CHECK OUT MA RAWKET LAWNCHA

He's got an RPG!

AR PEE GEE!!!!!

Fucking prick
He's behind the building, we'll circle around and get next time

HOTEL TWO-SEX THIS IS CRAZY HORSE ONE-EIGHT REQUESTING PERMISSION TO ENGAGE

HERE I COME TO SAVE THE DAAAAAY

>>546796

CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV
CARL GUSTAV

>>546856
>>546863
*bump*

>>546856
>>546863
HURRY UP AND SHOOT WHAT ARE YOU DOING?

>>546888
NEGATIVE. WE CANNOT FIRE WITHOUT AUTHORIZATION

Theres a van! He's taking a wounded man! Permission to Engage!

CRAZY HORSE ONE EIGHT, HOTEL TWO SIX, YOU ARE CLEARED TO ENGAGE ALL HOSTILES

OSCAR MIKE!

STAY FRAAAAAAWSTY!

WHISKEY HOTEL!

>>546901

CLEARED TO ENGAGE

>>546920
ROGER THAT. LIGHT EM UP!

>>547019
OH DAMN, WE INJURED SOME CHILDREN

>>547235
THAT'S WHAT THEY GET FOR BEING IN A WARZONE

>>547235
>>547245

I agree completely! If those little retards didn't want to be injured, they should have been born in America like normal people!

I see a humvee, uh make that a bongo truck.

>>547262
I laughed then felt bad.

HOW DARE RANDOM CIVILIAN PARENTS BRING CHILDREN TO THE PLACE WHERE THEY LIVE.

>>547235

>implying this wasnt arabs bombing their own people

i guess all that bombing and shooting of your own countrymen is part of driving out the IMPERIALIST INVADERS

Pilots were too gun crazy, but who wouldn't be flying around in such a powerful craft, able to kill at distance with little threat of being shot at?

Watching the video, I can understand how he would see them having weapons. It's easy for us to say "that was completely obvious that they had cameras" while sitting in front of our PCs drinking soda, but they were just being cautious about their ground troops.

>>547323
>gun crazy, ask for permission

LOL wat

>>547342
it's required for RoE, they still are gun crazy

>>547342
>improperly identified targets
>permission to engage

>>547315
>live in iraq
>park van full of kids next to recently blown to shit carnage
>helicopters responsible for it are still in the air a mile away

WHAT COULD GO WRONG?

>>547342
dumbass lol

haha I love you guys.

Now, for a semi serious discussion, this is fucking war, this shit probably happens all the time

What really strikes me though, is the fact that they are not really under direct treat, yet they act with so little regard for human life, and worse, they laugh it. They are like kids eager to play with their guns, and the only reason why don't seem to care is because they are brown.

fuck it.

>>547323
They weren't necessarily worried about themselves. It was the other ground troops that they were there supporting.

You know, those Bradleys they were in communication with that showed up later.

>>547357
Maybe they couldn't fucking see the helicopter. Interesting thing about the video is that none of the people on the ground even look up at the helicopter's position.

Hey guys, if I drove a nazi van full of orphans to a WW2 no man's land, who's fault is it really?

you're in a warzone, you can't tell the helicopter TIME OUT I AM CIVILIAN LOL

Can anyone understand what the other voice is saying when the guy says "let me engage. Can I shoot. Roger. Break." its at around 9:26

there is a voice saying 'we need to stop that....lkdaflkg'

Its at a pivotal point, I feel it may be important

>>547392

Helicopters aren't exactly quiet machines.

But if that person was dumb enough to rush there with his kids in the van, he was probably dumb enough to ignore the sound of 2 Apache helicopters flying around in the distance.

Connecting 2 and 2 just wasn't their thing.

>>547400
the entire country is a warzone. what do you expect these people to do?

>>547393
Except this van had no markings on it to indicate it was any kind of threat. Even the driver didn't do anything threatening.

>>547411
that thing was a LONG ways away, and in a warzone with shots going off you don't even notice the helicopter

>>547414

>entire country is a warzone
>outraged when civilians are accidently killed

HURRRRRRRRRR

>>547414
Stay inside their fucking houses and stop parading outside in large groups with AK-47s.

Also stop firing at US troops but hey wut ya gona do

>>547411
I think it kind of changes when you hear Apaches from your house. Uhh, every day.
Odds are they were thinking "Oh, Apaches? Explosions? Just another average day in free Iraq."

>>547414
go elsewhere, liberals should give them everything

>>547418
>Except this van had no markings on it to indicate it was any kind of threat

HOW INCREDIBLY NAIVE

DO YOU UNDERSTAND HOW INSURGENTS WORK?

>>547414

At the very least, stay away from shit after it explodes.

If you watch the full video some idiots swarm a building after it gets hit by a hellfire missile, then they eat 2 more.

You would think living in a warzone, in 2007 after all that time, people would learn to be a little more concerned about their own safety.

>>547418

the van had no markings on it? do you think this is a war between two uniformed armies? are you actually being serious right now? if not then 10/10 i raged

nothing of value was lost, just another outlet for liberals to whine and bitch

it's war, and it's ugly, get over it

>HURF HURRRRR THE VAN DIDN'T HAVE THE TERRORIST EMBLEM ON IT THEREFORE IT WASN'T INVOLVED

omg u guys

>>547454
this

>>547424
>implying this was an accident and the pilot wasn't blatantly lieing

4:17

dear god that is probably the worst move that cameraman could have made

totally looks like hes aiming a rocket launcher

>>547471
>lieing
post invalidated

If we wanted to kill civilians Iraq would be empty right now.

>>547471
lying*

for fuck's sake, you make me sick

>>547474
Shut up faggot, those gunners should have landed and asked that man if it was a camera or not

>>547450
>>547455
>>547435
>SEEMINGLY UNARMED IRAQIS GATHERING THE WOUNDED? FUCK FIRE FIRE FIRE

One of the responsibilities that comes with invading a country is at least taking the time to determine who to shoot instead of killing off the population at a whim. Iraqis aren't going to exactly be grateful for the freedom we're bringing them if we shoot their civilians.

LOL BUT WHY WOULD BRING KID TO WAR

>>547493
sorry no time for that when you gotta FREE THE WORLD FROM TERRORISM

you see this shit

this is why there are people that are willing to kill themselves just to hurt americans

I wonder why people are ramming planes into your buildings.

>>547493
Cry me a fucking river. Their job is to kill fagit terrists. Those guys were terrists and those journalists were terrists also.

You shut the fuck up before I brand you a terrist.

>>547493

Yeah they probably shouldn't have wasted the van, but let one insurgent get away and you might have 10 dead friends tomorrow.

ROGER, WE GOT YOUR TURF
COME ON, BUDDY

>>547508

>>547508

Nigga we wouldn't be in this mess if they didn't show us how bad they were at flying in the first place.

>>547383
>dark stick object

OMG AK47 WITHOUT A DOUBT NO WAY IT COULD BE ANYTHING ELSE.

I thought the main point for neutralizing the van was because US ground troops were about to come in and you cant really have a van with god knows what in it puttering around a very clear warzone.

>>547530
Fucking idiot. Those were definitely AK-47s.

Go back to raping your cat.

>>547511
kill one civilian and you might have 10 more terrorists tomorrow

>>547538

WHOA YOU REALLY SPUN IT AROUND THERE

>>547538
Because this is happening in every encounter, rite?

>>547497
Implying kids living in the country = bringing kids to war

What are you retarded?

>>547530

Might not have been an AK on the left, but that was definitely an RPG on the right.

Show me one piece of recording equipment that looks like a long tube with a diamond-shaped part at the end of it.

Liberals constantly complain about environmental issues and the waste of natural resources, but a perfectly good van is destroyed and all they can talk about is the "innocent" "people" that happened to be destroyed along with it.

If this isn't evidence of the liberal double standard, I don't know what is.

>>547551
my dick

>>547549
HUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

>>547554

Your dick records things? AWESOME!

>>547546
>Implying Iraqis are just shrugging off US actions and that we're still fighting Saddam loyalists

>>547538
well not if you kill them

nothing of value was lost, just another outlet for liberals to whine and bitch

it's war, and it's ugly, get over it

nothing of value was lost, just another outlet for liberals to whine and bitch

it's war, and it's ugly, get over it

nothing of value was lost, just another outlet for liberals to whine and bitch

it's war, and it's ugly, get over it

nothing of value was lost, just another outlet for liberals to whine and bitch

it's war, and it's ugly, get over it

nothing of value was lost, just another outlet for liberals to whine and bitch

it's war, and it's ugly, get over it

>>547582
the mad is strong in you

>>547551
Collapse arms, lower grip.

>>547584
Don't fucking carry tripods in a warzone, tard.

God damn are all journalists this stupid?

>>547582
I hope your family gets mowed down by an Apache someday

>ITT we discover the cavalier attitudes towards killing civilians that partially gives an insurgency its power is not limited to the military.

>>547585
I guess don't drink sodas either; from an Apache view they look like grenades.

>>547587
shit happens

>>547551
>Dark stick object 2

LOL TOTAL RPG CAN'T BE ANYTHING ELSE.

Perhaps an expensive brand of tripod? You can't say that it is without a doubt an RPG. Seeing is not objective btw.

Seriously though, what kind of retarded insurgency stands in the middle of a courtyard to make phone calls and only brings 2 weapons to a fight? Perhaps I have an unrealistic sense of what people do in a war, but standing in an open area with "weapons" out sounds like a good way to lose.

Also can someone link a credible (non-military) news source that says they found weapons?

journalists know the risks involved with this, they could have avoided it

>>547605
Watch the video. There are absolutely men running around with AKs.

You can see the magazines at one point. Nothing else has that shape. Of course you're a retard and will say HURP DURP TRIPOD.

>>547582
Implying being in a war justifies the killing of civilians. The Nazis would agree.

>>547585
Implying ownership of a tripod justifies killing the person.

They sure looked like suspicious terrists alright! Standing out in the middle of the street in a large group! They were definitely planning a secret attack to kill our freedom!

well this story is being covered all around the world now. Only a matter of time before the government will have to make a statement.

Wikileaks 1
U.S. Government 0

>>547616
japan

firebombing

nigga

>>547613
I've seen it, twice. I just don't see it.

Anyway, do you have a credible (non-military) news source that indicates that weapons were found?

>>547551
>HUUURRRR DUUUURRR WHAT'S A TRIPOD!?

what is so special about this vid? there are dozens of videos of the same thing on theync. fuck i hope i'm never fired at by an apache, pleeeaaaase.

>>547584

lol no

>>547624

They'll just make the usual "Shit happens in a war, they got what was coming to them" excuse.

As for their covering up the story, they'll just cover up the fact that they covered it up, and pretend it never happened.

>>547636

What tripods do you own which have a diamond-shaped mount? That points upward when everything's collapsed?

You can't skimp on that shit, man. It's clearly visible.

GOD IS REAL
9/11 WAS AN INSIDE JOB
THESE WERE INNOCENT REPORTERS

>>547624
Or before they attempt to shut down wikileaks.

The government already said they think wikileaks has a mole in the DOD and consider them a threat.

>>547637
and more proof that /new/ doesn't even read the news and just posts bullshit all the time

>>547435
Do you understand how the fucking rules of engagement work!? If it's not a visible threat, you don't shoot it. Armed men were not leaping out of that truck and firing wildly into the air.

fuck people even the fucking military has ruled that there were no weapons

and even they knew this was bad THATS WHY THEY COVERED IT UP

bravo troops
a dozen less terrorists in the world

>>547651
At exactly what point is it visible?

>>547651
What are you the master of tripods?

The come in so many shapes and sizes, and it would make a metric asston of sense for a couple of photographers/journalists to have with them. Perhaps they have adjustable feet and shit. Either way there is little to no proof that it was undeniably an RPG and the chopper goons didn't just piss their pants and request to fire.

Check out these sweet tripods, guise.

careful OP, keep an eye out for helicopters

>>547664
via the Army Times
>A military investigation later concluded that what was thought to be an RPG was really a long-range photography lens; likewise, the camera looked like an AK47.

>>547667
>A dozen less cameramen in the world.

Fix'd dat for ya brah.

>>547679
and nothing of value was lost...

>>547671

I wouldn't be so sure if it didn't look EXACTLY like a goddamn RPG-7, size and everything.

The guy was carrying it by the trigger guard.

just watched the vid.
i can't believe that guy in the van tried to help terrorists and they used that child as a human shield.
Good job troops

>>547613
I see 2 people carrying what could be described as AKs, but they don't seem to have any magazines attached. At the point when the guy claims to see an RPG, there's what looks like a telephoto lense poking out from around a corner.

Great, shitty technology at the hands of trigger happy rednecks spouting fratboy-level banter to each other.

That's what we spend billions of dollars on. That's the face of America to the rest of the world.

>>547670

In the .gif, dood. >>547383

>>547690
>>547690
>>547690
>>547690
see
>>547678

HURF DURF MacGURF

>>547691

Ahaha, it's like I'm reading the youtube comments for the video.

>>547684
Contrary to your apparent belief, war reporters and photographers actually can have a large impact.

Consider the fact that Vietnam was so widely televised and the public opinion of it. People by and large don't enjoy war, they don't particularly enjoy watching innocents die, and they certainly don't enjoy watching their own troops die.

>>547679
lol keep watching Glenn Beck
>it's a conspiracy

Man, I'd love to stand my camera on that bitch!

>>547700

I hope we're referring to the same object, then.

If not, I want a RPG tripod.

>>547705
I enjoy war. I enjoy watching innocents die. I enjoy watching soldier die. Ergo, nothing of value was lost.

>>547716
Well, go die.

>>547702
>brofist

>>547717
But then everything of value would be lost!

>>547717
Nice job being trollbait dumbass.

Where the fuck are the children? Can someone give me the time when you see them

What kind of huge fags carry tripods and 30lb cameras around?

Uh, hello, it's called an IPHONE, lol!

TELESCOPIC CAMERAS CAN TAKE OUT BRADLEYS IN ONE HIT

>>547729
In the van, I think.

>>547742
Just remember to deploy the tripod for extra damage!

>>547700
>long range photography lens

Jesus christ that thing must have been like 4-5 feet long.

here we are, sitting at our computers drinking soda and eating hot cheetos, able to sit and re watch film and examine it further

THE CHOPPER PILOT AND GUNNER HOWEVER, HAD A DIFFERENT SITUATION

>>547729
Passenger side window. 2 bumps supposed to = kids

>>547751
I played MW and MW2 in the AC130!! I can make decisions on the fly too lmao

WHISKY TANGO WE HAVE A TERRORIST IN SIGHT WITH A RPG

>>547762
WAIT! Don't shoot! That's no RPG, it's a CAMERA!

>>547751
Yup, they panicked and did what they were trained to do. Shoot first and ask questions later.

No one really stands in the middle of a courtyard making phone calls with 2 weapons out. Perhaps I have an insane concept of war, but if I wanted to attack a convoy I would try not to get spotted before I get there.

>>547751

>THE CHOPPER PILOT AND GUNNER HOWEVER, HAD A DIFFERENT SITUATION

Yes, and so they should have been trained better. Anyone could fucking do what they are doing

>>547751
an RPG cannot hit an apache 1 mile away in the air.

they were under 0 threat.

additionally the fact that the group was just standing around (one on his cell) and not preparing an ambush shows there was time to assess the situation.

Americans are the real terrorists.

>>547751
Yeah, sitting ~500 meters outside of an RPG's self-detonation range in a highly mobile target with virtually zero chance of getting taken down.

>>547784

Apache pilots weren't in danger of attack, the Bradley crews were.

That's why they were in the air in the first place.

>>547787
And if they had a stinger somewhere unseen?

>>547768
This is what Americans thought they saw

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kxYmEYBLgBE

>>547787
IT'S CALLED OVERWATCH. It means they protect others.

>>547784
>1 mile

Since people have been throwing around the 4km stat, I'll use that.
4km = about 2.5 miles

>>547801
This is what I wish I saw.

>>547796
Well, hypothetically they could be hiding SAM sites in all their hospitals too, should we blow those up just in case?

ALLAHU AKBAR. seriously though, those big bulky news cameras + sling look uncannily like weapons in thermal Apache vision, I don't blame the pilots, rather I blame the journalists who thought it was a good idea to imbed themselves with AK wielding insurgents in a war zone. furthermore, I look down on bastards who think "hurr lets drive our kid filled van into an area that only 5 minutes ago was lit up by AP rounds, it's not like they're still hanging around"

No, the journalists were are fault. not the pilots

>>547816
Women in hijabs could be carrying explosives in their anuses. Perhaps we should rape them to find out.

>>547787
>>547784
>>547783

This. The soldiers were undisciplined, careless, poorly trained, and were incapable of properly assessing both their situation and their target.

And then the military covered up their own ineptitude and incompetency.

>>547819
I would like proof from a credible non-military source that guns were found.

>>547805
>protect others by killing civilians

>>547816
Absolutely. They should take the medical supplies first though, to lessen the costs of the war, even if minimally. Gotta be humane about that shit. Americans are suffering because of this war!

>>547805

Well they sure did a good job of that, didn't they? By god, those cameras could have stolen those brave America soldiers' souls!

ACTUAL RPG

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

>>547827
THEY'RE CALLED EYES MOTHERFUCKER. Watch the video for yourself.
>>547828
If it means protecting military assets, damn straight. Civilians need to stay off the streets there, it was the hottest zone in Iraq at the time of the video.

>>547828
Yeah, because Hiroshima and Nagasaki were military targets.

Fucking retard.

The two guys get out of the van and go directly to the wounded guy and carry him and the gunner says something like "They're collecting wounded and equipment" and asks for permission to engage.

remember how in war movies you're always supposed to hate the people who shoot medics

Why couldn't we just invade like a conquering nation and just destroy everyone?

We could have avoided all this bullshit. And we would have a shiny new shithole in the middle east to park our cars in.

>>547751
Yeah, because there was an incredible rush to target and shoot a bunch of people casually standing around and posing NO VISIBLE THREAT. The most threatening thing they did was cautiously peer around a corner with their camera.

Pic related. It's an RPG.

>>547841
It happened in 2007 fucknut, there should be proof that guns were found.

Seeing is not objective, it is subjective (basic philosophy). I'm not seeing RPGs and AK47s, even if you do.

>>547844
Implying Hiroshima or Nagisaki were a threat

>>547844
>hiroshima and nagasaki

and then there's this asshole.jpg

>>547859
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

>>547849
hate has nothing to do with it. it's just killing. kill whoever you're supposed to kill.

>>547854
EVIDENCE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D307Lp_idbk#t=0m30s

>>547805
And at what point did this group of people attack the ground troops or present any manner of hostile action?

>>547849
They weren't medics. Just idiot bystanders. They WERE collecting injured people, suspected insurgents. Collecting weapons after incidents like this are extremely common, it's not so outlandish to assume that was the next step.

>>547866
Suck a dick and go get proof.

>>547852
Don't forget every other major nation in the world 9 inches into our ass.
Just because we're the US doesn't mean we can pull a Nazi Germany and do whatever the fuck we want.

>>547849
>implying terrorists are medics

who fucking cares if you assholes keep seeing weapons

>A military investigation later concluded that what was thought to be an RPG was really a long-range photography lens; likewise, the camera looked like an AK47.

guess you guys know better than they people that decided that they needed to cover this up because it would look bad

Fuck you /new/
I fucking hate seeing innocent people die.

inb4 HURR LOOK WHERE YOU'RE AT, 4CHAN. Fuck you, and get back to /b/.

This whole board is an eyesore. Literally /b/ with news.

>>547859
see
>>547383
Dipshit.

>>547877
You are aware that this A-B snap logic is exactly what lead to these civilians getting shot, right?

>>547877
They were collecting people incorrectly identified as insugents by an impatient moron in a chopper.

>>547890

HURR DURR WELCOME TO 4CHAN

>>547892
Go find proof.

You see it, I don't. We can look at the clouds all day and see different things, doesn't mean it is anything until you get me proof that there were weapons found (by a credible non-military source).

Do it faggot. Go find proof.

>>547880
>Just because we're the US doesn't mean we can pull a Nazi Germany and do whatever the fuck we want.

We should.

Look what following the rules gets us.

10 years of occupation and people bitching every time we make a mistake.

Even if it meant ultimately ruining the US at least nobody could say we went out like bitches. Which is exactly what we're doing in Iraq right now.

>>547383
>tripod
>smaller tripod

>>547895
Yes, and now's there's a least 8-10 fewer insurgents in Iraq, at the cost of 2 "reporters". Nothing of value was lost.
>>547896
> Implying that's a rational thing to do after coming upon a pile of fresh corpses with helicopters circling in the air.

>>547888
thanks for the sourceless unverifiable quote. what are you going to pull out of your ass next?

>>547908

Don't forget Afghanistan, too.

Sand monkies can't even keep their own country together.

>>547912
> Blind.
> Willfully ignorant.

>>547913

And your credible (non-military) source (outside of the video) that they were insurgents is...

>>547913
>implying anybody knew the chopper was there.

The "insurgents" to totally fucking oblivious to it. What makes you think the guys with the van were enlightened?

>>547918
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/04/ap_firefight_video_040510/

check it out man even the army won't defend what happened unlike all the people sucking their cock itt

>>547913
>Implying seeing an Apache 2.5 miles away is easy.

I have talked a few friends in the army and one in the marines and they say this was not how you are supposed to act even when there was nearby gunfire and most of the guys they talked to agreed as well. The 'insurgents' were not acting like insurgents one bit, no ambush prep, no bomb burying, no scattering.

Why do people continue to go OH MAN YOU DONT KNOW WHAT IT IS LIKE when even people in the army are not backing these guys up?

>>547928
> Implying video taken directly from a helicopter
> gun-camera isn't a valid source.
Any report would be second-hand info. This is first-hand. What more could you POSSIBLY want?

>>547933

Well the people in the van were just not thinking straight.

They obviously knew shit went down because they showed up to help, but they didn't stop to think that maybe the people who just wasted all the others around the area weren't finished.

Worse yet, they had kids with them. What would you do if you saw the shit go down with your son or daughter in the back? Drive there and try to help or get the fuck out because you're in Iraq and it's dangerous enough without being in a helicopter's sights.

>>547890
it can't make you feel any more disgusted than listening to the inevitable talk radio and right-wing responses to this news.

because you know those people really believe what they're saying, or at least are saying it for their audiences who will believe and agree with it.

the most offensive, horrifying thing is that this happened in the first place. nothing we can say here can make any of that any worse. all we're trying to do is make sense of it. it can help to make sense of it by trolling. i can't explain exactly why.

>>547946
You mean bringing 2 weapons and standing in the middle of a courtyard to make a phone call isn't good tactics for taking out the US military?

>>547956
because dead sandniggerrs are hilarious. dur

>>547950
How about some confirmation that weapons were found at the scene?
The fucking gunner himself claimed that something like this was an RPG. You cannot properly identify any weapons at all on that video.

>>547950
Seeing is not objective (basic philosophy).

You can't sit there screaming it is guns when other people don't see the guns at all. What do you retards not understand about this?

Dark stick thing =/= guns

>>547950
Looking up at the stars and postulating that the earth was at the center of the universe is also first had observations, and boy were they wrong.


Just give it up you fucking retard.

>>547951
Shit like that happens all the time in dangerous areas. It's not uncommon.

>>547969
>>547970
lol hivemind

Status - [x] Told

>>547973

So why should we feel sorry for them when they get blown the fuck up?

Goddamn.

>>547981
Because it doesn't keep it from being a sad moment.

>>547969
So someone points a gun at you, you say, "It's not a gun! I don't see it, even if you do." Then you get shot. Maybe you didn't see it, but you still got your ass killed.

If YOU can't tel; the difference between a camera and a gun, then I suppose it's only a matter of time until you are removed from the gene pool for some other lack of survival instinct.

>this thread

Always stay frosty, new

>>547967
RPG!

>>547981
>Guy stops his car on a bridge about to be destroyed by rising flood waters to help someone stranded. Kids were in the car. They all got out ok. Guy is called a hero.

>Guy pulls up to the scene of a shooting in his van to help the wounded. Kids inside. Everyone dies. Guys is called a fucking idiot.

>>547986
Lol at grainy online videos.

Gun's look like sticks, wikileaks just trolled us all into a butthurt shitstorm.

PROBLEM, MEDIA?

>>547998
Um, no.

>>547986
I have no idea what you are trying to prove, but either way you have many people claiming to both see and not see guns.

The best way to solve this would be a credible non-military source claiming whether or not guns were found. Otherwise this shit is going to continue.

>>547998
Actually I'd call them both fucking idiots. The dumbshit in the first scenario should park his fucking car NOT ON THE BRIDGE so he isn't risking his kids' lives.

God forbid you stop to help someone.

Americans are so damned callous.

Only in America could helping your fellow man be seen as a bad thing.

It might shock you that in other parts of the world people will actually take on some risk to help others, even if the 'good guys' are the ones causing the risk.

>>547999
Looks like the military hasn't spent enough money upgrading the cameras.

>>547981
1 because we're not sociopaths
2 because the gov tried to hide their crimes from us

>>548019
Ants are ants when it comes to the US military.

The only thing the military would upgrade might be better skin tone detectors.

wasn't this the camera found at the scene

>Only in America could helping your fellow man be seen as a bad thing.

IN AMERICA WE KNOW TO LOOK OUT FOR #1
*is libertarian*
*has never donated to charity or volunteered*

>>548019
>>547999
Yeah, because the military records their onscreen tactical displays at 100% HD Quality. Obviously the pilots had a better view, saw actual weapons, and fired. Because YOU can't see weapons, doesn't mean they DIDN'T. If they say they did, then /discussion. Let them do their jobs. Don't like it? Protest against the war. Don't blame soldiers for killing people, I.E. doing their job.

>>548019
You missed the part about grainy online videos. Streamed, compressed, edited.

Feels good man

THIS
>>548033
>>548038

>>548033
hey faggot 548999 was agreeing with you

l2sarcasm

>>548033
they did not have guns dumbass

>A military investigation later concluded that what was thought to be an RPG was really a long-range photography lens; likewise, the camera looked like an AK47.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2010/04/ap_firefight_video_040510/

damn you stupid republicans are too quick to defend shit even the US military won't.

>>548047
>>548047
Even if that was true (which it isn't) it is a WHOLLY REASONABLE mistake to have made, as evidenced by the fact that no one can tell that those are cameras and any reasonable, objective observer thinks that's an AK-47 and an RPG.

>>548033
Is that why he claimed a telephoto lens was an RPG?

>>548033
Then where is the proof of the weapons?

If they 100% saw weapons, where are they? All of you people claiming they saw weapons, or they see weapons in the video from their chairs have so far failed to bring a non-biased source showing weapons.

Do it. It isn't an unreasonable request. You are connected to the fucking internet, give me proof there were weapons found with the journalists.

>>548055
>which it isn't
provide proof

MY GOD WHAT AN OUTRAGE

JOURNALISTS EVERYWHERE WOULD NEVER HURT A FLY OR ASSOCIATE WITH TERRORISTS

THEY ARE THE BEACONS OF MORALITY IN THIS HORRIBLE AWFUL WORLD WE LIVE IN

>>548061
Even if there weren't weapons it's a reasonable mistake to have made.

They sure as fuck look like an AK-47 and RPG to me. And they run behind a wall, peek out of a corner, and point something at a Humvee that the pilots only see for half-a-second.

I'd sure as fuck make that mistake. Just based on the footage, and not all the bullshit that you guys were fed before watching it, I'd have unloaded on them. Any reasonable person would have.

>>548061
>>548059
See video. Claim it doesn't exist again.

The military report that is constantly linked by the LibFags only says that the reporters were not carrying weapons, that their equipment LOOKED like weapons however. It said nothing of the others in the video.

eh joey I ain't feeling it could you maybe move her arm and that painting a little

yeah that's it ok take 2

>>548055
IT DOES NOT FUCKING MATTER!

They did NOTHING to confirm things in a zone with large numbers of civilians.

There was ZERO evidence of an ambush being setup, ZERO evidence of a bomb being buried, ZERO evidence they were scattering.

Fucking stupid people, it is idiots like you that make us soldiers look like shit to the rest of the world when even we won't defend this.

>>546796
LEMME SHOOT

>>548070
So you wouldn't reassess whether they actually had weapons at all beforing firing? Or you wouldn't confirm where the hostiles were before engaging.

Protip: The were on roofs.

>>548055
Seeing is not objective, meaning that two people can look at the same object and identify it as differing objects (this is because of numerous variables).

Why would it make an ounce of sense for insurgents to STAND IN THE MIDDLE OF AN OPEN COURTYARD, with only 2 guns, making phone calls. This isn't normal attack tactics, you generally try not to be seen before the attack.

>HURP DERP Don't mind us, we are just going to stand out here and announce our presence before we get to the attack.

Seriously, not typical "im being stealthy and am going to attack americans" behavior.

"hey guys, that sand nigger is carrying something"

"could be a gun, better kill em"

"squel piiiiiiggggy"

- what the world thinks of the US military when you idiots defend the actions of a few when even the military won't.

>>548077
>>548077
You're such a child. Confirm things? Should they have landed and politely asked if those guys were planning on attacking?

The apaches were in the air because the humvee patrol had already taken small arms and RPG fire. They see guys they think have AK-47's and an RPG moving towards the humvees. One of them then peeks around a wall, pointing an object directly at the previously attacked humvees.

The pilots OBVIOUSLY thought he was about to fire, considering they start screaming it at the guys in the humvees, and seconds later they kill them.

You're a fucking manchild. You have no concept of how war works. You are so fucking ignorant it's appalling.

>>548070

eh, shitty place and a shitty time for them to be carrying what could pass for rifles and RPGs from a mile away. they ducked and darted b/c of the firefight down the road(read the news stories, they mention troops on the ground taking fire), but yr right, it could easily be mistaken for insurgent action. tragic situation that didn't need coverup

>>548082
You're playing right into the terrorist hands!

>>548082
see
>>548091


Right, because YOU have soooooooo much experience with war in Iraq and Baghdad, you know precisely how insurgents behave, all the time. You, Mr. Amrchair Expert.

GODDAMNIT THEY ARE GOING TO GET AWAY!

THEY MIGHT EVEN TAKE HIM TO A HOSPITAL!

I WANT MY HIGH KILL SCORE!

DAMMIT WHERE IS THE FUCKING PERMISSION!

LET ME KILL THAT DAMN NIGGER AND THE VAN NIGGERS TOO!

>>548101

>is a solider who served in Iraq for 4 years

>knows damn well when to shoot and when not to shoot

I've seen kids shot because they wouldn't back down and were carrying cans/bottles that could contain grenades. That was horrible, but acceptable ROE.

I know damn well this is not how you are supposed to act. These guys just wanted to kill the people on the ground period.

>>548104
Yes, because allowing enemies who just tried to fire on you to escape is smart.

LOL @ "Asymmetric warfare"

>>548101
Oh I'm sorry, people standing out in the open making a phone call with two shadows that look like dark sticks obviously means they are insurgents going to attack the American convoy AND NOTHING else.

You make the military sound like idiots. Ever watch a game of paint ball? People normally don't consider standing out in the open making phone calls good tactics.

>implying muslims wouldn't love to see our children murdered too

>>548124
And I applaud and support my troops for being hardcore aggressive mother fuckers who keep me safe at night, unlike the faggot welfare queens such as yourself who probably have PTSD cause you shot some sandnigger kids who were threatening you and feel bad. Kill yourself, you're shaming the REAL military.

>>548091
>they start screaming it at the guys in the humvees, and seconds later they kill them.

Yeah, they sure were threatening the humvees, calmly talking in a group in the middle of an open courtyard. if the gunner had waited another second, the humvees may have been photographed, or verbally abused!

>>548128
The military is not stupid, the only people defending this are idiots who have never fought in a war at all. aka basement nerds who love war porn.

>>548126
yeah man, those guys standing around taking cell phone calls were really trying to scatter.

>>548128
Ohhhhhh, well, Mr. Armchair-General knows all about tactics because he played paintball once! He is now the confirmed expert on insurgent behavior, at all times. Nevermind that insurgents OFTEN stand out in the open with weapons because they know they can't be fired upon unless they actually point their weapons at someone.

(Hint: there's a reason the pilots don't fire on them until they think the guy is ponting the RPG at the humvee convoy)

HEY IRAQIS

STAY THE FUCK IN YOUR HOMES AND DO NOT YELL AT AMERICAN VEHICLES

IF YOU DO THIS YOU HAVE A 100% CHANCE OF SURVIVAL! AMAZING!

IN B4 WHINY FAGS OH TOO LATE

>>548143
>yeah man, those guys standing around taking cell phone calls were really trying to scatter.
You have absolutely no idea what part of the video I'm even talking about, do you?

>>548134
Actually they wouldn't. The Qur'an expressly forbids the killing of women, children and the elderly during war.

>>548135
>Implying poor Afghans/Iraqis could ever pose a statistically significant threat to you.

You have a higher chance of dying on the car ride to the airport than you do to terrorists.

>>548153
If that's true then why are children being used as human shields and suicide bombers?

ANSWER ME, ISLAMFAG

>>548135
>And I applaud and support my troops for being hardcore aggressive mother fuckers who keep me safe at night,

you say that now, but these are the kind of people who tend to turn on their own.

You stupid republicans want a civil war but guys like these will gun all of you down in a second.

>>548167
Civil war won't happen. You're just hurping and durping at the moon.

>>548167
> Implying I am a Republican.
I am a Democrat. ;) And no I don't want civil war. Just people like you to go away and stop watering down my military.

>>548172
>implying there are not people with lots of guns who actually want it to happen

>>548135
So, you're really afraid some Iraqi is going to come over and suicide bomb your house if we don't kill civilians?

>>548187
Civil war will not happen. You are just being extremely retarded now.

>>548161
Because religion isn't the problem. People are. People are capable of horrible fucking things. Charismatic individuals throughout history have twisted the teachings of many religions to suit their own agenda. The commanders of suicide bombers are no different.

>>548149
Yeah, stay in your house, 100% safe.

>>548190
They already destroyed my former workplace 9 years ago. Just sayin'

>>548199
Whatever. Muslims in that position would gladly kill women/children/old for GLORIOUS ALLAH

>>548213
Implying Iraqi's were responsible for 9/11

>>547988

is that from a game? source?

>>548143
>>548147

Oh give me a fucking break, you are both either incredibly thick, or attempting to troll me.

If you were going to ambush someone, wouldn't you hide first? Ever heard of the element of surprise? I hear some guy invented it a few years ago.

You are no more experts at this than I am, and the paintball example was in order to prove that standing in the middle of the battlefield isn't the best way to win a war. This is true and you know it.

Go play Modern Warface 2 or some other shit military game and attempt to survive in the middle of a clearing while calling a friend. Funfact: you won't.

>>548219
> Implying civilians weren't responsible for 9/11

>>548218
Excellent rebuttal, good sir.

>>546796
Successful troll is successful.

>>548248

/thread

>>548227
They weren't civilians. The were "enemy combattants"

>>548258
only because they were successful. Imagine if they weren't. O.o

>>548227
Same logic:
>Unibomber was caucasian
>Let's start killing caucasians, they all must be terrorists

>>548291
sounds good to me.