sorry that we ruined your dream to leech off the nanny state liberals have created and send all the money you actually do make back to mexico and out of our economy

now i understand why liberals say america is not a perfect country. if it was, racial profiling could not become law.

>>733942
I WISH arizona was actually like that that, OP.
Unfortunately we're only rounding them up and asking for IDs instead of killing them, though.

Am I still a liberal if I think this law is necessary?

Obama voting Democrat here, go get 'em Arizona.

Too bad ole McCain is gonna get kicked out of the senate CUZ HE'S TOO LIBRUL.

QUESTION: what do they mean when they keep saying Arizona is "criminalizing illegal immigration" on the news?


Doesn't "illegal" imply that it's a criminal offense already?

Also, if they couldn't racially profile before, what could they do?

Why is racial profiling so unreasonable?! I just don't get it. You KNOW that Mexicans are sneaking in. So why wouldn't you look for Mexicans? What other criteria is there to profile them with?

How many 6 foot tall Swedes have snuck in from Mexico?

If you don't like Arizona's way of doing it, what would you propose instead???

inb4 shoot the brown ones

>>734070
because liberalism

My solution: DEPORT ALL DARK SKINNED PEOPLE TO IRAQ

I don't like butthurt mexicans, in fact I hate mexicans in general, but..this needs a supreme court ruling, I can see both sides have an argument.

>>734008
No, because it's not. Immigration reform and punishing employers for hiring illegals is what's necessary.

Say what you want, hate what you want, bigot fest with the best of them, but make no mistake, this is another low point for the U.S.

History will not be kind to these policy makers.

They're having a huge hurt butt over this but I don't see them having any better ideas. Or even offering any ideas.

or even attempting to have one.

So yeah, necessary evil. Border crossing needs to be curbed.

Mexicans in the US lose their shit whenever politicians want to put up a fence or increase border patrol. They make it clear that they want it to be as safe and easy as possible for illegals to get in.

It's impossible to take these people seriously.

>>734095

How is a law making it easier for law enforcement to find and deport illegals NOT immigration reform?

>>734330
i don't think you understand what immigration reform means

>>734450
to mexicans, it translates to amnesty and special treatment for being sneaky criminal border hoppers

This is the worst shit that has ever happened

Oh no, fewer illegals that aren't supposed to be here in the first place! That's just one step away from Auschwitz.

Somebody has to stop the mudslide.

> if it was, racial profiling could not become law.

>implying discrimination is inherently bad

So when you are sharing something, let's say a box of chocolates, do you consider each piece equally or do you pick out the ones you like? Oh? You don't like the coconut filled ones? You racist!

>>734516
Freedom is basicly the right to discriminate.

OP is bat-shit crazy.

>>734516

>implying eating is the same as judging another human

>No, because it's not. Immigration reform and punishing employers for hiring illegals is what's necessary.

Immigration reform isn't going to do shit. Illegals are hired, not because they will do the work legal citizens won't do, but because they will do the work cheaper than a legal citizen is forced to charge. Making all the illegals legal just adds that many unemployed people to our country, because they will be out of their jobs/undesirable within a few years time.

Punishing employers is about as effective as punishing a cancer patient for smoking weed instead of busting the guy importing millions of dollars of weed + other drugs. You can not expect competent business people to choose the more expencive worker, especially if they want to stay completive with the companies that legally outsource all their workers for even cheaper than illegals. Unfortunately, some jobs just aren't outsourcable.

>implying eating is the same as judging another human

>ignoring the point with green text because you have no counter arguement.

>>734330
Clusterfuck ton more collateral. For every illegal they catch, they're going to piss off a hundred legal Latinos who will want nothing more but to sue them for discrimination.

I love how buttmad everyone in the blue states are getting over this. Guess what, it isn't in your state, so it doesn't affect you.

It's not the illegal immigrants' fault; there are so many business owners advertising labor to them that they just come over. They're not going to stop. They need to punish those who hire them.

Make mexicans and other spics illegal. That would make it easier.

>>734516
>>thinks coconut is a race

Arizona should just pass a law that automatically turns all minorities in its borders into second class citizens.
I'm sure all real Americans should find no problem in that law.

>>734666
>Thinks mexicans are people.

Some of you people have no heart at all. Just because some people are illegal does not mean they are not human. They still have rights you know.

>>734727
They have the right to crawl back to their shithole and preferably die there.

>>734759
This. Fucking subhuman scum. They're trying to steal our paradise. Fucking parasites.

>>734727

Yes, they still have rights. But, they don't have the right to treat our borders like they don't exist. The first act they committed in our country was breaking its laws.

Doing that shits right in the face of everyone else who comes to our country and does it the right way.

>>734616
Hey fuckface, I live in Phoenix. This is absolutely retarded in every sense.

>>734822
>our country

i hope your native american

>>734866
I am.

I was born here.

>>733959
How can an illegal "leech off of the state" when they pay into it via sales taxes yet can not claim any benefits?
And as for nanny state, lol, guess you dont know who employs the most Arizonan's or who voted for the state government to become so bloated there.

Or anything about its heavily subsidized industries. Or who votes the most consistantly for public monies to prop up said industries.

Go ahead and say liberals again tho, its funny and also hey, maybe it will work and magically change reality and then there would be one party to blame rather then two! That would be swell if reality worked as you seem to think it does, as it would mean that the nanny state could easily be voted against, instead of how reality actually works where it will never be voted against because a collection of individual ambitions can subsist on the fact that people like yourself will be distracted and participate in blaming one party over another with empty sondbytes like you have parroted, and everybody involved gets to dodge accountability!


Go put a sticker on a car or something.

>>734886

>implying white europeans didn't just make that rule up

>implying the constitution is anything more then a bunch of ideas that people choose to stick too

>>734822
Hopi here, get bend, dickwad.

>>734922

income tax, state and federal. + social security etc. + they send a great deal of money back home

srsly bro, srsly

>>734942
White man here, I don't give a fuck, go back to your desert or reservation or whatever.

We didn't just contribute to this country, our fathers conquered this land and built what is now the United States on it.

Of course the land was here before us, but the nation IS us.

anyone who is for this law is a redneck.

>>734979
What does "redneck" even mean? It's just a term used by Jews and blacks to insult decent Christian white men, I'm proud to be a white man so I don't care what you call us.

>>734948
Ya? take a look at the numbers.


I dont see why you didnt do that before posting. its not like it would have taken you long.


lol.

>>734942
White guy with a rifle and the sniffles, make me.

Remittances from the United States is the #2 largest monetary income source in Mexico, behind oil. Does that tell you something?

>>734979
i'm hispanic and im for this law. it's not fair to the rest of the world's immigrants who wait patiently, follow the rules, and are excited about joining the U.S. to just let Mexicans in and give them amnesty for being criminals. plus, the quality of their immigrants is low.

>>734922
Most taxes paid to federal government; most expenses taken from the state government. Hospitals closing because of so many people along the border using emergency services with no insurance who can't pay.

>>735018
You're for it? Cool, move to Arizona. Live there for a year. See how much you like the law afterwards. Hint: you're going to be harassed by cops all the time.

>>735034
Source.

>>735018
I hope you like being pulled over by the cops.

I'm against this law, but because it will result in the harassment of Latinos here legally. I don't give a fuck about the illegals.

Hey I've seen this before. Just different names.

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_Exclusion_Act

>>735044
>>735039
why would i care? i'll just show them my i.d. and be on my way. the only people who complain are mexicans who want to take advantage of the system and pull the racist card to avoid any opposition (or the liberals who believe in "social justice").

>>735043
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17760618/

I agree that this law is discrimination...
but why shouldn't we discriminate?

If you're trying to find illegal Mexicans, does it make more sense to ask the people that look Mexican and can't speak English for ID,

OR
should you ask Mexican looking people for identification AS WELL AS the black people and 6 foot tall Swedes so you can look more racially sensitive?

>>735054
You know what? San Francisco was a worker's paradise before big business started shipping in boatloads of Chinese to undercut local workers. You know why there were anti-Chinese riots? Because people spent all their money to go west for work, only to get fucked over and put out on the street with no money and no food. There wasn't welfare or back to work programs back then, you just fucking died. Just like today, it's rich fuckers importing labor to undercut American workers and creating wealth disparity.

I've got no problem with illegal immigrants, it's a win win situation
That is except for the irrational over reactive redneck that thinks they're a poison to society. But disregard their opinion because they're fucking idiots.
What happened to:
"Give me your tired, your poor,

Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,

The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.

Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,

I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"?

>>735098
that only applies to white people

>>735052

How exactly is asking someone to see their ID real quick "harassment"?!

It takes 2 seconds. They aren't kicking down your front door and tasing you.

>>735110
Haha, true
I still hate America

>>735098

do you honestly not see a problem with an open border where people can just come and go as they please?

>>735136
only problem would be white people getting their panties in a bunch

>>735136
No, do you?
Please explain.

>What does "redneck" even mean? It's just a term used by Jews and blacks to insult decent Christian white men, I'm proud to be a white man so I don't care what you call us.

Redneck refers to white people who work outside. Since white people sun burn easily, a white worker gets a red neck. It's a really silly insult... as only a minority would think someone that works is a bad thing.

But like you say, it's meaning as been twisted by the media and such to mean stupid and retarded (kind of like how gay use to mean happy and now it means lolhomosexual)

>>735086
according to liberals, yes. that is also how you should check for terror suspects at airports. because feelings are more important than lives, laws, or economies.

The problem is that the USA crafts policies to keep Mexico down so it can be an endless source of cheap labor. We need to do what we can to elevate Mexico to the same status as the USA, but to do that we have to fight big business interests.

>>735165
oh lord here come the marxists

>>735098

You're right anon. While I'm at it, I think I'm going to just leave my front door open tonight when I got to sleep. I'll put a sign in my yard that says "strangers welcome".

What's the worst that could happen right?

>What happened to:
"Give me your tired, your poor,
Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free,
The wretched refuse of your teeming shore.
Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my lamp beside the golden door!"?

Except immigrants back in the 1800s didn't receive tons of state benefits, and were typically more educated than the average legal citizen of today.

Oh yeah, then there was that whole "we have half a continent to conquere and we kinda killed the natives off so we need some more people. We don't anymore.

>>735160
Redneck = white-trash. It's like calling someone a honkey. Get it right.

>>735160
Actually Red Necks refer to a specific white militia in West Virgina who fought corporate enforcers who'd come to bust up a union strike at a coal mine.

The term has since expanded to cover any rural white who leans conservative, which is funny, because for a significant portion of the people who are painted with the term, the term has positive and left wing connotations.

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>You're right anon. While I'm at it, I think I'm going to just leave my front door open tonight when I got to sleep. I'll put a sign in my yard that says "strangers welcome".


>EXCEPT STRANGERS AREN'T COCONUTS.

America believes itself to be a homogenized group now, so outside influence is looked upon with suspicion. That's the story.

>>735213
:D

>>735136
Go to Europe. It's all open border.

>>735097
So why are u mad at the immigrants its obvious capitalist are the ones buttfucking you?

Oh wait you are a patriotic fool!

>>735192

>anon who actually realizes that meanings of words change over time

Oddly enough, calling someone black used to be worse than calling them a negro, which was the pc term.

Now black is more pc than negro.

Liberal and Conservative used to mean the exact opposite of what they mean today.

Democrat and Republican also have the exact opposite principles of the ones they were founded on.


Funny how that works right?

Love this new law, say hello to rational thought and action.

Nevertheless, wetbacks will continue to strawman the shit out of this country and call everyone racist just like a five year old will cry to get what it wants because it's effective.

>>735278
>I like being rational!
>NIGGERS AND JEWS

>>735248

Except that it isn't...

It's only open border when you're traveling from one EU country to another. I can't just waltz over from the US and expect to not show my passport.

>>735265
those people attacked the Chinese because they had no other outlet. I don't hate Mexicans, I'd be happy to punish the employers. I don't support this bill, but obviously Latinos are afraid it'll be effective or they wouldn't be freaking out so bad. Arizona is probably the biggest border crossing state in the country.

if only arizona were actually that cool, id move there

Mexicans aren't upset because white people are discriminating against them.

They're upset because law enforcement finally being able to ask for your ID is going to lead to more illegals being deported than ever before (effective deportation: a frightening concept).

>>735317
Yeah, cuz all of AZ is Yuma and Tucson.

You have the internet, why don't you use it to get information?

>>735327
>All Mexicans are immigrants
Oh, I see.

>>735340

Did I say Mexican-American?

I'm moving to Arizona, this works in my favor because I am going there legally.