become employed
>even in times of recession

nonsense

It's prohibitively difficult to immigrate on your own to 1st world countries. The only realistic method is marrying somebody, or having relatives who already live there. Otherwise, the only way is to be a world class athlete, nobel laureate, or rich fucking enterpreneur, and in each case you would not have much reason to immigrate anyway since you can clearly do very well in your own country.

>>1061172
Arabs that were living there or they ancestors were living there before the creation of the state of Israel in 1948.
Also:

>Implying Israeil isn't making all that is possible to expel al the arabs from palestine

>The respected National Institute of Economic and Social Research

Nope. Funded by Rockefeller Foundation (trilateralists).

>>1061229

And people complain why we only get the trash. Make it easier for skilled and productive members of a 3rd world country to become a citizen and you won't have these problems

>SUPPLY AND DEMAND DOESN'T EXIST
>EVERYTHING DONE TO THE ECONOMY THAT WE LIKE IS SOMEHOW MAGICALLY STIMULUS AND THE CAUSE OF ALL GROWTH
>EVERYTHING WE DON'T LIKE IS A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
>CORRELATION IMPLIES CAUSATION
>THE ONLY GUIDE TO ECONOMICS YOU SHOULD READ IS THE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO
>INDEPENDENT

As a libertarian I am actually in favor of unfettered immigration, but I'm not going to pretend that it would not cause unemployment in certain regions. Of course it reduces unemployment among all individuals, which is what matters, not state, also most unemployment is due to arbitrary statism warping market forces.

That's funny cause on Radio 4 they've been saying 23 domestic jobs get displaced for every 100 immigrants.

>>1061308
>make it difficult for useful people to immigrate
>make it extremely easy for hurr durr trash who can't speak the language, have no skills, are lazy as fuck and have no intention of integrating to immigrate
>suddenly, lots of hurr durrs
>oh gee, looks like the immigrants we've got are all hurr durrs! I know, let's try to reduce the number of immigrants!
>make it even harder for useful people to immigrate
>hurr durr relatives of trash hurr durrs who already immigrated get in anyway
>anchor babies
>oh gee, looks like the immigrants we've got are all hurr durrs! I know, let's try to reduce the number of immigrants!
>make it even harder for useful people to immigrate
etc

This is what the typical western immigration policy actually believes.

>>1061481

Migration Watch (Right-Wing "Thinktank") are on this huge PR blitz at the minute because of this study that is in the independent and are in a panic because it makes their rather crock of shit stories and rent-a-quotes redundant.

This isn't a "hurr-leftist" thing either. Migration Watch sell their "research" and opinions to papers like the daily mail and actual studies disproving their opinions are going to fuck over business, so they are on this huge PR blitz at the minute to try drown out this study that was published because it will make them look like tits and no one wanting to buy their "Research" so they are all over the place today, even going on the BBC.

Lobby groups, pain in the ass, all of the time.

butttt
the BBC has an article detailing how Non-EU workers take jobs.

So wut

No-one in Britain hates EU migrants, I certainly don't.
Now PAKIS on the other hand....

Indians are ok too, especially sikh bros

fuck are you on about everyone i know hates eastern europeans

Yes, immigration causes higher unemployment / lowers job security. But if it still manageed to increase net economic output / taxable surplus then it will have served its purpose given the demographic shitstorm we're sailing into.

Europe is probably fucked beyond saving, since they show so little capacity to productively employ immigrants. The US, Canada, and Australia on the other hand are going to have to RADICALLY increase immigration rates in the coming decades if they want to maintain anything like their current living standards / lifeways. It won't be easy (Australia and Canada already have heroic immigration rates, although in the future we'll probably start placing less emphasis on older educated immigrants and more on the young and ambitious and willing to learn)

It is a simple thing, this is OUR country, not the foreigners. They have no right to be here.

Plain and fucking simple.

Also these "economic" arguments always use aggregates as if they were relevant.

What does it matter to me or you if the economy grows larger as our wages shrink? As the welfare state we are forced to pay for wont' even exist as we age?
How does it benefit us to have our neighborhoods destroyed, and the place you grow up now has signs in arabic?

>>1063927
>the dependency argument

you know that the government has DELIBERATELY reduced birth rates right?

>>1063987
Why do you say that? For what purpose?

Besides, I think the birth rate is cultural and economic / not really subject to government manipulation. The 'greatest generation' had a fuck tonne of kids because they grew up on farms and that's what people had always done since forever. The boomers had 2.1 kids because it seemed modern and they could easily afford it. Gen X had 1.5 kids because they were a bit more squeezed economically but could still basically afford it with some sacrifice. Gen Y will be lucky to have 1 kid per woman, and all those will be welfare moms, since there's no way to get a stable foothold in the middle class before your uterus has stopped working.

You can tell how independent they are by their name.