terrible advice

bump

Bump again!

I agree. Unless someone comes here looking for something to fit particular needs (to be fair, some n00bs do) then pretty much any camera from the big names, which fits their price bracket and they get along with the best, will see them fine.

People here seem to think once you buy into a system you're fucked, forgetting that they sell lenses all the time, so why not bodies to get into another system, if it caters to them better down the line.

sticky this shit!

stickybumpget

>Smüsh
what's with the umlaut?

>>448412
Well is it smoosh or smush? I figured the ü would make it more hip.

>>448414
so u went with neither?

bamp for stucky

>>448418
Exactly! ^ ^

sticky.

bump

>>448430

>>448433

What we need is a jpeg with all the specs and shit needed for different levels like /g/ has.

>>448440
either way, we need SOME form of sticky. The mods just ignore /p/?

>>448445
They ignore us because we're well behaved scholars. Fucking d'uh.

bamp

sticky plox

STICKY BUMP

it's been a pretty long standing rule that /p/ doesn't get stickies.

do so kindly fuck off summer newfags.

>>448472
Finally some help!
I know all of you who have been here a while have seen at least a dozen of these threads a day. Don't tell me you're not sick of 'em.
Get this shit stickied.

>>448476
Rubber, if I posted one photo you'd know who I was. I've been here a while. WHY don't we get stickies?

>>448476
you bitter fucker rsim!
surely you wanr rhis as much as anyone tho... squeaky gate, oil, etc...

>>448485
That's what I'm sayin'!
We get DOZENS of these posts every day. Forgive me for bragging, but this is good fucking advice for these people. This is exactly what they need to hear.

>>448488
Moreover it avoids the constant vacuous brand wars that evolve from those threads. I'm just sayin' it would make life a lot easier around here if we had SOME sort of sticky about it.

youre silly! why would you answer your own question and then still post it? :/

>>448492
kekekejajahalolrofl I get it!

modbump

Do we have to post child porn for one to come over this way?

bump for sticky.

>>448568

>>448395
>>448395
>>448395
>>448395

>>448395
Mods, sticky this shit so we don't have to keep bumping it.

I did not see this, but I must ask - is buying a camera refurb a wise move? Is it as reliable as a new one/

>>448587
Depends on how good the refurb is. You can get another million pictures out of a refurb or you can get 10000 and the sensor breaks. It just depends on the camera, who did the job, etc.

If money is tight and you want/need the cam, you might as well. But check it out first. Talk to the original owner if you can, etc.

bamp

It's an Olympus manufacturer refurb. So sound like a good deal?

>>448594
How much are you spending on it? What kind of camera is it? What kind of lens do you have for it?

>>448595
It's an Olympus E-520 for 389$, stock 14-42mm lense.

It looks like that's actually a pretty good deal. The lens on there is kind of plain but you should get some good pictures out of it.
I'd say go for it.

THERE ARE NO MODS ON /p/.

>>448395
>>448395
stickybump

>>448600

In that case, I'll order it tomorrow.

>>448607
Don't forget other stuff like memory cards, batteries, battery charger, case, all the other crap that comes with a camera. Find out what they offer in terms of replacement, cleaning, warranty, etc.

>>448608
I have plenty of cards but am probably buying a 2gb just for the extra space.

Batteries and charger are included - but yeah, I'm reading up on that now.

I actually can't tell how the battery is charged. It says it doesn't come with a power adapter but comes with a battery. Does this mean I have to buy it seperately? Can it charge via USB? Most devices with a built in battery come with a charger...

>>448613
It probably needs a charger. Once you get the camera you'll probably have to get a separate charger. See if you can download a PDF of the manual somewhere and find out.

>>448614
I looked, it has a charger in the box.

Will any old UV filter be good for protecting the lense?

I'll be doing 99% outdoor photography so it'll be good to have anyways. Also snagging an ND filter.

>>448618
I'm not sure. I use a polarizing filter when I shoot outdoors and that works wonderfully.

I'm off to bed though. Keep this thread alive. I hope for /p/s sake that the mods look around and sticky the OP.

>>448395

There are mods on /p/? Has anything ever been stickied?

Questions that will nevar be answered.

>>448477
It doesn't even matter how many we get a day. If we had stickies this sort of shit would still get posted, as it's now currently done by trolls 80% of the time, only seeing as we're /p/ and don't get moderated much (perfect example somewhere around here), they wouldn't get deleted anyway.

barramp

Although I would say that if you have no glass to begin with and are starting off completely fresh, canon's entry level dslrs are preferable to Nikon's by virtue of the fact that entry level Nikons don't have DoF preview buttons. What the shite is up with that, by the way? An SLR that won't stop down might as well be a rangefinder with a focal plane shutter made out of anvils for fuck's sake. AM I RIGHT LADIES?

Listen to me, for I do not own a DSLR, nor do I know how to shot autofocus.

Also, do Pentax and Olympus entry level dslrs stop down? Or is this something only Canon has actually done right?

>>448506
needs more cp
>>447969

>>448670
Pentax DLSR's like the K200D and K20D certainly do stop-down.

maybe we could just not troll


oh wait.....

>>448670
At least Pentax K10D & K20D do have depth-of-field preview. You can set it to "digital preview mode" to check DoF & exposure histrogram(s) from the screen before taking a shot or as a traditional optical preview mode (just stops down the lens).

>>448833
>>448807

Good to know.. For 135 format, I only have canon FD lenses, so if I were to ever get a dslr, I really have no effective ties to any vendor. I will keep Pentax in mind. Knowing me, I'll probably wait until the EOS 5d mk ii is < $400 before I buy into the craze. For me, it's still cheaper to buy 'roids (fuji instant film) if I want the luxury of insta-preview with my current setup :I

I'm ultimately not interested in printing anything smaller than 20x24". I'm not sure if conventional dslrs provide enough megapickels for that yet (at the resolution to meet my anal standards anyway.) 300dpi is considered the best digital print resolution, correct?

bamp

>>448395
>"Dear /p/, I'm new to photography and don't know what camera to get. What do you think? Should I choose X, or Y?!"
>o to a camera store and hold the cameras you are considering. Smüsh them up to your face and look through the viewfinders. Push their buttons, flip their switches, etc.
Then realise the k20d gives you the most for your money and buy it. Then buy sigma and tamron lenses for it.

>>448971
ew, get out of here with that nonsense. Don't push your crappy brands in my thread. Just bump it until a mod stickies it.

>>448976
Heh, yeah I am actually proud I stayed away from Canon and Nikon. In my world you are crazy, in your world I am crazy. That's simply how it goes.

high newfag % ITT

>>448985
This thread isn't about brand wars at all, friend. I'm saying nothing about canon or nikon.

As someone who works in a camera store, I fucking agree with this 100%. So many people come in with their heart set on a camera after reading one or two reviews, then end up coming back the next day because they either don't like it or they've fucked up the settings somehow/don't know what anything does.

Or all of the above.

Come on in, try it out, ask me some questions, get educated.

...you'll probably go and fucking buy it off the internet afterwards, but at least you'll get the right camera.

bump

>>449000
word.

STUCKYBAMP

quick reply saged

>>449036
I hate you.

>>449037
Hey hey, /p/ is not about hate: it's about photographs and gear-faggotry!
Now either post a pic or rant how nothing is as good as Canon and Nikon

I support this thread being stickied.

NO~! Get this thread stickied! Actually, just get the first post stickied!~

>>449057
What's with the ~?
nyoro~n much?
Also, saging, just because I can.

sage

>>449060
No, I just lost my dialing wand and my fat fingers keep mashing the keyboard.

>>449061
Every time you sage I bump.

stickybumpmodget!

sage
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Someone please post some necro child porn so we can get a mod up in this bitch.

>>449090
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>>449109
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>>449105
fuck u

Stickybump

Is it famous yet?

bamp

Someone sticky this shit.

Someone find out who the mod is for /p/ and call his ass up. They NEVER check this board.

all we need is the FIRST post >>448395 stickied. The rest of the thread is just bumps and bickering.

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>>449287

Sorry to break it to you guys but the mods are here, deleting spam, and ignoring this.
Plus, OP needs to cut down the text. We don't want a huge essay stickied up the top of our page.

Oh, and that D700 looks damn cool badgeless.

>>449308
Totally! Now try clonestamping on a touch pad! It's a bitch!

And as for the original text, cut out the spaces, remove the TLDR, and the Mods line, then it's done.

>>449308
And /p/ doesn't get moderated to the same degree the rest of the boards do.

I think I've seen ONE image deleted and it was some necro scat porn several months ago.

"Dear /p/, I'm new to photography and don't know what camera to get. What do you think? Should I choose X, or Y?!"
Go to a camera store and hold the cameras you are considering. Smüsh them up to your face and look through the viewfinders. Push their buttons, flip their switches, etc.
If you are coming to 4chan for photography advice, you probably aren't worried about the nuances in specifications between the two cameras - you just want a DSLR to take nice pictures.
In short, the majority of DSLRs on the market today will satisfy your needs. Pick the camera that feels best to you. Since -most- cameras you want will serve your purposes (and thensome), the decision should be based on which camera you like USING more. Do NOT base your decision on which cameras WE use.

>>449308
/p/ has a different user base.

>>449314
Lurk moar and moar often, brah.

>>449323
That was just the only example of blatant modding on /p/. I have never really payed attention to it though.

>>449314
There was a thread about some youtube shit this morning.

Bump this thread and we don't have to through the repetitive threads everyday

Exactly why I want it stickied.

bamp

mods are fags