And people say American cars don't handle well. Mosler, I am proud.

What track?

>>5910848
Quite a few Vettes got great times on that chart, too. Beat Lambo and Ferrari. Hooray for cheap American power that performs better than expensive Italian sports cars.

Also, let's do something a little different. Here's a blank torque curve. Feel free to draw in
(A) what you know your engine puts out
(B) what you imagine your engine puts out
(C) what it feels like your engine puts out
or
(D) post a dyno sheet for your car (factory or other.)


Also, people with torquey engines, feel free to extend the graph upwards.

People with hondas, feel free to extend the graph to the right.

>>5910852
VIR.

>>5910862
Sorry,
Vertical Axis is lb/ft.
Horizontal is RPM.

Cars above line have shit handling cars below line have good handling

Miata is dead last

>>5910852
"Lightning Lap" is done at VIR Grand Course

>>5910833
Dear god.
The revised IS F suspension and rear LSD for 2011 and later models knocks 8.6 seconds off the lap time if I'm understanding this right.

>>5910880
hmmm, yes, good analysis doctor.

Do you concur?

>>5910911
or just retarded chart maker / typo

Anyways, here's mine for the 4.2 Jeep, as closely as I can tell.

>>5910913
It appears the cars below the line are able to inch out more performance through suspension and braking than cars above the line.

Also dodge viper is faster than british go karts

Cars along the line should be viewed as average in terms of suspension performance whereas cars above the line should be viewed as subpar handlers.

VIR is a power circuit

>>5910952
>> cars above the line...corvette, porsche, lotus, etc

lol ok termi

>>5910975
The plotted line is the relationship between weight hp and lap times. Other variables that would affect the times such as aerodynamics, braking performance, and handling arent accounted for. The vehicles above the plotted line perform worse than average for their hp/weight ratio which means those vehicles performed worse in those variables not accounted for on the graph.

>>5911012

the plotted line is a line of best fit

black is realistic
red is the feel

>>5911070
Did vtec kick in?

>>5911074
no I drive an avalon
but It feels like Im about to take flight when I hit 3.5krpms

>>5911023
Its a scatter plot the line is an average of all of the individual points on the graph recorded. This is simple middle school shit. Thus any point recorded to the top left can be described as "worse than average" and any point recorded at the bottom right can be described as "better than average". The graphed line essentially eliminates any hp or weight advantage these vehicles might have.

looked up a real dyno of it
looked like this
I feel like I got a good guess on my realistic line

>>5911087
stop this right now. 3.0L V6 Automatic Avalons/Camrys have exactly no torks, the only thing they are kind of okay at is staying reliable.

>>5911110

line of best fit

>>5911128
>kind of ok at
kinda god tier reliability

and for the torque
I certainly feel like my avalon has some torque
and I have been with her for ~4 years
I know it doesnt have Tons of torque but its got enough to get up n go

Definitely beats my v12 jag in the get up and go section.

>>5910862
stock b16...

also what is the legend between the shapes and colours? oh wait never mind, car and driver

>>5911128
are you upset because his 3.0 produced more torque and power than the shitty 3.8buick lump in a commodore?

>>5911161
that was supposed to be a two part sentence, but i deleted half of it at the last minute. Originally it said:

> the only thing they are kind of okay at is getting speedy quick in a flat and staying reliable

stop being proud of your avalon this minute

that's stupid as fuck they should have done lap time per price

>>5911176
are you implying it is in anyway different to being proud of a commodore or falcon?

taxilyfe yo

>>5911176
I love my avalon
Ive driven 160k miles in it
but proud of it... lol bro, nice joke

>>5911191
after toyota realized avalons werent selling in aus they went taxi mode too ya know

>Red
Actual torques
>Blue
Dat feel torques

Theoretically I put out 200hp @ 7000rpm and 156ft·lbf @ 5250rpm

>>5911199
that was my point..

they're all taxis

>>5911208

try driving something with a 2zzge if you think vtec is that noticeable