its true
ohboyherewego.jpgI would love to stay and watch the shitstorm, but my girlfriend wants to fuck.
the free market expects *results*
Actually the free market does "fix everything". Sorry! Maybe if you put some more time into educating yourself (note: educating yourself doesn't mean watching cnn), you'd realize that government control is complete and total drain on society.about 75% of the wealth in an economy is destroyed by government intervention. If we lost the government, we'd live 4 times as well as we do now.-Tom
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>>753908Yea, if you live in a fairytale world.
>>753920Sky = limit
>>753931Wrong. Free market principles apply to real life. The only "fairy tale" here is the idea that government intervention is ever good.-Tom
fuck the unregulated free marketit destroyed my chances of having a choice in my ISP
>>753934Going to play with this later, I'm fucking tired right now.
>>753950Indeed.
>>753950>government intervention is ever good.It is good. The government is omniscient, far more than the market ever will be.
>>753950 The only "fairy tale" here is the idea that government intervention is ever good.Which is why there's so many successful countries in the world with totally unregulated markets, amirite?
>>753977>omniscent, far more than the market ever will be.The government is comprised of several thousand people, the market is comprised of several million people, and the people who end up on the top are those proven by the system to be the best. So no, the government is not more omniscent than the free market, that assertion is a complete fantasy.-Tom
The industrial revolution was awsome, who needs workers rights and safety standards enforced by the government? the free market would eventually fix that anyways
>>753989They don't exist because the state protects it's own interests and sustains itself. People are greedy, thus governments are formed in order to steal wealth and exploit people.-Tom
>>754007sad-panda complex
>>753994The only people who make it to the government are the elite.They are wise sages, far more than worthless consumers.
>>753994>people who end up on the top are those proven by the system to be the besttell that to school teachers
>>754048It's not funny or ironic when it's true.
>>754048Taxation is theft. The extortionate removing of your money. The government is no better than the mob in this respect.-Tom
You won't believe how close that looks to my Libertarian friend, pony tail, choice of shit color, glasses. Spot on.
>>754055> The roads, civil protection, protection of liberties, sewage system, affordable electricity, clean water and solid housing foundations appeared all on their own!
>>754092yes.yes, it is...
>>754119LTCM wasGovernments fault.
lol @ conservatives aka libertarians on /new/.....so delusional haha. I laughed watching the few here try and defend the ridicule.
>>754130LTCM was funny as hell.
>>754098Amtrak (how to lose money running a railroad and keep running)Postal Rates Commission (how many people does it take to raise the price of stamps one cent or two?)Panama Canal Commission (we gave it back to Panama in 1999, we still have this?)Merit Systems Protection Board?!?Just because government does a few functions, that it was designed to do, doesn't mean we have to put up with every piece of shit government program that comes down the pipe. And these piece of shit programs are coming everyday now. Enough is enough, knock off all the intrusive government shit. Liberals act like they can't wipe their asses without a government program.
Haaahahahaaaa! What a bunch of faggots!-Joseph
>>754169>Implying that railroad construction wasn't HEAVILY, HEAVILY subsidized by the national government to the point that their construction would have been impossible without the national government.
>>754161personally i think they should have just let them fail.
>>754191Warren Buffet just bought $26 billion worth of railroads, you can bet he's not going to lose money on that deal.Amtrak loses money every year. You'd think railroads had been around long enough, that government could butt out?
>>754191>implying that it wasn't an incredible land grab by big business, implying that it didn't encourage inefficiency and violence, implying that they didn't manipulate national politics for decades.gg government, thanks for playing.
>>754191...what are you retarded?amtrak is so fucking slow and useless because they put passenger trains on existing privately owned freight rails.
>>754194>roads and postal service, the responsibility of government>lol i trawl u
>>754216Absolutely. It just amuses me that someone who had bought into the index at 3:1 or 4:1 leverage could have enjoyed the same performance without the sudden death spiral.
>>754219Government subsidises planes and roads too much for rail to viable, but doesn't want the infrastructure to deteriorate too much so has to subsidise rail too.
>>754245...do you have any idea how much freight is moved over rail?
>>754219>>754232>>754238>Implying America would be a first world country without the construction of railroads.
>>754233>implying greed causes recessionsfacepalm.jpg
>>754239>>754239>>implying roads are made by private companies and the postal service is a private company
>>754287we have private roads and private post and nobody bitches about those.
>>754271I suggested no such thing. It certainly helped, but it was also one of the first examples of how badly government can fuck things up.Also, the British rail system (which runs on time), and Great Northern.
>>754271The railroads and interstates have been built a long time now. Time for government to butt out. If the people who use them won't maintain them, too bad. Guess they aren't as important as government says.
>>754298potential win if you cleaned it up
>>754287No i didn't, you're retarded and can't read
>>754298SO MUCH WIN
>>754316That wouldn't employ as many bureaucrats, and that will never fly.
>>754298best I could come up with
>>754297>>implying private roads can get you from point a to b
>>754366Private roads will suffice for an infinitesimally small fraction of the choices of A and B.Much like public roads.
>>754332Yeah, my town wants to fix up a couple of blocks of a street in the center of town. $9 million, 80% from federal highway funds (it's a two way, one lane in each direction street) 15% from state highway funds, the town will borrow the last 5%. WTF is Federal highway money being used on a city street for. Keep all those Federal and State highway employees shuffling the money around, having meeting and collecting fat salaries, healthcare and pensions. Fuck it, if a town can't fix it's own streets they should shut the place down.
>>754085In the Objectivist theory of government, the government only "redistributes" the evils done to society through th tax code.Rather than have a few people get raped and murdered under anarchy, the cost of those rapes and murders is distributed to society through the cost of preventing them through the defense and judicial systems.Therefore, the government makes everyone be slightly stolen from instead of having their lives or property stolen in extreme and isolated cases. This helps to prevent the root cause of violations of people's rights, and makes the cost to society of crime less overall.So yes, taxes are theft. Specifically, the redistributed theft of people who are thieves in the first place.(Yes, I'm aware that our government vastly exceeds this philosophy in its current extent.)
>>754098FDA, another Federal goatrope. Watch TV for 5 minutes, see drugs advertised, hear all the side effects, approved by the FDA. Two minutes later watch the 1-800 number commercial for attorneys who will sue for you if you took XTZ drug and had side effects. Got to love those government regulators. Wall Street regulators, Coal mine regulators, fuck, lets have ass wipe regulators stand in public restrooms, make sure you wash your hands and don't leave your shit on the doornob when you leave.
A cookie for someone who can recognize this quote.
>>754447how do you put those bubble letters in? I am using Paint since I fail.
>>754435Oh, so we should just let every drug ever be on the market so long as the company can afford to put it up there?Dude, you are fucking brilliant!!! The free market WILL fix everything!
>>754440Karl Marx was only one-half Keynesian; or, really, Keynes was only one half Marx. The "to each according to his need" part.
>>754440MR was kinda nutty, but I'll have to agree with him on that point.
>>754456Bro, IMPACT, is like the basic font for image macros.
This thread suddenly got a lot more fun for some reason.
>>754456GIMP is free, try it.
>>754460look what happened to GM when they got bad press for begging for money after it's CEO flew in to DC on a private jet.note that flying on a jet has nothing to do with the quality of their products.image is far more important in a free market, and bad press can fuck you hard.
>>754396We could tone down government quite bit and not be worse for wear. Government is becoming the major threat to our prosperity.
>>754456http://wigflip.com/roflbot/interactor?8/N/XgKYDKKi1w
>>754435what the fuck goatrope is a real term? i just thought it was something some douchebag made uphttp://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=goatrope
Group photo from last night's Von Mises Institute fundraiser.
>>754460We have laws, if you fuck up, you should pay the price. regulations just give defense attorney's more ammunition, i.e., it was approved by the FDA so, we're not guilty.It's very simple, just beef up the Attorney General's office's, get rid of all the regulatory agencies. If you lose $85 billion of other people's money - negligence, if your peoduct kills people - negligence, if you spill millions of gallons of oil -negligence.It's called accountability. no need for mountains of regulations, it's pretty clear if you fuck up royally. Law school could probably be cut back to one semester, concentrating on negligence.
>>754547What could Enron have done without government?
>>754409Needs one with utopia society.
>>754577Pay their employess ten times as less.
>>754596fucking nigger, it messed up.
>>754493and after America found out Toyota's cars were random death traps, their profits went up
>>754581I was going to let you know someone keeps posing as you.
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>>754607Yes, and because of all the regulations, they get off pretty easy. Their plants and designs were government inspected and approved. They only have to pay a small fine because they didn't notify the government of the problems in the regulation alotted time.
I love this thread.
>>754622Yeah, I know. There's like four of them. It died down when they realized I didn't give a single fuck about my 'reputation.'
>>753898Nobody denied the central bank played a role but unregulated greed has cause a lot of problems in the past.
>>754298I cleaned up the picture and uploaded it to memegenerator for easy captioning
>>754683You guys are seriously butthurt by flowergirl if you're giving him so much attention. Did he own you guys that hard?
>>754098Like regulations stopped all the other meltdowns in past 100years. The only regulation we need is, "if you fuck up big time, you're going to pay". AIG lost $85 billion of other people's money - they fucked up big time, say the top 85 highest paid guys get life in prison, sounds fair. Won't be long before the top guys at big companies took a little closer look at what was going on. No sense in being the richest guy in the penetentiary.
>>754692
>>754659>>i had to actively put a name into the name field, but i don't care.
>>754654And what punishment would the free market give them?
>>754692I think it's more that he posts everywhere. Seriously, he shows up in four out of five threads on this board and always spouts the same shit.Which is why the meme is funny, that you can pretty much guess what he's going to say next. Y'know, sometimes people do things to be funny instead of because they're srsbusiness and butthurt.
>>753884>>753884Oh my god, I made that thread hours ago, did I just create a new meme?I give the credit to you anon, you and me did it, you and me.
>>754724our actions will probably end up saving him time
That's it for me for now. This was fun.>>754715>>754652>>754606>>754573Saved.
>>754742Flowergirl's time has no value, unfortunately.