mother fuckin OP...make up your fuckin mind. shit.

anyway /o/ - im buying my first car. thinking of honda fit or kia soul. anyone know anything about the mileage and repair costs of these two vehicles?

A 1994 Ford Mustang is the best choice for anyone new to cars, they're cheap, reliable, look great and have great handling and power in a sporty two-door package.

A Honda Civic is the clear choice for a first car if you live in the USA. Cheap, reliable and whatnot.

>Posting a video to show the POWAH of Dreams.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Or5qif80xQo

>Wat fuel economy does this get?
www.fueleconomy.gov
>I want a sporty car
Ford mustang, Nissan 240SX, Mazda miata, Chevy Camaro, Honda civic SI, VW Golf GTI, BMW M3, Porsche 944
>I want something sporty and good on gas
Nissan 240SX, Honda civic SI, Golf GTI, mazda miata
>I want something i can fix myself
Nissan 240sx, Mazda miata, Honda civic SI
>I just want to get from point A to point B
Saturn, Civic, Camry, Corolla, Escort, or gallant
>I NEED A TRUCK BRUH
fuck you. No you don't
>BUT I WORK
then ask your co-workers what they drive and buy that. As long as it's not a dodge.
>HOW DO I LEARN BOUT CARS?
buy a beater and have shit break, then fix it yourself. Whatever problem you may have, there's a 95% chance someone else had it, and wrote about it on a forum and have a write up.
>Wat tools do i need
Set of combination wrenches, Set of deepwell and standard sockets, breaker bar, and a hammer. Start there and buy more shit as you need it.
>WHY ARE THERE SO MANY TRIPFAGS?
Because tripfags have cars. Stop making something out of nothing peasant.
>I'M IN COLLEGE AND I NEED A CAR AND I SUCK A MILLION COCKS AND I AND I AND I
Get a saturn. You obviously don't give a fuck, and neither does your car.
>I WANT TO RACE
Go to autocross. Then go track racing once you've gotten a bit of seat time under your belt.
>Wat tracks are near me?
http://www.trackpedia.com/wiki/Main_Page
>I'M TAKING MY DRIVERS TEST AND-
study the book, don't go across the lines in the parking lot, and don't drive like a retard. american driving tests are insultingly easy. If euro then move to america. If moving to america, Fuck off we're full.

Honda Civic
Volvo 240
Mercedes 190e
BMW e30
anything with sbc 350

What if I want a cheap car that shows off my wealth?

>>5263591
Early 00's Mercedes or Maserati Quattroporte

oh cool a civic thread

>>5263607
You're right equinox, we can list Impreza's here as a gud car.

>>5263636
I would reccomend imprezas, but they're just too expensive/Beat to hell for someone who HAS to ask wat kar iz gud.

>>5263649

the can take the beating. and aren't expensive at all.

my shell has 175k on it, and it drives like new. not a single fucking squeak.

>>5263654
I'm talkin Sub 10K. Otherwise C4 vette gets to join the crowd. Even the early ones in my area hover round 7K

and yes, the shell. you're doing a fuckload of stuff to it, these guys are going to put an autozone seat cover on it, a bag of candy under the seat, and call it pimped out while trying their hardest to do e-brake turns in the rain.

Great car if you know your shit, this sticky is for people who don't know their shit, why this wasn't put up for the summer i'll never know, but whatever.

>>5263663

the only thing that was removed was the drivetrain when i bought it. interior was there.

the drivetrain i put in it goes like this:

engine: 140k
trans: 150k
driveshaft: 100k
diff: 140k

again, not a single squeak.

1990's mustangs have low power, no torque, and get walked by honda civics.

get a honda civic, toyota corrola, toyota camry, toyota celica, acura integra

low tier: any GM made with a 3800 THAT ISN'T A PONTIAC. pontiacs are shit, the 3800 is a decent motor but the pontiac build quality is fucking terrible

>>5263788
>now we need a bus riders thread
I would like that, seriously.

Suzuki Impreza GTI

>>5263579
And
Mercedes 300D

>sage a sticky
>mod gives me a 3day ban


HAHHAHAHA oh wow. silly mods. tricks are for kids

>>5263835

And the 300e.
Honestly, anyone buying a family car/DD and not buying a mercedes w124 is just stupid. Bulletproof motors, awesome interiors, usually very cheaply priced, easily enough power for DD usage, plus, if you have any questions about em you can usually get an answer within 5 mins on the mercedes forum/w124 board. Also the peachparts forum has a tut on how to do EVERYTHING to them.

>>5263576
>this post

Sounds like moot heard our pleas.

Mazda RX-8, alright for a second car? I plan to learn manual with a 6-Speed Kia Sportage for about a year or two.

>>5264032
not that great for an any car truth be told.

does anyone has or know if someone has a SX4 Crossover MT AWD. also if the car is any good. i'm looking at it for a nice town and trip car.

>>5263739
This was my first car (2 years ago), wrapped it around a post on a country lane at 50mph, just about managed to limp home and told the insurance that "the engine broke, so I'm scrapping it". Fun times indeed.

>>5263534
They look horrible.

Mod, why u delete mine and others users perfectly respectable feed back posts? And yes, I will also reset my router.

hey fuck you asshole mod! wtf is your problem?
why would you delete my post about condensing down /o/ board into just a few threads

in short, fuck you mod

I need a gf friendly car, her 1995 Legacy wagon has got 240k on it and is getting in need of too many repairs.

Price - $7-12k
Things she wants: wagon (a must, has big dog and lots of stuff), would like AWD but isn't required, 25 or better combined MPG would be nice.

Any suggestions would be nice.

Suzuki SX4 any good? Another Subaru would work.

So, for someone who knows nothing about cars and looks for a cheap one(below 4k), is it better to go to a used cars dealer or a private owner?

Its pretty risky to buy from someone you don't know right? And dealers inspects their vehicles?

>>5264304
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=304328514&dealer_id=66516603&car_year=
1981&systime=&doors=&model=&search_lang=en&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&
keywordsrep=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=used&distance=0&min_price=&rdm
=1315603865926&drive=&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&keywords_display=&am
p;lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&showZipError=n&make2=&certified=&eng
ine=&dma=CHICAGO_C1&page_location=findacar::ispsearchform&body_code=0&isFlashPlugin=
true&transmission=&default_sort=priceASC&max_mileage=&color=&address=60606&s
ort_type=priceASC&max_price=&make=DELOREAN&seller_type=b&num_records=25&cardist=
763&standard=false

Your Girlfriend will despise if you don't do it.

>>5264333
if you're looking at buying from a private seller, get them to agree to let you take the car to a licensed machanic, and pay the garage mechanic to go over the car and look for issues. That's one way to avoid getting a car with existing issues the seller is unwilling to disclose. This is a good idea anyway, as at the very least, it gives you a second opinion for a small fee.

>>5264304
I'm not too sure I'd buy a Suzuki. The reports I've seen on-line seem to rate them as having extremely poor reliability.

>>5264340
Thanks! And it's even under what she was looking to pay.

If it was up to me, there's a 1971 Datsun 510 wagon with a KA24 in it for $4k, but it's not up to me.... I miss my Datsun.

>>5264348
from edmunds reviews, i see a great reliability. the timing belt is a chain! thats reliability for you

>watcarizgud sticky.

Oh my. Well I posted about the STi yesterday, there's a Twin Turbo Skyline 370GT SP Sedan for sale, that I want to drive. $66k

Kind of want.. But I don't want to spend more than $20k for a dd

Hi guys

I have $3,000 in cash and I'm gonna finance another $9,000, A lot of people have recommended your standard civics, mazda3's, and corollas, but I can't seem to find anything for under $12,000 that doesn't have a million miles on it.

For chrissakes, I found an accord with something like 150,000 miles on it, and they still wanted 10,000.

Can I not get a car for under 12,000 with relatively low mileage (under 50,000) that I can depend on? Is there someone else I need to be looking aside from the local dealerships?

>>5264491
first thing you need to do is never look at dealerships.
you're fucking stupid for that
second don't finance a car unless you are pretty stable in your life and done with all your school and shit. you're fucking stupid for that

stop looking for such a new car and it wouldnt be 10k for 150 miles.
unless its a dodge or a rotary you will be fine and fully dependable getting any car at around 100k miles.

>>5264491

Nope. Used car prices in the US will be beyond retarded for the foreseeable future. It's probably at the point that it's a better deal to buy new than recent used.

>>5264536
gtfo

What do ya'll think of the MG Midget / MGB? They're insanely cheap so I thought it might be fun to own one as a weekend runabout...

I'm considering buying a corrado vr6. The only problem is that they are difficult to find and over priced imo. Should I get a 5000 loan and get the car? or stick with my dodge neon which needs 1000$ in repairs in order to be insured in my present province?

>>5263576
I don't even need a truck, it's just nice to have a bed. Plus I hate begging for stuff.

What people need to realize is how much stuff you can actually fit in a small size pickup...

>>5263576
i approve of this post, but i do not posess a fitting reaction image to underline my statement.

therefore, im posting some s-chassis.

is this a steal and a half or what? Engine is from a 93 miata, 1.6

http://binghamton.craigslist.org/cto/2586661356.html

>>5264665
No, it's most certainly not a steal

>>5264340
>http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?ct=p&car_id=304328514&dealer_id=66516603&car_y
ear=1981&systime=&doors=&model=&search_lang=en&start_year=1981&keywordsfyc=&
amp;keywordsrep=&highlightFirstMakeModel=&search_type=used&distance=0&min_price=&
;rdm=1315603865926&drive=&marketZipError=false&advanced=y&fuel=&keywords_display
=&lastBeginningStartYear=1981&end_year=2012&showZipError=n&make2=&certified=
&engine=&dma=CHICAGO_C1&page_location=findacar::ispsearchform&body_code=0&isFlas
hPlugin=true&transmission=&default_sort=priceASC&max_mileage=&color=&address=606
06&sort_type=priceASC&max_price=&make=DELOREAN&seller_type=b&num_records=25&
cardist=763&standard=false
http://www.autotrader.com/fyc/vdp.jsp?car_id=304328514

lrn2shortenlinks

>>5264491

DO NOT go by asking price. Go by what the car is actually worth (A.K.A. what that car actually sells for whether it's dealers or private sales). Do some research on cars your interested in. Look it up on Edmunds and KBB.
DO NOT go by how much they say they put into the car or how much they paid for it. Go by it's value. It's like a stock. You shouldn't care what the price of the stock was when they first bought it. What matters is what it's worth now. Do your research and come back with your own conclusions.

Of course you found an Accord for that much because Accords, Civics, and Corolla's values are stupid high (because of their reputation). You want a cheap car that's not that old with few miles? Go buy a Cobalt (Protip: don't REALLY buy a Cobalt). FYI, you are looking for something with closer to 60-70k miles at that price.

Two door hatchback that isn't tiny, but is relatively boxy but has airbags.
Price-limit: 6K USD.

>>5263527
what would be a good muscle car to start with? I kinda wanna get a 70's trans am and fix it up? or is something better out there?

>>5264304

>would like AWD
>25 or better combined MPG would be nice.

Pick one.

>>5264973

my impreza get's about 27, dunno wtf you're on about

>wtf how is this wut car iz gud thread staying up so high?
>holy mother of god we got a legitimate sticky

for the first time..
THANK YOU MOD

To sum it up:
Honda Civic
Volvo 240
Mercedes 190e/300d/300e
BMW e30
Mazda Miata

Hey guys

Me and some friends have an idea for a sporting event at school/uni. Just want to buy some old piece of shit car that we can decorate up like a rival school and just smash the shit out of it for entertainment before a game.
What are the best places/best ways to get said type of car? I've been searching craigslist but can't seem to find any for around $200 or so. Really just need a body, tires, windows, and doesn't have too many dents.

2003+ Accords are acceptable too as long as you get the 4 cylinder with the manual transmission. 6cyl autos may be more popular, but less reliable because the V6 has a timing belt instead of a timing chain and the AT on 2003+ Accords is questionable at best. If you can find a newer Accord with a stickshift, jump on it, it will run forever. Too bad they're near impossible to find these days.

Get a ford windstar or contour. The most reliable cars ford ever made.

About to buy a new car

Got about 10k to spend.

Want decent mileage, have to drive 40 miles a day.

>suggestions?

>>5265334
honduhh civic

Hey!

I'm looking at a first car, a 2001 E39 wagon, 107k miles. It's also a 5-speed. I would have ~8k to spend on it if I do buy it. So, I ask you, iz dis kar gud?

Thanks in advance!

Also, pic related - the car.

Hi guys, >>5264491 here

I finally found something that looks ok, I'm just not sure if 75,000 is too high for a Mazda 3. Is this a decent car for under 12,000?

>>5265352
If you want a car you have to repair constantly, and have the money to do so, it's a great choice.

>>5265352

Forgot - it's $7k.

>>5264491

I was in the same predicament a few months ago.

Looked like crazy at used car lots and autotrader.com

Eventually found an 07 Nissan Maxima for $12,500.
Only 59k on the odometer as well.

It's not as cheap as a Civic or Corolla, but it also doesn't feel like a tin can either. Not as good on gas either, but it's a V6, so MPG will be average. Great, solid feeling car that's very reliable if you take care of it with regular maintenance.

One warning: Nissans are notorious for torque steer, and only newer ones (2010 and newer) have gotten rid of the issue. If you get a Nissan, expect to deal with that small problem. Otherwise, an overall good car.

>>5265370

Are the 3-series cars any more reliable than the 5-series?

>>5264719
Tell me why this is

How would I know if I'm getting ripped off when buying a car?

>>5265763
do your research before even going to look at the car
search around for what other people are selling them for, figure out what the car is worth. If someone wants more than that, it better be in really fuckin good shape

>but I want a sports/sporty car
>fuck off

Dare I ask why?

>Third world
EG/EK Civic, KE2x/KE3x/KE7x/AE92/AE101 Corolla, 7th gen (or older) Lancer, B13/B14 Nissan Sentra/Sunny, KP61 Toyota Starlet

>but I want a new/newish car
GD Honda Fit/Jazz/City, E120 Corolla, 8th gen Lancer, Toyota Vios, Toyota Echo/Yaris

>but I want a van
Toyota Liteace, Toyota Hiace, Mitsubishi L300, Mitsubishi L400, E24 Nissan Urvan

>but I want a truck
Toyota Hilux, Mitsubishi L200, D22 Nissan Frontier, D21 Nissan Navara/Hardbody truck

>but I want an SUV
Rav4, CR-V, Y60 Nissan Patrol, 80-series (or older) Land Cruiser, 2nd gen (or older) Mitsubishi Pajero

>but I want a sports/sporty car
used import from Japan

>but I'm poor
used import from Japan

>but I want something that isn't Japanese
W123 Mercedes diesel, Volkswagen Beetle, something shitty from Korea, something shitty from China

>>5265847
sorry about that, here's the fixed version ^

>>5265855
100 series is gud too, think of it as an 80, just with more interior space.

>>5265855
Hell, even the late model Pajs are good too, they may have 4 wheel independant suspension, but their factory rear diff lock overcomes that with ease.

Oh, and dat 200hp 3.2L TDi

Here is a general tip of used car buying:

Are you wanting to buy an older porches from years 1980-1990?

If so make sure they have not just been sitting around. Porches actually last LONGER if you drive them then if you were to garage them and not drive them.

any hatchs for cheap cheap in Northern California in the San Jouaqin County
Honda Accord 79-85 hatches mostly
Manual tranny

>>5265855
>but I wanna show off how rich I am in front of starving children
new/newish BMW/Mercedes/Audi/Jag/Rolls/Bentley/Ferrari/Lambo/Porsche, Hummer H2 and H3, Escalade, Navigator

What to check when buying a used older ('86, '88, '91) Civic?

checkin this out tomorrow

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/2589313357.html

FUCKYEA ESCORT ZX2

Loose 20k-30k budget

Looking to get something zippy, manual, (and possibly reliable?) to replace my Toyota Camry. It's perfect A to B, but I want moar stylez & oomph.

Mazda RX-8? Nissan 370Z? Lotus Elise?

anyone in Mass want to buy my 03 Accord Coupe 5spd. don't really want it anymore. asking 8500 obo

>>5266273
$500 shipped to CA

What first car for under 2k NZD comes with a pussy magnet, or how do I instal the pussy magnet?

I have a 1995 Toyota Tercel as a daily driver and a 2008 Mazdaspeed 3 sitting in the underground parking until I pay the loan off so I can properly afford to insure it again. So far the Tercel has been MUCH more reliable. Tercel is 5 speed and I got it with 205,000 kms in November of 2010, 228,000 kms on it now. The MS3 I bought new in October of 2007 and now has 131,000 kms. I parked it at the end of May in favour of the Tercel. Loving the Tercel fuel economy. $45 per tank instead of $70 and also more kms per tank.

If you wanna car that is reliable, decently cheap on gas even comparing to new cars, and super cheap and easy to fix yourself, there is no better than a 95+ Tercel. When I got it two shocks were blown. I bought a set of all 4 shocks on ebay and with shipping to Canada was only $190. I installed them myself with ease. 3 times I had one of my rear shocks blow out on my MS3 and just ONE of them WITH 20% off all parts I buy at my dealership was $141 with tax. The Tercel is so cheap it isn't even funny. You want it sporty too? Just buy the 4efte motor and transmission which are EVERYWHERE and get it swapped in. $2000 max all in even in Canadian dollars, and you instantly get a 135hp turbocharged motor. There is a guy in Australia who dyno'd 380 whp from the 4efte 1.3l turbo (obviously with extensive upgrades).

135 hp at the crank can do a lot more in a 1950 lb car than a 180 or so hp motor can do in a 2800+ lb modern car. Even with the stock 93 hp for teh lulz I raced with a guy with a 3rd gen GTi and he was convinced I had done something to the motor yet my car is completely stock. Why would I mod it? I only have my MS3 a bit modded.

>>5266215
Check for shifter slop
Check for odd noises, what causes them or at what speed do they start/get worse at
Master Cyclinder
Engine:Does it sound healthy?
Does it make a knocking sound?
Has it been motor swapped?
If so was it done properly?
Does the wiring look hacked up or original like?
Who are you buying the car from?
Old granny vs ricer teen will usually fit the bill as to how the car was cared for?
The 4th gen is pretty damn reliable IMHO since I had an Si as a first car for 3 years. Damn thing was so reliable that it took me home after two hit and runs both of where I wasn't at fault and the at fault party decided to run from the scene. I miss it but I guess it was time to move on.

>>5266392
wouldn't a 7afe be a better swap?
also to correct, 4efte, should be 4afe if Canadian models are the same

This thread is for:
1) wat car iz gud

>>one that runs reliable
like a Ford Fiesta


2) help finding a car

>>try kijiji.ca or craigslist.com

3) help selling a car

>>same as 2)

4) craigslist finds

BUY THIS CAR. YOULL BE THANKSFUL

http://toledo.craigslist.org/cto/2549878064.html

spending 40k canadian on a car.

SMART OR NOT?

thinking of audi or bmw, i dont like asian cars, european cars FTW
WHAT SHOULD I GET?

THANKS IN ADVANCE YOU PROS

>>5263527
I'm a 19 year old male in florida where insurance rates are inflated as fuck for financed cars. Fucking state farm did a quote for me for a 2007 Mazda 3...........747 A MONTH. I've almost given up on looking, commie bastards.

01 325 for $5000 USD
yes, no?
why not?
also it will be my first car

>>5266628

here you go you lazy faggot

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Porsche/911/CAMROSE/Alberta/12_11528606_/

>>5266633
>commie bastards.
the name state farm is a bit of a giveaway lololol

'tard question here :

- are the rear seats usable in the 4th / 5th / 6th gen Civic hatchbacks ?

>>5266490


What you talkin' 'bout? The 4efte is a motor that was produced only for the Starlet GT and it's predecessor, the Galanza. It was never produced for Canadian markets or even US. Those two cars were only in japan and a couple small Caribbean and Asian countries. It is the most common swap for the Tercel and Paseo because the motor and transmission are a direct bolt in. The only think you have to do is splice either 2 or 3 wires from the 4efte's harness to it's ecu depending on the generation of Tercel you are swapping it into. My 5th gen Tercel with the 5efe stock is supposed to be the easiest candidate for the 4efte swap.

>>5266490

Looked up on Wiki. 4efte and 4afe are for sure not the same motor, lol. Fail.

How are these with around 135k miles and a few major problems fixed with papers to back them up?

>>5267087
practically bulletproof, especially the 500

>>5267108
I have read that the AC box on these is almost a certain thing to go bad and they are around 4k to fix, if you take it to a Mercedes Rip Off specialist.

I like these too, but I think they may be a bit long in the tooth by now.

>>5266759
Do it as long as you can cover the repair costs for the vehicle.

>>5267087
>>5267108
>>5267112
>>5267125
but that MPG.

>>5266254

>>RX-8
>>zippy

Help me find a fucking solid 67-69 dart for cheap you bastards.

>>5267421
Yea, ok.

Would you like your dead grandmother raised up as well?

>>5267426

>>5267426
LOL his grandmas dead and rotting

>>5267421
Are those not "Hipster Mobiles"?

>>5267445
Uh.....what...?

Chuck a Kingswood HZ ute up ya cunt!

>>5267448
Yeah, the 71 Dart Swinger is a huge hipster car.

>>5267465
Uh since fucking when?

>>5267470
Dodge Darts, Ford Falcons. Volvo 240's, and Diesel Mercedes are in some places in the country popular with hipsters. Don't get to mad they like a lot of odd/interesting cars. Delorean for instants. I guess they are Ironic or something I don't know. I don't know any hipsters.

>>5267515

>dodge darts

why.jpg

>>5267515
Maybe the early darts.

>>5267465

gatdam hipstas.

>>5267087
I want a S320 so much. Cost for parts seems somewhat reasonable, but the the skills to put it in is what is pricey. Are these hard to work on?

>>5266611

hory shet so much want.


but dat ugly bodykit.

>>5267515

I'm a borderline hipster kid, and these are the cars my eyes are drawn to that I can actually afford.

>>5267421
Moff, you won't find a cheap Dart. They are highly sought after muscle cars. They were some of the lightest ones around, being A-bodies, and around 3000lbs when stripped down. Much lighter today, using tubular K-members, and aluminum heads and block with an Indy 340. The Dart is nearly as iconic as the 68 Charger. Good luck, but it's not going to happen unless you buy one of the post-71 models with the huge bumpers and ugly remodeling and low compression engines.

>>5267391
Since the RX-8 is out of the question I guess.. what about the other two? Can I a recommendation at least?

>>5267720
Go for the lotus for the uniqueness.

>>5267745
Yeah, you try finding a good condition 89 Legend coupe. Riced, beaten, or not for sale. They are few and far between when they are good and for sale.

>>5267798
Dunno about the availability outside of France, so you may be right, but here nice examples pop up once in a while. Most of the time they're not riced, and sold by grandpas who just can't drive anymore.

>grandpa driven & taken care of
>comfy
>elegant
>reliable
>nice engine

If I had enough space to park more cars I'd already have one.

I'm thinking about listing my 2003 Jeep Liberty Limited V6 4x4 in the craigslist barter section for fun to see what kind of offers I can get.

I'm looking to downsize to a smaller, more fun car. The Jeep is worth about $7-9k, since it's basically loaded and only 76k miles.

What type of cars can I expect to get in that range, either trades or after selling mine and going back to craigslist to buy?

Also: Have any of you guys had luck swapping vehicles in the craigslist barter section?

>>5267826
Sadly in the States old Acuras are usually Riced to pretty much un-usability, or get 70" rims put on them and then neglected until they die. Murica is full of shit bags.

If you're a UK-fag

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CUVmNCdf4tI

>>5268128
US here, but I watch Top gear religiously. I really wish they made the original Top Gear available.

>>5268147
Use torrents like a normal person

>>5268265
Well of course that's what I mean. Full seasons are very rare though. I have 89-93 episodes downloading now and that's about it. Id like all of the 80's and 90's episodes.

>20 Valve 4AGE with ITBs or 4AGZE
>Can thrash it and get 26mpg all day long
>Dat superior handling
>Dat clean look

Man I love these things, so fucking hard to find in good condition here

Alfa Romeo for 2.5k
dont do it
>its a scam
>;_;

>>5268822

72's are meh, but it looks really clean and it's an SS.

http://www.gumtree.com/p/cars-vans-motorbikes/bmw-525i-78k-m-sports-leather-seats-mot-tax-very-very-
fast-car/87320491

This car.
Good Find?

How are D2 A8s?

What do you guys think about used BMW 3 series, 1998 or so? If I find one that the owner's clearly taken care of, have a mechanic check it out for any issues, and take good care if it myself, would it hold up pretty well? I hear such mixed things about cost of ownership/reliability from people,

>>5269275
You practically answered your question. They all vary. Just find one in good shape, with a lot of papers and you will be fine. That pretty much goes for any car really.

looking for a gud first kar


So here goes.

1.) Chevelle

or

2.) Z

>>5269361
Those are not good first cars. Maybe they were in 1972, but not now

>>5269413

fuck your opinion I'm getting the Z.

>>5269439
Okay. You ruing that car in anyway and I will hunt you down and disembowel you

>>5269463

It's not like I'm gonna throw a fartcan on it or anything.

Hi /o/, /sp/ regular who knows nothing about cars here. Considering buying a 2001 Chrysler 300m with 116k miles on it for 4.5k, what say you?

funny. I'm actually looking for a fun weekender and I was wondering if I should have fun fixing-up an older Datsun Z, a mid-nineties ZX or just say screw all the fixing-up and get an '09 370Z and not die if I'm ever in an accident.

some details: I'm 32, one of my first cars was a '72 240z, rusted as shit, wouldn't start without the block heater [and a healthy shot of starting fluid straight into the carb] and I loved every minute of that piece of shit's existence in my life. I make a pretty good living [low 6-figures] but I have terrible credit [I'm rebuilding, but for a while to come no dealer's going to give me a $30K-ish car right now, unless I put $29K down. hehe] I have a wife [who really wants me to get the older Z and play mr.-fix-it with it.] and kids, but we have a family car for when I'm not hauling them around.

Which would be more rewarding? More fun?

Thoughts?

>>5269787

Since you have already owned an S30 Z you already know how much fun they are to own and you already know about the rust issues. Take your time and wait for a Z with a good chassis to turn up since its a lot cheaper to pay a little more for a good car upfront instead of a rusty chassis that needs a lot of repair.

I wouldn't want to have to rely on either of my Z's as a daily drivers, but since you already have a family car I'd say go for it. I don't like seeing the 370z compared to the s30Z - they are completely different to drive.

should I do this /o/ ?

http://seattle.craigslist.org/see/ctd/2590263248.html

>>5270044
>dem plastic rear seats

>>5270092
so?

>>5270044
that dealer also has a black one with only 37,000 miles

looks better in black too

>>5270100
they were literally designed to be uncomfortable

>>5270114
Does it say they have them? I don't see it saying that anywhere. I know plenty of people who bought ex cop cars and they had the normal seats reinstalled.

>>5270150
that one interior picture where you can see the divider, just a slight glimpse of them, call them up and ask if it comes with plastic or actual rear seats

>>5270154
I will do no such thing because 1) the other guy found the car first and 2) I'm in a happy relationship with my current car in Ohio.

But that was good advice.

Mercedes 300e or BMW 325i e30?

>>5270171
300E

2000 Chevy Malibu /w a 3100 SFI V6 RPO LG8 (stock i think). i bought it earlier this year with 150km on it. and it was involved in a minor crash passenger side front bumper and door is dented makes a pop noise when opening it but i drive so i dont give a fuck. also wiring is bad somewhere it randomly makes the blinker noise. a test method i seed on youtube: put it in drive hold the break and floor it. if it does not die its good. it passed that test several times was $1200 what does /o/ think?

ok Guys i need helping picking a luxury-ish car for my mom. BMW and merc are out cause she doesn't like them. Reliability is the key criteria here, reliability and a leather interior. and it has to be comfortable. limit of about 30k Canadian. Right now I'm pretty set on a 2008 volvo S60 w/ ~30000 km for ~20k. is this car good? any suggestions would be appreciated.

>>5270655
Acura TL. Beautiful and fast. And you can get one for lower miles for around 30k

>>5270772
>beautiful
>fast
>Acura TL
pick one.

>>5270655
S60 is fine.

>>5270044
To me that seems way to fucking expensive for a Crown Vic even if it has under 100k miles. Plus all the stupid cop shit still stuck on it is ridiculous. Look for a unmodified one, like a unmarked PI with none of the Cop shit screwed on it.

>>5270801
A third gen Acura TL type S, before they got the fucked up nose looks pretty damn good, and they are fast.

>>5270902
my mom doesnt give a single fuck about fast. really her only concerns are reliability 1st and luxury second

>>5270171
300e, just for the facts that its probably more reliable if it was maintained well and parts are cheaper compared to the BMW, The Merc doesn't look as dated as the e30 as well. Plus every one and there dead grandma has an e30 these days making them hur dur desirable and thus making them cost more than they should cost.

>>5270902
Thats cool, the non Type S looks great and I have been in an 05 model, besides the a lack of rear space ( im pretty tall) they are great, and comfy. I was just responding to Tryptophans in my opinion false claim that the TL is neither fast or good looking.

>>5270911
>>5270926
and its a fucking Honda, they do not break. Unless you do some stupid shit to it.

>>5263534
>ford mustang is the best choice

>the opinion of a BMW driver
not sure if troll

Don't want to make a separate thread so here goes.
The common troubles with a second gen (99') mazda miata 1.8?

I purchased and 06 Mazda 3 from a dealer yesterday. It was making a weird nose when I drove it, but it sounded like at worst a loose bearing in the water pump or something, so I bought it.

I took it to a mechanic today, and he says the engine's toast, and that the sound is a crankshaft bearing or something. Can't remember. Horrible engine noise is the jist of it.

Question is, now that I've made this horrible mistake, what are my options?

The dealer has a 72 hour exchange policy for anything new or used, but they have almost nothing else under 12,000, and certainly nothing that isn't dog shit.

If the engine is really totally trashed and there's no way to get out of this, how much would it cost to replace the engine?

WOW /O/ YOU LET ME DOWN THE ONLY CAR TO BUY IS THE VOLVO 240


REASONS ITS GOOD:


1. QUAD-TARBO ENGINE = 1250 HORSPOWER
2. HAS ADJUSTBALE BLOW-OFF VALVER WISH CAN GO LOUD OR qouiet
3. COOL TARBO, TRANSMISSION, EXHAUST, VALVE SOUNDS
4. 0-57 IN 1.3 SECOND
5. WEIGHS ONLY 700 POUNDS
6. FULL ALCANTARA/ DIAMOND STITCHED LEATHER AND SPECIAL CHROM'D CARBONE FIBBER
7. FULL BODY KIT PREINSTALLED INCLOOD WIDEBODY KIT AND 45' RIMZ AND LOW SIDE SKIRTS FROND END ETC
8. SUPER LOW AND SPORTY SUSPENSION
9. IS MOST POWERFUL
10. IT IS RACE CAR
11. BEATS FASTEST BUGATTI VEIRAWN


IT IS BEST CAR IN HUGE WORLD FOREVER

>>5271427
you forgot the price, retard.

Okay /o/.

Is it just me or is this deal too good to be true?

>>http://www.autoshopper.com/dsredi.asp?dealerid=0424<<

>>5271445
ONLY 5 DORRA

I'm looking into buying my first car as well, and this is my first time on this board. Howdy /o/.

I've always loved the Scion xB's and i've not heard much that is bad about them. I know they are fairly decent, and the automatics get 29mpg roughly. Is that good? I'm looking at one that's a 2006, has 96k miles on it, and is only $6.2k.

>>5271607
>>5271607
>first time on /o/
>get a trip immediately
stop that shit

I'm thinking about buying my very first car
I found a 2005 Nissan 350z with 84k miles on it for about 17k
Is this good?

Isn't the standard rule of thumb for a first car be that it isn't something relatively expensive as it has a very high chance of being totaled? I had the same thought back when I was 15 that" Oh I'm gonna be a huge faggot and race an evo 8 around." Reality was that I ended up with an 89 Si and made great use of it by learning to drive and gaining valuable racing experience from it.
>>5271745
You have no idea what a fuck ton of trouble you'll get into with that car with it being your first and assuming you're a new driver, see plenty of kids try to do tokyo drift shit with it only to have to it spin into a wall because of their lack of inexperience

need new car

So, I used to drive a 1986 jetta. I loved that car to death litterally. It died I could get a rebuild of the engine for about 2k, or just buy a new car. What would be a decent replacement? Or should I just buy another one? I do not want to spend more than about 2k. I was thinking of putting it as a down payment on a brand new mazda speed3, but I don't want to be a slave to my car (paying off the car) I kinda want to own it outright. Any way, thoughts would be great!

>>5271756
It won't be the first car I've ever driven and I don't plan on using it for "Tokyo Drift" shenanigans. I just always wanted a 350z because I thought they were sexy and affordable cars. Also I'm not some little high school/collegefag.

>>5271760
Cars of the 80's
Need a lot of loving because of their age but prove to be just as fun cars if not better to the newer cars. If it's made it this far, its probably a fighter.
Cars of the 90's
Many fall to shit ricers because of their autism or become overly neglected.
Car's of the 00's
Hurr Durr fucking computers drive for me cause I dunno how to pump brakes, I can't drive, idk how to get home from the store,

>>5271778
Agreed it is a sexy car especially dat engine sound. Sorry to group you in with the youngfags because I can't stand them little faggots anymore with their hurr and the durr.

>>5271791
Don't worry about it but there is a problem I do have with the car. It's a manual transmission and I don't know how to drive a stick. Any tips about that?

>>5271813

Learn to drive stick

hey /o/
need an opinion, buying my first stick shift car.
I saw this on CL and I feel it's too good to be true....but!


>Needs new clutch - it is shot.
I know I can't test drive or start without the clutch, so I should keep on looking for something else or risk it.
What you say /o/tto?
http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/cto/2590913674.html

>>5271909
Since it's a Saturn just move on. There are plenty more out there.

Finally sold my Stealth yesterday. Looking to buy an XJ now so I've got something good for the winter/maybe some off-roading.

Don't know a whole lot about Jeeps so I'm looking for advice. I want to spend no more than 3500 bucks.

Looking at this one tomorrow I think:
http://tinyurl.com/64rbdjr

Any XJ buying advice you have please

wat car iz gud for getting to my nearest ski resort?

or can I do that with my hyundai sonata with winter tires + chains?

I just moved to the pacific northwest from Texas so the only winter driving experience I have is with about 2 inches of snow and on one occasion a very thin layer of ice.

>>5270044

Nope. Never buy a used cop car, they run the engines like shit and by the time they sell them they're just bound to have problems left and right on you. Just stay the fuck away from those at all costs. I mean some cop cars go all day without once being turned off, they just leave them on forever and run the fuck out of them because, fuck nigga you a cop, this aint your car, why not.

>>5272483
troll
0/10

02 WRXs. What can /o/ tell me about them? I've found two in awesome shape, stock with 90-110k miles and full maintenance records. The glass transmission thing bothers me though. And in my price range ($7.5k in Tristate, about what I'd be paying for either WRX) the only thing that gets you is a LT1 Z28, 5th Gen Prelude, or a Miata/MR2 Spyder. I've been looking for stuff like Celica GTSs, SRT4s, E36 M3s, and SVT Focuses but they're all beat or non-existent.

>>5273244
It's only a glass transmission if you beat the shit out of it. If it bothers you that much replace it with one from an 07 (and upgrade the shitty turbo and ECU, while you're at it).

What do you guys think of Lincoln?
the new ones look classy as fuck.

I found a chevy K20 for $1500

its got a beat up front
rotted out bed
an after-market auto transmission wet with oil
burnt out longtube headers
500K+ miles
cracked left mirror

I dont have more than 2K to my name, so i guess its poorfag car buy?

Ok, its sad.

i have 2K max to spend on a good fuel mileage car / truck

because i dont want to ride the bus.

>>5273715

>500K miles

Jesus. Offer him like $400 for it max.

2002 nissan altima
165,000 kilmeters
3.5k

I really like the car, my dad owned a nissan and I fell in love with it.The first car I learned to drive stick shift.

So is it worth 3.5k?

So how come there hasn't been a former car dealer that's written some anonymous tell-all revealing what car dealers actually pay for cars?

Does anyone here know this? I've always been curious about the difference between wholesale and retail value of cars.

I kind of hate that you have to go to a dealer and haggle over a new car, and that no one really knows how much they cost. It should be like buying groceries or video games.

Are you for real?
this is the cancer killing /o/
nonbike fags are mad so making gay ass stickies

>>5273899
That's what the invoice price is. before MSRP.

Should I buy this y'all?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619&item=17069233
8391&viewitem=&category=6154#ht_499wt_1177

anyone know anything about starions, found one online for cheap that just needs some tlc, but never herd of them before

>>5274174
Neat car
Tremendously unreliable by way of being both shitty and complicated.
Heavy and Slow

still fun...

I would not buy one as anything but a toy but I enjoyed mine when it was broken.

How reliable are C230's?

There's one in my town 2002 5-speed w/ 90k.
Not sure the reliability on early 00's Mercedes, but I'm looking for a nice DD that can be fun to drive on the highway. I have a 100mi round trip school voyage M-TH.

Wat do, /o/?

>>5274256
"By 1999 the 722.6 tranny was sorted out pretty well. There are some Air Mass Meter issues that effect many models of MB, but not anything to get too worried about.

Many techs I know consider the W202 series 1996 and on to be the most reliable MB ever built, with the M111 equipped car especially so. The engine is very well made, has no head gasket issues, and after 1995 the wiring harness issues that plagued all 1993-1993 MB's were also sorted out.

Also, the post 1996 cars have the variable pressure AC system, which is also proving to be very reliable and robust.

Be careful of overfilling the engine oil, as the main crank seals can easily be wrecked by doing so. Make sure your PPI includes a close inspection under the car.

Also, the W202's that live where roads are bad can go through lower front ball joints.

There is mixed feelings on the Eaton M62 supercharger mounted on the M111 Kompressor cars. Eaton supes have long been built as sealed non-rebuilable units with a typical service life of 100-125K miles. While this is suitable to GM products, most MB's are still valuable and excellent cars at that mileage. However, the verdict is still out on this, and I understand M62 pricing has come down lots since it is being used in many applications.

My 1998 C230 is the best car ever to reside in our garage, and I'm going to drive 'er till she drops."

A little google helps. Not so sure if you saw this already, though.

http://mbworld.org/forums/c-class-w202/53059-c230-reliability.html

>>5274174
Jeremy Clarkson likes them.

help me out here guys for my first car I was looking at either an acura, or honda civic, or possibly a saturn, my dad drives a 98 saturn and the thing is like a tank it wont die, I'm in college and can't afford more than 2g on a car, I heard the acura's parts are expensive.

>>5274559
So they're probably very good or very bad.

>>5273803

if 2.5 stay far away from it. Get a v6 its a sleeper

>>5274219

stay away from stratuses, or any dodge from that
era

I want something reliable, something that handles well, and gets good MPG. It's my DD, but most of my routes involve winding roads. I've got £2000 to spend give or take. I don't really give a shit about power, I just want something fun to drive. What handles better, stock, a Civic EK or a Corolla AE110? I'm leaning towards the Corolla, due to the 6 speed G6 and lack of ricer tax.

I want something reliable, something that handles well, and gets good MPG. It's my DD, but most of my routes involve winding roads. I've got £2000 to spend give or take. I don't really give a shit about power, I just want something fun to drive. What handles better, stock, a Civic EK or a Corolla AE110? I'm leaning towards the Corolla, due to the 6 speed G6 and lack of ricer tax.

>>5265855
Sure is grorious Japenese in here.

>>5274599
Acura. Its not boring like a Honda but reliable as one. Your dads Saturn is a fucking anomaly, He most take REALLY good care of it. A lot of Saturns break in some major way. They are shit. (and super ugly, ew.)

>>5274599
Acura parts are not expensive, and probably wont be needed unless the car was neglected. Where did you hear that bull shit?

anyone can recommend reliable cheap maintenance car for around 2000 euros?

>>5267421
http://greenville.craigslist.org/ctd/2542745271.html

Decision time /o/

07 VW Rabbit 2.5 Automatic (71k miles) $12k
07 VW Jetta 2.5 Manual (61k miles) $10k
07 VW Jetta 2.5 Automatic (62k miles) $13k

>>5274934
assuming all else is equal, number 2 (two)

>>5274824
Mazda MX5

>>5274691
>>5274691
those Corolla's are boring as fuck to drive.

they tick the reliability box hard, but not the fun to drive one, at all

Ok guys should my mom get this volvo S60:

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Volvo/S60/MONTR%C3%89AL/Quebec/5_11628331_20060608064539908/

or this one:

http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Volvo/S60/MONTR%C3%89AL/Quebec/5_11319374_2004429105629706/

I would personally get the R, cause its faster and everything but I have heard a lot of good things about the inline 5s reliability and reliability is key here. much more important factor than performance.

>>5274794
ya the car was bought only a couple of years old by my uncle and he took good care of it and hardly drove it, then my dad bought it and he drives it carefully but doesn't really maintain it. He does an oil change maybe once a year and he drives it ALOT but I guess his grandma driving makes the car last, his dash even caught fire once and smoke was billowing out of the vents and the car runs fine. I'm gonna go for my licence in it, only thing is his handbrake needs to be fixed and theres some kinda link gone in the back. Check engine light is on all the time but I think its where he removed the catalytic converter LULZ

>>5274799
my gf's dad told me that acura parts were expensive ( I live in canada if that makes any dif ?)

are VW jetta's any reliable?

>>5275260
also, stupid question I KNOW, but would I be able to get a decent used acura, civic, or anything else halfway reliable as a DD for under 2G?(cdn) auto as well cuz I can't drive stick yet

>>5275270
Don't be afraid of stickshift man, if there's a car you like but it happens to be a stick ask the dealer/owner to teach you how to drive it, it's half an hour in a parking lot tops, and since he's a salesman he will be more than willing to teach you if it means selling a car.

>>5275255
Well hes wrong. He probably thinks that because they are "luxury" cars. Research them, go to forums. You will see.

>>5275270
you say "yet", but don't want a manual car? You wont learn until you use one.

>>5275537
Yeah it's really just like learning to ride a bike for the first time, you fuck around in your driveway or a parking lot for a little bit then you hit the streets.

http://detroit.craigslist.org/wyn/ctd/2586403899.html

>>5275622
I hate how much better this look compared to that generations A6. I would really not want an RS6. Just a nicer looking A6.