>>687485
>The irony here is simply appaling
Any one with an ounce of sense doesn't live in the district.

To keep DC from having a voice in the House, -or representation. As in taxation with representation... Sound familiar? Taxation without representation was the reason for the original Boston tea party.- "Conservatives" from other states had an earmark tacked on allowing guns everywhere, so they could 1) be able to shoot at the president with a good scope and 2) "let all dem nignogs shoot demselves"

Conservafags, why don't you think DC should get representation. They pay taxes. If anyone should be marching in protest it the people of DC

Hell, even the Virgin Islands have a Rep. in the House.

And again, why are you protesting tax hikes for the rich? You'll never be rich. No matter who's in the Whitehouse.

This is all MD fault. The Federal government wanted to give most of the district back to MD just as the portions south of the Potomac were given back to VA. The only part to remain a Federal district were the areas around the White House, Capital Hill, and the SCOTUS. But no, MD didn't want it back.

>>687788
Hardly. Its the NRAs fault

>>687768
lol what, it's democrats opposing it at this point.

>>688024
Noooo. They only dropped it after the Repubes filled it with shit

Dear niggers:

You want enfranchisement? Start working for a living and paying income taxes.

>>687768
Because the only reason the concept is being brought up (after 200+ YEARS) is to create a GUARANTEED PERMAMENT Democrat seat.

If DC Negroes want representation, they're free to rejoin Maryland.

>>688043
They pay taxes in DC. No rep

Does Guam, The Virgin Islands, American Samoa, and Porto Rico pay taxes?

>>687788
No, actually the problem is DC's. Congress has forced so many unfunded mandates down the states' throats over the years that no state legislature in its right mind would want to adopt hundreds of thousands of welfare niggers all demanding food stamps and Medicaid.

>>688072

The real reason why DC has and will not get any real representation in Congress is because it has been a one-party territory. That one party is the Democrats. If that bill were to be passed and signed by the President, DC's senators and representatives would be Democrats.

The real reason is simply political control.

>>688066
Working people pay taxes in dc. There aren't a lot of those types outside of Georgetown.

>>688096
Only states get senators. By this reasoning there's some red districts that need to be stripped of a rep too, right?

>>688101
Oh yeay for more generalizations. Wholly besides the point

>>688096

Only States get Congressional Representation, D.C. is NOT a State. Considering that it took a Constitutional Amendment for D.C. to get electoral votes both parties have ceded that outside of another Constitutional Amendment giving D.C. Congressional Representation via federal legislation would be Unconstitutional!

Actually, the solution to DC was devised many years ago. It was proposed to make it literally a tax-free zone from top to bottom. No income taxes, no sales taxes, nothing. All city government services would be paid for by the fedgov (basically, by all the rest of us). The idea was that it would end the taxation-without-representation problem, while pretty much turning the entire shithole of a city (much of which is Detroit Lite) into a boomtown overnight as people flocked to gentrify DC.

But the idea was CRUSHED by the Democrats. Why? Because gentrification would mean more white people, which meant city government would no longer be a 100% Democrat patronage scam. Plus it would forever end their dreams of one day creating that magic Democrat-forever Congressional seat.

tl;dr The Democrats brought this on themselves and the proper outcome was reached.

>>On January 24, 2007, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) issued a report on this subject. According to the CRS, "it would appear likely that the Congress does not have authority to grant voting representation in the House of Representatives to the District.

>>688152
this shit is basically living proof that the democrats want more poor people in the name of votes

i wonder who would replace them if they somehow managed to implode.

In the matter of voting representation, I think permanent population of D.C. should be split along the line of the Maryland and Virginia's border. Population on one side are residents of the state of Maryland, population on the other side, residents of Virginia. Feds keep ownership, and maintain sovereignty only over properties of national and historic interest (like we do with most federal properties) and retain federal sovereignty.

The problem is it's a war between 3 distinct parties. What the economics look like on one side vs. another, what the voting blocks look like on one side vs. another between Virginia and Maryland and solutions that ultimately leave the citizens of D.C. in a losing position such as the possibilities of state sales and income taxes, as well as the D.C. government being less autonomous. Can't make them a state because one of the core concepts in the founding of this nation is that no one state has more power in the federal government outside of the US House (While real or not, DC would obviously appear to violate this, being the potential state that held our nation's Capitol). Simple solutions like mine are bound to piss at least 1/3 groups off, so at this point, doing nothing pisses the smallest group off, not to mention the ones that can't vote.

lol politics.

>>688168

>>Article One of the United States Constitution provides for a federal district, distinct from the states, to serve as the permanent national capital.

D.C. was never meant to be a State! Constitutionally it must remain separate. The best you could hope for would District of Columbia retrocession with MD.

>>688150
>>688168
Not statehood.

Geez.. States get two senators, and a bunch of House reps. Territories like The Virgin Islands only get House reps. DC is/was asking for one House rep.

News thread, saging for off topic bullshit.

>>688195

>>The United States Constitution grants congressional voting representation to the states, which the District is not. The District is a federal territory ultimately under the complete authority of Congress.

It doesn't matter, Senators or Congressmen the point is that D.C. is not a State and thus gets no congressional voting representation.

Attention conservafags ITT

Read up one of your founding fathers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_C._Calhoun

>>688220
calhoun was a faggot

>>688218
Neither DC nor the Virgin Islands are states. How often do I have to say it?

But now I'm confus. Do they pay taxes in DC or not? If so, they need a voice too. Doesn't matter what colour they are.

>>688231
Nevertheless, he was the first conservtive founder

>>688245

>>first conservtive founder

First conservative founder of what?

>>688245
true. but how is it relevant to topic?

>>688233

>>The Constitution does not provide for the representation of the District of Columbia or of territories. However, those places elect non-voting delegates or, in Puerto Rico, a Resident Commissioner. The District of Columbia and the territories of American Samoa, Guam, and the U.S. Virgin Islands are represented by one delegate each. Puerto Rico elects a Resident Commissioner, but other than having a four-year term, the Resident Commissioner's role is identical to the delegates from the other territories. The Northern Mariana Islands elected their first delegate in November 2008, who took office in January 2009. Delegates and Resident Commissioners may participate in debates and vote in committees. They may vote in the Committee of the Whole when their votes would not be decisive

The US representatives from other territories don't get a vote on the floor either. Where you aware of that?

>>688252
That page was updated since I last read it, so I can't find the bit about him wanting to let even citizans without property, so the less educated, have a vote.

>>688267
No....
I has a sad nou. So DC pays taxes or not?

>>688298

>>That page was updated since I last read it, so I can't find the bit about him wanting to let even citizans without property, so the less educated, have a vote

How convenient for you.

>>688298

>>So DC pays taxes or not?

Yes, they do. Although they also receive vast amounts of federal funding from Congress for a number of local initiatives and projects. I'd be in favor of something like this >>688152 entirely though!