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    38 KB Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)13:41 No.1502532  
    >be Japanese
    >take professional, interesting photos of models
    >make living from selling photobooks

    Guy is living YOUR dream.
    Why aren't you doing something similar?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)13:42 No.1502533
    >>be japanese
    That may be your dream, but I happen to like my big penis.
    >> The Dude - forgot the trip on the other pc 01/27/12(Fri)13:47 No.1502534
    Glad for him but I don't go below 18yo (16 if in my homeland, where it's legal).
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)13:53 No.1502535
    Ill go to as low as whats legal, off to spain i go im thinking.
    >> The Dude - forgot the trip on the other pc 01/27/12(Fri)13:57 No.1502537
    who the fuck is he anyway?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:02 No.1502538
    >>1502537
    Owner of that candydoll model site I think. Might be just the photographer.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:06 No.1502541
    Are they that into western lolis?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:11 No.1502545
    MOAR!
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:16 No.1502548
    Not really. I don't like working with models all that much. My next project will involve food.

    >forever a scone
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:20 No.1502550
    >>1502545
    They're far too saucy for /p/.

    >whips
    >latex
    >provocative poses

    On the technical side, they are really well photographed.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:22 No.1502551
    Because there's a shit load of people doing exactly that.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:37 No.1502571
    >>1502541
    I think you mean eastern lolis, those are all Russian, Ukrainian, Serbian girls.

    And plus, young white girls are much more attractive than the other races.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:42 No.1502580
    >>1502571
    You're racist.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:45 No.1502585
    >>1502571
    Well for Japan that's west.
    Anyway am I the only one who see a slight hint of pedophily in this?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:47 No.1502586
    >>1502585
    In what? You could use the same judgment for halloween costume photos uploaded to Facebook.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:51 No.1502588
    >>1502586
    I don't know ehre you live but where I live I don't see 10yo lolis with thong, high heels, latex suite and whip posing in porn mode for halloween
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:53 No.1502590
    >>1502588
    It is acceptable in Japan I guess where the age of consent is 13. Why were you looking this up?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:55 No.1502592
    >>1502588
    i lol'd

    you'd be surprised
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)14:59 No.1502595
    >>1502590
    because I have eyes
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)15:06 No.1502596
    >>1502595
    Curious eyes.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)15:50 No.1502616
    >>1502585
    Because you are a pedophile.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)16:22 No.1502643
    What's wrong? It's just a photo.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)16:44 No.1502667
    >>1502532
    You beat me to it.
    >> Jeremo 01/27/12(Fri)16:55 No.1502680
    I do alright now, Ive just started working on feature films.

    Good times.
    >> true story Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)17:16 No.1502696
    >be on /b/
    >find myself in a cp thread
    >looking at naked children
    >mentally critique the lighting, composition, poses of images in thread

    /p/

    (I think they were mostly from some eastern European photo agency called LS or BD - anyway, you know the ones I'm talking about)
    >> Anonymous 01/27/12(Fri)17:29 No.1502707
    >>1502696
    Oh this one isn't that extreme.
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)16:44 No.1503635
    I don't even have a DSR yet. :\
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)17:13 No.1503655
    >>1503635
    WHAT
    >> Anonymous 01/28/12(Sat)17:18 No.1503658
    >>1503655
    I just have a normal camera at the moment. I've been unsure of what one to get. I don't want to regret my purchase.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)00:07 No.1503985
    >>1502696

    LS models was shut down.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2004_Ukrainian_child_pornography_raids
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)00:15 No.1503995
    >>1502696

    >you know the ones I'm talking about

    this is what pedos actually believe.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)10:14 No.1504420
    >>1502571
    Taste is subjective.
    >> Would you? Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)11:45 No.1504484
    So here's the question. You're an out of work photographer and an opportunity comes up to shoot for a child modelling agency. You will be doing it anonymously (so your friends and family need never know), and everything is above board (no nudity, everything legal). But here's the thing; you know the images will be published in books/online for the sole purpose of being purchased by pedos who get off on this shit. Do you accept the job? Is it even exploitation? You get paid, the models get paid, the parents are happy for them to do it, the models seem to enjoy being in front of the camera, nobody is hurt... so, where's the problem?

    Hard Mode: soaking wet 2 piece bikini shoot.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)11:49 No.1504487
    >>1504484
    meh, why not. I really don't care who gets off on it. People can get off to a photograph on anything. The actual job is no different from fashion photography. I'm not going to stop shooting wildlife just because I know there are people out there into bestiality.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)11:53 No.1504489
    >>1504486
    This is how things work in Japan. Pictures of young girls are published in books/online for the sole purpose of being purchased by pedos. Talking about this social phenomenon doesn't make me one.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)12:35 No.1504510
    >>1504493

    I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at. Maybe you missed the point of my post. I presented a 'what if' scenario because I was interested in how the anon of /p/ would react to it. I didn't offer my own personal opinion or take on that scenario.

    I think kids are really interesting subjects to shoot and enjoy shooting portraits or candids of children of family/friends whenever I get the chance. But personally I would only shoot for such an agency if the money was really good. I would prefer not to contribute to the sexualization of children becoming more socially acceptable - which I think agencies such as those in Japan are doing.

    Now, exploring the themes of sexuality and childhood in art is a different matter altogether. Sally Mann, for instance.
    >> The Dude - forgot the trip on the other pc 01/29/12(Sun)12:51 No.1504519
    >>1504510
    >Sally Mann, for instance.

    LOL when actually I read she's very appreciated by a pedophile who wrote this article
    http://mirror.wikileaks.info/wiki/An_insight_into_child_porn/

    >"This magazine was sold everywhere - sometimes from under the counter. Only in the 80s the magazine was discontinued due to new laws set. From the 90s, the notion of child pornography expanded ever further. In the 70s and 80s, nudist magazines such as "Young and Free," "Sunshine Friends", etc. were still perfectly legal to buy. Even artists such as David Hamilton, Jock Sturges and Sally Mann published images of naked children and adolescents, which was at the time was considered an art
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)13:04 No.1504528
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    >>1504519

    >on /p/
    >not knowing who Sally Mann is
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    >> The Dude - forgot the trip on the other pc 01/29/12(Sun)13:07 No.1504532
    >>1504528
    I know who she is you retard
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)13:22 No.1504544
    >>1504484
    That's the dilemma. I mean it's no different from fapping over some girl's Facebook beach party photos.

    Art =/= Sexual
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)13:24 No.1504546
    >>1504493
    So the millions that buy this stuff in Japan where its legal...what do you have to say about them? They're a functioning 1st world society just like good ol' USA.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)13:28 No.1504552
    >>1504519

    I was reading that earlier and clearly the person who typed all that shit up is a pedophile trying to defend their guilts.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)13:46 No.1504564
    >>1504546
    In many ways Japanese society is superior to America (of course vice versa as well). It's illegal to be fat (no seriously, you'll be fined or fired if you don't get under a certain BMI), the transit and rapid transit systems are some of the best in the world, and finally, if you work hard to get into a good university and do well, you're basically guaranteed a job. As opposed to the US where I see people with Masters' waiting tables and shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)13:50 No.1504567
    >>1504564
    So you're saying 13 onwards buy this sorta stuff and no one one really gets all worked up about it?
    >> The Dude - forgot the trip on the other pc 01/29/12(Sun)13:59 No.1504574
    >>1504484
    If you accept such job, even letting aside moral issues and laws, you are deliberately encouraging pedophile's behaviours and even if in the studio everyone is happy outside if some piece of shit get overexcited and rape a child is partly your fault.
    Sexualizing children, expecially before puberty, it's a very dangerous thing to do because you are encouraging sexual attention to them. A lot of sick losers will begin to go around for them once the association is done.

    The work of LS models is particularly dangerous IMO, because it presents childrens in a way that is very appealable even to "normal" adults. One that normally finds CP repulsive might instead feel attracted by LS's style because the pre-pubescent girls resemble grown up pin ups. It's a very dangerous "image bending" game that can trigger and encourage predatory behaviours toward childrens
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)14:19 No.1504579
    >>1504574

    >Look at pictures of naked women
    >Instantly feel the desire to rape women

    >Be exposed to pictures of naked men
    >Instantly change my sexual preferences and become homosexual
    >> The Dude - forgot the trip on the other pc 01/29/12(Sun)14:29 No.1504586
    >>1504579
    you seem to have understand shit.

    now, take a look at this:
    http://wakaba.ojab.ru/wakaba/src/PionaP15_007.jpg
    and tell me how it feels
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)14:30 No.1504588
    >>1504579
    >Look at naked women
    >Instantly have desire to have consensual sex with naked women

    >Look at naked children
    >Instantly...THEY'RE NAKED FUCKING CHILDREN.

    How is this even an argument?
    Oh wait, I'm on 4chan.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)14:32 No.1504590
    >>1504579

    Dude that's awesome. Remember that show The Pretender? Didn't air for very long as I recall, but you are like that. But like sexed. Sweet.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)15:10 No.1504609
    >>1504586

    I didn't 'feel' anything. But what I see is a nubile teenager.

    OK i think you've well and truly established that you would never accept a job at one of those child modelling agencies. You seem to be on a morality crusade against what is nothing more than a hypothetical scenario.
    >> The Dude - forgot the trip on the other pc 01/29/12(Sun)15:49 No.1504623
    >>1504609
    >hypothetical scenario

    well, no Herman. Read the link about the LS models crackdown, or the one of written by the pedo no wikileaks. It's not hypotetical, the scenario described was just what happened at LS agency with "professional" photographers and all.

    >morality crusade
    I'm very far from being a moralfag. Even if I picked on Sally Mann, I don't consider her work as "pedophile" in its nature. But explicit and mere sexualization of children (the girl in the pic was 12 at the time) without any other "higher" aim than mere profit (so essentially pornography, even if in a soft form) it's something terrible.
    From my point of view children that have hit puberty obviously have a sexuality and they shuold have the possibility to explore it with any traumatic experience and especially with no abuse.

    The thing that is wrong with children, and with everyone should take these topics with pliers and very carefully, is mainly their legal status: let's face it, even if we tell us they are protected by the law (maybe the criminal ones) they are actually 2nd class citizens in most of the countries.
    They have no economic power and legal status to defend their will by legal means, and if the abuse happens to be perpetrated by their own parents they can't do pretty much anything. They can only wait to become legally adult, and then? Their life is pretty ruined already.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)16:42 No.1504643
    >>1504586
    >implying I'm gonna click that link

    Nice try.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)16:56 No.1504647
    >>1504586
    that is one NICE ass
    >>1504643
    yeah man the FBI is already waiting in front of you house, don't click it!!!
    >> The Dude !dudeCNpp3w 01/29/12(Sun)16:57 No.1504648
    it's nothing sinister.
    It's reachable thru google with safesearch on medium
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)18:20 No.1504708
    >>1504586
    Fat roll where the latex boot ends, wouldn't bang.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)21:43 No.1504878
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    >> kosawi 01/29/12(Sun)21:48 No.1504881
    >>1504878
    Too old, wouldn't fuck.

    Once I was on /b/ and saw a thread with "not CP, just professional girls doing serious modeling"

    i said that it was CP, saged and reported it, and I got banned for posting on a CP thread...
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)21:51 No.1504882
    >>1504510
    What if we already do this for free.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)21:53 No.1504884
    >>1504574
    What if the causality runs the opposite way? Rapes are way down post widespread access to the internet (and tons of free porn) became normal.
    >> Anonymous 01/29/12(Sun)22:08 No.1504892
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    >>1504881
    People are pedoparanoiacs, they see CP in everything.
    Sad, I haven't seen models under 13-14 years at the festival. Nymphets coated in indecent costumes were everywhere, just like in a dream. Picrelated is 16yo. Not too old, not too yong.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)17:04 No.1505589
    >>1504892
    Do you have more?
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)17:29 No.1505611
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    >>1504892
    My god.
    >> tortilla 01/30/12(Mon)17:35 No.1505617
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    >>1504892
    Have you seen the photos from lolipop candygirl or whatever the fuck the sites are called, little girls in latex outfits with a whip erotic poses you'd expect to see only on adults magazines! That was obviously CP.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)17:44 No.1505623
    >>1505617
    so latex and whips are automaticall pornography?
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)17:46 No.1505628
    >>1505617
    >>1505623
    It's a fine line. Acceptable in Japan for a fact but I am not 100% sure outside.
    >> tortilla 01/30/12(Mon)17:55 No.1505635
    >>1505623
    >so latex and whips are automaticall pornography?
    No, but when they cover less than 10% of your body and use a sexually suggestive pose, then yes.

    >>1505628
    >Acceptable in Japan for a fact but I am not 100% sure outside.
    They're fucked up peeps that' why. In Japan, it's not ok to show a girls private parts, but it's ok to show her open butthole shitting like a furious volcano. Fucking priorities mang.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)18:27 No.1505672
    >>1505635
    Personally I don't see it as fucked up. It's just provocative and a different form of expression. People over there probably don't get so worked up about it. Most people wouldn't go out and act their fantasies just because of some photo shoots as well. Nobody gets harmed at the end of the day.

    The US is just always on edge and believe their ways and laws are the right ways. Girls walk out in the streets in clothing that's covering hardly any skin - I guess they should all be arrested. No country is perfect with their laws and priorities. The USA has a very messy law system in my opinion due to the differencing of laws between states.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)18:31 No.1505675
    >>1505672
    To be honest, it's best to consider North America to be a separate continent from the rest of America, or at best, a federation comprising of multiple countries that can operate freely unless it conflicts with what the administrative country (Washington) says.
    I reckon Europe will fall into that system soon too, seeing how the Euro can't survive if the EU consists of the countries it does today.
    >> tortilla 01/30/12(Mon)18:37 No.1505680
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    >>1505672
    >The USA has a very messy law system in my opinion due to the differencing of laws between states.
    Not just the laws, morality in general. I don't let my little sister go out dress like a slut, but my mom doesn't care, no one cares anymore. It saddens me when I go pick her up after school and see all those girls wearing almost nothing, walking alone through the ghetto. Don't their parents care about them?
    What about the parents of those girls on the candymodel sites? Probably ugly fat bitches that are living their dreams through their children.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:02 No.1505707
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    >>1505680
    Well, it's probably the only good amount of income for their parents. They're not getting abused, they're getting paid probably quite a lot per set and so the parents and her daughter can live better off than before. They probably even monitor them during the shoots, much like when you have a nude scene in a film (like American Beauty).

    I'm against girls that haven't even reached puberty and are wearing outfits to increase their "sex appeal" but by the time you're a teen, I guess it's only natural to start dressing more like an adult to prepare you for your young adult years. The American film Thirteen is a good example of this.

    You don't have to show more skin at the end of the day to look nice. You can blame music videos and fashion magazines for that.

    Pic related...an American magazine featuring Dakota Fanning.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:03 No.1505708
    >>1505589
    http://vk.com/taiga_tyan
    http://2ch.so/fd/res/1152185.html#1159225
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:04 No.1505711
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    Maybe this would be a better example of American media. Again, Dakota Fanning. Was banned in UK but acceptable in US.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:06 No.1505712
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    ...and finally another American photoshoot featuring AnnaSophia Robb (17 at the time).
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:16 No.1505719
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    >>1505712
    I lost my breakfast.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:18 No.1505720
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    >implying no one here makes money on their work

    >implying that everyone's dream on /p/ is to get paid for their work

    >mfw when I get paid to take pictures of drunk people and don't have some shitty repetitive job that I hate
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:28 No.1505732
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    >>1505719
    >Elle Fanning

    Also done in the USA.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:29 No.1505733
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    Another Elle Fanning shoot. Again USA citizen, USA shoot.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)19:29 No.1505734
    >>1505719
    Whut? You must be a father or something. AnnaSophia is hot.
    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)23:12 No.1505899
    >>1505734
    No. She's not. Candydoll_Sofia69 and LS_Vicka_anal_gangster_9yo is hot.
    >> tortilla 01/30/12(Mon)23:39 No.1505917
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    >>1505707
    Have you seen the show [on TLC I believe] called toddlers and tiaras? The parents are living their dreams through the kids and almost forcing them, emphasis on the word almost, because the parents use techniques such as "I'll buy you this if you do it" or "you'll be a winrar if you do that". I couldn't stand half hour of that bullshit. The father of one of the girls said her wife turned his little girl into a midget prostitute.

    I love photos of little kids being kids, not kids being whores.
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    >> Anonymous 01/30/12(Mon)23:48 No.1505930
    >>1505917
    agreed. TLC shows are fucking shit.
    >> Anonymous 01/31/12(Tue)14:55 No.1506637
    >>1505899
    Ah, so you don't prefer sexually developed girls? This is why you'll never get on in society.



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