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I'm playing the MW2 missions where you do this and pretending they're AK47/RPG carrying terrorists ready to kill my friendly convoy.

Fuck those terrists.

WHO BRINGS CAMERAS TO A GUN FIGHT?

Just remembers this when you think Muslims are the savage ones.

PICK UP THAT GUN

COME ON

Should'nya brought kids to a fight, there own fault!

>>549237
don't forget the fact they hate your freedom and mcdonald's and capitalism. serves them right.

that's what you get when you put kids that grown up on videogames into real killing machines.

>>549217

prophet muhammad was a fake.

crazy horse respect
it takes a man to kill those civis and wound those kids like that i hope hes alright

>>549264
Remember: Killing poor Afghans/Iraqis who probably will never actually even see American soil repeals freedom restricting government laws.

Every bullet puts you that much closer to utopia.

>>549269
No matter how fake you think He was, you would an absolute idiot to think that Descart or Kant, your prophets, were true prophets.

SHELLS OF FREEEEEEDOOMMM

its not our fault they didnt like the taste of FREEDOM

>>549282

>>549329
That is an excellent image of Muhammad.

if /new/ creates a meme that gets any more play than the constant faggots that reside here, i may just have to end myself.

>>549217
Lets see, an accidental killing of some people who work one of the most dangerous professions in the world (hey, lets take pictures of a group of insurgents in the middle of a combat zone!) and the accidental killing of two kids that you cant tell are even there unless you pause and zoom in pretty heavily, who again are in the wrong place, although not of their own fault (what were those people thinking, bringing children into the same area that just got mowed down with gunfire?). All with authorization under their ROE...

Versus niggers that strap bombs to their bodies, insert bombs into their bodies, or construct IEDs in order to kill both military and civillian personnel (with absolutely no distinction).

Yeahhhhh.

tl;dr: you've no idea what you're talking about.

>>549329
ALAAAAAAAAH! ;_;

>>549378
that's not allah.
also, the appropriate response here is, ALLAHU AKHBAR (*explode*)

>All with authorization under their ROE...
the authorization was given based on information provided by WSO or pilot. that information was clearly false.

>>549434

less bawwing and more Apocalypse now.

>>549367
This was a city full of civilians not wanting to kill anyone. many civilians had guns for self protection and openly carrying guns was not a sign of hostility.

Dumbass was looking for a reason to shoot these people and the van. If he wasn't so eager to open fire with an anti-tank cannon, he probably would have been able to tell that the camera was really just a camera.

those pilots are 2 idiot rednecks who wanted to satisfy their bloodlust.
"Come on, let us shoot" they are begging for it.
"Come on, buddy. All you gotta do is pick up a weapon." he didn't but they could finally shoot him a second time when the father with his 2 kids came to rescue him as he was obviously wounded...
those pilots are criminals

>>549493
wow, i literally just said that entire first line in another thread

also, what we saw was on board imaging, its very likely they had much clearer visual thru scopes

Why was it ok to shoot a random van when no one was armed but not ok to shoot the guy crawling around?

>>549493

>anti-tank cannon

actually, the Hughes M230 Chain Gun is for light armor/personnel only. it does not have the penetrating ability to go through tank armor.

So the gunner was lying to his superiors to shoot some random people?

Was the pilot also in on the deal?

this is what putting infinitely spawning enemies in call of duty does. Should put in some civilians to mix it up (ironically the training stages have civilians but the game doesn't.)

bump

the fuck is this and why should i care ?

Kind of a coincidence that a van was in the vicinity of insurgents. Arriving shortly after they were shot at to rescue the wounded.

>>549537
http://collateralmurder.com/
TROOPS FIGHTING FOR YOUR FREEDOMS.

>>549550
kind of a coincidence that a van is in a city

>>549573

more like a mostly vacant warzone....do you see any traffic in the area before the Van comes out of nowhere?

>>549550
Coincidence that a city with 7 million inhabitants would have people going places? ( http://www.happytellus.com/baghdad/iraq )

If I remember correctly, in part of the video there is a scene of a woman walking down a nearby sidewalk with a small child.

>>549611
It was a fucking residential area.

Wikileaks, FUCK YEAH. This is what makes the internet good.

>>549204

it's funny because that's where the kids were

I watched the entire 17 minute video. Those pilots followed procedure to the letter.

I'm not sure what the big deal is.

In any case, the western world is doomed. It seems killing in war is wrong now. .

>>549619

Well it's their fault for choosing to live in the middle of a battle.

ITT: children.

>>549662
>I watched the entire 17 minute video. Those pilots followed procedure to the letter.

Maybe that's why the Pentagon initially lied about the incident and later refused to release the video.

>>549675

what did they lie about and provide a source.

>>549677
http://www.collateralmurder.com/

>>549677
http://www.usf-iraq.com/?option=com_content&task=view&id=12818&Itemid=128

July 13, 2007

“There is no question that Coalition Forces were clearly engaged in combat operations against a hostile force,” said Lt. Col Scott Bleichwehl, spokesperson and public affairs officer for MND-B.

Now:
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/04/ap_firefight_video_040510/

A military investigation later concluded that what was thought to be an RPG was really a long-range photography lens; likewise, the camera looked like an AK47.

I like it when people say that they were armed when the military concluded that none were found.

>>549684

>can't find source to back up claim
>link back to video of incident

ZOMG THE WORLD CONDEMNS SOLDIERS FOR SHOOTING INNOCENT PEOPLE! THIS HAPPENS ONCE EVERY FEW MONTHS! THEY ARE ALL EVIL!

*insurgents blow up US embassy with families and innocent people inside*
*tumble weed rolls* no one condemns the insurgents

*insurgents blow up a whole market killing scores of innocent women, children, men and the elderly to get one person / one US soldier.
*sound of a pin hitting the floor*

i havent seen the whole footage, but if i were the pilot, from the air it'd look like the guys with cameras were holding weapons.
and in a crowd like that, theres no way to absolutely tell if one of them was NOT holding a weapon ready to shoot the helicopter down.
pilot followed ROE, thats all there is to it.

Look at that bitch fly -PATOOSH!-

IRAQ FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDOM !

They shouldn't have brought FREEDOM to a gunfight

I really cared about this story yesterday. I mean, I looked through that video and I was shocked and disgusted. As time rolled on, I began dozens of arguments over the whole affair. I had the idea in my mind that this was a terrible military conspiracy and that I had to help unravel, so I posted on, over and over. When I saw the story on cnn.com, I was excited, finally, this whole thing would come to an end and the people responsible would pay.

I read the article and realized that I became way too one-sided and single minded on the whole issue. I should of stepped back and looked at it from all angles, but I didn't. As the hours dragged on, I don't really give a shit anymore, my short attention-span has moved on.

I'm sorry everyone, it's just entrophy.

>>549697
the the blood of the innocents is on the hands of those that drafted the Rules of Engagement as well as the trigger happy pilot.

Plus, someone more familiar with the ROE said that based on the video, the pilot violated the ROE
http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0405/ret-intel-officer-us-shooting-violated-rules/

>>549689

First Report.

>The soldiers were getting shot at and did detain and/or kill actual insurgents regardless

>The incident is under investigation...

Second report:

>A military investigation later concluded...

>A gritty war video circulating on the Internet that shows U.S. troops firing repeatedly on a group of men — some of whom were unarmed —

>some of who were unarmed
>some unarmed

Where is the lie and cover-up?

>>549712
>should of
your argument is invalid.

>>549721
FUCK, I should have...should should have
should have should have have have should have

should've

>>549697
>ZOMG SOLDIERS, THAT I PAID TO HAVE TRAINED AND EQUIPPED, GOT TRIGGER HAPPY AND KILLED JOURNALISTS AND WOUNDED CHILDREN. GOD! THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!!

FIXED

>>549697

Not to mention as recent as months ago Germanfags called in an airstrike that killed more than 100 civilians in afghanistan and directly violated the TOE.

>>549747
We're not going to get on the Germany's case so long as there isn't suddenly a 24/7 railway transit from Afghanistan to Poland opening up.

>>549719
>Nine insurgents were killed in the ensuing firefight. One insurgent was wounded and two civilians were killed during the firefight.

The first report omits any reference to the two wounded children. Nothing mentioned about mistakenly shooting unarmed civilians arriving to help the wounded journalist. Their deaths are reported as insurgent deaths or not at all.

What about those people casually strolling before the building before the hellfire strike?

>>549769
>The two civilians were reported as employees for the Reuters news service.

I guess that clarifies it a bit.

>>549769

Like they automatically could recognize the driver of the van as a civilian without a proper investigation?

>>549747
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/09/07/AR2009090702224.html

>Meanwhile, prosecutors in Potsdam said they were considering whether to open a homicide investigation into the decision by a German military commander to order the airstrike by a U.S. fighter jet, which blew up two hijacked fuel trucks and a crowd of bystanders early Friday in the northern Afghan province of Kunduz.

Looks like Germany was taking care of it. Where is the critical investigation for our own war crimes?

>>549743
>ZOMG SOLDIERS, THAT THE GOVERNMENT PAID TO HAVE TRAINED AND EQUIPPED USING MONEY THEY ACQUIRED FROM ME THROUGH THREAT OF VIOLENCE, IMPRISONMENT AND OR DEAT, GOT TRIGGER HAPPY AND KILLED JOURNALISTS AND WOUNDED CHILDREN. GOD! THIS SHOULD NEVER HAPPEN!!! I HAVE BEEN MADE THE SUPPORTER OF MURDERERS AGAINST MY WILL.

>>549778
If that was truly in accordance with the ROE then they need to check them. The only thing they knew for sure was that a bunch of people with no weapons in sight appeared to help a wounded man.

>>549778
A man in a city stops to help a wounded civilian on the side of the road. Both men are unarmed and not taking any hostile actions.

He should have been assumed to be a civilian. We should not be in the business of shooting first and asking questions later.

>>549781
war crimes?
What war crimes?

>>549791
You and I are responsible for the actions that our government and its agents make.

I have never been threatened with violence or death for not paying taxes. Fines and imprisonment are the only punishments that I am aware of.

>>549802
>We should not be in the business of shooting first and asking questions later.
But our poor defenseless soldiers have nothing but a heavily armored helicopter! What are they supposed do when those "civilians" start throwing stones? They need to defend themselves!

ITT: we forget 911, oh wait, you're all a bunch of idiotic truthers anyway

>>549827
http://www.prosecutionofbush.com/

Plus shit like this where civilians targeted without a reason other than the pilot thought he could justify shooting them.

news flash! Watch the whole video. They confirm weapons on the bodies.
The "reporter" was trolling around with insurgents carrying AKs and RPGs

>>549842
lol wut?

stop trollin

>>549842
>we forget 911
NEVAR FORGET
...that Iraq had no connection to 9/11

>>549493
this is possibly the most ignorant statement ever seen on /new/ which puts it high in the running for most ignorant statement ever.

>>552243

>>549675
>false statements
the pentagon conducted an investigation and found that the situation was handled correctly. what more do you want?

>>552260
nigger, what?

lol what happened to the dude crawling around on the ground

it looks like the van backed right over him

>>552278

Because the Pentagon has never covered anything up before.

Teh sky calls to us...

>>552308
is that some sort of joke about his hat covering his eye?

>>552337

oh lawdy, you silly. Thats Pat Tillman, a former football star turned Army Ranger after 9/11. He was killed in a friendly fire incident, but the official report said he was killed by hostilities.

Though the initial reports, in the fog of war, are sometimes hard to decipher, the official investigation showed it was blue on blue; it took years for this to actually come to light. Gen. whathisnuts had to give an official apology to Congress over it.

>>552370
He died because he was an atheist, even geraldo rivera knows this as he backs up the claim there are no atheists in foxholes. It's probably because they get shot by the very men they're working with.