>the very best on a weeabo magazine.
>end up living on the streets for a while.

Not jealous, really. Also, he doesn't shoot cosplay anymore.

Being the best cosplay photographer is like being the best at tying your shoes in your special ed class. But good for him, it's more than 99% of the people that will inevitably be giving him shit in this thread will ever achieve,

>>1538203
Props to him. He was probably the best photographer on /p/. People rag on him because he shoots cosplay but at the end of the day the photos he was turning out, regardless of subject, were pretty amazing, and certainly a fuckton better than anything any of the other studio/people photographers on here.
Also yfw he shot official Borderlands 2 photos with a 1100D

>>1538254
>Also yfw he shot official Borderlands 2 photos with a 1100D
wat, seriously?! source?

Look at the comments below
Fucking feminists...

Nice going beethy
He does have interesting stuff, I like his non-weaboo portraits too

>>1538519
jesus fucking christ
jezebel invaded kotaku

>>1538517
http://beethy.deviantart.com/

Beethy got good. I think cosplay is meh, but its his subject and he finally got very good. I would say not the best photographer on /p/, there have actually been several better, but like Beethy, as soon as they develop and learn anything they realize how much of a waste of space and misinformation this place is and ditch /p/ really fast. So there have been several, just none now, and none recently, and no one who even looks to have promise currently. That's really the only reason I, almost alone of the old /p/ photographers list, drop in here and some other forums sans trip to scan things periodically - the hope there is something or someone developing some talent. I still hold out hope, just less every monthly visit recently.
Someone please get the fuck on the ball.

>Of course it's only fitting that a MAN would hold the camera, capture the picture, and with it, immortalize his lusty gaze. He controls every angle, every perspective, every setting and prop. He controls how we perceive the woman, down to her very ethos, and how we as a society should judge her. Even her body is his to command, controlling her every pose and distorting her into an exaggerated object of male sexual fantasy.

>>1538203
Beethy is average, that's all I have to say.

good for him

>kotaku

oh

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>>1538827
wait
beethy rage quit? i missed that

>>1538829
He did, but I don't know exactly when and why.

>>1538817
it was a blatant troll

>>1538254
All correct except the official. He just stuck the logo on it.

>>1538835
I know, hence why I copied the first bit only. My concern is that there are some retards who will honestly think something retarded like that. A co-worker of mine is a rabid feminist, vegan (just cuz!), leftist, comunist and everything *ist or *ism. Fuck me I'm tired of her bullshit.

>>1538827
Carlos grew a beard and he's too manly for /p/

>>1538846
If you ever noticed they are all middle class white girls. They love to preach about "privilege" yet they are one of the most "privileged" demographics in the world.

So they start to latch onto as many bullshit labels as they can. It's easy to blame your shortcomings on everyone else when you complain about being oppressed because you're a "pansexual genderqueer".

>>1538827
don't forget ac rage quitting over a sigma troll.

By the way, what's the story on carlos' rage quit? I remember the first deleted threads but he eventually got his shit together around the time he did that series of old people on a asylum or something. What happened?

>>1538855
he took one voyueristic photo of some chick in a hospital bed, wtf, nigga sucked that photo sucked yea im mad, nigga couldn't even into b+w

beethy is good at what he does, it's obvious from the photos in the article

/p/ thinks he's shit because he posted everything he took, ie a billion shits

and his wide can't into feet still

Good for him-

Didn't fucking know it was a category of photography.


Just looked at his Deviantard photos. Ahem, it is really average. The borderlands one is shamefully bad.
Some of it is "ok" as in the photoshopping doesn't suck, the lihgting isn't shit, the colours are good, the processing is ok. But nothing blows my mind, at all.

>>1538203
I like it. The lighting and colors are nice, and the hand draws you right to the eyes.

I'm too new to know who beethy is, or Carlos and ac for that matter

>>1538210
what this guy says

Most cosplay pictures are total garbage. Most cosplayers are ugly whales or neckbeards which ruins the picture from the start.

And I am sure he is not THE BEST. Maybe the best in murrika. Which like I and that anon said isn't hard at all. I have seen enough japanese cosplay photographs that were better made.

>>1538993
After seeing droves of cosplay images, I've started to appreciate Beethy's stuff more. Even if his images do have a lot of photoshop behind it, it definitely gives off it's own style. I've come across some of his images from other parts of the internet and could tell straight away that it was shot by him. Definitely unique when it comes to the saturated market of cosplay photographers, it was a real shame reading about his posts when he was going through some serious shit in terms of financials. (Didn't he end up selling his gear because of it? Forgot.)

>>1539038
he's still around just not on 4chan anymore
saw some drama about him and some other girl on /cgl/ a few weeks ago taken from facebook
you'd have to ask the australians on /cgl/ for more info

>>1538254
>He was probably the best photographer on /p/
I respectfuly but strongly disagree. I guess it all comes down to taste, and he was sincerely good, but I disagree.
Nevertheless, I always got the feeling that if he outgrow that cosplay teenager crap and got serious about other portraiture he could become a quite successful fashion or editorial photographer.

>>1538827
>dat image
is lacking ac.
Oh, beethy's ragequit from /p/ thread was pretty epic and ensued a lot of laughs.

Hey guys.. I saw someone from /p/ mention me on the Kotaku thing so I'm dropping in..

Just to address a few things. I sincerely don't recall rage quitting. I just left because some great photographers and people I thought were cool left too. D, DepressedCheesecake.. 5hoe.. etc.
Also the constant negativity was a little off putting to say the least.

Anyway. Just to address a few things.
The shoot wasn't entirely official.. but it was done with the actress of the upcoming release of Borderlands 2.
Gearbox's CEO and their staff seems to enjoy what we've produced so far.
As far as the claims of me selling my gear because of lack of money (gotta get food, etc) .. well that's all true. Things were tough for a while but it's all good now. The 1000D seems to do the job for now.

Any more questions.. shoot!

>>1539179
>5hoe
Excuse me, but he still posts. There's even a thread by him a few pages back.

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>>1539197
> D, DepressedCheesecake.. 5hoe..
d still posts and lurks here.
dc still posts from time to time since he bought the Hasseblad 500
5hoe never really left.

And yes, you ragequitted like a pussy.

>>1539179
Yeah I'll bite.
Have you got a job yet?

Ya'll participating in a self-thread.
Reported.

>>1539211
that's uuh..that's the way they're stored on the servers if you bothered checking out the link

It's comforting to know that all I have to do is take pictures of some hot girls dressed up in an abandoned building and then mercilessly edit them in Photoshop for people to consider me a good photographer.

>>1539225
You missed the part where you have to have an appreciation of form, light and aesthetics. So unlucky.

>>1539228
hm, probably but that's all missing in OPs link so idk..

>>1539198
wait? they came back?
cool

>>1539179
>>1538203

posting in a samefag thread.

>beethy has just been featured on Kotaku as "the very best in cosplay".
I've seen much better cosplay photos. beethy's photos are just plain and edited. :\

>>1539265
>>1539225
>then mercilessly edit them in Photoshop
>beethy's photos are just plain and edited
I'll call troll on these two, but just in case you are serious: Some types of photography require insane amounts of photoshop, and there's nothing wrong with it.

I don't like cosplay photography, so all cosplay looks shit to me, the same way all fashion photography looks shit.

Nice to see you are doing good beethy, keep it up.

>hurr durr overrated maintream edited photos

Do not understand what you are talking about guys. Very nice photos, nice composition (may be plain a bit), nice "model management" (hope you understand what I'm talking about), nice lightning.

The OP photo is awesome from my point of view.

>>1539251
I don't think 5hoe and d ever left. I haven't heard anything from dc for a while though.

No girlfriend nudes on kotaku. I am disapuddi.

mfw faggots that think all photos from before the digital era were straight out of camera

Please tell me you guys don't honestly believe things like transparencies and basic composites, including and not limited to transparent overlays, didn't exist before you came out of your mom's vagoo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compositing

The harder you try to look like some kind of elitist purist cunt, the more you look like nothing but a cunt.

Hi Beethy! Congrats on the title - its a pretty awesome badge to put on a resume, etc. I hope it brings you some cool new clients and lots of work.
I was hoping you'd make an appearance here! ^_^

>>1539542
>Cosplay
>Clients

lol

Work is work, man. Whether its taking Cosplay pics or product shots for a circuit board maker, or whatever other crazy thing people shoot - its a reward to work in the industry in any capacity.

>>1539559
I had to do food photography once for a Mexican restaurant. Probably one of the worst experiences I've ever had ;_;

$100 for 1.5 hours of work wasn't all that bad though.

>>1539559
Yeah man, whatever you can make money from is always good. Getting your name out there also counts.

>>1539559
Clients pay money...

>>1539591
>one of the worst experiences I've ever had

Go on...

>>1539225
Do you really believe this is much photoshop? C'mon, beethy is a great guy and a great photographer. Way better than 99% of /p/. He's definitely one of my old times favorite.

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>>1539633
>great guy
irrelevant. interested in skill only.
>great photographer
is he? is cosplay a worthwhile subject? It's not.
>Way better than 99% of /p/
Stepmoms are better than 99% of /p/

>>1539638
> >great guy
Challenge.

Beethy is a rare breed for /p/. I've always been a fan of his work. What you have to understand is this:
He is good at what he does. He is a photographer that can actually use his camera to its potential. Then he is smart; he finds a client base that not many people tap into, one that he loves. Not only that, the client base LOVES to get their photos taken and will pay anything to get a good photo of themselves.

Beethy goes to work doing his favorite hobby, with the people he likes, in an enviroment filled with the things he loves, AND he makes money off of it.

If you don't like him for his work, you have to admit he is doing good for himself.

>>1539638
And who are you exactly to determine the legitimacy and quality of a subject genre? Can you point me any theoretical and valid art study (preferably done by you and published in some respected magazine or book) regarding this specific theme and how it is not worthwhile? You should learn how to separate your personal preference from facts.

And by the way, he doesn't only shoots cosplay. His portraits are very good.

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>>1538827
>1000D seems to do the job for now

To be used as inspiration for those with baby's first rabal... such as myself. VINDICTATION!

>>1539638
so what is the different between shooting a person in a costume and shooting a person without one

you tell me

>>1539653
here we go with the defensiveness

let me ask you this:
anything that we value has been because it gives us a better understanding of humanity. cosplay gives a better understanding of why japan churns out the same story over and over again with the only variation being in the names and sometimes the hair colors.

>preferably done by you and published in some respected magazine or book
do you also ask this of your friends? stop being so sensitive.

>>1539661
costumes are derivative. As in there is no originality involved. The only thing that can be judged is the "cosplayers'" ability to duplicate a pattern.

Your move.

>mfw people are working this hard to defend beethy

What happened to you, /p/? You used to have a modicum of taste.

>>1539673
>there is no originality involved

the most stupid thing I read today.

your "model" can have the best costum ever if you put her in front of the wrong background, let her do a stupid pose or just fuck up the editing. It doesen't matter how good the costum is.

same goes for normal portraits.

I think you just hate chines cartoons or atleast the fanbase

>>1539645
Cosplayers don't pay him more than $50.
I don't think the term client is really appropriate, rather, friend?

>>1539686
beethy is a fun character.
He knew his way around a camera, his main subject made people rage. He was great at making people buttmad all the time and
he didn't afraid to post a mix of really strong photos and total shit.

/p/ can't deal with simplicity like that.

>>1539709
He takes photos. fact
He gets paid. fact
One may say that the people that pay him are his clients, no? regardless of how much he gets paid to do it.

>>1539697
So much this.
>>1539686
stoplikingwhatidonotlike.x3f

>>1539709
if someone is paying you, they are a client

>>1539697
the stupidest thing *I* read all day was

>your "model" can have the best costum ever if you put her in front of the wrong background, let her do a stupid pose or just fuck up the editing. It doesen't matter how good the costum is.
"costume" has an "e" at the end. FYI
If originality is being relegated to the background, then yes, there is no originality involved.

Yeah, the cartoons are pretty juvenile and the fans even more so, but that isn't the reason why I don't like it. I don't like it because it's *not original*. If these costumes were professionally crafted, no one would give a shit about what he is doing, and to me that means that beethy's work is lees so about his merit as a photographer and more about showcasing the "talents" of "cosplayers". And that is not a genre, nor is it art. It's a guy with a camera.

>>1539719
to use the term "client" implies that there is something professional about what he is doing, and from the sound of it, it's pretty unprofessional.

>>1539732
first: english not my mother tongue and I'm pretty tired because I was working all day.
So excuse me for making gramma mistakes

second: on every cosplay site or what you want to call it the photographer is allways listed also why do you think they do a contets about "the very best in cosplay" ?
I would say its pretty much 50/50 or atleast 40/60 (photography/costume)

and it is a genre

they are fucking portraits

>>1539736
http://beethy.com/
I'd love to see his tax records...

ITT: people getting buttmad about a guy who's making a buck doing what he enjoys

>>1539768
>a buck
Accidentally hitting the nail on the head.

>>1539763
If you can't speak English well, don't speak it at all because you don't seem to understand what I am saying.

>>1539764
why? are you an auditor? Also, you should actually check webpages before you start referring people to them.
>>1539768
>a buck
singular

BTW: where can I get a higher res OP-pic?

>>1539732
Pretty desperate there if you need to pick on spelling and typos. Your posts aren't exactly free of typos either.

Your over-emphasis on originality is pretty amusing, and naive. One can argue that nothing we photograph is original, and at the same time, another can argue that everything we photograph is original. That debate has been done over and over.

How about instead of engaging in some kind of meta-genre pseudo-philosophical argument on /p/, and overthinking the theories of genre and style, you actually did some photography?

Photographers like beethy, regardless of whether they do landscape, fashion, wedding, or cosplay, actually go out and shoot on a regular basis, and by doing so they become better. Your attempts to belittle a sub-genre of photography does not impact on the skills of the photographer.

> beethy's work is lees so about his merit as a photographer and more about showcasing the "talents" of "cosplayers".
You might have difficulty accepting this, but for most people, photographs are less about the merit of the photographer, and more about the subject. Fashion photography is an accepted genre, and fashion (clothes, bags, shoes) is the primary focus. Secondary is the model and makeup, and coming in last is the actual photography.

As photographers, we mix that order up because immediately we jump on lighting, composition, etc, and we also have problems controlling our ego-centric view that photographic skills should be at the centre of every shoot.

Much as we love the nitty gritty hard reality street-type photography, there's nothing wrong about photos being used to showcase or promote the subject.

>>1539770
>Also, you should actually check webpages before you start referring people to them.
Thankyou for spelling it out, Pablo. His website has indeed been removed and that is exactly why I posted the link, tying it in to the question of professionalism.

>>1539769
>>1539770
>can't into expressions
He may not making a ton of money in photography but - having to repeat myself - he's still making some doing his thing. And, apparently, he's doing it right since a lot of people like his stuff.

Why are you so upset about it?

>>1539776
I can access it just fine.
What are you on about?

http://www.beethy.com/

>>1539772
Here you go.

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>>1539776
the sarcasm in your post wasn't apparent. It read like a typical post on /p/.
>>1539775
I never understood what motivates people such as yourself to get so defensive about a particular issue.
And
>most people
isn't a valid argument. Quantify and qualify, please.
And
>instead of engaging in some kind of meta-genre pseudo-philosophical argument
which is followed by
>we also have problems controlling our ego-centric view that photographic skills should be at the centre of every shoot.
........

>there's nothing wrong about photos being used to showcase or promote the subject.
okay. But it's not art.

>>1539778
a lot of people like Elvis
and coors light

>>1539784
Go right ahead and pull out babby's first philosophical arguments. As if saying someone is "defensive" actually has any effect on a conversation. If you can point out fallacies, so can I. That's ad hominem.

But too bad no one is going to abide by those rules of engagement because we're too busy trolling you.

Here's the thing: no one said his shit was art. Another fallacy for you: straw man

>>1539791
stoplikingwhatidontlike.dng

>>1539793
but you're mad
and I still think beethy is shit

>>1539800
Me too. I just felt like trolling.

Jesus christ you people will argue about anything

>>1539782
I thought about inb4ing that actually.

Regardless of how good his photography is, there are plenty of people out there (even in Australia) making good money from cosplay photography and going about it in a much more professional way.
Beethy is a disgusting excuse for a "professional" photographer. I may sound butthurt and thats because I honestly am. I paid for a shoot with him and he never delievered any results. He was very rude and unprofessional the whole way through and to be honest after that experience Im not suprised I didnt get any results.
Ive given up on trying to contact him. Its just not worth my time, and hes not worth anyone elses time or money. Hes shown his true colours time and tiem again as someone who only has time for people who he thinks have something to give him.

>>1539179
Glad to see you saw my comment. Stick around /p/ some more? ;_;

site is up. beethy is good.

captcha: have disalax

>>1539783
ITT: beethy trolling trolls trolling 5hoe.

>>1539879
If it's true, I don't understand this.

Maybe because I'm poor, but how could you ever let someone take your money that way? If he really did this to you, take him to civil court and stop being butthurt on the internet.

Fwiw, I think his photos are technically awesome, and some of the best costume photos I've seen.

personally, i love his pathetic attempts to get attention on reddit
I TOOK PHOTOS OF A GIRL THAT ARE ON THE INTERNET AMA
http://www.reddit.com/user/beethy
well, atleast he isn't KrisEz

>>1540058
Not the person you're replying to, but I did hear that he did this to a number of people and never answered them when they tried to contact him about it. It was only like 50 bucks though so no one made too much of a fuss.

>>1540089
i gotta admit that KrisEz is alright with his event based stuff but his portrait/fashion/cosplay stuff is crap

beethy definitely has some skill but as the above have stated, he doesnt have a great reputation

i will admit good on them for having the guts to post on /p/. ive been shooting for only 3 years and i don't nearly have the confidence that these guys have (but then again i KNOW i suck)

>>1539633
I think you've posted a minimal example there.

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>>1540117
All Krisez does is have an expensive Nikon which he uses to pick up girls at shitty anime conventions (pic related).

>>1539225
because increasing the gamma is 'merciless editing lol'
go do lomography and then you won't have to worry your little head about anything except composition.

>>1539965
500$ for a half day

who is paying for that

>>1539965
Site is shit, beethy is shit.

/thread.

>>1540180
Anybody that would dress and pose like that has got to be loads of fun in the sack. Jees I gotta start shooting models again....

>>1540714
>has got to be loads of fun in the sack
my_teeth_when.jpg

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>mfw this was a photoshop® shoop of this original wapanese slut

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>>1540837
please post moar or tits

>>1540837
i am ok with this

>>1540837
Please tell me this is the legit version.

>>1540923
It isn't

>>1540923
Yes, that's the legit version. You can find it here http://fav.me/d374uk9

But my favourite of the set is here http://fav.me/d3751u3

She's KrisEz's girlfriend, so one would assume he knows what she's like in the sack. Where's Beethy's girlfriend, by the way?

>>1541000
sage for saggy breasts

>>1541009
dont look that saggy to me, just big and not fake. you do know real tits dont defy gravity, right?

>>1541009
Here, you'll probably prefer this
http://spandexqueens.deviantart.com/art/Ariane-St-Amour-287908121?q=in%3Aphotography%2Fpeople%2Fglam
our%20sort%3Atime&qo=11

>>1541026
They are saggy as shit. I mean just look at em.


>>1541058
Fuckin gross.

>>1541000
Beethy's girlfriend is some Azn chick apparently.

>>1541097
dont be silly,
beethy doesn't have a girlfriend
he just tries to fuck the weeaboos he takes photos of

>>1541179
I doubt it. When that sort of thing happens, it spreads around the weeb community like wildfire.

There are regular threads on
>>>/cgl/
containing big lists of photographers who try fuck cosplay girls. If you hated Beethy you could try and start a nasty rumour about him there.

>Beethy's girlfriend is some Azn chick apparently.

dude into anime and cosplay having the yellow fever?
gee. color me fucking amazed.

/i'd be more amazed if you showed me one whose girlfriend wasn't either Azn, a weeaboo, or a wannaboo.

>>1538203

I saw some of Beethy's photos and they are great OP and thanks for bringing that up, faggot. What makes it intriguing for me here is about the "the very best in cosplay" part. Kotaku was not specific about that. Is he the best in Australia? In Asia? In the world? I agree if he's the best in Australia because his cosplay photos are one of the best I've seen in Australia. But for me he's not the very best in the world (sorry Beethy) I've seen much better cosplay photos around the world. I wish you could convince all the people in this world to like your photos but not all have a good taste in cosplay or interested on it. Come on beethy is an inspiration to /p/ to make them interested into cosplay photography.

>either Azn, a weeaboo, or a wannaboo

Show me any chantard (the small fraction capable of avoiding foreveralone anyway) that doesn't have a girlfriend in one of those three categories.

>>1541270
Yeah I agree with you there. I think there's people out there doing cosplay that are doing a better job than I am.. Mainly some of the people in Russia and China (amazing shit, really)..
However.. these people are more popular in their respective countries than anywhere else.

The amount of good cosplay photographers in the US, Europe and Australia/NZ is kind of sparse.
So far the photogs featured on that site are Eric Ng (Bigwhitebazooka), LJinto and myself. All 3 of us are predominantly only known in western countries.

Also.. enough with Ardella's fake photoshopped picture.
This: http://ardella.deviantart.com/
Is what she looks like. She's also a pretty nice person who doesn't deserved to be dragged into anything.

>>1541280
but she's a dopey fucking slut who is going out with KrisEz who is most likely the most retarded, pigheaded fuckface there is.
what's not to drag around about that?
also beethy, why don't you have any friends your own age? and how does it feel being in such a shit spot at 30?

>>1541341
a shit spot? elaborate please

as far as the age thing goes... i dunno man. i seem to get along better with people aged 20-25 or 50-100. (old people are awesome)
i guess when your best friends are young.. it's doubtful they know anyone my age.. so networking through them won't go anywhere either.

>>1541341
Just a minute, how is she a slut? I've met her a couple of times and she seemed like the nicest person I've ever met in cosplay and certainly not dopey.

>>1541363
You're being trolled. Get over it.

Beethy, what are you working on now?

Any big projects coming up? Anything exciting?

>>1541382
Actually yes. 2 shoots coming up that should be quite interesting :)
Can't reveal anything though.

>>1541387
Paid/Commercial stuff or personal projects?

>>1541391
can't say
given what's been mentioned in places.. it may hint at what it'll be.
promised to keep my mouth shut

>>1541387
derp

wtf is cosplay

>>1541433

mutually exclusive from foreplay

>>1541433
It's this thing where losers dress up as video game characters because their own lives suck.

>>1541433
Like foreplay, but you need a co-signer.

>>1540180
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>>1541000
PROOF

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>>1541457
I don't know why he bothers with that shitty watermark. It completely destroys what little value the image had beforehand.

>>1541457
turds

>>1541352
by shit spot i mean, no career, no job, nothing to really show for yourself...
you had to sell your gear to survive,
you just enrolled in a shitty fucking tafe course that's designed for kids right out of school
you're horrible at networking and are working at a niche that is fucking useless, how do you think you're going to get work in real world?
need me to elaborate more?
>>1541402
also, if it's borderlands stuff, you are just gonna keep riding that feral toothed bitches ride all the way aren't you?
I TOOK A PHOTO OF A GIRL IN A GAME AMA

>>1541550
the way you talk.. it sounds like you hate yourself. you're bitter and angry. why?

>>1541565
The way you talk, it seems like you're avoiding every question that isn't blantantly licking your ass. Why?

>>1541571
I'm sorry. I didn't see the question there.

>>1541571
Oh.. how does it feel?
Well... to be honest. Things are quite good now. So I guess it feels fucking great.
Question answered.

>>1541550
Are you beethy's biographer? It is kind of creepy how much you know about him.

Really disturbing.

>>1538831
I think it was about the time he posted this shot a few years ago.

He felt very proud that people appreciated his work but some other people commented on it calling him out on it being overblown with a distracting lens flare with the only mildly redeeming factor being that you could see the girls underwear and that overall from a technical perspective it was terrible.

He got agitated and posted some rant about how "/p/ hates hipsters who take pictures of girls" and that "nature photographers are all neckbeard basement dwellers" and his posting rate declined.

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>>1541629
That's it, beethy confirmed for butthurt faggot.

>>1541629
confirmed for fabrication.

i left because /p/ had nothing more to offer for me.
the sole reason i ever posted on /p/ was to get serious in depth critique (which for months and months, i did get)

then it kind of ended... and beethy threads often derailed into a scene comparable to a large crowd of fat naked people throwing shit at each other

that's why, /p/
after insulting my girlfriend over and over... me.... my personal life.
do you really think i would've left over the fact that people didn't like certain elements in a photo of mine that i personally liked?

please

>>1541660
srs question, is there anywhere on the internet to get "serious, in depth critique."

I was on /m/ for a couple years, mainly for laffs, then a few months ago started posting here. I love the... i dunno, structure of the system, but everyone is such cynical defensive douchbags.

>>1541660
is or was >>1541629 your girlfriend? She has nice feet. The panties are kinda distracting, don't like it.

>>1541594
>Are you beethy's biographer? It is kind of creepy how much you know about him.
Well, to be fair he posts that much in his deviantart profile, so it's not like it's a secret he blatantly failed at life.

>>1541660
>confirmed for fabrication.
More like confirmed for truth. I was in that thread.
>i left because /p/ had nothing more to offer for me.
>the sole reason i ever posted on /p/ was to get serious in depth critique (which for months and months, i did get)
>beethy threads often derailed into a scene comparable to a large crowd of fat naked people throwing shit at each other
Your threads always derailed into a trollfest. It was like the signature of your threads. And you did get your C&C on that thread. It simply didn't fit with what you were expecting and got buttmad.

>do you really think i would've left over the fact that people didn't like certain elements in a photo of mine that i personally liked?
Yes, you would. That's mostly what happened. You got massively butthurt and started to post less and less since that thread. Pity we didn't archive it.

>>1541667
yes I would like to find a place like this. If you post something better than avg here the fags rip you apart because they're jelly. If you post something worse than avg, they rip you apart to feel superior. The worst part is, it's so hard to know which you are.

>>1541667
/p/ used to be a damn good place to get insanely good critique actually. over the years threads turned into massive shitfests filled with people like this guy.
>>1541669

>>1541675
>yes I would like to find a place like this. If you post something better than avg here the fags rip you apart because they're jelly. If you post something worse than avg, they rip you apart to feel superior. The worst part is, it's so hard to know which you are.

What this guy's saying is 100% true.
It was actually genuinely hard for me to filter out the people who just hated your work because they're jealous and bitter as shit and people who didn't like it for very valid reasons.

what i'd end up doing is pay close attention to any tripfags and mostly ignore anon (since the board had no anons that posted decent work)

i'm referring to a time long ago obviously.. don't know what kind of state this board is in atm..
but back then
anon=ignore em
tripfag=listen

made it a whole lot easier.

i even had this creepy ass anon who literally had screencaps of everything i'd ever posted.
he was eventually ridiculed and nicknamed 'archival-anon'... never to be heard from or seen again.
anyone remember that shit? was funny.

>>1541676
I know, hence looking for somewhere else. 500px and Flickr are the only ones I've used and both have that obnoxious "I fav you if you fav me" bargaining mentality. I like the message board format.

As nice as Anon is, the lack of accountability seems like it killed this board because a few assholes took advantage.

>>1541682
>the lack of accountability seems like it killed this board

You're in the wrong place.

>>1541682
Implying /p/ wasn't always full of assholes.

We're just an upside down /b/, remember?

>>1541660
So basically you're butthurt as hell.

>>1541680
I'm not that archive-anon, but I saved a few choice ones of his for the lulz

>>1541680

I miss confrontational beethy. where's soulr when you need him

>>1541723
pic related

>>1541680
Archive anon screen-capped things from everybody if he felt they were saying something incorrect or retarded. Sometimes they even turned out pretty funny when they were reposted months down the line.

You should probably stop lying about and exaggerating things that happened back then... A lot of us are still here, ya know?

>>1541680
Hey Beethy. You're getting trolled again.
You're a cool guy and easily the best photographer to grace /p/ recently. Not to mention you always took people's critique to heart and got all the better for it.

For your sake, kindly leave this thread now. What's happening now is pretty much the exact same thing that caused you to leave.

Insecure douches jealous you're a better photographer than them and so they're trying to dismiss you by going 'lol cosplay isn't real photography'.

This place can be pretty good for critique, just not when you're you because people just troll you into the ground and it's painful to watch.

Also, the board isn't worth returning it as it's gotten pretty shit. There isn't a single decent trip left. Back in the day there were some talented trips, all that's left are a bunch of dickwads with unimaginable egos. The culture of "ignore anons, listen to trips" is still here, but sadly without the reasoning behind it there once was.

>induring an unholy torrent of people accusing me of being beethy.

Hey Beethy, congrats.
I'm always happy when one of ours gets recognition.

I believe you linked me to your youtube channel a couple of days ago. Am I correct?

>>1538203
How does it make me feel? I don't know, I guess pretty cool that a person featured in an article lurks around /p/. I don't know why a person becomes a weeboo though, my sister almost became one by reading manga all day back then.

Wow, I never realized that there are such shitloads of politics and gossip here in /p/.

Moving on, I'd be honest here. Cosplay's not really my type of thing, I just can't relate to it so I'm being quickly deluded by the notion that only the fancy costumes would create the connection (hence, are of significance to the viewer such as me), but I'm pretty sure this is not how it would turn out to be to many people, because I think many people love Beethy's work.

It would be nice if he tried his hand on other types of portrait photography, something that would lean more to my taste (docu, environmental portaits etc), but of course, who am I to force him for what he does not feel like shooting?

I also felt a slight envy towards what the guy so far has accomplished, even if say, I won 1st place at two online photo challenges at DPreview (which some of you would treat as crap photo contests anyway). He is a professional that gets good works every now and then, and many people love him and his works, while I, as a hobbyist, struggles to make a decent enough image to post in my devianthurt, posting only once a month, and now resorting to submitting pics anonymously in /p/ for C&C, just to know if how actual people (fag or non-fag) view my works.

But then again, I'm not a professional, so why would I bother wasting my time (like now) discussing about a well-off fellow photographer whose works don't really interest me?

That reminds me, I have to go out and shoot, bye.

>>1541777
> I don't know why a person becomes a weeboo though
Like it or not, we are all weaboo here...including you.

>>1541887
Nope

I thought I was back in /cgl/ there for a minute.
So I should just just stop taking pictures of cosplayers right now then?

>>1542032
I dunno. Are your subjects as flawless as Koti?

Also, on a serious note. Didn't we somehow persuade beethy to drop his attempts at monetizing his cosplay photography and stick to improving and expanding his editorial/fashion stuff?

What happened to that bro. WHAT HAPPENED.

>>1542036
We did? I can't seem to remember.

I've been hesitant to weigh in on this one, but I'm going to say some things.

I was a tripfag on /p/ back when Beethy was a noob with a DSLR taking snapshits of whatever, before he was all about cosplay. I am also a cosplay photographer. You wouldn't know my name, but you might know my work if I posted it. I'm probably in the world's top five cosplay photographers in terms of views per individual picture, but those happen on the cosplayers' pages, in publications and blogs that feature them, and being circulated without any info on 2chan and the Chinese- and Korean-speaking message board and blogospheres. I also haven't made a cent doing it.

Beethy, there are two points I'd like to make about your work. First of all, you need to really work on improving your relationship with cosplayers and the cosplay community. I have friends in the Australian scene, and mention of your name does not provoke positive responses. My advice is to stop worrying about your exposure as a photographer, and just be a real part of the community and a real friend of cosplayers. Shoot with them, and don't charge them for it. You'll be amazed at how much you improve when working with somebody who's comfortable with you and who's not just a job you can bang out, deliver, and forget about. By being around them, you'll learn what they want from a photographer and how they want to be portrayed in the photos. I know some girls who are only happy with fashion-y photos that make them look as glamorous as possible, while others want photos with more character and more "edge". Actually knowing these people is the only way to really understand what they like, and what makes the best photos of them.

Photography is also an absolutely terrible way to meet women in the long term, and anything on that front that comes out of it will just degrade your reputation and make you enemies.

Continued-

>>1542098

Secondly, consistency, consistency, consistency. Being professional is about being able to produce a number of strong photos every time you shoot, not about making the occasional ground-breaking out there original spectacular piece. When people pay you for a shoot and you don't have anything to deliver, there's a major problem. There's still a problem when you do a shoot and deliver two or three photos, and several of them are different framings of the same shot. My advice is to develop a repertoire of "go to" shots, from pose to angle to lighting, and know that out of that repertoire, you'll be able to make six or eight solid shots that fit whatever theme you're working with and that will please the client. Once those are done, then you can start moving the lights, trying new poses, all that, secure in the knowledge that you've got a good set to deliver if the experimental stuff doesn't work out.

This ties back into really getting to know the cosplayers, too, as after a few shoots with somebody, you'll really be able to make them look their best. I know one girl who's not bad looking at all in person, but she has relatively strong features that cause shadows that make her look bad in most people's photos. I've learned how to light and shoot her to make her look the way she does in real life, and that's made my pictures of her very successful. I'm her go-to photographer because I'm able and willing to tailor my lighting and shooting to her individual needs. Knowing how to make people who aren't as fortunate look great is a big deal too - what I'm most proud of, in all my time as a photographer, isn't the book cover or the blog features, it's being told by somebody that her friend, who I shot with, cried when I released the photos of her because they were the first ones anybody had ever taken where she was happy with the way she looked.

>>1542101
>>1542098

Well said. Cheers.

>>1542101
>>1542098

0/10

/you know how i know you are actually a working photographer and not full of shit?

>Photography is also an absolutely terrible way to meet women in the long term

so very fucking THIS. glad i am not the only one to point this out.

>>1542137
Yeah, I really wish people would stop thinking photography is a good way to get laid. I've met some decent women through cosplay (and one great one, my GF), but it was through socialization and friends, not through being a photographer.

I'll put in one more piece of advice that's worked great for me, which is collaborating with somebody else in the course of making your images. I work with an excellent retoucher, and not only do her skills make my photos better, she also acts as a critical second opinion on my photos, who isn't emotionally invested in certain shots like I am, and who can look at the RAWs out of my camera, shoot down the ones that I may have worked hard on but aren't good, and find ones that I wasn't impressed with but which turn out to be some of the most popular.

>>1542098
>You wouldn't know my name, but you might know my work if I posted it. I'm probably in the world's top five cosplay photographers in terms of views per individual picture.
Go stroke your dick somewhere else. Your work is fucking average.

>>1542166
You don't even know who I am, so that's pretty hard to say.

That said, my work is absolutely average for a professional portrait or commercial photographer, that's true. I could be the best photographer in cosplay, which I'm not, and that still would mean very little compared to "real" work. I was just attempting to establish my credibility as a relatively successful cosplay photographer, not toot my own horn. Sorry if it came off that way.

>>1542175
Oh, I sure know who you are.

>>1542194
If you really think you do, send me a message through my website or my flickr or dA whatever and we'll see. Or you could even just say what part of the world you think I'm from and what characters I've had popular pictures of and we'll see if you're anywhere close.

Anyway, look, my pictures are totally run of the mill in the general scheme of photography, and I'm well aware of that. They're not crap but they're on the same level as most people who put a decent amount of effort into learning to light and photograph competently. Pictures I've taken have been very popular and a few have had a huge amount of play on the internet, which is something I attribute more to the quality of the cosplayers than to my photography, but it doesn't change the fact they've done well and that the people I shoot with like the photos.

I don't think I'm a very good photographer but I think I do some of the better work in the cosplay scene, although I'm realistic and humble enough about it that I'd only ever say something like that under cover of anonymity.

>>1542194
Oh, and by "views per individual picture", I meant that I have a few pictures that have had a large circulation. I realize that it sounded like I was saying every one of my pictures gets more views than anybody else, and if you're basing who you think I am on that, you're definitely off, because the vast majority of my work only gets a few dozen or hundred at the most, especially when they're my own posts of them.

>>1541751
Most sensible advice yet. I'll follow it.
If any of you have any questions directed at me.. You know where to find me.
See you in a few months/years, /p/
It was kinda nostalgic again.

>>1542283
and the trolls win again
you're weak

>>1542283
you're a stupid pathetic cunt that no one likes.
you think you're gods gift to photography, but if you were, you'd actually have a fucking job, not taking photos of people dressing up for 50 dollars.
you're a fucking weak piece of shit,
have fun at tafe with the 17 year olds who will go further than you.

>>1542335
Well said.

ITT trolls trolling trolls and haters hating

I enjoy your work beethy.

God fucking damnit.
Why won't my cunt stop bleeding acid?