Sorry, but people have been doing great wet printing manipulations long before photoshop ever existed.

Just look up Jerry Ueslmann

fine arts is bullshit,
so i agree

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"I THINK THAT THE PHOTOGRAPHER SHOULD HAVE THE FREEDOM TO DO WHAT THEY WANT WITH THEIR PHOTOS.." I am not sure about that, if I paying a "professional" to do my photos then I have the creative choice. If its washed out , then it goes in the trash, if i am squinting because the sun is my eyes then it goes in the trash, no cropping done to remove most the garbage to the sides of the photo then it goes into the trash, poor bokeh then to the trash. As a proffesional has some freedom but if the freedom isnt what I the consumer wants then I the consumer would not pay and move to another professional. This leads back to post editing, hmmmm. So, some freedom given and taken away. As a hobbyist I would assume that photos I take are all my freedoms and not linked or strangled by someone else's choice. If I were to be hired by someone to take photos for them, then their choice , designs, their freedoms would have to be included and thus my freedom becomes second to the consumer the person paying.

>>542838
op is talking about photography as an art form, not a commercial entity. your argument is redundant in this case. you have a point though.

i feel i am a purest of sorts- i do not manipulate my photos or crop or even use a tripod- no filters or anything- however i have seen some beautiful works that are stunning and manipulated and that i feel are very valid forms of art- i dislike others that only use technology and do not have dedication or even a basis in strict ethic of knowledge- just "point and clicking" has its place too- just not the frequency i have observed or the kids at my college saying how they will "just fix it in *blank* program"- i feel its lazy and diluting the talent pool- i dont mind using these things as long as there is a responsibility of sorts used/

>>542855
Troll
8/10

>>542856-
in what way did i "troll" exactly?/

>>542856
he's not a troll, he's just a fucking moron.

>>542860
i've seen your shots on da, you shoot outside during the day, why would you need a tripod? fuckhead.

>>542863-
you can have your bitter opinion- your lonely/malificient ridicule- tools are used how the perso using them see fit- so using a tripod outdoors at any time would be an option that seems up to that individual if they chose- you can only use it in certain circumstances now?- also you have like maybe nine pictures of mine available to look at and with them youve deduced that i ONLY take photos outside in the daytime?- great work batman- you have won!(moron?- scathing comments over the internet do not suite anyone)/

>>542865
go away you self righteous newfag

and stop ending all your posts with '/'

better yet just stop posting at all

>>542891-
better yet make me- better yet stop using memes- using terms like "newfag" and hostility only make me feel that i threaten you or bother you because you are weak minded and dultish- stop pandering to a mind set that you are an authority to order others around while you give typed orders- you call the orderee "self righteous"- no- thats not hypocrisy at all/

Wether a hobbyist, novice, amateur,artisan, semi pro or professional, one the hardest part is taken the criticism and using it to your advantage, listen to what they say and accepting it. Maybe your photo does look like shit or maybe it is great but a getting all pissy about the criticism is what makes your photo even more shitty. Why, because you refuse to listen to others, now that being said I don't give a shit about anyones opinions but when it comes down to a photo that is going to require effort and I want to impress myself I will recall upon some of the opinions in the back of mind and make suttle changes to angles, depth, etc...

>>542908-
These little typing quirks of yours- make me want to stab you in the face/

Stab away ac .............Here is some more for you.I think that post editing photos is a very key element today in photography, since there is not one professional out there that doesn't do some type of post editing to their photos. Post editing doesn't state that there is a lack of skills. Post editing is a skill to be learned and is just as important as taking the photo, any professional would know that a washed out portrait could be easily remedy by some post editing, any professional would know that a portrait of a person with a blemish could be easily remedy with some post editing. Any professional would know that proper cropping and proper bokeh would make a good photo. Any professional would know a vignette or lomography could enhance the feeling of photo. Since professional photography is about the sale of work and the returning of consumers to the photographers "up sell", also getting referrals from satisfied consumers, so, not post editing would make this difficult to do. Maybe, skill should lay in the selling of and not taken of.

>with the invention of digital manipulation, photoshop,

Key word here is digital. Why do you think they call them brushes?

>>542990-
you too then- it take nothing to post online- wants of violence or what you can do- you would cheer on someones act of stabbing another in the face over how they type?- and you think what you have to type on any other matter is valid after that?- i wish on you WHATEVER negative and horrible things you bring upon yourself and pine for the thought of you and i physically fighting- the thought of the chance to cripple you after you typed brings me vengeful joy and that much more fuel to train with/

>>542997
Go DIAF, faggot.

>>542998-
make me or gag on broken glass- you pitiful wretch/

I don't know what style a hobbyist/artisan has, beside being a hobbyist/artisan in taken pictures, I do know that there is a desire to take photos good, bad or "great" and being limited to doing just one type of photography would be devastating. Don't limit photography to one style, I read that any professional photographer would have to take over 20,000 photos before even coming close to mastering a status of being a professional. Use the tools to your advantage, integrated into photography are these tools that at one time was limited to only a few, but now the masses have taken these tools to the next level.

>>543000
That typing style is going to make everyone hate you wherever you go on the Internet. Why do it? Do you just relish being hated by everyone everywhere you go?

Hell, I even agree with some of your points, but you're expressing yourself in just about the most aggravating style I've ever seen on /p/. It's even worse than doing nothing but posting pictures of Meg Ryan.

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"It is this level of manipulation that finally has secured photography's place among the fine arts."


It's not that I don't appreciate their interest in the art, it's more about the frustration that I feel when they take no heed to things like composition and post-processing; it's just pictures of trendy items taken at eye-level with the same photoshop filter applied to it so that the colors look washed out and "vintage". They never strive to get better, instead they excuse their numerous gaps in skill as "part of their style" and say that good art is wholly subjective.

That's what gets me though; I hold it to be true that good artwork demonstrates mastery of the craft. That said, is there any method you guys employ to get that point across to those who cover up lack of skill with the "style" argument or the "good art is whatever you want it to be, man" argument? Does anyone else get frustrated by this?"
Quoted: Anonymous 08/31/09(Mon)

>>543002-
on the same coin though- a lot of thes fledgling artists abuse these options- i feel- when i look at "lazy art" packaged as grandiose- it gets a little upsetting some times- of course there is some jealousy involved too- my art- even the scant amount thats been paid for by others- is not paying my bills and is still a hobby- when i see people with less "skills"(seemingly)- with more work and larger catalogs...- thats when i question why i havent broken that threshold and done more- then i realize i have other things i do for money and my time for art is religates to a few trips/vacations and sketching here and there/

>>543003-
then why didnt you type that firstly?- being agitated is no excuse for wishing harm or expressing the want to harm others directly- i am a powerful man- i push myself and get little chance to enjoy life with what barages me- you and people like you do not ask first and try to understand- its all what they want to do over something trivial- that they could over look or choose not to read- days like this- when i am able to type here- are my days- to type however i please- after seeing memes and stupidity rampent here- thats is what angers me with all of this- that others type quips that are practically deranged and to most they are passive- while i am threatened and bombarded with anger over a few dashes and slashes that even use the system of "normal" typing and correctly used words- yet i get called a "moron"- i never get called one to my face and i almost truly want one of the people that does this to me here- to have the chance to posture this way in person/

>>543021
>then why didnt you type that firstly?
Because it's the most goddamn annoying way to type I've seen in a long-ass time and I was momentarily consumed with rage.

>after seeing memes and stupidity rampent here- thats is what angers me with all of this- that others type quips that are practically deranged and to most they are passive- while i am threatened and bombarded with anger over a few dashes and slashes that even use the system of "normal" typing and correctly used words-
Getting annoyed with people using memes and mean comments on 4chan is like going to Paris and being annoyed that everyone's speaking French. This is the idiom of 4chan. If you don't like it, why the hell are you here?

>yet i get called a "moron"- i never get called one to my face
I'd bet a nickel, based on the way you comport yourself, that a significant fraction of the people you know in real life are calling you a moron (or a pretentious twat, or whatever) behind your back.

>>543021
AFFECTATION:
- behavior intended to impress: feigned or unnatural behavior that is often meant to impress others
- act intended to impress: an appearance or manner assumed as a show or pretense, often to impress others

I personally think MY opinions are so damned important that I go to great lengths to ensure that they reach the widest possible audience.
Your opinions are banal, so you use an irritating method of delivery to ensure that they irritate the widest possible audience.
I applaud you as an artist.

>>543021

are you new to the internet?

"BUT YOU DON'T SEE ME ON HERE BLASTING YOUR STYLE..." hence the name of the blog "Photography rant" I don't recall you or anything on here pointing to you in anyway. I don't think there is anything in here referring to you at all after rereading it again. It is interesting that you read the blog but its actually two different comments on two differ subjects. For whatever reason your assumption is very wrong. I don't know what style a hobbyist/artisan has, beside being a hobbyist/artisan in taken pictures, I do know that there is a desire to take photos good, bad or "great" and being limited to doing just one type of photography would be devastating. Don't limit photography to one style, I read that any professional photographer would have to take over 20,000 photos before even coming close to mastering a status of being a professional. Accept it.

READ A FEW OF MY FAVORITE QUOTES.....MAYBE IT WILL HELP YOU WITH YOUR "RAGE" AGAINST NEWBIES TO THIS PROFESSION!!!
Maybe because it's entirely an artist's eye, patience and skill that makes an image and not his tools.
~Ken Rockwell
No matter how advanced your camera you still need to be responsible for getting it to the right place at the right time and pointing it in the right direction to get the photo you want.
~Ken Rockwell
Photography, as a powerful medium of expression and communications, offers an infinite variety of perception, interpretation and execution.
~Ansel Adams

>>543027-
even if they did- they do so behind my back because they have a merrit of common decency- look at the increase of higher echelon words you are going out of your way to use now- you can argue that you havent ramped anyhting up- that how you type now versus then has not changed or that any change is that you are now "calmed down" but the point remains that you feel threatened and that is laughable to me- point out what i did thats "wrong"= impose your truth upon my shoulders and try to enforce the burden of your exhaulting splender and fortitude of being the deity of all that is correct- or just realize that you made a big damn deal out of nothing because you have had a moment of weakness and displayed yourself as the tpe of person that one would assume- has them often-
>>543028-
you are a twit if you think that a word i need defined- or your slanderous overtones effective->>543030-
whats the internet?/

Dear ol' Ken Rockwell is somewhat of a strange bird, I am torn between I am photographer or am I a camera reviewer. Not to keened on any quotes from him, but he does have useful points mostly blah blah from him. Buy this camera, no wait buy this camera, no wait buy this one, oh its best to shoot an outside portrait in the afternoon sunlight, the light is softer etc........tip of the day , blah.... I am famous ,look they made video of me at B&H photo in New York..... so I must be "Great"....

Ansel Adam, at times is very overrated , large format with a vast array of landscape. Back in his time the photos where the shit, the rage, the wow factor of then. But that's when the nobody else had a large format camera and out traveling the United States landscape, he gave to us the great ideal of what the rest of the world looked like if you lived in that time period. Ansel has been so overlty redone, copied by so many people. Those people have taken that away from him and his photos. Back then most of the photos where of trains coming down the tracks, since that was the great transportation movement or it was used for capturing the bandits dead in their coffin outside the sheriffs office and portraits of people of oddity or of money.

>>543042
>they do so behind my back because they have a merrit of common decency
Again, if you're looking for decency, you're looking for it in the wrong place. This is 4chan.

Every time you type like you do, it will turn the thread into a discussion of how annoying it is for you to type the way you do. If you don't like that, well, I think I speak for everyone when I say we'd be just tickled if you'd GTFO.

>>543044

your flimsy grasp of the history of photography. it amuses me.

>>543044
Fuck I love that kinda shit.

Why would AC and Wolfchan steal this thread?

Just for no good reason but to be the subject at hand.

So, back to the thread subject. Photography is a total manipulation from start to finish. It's expected to have some type of post editing done .
It only becomes artistic when someone says "Hey that's art".
You will never go back to a true film industry any more.

I really don't think it's a "flimsy grasp" but a reality of today's time in photography.

>>543042

I actually can't even read what you type, its too fucking annoying.

>>543183
>You will never go back to a true film industry any more.
This implies that you think there was no postproduction done in the film days. Pro tip: Dodge, burn, and unsharp mask all existed long before Photoshop.

>>542855

>i feel i am a purest of sorts- i do not manipulate my photos or crop or even use a tripod- no filters or anything

I lol'd

holy shit wolfchan/

9.5/10

good show good show

>>542855
>i am a purest of sorts- i do not... use a tripod

Tripods have been around since the camera was invented you moron. HANDHELD photography is less pure than tripod photography.

Fucking hipster artmajor thinks he knows shit.

God I hate douche bag know it alls.

Ansel Adams always likened photography to music. Every piece of music starts with the composition. Music on a sheet of paper. That's your film transparency/RAW digital data. However the way in which that composition is interpreted, and performed varies GREATLY depending on the people arranging it, and the people performing it. This is the photo print, and depending on the degree of manipulation/interpretation, the result might seem shockingly different from the source... but regardless of how different the infinite combinations of possibilities... they all start from the same source.

Fucking Ansel Adams. Talking about photographic manipulation.

You fucking purists who think photoshop takes away from photography can suck a fucking dick. You don't know shit. Photoshop just makes it so hipster doofus' like you can do it without years of observation and training. Hell, if it wasn't for digital, hipster doofus' wouldn't be into photography in the first place.

Shit makes me want to actually take the plunge and buy the M3 I've had my eye on, and get my darkroom back up. Just so I can take pictures as fucking differently from Wolfchan as possible.

>>543228
I think doofii is the plural. Other than that you're good to go.

Your "implie" I believe is wrong to what is said. Postproduction and the begining photography go hand in hand........
It still remains a fact that film as gone to the wayside and not returning anytime soon. Move over here comes new technology. Here comes new post editing techniques etc...blah blah blah

to: everyone.
see:
>>542727

ITT: trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls pissing in an ocean of piss

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>>542865

Try taking a picture in the dark with out a tripod and enjoy your shit photo, purest fucktard.

that shoop sucks

>>543198=
and what the "lol" factor here?- is it>>543213s point?- or some other flacid point that you will make up to try and scorn me?- as for the other poster- they HAD to use tripods for their setups- it was because of weight and equipment- not quality of the photo- and in a collection of interviews of past photographers(i maybe read over eight years ago in my exausting research i do in every subject i attempt to become proficient in) the use of hand weilding the camera referred to in by almost all of these great artists- as the truer skill set of the photographer- the test of that photographers merit and skill and ability- besides- even with out that- what a flippant try at gouging at me- it is pathetic-
>>543274-
im a "fucktard"- ive proven that i am not- unless you are simple and this is what you are resorted to calling me- over the internet- out of weak/foolish jealousy- my photos come out great all the time- at any time in the twenty four hours in which i take them- i wasnt shitting on tripod use- i use them when i feel i need to- maybe i should have typed that "i only rarely us a tripod- as i feel that was the goal of better artists then i"- oh ignorance...-"we dont like yer typing so we will try to make you feel like we feel when we upuhn read yer posts and riddle yer posts soundly with you being a douchefaggotturdamitron- hehehheee"- its not clever- its not making me anymore "wrong" nor you any more "correct"-
>>543228-
i own four cameras- two "analog" two digital- your photos will merely be different in that you have less talent as you have put no link up- you make wild assumptions- and you do things out of spite(or at kleast claim the want to)-

oh and-
>>543183-
well if you read- i have merely replied- not "started"- anything- you are right though if you simply mean that i shouldnt reply to internet accusations- it is one of the weakest things i do- i have no excuse for it- i will boast that my first post in this thread was on point- and ive tried to even answer the none lunacy driven posts that i feel i have right to- if you had rampent uncivility nipping at you- how would you react?/

>>543395

>and what the "lol" factor here?- is it>>543213s point?- or some other flacid point that you will make up to try and scorn me?

I lol'd because you implied (well plain said really) that not manipulating, cropping, using a tripod or filters is somehow "purer" than other kinds of photography. Do you also avoid variable contrast paper or color film because of their impurities?

Seriously though, 11/10 A++

>>543417-
i feel how i do things is in line with being a form of purest- its an opinion- if its a laughable one to you fine- just scoff at what you assume you are better at- online- your rating is idiotic/

the old lady is the original picture. which is crazy.

>>543470
well the younger one does not even look real,
so it's not shocking.

also the government has been shooping photos since stuff like the jfk assassination /tinfoilhat

>>543480

If he posted the younger picture without the older picture, other thank thinking it looked airbrushed like a magazine spread, you wouldn't say "fake".

>>543461

There's nothing pure or impure about limiting yourself in arbitrary ways.

>just scoff at what you assume you are better at

Stop trying to make it look like I'M the one with a superiority complex here, you're the one scoffing at us lowly mortals and our "impure" tripods and filters.

There's nothing wrong with shooting without a tripod, in fact I try to avoid one unless I absolutely need it because I hate carrying it, but don't paint it like someone is a "purer" photographer if they handhold all their photographs and don't dodge or burn.

>>543512-
"i feel how i do things is in line with being a form of purest- its an opinion-"- i do not believe that the issue is with how i feel- as much as how you percieve how i feel...("lowly mortals"?- i post nothing to assume that i am that pompous- lick your wounds already and stop lashing out- fuck/

have you not heard of Ansel Adams, Stieglitz, Steichen, Mapplethorpe, or even modern photographers like Cindy Sherman?

Photography doesn't need manipulation to be a fine art. gtfo.

>>543544-
to whom is that aimed at?/

>>543541

Let's go through the logic of this slowly
P1) Not using tripods, filters, editing or cropping is in line with the "purest" sort of photography
C) Photographers who DO use tripods, filters, editing, and crops are less pure.

>its an opinion

Yes, and a stupid one, that was my point.

>i post nothing to assume that i am that pompous

You know, except when you said;

>i feel i am a purest of sorts- i do not manipulate my photos or crop or even use a tripod- no filters or anything

>>543557

Grammar fail

>>543561-
you are offended with my proposed method- its mine and to me its pure because it is what i idealize as such- what i have developed over my life thus far and concluded to this point- it can change in the next second- less then that even- i could come to an epiphany and take back all i have typed and even the way i typed it- that is how opinion can work- yet yours is better then mine?- why?- you can not answer that and if you can it had better be the most important thing you have typed- because it would take a masterpiece to make me feel humble after someone that has portrayed themselves as you have- your opinion of my opinion is just that to me- and that you impress and allude that i am stupid for it- is one of the most foolish things i have seen in all of the three years ive been on 4chan(and i have polished that position twice- emphasizing that i do not feel i am any better for what i do then anyone else and that i have seen brilliant pieces using the methods i do not often employ- grow the fuck up)-
>>543562-
then proof read it and proclaim yourself the master of typed form and propensity/

>>543591
You are trying way too hard to sound intelligent.

Could someone link me to wolfy's work-I'm curious to see his pure style - it intrigues me much. Thanks/

>>543591

>you are offended with my proposed method

Incorrect broski, your method is your method, I don't care. Just don't act like your method is "purer" than everyone else's.

>to me its pure because it is what i idealize as such

Yeah that's where the stupidity part comes in.

>yet yours is better then mine?

Yes, it is. In my opinion, photographs that have been taken with tripods, or a filter, or that have been dodged or burned are no less pure than those that have not used these methods. That is my opinion and it is superior to yours.

>why?

Because you are arbitrarily declaring some methods to decrease the purity of photography, and have based this opinion on nothing.

>you impress and allude that i am stupid for it

No, I am straight out saying that you are stupid for it, pay attention.

>i have polished that position twice- emphasizing that i do not feel i am any better for what i do then anyone else

Right, not better, just "purer."

>i have seen brilliant pieces using the methods i do not often employ

They're just impure.

>>543613

see>>542834

>>542726
You suck, your photography sucks, and your method sucks.
Gtfo, the game, and also, /thread.

I like my photography like I like my race, and vanilla extract.

Pure.

>>543611-
first- inteligence is a measure of how and how much you can use/become smart- you mean i am trying too hard to SEEM(as this is a visual medium) "smart"(and i am not trying all that hard at all)-
>>543613-
second- i have a thread of my work on deviantart- with a link to it- the purety has been explained as my method and you are confusing it with me believing my work posted to be an epitome of my method- in my "da" i often write of what is wrong with my work more then what is correct- i do not believe i have mastered my process and i am working toward that goal(using my method)- nor is what i post- anything i consider the sum of my artistic value or capability- i want to get paid for my best work and posting it here or on "da" is not the best way to do so(i feel)/

>>543591

Ive had enough of your crap. Your an idiot.

You call yourself more "pure" because you prefer not to use filters and tripods and the like. This is all the same shit; lenses, tripods, filters, remotes, speedflashes, softboxes, studio lighting, lightning triggers, halo flashes, macro focus rails, pano heads for tripods, getting the picture? There all tools in photography, tools to get just the look you want, photoshop is too (back the the original thread). By saying you dont use them, your telling us you suck and all your pictures are taken in the same old way, figure your depth of field and set aperture accordingly, meter it, set exposure time, white balance. and then hold the camera as still as you can and push a button.

Your a fucking moron, i called you a fucktard earlier and i meant it. eat my shit.

>>543628

YEAH WHITE POWER!

>>543616-
aw does hims want a lolli?- itll be okay champ- the more you sorrect me- the more "right" you become- you are the man and i am just awful- YOU WIN- now take off that shirt and scream "goooooal"/

>>543631

>figure your depth of field and set aperture accordingly, meter it, set exposure time, white balance.

Those are all impure

>>543631-
make me pussy- you are a moronpussyfag- lol/

>>543631
>By saying you dont use them, your telling us you suck and all your pictures are taken in the same old way, figure your depth of field and set aperture accordingly, meter it, set exposure time, white balance. and then hold the camera as still as you can and push a button.

Wolfchan is an idiot, but if you actually believe what you just said, you're a fucking retard.

All photography is "just pointing one thing at another thing, and pressing a button", if you want to break it down to it's core. Taking pictures the way he chooses to take pictures is just fine. The thing that makes him an idiot is that he goes around bragging about it, and I'm sure he make a conscious effort not to break from this method simply because it's his "ideal". That makes him an idiot.

But taking pictures without using other gear isn't bad, or unworthy.

>>543637

I'm sorry, your post made no sense.

Thank you have a nice day fucktard, oh i mean, "wolfchan"...

Christ

Wolfy over explains things - I never said it was the epitome of your work - I just wanted to see what you mean by 'pure style'. Geessh/

>>543635

I want a loli.

>>543639
I posted that, im not disagreeing with you. Its just that he says he is "more pure" I take pretty good photos with the minimal gear i have and my D70 and im happy, but i sure as hell wish i could afford some of the fancier things in the photography world.

This fag here >>543639

>>543647

I also use a D70. My D70 has a fucked up top LCD. I've put easily 50-60 thousand exposures through it. Things a fucking champ.

I think we agree perfectly about what photography should be. I actually prefer not to use all sorts of extra gear. I use the occasional filter, of course I use a tripod (like... WTF? Who thinks tripods aren't pure photography?), and I use studio strobes when I'm doing indoor portraits, but I think a lot of extra gear can get in the way of the photograph. Oh, and of course I'll use photoshop, but I hate the overprocessed crap so abundant on Deviant Art. With digital photography, if you're not bumping up the brightness/contrast a hair you're probably not shooting correctly in camera.

Wolfchan is a total douche. If nothing else, I'd buy the first beer so we could make fun of that fag.

>>543635

I think I'm done here....

>>543680-
im not anything that any of you have typed- my point has been missed- if you cant keep up- you blame me for it- drink a fucking beer and waste your time lording over a persona of someone on the internet- most of life can be summed up as a waste- what is the difference how you waste it- the lot of those that have attempted deflamitory idiocy- while calling me "idiot/moron/stupid"- just keep on doing it for as long as you choose- pathetic- why should i bother redefining my postions- you made your conclusions based on how you feel about what is typed- rather then what is typed itself...- dumb/

>>543734

stop- fucking- over-using- hyphens.

>>543734

>why should i bother redefining my postions

because your positions are wrong.

Thread also archived

>>543734

Can you "redefine" whats wrong with a tripod, especially considering your issue is "purity", and the first cameras were mounted on tripods?

>>543745-
re read- say it allowed if you can- how i type isnt that hard- and if it is- i feel sorry for you- who knew people loved the damn tripod so fucking much?-
>>543735-
they replace how you use(or dont use)- "commas/periods/whatever- no one that has ever had issue with how or what i type- has ever corrected what i have typed nor used FLAWLESS grammar- ever- in three years/

>>543744
how does one go about archiving a thread?

>>543775

In safari you can do file>save as and it saves as a .webarchive file which contains all the text and images (though not the full size images).

You can probably do the save thing in firefox or IE or whatever.

I'm gonna have to resave it if this keeps going

>>543770

LOL, has anyone really been far even as decided to use even go want to do look more like?

>>543770

Thats the wrong allowed numb nuts, its "aloud". And people dont love the tripod, people know the tripod can be absolutely necessary. Also, what you type, and "what is typed" are the same thing. We read both and there both wrong, so you fail.

How old are you anyways?

Fucktard :-D

>>543770
>ever- in three years/

what the shit?
everything you say is arbitrary and retarded

I'm also purist.

>>543784-
ah no- i made a mistake or maybe even three- i must be a "fucktard" then- can i polish your pedestal?- ooops i meant may i- me am just so dumb now/
>>543785-
everything i type- ever- its forever this way- always/

>>543274
>>543631
>>543641
>>543647
>>543784

Samefag for the records.

>>543680

You made my day man, Its all so true. Sure good pictures can be taken with basic gear. but some of the really tricky ones cant. So this makes the tricky ones less pure because we couldnt do them? all a bunch of fuckery if you ask me. if i ever bump into you (doubt it but oh well), beers on me man.

ITT: Wolfchan gives Katie a run for her money

>>543801
Samefag again.

>>543799

You've been torn a new asshole for your stupidity, and your too stupid to realize it.

Now GTFO.

/thread

>>543804
:(

>>543806-
ouch- my new asshole hurts...- so- so much- anyone have some icy hot?- if you truely think that- then you will more then likely die from soing something stupid/
>>543809-
its okay who ever you are- none of this matters- unless you let it(and if you let it then you should just cry about it- dirty emo faggot tears)/

>>543822

Goddamnit, you keep replying and I have to re-save the thread....

>>542726
Anyone got sauz on OP pic?

>>543823-
suffer/(/////////////////////////)/

>>543801
>You made my day man, Its all so true. Sure good pictures can be taken with basic gear. but some of the really tricky ones cant. So this makes the tricky ones less pure because we couldnt do them? all a bunch of fuckery if you ask me. if i ever bump into you (doubt it but oh well), beers on me man.

I'm the fag you were talking to, and I agree completely.

If you're buying beer, I'll pick up the pizza.

>>543834

Where can i get - a - cool name - like you wolfchan/?

>>543843-
show your dick on the internet- making sure its a chan helps- then people will just pick one out for you- if you can grow a berd- like super quick and hard- and you look like a major dude- then you may be called something similar/

im the new wolfchan/ disregard- anything i said/

OP's pic is from http://www.amydresser.com/
Amy Dresser is a top-dollar photo retoucher. I think her rate is $299 an hour or something like that.

And her website is actually fucking cool. In several of the images you can mouseover them to see the original and her edit.

tl;dr www.amydresser.com/

>>543841-
seems like someones got a date- whos picking up the condome?- or is this a bareback romp?/

>>543886
Shite thanks man. Need to relieve my blue balls today.

>>543885-
ahhhhwww- thas special- now call me a faggot/

>>543871

Go away you butthurt faggot.

/thread

>>543897-
no you go away- yer a butthurt faggot- you are- yooouu/

>>543908

You must be new here.

>>543913-
sure chief/

>>543915
oh shut up already

>>543886
May I say that her shoops are god like? Damn. She fixes things which I thought were perfect already.

>>543915-
uhm its typed- but still no- you kids "trolled" me- now dady gets vindictive/

>>543941

Where did you learn english?

Holy shit the thread is still going?

>>543943-
yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

>>543947-
fuck- i am making a lot of little typos now though- i may be getting a little high.../

>>543947

>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/
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>>543947
>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

>>543947
>>543947

>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

>>543947

>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

Where has wolfy chan gone?

>>543947

>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

>>543947
>>543947

>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

>>543947
>>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

>>543947
>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

>>543947
>>543947

>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

in late, did I really just read all of that?

>>543983

Yessssiirrrr

I thought so.

I'm turning in my badge.

>>543947
>yer mammy- i dont think the issue is my cammand of the english words or the order i convey my thoughts in- its the "grammar"(not even contextually) used- so asking me where i learned english proposes more about you then me- homeslice/

Maybe Rockwell will open up a forum soon.

>>Photography has long been held as the truth, if you have a photo of it must be real.

lolno, lrn2history

a doomed thread made even funnier by a retarded tripfag with a cause

>>543971-
i went to sleep home skillet- or to mexico- the world...- may never know/
and fuck-
>>543987- we get it- didnt you read like a post down- fuck/

>>Photography has long been held as the truth, if you have a photo of it must be real.

Erm, no. not really.
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IS this your definition of being a purist?

pure (pyo̵or)

adjective purer pur′er, purest pur′·est

1.
1. free from any adulterant; unmixed pure maple syrup
2. free from anything that taints, impairs, infects, etc.; clear pure water or air
2. simple; mere pure luck
3. utter; absolute; sheer pure lunacy
4. free from defects; perfect; faultless
5. free from sin or guilt; blameless
6. virgin or chaste
7. of unmixed stock; purebred
8. restricted to the abstract or theoretical aspects pure physics
9. Bible ceremonially undefiled
10. Phonet. articulated without any change in quality and with virtually no movement of the vocal organs; monophthongal (e) is a pure vowel

>>544142-
that look like it may well be your definition- keep assuming asshole(and being dumb while beating a dead horse for another day or three)/

its only as fake as you make it bro

>>544169
What part of the Middle East are you or your ancestors from?

>>544491-
yeah- yer dumb/

>>543027

>I'd bet a nickel, based on the way you comport yourself, that a significant fraction of the people you know in real life are calling you a moron (or a pretentious twat, or whatever) behind your back.

They're probably saying it straight to his face, just using words he doesn't understand.

>>542726
You make an excellent argument and it was very interesting to read. Thank you.

>>544631
Your tryin too hard. You like to talk about your opinions, feelings, beliefs, or what how you do things... but you fail to make it of any interest to me or anyone else. You're a troll because you're boring and it offends the Interwebs. Learn to write.

>>544631
I was addressing you.

>>545966-
The seeming agenda of almost all that are "on" 4chan, is to bully their points to others. If one was to tell others that they themselves are correct, and their proof was how much they could berate another, they would be scoffed at by many in "real life". Diagnosing people online from next door to the other side of the globe, allows them comfort, the feeling of superiority that they long for. There is nothing typed here that is correct of me. It’s all been typed with the foolish agenda of proving me wrong at whatever chance of doing so. If i correct "this", your attitude and answer is "that". If i type yes, you must type no, and rouse that the reason to that no is that I am wrong, because I am me. You are all inferior to me in this way. I know, thoroughly what is "right and wrong" about me, and when i type as such, that, is what you have a problem with. I close with correcting your grammar used, and wish you all what life has for you.
"You're tryin' too hard. It seems that you like to talk about your opinions, feelings, beliefs, and/or what and how you do things. When you do this though, you fail to make it of any interest to me or anyone else. You're a "troll" because you are boring. It offends the constituents of the "Interwebs". Use correct punctuation and less grandiose posturing to better share your ideas."

>>546046

Butthurt.

>>546171


Forgot my pic.

>>546046

>Diagnosing people online from next door to the other side of the globe, allows them comfort, the feeling of superiority that they long for.

>condemnation of diagnosing over the internet, swiftly followed by a diagnosis

>>542732
>>542732
>>542732
>>542732
>>542732
>>542732

>>546182

PHOTOGRAPHY IS DEAD

If only we could use all of this energy to making some images.

>>546175-
not that you are fully incorrect- but that is a divisive ploy- and you type so knowingly- it is delivered to deflate what i typed- it did not-
>>546173-
if only that form had anything on it that happened to me...-

>>542726
thats some serious post processing. the smile even looks like a different mouth!

>>547315

slowpoke.jpg

bump for greatest thread in /p/ history

>>547437
hahaha 'sup John?

>>547441

It's Patrick

this thread is insane. There's no such thing as a pure image-- simply by looking through the camera, setting our exposure and framing do we loose that.

Photoshop is a wonderful enhancement tool; and everyone has a different view on how it should be used-- theres no one right answer. Someone else might love what I object to.

>>547454
agreed. i'd even say it's MADNESS!

>>547463

Madness?

>>547467-
cmon- no one has leonitis kicking the guy proclaiming that "THIS IS /p/ - PHOTOGRAPHY"?- this is 4chan fer fucks sake/

>>542726

holy shit this thread is still going?

>>547606

it is now

my thread just disapeared- my valid fucking artitsic photos thread- i was pretty much done here but before i go- im leaving this message that i typed to the fucking trolls of it- as there have been so many trolls to me here as well- are you funking dumb?- not everything you dislike is a fucking troll- i dont care if you are trying to troll me or not but theres a cure- just find some glass and stomp on it until your bitter loathing and internal hate has gone from a boil to a simmer- while you feel some relief- scoop those broken shards into you mouth and swallow like its that ass to mouth scene you just beat off to- and just gently go up to a biker and tell him " hey fella, your queer bike is wreaking of ass sweat and leather too too much to not have had gay bear sex on" let him know that you have broken shards and splinters of glass freshly sliding down your gullet- and ask if he can stomp on you until its all out- you will be fixed/ there you go champs/

>>548061
wow, this stinks of butthurt.

and i saw your thread, it wasn't valid or artistic.

>>548061
tl;dr

>>548063-
ahhhhw you got me there- it sure wasnt those things i typed it was.../

>>548072
>it sure wasnt those things i typed it was...
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>>548061

shit grammar; couldn't read

we should all start ending our post with/
it looks special and cool /
noot /

Don't care about wolchan's "/"............so what.

But jeez did you go to her website and see the shitz she does. Hell it must take about a month of hardcore photoshop to get those looks. I am fucking impressed by how time it must take create.
You don't know how ugly you are until you have been shooped. Hell I remember when Playboy got a bunch of greif when people found out that those girls had airbrushing done.

Let me tell you a story, I was devasted by this! When the COORS twins were running around and being plastered on billboards everywhere, I thought , those are some pretty nice looking girls.

In St. Louis you always have other beer company's posted shit everywhere, since A-B headquaters is located here.
Ok, getting back to the subject. So, this big ass car show came to the arena and the give was that those twins were going to be there. I waited in line for an hour and just about vomited to see that those twins were Not what was on those billboards. So depressed..........

Actuality to factuality and that's what hurts. So, kiddo's the moral of the story, get shooped or GTFO

Not that I want wolfchan to stay, but /p/ currently doesn't have a page 10, which suggests that we got spambombed sometime overnight, which suggests that a janitor trying desperately to stem the tide probably just deleted that thread by accident.

But if you're reading this, wolfchan, we still all hate you and want you to leave.

>>548113-
do you talk with anyone youve interacted with on this board- outside of on this board?- i didnt think so- there are less then ten named contributors(ive encountered)- and how hard is it to fake or go between "anonymous" to named?- when you type how "we all hate you"- i just think how much wasted time and energy is used here- me for sharing my thoughts and through them- antagonizing people that should by all means- be better then what they show here- or that i interact with them knowing that- this- is what i will get here- not because i am anything that you type- but i am brilliant and vibrant and i understand art and all that creates it- you all know how to be this...- mocking and brashly lashing out at others- its not sad or pathetic- its watching people harm themselves and applauding it on because i can- im sorry- now reflect on yourself and think about how many things were typed about me- that should have been pointed at yourself/

>>548273
tl;dr

has anyone- ever been so far- even as decided to go -do more look like/

disregard- your simple ideas are nothing but lack of meaning- so im an artist and i know- i know and i say and i reach- its not what you say here- that much i know/