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    125 KB Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:19 No.691767  
    Do conservatives realize that idolizing people like Ann Coulter, Sean Hannity, Rush, and Beck is really hurting them more than anything?

    There are times I see conservatives things I can agree with. But then I see the things these people do, and I can't say I'd want to side with that. Is conservatism really about fear mongering and fear of all things "different"? I don't think it is, but that's what these folks you put up on the forefront advocate.

    Pic related. Is that the message you really want to give possible (currently) undecided supporters?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:22 No.691780
    > Rush

    You best be trollin
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:29 No.691802
    I understand completely. I've always been more moderate, but some of the things that Rush etc say really turn me away.
    >> thor !FjCMHpMxqo 04/21/10(Wed)14:30 No.691806
    >>691780
    Rush is a shitty band anyway, so it still applies.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:30 No.691810
    I'm glad the Republicans are pulling the shit they're doing. Eventually they are going to cross the line and push out all their moderate supporters, who make up the majority of the base, leaving them with a small group of fuckwits who will never accomplish anything.

    At least I hope that's what happens.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:31 No.691813
    Listening to Rush right now, he's defending the Branch davidian cult, because Clinton.

    THIS is what op is talking about.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:34 No.691827
    >>691767
    okay i know how you can see how trusting these people and listening to their fear mongering is nuts.
    but do you know what most people are? not just america, i mean the ENTIRE WORLD.
    they're retards.
    they don't understand shit. they can't discern when someone is blowing something out of proportion versus when someone isn't. AND GEE, WHAT COMES FROM IGNORANCE?
    fear. if you can make the ignorant, retarded masses afraid of something, they'll be on your side. they'll panic, they'll look to someone they can trust because they certainly don't know what to do. so they turn to beck and hannity, and limbaugh.
    then, you tell them you can fight that thing, but ONLY if you do exactly what they say. and they'll fuckin' listen, because they want to help.

    but this has all been rather tangential and roundabout so i'm going back to your post.
    these people, these idiots blow shit out of proportion. they shoot feds and abortionists and gays because GLENN BECK SES THURR EVUL.

    okay wait
    stopping rant time, going back to your post.

    people support the pundits for that reason: PEOPLE FOLLOW THEM. like it or not, they have a degree of charisma and a hell of a lot of sway over the average retard.
    and since most conservatives are GOD DAMN ANCIENT, they trust the pundits to do the talking and the swaying and the speeches for them.

    tada
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:37 No.691843
    >implying liberals and conservatives aren't both fearmongering like there's no tomorrow

    Playing to peoples fears and insecurities is how you get action in politics. There's nothing partisan about it.

    If you want your agenda to get passed, you need to create as strong a sense of urgency as possible.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:41 No.691858
    >>691813
    >he's defending the Branch davidian cult

    the fact of the matter is that they weren't hurting anyone doing what they were doing. and i don't think they ever would. let them stock pile guns and ammo and shoot them out in the desert. the only laws they broke was that nutjob koresh fucked some of the kids i think and they didnt have a tax stamp on the machineguns.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:44 No.691868
    >>691858

    >the only laws they broke was that nutjob koresh fucked some of the kids

    lol. yeah! no problem! of course limbaugh would support that. now all these stupid limbaugh fans are stupidly and unknowingly pedophile sympathizers. god conservatives are fucking morons.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:45 No.691874
    >doesnt realize that you don't need to be a dumbass to believe in the things that conservatives believe.

    i genuinely like glenn, ann and sean. they believe in better times past. just like me. just like alot of people. not all progression is good progression, alot of people are happy with the way things are, or were back in the day. i don't like social change. by all means, invent new shit and do more scientific research but leave the fundimental things which make america what it is alone.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:50 No.691903
    >>691874
    You know this makes perfect sense to me, I never viewed it in this light before.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:52 No.691910
    >>691874

    Following this logic, only rich white men would be able to participate in any part of the voting process.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:54 No.691929
    >>691910
    ..and? lol
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:56 No.691938
    >>691874
    >>691903
    samefaggin it up
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:57 No.691942
    >>691910
    i might be being really dense but i don't understand lol. all citizens should vote. i think as long as the conservatives are the majority and have majority vote we can preserve this country. hopefully we will get back in power in 1012 if we have a good candidate like ron or the huck. they are both real conservatives. john mccain was pretty liberal.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:58 No.691945
    >>691910

    sounds good to me
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)14:59 No.691947
    >>691929
    So you wouldn't get a vote, faggot.

    >>691942
    I'm saying that, using your logic of "Not allowing society to move forward socially", we'd still have slaves, women wouldn't be able to vote, etc.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:01 No.691955
    >>691942

    >1012

    funny, that's what it's like when conservatives are in power.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:02 No.691962
    these people you mention were never meant to win over moderates, they're are in place to stir up the base.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:03 No.691964
    >>691947
    >we'd still have slaves, women wouldn't be able to vote, etc

    oh lol. ok then, not changing anything socially from now.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:05 No.691972
    >>691964

    Now's not perfect though, so why should we halt social progress?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:09 No.691990
    >>691972
    >"progress"

    personally, i think things are fine how they are. i don't walk around my town and look around and think. "man ... things could be so much better". any changes made and any "progression" would just make the country more liberal. and i don't want that.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:11 No.692000
    >>691990

    >More liberal

    What's wrong with that? What's wrong with increasing the liberty of the individual, so long as it doesn't infringe on the liberty of others? Gay Marriage comes to mind as a good example of an area where we have room to improve, for instance.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:12 No.692008
    >>691990
    So you're the reason I'll never get a government run brothel which also sells weed at fair prices. It would erase the national debt in a matter of months.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:17 No.692027
    >>692000
    i respect your opinion but i disagree with it. i believe that the traditional marriage between one man and one woman should be preserved. its a tradition, religious in nature that has remained unchanged for thousands of years. thats what a tradition is, it remains unchanged. marriage by definition is one man and one woman, we have pregressed though to a certain extent and gays are allowed their own unity ('civil unions'). but marriage is for straight people. to demand a 'right' of a group which you dont belong to is kinda stupid.

    i always liken it to white people wanting to use the word nigger "baww why cant we use that .. blacks are allowed so why arent we?". the simple answer is that it is becasue we are not black. it is a black word traditionally used by blacks. to damnad that us white folk be able to use it is retarded becasue we are not part of their group and never will be.

    kind of a bad comparrison but you get what i am trying to say.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:17 No.692034
    >>691858
    >>the fact of the matter is that they weren't hurting anyone doing what they were doing
    >>he only laws they broke was that nutjob koresh fucked some of the kids
    >>fucked some kids
    i didn't know catholic priests came to 4chan
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:19 No.692050
    >>692008
    >So you're the reason I'll never get a government run brothel which also sells weed at fair prices. It would erase the national debt in a matter of months.

    i'm glad that your degenerative ideas will never see the light of day or ever be taken seriously.

    >"HURR, WEED , SHALLOW SEX AND DRUGS ARE COOL, LETS ALL DO THEM WITHOUT WORRYING ABOUT IT DEGRADING THE MORALS OF OUR COUNTRY"

    go live in holland, they like folks like you.
    >> ­ 04/21/10(Wed)15:21 No.692070
    >>692027

    Tradition for the sake of tradition, huh?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:22 No.692072
    >>692034
    >lone psycho fucks some kids
    >76 innocent people die

    the whole situation was messed up. koresh was a fuckhead and the ATF screwed up bigtime. no one won, everyone lost.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:22 No.692074
    >>692027

    >i respect your opinion but i disagree with it. i believe that the traditional marriage between one man and one woman should be preserved.
    So you're denying rights that you have to others.

    >its a tradition, religious in nature that has remained unchanged for thousands of years.
    You realize that back in the day, men had multiple wives, right? Marriage has, does, and will change, especially when it confers special government-recognized benefits.

    >thats what a tradition is, it remains unchanged. marriage by definition is one man and one woman
    No, in fact it is not.

    >we have pregressed though to a certain extent and gays are allowed their own unity ('civil unions'). but marriage is for straight people. to demand a 'right' of a group which you dont belong to is kinda stupid.
    "Seperate but equal"... Where have I heard that before?

    >i always liken it to white people wanting to use the word nigger "baww why cant we use that .. blacks are allowed so why arent we?". the simple answer is that it is becasue we are not black. it is a black word traditionally used by blacks. to damnad that us white folk be able to use it is retarded becasue we are not part of their group and never will be. kind of a bad comparrison but you get what i am trying to say.
    It's just a bad comparison.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:23 No.692080
    OP, I drove by a care just like the one in your picture. Except it was plastered in pictures of babies and fetuses too.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:24 No.692088
    >>692070
    thats what tradition is. values passed down through generations. and its the main difference between libs and conservatives.

    conservatives value where we have been and want to maintain and preserve that way of living for future generations.

    liberals dont give a fuck about tradition or anything in the past and want to change everything to suit what they think the modern world should be like.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:25 No.692091
    I'm still waiting for a "revolution" to happen so that we can kill all radical conservatives legally. Seriously, nothing has killed the republican party more than they have.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:25 No.692094
    >>692027
    i respect your opinion but i disagree with it. i believe that the traditional marriage between one white and another should be preserved. its a tradition, religious in nature that has remained unchanged for thousands of years. thats what a tradition is, it remains unchanged. marriage by definition is between two white people, we have pregressed though to a certain extent and blacks are allowed their own unity ('civil unions'). but marriage is for white people. to demand a 'right' of a group which you dont belong to is kinda stupid.

    i always liken it to straight people wanting to use the word faggot "baww why cant we use that .. gays are allowed so why arent we?". the simple answer is that it is becasue we are not gay. it is a gay word traditionally used by gays. to damnad that us straight folk be able to use it is retarded becasue we are not part of their group and never will be.

    kind of a bad comparrison but you get what i am trying to say.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:25 No.692097
    >>691767
    If you are a conservative, you are a
    >bigoted
    >religious
    >racist
    >corporatist/crypto-fascist
    >patriarchal
    >enemy of western civilization

    There are no "reasonable" conservatives, only angry, psychotically selfish people who want to drag the world back into the middle ages.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:26 No.692103
    >>692050
    First of all, I've never smoked weed in my life and I'm also a virgin. I'm just thinking about things practically. People like pussy and weed, the government needs money, so the gov't should provide these things at a fair price. Oh and on the subject of gay marriage, I personally believe that marriage should not be recognized by the state or federal government. That way it becomes a purely religious thing and gay people can find a church that accepts their lifestyle choice.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:27 No.692109
    >>692088
    yeah those fuckers ruined slavery for EVERYONE.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:28 No.692112
    >>692050
    >i'm glad that your degenerative ideas will never see the light of day or ever be taken seriously.
    Different anon here. Wishful thinking at its finest on your part.

    >THE MORALS OF OUR COUNTRY
    What morals, and why do they even matter? As long as people can still act like they're part of a community, that's all that matters to me. Why would the introduction of brothels and weed inhibit something like that?
    >> AtheismIsGay !kfFBY.mP9s 04/21/10(Wed)15:28 No.692113
    no one idolizes hannity, faggot.

    beck and ann coulter are fucking awesome though. youre retarded if you dont think so.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:28 No.692118
    >>692112
    we have a sense of community?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:29 No.692121
    If conservatives were rational, they'd be liberals.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:30 No.692128
    >>692103
    marriage is a legal property merger more than it is a religious ritual. And if you did away with civil marriages, people would be forced to turn to religious institutions even if they oppose religion. Take me, for example, I'm not ever setting foot in a church, much less getting married in/by one.
    >> AtheismIsGay !kfFBY.mP9s 04/21/10(Wed)15:30 No.692134
    >>692121
    what's rational about liberalism? all their beliefs go completely against scientific facts.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:31 No.692138
    >>692134
    >politics
    >good science

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    >> ChristianityIsForFaggots !bdA0re3Ceg 04/21/10(Wed)15:31 No.692139
    >>692134

    >Implying religion, creationism, etc. have any basis in scientific fact

    oh u.jpg
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:32 No.692149
    >>692091
    liberals are scared of guns. it would be...

    an army of skinny know it all college kids with faggy hair, old college professors on ego trips and butthurt battle axe moms like rosie o'donnell.

    VS.

    a bunch of fucking angry men, young and old, all armed to the teeth with military grade weaponry and millions of rounds off ammunition that they have been stockpiling all their adult lives. they want liberal blood so bad and they can taste it. no force on earth will stop them...

    I WONDER WHO WOULD WIN??
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:33 No.692159
    More conservatives need to idolize cool conservatives like William Buckley, Barry Goldwater, or Milton Friedman.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:33 No.692160
    >>692113

    God fucking Jesus sucking cock I love you. You're funny.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:33 No.692162
    >>692134
    you mean against 19th century pseudo-science (racism), political propaganda (free market liberalism), superstition (religion), and soci- no, wait, the finer, polemical sciences are not even recognized by the right wing, so discerning the cause-effect relationships in modern society is left entirely to the left wing. Who woulda thunk.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:34 No.692163
    >>692149
    You best be betting on the side with the natural science professors and engineers, nigger.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:34 No.692165
    Why are white people of below average intelligents compared to other races such as Asians? Why do proud African American males always end up raping/murdering white men? Why are whites so weak they cannot defined themselves?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:34 No.692167
    >>692097
    as opposed to polite tolerent liberals that never make any angry bigoted generalizations like yourself?
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:34 No.692168
    >>692128
    that's nice. then it shouldn't be called marriage if it's just about property and a few other things. you could obtain the same benefits by allowing civil unions and let churches marry people.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:34 No.692170
    >>692149

    >implying that all conservatives are really that badass.

    Too bad they need guns to show their strength eh?
    >> ­ 04/21/10(Wed)15:35 No.692171
    >>692088

    >conservatives value where we have been and want to maintain and preserve that way of living for future generations.

    Even if that way of living is either absolutely shitty or could possibly be better, of course.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:35 No.692174
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    >>692121
    >Implying feelings are Rational
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:36 No.692178
    >>692134

    its retarded social conservatives like you that give conservatives a bad name.

    You're by far one of the stupidest posters on this board, and its kind of sad that people like you are the ones that the far left use as examples of conservatives.

    Seriously, stop posting, and go back to wetting your bed.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:36 No.692181
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    122 KB
    >>692112
    >implying brothels and weed are moral things.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:36 No.692182
    >>692149
    >implying Liberals don't have an army of minorities at their disposal.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:36 No.692183
    I'm terrified if Palin gets on the ballot. I'd be afraid the shit with Bush's elections would happen.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:37 No.692187
    >>692149
    You forget that mail-bomb terrorism is an invention of the left. If you were a right-wing manly man and would kick my ass on the street, I would mail a little package to your little daughter's kindergarten. I hate conservatives that much.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:38 No.692194
    >>692181
    Not at all what I was implying.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:38 No.692197
    >>692121
    if liberals were able to think logically without being blinded by their hippy agenda they would be conservative.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:38 No.692198
    >>692113
    my brother idolizes him, then agian my bro is a faggot
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:38 No.692204
    >>692181
    >implying morals aren't just medieval superstition
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:40 No.692209
    >>692139
    and the edgiest most childish trip award 2010 goes to .... ChristianityIsForFaggots !bdA0re3Ceg !!!!

    take a bow sir.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:41 No.692217
    >>692197
    "Liberalism" isn't something frivolous. The marxist academics I know are serious people, not hippies at all. Just because the right is full of goons and farmers in suits doesn't mean the little gaggle of fascist proles known as the republican party is any more respectable.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:41 No.692219
    >>692128
    I suppose civil unions for all could work in place of marriage. People could still get married for religious reasons but all couple would have to get civil unions to be recognized by the government. That could work.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:41 No.692221
    >>692170
    we win. dont give a fuck if you think we are pussies.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:42 No.692226
    >>692209

    I just bust that shit out whenever AIG posts in a thread I'm frequenting.

    You know, make it obvious where my allegiances lie.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:43 No.692234
    >>692197
    That's why Natural Science professors, Mathematicians, and Logicians are mostly liberal.

    Oh wait.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:51 No.692269
    >>692234
    >talking to a conservative
    >get points across with logic
    pick one.
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)15:54 No.692292
    >>692234
    I love how they always do that-

    >hurrdurr all these fucking liberal/socialist professors

    not seeming to realize that the two terms are
    1) largely mutually exclusive,
    an 2) how it reflects on intelligence vs their views

    ironiesabitch.jpg
    >> Anonymous 04/21/10(Wed)16:08 No.692397
    >>692234

    Natural science professors, mathematicians, and logicians believe that evolution and climate change are lies? They believe that the almighty Lord created everything in the universe and the Bible is literally true?

    Please qualify your statements. I don't believe scientists and mathematicians like the way conservatives are politicizing science. I would like to see a source for your outlandish claim.



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