tldr

george carlin was a wise man. read it, faggots.

"Every collectivist revolution rides in on a Trojan horse of 'emergency'. It was the tactic of Lenin, Hitler, and Mussolini. In the collectivist sweep over a dozen minor countries of Europe, it was the cry of men striving to get on horseback. And 'emergency' became the justification of the subsequent steps. This technique of creating emergency is the greatest achievement that demagoguery attains." -- Herbert Hoover

"We want redistribution of all wealth" - Van Jones, Obama's (former) Environmental Advisor


"The threat of environmental crisis will be the 'international disaster key' that will unlock the New World Order." -- Mikhail Gorbachev, quoted in "A Special Report: The Wildlands Project Unleashes Its War On Mankind", by Marilyn Brannan, Associate Editor, Monetary & Economic Review, 1996, p. 5

you can thank the democrats for that one Georgey.

tl;dr: Bow to your corporate gods

Pretty smart there actually, George Carlin.

>>56921
And yet we're surprised when this board is a pit of ignorance. Dumbass couldn't even be bothered to read a few paragraphs.

For the past 18 years, since I was old enough to vote I would write in George Carlin except for 2008 I wrote in Penn & Teller.

RIP

>>56934
Because Republicans are in no way at all corrupted by foreign entities pulling for policies that aren't in the interest of the people, right?

Agree that this country is faggotry but Carlin was stating the obvious. Stop worshipping him, you queers.

>>56943
Hey... fuck you

>>56894

If only people cared what was going on. If only knowing what was going on was popular. If only the complexity of the situation could be broken down into soundbites like so much chum for the average person with an IQ of 100 or below to be able to digest. If only the people who did understand were brave enough to try and say it. If only they wouldn't be mocked, shunned and ridiculed. If only it wasn't true.

tl;dr

I'm glad George Carlin is dead. He built a career on attacking my religion and I didn't find him that funny, mainly because I disagreed with his liberal views. (Wanting to legalize pot doesn't make a liberal a libertarian.)

Pic related, a better comedian and probably a liberal, but he isn't a fucking douche about it.

>>57001

>I'm glad George Carlin is dead. He built a career on attacking my religion

ah, christians. way to turn the other cheek, faggot.

>"We want redistribution of all wealth" - Van Jones, Obama's (former) Environmental Advisor

Half a sentence. Out of context neocon propaganda bullshit detected.

>>57018

He was a douchebag, and you turn the cheek if they ask forgiveness. He never did. Guess that's why you think he's so badass.

>>56934
Not the Democrats.
The Progressives. Different, though most happen to be in the donkey party.

>>56968
and who are the ones who voted to that god awful stimulus package huh? You people whine and cry about corporate America yet your fucking party is the one who opted for the god damn stimulus package that are feeding the CEOs and Presidents of those companies our fucking money.

>>57020
I can't wait to hear what context that works in. Please enlighten me.

>>56934
>>56956
>bemoan lower pay, longer hours, reduced benefits, end of overtime, end of pension, destruction of social security
>libertarians think they aren't the ones trying to do this

>>57027

>and you turn the cheek if they ask forgiveness.

what. Jesus never said that. Lrn2 Bible

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.'[a] 39But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person. If someone strikes you on the right cheek, turn to him the other also. 40And if someone wants to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your cloak as well. - Matthew 5:38-40

faggot, you're ruining Christianity.

>>57036

srsly. the guy was an open communist, you know it and I know it. stop bullshitting.

>>57036

"We want redistribution of all wealth from government funded green jobs back into the community." - Van Jones, Obama's (former) Environmental Advisor

>>57037
Dumb commies think we can on one hand keep outsourcing jobs by the million, and on the other importing non-whites, and somehow wages will keep going up.

It is a deliberate plot by communist and big business to impoverish our people.

>>57031
Actually there are a shit ton of people on the left side of the spectrum who did not want that bailout under any circumstances.

"Right after Rosa Parks refused to give up her seat if the civil rights leaders had jumped out and said, 'OK now we want reparations for slavery, we want redistribution of all the wealth, and we want to legalize mixed marriages.' If we'd come out with a maximum program the very next day, they'd been laughed at. Instead they came out with a very minimum. 'We just want to integrate these buses.'

"But, inside that minimum demand was a very radical kernel that eventually meant that from 1964 to 1968 complete revolution was on the table for this country. And, I think that this green movement has to pursue those same steps and stages.

- Van Jones

>>57054
Shame they're suddenly so silent about it.

>>57057
van jones is a commie nigger.

Rosa Park was a paid NAACP activists.
Every single aspect of the "civil rights" movement was pushed by jew judges and jew lawyers.

All minimum wage laws do is push up unemployment among young negros.

>>57001
GTFO George Carlin owns any of your prophets.

He was a catholic himself, he saw through the bullshit and spoke out against the corruptive side of religion.

He's quite possibly the wisest man who ever lived, I've not heard anything wiser than the OP's pic (not in a long time anyway).

>>57037

More like George Carlin actually thought he was fighting the good fight by being a comedian.

>>57053
>Big Business
>Communists
DO YOU FUCKTARDS ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS SHIT?!

ITT: people finally realize corporations own this country and that their votes mean nothing

>>57053
>Dumb commies think we can on one hand keep outsourcing jobs by the million
>deliberate plot by communist and big business

Communists are free traders now?

yawn. angsty old fart is a nice gimmick for a comedian. He's said this a million times already.

>>57054

The left right paradigm is dead. Economically. They Red and the blues only wave their flags over moral or environmental issues. True Rebs and Dems are nothing but rabble. Easily excited propagandized rabble. If you associate your views with either of them or their corresponding celebrities or talking heads. You are nothing. No more than a drone. A cog in the machine that is destroying the western world.

You an enemy of all that is good in America.
You are the enemy of humanity.

I hate you.

I'd like to say the education system is to blame, but the reality of it is that people in the US have never really valued education. We deride people who are academically-inclined or educated, we praise the "self-made man" who made something of himself without the need for formal training, we call them nerds, book-worms. No, we don't value education, we don't value culture, we rejected everything the "old world" taught us - threw the baby out with the bath-water, so now all we have left is an obscene culture of self-indulgence, self-gratification and self-obsession.

We'd be off oil in a month if we wanted, if we really truly wanted. But instead we watch our blu-ray DVDs in front of our nice new black friday purchased plasma screen TV (pointing the finger squarely at myself here), maybe throw $10 at some charity so we can look ourselves in the mirror and not want to vomit from disgust.

But in the end, it all falls squarely on our shoulders.

The reason this country is going to shit is because you and I, we're not willing to give up our creature comforts, not willing to get off our asses and do something about it. Even this post is nothing more than verbal masturbation, pointing out our shortcomings without offering any real solution or action to take.

So maybe it's time we all started making some hard choices, and started taking a more active role in our own lives.

If you live in the suburbs, you're the problem. If you buy cheap food/goods, you're the problem. If you don't vote, you're the problem. If you don't take an active role in your community, you're the problem. No one is going to make your life better for you except for yourself.

>>57045
>We want redistribution of all wealth from government funded green jobs back into the community

lrn2linkwordstogetherinalogicalfashion

>We want a redistribution of all wealth
OH NOEZ COMMUNIST COMMUNIST STALIN WARNING BELLZ BLARING
>from government funded green jobs back into the community.
Wait. So they're only going to take money from things they themselves fund and put it back in the community.

Doesn't seem so bad.

Also >implying communism is bad

>He's quite possibly the wisest man who ever lived, I've not heard anything wiser than the OP's pic (not in a long time anyway).

Hope you're trolling. If so, 9.2 out of 10 on the Chad Warden Scale™.

>>57039
Then your religion is useless.

Stay put I am coming over to end you.

>>57092
>>I'd like to say the education system is to blame.
Fixed. Much shorter this way.

>>57031
You really think any true leftist would want to fucking use tax payer money to save a fucking financial institution? When will you people see that the whole Liberal vs Conservative war is just to keep you oblivious to the fact that they're the same shit?

>>57095
Samefag Christian is 100% butthurt

Why don't you go pray in church, boy? This is the wild west of the internet there is no room for you meek idiotic Christ lovers.

>>57082
That's how neo-liberalism works.
If anything ever goes wrong, disavow your own leadership and claim that they were somehow the secretly the other side the whole time so that you can channel resulting anger into a 'new' liberal movement.
That way nothing ever changes. See Reagen to Clinton back to Bush and now the Tea Parties.

>>57095
>>57095

I'm now eerily tempted ms paint George Carlin's head in such a way as to make it look like he is performing fellatio on Chad Warden.

The US will provide eastern europe oil and gas for a fee lower than than offered by Russians.
Without their trademark line "oh Ukraine didn't pay, so I'm shuting the flow for gas to them (which just so happens to include most of eastern europe as well).

>>57085
Nothing about big business is free trade.
These companies get big due to government "regulation" and other nonsense laws.

>>57129
You do realize neoliberalism means simply laissez faire capitalism?

>>57092

What do you suggest we do then, oh paragon of intellectuality?

>>57142
The only reason european gas prices are so high is because of taxes on it.

>>57142
What the hell's with Norway, you'd think they'd be down by Venezuela, is it all going to pay for their socialism?

>>57146
Stop pointing the fucking finger at the government all the time. All you're doing is mental gymnastics to try to block out the fact that the capitalist system is fucked up as well.

>>57106

>>57078
Comedians are permitted the most trust on a large scale. Anybody who trusts a politicain or political commentator is a fucking mongoloid, comedians have the freedom of talking about whatever they want so long as they get laughs and ticket sales.

George Carlin sold out the theatres but never his message, always a rebel, always said what he believed and people loved him for it. He has more balls than anyone in this thread (overwhelmingly likely) ever will.

ITT: Leftists confuse Capitalism with Corpratism. Right Wingers confuse Socialism with Communism.

Rinse and repeat. Ad nauseam.

Libertarians stand back and try to make the case that although those things are different, they are part of one big soup that is fucking us over.

Except for capitalism. Capitalism is the driving force behind the western world. It is always a good thing.

No one listens.

>>57159
Free trade is the natural order. Property laws are utterly essential for investment and through that, growth.

>>57166
The Great Khali can't save you, he is Indian and probably believes in more Gods than you can count.

>>57178
>the natural order
LOL no. It irritates me when people see economics as something godly or supernatural worthy of deification. I guess I should start praying 5 times a day towards Wall Street now?

>>57178
BUY AMERICAN. Seriously though fair trade which uk and other countries like to do is pretty snobish and unfair to all countries.

>>57181

>>57189
You can't destroy greed even if you are a communist nation.

>>57189
cont.
It's should be nothing more than a tool used to serve human needs. Humans don't serve it and it's every whims.

This thread makes me laugh.

It's easy for assholes like George Carlin to step back and get up on his high horse and angrily shout about how everyone is retarded except him, ONLY HE sees that everything sucks and there has to be CHANGE. He never says exactly how this change will be brought about, he just calls for change, for people to "wake up!" As if all the troubles of the world would just end right there, as if that shit is even possible and will ever happen.

No, you see, what Carlin was, was an idiot. A blustering populist moron of a comedian who thought he was smart because he thought everyone else was stupid. Who spat out "edgy" and "enlightened" rhetoric like this that you can find straight out of the mouth of any butthurt high schooler. Carlin was a faggot who took the easy way out, yelling loudly but ultimately pointlessly about everything but never lifting a god damn finger to do anything.

He probably knew it was all empty talk, but it's the empty talk jaded psuedointellectuals love to hear, as evidenced by this thread. You fags talk a good game, but there's a reason the current game has been in play so long and there's a reason Carlin couldn't, and didn't, do anything about it. Because he was nothing but another unfunny political comedian with a big mouth who thought he knew better than the rest of the world.

>>57189
You are a typical liberal communist who thinks free trade has something to do with massive businesses, and hundreds of thousands of seperate laws, and needing dozens of different government permissions to start a shop.
>>57192
You are a brainwashed idiot.

>>57198
But greed is not the defining nor should be the defining aspect of humanity. People shouldn't get their happiness at the expense of others, no matter what system it is.

>>57201

Sounds about right.

The way i see it is.. I am but one man and noone is going to change anything because i dont like it. The system has been set up fro day one (obviously) and has survived thus far, so why do people think we can change it now?

>>57205
Massive businesses are a goddamn byproduct of unregulated capitalism. And regulations and governments only exists to uphold and protect the capitalist order.

>>57206
>should this
>should that

Good luck with that.

At the expense of others? Trading is always mutually beneficial. True greed exists in any system.

>>57212
Your attitude is typical, but wrong. Why do anything at all? Ask this question too often and you may as well deliver by hand your tax dollars to the corrupt politicians, government officials, or basically anyone masquerading as a person that cares about you with a position of authority, because people are greedy and they want what you have.

If you haven't experienced the human behaviour of greed first hand I wish you good luck, kid. It may suprise you what people will do to others to get money, whether they need it, want it, or just don't want you having it.

Money is power, and the power should always lie with the people, unless you want to get fucked over, and the government should always serve the people, unless you really want a double dick fucking, cus freedom is harder to take back.

>>57094
Non-racist homosexual here

Communism is a horrible lie that results in starvation, slavery and zero human technological progress.
Anyone who doesn't know this deserves to be shot in the face.

>>57201
You are the idiot, you are the blustering moron who is complaining about him not providing a method for this change. He never implied change, really, he just wanted people to wake up.

Yes he is no revolutionary leader, he didn't write a manifesto like Marx, he was a fucking comedian and an observational one at that, his job is to observe not lead, complaining about that just unveils your idiocy. Not recognising his wisdom for this reason is simply foolish and I wish you the best of luck figuring out how fucked you are before it all ends.

>>57240

I meant more along the lines of "thats the way it is, deal with it". Im trying to take into account what you're said, though.

>>57212
your an idiot

monopolies are a product of government regulation

>>57264
>I get my wisdom from dead, unfunny comedians

lol good luck bro. Anon was spot on.

>>57280
http://capitalism.org/faq/monopolies.htm

>>57280
Monopolies are not exclusively the product of government regulation. Look at Carnegie Steel.

>>57264

His problem was that he was stating the obvious without any real resolution at the end of his rants.

In short, no one cares.

>>57266
Greater things have been done than overthrowing a government. I wouldn't say that a bloody coup is necessary, but in the future some kind of revolution is necessary, not to say inevitable cus saying that is just wishful, misanthropic thinking.

The government is now technically speaking corrupt. It's irrefutable that they take money from quite large companies to win favours. That is corruption in the 1st degree. Question is are you butthurt enough to do anything about it? Not until it effects you, right?

Libertarians are weak in this field, Libertarian revolution my ass.

>>57264

Wisdom is spitting out meaningless political rhetoric? The only people who could perceive this as "wise" are the discontent teenagers who buy into this kind of drivel. Let me tell you what actual wisdom is, actual wisdom is saying something but being able to back it up. Actual wisdom is THE FUCKING FOLLOW THROUGH. There are a lot of people who shout out the same bullshit populist "hey guys everything sucks we need to find the better way" claptrap Carlin is verbiously going on about. How many of them offer anything beyond a lot of asspained ranting? Where are their insight and answers then?

Who the fuck is George Carlin? He's a comedian. A comedian who rose to fame on trumped up social bullshit and not actual humor. And instead of just enjoying his ass backwards slide into irrelevancy he chose to let out a lot of ultimately pointless rage against "the big political machine taking advantage of you, the little man." That's nice, too bad everyone fucking already knows.

It's easy to be a critic when you're some rich famous faggot with everything you could ever want, telling people to vaguely "wake up." But if that was his entire message, then maybe Carlin would have been better off keeping his big fucking mouth shut. Some old asshole yelling "wake up people" doesn't mean jack shit, nigga.

>>57305
The resolution is, you are fucked, the man gave you the answer you just aren't happy with it.

Don't blame him for the conclusion, argue it by all means but you're just acting like he said nothing at all.

How do we fix everything? People say these things but they don't offer solutions. What can I do to help?

>>57305

>he was stating the obvious

If it was so obvious then why are the people not going out to washington and make the government actually afraid of its people and straighten up?

If it is so obvious why does no one give a fuck?

>>57317
>>57323

Yeah man because it's so easy, right?

Get a grip, Che.

>>57031
>implying I'm a democrat

God, it just shows how fucking STUPID you are thinking anyone who disagrees with you is a democrat.

>>57151
Yes.
Which is what everything I just mentioned supported. If you have a complicit media structure that will immediately rewrite every failure of unregulated capitalism to be the fault of big scary government, you can stop the public from ever demanding change.

>>57318

You can't do anything... all you can do is protect yourself... immigrate to a small european or asian country.

>>57031
>implying I'm a democrat

God, it just shows how fucking STUPID you are thinking anyone who disagrees with you is a democrat.

>>57201

All you did was attack Carlin's character and not his argument.

Ergo, you're a faggot.

>>57290

Name a single monopoly that hasn't been given direct government assistance either through funding or regulations or tarrifs.

You can't.

The term monopoly goes back to colonial times when the Monarch would give sole trading or resource gathering rights one one company in one area. The best example I can think of is the Hudson's bay company.

The Company's charter was granted in 1670 by King Charles II, to his "trusty and well-beloved cousin, Prince Rupert" and the Prince's associates, under the name The Governor and Company of Adventurers of England trading into Hudson's Bay. The purposes of the Company were to be "for the discovery of a new passage into the South Seas, for the finding of some trade in furs, minerals and other considerable commodities, and for Christianizing the Indians". The Charter granted the Adventurers "a monopoly of trade with plenary powers, executive and judicial, in and over all seas, straits, lands, etc. lying within the entrance of Hudson Straits, and the rivers entering them, not already occupied by an other English subject or other Christian power or state". In return, the Company must "yield and pay therefore two elks, and two black beavers", whenever his Majesty or his heirs should set foot in the territory.

>>57341

BUT BAAWWW I DONT WANT TO LEAVE MY LAND OF DRIVE THRU FAST FOOD AND MY 40 INCH PLASMA TV AND MY SUV!

I HEARD THOSE COUNTRIES DO CRAZY SHIT LIKE TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR EVEN BIKE/WALK TO WORK D:

HEY WHY DON'T YOU GUYS STOP FIGHTING AND COME UP WITH A SOLUTION.

>>57315
Wisdom is acquired through listening to others. Something you have not done, atleast with Carlin.

As a comedian his topics, time on stage, way he puts things across are very important for the act. it is an act he uses to get money. Shock horror. Getting too serious looses your audience, telling a one liner cancels out what you just said. Carlin trod that line as nimbly as any of his brand.

If you just want a joke comedian I say watch Jimmy Carr, he literally reads them off and they are nearly all funny. However if you want a guy to cut through the bullshit when the world around you seems crazy put a little of Carlin on and he'll set things straight.

The same could be said for Charlie Brooker, that's also his claim to fame, saying what the person thinks, he gets no flak for it infact he has several of his own shows. Do you hate him too, for simply doing people a service by making them laugh at their own humility?

>>57354
>I HEARD THOSE COUNTRIES DO CRAZY SHIT LIKE TAKE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION OR EVEN BIKE/WALK TO WORK D:
>implying people in the US don't do this.

>>57323

Because people suck and only do something when they are at the absolute bottom. You know this.

>>57343

He never said he was against his argument. I agree with Carlin on this one and I don't think he's funny either. Wrap your head around the fact that Carlin isn't the first or only person to think or say these things.

>>57323
Ask yourself that question, its the one Carlin asks. Don't shoot the messanger, blow up the post office.

>>57355

Because corporations continue to fund news media to propagate a false left-right paradigm that perpetuates this false belief of partisan politics when the real issue isn't left or right, because they're both backed by the same corporate entities in the end!

Once a strong minority or majority of people realize that main stream media is a fucking joke and that the issue is left vs right but the people vs the elite, we can create a solution. But we won't, because we're fucking stupid. This entire forum is self evident of this.

>>57343

Alright then, smartass. Did you know that a lot of people measure America's wealth and status in terms of "intangible assets?"

These are the things you cannot buy. Education. Training. Skills. Upward mobility. Individual freedom. Laws. Choice. The society that enables and supports all of this.

You might say "but wait America isn't that free or smart or good, America fucking sucks, George Carlin said so and I watch the news and people are so dumb and being taken advantage of!"

Did you know that the average Mexican, upon immigrating from Mexico to America, experiences a vastly improved standard of life? This isn't just because the money is worth more. No, they get promoted faster, their productivity goes up, they learn faster, it's really quite amazing. It's like taking a plant out into the sunlight. And it's all because of these intangible assets.

So while you and faggots like George Carlin sit back and criticize this country, bringing up some big invisible boogeyman who wants to rape you stupid because you're just a worthless cog in the gloom and doom machine, you have NO FUCKING IDEA how good you have it and how much you should appreciate what you have.

Is this country perfect? No. But George Carlin is a fucking stupid populist cockbag.

>>57353
>Name a single monopoly that hasn't been given direct government assistance either through funding or regulations or tarrifs.
Begging the question fallacy. Either the government provides a capitalist economic system which enables a monopoly or else the government is a monopoly that controls the economy.

>>57357

YOU NEED A FUCKING COMEDIAN FOR THIS SHIT?

>>57368
I like him because he had the balls to say things he meant. The "7 words you can't say on TV", given the context, was fucking badass, you would not have done it if you were in his position because, idk, you want to stay out of jail.

Never put down a free thinker because there are always more radical ones to take their place.

>>57380
>Either the government provides *for* a capitalist economic system

>>57374
nice circular argument you have there

>>57389
Laughter is the best medicine. Humility is a good thing some times. Arrogance, apathy, disaffection are not life styles, they are a coping measure, and they get very boring.

>>57264
What wisdom does "You're all morons everyone lies to you but me" tell? This is even ignoring the defeatism that boils down to "kill yourselves faggots as I have nothing better here to offer you".

>>57377

Sorry, can't hear you over the sound of how brainwashed you are.

Enjoy your Corporate Oligarchy.

>>57411
If all you live for is to win at life then you may as well. I'd rather know that this world is not free and just float about the system. Look like I'm straight but act as crooked as I need be.

>>57412
>boohoo I have to get a job

ITT: idiot 22 year old hipster fags who think they're smarter than george carlin

what a joke

>>57432
>Point

>Your Head

>>57436

It's the 22 year old hipster fags who think George Carlin was right, hipster fag.

>>57432
>you require a job to be disaffected

>>57446

I think "crying hipster" is the new Godwin's Law.

>>57436
Totally, its kind of gay I'm defending him but he was a wise man. He's seen it all, I doubt anyone ITT can match his years, young kids should always respect their elders, theres a reason for this, we'll all see why one day.

>>57446
This is the same IP as that Christfag earlier, he is working hard I must say. Shame his campaign is not alturistic but mere slander, samefaggotry and butthurtery.

>>57424
>I'd rather know that this world is not free and just float about the system.
This is not a new message, this is the message everyone screams when allowed to rant, something is always keeping someone down how and why are never stated. It's not wisdom it does not let you understand, it does not let you deal with this, it does nothing but make you give up. In a sense it's anti wisdom a small nugget that now defines your world and tells you to do nothing about it.

>>57475

Me? Tell me where I made a "christfag" post today.

I can think of one post that was religious. I am waiting.

IF HUMANS WANT TO TRULY BECOME GODS

THEY MUST FIRST BECOME ANTS

ANTOTHEOSIS

>>57457
>young kids should always respect their elders, theres a reason for this, we'll all see why one day.
Yes because we'll be old and want kids to listen to us for no other reason then we're older, we'll also say everything was better when we were young and young people are ruining the world too.

>>57380

I should have just used the implying arrow then.

>Implying there's monopolies that have existed with out direct government interference.

>Either the government provides a capitalist economic system which enables a monopoly or else the government is a monopoly that controls the economy.

Well the first monopolies were feudal creations, not capitalist like I have said. Under a true free market monopolies cannot exist. If they can't compete, they lose market share and shrink. It's just human nature. However government, which has the monopoly on human services will never shrink BECAUSE it has the keys to an infinite money supply under the current federal reserve system (whereas under the feudal system there was deus vult and huge armies to back up these corporations). It uses this magical power to prop up failing or corrupt companies which in turn lobby government prop up failing and corrupt politicians through lobbying.

The problem IS NOT capitalism. There is nothing evil about NATURAL monopolies (like the only guy who sells pepsi in the north pole because nobody can, will, or wants to. See I just answered the question I begged for.) they occur from time to time but exist in bubbles very briefly. That guy is capitalist, he takes risks and gives people what they want at a price they are willing to pay to better his own life.

The evil monopoly is not the capitalist one, it is the corporatist one. The one where the government comes in and makes laws, and regulations and gives money to failing corporations that do not provide any human services whatsoever and cannot compete. They do so for the sake of "jobs" and votes and "national security" and money into politicians pockets. The corruption of government by lobbyists is in fact a capitalist idea, but the commies were much much much better at abusing their power.

>>57482
I'd rather cope, for now. I am young and not approaching death. This helps me cope better. Understanding can wait.
>>57501
Maybe, maybe not. Are you wiser than you were when you were 4, or 10, or 17? I joke you probably aren't even 18 yet. So I will talk down to you, shhhh shsh shh shhh.

>>57504
I like you.

>>57437
Let my point sink in. You're free to do whatever you want, yet you choose to work because it's the best way to get what you want, just like everyone else. You whine about brainwashing and being constrained by reality. Meanwhile, no one gives a fuck you hipster garbage.

>>57525
I'd like to add I don't fully believe in anything. Would not believing in anything fully without reason be wisdom? No? But I also believe in things without reason. Just as well if I am wrong.

Unlike a computer I'm not 1 or 0, is that allowed is it too "corney", Mr Caulfield?

>>57092

I'll drink to that :)

ITT we realize the people who think Carlin's blowhard bullshit meant something are a bunch of emo teenage nihilists who think that everything's shit so they should never try.

>>57504
New person entering the thread here-

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I'm wondering how capitalism would work without the state.

Would everyone barter for everything? If money existed, it would have to be gold or barter or something similar, given that the society will not have someone powerful enough to issue and stand behind a centralized currency.

Who would administer contract law between trading entities if there were no courts?

Seems to me like it would be tough to prevent the biggest, strongest dudes getting all the stuff (hence a monopoly) without some kind of third party to administer the execution of contracts. But I really want you to prove me wrong.

>>57554
He was never a nihilist. He was a Catholic turned apatheist, politically anti-government. You are and likely always will exude liquid ignorance.

>>57585

You exude that you have no reading comprehension.

>>57525
>I'd rather cope, for now. I am young and not approaching death. This helps me cope better. Understanding can wait.
Coping just makes you try to cope more.

>>57504
>>Implying there's monopolies that have existed with out direct government interference.
Strawman. You claim monopolies can't exist under true free market conditions. Arguing that monopolies have existed under historical examples is not relevant to your claim.

>Well the first monopolies were feudal creations, not capitalist like I have said
Non-sequitur again.

>Under a true free market monopolies cannot exist.
Speculation. No government with a mind towards stability can allow a "true" free market to exist.

>However government, which has the monopoly on human services will never shrink BECAUSE it has the keys to an infinite money supply under the current federal reserve system
Non-sequitur again.

>There is nothing evil about NATURAL monopolies
Non-sequitur. There haven't been any claims of evil though anti-competitive and market limiting are obvious drawbacks to any monopoly. Plus double standards. First you say monopolies can't exist in a "true" free market and then say that "natural" monopolies aren't evil. If a "natural" monopoly isn't a monopoly in a "true" free market, what is it?

>The one where the government comes in and makes laws
Strawman and you truly are naive on governments.

>>57567
He's confusing himself because he's stuck on the notion of a "true" free market which isn't capable of existing. Either there is a government sponsored (and regulated) capitalist economy or there is a government controlled economy.

>>57585
Whether or not he is a nihilist does not matter, his message is easily interpreted as that of nihilism and other nihilist find validation in it.

Another problem with this capitalist shit is usury.

That shit should be illegal.

>>57613

So you are saying that what's going on right now is ideal?

>>57620

>>57567

No. You are naive about monetary policy and economic philosophy. Those aren't non sequiturs faggot. Nowhere in there did I imply COMPLETE non-governmental influence in market policies. But rather, I wished to explain the relationship between government playing favorites and the emergence monopolies. They change SPECIFIC laws to benefit SPECIFIC corporations which unbalances the market. Dear God, I hope you're trolling.

>>57559

I never said the state doesn't choose it's economy. But in the case of an ostensibly "capitalist" and "free market" economies, by definition the government should not interfere.

>>57628
For the corporations and politicians yes. If people truly followed Carlin's joke they effectively give up any chance of changing the situation.

ITT eeyore

>>57613
He wasn't all about religion, that's just one subject of many he had to debunk. He was not a nihilist, that would miss the mark completely, more so he did not give a fuck about God any more cus the conduit that reached out to him was fucked itself (the Catholic church is shit).

You look too far into things without seeing anything. Is that the reffrain your previous report cards?

By listening to Carlin's bullshit you effectively become a bigger sheep than the "sheep" he's bitching about.

What Carlin's shit comes down to is "America sucks because in the end you are all stupid and don't see that the people you think care, do not care. They just want you to like them so they can spin bullshit around your head and take you for a ride."

And in the end that's what Carlin is doing, spitting out pretty words you want to hear so that you will think he is a righteous and intelligent, informed dude when he is really just restating old, tired rhetoric, the kind that never goes anywhere or leads to anything.

You guys need to watch that episode of the Simpsons where Krusty the Clown realizes his humor is played out so he just starts calling everything bullshit. In the end all that stuff is still bullshit, and the clown is just a clown trying to talk big when he's just a fucking clown.

That's Carlin.

>>57648
I'm going to assume you mislinked since >>57567 did not mention non-sequiturs.

>You are naive about monetary policy and economic philosophy.
BAWWWWW? You can't make claims about government interventions and then cherry pick economics from the political.

>Those aren't non sequiturs faggot.
When you claim one thing is good and then harp on how things which aren't the same are bad are non-sequiturs at best strawmen at worst.

Still waiting for you explanation for vertical integration like Carnegie Steel.

>>57692

But the situation right now indeed DOES suck and people are blissfully ignorant of it.

>>57713

8/10 you got caps out of me. That is all.

>>57597
Exactly, so that's why I duck and dive. I could just sit about and think but I see that as wasted time. If it seems right I'll think about it and reach a conclusion blah blah... Life is a lot of coping and some understanding, I don't know if I know or don't know and I know you don't know for certain or at least that's what I know not what is true but I know these known unknowns or unknown knowns are irrelevant if I don't bother myself with them, but rest assured I'll move into unknown territory at random...

Actually it's quite hard to describe how I think, I'm sure the same goes for you, I'm digressing completely now and it is boring and has nothing to do with George Carlin.

I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies.

-Thomas Jefferson

>>57692
I think you look to far into this. Maybe the benefit of the doubt is something you should learn about, maybe even impliment in lieu of you uninformed rants.

>>57724
I await the next time you start spouting your unrealistic economic idealism.

>>57763

>I think you look to far into this. Maybe the benefit of the doubt is something you should learn about, maybe even impliment in lieu of you uninformed rants.

That's cool how you got ideologically smacked so hard you can't even spell right anymore, psuedointellectual boy. Don't worry, bro, this is an anonymous message board. When you slink away and this thread is gone no one has to remember how you couldn't actually come up with a single comeback to anything in this thread said against your hero, George Carlin.

>>57775

I think my ideas are realistic. Governments should not bail out banks or interfere in business. In my opinion it is a self feeding monster of corruption. There should be laws against governments assisting corporations that do not provide essential human services. The first corporations in America could only become incorporated if they provided an essential service of some sort, like building railroads for instance.

Government interference, or rather their ability to interfere while being corrupted by lobbyists, causes these mega corporations and monopolies to form and become entrenched. That is the point I was making.

There are several instances of that happening. Noam Chomsky wrote plenty of books and papers on the subject, if you care to look it up.

I don't believe most people find that illogical.

Then you talk about non-sequiturs like a high school debating coach, and only manage to confuse the issue.

Good day, Anon.

>>57856

There's a difference between bailing out banks and regulating corporations. Regulation prevents exploitation, bailing out doesn't.

>>57911

When corporations write the regulations, as is the case now, there is very little difference.

>>57911
Case in point, Canada.

Banks are heavily (by american standards) regulated.

What happened? America crashed, Canada declined because of the american crash, but not nearly so hard due to their banks not being ALLOWED to fuck around.

>>57919

>Write the regulations

You're saying corporations would pay to get regulated? What? How in the world does that make any sense?