Ask a Liberal anything.
If I have a square with side length of 1, what is the exact diameter of a circle with the same area?
>>90883About tree-fiddy
Tell the truth: Young Liberals are stealth Hitler Youth aren't they?
>>90881Why does Australia suck so much balls? You can't look at porn on the net, small breast porn is illegal, depictions of naked women in fucking ART is illegal, you can't play videogames, how have you let your nation go so far?
>>90885Not in general, no. There are many different factions of the Young Liberals, all relegated around individual branches, but nothing like Hitler Youth as a whole. I'd argue that the Alcoholics Anonymous would embody the Young Liberals as a nation-wide group better.
Why do you think it's my responsibility to care about niggers on welfare? And why do you think it's right for the government to rob my money and give it to said nigglers?
>>90888Hi, thank you for you question about Australia's ridiculous censorship in recent times. The reason for all this happening is that Labor is in power both nationally and in every single state. A Liberal government in no way would support such statist measures. We believe strongly in individual freedom and not socialism-lite like Labor.I remember seeing a reaction image a while back which made me smile. "John Howard - won't touch your internet because he doesn't know what the fuck it is."
>>90891I think I'd prefer the Hitler youth over guys who went through a 12 step program.
>>90896Wait, hold up, in Britain Labor is liberal, are they different in Australia?
>>90894We do not believe in welfare. That would be Labor, and their idiotic stimulus package which was the most brute force way to counteract the impending recession. The Liberals believe in low taxes and small government. Such a government would not give money for nothing to lazy bums but would rather encourage them to actually work for it in a glorious free marketplace.
>>90900Well spectrum-wise Labor in Australia is centre-left and Liberal is centre-right. Sorry for the confusion. Ideologically-wise the Australian Liberals have two halves, the Conservatives and the Libertarians (Classic Liberal).
Do you like the idea of eliminating the IRS, fed, and 16th amendment? And do you think it should be a bigger priority of the average person?
>>90907Not an American so cannot comment. Sorry.
>>90894numbnuts American detectedThis is British Parliamentary System, Liberal = conservative party
Why don't you have a civil war like all respectable countries?
>>90896Why does your party not seem to be able to grapple with the fact that Carbon Dioxide is a greenhouse gas?
>>90914I think you've got that backwards, sir.
>>90919We do grapple with the fact that climate change is a potentially serious threat, however we don't want to tax everybody to oblivion when the threat is neither absolutely urgent, totally proven, and Australian impact towards the global problem minimal. We do believe in, however, gradually greening our industries in a way which does not hurt the economy the way that Labor's ETS would.
>>90911Ohhhh. Well I didn't actually notice the ops picture, but I would have assumed the same otherwise.
What do you think of the LDP?
do you believe in holding a referendum and changing the constitution so we have a bill of rights. Is it even a good idea in the first place?
>>90914we had a pathetic little clash that the police ended p winninghttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eureka_Stockade
>>90935We're still internally debating that. Mind putting forward your own opinion?
>>90925I'm sorry, but the evidence for Global warming is greater than the evidence for the theory of gravity. You would know this if you spent more time reading scientific journals and not listening to paranoid conspiracy theorists on their internet blogs spouting pig ignorant bullshit. But let me get this straightYou are against taxing Australians to pay for a reduction in emissions.So what does your party do? propose a tax on Australians to reduce emissions. Labor's ETS is not a tax, and any cost to consumers is offset by compensation. The coalitions plan either has to be paid for by A) Increasing taxes on consumersB) Cutting spending i nthe budgetC) borrowing and increasing Australia's national debt.Oh, and how do you feel about having the agrarian socialist, Barnyard Joyce, as your shadow finance minister?
>>90925>We do grapple with the fact that climate change is a potentially serious threat, however we don't want to tax everybody to obliviontax the polluters>hen the threat is neither absolutely urgent,it is>totally proven,it is>and Australian impact towards the global problem minimal.Oh okay everybody else should do something and not us.>We do believe in, however, gradually greening our industries in a way which does not hurt the economy the way that Labor's ETS would.Clean Coal is a joke, and you don't appear to have gotten the punch line.
Ausfag liberal I assume. 1. Any difference between you guys and US liberals.2. Which party is going to fuck up the internet and video games the least?
>>90936fuck the po-lice
>>90896 A Liberal government in no way would support such statist measures.AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!*breathe*AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
>>90956Exactly, the filter has the avid support of the Coalition and it's current pack of Big government conservatives (despite their professed beliefs for "small government", whatever that means). They are glad Labor is doing it so they don't end up having to.
>>90934I hate gays, drugs and pacifists
I'm not much keen on the ETS, its largely a means for polluters to look like they're doing something while actually not - as well as a new financial market for banks and investment firms to fiddle with and that worked so well with subprime mortgages didn't it?Much simpler and easier would be a direct tax on carbon emissions. It only takes a few big countries to do it and everyone else will follow, any hold outs can have tariffs thrown on them and their businesses will quickly lobby their government to change their tune.Also, phase out coal by 2030.
>>90940the main reason i would like to see a bill of rights is to have the same fourth amendment as the USA, 'Protection from unreasonable search and seizure'. I haven't read to deeply into other amendments which could go onto a bill of rights though
>>90949Liberal in the British parliamentary system refers to their economic policies
YOU FAT FUCK LIBERAL FAGGOT!!! ANSWER ME!!! WHAT DO YOU THINK OF LDP YOU FAKE FUCKING LIBERAL~!!????also what is your stance on gun control?
>>90967an equivalent to their 1st amendment would top priority
>>90964I agree, a Carbon Tax would be much better, but either a Carbon tax or an ETS are a million times better than the Coalition's current non plan.
Are you the kind of market liberal or the tree hugging kind of liberal?
>>90969Businessmans Party, just like the Americans Libertarian Party
>>90979get fucked fake liberal
>>90977Liberal in the British Parliamentary system means market kind
>>90975oh yes how could i forget about that. We DEFINITELY need this one
>>90977Liberal party in Australia is "Market Liberal", but their ranks are overun with arch conservatives who really aren't that committed to the free market at all, their current leader is an economic illiterate and a big government theological and socially conservative socialist. The Labor party is more pro market than the Liberal party these days.
>>90944So basically you're saying the tax is inevitable because global warming is real? To be honest, the Liberals would rather side with the skeptics than introduce a tax, but unfortunately thanks to the fucking media scare and hippies everywhere the public is pressuring governments and would-be-governments into a tax.Also Barnaby Joyce is a National, I know that we are in coalition with them, but my personal loyalties lie with the Liberals and not our agrarian friends.
>>90949>1. Any difference between you guys and US liberals.We're learning towards the right (this is a good thing).>2. Which party is going to fuck up the internet and video games the least?Us. We believe in freedom above all else.
>>90990yeah, Labor has given up their Union and Socialist politicsso like the Americans its a Rightwing Party and an Extreme Rightwing Party
>>90994yea and then you guys gave us the biggest nannystate gun controls since ever. fucking liar.
>>90985>>90990Yeah, it's the same here. I'm just confused by what seems to be the american notion of liberal. We have a liberal party in the government currently, but they are more of a corporate party right now.
For 30 years Liberals fucked public transportation in Victoria & Melbourne.Now Labor is giving it some deep dicking.
>>90969Ah, the LDP is that fully libertarian party, is it not? They aren't too bad, but I feel a reason why the Liberals are great is because internally the Conservatives and Libertarians keep each other in check.My personal stance on guns is that they should remain restricted as they are because Australia is an extremely safe country, and there's not really much of a victory for rights in regards to self-defense if people are allowed to own guns for that reason. If you're using them for hunting just get a permit like you do now.
>>90999tell that to all the dead indians :(
>>91003I think you mean Aboriginals
>>90992You do realize that if even the mildest predictions of climate change come into fruition (which they already are) then it's going to cost a lot more than a tax or other action on reducing Co2 emissions ever would. Perhaps it's time you paid a visit to NASA's website http://climate.nasa.gov/You go on about media scare and hippies but it's you being conned into a lie about global conspiracies and scary government takeovers etc etc. Your party has become ethically bankrupt if you think that Australia does not have to do it's own part to reduce Co2 emissions as part of a global solution.
>>91009Get fucked you hippy bastard. A lot of this climate change data is highly suspicious because of the inherent research bias (it is far better career move to report a finding on something occurring rather than something NOT occurring). But I do agree that a lot of the skeptics arguments are also bullshit.My persona view is caution on both sides. Treat climate change as inevitable, but don't go insane trying to go green.
>>91005them too!
>>91017The problem is that you can't afford to be wrong mate. It is currently estimated at a 90% probability by the IPCC (still more credible than you probably think) that the observed global warming is anthropogenic. If it was only a 50% chance then the consequences would still demand drastic action to reduce Co2 emissions.To do nothing will cost this country (not to mention the world) a great deal more than an extra 100 dollars on your annual electricity bill ever would. Unless you have a better explanation for the observed warming of course.
>>91038Just like the 70s ice age scare and 90s Y2K? Ok buddy!
>>91060You have been sucked into believing more lies. There was never a consensus about global cooling in the 70s, in fact, more scientists predicted global warming than global cooling. The Y2K was a very real problem and the reason why computers around the world did not go haywire was because people spent the better part of a decade working out ways to fix it. That something did not take place due to action taken to remedy it does not mean there was no threat in the first place.
>>91071Yeah ok, don't let the Lenin statue hit on you the way out.
>>90881what the hell are you doing on 4chan...? unless you're a proper J.S. Mill liberal and not a fucktard conservative in liberal clothing
>>91073Like all sceptics when confronted with questions and facts you can't explain you result to insults and name calling, accusing others of being lefties or communists or whatnot. I suppose the right wing governments in Germany, France, Denmark, The UK conservatives, Italy, Canada, etc etc, who accept the reality of global warming and the need to act on it, are also part of a gigantic global communsit conspiracy to impose world government, rabble rabble rabble blah blah blah. Perhaps you would like to debate facts about global warming, but if you cant do that without result to childish name calling and unimaginative insults then you have no place in the debate to begin with.
>>91082>Germany, France, Denmark, The UK conservatives, Italy, Canada,Hey if you like it so much over there in those countries why don't you get the fuck out of Australia?
>>91087Weak retort from a weak mind. But now you're just trolling anyway.
quick aside: type "australia is a" into google. Look at first suggestion in drop down menu. I lived there for a year -- it's very true
>>91104Not fucking racist enough, obviously. If Australia was a racist country there wouldn't be any gooks or shitskins in Australia whining that 'Australia is a racist country'.
>>91110And here you have, in all it's glory, the prevailing attitude of the Australian Liberal party and it's supporters.Liberal party? Not in any sense of the word Liberal whatsoever.
>>91112I don't support the fucking libs. They're fucking sellout traitors you dumb cunt. Given what I said in my last post, why the fuck do you think I would support a party that panders to the jews and other non whites and allows non white immigration. I support the NSAWP, or at least I would if we had one.
>>91123Typical aussie attitude: racist. NZ goes too far the other way. America strikes a healthy medium.
>>91128Sweeping generalization much?
What is your stance on gay marriage and legalization of marijuana?
>>91134OP here. Gay marriage undermines the sanctity of marriage and marijuana should remain illegal in all aspects. I strongly hope an Abbott led government will not just prevent Gay marriage from becoming reality, but will homosexuals back out of our public institutions and back into the closet where they should remain.
>>91146Yeah, you can die out now. Rudd is going to win again, you're like the Republican Party.Abbott = PalinThis is not to be disuputed.
>>91157Abbott = Howard reborn actually. Underestimate him at your peril. (not OP)
>>91128Fuck yeah!
what is your stance on polygamy?
Why do Australians hate brown people?
>>91179Because they're filthy and they stink. (not op)
>>91183I don't know about abbos, but asians integrate pretty well if you give them a chance. hard working bunch.
Why do you guys advocate a Theocracy as a valid form of govenment for Australia? Can Barnaby Joyce actually put two words together intelligently, or is he a stupid as he acts in front of a camera?Does Bill Heffernan actually have a licence to say whatever everyone else in the party thinks, but is not allowed to say?
Why should I end up paying for you to give money to companies to think about reducing greenhouse gasses? Does big businesses cock really taste that good?
>>91202Taiwanese man here. I am good with neighbors. I share beer with bogan neighbors. I try share sushi. Bad idea. Stick to bear. Bogans are now the brogans.
>>91262You said it dude. White trash are the niggers in Australia now.
Would your leader consider creating another 'Australians for Honest Politics trust' to put more political opponents in jail? Do you and other Liberal Party members realize he created Australia's first political prisoner?
>>91262right on, my man. all i gotta say is that it would suck to be non-white and live in australia. they relegate your ass to campsie and shit. sucks to be you. Oz sucks.
Why does government recognize marriage in the first place?
OP get the fuck in here and answer questions.
Yeah OP! If a taipan bit ur mum on the arse, would u suck out the poison?
Fuck you OP ignoring the big questions.
for any future reference:- Liberal in Australia is similar to the republican/libertarian party in USA- Labor is similar to the Democrat party in USA
>>91462No, they are all different. I think you are basing it off the left/right spectrum thingy, which doesn't work.
