The people who hate him do not want improved equality. They don't want change at all, they want politics to stagnate.

How about setting us on the same path Greece just went down?

He's not defending our borders and is still pampering Mexico

He renewed the patriot act

He's negociating the ACTA agreement to undermine the internet behind the public's backs

We're still losing more jobs than gaining and he's not fixing it

He still appointed known communists to his cabinet

He appointed a racist hispanic to the superme court

His college loan reform is still bullshit. Unless you're a minority who goes for free because of skin color, you'll still spend half of your life in debt because you dared to want an education to become a useful productive member of society.

The patriot act is the only thing there I don't care for.

national romneycare is NOT cool bro.

>>We're still losing more jobs than gaining and he's not fixing it

april 2010 was the biggest job gain in 4 years.

>>914642
That only proves that people search idiotic things on google. Why the hell would you need to google "Obama is an idiot"? Looking for some scientific data on his intelligence?

>>914654
unemployment went up bro.

>>914505

FUN FACT!

Obama's tax increase on tobacco effects the poor much more than it effects the middle-class, let alone even the upper-class.

Yeah, that promise not to raise taxes for those making under $120k a year? He broke that within his first six months in office.

>>914731

Except that prices for tobacco products have dropped back down to pre-tax levels.

Now they're all just of a lower quality.

I think the "Obama is literally Hitler" thing deserves more explication.

If I had some spare time I'd write a story about Hitler escaping to Argentina at the end of WW2 and having his brain preserved in a jar as he was about to die, and eventually Israeli Nazi-hunters finding him and taking the ultimate revenge on him by implanting his brain into the body of a young half-black Muslim extremist they had captured.

But then, with the help of other historical Nazis transplanted into new bodies, Hitler/Obama escapes and makes his way to America to attempt to eventually become its dictator and take his revenge on Israel.

Likewise Sarah Palin is literally Josef Stalin.

>>914731
Prove it.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2009-03-31-cigarettetax_N.htm

full of shit anyone who says tobacco products have gone done, largest price increase in history, cigs are now fuckign 6 dollars in my state, insane

>>914676
Because the people who made unemployment numbers rise were unemployed people sitting on their laurels and now they know there's a chance of getting a job.

>implying I give a shit about a useless waste of of money such as cigarettes.

>>914981
nope. the U5 went up too. what does that mean? somehow, more people are now unemployed.

the recent BLS numbers are pretty fishy, and don't add up.

>>914731
Only faggots smoke anyways.

However, he added sneaky taxes on shit all over the place. On feb first a tax on financial transactions came into effect. He added a 10% tax on tanning. That's a 10% increase on an industry comprised entirely of small businesses. Fucking stupid.

Increase in payroll tax.
Increase in capital gains tax.

MASSIVE increase in spending, putting future generations in massive debt as well as putting us on the same path as europe as far as going bankrupt goes.

BAILS OUT EUROPE. $54,000,000,000.00 not even including a line of credit on currency swaps from the Fed.

>>914642
>obama is literally hitler

>>914974
I don't really care about taxing cigarettes. You are a fucking idiot if you smoke cigarettes, period. It's gross, smells like shit, stains your teeth, pretty much makes you a disgusting person.

But why apply huge taxes to niche items like cigars? That only hurts smoke shops.

Why tax tanning? "Go get some sun." You can't control how much sun you get, leading to sunburn which causes melanoma and other forms of skin cancer. With indoor tanning, not only can you control exactly how much sun you get, the plexiglass filters out many harmful rays.

You don't need to be snooki tanned, but semi-regular tanning reduces acne and helps prevent accidental sunburn. I got a fucking terrible beater burn just driving home last weekend (convertible). Skin peeling now.

>>915081
because this is america, and we have the freedom (mostly) to fuck up our bodies and pay for the consequences. fuck off.

>reform healthcare

lollololollololololol

>>914981
>Because the people who made unemployment numbers rise were unemployed people sitting on their laurels and now they know there's a chance of getting a job.
That would work if underemployment went down.

why would i give him a pass when i didn't for bush or clinton?

>>914598
>We're still losing more jobs than gaining and he's not fixing it
i thought you faggots wanted him to stay out of the economy?

>>914676

So there were more jobs available but more people willing to be Welfare Queens? That doesn't sound like something Obama should be faulted for. Maybe just the knuckle-draggers who bitch about the government in between picking up their checks should be to blame.

Obama is the best president since FDR.

Deal with it, neocons.

Obama ordered the extrajudicial killing of an American citizen.

That puts him on the same legal and moral level as a common murderer as far I'm concerned.

>>915362

Your comparison for Obama's greatness is an American socialist dictator? How remarkably appropriate.

ps, not a neocon.

>they think Obama actually gave them socialized healthcare

>>915480
Who?

>>915491
>say you're not a neocon
>automatically know that you are one now you've said that

I don't hate Barack. I hate his policies. He's a corporatist whore.

>>915362
FDR was a crappy president

>>914523
do ho ho!

>>915522

Some Muslim cleric named al-Awlaki. Sure, he's PROBABLY guilty of something, but if you don't give him due process before you blow him up with a Predator missile, it's still just murder.

I like how leftists can't seem to tell the difference between libertarians criticizing Obama and neocons criticizing Obama. It's like, Hayek and Hitler both criticized the left but it doesn't mean they were on the same team.

Also, are there any actual neocons on the Internet? I don't think I've seen any that haven't just been trolling.

I only recently read about President Jackson. What the fuck America? Why is his name not celebrated in the same breath as Lincoln and Washington? the man was a fuckin alpha, the opposite to your average American citizne today.

>>914974

>Complaining about $6 Cigarettes.

HAHA OH WOW.

>>914974
External effects my dear.

>>915081
You say that then you want me to pay for your healthcare when you get lung cancer.

Fuck you, god damn disgusting ugly piece of shit. Fucking die.

>>915802

Smacks down central-jew banks?

Kill aboriginals?

LOVE IT!

>>915802

He was pretty controversial at the time...the Whigs were started basically solely to oppose him and there was the whole Trail of Tears thing.

We only idolize the presidents who retaliate strongly against their critics and refuse to allow dissenting voices to have an impact on history. Think about it: Washington, Lincoln, FDR - Washington and Lincoln both personally led armies against their fellow Americans. FDR spent huge amounts of taxpayer money turning himself into a demigod in the public's perception.

Well this thread sure is useful.

I love how most of America can come up with completely opposing stories about the same thing and both sides have sources to back it up.

OBAMA IS TIME PARADOX

Seriosly, how the fuck has no one mentioned this yet?

>Seriously, why the hate?

NIGGER

>>915928
wouldn't be a problem if the government would just stay the fuck out of healthcare

>Barack Obama has established more tax cuts on the middle class than any other president ever

Good job Barack.

>He told the people he would reform healthcare. And he did

Only made things worse. Obamacare will end up a failure just like Romneycare was in Massachusetss. Shame on you Obama.

>He told us he would change college loans. And he did

Not sure if good or bad...

> Finally, he said he would put an end to this seemingly neverending war, and he did that too

LOL WAT.

>>914505

>Arrogant Hipster Liberal who thinks only his view and only his favourite politician can bring good change & progress. Business as usual.

you know bush changed a lot of things too.

not all change is good.

Silly liberals. "Tax cigarettes, they're icky!"

Who are you to give a fuck? "If I don't like it, it should either be banned or taxed."

Personal responsibility is a key characteristic of Americans.

Also, who smokes the most? Poor people. Who supports Democrats the most? Poor people, because they get free shit. You don't give a shit about poor people any more than Republicans.

>>914490
and , of course, you believe in the easter bunny ,too.
why the hate ? you are far from even being clueless.
enjoy your complete childish idocy.

>>915928

You want people to pay for Healthcare too. But you want people to pay for it through taxation.

The reason US's Healthcare is broken is because of the enourmous government-created Corporatism in this industry ( no interstate competition, CON laws, AMA's monopoly on medical-licensing, etc) that gave insurance companies a damn oligopoly. Remove this crap, and US's Healthcare will be chaper AND better than Universal Healthcare.

>>916092
>Smoke 20 years
>Get lung cancer
>Wonder why they're charged so much because they're the giant risk in the risk pool

Sure go ahead and smoke don't complain when you're charged 5 times that of a normal person.

>>916084

Things Bush caused:

Gigantic government expansions, gigantic increase in spending, increased spending in social programs, NEW social programs, started meddling with private charities...

If it wasn't for the tax cuts, the war & the patriot act, Bush would have been a Liberal.

>>915081

>Legalize weed!
>Ban ciggaretes!

Liberal logic doesn't make much sense, does it?

>>916092
Tax Herpes medication just like cigarettes. The left would finally pay their fair share of taxes!
Am I right people?

>>916152
>Implying any government administration since FDR hasn't cause government expansion.

>>916152
>If it wasn't for the tax cuts, the war & the patriot act, Bush would have been a Liberal.

and obama is continuing 2 of the 3!

>>916160

Cigarettes are actually bad for you though.

Weed isn't.

>>916160
>implying what you're implying is true

>>916190
>Implied implication is implied

>>916180

I too am in favour of legalizing weed and know it isn't bad (or at least not NEARLY as bas as alcohol and ciggaretes) and isn't a "hurr gateway drug", but, GODDAMNIT Liberals, you guys claim to defend social freedom but lots of you ( notice the "lots", not "all") always spouts this "ban cigarettes! Tax high unhealthy food!" bullshit. Government isn't the one who should tell people what they should or shouldn't do, and government shouldn't force people into what you Liberals arbitrarialy think it's the best.

Damn double standards.

You got your tax source from a website called barakobama.com. I need say no more.

>>916233

As a liberal who smokes cigarettes and doesn't mind the taxes on them I'm getting a kick out of these replies.

>>916264

You are a reasonable Liberal whitout double standards. Rare thing indeed.

>>916244
It's cited.