>>757679
>Need some good responses to things like "What the fuck are you doing" and "Stop photographing my daughter you freak"
1) Don't take pictures of kids
2) Just shrug and move on

glock 30sf

>>757679
lol, hi beethy

>what the fuck are you doing?

1. "Photographing."
2. "Apparently, having a conversation with you."
3. "Annoying you."
4. "Living."
5. "I'm making ahht."
6. "What do you mean, what are you doing? Do you know who I am?"

>stop photographing my daughter you freak

1. "Stop taking her out in public if you don't want cameras to see her, like this one, or that one." (On that one point to nearest CCTV camera.)
2. "Relax, I don't want to boink your spawn."
3. "Why, don't you photograph your daughter?"

I've never really had any encounter like that; I have apparently creeped out mothers twice, but they just grabbed their three year olds and rushed away. Oh, and once at a festival someone thought I was photographing their kid and sent a cop over to me. I wasn't, I walked past them and took a picture of the bubbles from a bubble machine, and explained it to the cop and showed him the picture and the ones before it.

I have had people say "don't take my picture," and I wasn't. Once when he actually was and got that reaction, Garry Winogrand shouted back, "it's not your picture, it's my picture!"

But really, none of this is anything to worry about. People who think cameras are dangerous weapons are at least as delusional as the peoples unfamiliar with photography who think cameras steal their souls. Just ignore them politely.

>>757691

you seem like a very creepy person in general.

>>757691
Op, whatever you do do not listen to this faggot. He has no social antennas whatsoever and seems to be very confused about how society works. Taking his advice will only get you in trouble.

>>757695
I hope I'm not. Except for "I'm photographing," I'd never actually say any of that to someone.

Note I said "ignore them politely:" just say you're taking pictures, if they think it's of them assure them it's not, and move along is what I do.

>>757699
well, im not not going to jump into the discussion, but I know what I would do if someone took a picture of my child. I don't think childless people understand how protective it makes you as a parent.

>>757702
>well, im not not going to

>>757702
>I know what I would do
What? Assault someone? Break the Law?
You're right. I can't understand how having a kid would make me want to break the law.

>>757705
Dude that's not what I ment lol. I wouldn't allow it thats all. Im harmless as a duck

>>757706
How would you "not allow it" it takes a fraction of a second to take a photo.

>>757708

and 2 seconds to destroy your film/ memory card

>>757702
It's just a picture. I mean, like I said I'd be polite about it, but I honestly don't think there's anything wrong with images or cameras. As far as I know, no child rapist has been arrested and found with hundreds of negatives or raw files of close-up street pictures of children. And one would have to be damn stupid to go and kidnap a kid he had just walked up to with a 50mm and snapped, and I'm sure security guards are at the very least no less likely to jerk themselves to pictures they capture than photographers shooting with normal and short lenses.

And despite that- I honestly hope I'm not creeping anyone out; even if I think they're being silly I don't want to make anyone upset, though thinking up troll-joke-phrases on 4chan is fun. And I don't think I routinely do, because I know I've taken more photographs of children than the two where people acted like I creeped them out, and closer ones, too; it's usually adults who think I'm taking pictures of them and start yelling "don't take my picture."

>>757708
Are you 2 fucking years old or something? What the fuck is it not to understand? Ever heard about please delete that picture and don't photograph my child?

>>757711
It has nothing to do with childmolesters or whatever. I'm not that paranoid. I'm not just comfortable with someone taking photos of my child, ok? If he had asked me might be allowed, but if someone just all of a sudden starts taking photos of my child I would feel uncomfortable about it and not allow it.

>>757709
if you destroy my memory card, i am fully within my means to break your face

you just assaulted me for no reason, i defended myself.

>>757713
lol, i take pictures of people's kids all the time

i know parents all think they're fucking he-man or something, but i'm a pretty scary guy and if i decide to take your picture, or a picture of your disgusting rat of a child, it's gonna happen.

>>757716

that's called harrassment

>>757717
I'll break your face now, bitch

>>757716
Internet tough guy eh
lol you're a retard.

>>757718
as long as you're out and about on public or even most private property, there are no laws stopping me from taking pictures

that means you have two choices when it comes to "stopping" me

1. get the police involved, who will inform you that you have no legal recourse
2. pop a cap in my ass

>>757722
that really depends on what country you're in boy

Just do it and keep walking
move fast

as long as you're out and about on public or even most private property, there are no laws stopping me from taking pictures

that means you have two choices when it comes to "stopping" me

1. get the police involved, who will inform you that you have no legal recourse
2. pop a cap in my ass

It sounds bad, but I just try not to get caught. I'd rather avoid the confrontation because I know I'll lose. If you don't like being in my photo, I'll delete it and make sure you see.

I don't take pics of kids without permission 90% of the time. But if your kid wonders into my shot, tough luck. I'm not getting rid of a good crowds shot because the top of you kids head it visible.
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How about not being a creep about it? Go up to them and say, "H, I'm doing street photography, mind if I take you picture?"

>>757733
Then you get people posing

You're all doing it wrong.

What are you doing?


-Taking pictures of (your coat, your hat, your glasses, your hair color), it's awesome!

Stop photographing my daughter, you freak!

-Oh, no-no-no, dude, it's (her hat, her dress, her face) ! She's so cute in it!

fags.

Shoot from the hip. People don't notice cameras unless it's up in your face.
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>>757735
one tip i got and have used to middling success is to tell them you want to take their photograph. then tell me to just sit there, no posing, while you get your settings right. of course you actually have your shit set and can get them not posing. then you take their stupid grinning bullshit photo that you send to them or just delete. not a perfect strategy but sometimes it works.

>>757748
I can't imagine that would ever give the same results as candid work.

>>757750
well of course not. but if you simply are taking portraits of people then it can work. like that japanese dude who had thousands and thousands of headshots of random people. cant think of his name right now.

like i said its a crapshoot. but if your cover is blown it might work depending on your goals.

>>757754
Nobuyoshi Araki

Just get businesscards made up.

Include your name, a professional sounding email address (i.e. not dragonbunny89@hotmail.com) and your website or flickr account address. (if you don't have an online presence, think about creating one).

If you can have them professionally printed.

If anyone asks, just casually explain that you're a street photographer, hand them your business card and offer to send them the finished result and take down their email address.

Who knows, it might even be beneficial to you, you could find yourself with employment opportunities

100 times better than a punch in the face from some new dad who thinks you're a pervert who wants to bone his 8 year old.

OP, just follow what happens in this clip.
http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/230782

>>757747

I've only ever been stopped when using my C330.

If you are (or look) between 13 and 25, just say you're doing it for a photography class. Offer to scroll through ALL your photos so they'll know that you're not just creeping on people, but taking photos of other stuff in general.

Most of the time they'll say no, but knowing that you're open to it, most people will relax. Also don't creep on people and offer. They might call your bluff.

If you are (or look) over 25, just continue lying. Maybe say something like "I work for the local paper and we get stock photography for some of our stories, and that's why I'm out shooting random shit".

OR, just be honest. Tell them that you find people interesting and wanted to capture people in general. If they say they're not comfortable with that, then tell them that you'll avoid shooting them but not pack up and leave.

>>757758
This is very effective. A pack of Avery business cards is less than $5.

>>757777
Dude go the extra mile
Design them in PS/Illustrator, and Zazzle accepts png files for both sides of business cards
I got like 75 nice half-size ones made of plastic for about 15 bucks, just make sure to look for any coupon codes before you order

Just go to a foreign town and take some good close photos and run away.

This is the safest way.

>>757747

It is amazing how an SLR puts people on guard, and a tiny rangefinder makes people spastically freak, but a giant TLR or MFSLR shot from the hip gets almost no notice at all.
When it does, it is nothing but positive comments, but usually no one even notices.

btw, concealed carry beats business cards. If a nod or a polite word or attempting to just quietly leave can't stop or calm down a potentially violent or assaultive person, a card won't either.
I have gotten out of every situation, save one, with only a calm polite professional appearance and demeanor, and that one exception I wasn't getting out alive with or without a stupid card. A small weapon is a key piece of street photography equipment, sorry to burst your bubble, but it is.

>>757803
>I wasn't getting out alive with or without a stupid card.
>I wasn't getting out alive
>I died
>I am dead
>I am posting on 4chan from beyond the grave
Jesus?

>>757803
Depends on where you shoot.

In all but the most unsafe neighborhoods, a concealed firearm will just get the cops involved rather than get people to back off.

1) find target
2) frame shot before you even bring up the camera
3) adjust your settings before you bring up the camera
4) aim, adjust, do a swift shot

Do all that without looking nervous or creepy and you'll be fine.

>>757809
Scouting every aspect out, and then only bringing the camera up to take the shot, and then putting the camera back down... All that looks way more suspicious than just holding the camera up in the general direction that you're looking.

>ITT tips and tricks for photographing strangers.

Just do it

>Need some good responses to things like "What the fuck are you doing"

"I'm taking pictures"

>"Stop photographing my daughter you freak"

"it's a free country fuck off asshole"

>>757815
OH MY GOD CHILDREN IN A PHOTOGRAPH! CP! CP!

>>757806

no. lrn2readingcomprehension.
I was armed, hence why I am here, as opposed to otherwise. Exactly why I would strongly suggest others do same.

>>757808

>In all but the most unsafe neighborhoods, a concealed firearm will just get the cops involved rather than get people to back off.

Please explain, that makes no sense at all.

First, a concealed (note concealed) firearm in any type of neighborhood is, well concealed and attracts no attention.

Second, no concealed weapon gets people to back off. Words do that.
If that fails, a weapon is there to protect you from harm. A weapon is designed to stop people, not make them back off.

Weapons don't come out until fired, only a dangerous idiot would wave one around thinking it would calm down a problem.

Are you suggesting perhaps waving one around to make people leave you alone? You are a moron then.

>>757829
>I shoot photos by day, but at night I shoot people
stool corey bro

>>757830

Seriously, is there no one else here with a CCW? I just had lunch with three much older pros a few days ago, and two have concealed permits. The one of the three who is retired from photography actually teaches certification for CCW now.
No kidding or trolling, I thought it was just pretty normal if unspoken thing to do in a job that requires wandering around town with thousands of dollars in obvious gear.

>>757840
>>757829
Maybe this is something that only street photographers do. I've never seen anyone else carry a weapon and nobody has ever said that they carry a weapon. I could only imagine it looking way more conspicuous 99% of the time, and ultimately I'd have to be pretty well-trained to make use of it the 1% of the time that I get attacked.

>>757864

Interesting. Thanks for that insight.

As for feeling conspicuous, it just becomes something like a belt, or keys, it is second nature and you forget its there pretty quickly.
You also HAVE to be well trained, that is even a requirement in most places.

The goal is not to have to use it, I have been punched and pushed to the ground, and otherwise assaulted while carrying, but no one was in serious danger so it stayed put.

It has only come out twice, and used once. That didn't even involve me, that was late at night when I tripped across a couple of girls, 15 and 16 y.o, getting attacked by four late-twenties guys and beaten pretty bad. They fled in a car with the plates covered up. You can guess what they would have had planned. Sherrifs got them at a roadblock, girls got paramedics, I got my gun back.

Kind of glad I had a CCW. Anyone think maybe I shouldn't have had one?

ITT: Americans

>>757892

also ITT: Jealous Europeans

>>757911
jealous of what? having to ask permission? having to take shit from uptight nobodies just for taking pictures? having to carry a gun just to do what you love?

or are we jealous of your food, women and quality of life?

>>757914

Thats right, you aren't afraid getting crap while taking pictures, as most of the time it is illegal there.
That and historically you are pretty good at standing by and ignoring atrocities happening to your fellow citizens. Gotta ask though, are you just as polite while being raped as while ignoring others being raped?

>>757915
http://patterson.no-art.info/activities/2008-07-16_arrested.html

Also, Jews weren't my fellow citizens. They were a subclass, a menace, and they needed to be purged. Sadly, the Nazis didn't finish the job. Luckily for humanity, the Jews have surrounded themselves with their enemies and are losing the trust of their only true ally. They'll be gone in a matter of decades.

Nobody will mourn them.

>>757918

0/10

too predictable. started out just too over-the-top for believability. too coherent for a drooling maniac rant.

>>757733
>>757731
i like you guys totally agree

How can I take pictures of children when I actually am attracted to them without being seen as a creep?

>>757944
take your hand out of your pants

or shave

Pick one:
[ ] Be a grown male
[ ] Take photos of children with out hassle

Pro trick: take a photo, if person looks annoyed, ask 'can I take your picture'. He/she will probably ask why do you want to take the picture - answer him/her like a fucking normal person. Person will be most likely OK with it (providing that you do not communicate like an idiot) and you have at least two shots of the subject. This is not rocket science.

>>757946
>like a fucking normal person
I'll try, but I don't have much practice

>>757946
>fucking normal
the harder I try

answer to entire thread is "because im a photographer"

>>758003
answer to this post is shut up

>>757691

>People who think cameras are dangerous weapons are at least as delusional as the peoples unfamiliar with photography who think cameras steal their souls.

Just because they're wrong doesn't mean that they wont kick the shit out of you and break/ steal your camera.

I'm glad I don't live in any of the violent (and paranoid) countries some of you do.

>>757803
You shouldn't be allowed to own weapons since you obviously you don't get what they are used for.

And don't get me wrong, I love guns (even if I don't have any because I don't need weapons right now), but you are retarded.

>>758036

um, fill us in then. What are they used for in your alternate dimension.

>>757705
>I can understand how having a kid would make me want to break the law.

That sounds so wrong

>>757803
Only in amerikkka

>>758054
obviously not for having the upper hand in an argument

but nevermind me,I don't live in america, I probably just don't understand.

>>758061
move to the uk if you like a place where people have no inherent right to defend themselves.

what would you have done in my place? walk away from those girls, or maybe just join in?

>>758066
obviously this >>757875 is the good way of using your ccw and you were pretty awesome for doing that.

But from THAT to implying that you NEED a gun to shoot pictures of strangers without problems, derp de durr.

>>758070

I don't need a gun to shoot pictures of strangers, I need a gun because to shoot good pictures of strangers means I am walking all over often strange major cities, often at night, and often near either the bar strips or industrial 'wrong side of the tracks' areas.
I could go out with only a camera if I wanted to play it safe and only stay close to home, nice neighborhoods, wander the malls, and be home by dark.
I like to go where the shots are, and sometimes those are not the always the best places to be or the best times to be there.

>>758077
Pussy

>>758070

It would have been a problem when I was out shooting at 1am and wandered into that mess, now wouldn't it? Sorry, but your point seems to invalidate itself there.

ccw is like a spare tire, you don't have to have one to go out, but it is bloody stupid to put your head in the sand and say with certainty you never will need one, so lets leave it at home.

>>757946
I am a five foot one white girl. I'm 23. People still get upset when I take pictures of their kids or they at least get freaked out. Still most time I ask when it's kids I plan on shooting.

>>758201

Can I get your email?

Taking pictures of kids is easy if you have your own

You fags are all pussies when someone whines at me I laugh in their face and take another picture

>>758226

you don't even own a camera

Everybody in this thread is a goddamn weirdo who has no concept of how to act in public.

Being kind will work much more than anything else. I've photographed strangers' infants that way. Kindness really works.

>>758262
welcome to 4chan

>>758269
Me again.

Oh my god, I just read this thread.

Whether or not it's your art that you're creating, it's still incredibly rude to photograph people without consent. It's also incredibly dissatisfying too. If you want someone to do something, nine times out of ten they'll do it if you're kind. I've taken photographs both ways and I've always gotten better results if I just asked.

It's not difficult. I usually say two sentences or less.
"Hi, I'm a photographer and I really love X about you. (Be honest, tell them why you like this shot.) Can I take your photograph?"

The only reason you might not want to be kind is if you wanted to capture the pain you're going to create if you shoot them without their consent. Like that scene in Koyaanisqatsi.

>>758269
You should ALWAYS ASK on infants. There is no reason not too.

If the person is an adult, I answer them normally and say, I take pictures of everything, don't take it personally.
If the person is a kid I ask their parents and hand them my card.

Photograph in public space (ie: streets, sidewalks, etc etc) If questioned reply with:
"Public place"
/thread

>>758273
>it's still incredibly rude to photograph people without consent

Lolfuckingno. It's a photograph, it doesn't do anything to them, take anything from them, etc. It happens to them anywhere from 10-30 times a second anytime they're in the view of a CCTV camera. It records nothing that everyone around them can't see.

>>758623
>implying so many things

Fallacy: you need permission to take a picture of someone

Look at those paparazzi assholes, they'll poke a camera right up a stranger's skirt

man
the
fuck
up

>>758628

you sound like you're 14

>What the fuck are you doing?
Taking pictures...
>Stop photographing my daughter you freak?
im a newfag here...
>Oh sorry... you can take pictures as much as you want to further enhance your inborn skill, my daughter thinks your a genius!
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>>758628
that doesn't mean they are acting in accordance with the law
and especially in australia and italy, the paparazzi don't have the rights they do elsewhere

>>758623
this is what rationalizing sounds like

have fun explaining that to a pissed off dad that thinks you're a pedo

I kind of find it funny how you kids actually consider taking a child's picture.

>>758637
>you kids

go back to bed

>>758626
Yes, I was implying many things.

They were and are all true.

>>758623
Not true. IT TAKES THEIR SOUL.

SOMEONE ASKS WHY YOU'RE TAKING PICTURES OF THEIR DAUGHTER.
GET SCARED AND NEVER PHOTOGRAPH ANYTHING EVER AGAIN. EVER.

"Hi, can I take your picture?"

most of you are incredibly creepy/antisocial. if you were taking my picture and I confronted you about it, I doubt any of you would SERIOUSLY try to talk down to me about why. if you did, I'd just break your fucking camera, you stupid faggot.

>>757691

Would any of you want your picture taken by a random person? What if that person was a fat, sweaty bearded man with a ponytail and thick rimmed glasses? I know I wouldn't.

>>758847
whoa
I've gotta admit I'm impressed

>>758847
when im walking down the street and I see you i'll make sure to go to the other sidewalk across the street so you won't beat me up.

>>758869

If someone crosses the street in front of me I chase them down and confront them

>>758847

We were gonna get a ITG in here eventually.

>>758869
>>758864

>>758873

you too: >>758874

True story:

I was getting an oil change at some local place, and while I was waiting I had my Canon 30D (with 70-300mm). I took a few snaps of my car from a distance, and just loafed around doing nothing.

I was about halfway through my first cigarette when some korean guy comes up to me. I'm totally confused, and I have no idea what the hell this guy wants. But he looks fuckin' pissed.

"WHY YOU TAKE PIK-CHUR!?" he yells at me. I'm not a confrontational guy, but this fucker deserved a punch in the face. Also, I'm fucking confused because his ass wasn't even in the frame. 70-300mm, and his car was barely in the shot.

I just looked him and said,"the fuck?"

>>758934
he looks back at me, totally pissed. "WHY PIK-CHUR????"

I'm getting a bit scared now, since I just saw his buddy pull up in a 7 series BMW. This guy's head is shaved and shit, and all of a sudden i'm thinking "oh fuck he's not korean, he's fucking Yakuza". the guy is like, late 40's, shaved head, dress shirt, and dress shoes. fuckin' yakuza, and i'm dead.

I flick my cigarette and said, "hey, I wasn't taking a picture of you. just messing around. relax" i don't know if my voice is trembling or whatever, but i'm kinda freaked out now..

he stares at me like i'm some piece of shit photography (i don't blame him; i'm standing there with a messenger bag and shorts...)

anyways, he stalks away, gets into his buddy's BMW, and tears off down the street.


that's the only time i've ever been confronted while taking a picture.

>>758937
damn sissy

>>758937

where the fuck do you live

>>758939
yeah, it was a sissy move. i'll admit that. but what the fuckkkk am i supposed to do? you're totally caught off guard and he's twice my age (i'm 23)...

>>758941
Southern California, USA.

More near the inland empire, where it's about 30% asian or something, 30% hispanic, 20% white, and 20% whatever else.

>>758859
>Would any of you want your picture taken by a random person?

My feelings would range from totally neutral to slightly positive, to extremely positive if it was actually good or they were some photographer of note.

This is assuming I actually noticed.

>What if that person was a fat, sweaty bearded man with a ponytail and thick rimmed glasses?

I really wouldn't give a shit. It just doesn't fucking matter.

>>758937

my verson would go like this his buddy get out of the car and starts walking toward me. i have my back turned to just to show how bad ass i'am and showing some disrespect. i hear him get closer so i turn around with my cig hanging from my lips.

he get close to me about 6 feet away and just looks at me with a disgusting face. i reach for my lighter and lig my cig i take a deep breath and blow an almost perfect line of smoke right into his eyes.

he freaks out run up to me and grabs my arm but i see his eyes watering. i twist my arm and he lets go of mine i shove his shoulder to throw him off blance but keep close to his body i see he has a gun tucked in his pants on his back.

i grab the gun and in one full motion i drop kick him and shoot his partner in the head then clamy walk into the sun set

>>758951 clamy

you had me until this point

>>758951
ITT not-even-adolescent fantasies, and/or scripts for exceptionally bad John Woo movies. Just add doves.

>>758951
WAIT....are you tryin to do sex to him?

>>758956

ok

>i drop kick him and shoot his partner in the head then clamy walk into the sun set as doves fly out of my ass

satisfied?

sure is newfag in here. seriously, grow a pair.
I've had the cops called on me, and they always say the same thing: "Do you do family portraits? My wife's been hasseling me about getting one done."
I had no less than 3 cops stop and talk to me in Germantown, TN while I was taking some 5 minute pics on the side of the road last week. Most know what a 'reasonable expectation of privacy means' and those that don't are usually willing to listen as long as you talk in a calm and respectful manner.

>>758951

i was holding a canon 30D (about 1lb?) and a 70-300mm lens (maybe 2lbs? 3lbs tops?), as well as a messenger bag (maybe 5lbs?).

i was looking for an oil change, not my ass kicked or his blood on my lens. i didn't have a filter on that day, and it would've been a bitch to clean off.

Just use that DSLR as a battle mace

So I decided to put some of the tips you idiots gave in here.

I tried several awnswers and overall the one with more positive results was.
Q: What are you doing?/Why are you taking pictures of me?
A: Sorry. It's just that I really like the way you look.

>>759013

FUCKING CREEPY.

>>759013
yeah, this would only work on hipster girls going to the bar

>>758949
>It just doesn't fucking matter.
I think it does

>>758949
Thanks but I was looking for an honest answer not a fake one to show what a "cool guy" you are

>>759042
Why? Why does someone allowing light reflected off your body to pass through a lens onto a light-sensitive material, where after processing it will form an image of you matter?

>>759046
That... is an honest answer. What makes you think it's dishonest?

fap away
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Interesting topic. I'm yet to experience such questions about me taking pictures since i'm just starting and bought my camera only few days ago. I think being polite is a good way to go. Also - I'd carry with me some sort of buissness card, and I'd hand them to people saying "hey, if you like - mail me and i'll send you your photo." Or carry a little notebook and pencil and tell them to give me their email and that i'll send them the picture if it's any good. I think this may change the situation form "anonymous creepy stranger takink pictures of you/your child" to "just some guy taking photos".
I think if you're willing to do something for them (send the pic) they'll be less antaginistic. Just an idea. Granted - it might make you take a lot of notes (with the 2nd option) but it might be worth it - slight possibility of making an interesting acquaintence.

>>759261
What really helps me, is removing my hand from my penis while taking the picture. I had to get a tripod for this.
but its worked really well, I rather stroke my dick in my own house looking at the pictures anyway.

>>759261
Too bad I'm from the UK

Photographing kids and then asking them for their email takes you from a simple civil infraction to a more serious crime of "child grooming".

You're looking at a prison term of 12 months and at least 5 years of restricted movement and signing a 'register' of sex offenders. don't expect to get a job any time soon.

>>759303
I seriously think that malice is in the eye of the beholder, if you look like perv, you'll have issues. no matter how clean your intentions. in the same way, if you let the issue get to you' you'll look like a perv.

JUst go out there and if you want to take a picture of a little kid rimming some dude's asshole go for it...

>>759303
Don't ask the kid. Ask their parent. I thought that was clear. A kid probably won't confront you about taking their picture. And you ask for/give e-mail only when confronted.

When asking a parent for permission to take a picture of their kid, avoid using the terms "sexy" or "hawt". I learned that the hard way.

Also, parents are incredibly unlikely to say yes if you happen to be on a beach.

>>759327
Yeah.. taking children's pictures on a beach would be harder to justify to a parent. In general taking people's pictures on a beach makes you look like someone who's going to jack off to them later. Also I imagine all that sand can't be good for the camera.

Protip: Street photography is bullshit. All those awesome shots from New York in the 40s and 50s, mostly set ups.

If you want to take good photographs, you need to think about what you are doing before hand. You might have to actually get to know your subjects as well. All that shit about "the magic of the moment", and "the best camera is the one you are carrying" is just marketing bullshit.

>>759336

Tell them that they are in public, and they really can't do anything about it. If they don't want they're picture taken, they can just leave or move.

Or if they do ask to not take pictures of them/of their kids, just apologize and leave so you don't completely seem like some creeper/pedophile, even if you are :3

>implying anyone here actually takes photos of kids

i hope not

>>759336

I hate to say it, but pretty much all of the 'good' street photography I have done, certainly the only salable stuff, was indeed set-up faux 'candid' work. Even if it wasn't done with a model, it was done with interested passerby. In either case they were taking direction.
I thought I was just cheating because I was lazy and suck. Perhaps there is more to it, go all the way back to weegee and beyond.
Is true candid 'street' the photographic equivalent of the emperors new clothes? Has it ever existed?

These thread has given me good advice, because I was challenged at least once.

The first area, invasion of privacy, generally occurs for photographers when taking the photo.

But you violate someone's "right of privacy" only when that person has a "reasonable expectation of privacy." As put forth in the Restatement of Torts 2d, Section 652B, a violation occurs with:

"The intentional intrusion upon the solitude or seclusion of another or his private affairs or concerns that would be highly offensive to a reasonable person." Each state may adopt this section in whole or in part.

The use of the term "highly offensive" is key. When someone is in public, even if on private property with limited access, that person likely doesn't have an expectation of privacy.

Take, for example, the case, Furman v. Sheppard, from Maryland. Furman had sued Sheppard for personal injuries. Sheppard trespassed onto private property at the Maryland Yaught Club to videotape Furman while he was on a boat. Furman thus claimed Sheppard violated his expectation of privacy. The court disagreed.

While the court considered the fact that Furman's expectation of privacy was reduced because he had filed a lawsuit against Sheppard, the court also evaluated other important factors to find that Furman did not have a reasonable expectation of privacy, such as:

>>759502
"an individual's reasonable expectation of privacy reaches its zenith in the home."

"business and commercial enterprises generally are not as private as a residence . . . although a club operated for a select clientele may not be public, 'the fact that the premises are maintained as a club with a membership policy is not conclusive in favor of the club. Failure to enforce limitations on admittance would warrant the conclusion that the persons operating the club had no reasonable expectations of privacy."

"appellant's activities could be observed by passers by. To this extent appellant has exposed [himself] to public observation and therefore is not entitled to the same degree of privacy that [he] would enjoy within the confines of her own home."


A person's expectation of privacy is specifically defined by each state, but each state's privacy standard is similar to the Restatement section cited above. To be sure of whether your photography activities violate another's expectation of privacy, check with your attorney.


Of course this is all US Stuff

>>757679

don't walk your dog in front of my abode
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>>759411 Perhaps there is more to it, go all the way back to weegee and beyond.

Weegee was a photojournalist, very different than a "street photographer"

http://www.rcfp.org/photoguide/intro.html

>>759509
>>759510
gb2AnT

>>759513

How are they that different? Those lines seem pretty arbitrary and depend mostly on what you do with the pictures afterward.
Documenting is documenting.

They aren't really ANY different, unless you are one of those people who think 'street photography' is an high sounding term to hide behind while taking pictures of girls butts.

The real question is why the fuck are you taking pictures of kids anyway?

>>759535
Why not? Your question's the wrong way round in a liberal society.

Just do it. No second thoughts.
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God I love stalking....
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>>759543
>>759546

not sure if want...
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>>759535
why the fuck are you taking pictures of ...
puppies?
cats?

>>759543
>>759546

That is not 'street' photography, and you are not a photographer. You are just a perv with a camera. DIAF.

>>759546
I'm embarrassed to have the same phone as that whale.

>>759562
exactly the same thing.

"Why are you taking photos of my kid?"

"Exchange 'kid' for cat, dog, tree, car"

"what?"

"Precisely"

Walk away smiling.

>>759599

if a tree could move it would kick your ass

>>759336
THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS THIS

OH GOOD LORD CHILDREN AT PLAY WHAT A PEDO

>>759680

>>759562
youre no authority on art mister man

>>759562

Oh stop being so butthurt. You just don't have the balls to do it.

>>759688

On the contrary, I DO do street. Problem is, I catch shit all the time from people thinking I am some kind of creep precisely because of, well, your kind of creep just shooting teenage girls cleavage and bragging about stalking.
Pervs like you are exactly why people feel the need to assault actual photographers like me, which is why I have to have a CCW, so that you can conveniently call me a homicidal psycho when you aren't alternately saying I have no balls at all.
In short, Fuck You.

>>759696
>I do do

giggle

>>759696

why don't you just find a new hobby

>>759696
an hero nao!

sure is smelling samefag in here

You are on a slippery slope to becoming a Rapist.

Sir, I salute you!