don't be that guy who only shoots ISO 100 because he doesn't want noise and consequently misses many great shots

Making a good photo is 10% your camera and 90% how good a photographer you are.

Never delete photos, you'll like them later..

>Valuable Advice
>Ambient light can be controlled by shutterspeed.

ROFL.

you might want to check the archive.

>>1191254


lets have this kind of thread atleast once a week guise!

Don't be a slave to your meter. Some of the best shots I've ever seen are darker than 18% gray.

>>1191263
it true anon
not sure if troll or very stupid

>>1191263
I THINK what he means here is that if you're shooting with a flash you can increase your shutterspeed to lower ambient lighting in relation to the flash?

>>1191268
that's it, but op is still a fool

Use your flashgun OFF CAMERA.
Onboard flash always sucks.

Don't get bummed out when 90% of your shoot is/turned out to be utter shit. Again. and again. and again.

Shoot manual.
Once you figured out how a camera works, use Ap or Sp.
Never use those lame preset programs.
Spend money on glasses.

>>1191276
This. Only teenage hipsters that don't know shit use presets.

>>1191276
>Shoot manual.
>use Ap or Sp.

>>1191276
>Spend money on glasses.
lulz

>show models yer junk
>make em blow you while snapping shots
>cum on thier faces
>tell them they look fabulous
>be terry richardson

1) Photography is not a beauty contest
2) Photography it's not about subject in a photo.
3) Photography is about a photographer, how a photographer sees and what thinks about surrounding reality.
4) Good photo is most important that good news.
5) Think about composition, learn about it and practice it.
6) Nobody will tell you if you are really good or really bad photographer. You must find it yourself.
7) Don't waste your time and your money. Use the fastest and the cheapest way to obtain what you want.
8) Follow rules only to not to get lost yourself and break rules only to find yourself.

>>1191288
requesting pic

>>1191281
reading, can you?

>>1191288
>be terry richardson
>implying Terry Richardson can be considered a real photographer

>>1191351
>he takes photos for a living
>he fucks a lot
>you jelly, he photographer

>>1191351
>jelly of terry

>>1191367
>>1191364
I'm not saying I'm not jelly (who isn't?)
I'm saying he is not a photographer in a proper sense.
He's just a rich brat son of a famous fashion photographer that thought it was more easy to use the father's name and to show hookers on his dick then really learn how to take photos properly. And yes, it worked, good for him. But he's not skilled at photography at all.

>>1191299
Got any examples of said strobe?

Enable show highlights on preview image (for clipping) Always avoid blowing them when possible!

Every time you relocate yourself even if you think the exposure will be correct always preview your shots.

Refocus as often as possible. With shallow DoF lenses you won't even notice how a small shift in your body will completely fuck the focus.

RAW RAW RAW RAW RAW. There is absolutely no reason to use JPG.

Learn how to process. Many images can be saved by removing distractions. So even if you're a purist, learn anyway. Your photos will drastically improve.

When shooting a model never show any doubt or lack of confidence. Even if the current shots are plain bad never ever reveal this. This has the potential to kill the entire shoot if the model isn't extremely experienced.

If shooting in any area with other photographers. Be assertive! If they're shooting over the shoulder or are interfering with you in any other way simply remove them from that area. I've seen photographers lose their shots because they're too polite and they let others push them around.

-Don't forget to turn off autofocus and IS during time lapses
-Long exposure in a city full of lights does not automagically a good photo
-Memory cards you buy for the camera do really matter in terms of speed
-Shooting at your lens' best aperture all the time is a bad idea, especially during night time

Not exactly helpful info since posts in this thread have already covered most of them, but there you have it.

buying cheap lighting is good and bad. mostly bad.

on the good side, you save money and get to experiment with lighting.

on the bad side, you get what you pay for. They can't hold a candle to the quality of brands like elinchrom, profoto, etc. So if you wanted to step into the pro-realm and wanted to take it beyond a hobby, you'd be buying lighting equipment all over again.

oh and one more thing.

if you're running a business, check out software like studio plus. You can schedule sessions, maintain a pricelist, it handles your total professional workflow, etc.

>>1191720
you can't just say it's bad and leave it at that.
what are the problems you ran into with these cheaper strobes?

stay away from the hos on 5th and main. they're all traps

>>1191747
want em all to yourself eh?

Don't leave the camera laying lens to the sun.
Don't keep lenses in a damp bungalow during monsoon season without a pelican.
It's easier to beg forgiveness than it is to seek permission.

>>1191722
Never used em. Don't have to.

Cheaper strobes are made (by definition) with cheaper components. Cheaper circuitry, design, mod lights/bulbs, lack of wireless, features, flash duration, lack of quality mods..etc.

That's not an opinion, that's a fact. You can't make a $300 light the quality of a $800 light and make a profit. There will be cut corners. For me it's the little things. Being able to use a skyport transmitter to change settings on 3-4 600RXs from my camera.. oh is the fill a little harsh? Well, it's mounted about 8 feet above me, but nbd ill just touch 2 buttons on the speed rx. Stuff like that.

I can understand going cheap for starting off, but you need to understand up front that it will be more expensive in the long run if you want upgrades. You'll have to rebuild the entire system. It's far better to get a low-end brand name monolight and then upgrade along their line, than get a noname high-powered light.

>>1191825
>You can't make a $300 light the quality of a $800 light and make a profit
you can if the $800 light costs $250 to manufacture

Don't stand up in a canoe.

>>1191825
You never used them, yet you make these claims on the supposed lack of quality. Do you really believe Elinchrom is spending say $500 making an $800 strobe?

But I get it. At start, many were talking shit about the Yongnuo's triggers too, probably because they are offering the same capabilities as the long-loved pocketwizards plus II for a fraction of the price... I'd be a little butthurt too spending $200 on a single Pocketwizard 2.4ghz transceiver, when I could get a set of 3 or 4 2.4ghz YNs. I bet they'll soon have TTL capability as well.

Sorry, I digress.

As far as modifiers go, even cheaper strobes are usually compatible with s-type mount so you can use pretty much anything from any brand.

The only feature I'm missing is that remote you talk about for changing the power of the strobe, but since I usually just work with one light (if two, the other is a small flash like a 580exII) it's not a major annoyance.

>>1191868
>>1191834
>>1191825
>>1191722

I've been using a lot of cheap-ass strobes and now I own an Elinchrom setup (Ranger RX and Quadra), and I've been using a lot of other Elinchrom stuff. Now I use Profoto 7A and 7B kits that I have free access to.

I've had a lot of problems with the cheap strobes but no problems whatsoever ever with the Elinchrom and Profoto stuff.
I'd say go for speedlights if you want to be cheap or save up for the proper stuff.
However, if you just want to play around a bit, just get a cheap strobe but be careful. It won't last long, the white balance will be inconsistent, long flash duration, you will get electrical shocks when touching it etc. but it can be a decent way to learn stuff. Make sure you get something very cheap and don't ever try to do pro work with it because one day it will fail you.
I still keep a cheap (250$) 500Ws strobe (all the other cheap ones are pretty much dead or work very inconsistently) at my parents place to play around with whenever I'm there.

>>1191825
You're assuming that $800 light is even necessary. And in certain cases they can help, but $300 can be just as good.

Just because you paid $1 million dollars for a fork, doesn't mean the dollar store fork can't work just as well.

>>1191891
it's a shame i can't find a seller for those in the european ebay.
i've heard good things about the quantuum (yes, it's with two Us) strobes but they're a bit more expensive

>>1191874
You've never used an Elinchrom, and yet you make these claims on the supposed lack of value.

>Photographers who don't know what they're missing are cute.

>then you don't have a creditable opinion.

wow. yea, I mean I've only worked in a studio that had about 40 monolights in it, what do i know..

>>1191970
You're a complete idiot. Where did I say I haven't used an Elinchrom? Go on, read my post again. I'll wait.

Done? Yeah.

Just because I don't own one, doesn't mean I haven't used one. And if you still believe there's $500 worth of electronics and whatnot in a $800 Elinchrom (just the example I used), then I feel very sorry for you and your lack of common sense.

>>1191971
You could have worked with every single strobe and flash in the world but if you haven't used the strobe in question, your opinion has absolutely no value. You haven't seen it work, you haven't used it, how can you express an opinion about something you know nothing about?

I'm not saying you made a bad purchase with the Elinchroms, it's a very, very good one. They are reliable and do exactly what you payed for. But that doesn't mean the cheaper brands are shit.
The cheaper brands are becoming more and more competitive. You should be happy for that and stop bashing.

I'm not bashing, I stand by my original point. If you're ever going to get serious about studio photography, you're going to want one of the major 4-5 brands. If you want to go cheap go for a white lightning or bee, geez. At least then you'll get decent customer service and repair.

Who you sending that chinese strobe to for repair? Oh right, once it breaks you're kind of shit out of luck and need to buy another one.

best advice: take lots of photos. it's the only way to learn. you can't learn much from books other than the basics, but looking at the photos of the great masters will help.

watch your corners and take your landscapes from a squat, the lower angle is boss.

>>1192019
and eat your damn vegetables

>>1191264
>>1191264
seconded

>>1191279
>>1191276

Don't realize that P* can be used to change Sp and Ap at the same time. Invaluable when you need shots quick at different Aps.

>>1191406
>>1191299

Proxiee, did you ever disseminate that /p/ collection? I've been away for sometime and seem to have missed the download information. I can haz pl0x?

-Anonymous

>>1192022
>wonders why file deleted

>>1191262
FUCKING THIS.

Shoot like a pro. Get a tripcode.

Have a good reason to release the shutter.

>>1192272
also applies to kraken

>>1192275
nah.. its cool.
i got this.
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>>1192216
mods hate ponies

Improvise, and don't always buy the most expensive stuff. One person I know created a softbox by buying a studio bulb and placing a white sheet over a box he made himself.
I used tin foil as a cheap reflector to lessen shadows when taking a macro still life, and used the same technique to create a light box for light stencils.

try most of the time, to do manual focus

>>1192342
>>1192342
Thanks for the dl info. What's your email?

>>1192342
How big is the file? I'm not a torrent user, so I'll have to set that up :/

>>1192403
disregard, I'm downloading now

downloading what guise c'mon what the fuck?!

>>1192480
the p portfolio proxiee put together last month

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=NEJRLMA6

>>1192497
I downloaded this the other day, who the fuck is Ham? I like the shots.

>>1192480
Mod deleted proxiees post (and banned him) bc of little ponies.
>>1192398
Proxiee@gmail.com

>>1192527
>>most helpful/interesting/productive thing on /p/ for like 2 years
>>banhammer

I hope that's not the case

>>1192535
That would be seriously idiotic if it was.

>>1192561
>>1192535
*sigh* remember when we had nice things?
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>>1192535
>>1192567
Hmm... Seems the ban was for ponies, not for the DL link :(

Sadness.

some great advice for beginners such as myself, so please, pleas PLEASE keep them coming.

Also what is the point of arguing about strobe lights online? you clearly won't change the other person's mind and your faggotry is slowly killing a solid thread.

I would say that you just need to consider your subject from ALL angles and how you fill the frame with them. It's all about what you're really trying to go for. With nature it can be hard because it almost all looks the same. I've got some examples on my deviant art. I would suggest you get one so you can view others' photography. My deviant art name is Iz0x0Iz

If you're on a budget but desire a new lens, take a look at what fossils you can dig up first. Lenses aren't like smartphones or other technical knicknacks that beg to be upgraded every 6-8 months. If you're looking for nothing more than a way to extend your shooting potential beyond your kit lens, it's worth looking into 10, 15, 20-year old lenses.

Case in point, tonight I scored a Minolta 35-70mm f/4 Macro for my Sony a33 for $40. Friggin' steal. The legendary beercan 70-210mm f/4 runs about $115 when I find one. Can get 3 good (for the price) lenses for the cost of one recent cheap release. Now if only Sony/Minolta had a quality wide angle....

All-purpose position for on-camera flash is 45degrees up and to the side as shown - you can get slightly off-axis light (even a few inches helps) and simultaneously a little fill and direct flash in both portrait and landscape orientation.

the other is using the palm of your white-bread pale hand to bounce a little light forward to give an image a little pop if you're bouncing the flash directly up at the ceiling
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Please please please don't shoot b&w or sepia just because, it doesn't automatically make your image better!!!

Not only that, but I'm tired of seeing the same photoshop effects on everyone's pictures lately. Don't do the retro vintage look where it's yellow and orangey and oldish looking OR burn/blacken the edges just because it looks cool.

I don't think that photography is just about something looking cool, it just so happens that the good stuff sends a message/has a statement whilst looking awesome.

Work on focusing your message(s) first, most of the time composition has a lot to do with this!

>>1192627
Please please please don't shoot color just because, it doesn't automatically make your image better!!!

I'd argue that color does not belong in many of the photos in which it appears.

If the colors do not add to or support the photo's narrative - why have them?

>>1192633

It certainly makes sense to use either B&W or color if you know how to use either. But you can only learn by shooting either a LOT.

hey any advice on shooting in public?
do people generally not care if you're just taking photos of stuff or do they generally give you looks?

is there an etiquette?

>>1192633
>>1192627
Summary: It's not enough to take a photo just because. A good photographer knows WHY the image needs to be seen. A great photographer finds the way to best bring that message out, within the context of the message itself.

>>1192746
Depends on how conspicuous you are.
Swivel LCDs are a gift to photographers who don't want their subjects to know they're in the shot. Just pretend you're checking settings and snap.

Technically you guys have a lot of background (which is important in photography) but you are trying to command people the proper way of doing this, when the medium is less than 200 years old. I'm so damn sick of the pretentious fucks who tell you the "right and wrong way" of taking a photo. It's just too god damn subjective and too god damn young of an art style to be bossing around people with.

Straight forward advice: If you like the photo, you like the photo. If you used a three point lighting system on a bright day for no fucking reason and you just wanted to be a fuck head, and the photo comes out great, woopdeefuckingdoo, you have a great photo. YES, there are ways to hone the technical skills of photography and cameras and light control, etc. BUT NO, you can not decide what is and is not a good photo. SHHHESSUSSS CHRIST!

Is /p/ just 15 y/o hipsters now?

>>1191396
so what is a raw format?

>>1192771
everything this guy said except the hipster part. fuck the hipsters and their khaki colored vests.

>>1192771
THANK YOU!
for fucks sake people

>>1192771
It's an advice thread. Not a laying down the unbreakable law of the land thread. What's in here should be taken with a grain of salt. Relax. There's no need to blow a gasket on people trying to learn and those that are trying to help them.

>>1192771
You seem to be overlooking the fact that people learn from other people. Over time, certain techniques are shown to create more visually appealing images and certain techniques are shown to be visually annoying. Someone could read a couple obscure books about photography, never having taken a photo and still contribute advice that could improve the imagery of a photographer who's been working for fifty years. The suggestions in this thread aren't meant to be rules that can never be broken, guidelines/tips to improve in visual communication skills and technical advice in using a camera.

Maybe you want to start from scratch, making the same mistakes that every other photographer has made in the past so you can feel like you're unique. Not me, I'd rather learn form the mistakes/discoveries of others and use that knowledge as a base for my own technique. I'll take into consideration any possible knowledge that has a chance to improve my trade. Will I implement it? Maybe. I'll experiment to see if I like the result so I can decide for myself.

Golden hour, bitches.

If you're poor as fuck and cant afford to buy the newest lenses, just rent them for the day/week instead.

>>1192904
ITT: horrible advice
>get that payday loan gary coleman did commercials for - 140% apr

Best piece of advice I was given when I first started:

>The background is more important than the subject.

Even though that's not necessarily true, I've found it to be a good mindset to stay in.

>>1192941
What're you on, son? The background's always more important.

>>1192945
no.

actual quotes from actual photographers:

martin parr
1. Make sure people aren’t smiling. Otherwise you end up with a snapshot.
2. Move in closer when you’re taking people shots.
3. Find the right environment – by which I mean the right environment for that person.
4. Then make sure people aren’t smiling again. This is the biggest error in portraits taken by amateurs.
5. For candid shots, just keep persevering. Your luck will come in the end.

Rankin:
6. You should never think that the camera is the most important thing. You need to simply find a camera that you enjoy using and stick to that. You should just use the camera as a tool.
7. You need to experiment and take risks. This is what we did in the early days of Dazed & Confused. Take risks. Look at good work being done by other people, but never copy.
8. You need to think about light all the time. Photography is about light, and it can come from any source – the sun, a candle, a computer.
9. Try to engage with the subject. You have to like people to do my job. You need to look outside of the lens, get the relationship going, and only then take the photograph.

vincent munier:
10. You can’t rush nature photography and you really have to watch your subject for a long time in order to understand its behaviour.
11. You need to know when it’s the perfect time to take the shot. I try to use only natural light and avoid heavy digital enhancement.
12. Spend time studying the species and habitat you’re shooting. Try to visualise how you’re going to take the shot before you do so.
13. Never disturb the animal or its habitat to get the shot.

nick danziger:
14. Be engaged with your subject, but at the same time be considerate – you are the guest.
15. Think about combining the composition of the shot with the context of where you’re taking it. The two shouldn’t be separated.
16. For my kind of work, I try to use natural light wherever possible. It’s more natural!
17. Ask permission to get in close. It’s much better than trying to shoot people farther away.
18. I only use Photoshop very sparingly as I believe I shouldn’t add or remove anything from the kind of portraits I take. I just use software for dodging and burning in black and white for example.

bob martin:
19. Pre-empt the action. Even the fastest SLRs will have a delay.
20. Never forget about composition. The background is crucial.
21. Make sure the subject is big enough in the frame and think about what the subject will do next.
22. When shooting sports, you must have the right lens on a camera at the right time – there’s no time to change lenses.
23. Learn how to shoot in RAW. You won’t get the most from your photography if you only shoot JPEGs.

matt stuart:
27. Have a camera with you at all times. You never know when something is going to happen.
28. Wear suitable shoes. If you’re walking around for a long time, you need something comfortable.
29. Keep your elbows in. If you put your elbows out like a chicken when you lift the camera to your face, it makes people very aware of you.
30. Be patient and optimistic. Give things as much time as you can and never lose hope that a great picture is just around the corner.
31. Don’t forget to smile at people when you’re photographing them. It makes you less threatening.

dan chung:
32. Respect your subject and try to be sensitive to their wishes.
33. Know the law where you’re shooting, and how it will affect you taking photos.
34. Take note: it’s very hard to make a good living out of serious news photography. Be persistent and be prepared to be quite broke too!

david doubilet:
36. Learn about light – study great images and see how they were made.
37. Go to a museum and learn about pictures – who made them, and which ones you like and why.
39. Try everything – we’re no longer constrained by 36 exposures.

cameron davidson:
63. Don’t follow trends or copy other people’s work.
64. Focus on the image and the emotion, and focus less on digital trickery.
65. Think about creating images that look fantastic straight out of the camera, without relying on post-processing Photoshop enhancements.
66. Concentrate on your unique vision and learn to listen to yourself.
67. Finally, shoot what you love. Then keep shooting, keep shooting and keep shooting.

tim laman:
100. Do your homework – the more you know about your subject, the better you’ll be able to photograph it. And I don’t just mean reading books. Watching animals and learning to read their behaviour and anticipating what they’ll do next can make a huge difference in getting the shot of a decisive moment.
101. Put in the time – get out there and put your time in the field. The only way to guarantee that you won’t get any pictures is to be sitting at home.
102. Practice – shooting birds in flight, for example, even with autofocus, is an acquired skill. Find something to practice on, like gulls at a pier, and hone your reflexes.

gordon wiltsie:
107. Thinking of becoming a professional photographer? At the beginning, find another career that gets you outdoors a lot. Unless you’re brilliant or very lucky, it’s hard to survive as a full-time pro from day one.
108. Look at thousands of pictures of your area of speciality, and get to know your camera inside out.
109. Try to develop a personal style to make your work stand out. Chip Simons went as far as using yellow flash and fish-eye lenses, but every great pro has a unique style.
110. Don’t sell yourself short – make sure you get paid the going rate for a good shot, and don’t waste time with stock libraries.

jonas bendikson
120. Find photographic topics you feel truly passionate about.
121. Put in the time, even if there’s no assignment. Profound photographic work only comes with time.
122. Get out of bed early so you get the wonderful early light.
123. Move around a lot – don’t be afraid of trying new ways of seeing.
124. Talk to a lot of people, all of the time.

david loftus:
128. Don’t stress! Keep a sense of humour, and remember how lucky you are. Clients appreciate it, and word of arrogance and obnoxiousness soon gets around.
129. Show your portfolio to as many people as possible and persevere.
130. Make friends with your photo lab, Metro helped me immensely at the beginning, and always offered advice, and commiseration when things went wrong!
131. Always keep your copyright!
132. Take a back up camera and memory cards. And never rely on your hard drive...

peter van agtmael:
138. Study photographers from a range of disciplines. There’s a lot to learn and labels are silly and limiting.
139. Shoot constantly. Make sure you really love it and are willing to make a lot of sacrifices.
140. Care about your subjects and treat them as you would want to be treated yourself.
141. Be modest and open-minded.
142. Don’t use the camera as a filter. Be mindful and sensitive of the situation you’re in.

roseanne pennella:
161. Move forward – whatever distance you’re shooting from, halve it.
162. Pay attention to what falls on the four edges of the frame. Crop in camera. Make sure you’re not including (or excluding) anything you didn’t pay attention to before you click the shutter.
163. Try not to centre all your images. Consider other places in the frame to place your subject.
164. Pay attention to what’s behind your subject and make sure what’s there doesn’t detract from the image.
165. Shoot RAW rather than JPEG. When you have a RAW file you’ve got so much more information to work with and it will vastly improve your ability to make better prints of your photos.

Chewie, where are you taking these from? Some are great, I'd love a link, if there is one.

pal hermansen:
190. The most important question to ask yourself is: what is a good image? If you can’t come up with any other answer apart from because people have told you what is good, go back to the start and do your own research.
191. Don’t just copy what you see, try to find your own approach. This is a real challenge in today’s flood of images.
192. Get to know art and the history of photography, so you don’t have to keep reinventing the wheel.
193. Find a subject that interests you and go into it deep. Find what has been done before, and do something different. Some people expect to be a world-class photographer after just practising a year or two. This is impossible. You have to put in the time to find your own style.

philip plisson:
212. Be self-confident and don’t wait for permission from other people – I wish I’d realised this when I was 20.
213. Get to know a subject you’re passionate about before you try to photograph it.
214. Learn as much as you can about light.
215. Learn from the master nature photographers of the past.
216. I’m not a teacher, but remember that the success of each image depends on the emotional quotient of each person looking at it.

>>1193293
here, but I thought i'd just copy and paste relevant ones (leaving out the garden photographer tips and similar) itt rather than just post a link to something that may have disappeared soon.
http://www.photoradar.com/techniques/tips/225-photography-tips-to-inspire-you?page=0%2C4

aldo pavan:
217. Reject all those tired old strategies for visual communication – try to come up with something fresh.
218. Don’t be afraid of interpreting reality according to your personal style.
219. Don’t become a slave to your equipment – a good shot can be taken even with a cheap compact.
220. Understand that the photo isn’t an end to itself but a means to understand the world around us.

pete turner:
221. Looking back, the real plus for me was to have a great portfolio and great prints, so this is still really important if you want to get noticed.
222. Shoot what you really like, as your passion for the subject will shine through.
223. Look behind you when you’re out shooting, too.
224. Try to stick with one focal length – you get more interesting shots.
225. Study lighting and shooting angles until you’re an expert.

thats it that i thought were relevant enough, take from it what you want, google the names if you want to see if they know what they're talking about but each one makes a living from photography

>>1193295
Thanks. I only ask because I'm not at my regular computer right now, andmight not be back on /p/ for a while, so I'd hate to lose these.

chewie!uWookieV6A:
1 How to become a professional photographer:
Buy a digital camera.
2 Tricks of the trade:
Have a look on the camera, somewhere, probably on the top or back or somewhere on the front or sides there will be a button or dial marked 'A', this does not stand for 'Automatic' as some amateurs think but 'Awesome'. Leave it on this all the time.
3 Photography courses:
There is no need for even a basic photography course because once you buy a digital camera you will be a professional photographer like me. Not as good as me though.
4 Lighting:
You will need some light otherwise the photos will come out a bit too dark. Usually you can fix them in photoshop but some light to begin with is good.
5 Subject Matter:
Yes, it does. Dont take photos of girls leaving the high school from your car as the fine is $360.00 and a years probation.