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    258 KB welp. Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:10 No.774311  
    Ariz. law could drive day laborers out
    Some illegal immigrants say they plan to leave state

    By AMANDA LEE MYERS
    updated 9:09 p.m. ET April 28, 2010

    PHOENIX - Many of the cars that once stopped in the Home Depot parking lot to pick up day laborers to hang drywall or do landscaping now just drive on by.

    Arizona's sweeping immigration bill allows police to arrest illegal immigrant day laborers seeking work on the street or anyone trying to hire them. It won't take effect until summer but it is already having an effect on the state's underground economy.

    "Nobody wants to pick us up," Julio Loyola Diaz says in Spanish as he and dozens of other men wait under the shade of palo verde trees and lean against a low brick wall outside the east Phoenix home improvement store.
    Story continues below ↓advertisement | your ad here

    Many day laborers like Diaz say they will leave Arizona because of the law, which also makes it a crime to be in the U.S. illegally and directs police to question people about their immigration status if there is reason to suspect they are illegal immigrants.

    Supporters of the law hope it creates jobs for thousands of Americans.

    "We want to drive day labor away," says Republican Rep. John Kavanagh, one of the law's sponsors.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:12 No.774332
    >>774311

    Wow well there it is evidence that this bill works
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:13 No.774334
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    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:13 No.774338
    So I am an american citizen with bad allergies and a deep love for white women. I am Puerto Rican. to Arizona to do menial labor? Because I alway wanted job security even though, try as hard as I might, I couldn't do well in the NY school system.

    Should I go to Arizona and do menial labor? I really really like working outside. I don't speak spanish.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:16 No.774363
    Source? i would like to read the whole thing.

    This is a great thing.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:16 No.774364
    Here's the real question: Who will do the jobs that these day laborers used to do?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:17 No.774370
    >>774363
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36836884/ns/us_news-life/
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:18 No.774379
    >>774364
    legal citizens

    you act as if mexicans are hard/good workers compared to white southerners.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:18 No.774383
    >>774379
    >you act as if mexicans are hard/good workers compared to white southerners.

    L O FUCKING L
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:18 No.774386
    >>774379
    Wrong answer, most Americans would not do these jobs.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:19 No.774397
    >implying day-laborers pay taxes in the first place.
    >implying that those who hire on a day-by-day basis don't pay them under-the-table.

    And nothing of value was lost.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:20 No.774400
    >>774386
    are you kidding? i would. im thinking about moving to south dakota or something to get a farm job. no jobs here in new england. none. really.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:20 No.774404
    >>774386
    >Implying someone who's been out of work for months wouldn't be more willing to do all sorts of jobs by that point
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:20 No.774405
    >>774364

    Rednecks?I'm out of a job atm and i would love just a day of work.I know a shit ton of 20 somethings that would love some temp work.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:20 No.774407
    >>774364
    the legal ones
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:20 No.774409
    >>774386

    How the fuck can you even say that with our unemployment at 9%+
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:20 No.774410
    >>774364
    >>774386
    I WILL!
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:21 No.774417
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    >Some illegal immigrants say they plan to leave state
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:21 No.774418
    This is a story of my county

    >pass a law banning asking for work in home depot parking lots
    >mexicans move to the street and face away from the road to pretend they are just hanging out

    trust me, they will adapt.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:22 No.774429
    >>774418
    you guys seriously need to just ban home depo- OH I SEE WHAT YOU DID THERE

    yeah, they'll adapt, by moving to california
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:22 No.774432
    lol
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:23 No.774436
    >>774383
    You do know that mexicans are known for being lazy. They're not good workers. Only a skinny-jeaned northern hipster would think they are hard workers.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:24 No.774439
    >>774338
    protip: your allergies will be 5x worse in the Phoenix area
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:24 No.774440
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    If they leave, where are they going to go? Mexico? Or just another state?

    This won't work until we do it in every state.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:25 No.774447
    >>774436
    This is great, home depot day laborers are a god send when you need to tear out a deck. or dig holes for posts.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:27 No.774470
    >>774364

    American citizens who will be paid more to do it and thus they will spend more.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:28 No.774474
    fuck this bill WORKS
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:28 No.774475
    >>774436
    I am a skinny jean wearer. But I am not a hipster because
    I acknowledge differences in race
    Am hispanic and value culture a lot because I am upset I don't speak spanish
    Have subtle mental handicap which makes it hard to learn new things, remember verbal instruction, read facial expressions, weigh social verbal boundaries.
    I am not a trustafarian
    I don't get a social security check (I do get foodstamps and $150 assistance every month though and I love the U.S. of A. all the more for it.)

    And I want to go to Arizona and work there doing a job that a Mexican was previously filling.

    They should go fix their country if it's so bad. When I mess up my apt I don't move into a new one. I clean it.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:28 No.774480
    >>774470
    >implying americans cannot be paid under the table.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:30 No.774488
    If unskilled Mexican labour is so great why is Mexico so glad to get rid of it?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:30 No.774490
    >>774470
    What if the American Citizen just happened to be really dark. They would never see the end of being asked over and over to show some I.D. It opens the door to more racial injustices.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:31 No.774504
    >>774488
    Mexico is shit that's why.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:32 No.774509
    >>774490

    He knows to carry his i.d at that point.He will have to deal with that shit to get the job.If he doesn't want to i guess it's not worth it to him.
    >> Weiner !!4Xsqhrl4OPk 04/29/10(Thu)17:33 No.774515
    I can't believe people still think this is bill is good.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:33 No.774516
    There is really only two ways to solve the issue with this law (since as it stands now it is clearly inequitable)

    1. Mandate federal ID's for all citizens and legal residence, this prevents injustices by having everyone liable to provide ID to law enforcement
    2.Repeal/put down the law, this brings us back to the what we had before.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:33 No.774519
    wasn't it already illegal to hire illegals?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:33 No.774524
    I'm shocked that the purpose of the bill worked.
    (I'm not shocked)
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:34 No.774526
    >>774509
    >he has to prove he's one of us in order to be accepted, simply because he has dark skin
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:36 No.774538
    >>774386
    you sir, are a fool, the economy is bad enough in Southern states like AZ that people ARE trying to get these jobs, college fag here. we just hired a couples hosts at the restaurant i work at who have masters degrees. our dish washer is 60 years old plus. people will do the work, but you cant pay slave wages like people want to pay illegals.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:36 No.774542
    >>774526

    I've been pulled over for being white in bad neighborhoods(car searched a few times too).People get racially profiled.Deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:38 No.774565
    >day laborers
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:39 No.774579
    I love this thread so much I wish I could build a lofted bed and pay rent.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:40 No.774585
    >>774542

    This isn't racial profiling by law enforcement, we are talking about facing suspicion at the job due to the color of his skin.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:41 No.774599
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    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:44 No.774622
    >>774599
    You got that.

    They are "illega", the money they make is untaxed.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:45 No.774637
    >Some illegal immigrants say they plan to leave state

    oh man, how awful... really? you ... you gotta leave? so soon ....

    fucking liberals.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:45 No.774640
    >>774585

    lol "a car of white kids here i bet they are buying drugs..lets search the car"

    Yeah it isn't fair that they have to go thru that for a job.If they want that job to be available to them they do tho.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:47 No.774657
    >>774640

    It's not just unfair, Its illegal numb nuts. The same standards should be applied to all, either everyone gets a background check and SSN verification or nobody does.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:48 No.774670
    >Some illegal immigrants say they plan to leave state

    And the problem is where?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:49 No.774680
    >Supporters of the law hope it creates jobs for thousands of Americans.

    thousands of below minimum wage day laboring jobs?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:51 No.774701
    >>774680

    Supporters of the law should have just fucking boycott the companies that hire illegals, Not only is it more effective, its a free market solution and therefore it wouldn't reek of hypocrisy from republicans like this solution
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:51 No.774706
    the way the law is written, they can't go up to you and ask for documentation, its more, hey I noticed you're doing something illegal, and then they can ask. Much like how when a cop gives you a dui, they need a reason to have pulled you over other than "I thought he was drinking" or you just leaving a bar.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:51 No.774711
    >>774657
    I'm ok with that.Go change the law numb nuts.And it's only illegal if the law says they can't check the i.d of any race.I don't think it says that.You know they can check the i.d of someone with a british accent right?Isn't the laws fault police are racist.

    U mad?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:51 No.774713
    >>774516
    1. Even though this seems great in reality it would be totally biased in that, for the most part,only beaners would be asked to pull out their I.D.
    2. This would get us fuck nowhere because immigrants would still pour across the border. Not that I'm against them it's just that many are not, contrary to liberal belief, looking for jobs. Many are criminals and unless we want the border states to start looking like fucking mexico in terms of crime we should prevent most of illegal immigration.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:53 No.774725
    >>774657
    That takes too much time and wastes money.
    Example:
    The only suspect in a murder case is a black male who appears to be in his 20s. You're not going to round up every black male in his 20s in a 50 mile radius.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:54 No.774752
    >>774725

    This isnt about police enforcement numbnuts, its about unreasonable suspicion of legal mexican residents in job applications.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:55 No.774759
    >>774713
    That's not even true. Illegals are less likely to commit a violent or property crime than legal residents and citizens. Most of the violence is a result of drug trade, which is mostly independent of illegal immigration.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:56 No.774768
    >>774680
    Seriously, that makes me lol so hard
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)17:59 No.774797
    >>774759

    The drug smugglers also smuggle humans (or vice versa, depending on how you see it), but the people they smuggle themselves don't have much to do with it. They're just poor shlubs trying to get a better life.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:02 No.774819
    >>774797
    That too. My main point is that stopping illegal immigration won't stop the violence, and anyone who thinks it will has no idea what's really going on.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:06 No.774859
    >>774819
    No...YOU KNOW NOTHING!
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:06 No.774862
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    >>774338 So I am an american citizen with bad allergies and a deep love for white women. I am Puerto Rican. to Arizona to do menial labor? Because I alway wanted job security even though, try as hard as I might, I couldn't do well in the NY school system.

    I lived in SE AZ for a while. There isn't as much menial labor(farm labor) there as in CA, but then again CA is in an economic dump for the foreseeable future. Assuming you do find enough work, anywhere in Arizona is generally going to be relaxed, friendly, and comfortable to live in.
    Airborne allergens: Pollens here aren't very allergenic or common except at certain times of year. Airborne dust is omnipresent, sometimes only a slight amount, in a windstorm, much more.
    Skin allergies: Arizona is DRY except for the Summer monsoon season. If you have any skin conditions, expect massive, even painful, eczema every Winter.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:07 No.774870
    >>774713
    Build an electric fence.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:28 No.775039
    ugly problems sometime demand solutions are that aren't particularly pretty
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:30 No.775062
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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCreeH58lf4

    fags
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:32 No.775077
    hey this might work, lets see how many Americans are gonna do the same job, for the same money though
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:32 No.775080
    >>774862
    Thanks for the info. btw, yiff in hell furfag. That is all.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:43 No.775196
    >>775062
    lol this is why everyone think republicans are retard
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:45 No.775217
    >>775062
    this is what I imagine every right wing basement dweller on /new/ aspires to be like.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:46 No.775230
    >Some illegal immigrants say they plan to leave state

    THAT'S THE FUCKING POINT
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:51 No.775304
    oh, now you've done it, arizona.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:53 No.775328
    >>775062
    This guy is amazing . He sounds like a new yorker. Wish I would meet him one day. Shake his hand.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:55 No.775342
    >>775328
    >He sounds like a new yorker

    I too think that new yorkers are loud mouthed 80s italian-american movie stereotypes.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:56 No.775353
    http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2010/04/mexican-teen-gets-40-years-in-prison-for-killing-borde
    r-patrol-agent.html
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)18:59 No.775403
    >>In before lazy white Arizonans baw about the prices of lawn care, restaurants, and other services sky rocketing because of cheap labor going elsewhere.

    Shooting yourselves in the foot, idiots.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:01 No.775429
    >>774311

    yessssssssssssssssssss

    avondale reporting in.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:04 No.775458
    >>775077
    You mean for cash money? That idea sounds better every day! Free healthcare because I have no reported income? YES PLEASE!!
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:05 No.775467
    >>775403
    Price corrections.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:07 No.775501
    >>775403
    >Sky rocket a whole 8 cents.

    imokwiththis.jpg
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:10 No.775525
    >>775328
    he sounds like a DI. well, a very quiet DI.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:14 No.775553
    >which also makes it a crime to be in the U.S. illegally

    funny how they finally made something that was illegal a crime eh?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:15 No.775567
    >>774364
    >>774383
    >>GUYS THIS NEW BILL IS RACIST AGAINST MEXICUNTS!!! BAWW!!
    >>WHITE PEOPLE DON'T WORK HARD IS A FACT AND NOT A RACIST STATEMENT.

    wtf libfags....you srs?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:15 No.775570
    >Illegals leave Arizona because of immigration laws
    >States that they migrate to enact similar laws once they get tired of their bullshit

    justasplanned.jpg
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:23 No.775625
    >Enforces already existing federal law
    >Racist
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:30 No.775674
    >>774311
    I am so happy right now!
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:31 No.775683
    >>775570
    >implying other states don't already have the majority of illegals

    Arizona is a bitch. Illegal immigration has been going on forever, it's just recently since crack downs have been going on in the cities that they've started to come in through Arizona. The whole reason illegal immigrants are in Arizona is because of immigration crackdowns elsewhere.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:34 No.775707
    >>774475
    >(I do get foodstamps and $150 assistance every month though and I love the U.S. of A. all the more for it.)

    Where do you get the $150 assistance from?
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:35 No.775721
    >>775707
    I dunno, they gave it to me when I applied for foostam.
    >> Anonymous 04/29/10(Thu)19:39 No.775753
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    >>775721
    Thank you for responding to my post.



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