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    86 KB Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:23 No.537167  
    What evidence is there of this "extirmination"????

    The only thing that those "gas chambers" exterminated was typhous spreading lice....

    typhous killed millions of inmates as war conditions in bombed out Germany deteriorated...

    The "extirmination" myth originated in a Soviet propaganda report released after the war ended.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:24 No.537176
    How about millions of dead people?
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:25 No.537181
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    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:27 No.537203
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    Mmmm......
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:28 No.537212
    Testimonials from prisoners, Allied and German soldiers.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:29 No.537216
    >>537167

    They're in business reports of people selling crematoriums, German prison camp wardens sending pitching fits about the crematoriums not working as advertised. They're in German War Department memorandums detailing the gasketing of truck exhaust pipes to "improve the strangulating effect of the trucks" and in marching orders to round up Jews in Poland, Czechoslovakia, France, Finland, Belgium, Denmark.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:29 No.537220
    >>537167
    Go back to bed, Glenn Beck
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:30 No.537224
    >>537176
    >>537212
    hmmmmm

    How exactly does one "survive" a gas chamber????

    How do we account for these millions of "survivors?"...Doent that alone disprove the extirmination theory?......

    They survived their stay in an INTERNMENT camp...not an extirmination camp.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:36 No.537264
    obvioustrollisobvious.jpg
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:38 No.537279
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    >>537167
    there is no evidence of the holocaust. all the bones went into making marshmallows.

    *you are now aware*
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:40 No.537297
    Most of the halocaust deaths were from malnutrition and disease.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:43 No.537325
    >>537224
    This man has a point. No "Survivor" could have known about the gas chambers while being imprisoned. According to "them" nobody knew about the gas chambers, obviously to prevent revolts. But yet there are "survivors" that claim that they have seen the gas chambers. Either they survived the gas, which is impossible or they lie.
    However even "Them" Admit that the gas chambers was initially thought to be used for the lice. So the inmates that have seen the "gas chambers" knew that it was used to prevent a plague.
    So "survivors" are pretty much useless witnesses.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:44 No.537333
    Been to Ausschwitz...

    They did kill those jews

    And they did a hell of a good job. If you go there and see the actual chamber its not very big and they killed more then a million of them there.German efficiency FTW.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:46 No.537344
    >>537333
    >been to auschwitz

    Funny how everyone thinks he exactly knows what happened 70 years ago if he just visists the place.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:50 No.537369
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    >>537344

    Well you know there is a museum there and they show you around and tell what happened and even show the evidence you so desperately want.

    Pic related its the famous sign at the entrance to the living part
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:53 No.537378
    >>537344
    I don't think that many people want to see what the soldiers saw when they liberated those camps...
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:54 No.537380
    >>537369

    Oh btw those guys in the white pullovers where from israel. There was like 150 of them there covered in their flag crying and everything. That was annoying as hell. But it was almost like the place would still work...:)
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:54 No.537385
    >>537369
    I know..
    I've been to Bergen-Belsen.
    But it really is easy to just cover up things and create another thing. Especially that long ago. A guided tour isnt evidence for anything. They exactly know what to show you and what not.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:55 No.537389
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    Holocaust deniers are funny.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:56 No.537391
    Real? Fuck off you ignorant cunt.

    Troll? 3/10. Fuck off anyway.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:56 No.537393
    >>537378
    They saw dead and starving people. But they didnt know why or how they died.
    >> Anonymous 04/04/10(Sun)23:58 No.537404
    >>537391
    It's always me getting called ignorant. At the sametime my arguments and pleas to listen are completely ignored.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:01 No.537412
    >>537404
    >It's always me getting called ignorant.
    There might be a reason for that.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:01 No.537415
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    >>537385

    Been all over the place. Saw photos and all the usual stuff. Saying it didnt happen is stupid. Jew crying constantly about it is Bullshit. Its really the worst thing. I had german teachers in highschool. Now they really try to beat the guilt in you. I didnt hate jews before i went to high school, now i had enough. And murricans saying, thats why we fought the II WW like they do now, well........

    Pic related its the crematorium part right next to the gas chamber

    sorry for the bad quality i took it with my phone and it was dark
    >> SkiddieKript !!Vhv0R15E3US 04/05/10(Mon)00:01 No.537417
    Jews wouldn't need to prevent investigation of the "holocaust" if it were wholly true.

    Somethings obviously not right,
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:05 No.537440
    >>537415
    No it's not stupid. I'm not fully sure that the holocaust is a lie. However, i know that many things are made up. I am collecting evidence to completely understand what is true and what is made up.
    But, i say it again. A guided tour is NOT an evidence.
    It is 70 years ago. Every-slightest-thing that could be evidence against the holocaust is long gone. And maybe a few things were put there to make it look worse.
    I don't know if they told you the myth about soap made of humans but that is complete bullshit for example. Look it up. It is.
    >> SkiddieKript !!Vhv0R15E3US 04/05/10(Mon)00:07 No.537451
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    >>537417

    Adding to that though, its not particularly important either way.

    Dead jews shouldn't have any impact on the future of the White race.

    Whats done is done, its not our fucking problem and its certainly not something we should become masochistic over.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:08 No.537458
    >>537440

    >soap made of humans

    but.....but it was in Fight Club
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:12 No.537480
    >>537325


    The Nazis always kept a few dozen of the bigger Jews around to take care of the gas chanbers, to clean out and bury the bodies, etc.

    Those Jews knew about the gas chambers.

    They were usually rotated every few months, shot or gassed themselves while replacements were picked out of the next incoming shipment. Some camps used the same workers for years.

    Not surprisingly, these batches of workers would frequently revolt, and in one case (Sobibor) actually destroyed the camp.

    And the handful of these workers that survived are some of the witnesses we have to gas chambers.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:12 No.537485
    >>537451
    It is. Your right it Shouldnt. But in fact, it is.
    Only if we publically discover every, single, jewish lie all people will finally understand and become clear.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:15 No.537502
    >>537480

    Yeah but those "big" Jew "survivors" are just lying to make the Nazis seem like bad people. In reality the Jews weren't "suffering," they were living in resort-like conditions. The Nazis were actually their servants and if they messed up the Jews would gas them.

    Look it up.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:19 No.537525
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    >>537502

    Oh shi!!!
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:19 No.537526
    >>537480
    So? Well they couldnt have stayed in there for long, even if they were "Big" The gas stays in there for quite a long time.
    Of course there were revolts. I dont try to deny that anybody had a nice time there.
    >>537502
    Getting sarcastic, are we?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:22 No.537540
    >>537526
    >So? Well they couldnt have stayed in there for long, even if they were "Big"

    ??? I don't understand.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:22 No.537543
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    >>537526

    Do you have to ask? But on a serious note, I saw someone post here today or yesterday that the concentration camps were more like resorts than anything.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:24 No.537558
    >>537540
    * 30. How long does it take to ventilate an area after fumigation with Zyklon B?
    * Normally about 20 hours. The whole procedure is very complicated and dangerous. Gas masks must be used, and only trained technicians are employed.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:27 No.537579
    >>537558

    Huh? So? What does that have to do with anything?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:28 No.537586
    >>537579
    uh..he cant fucking clean the chamber, no matter how "big" he is. He'll fucking die!
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:31 No.537610
    >>537586

    If what you say in >>537558 is correct, they could clean the chamber after 20 hours, couldn't they?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:34 No.537630
    >>537610
    Well, yes but this would have been way too long to come up with the numbers of 6million mainly from 1943-1944.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:35 No.537638
    spoiler: nazi germany really was a murderous dictatorship
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:36 No.537644
    Also, i believe it took them even longer. Normally High chimneys are required to ventile the gas out, safely without harming everyone on the outside. But there is no high chimney.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:38 No.537651
    Give it about another 100 years and it'll fade into myths and legends
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:38 No.537652
    >>537638
    Spoiler: Only for a "little" minoritie. For everyone else times were good. Pre-war of course. But i'm not going to begin a discussion on who started the war. I'm too tired for this shit.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:39 No.537664
    >>537652

    everyone knows JEWS DID IT
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)00:57 No.537774
    >>537558

    Come to think of it, 20 hours doesn't make any sense. Ventilation isn't hard, you just have everyone move away and press the button to open the vents and windows.

    And if a few of them get sick and die because it's not properly ventilated, I doubt the Nazis cared.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:03 No.537829
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    >>537630

    Source?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:06 No.537850
    >>537774
    Oh yea, genius. You just need to press a button to venture. 21st century is great. Oh wait, it was 70 years ago? Too bad.
    The gas sets in the walls and dead bodys. You wont get it out so easy.
    Also chimneys.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:08 No.537864
    >>537630

    Not all of those 6 million were gassed. There's many many other ways people died, from being lined up and shot to being worked to death to malnourishment and disease. Also, there were 11 million murdered, not just the 6 million Jews.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:11 No.537881
    >>537864
    Not many were shot. Costs.
    Diseases. Yes, but according to "them" most were gassed. I do agree that most died of diseases. But that's hardly the nazis fault.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:12 No.537894
    >>537864
    Oh C'mon 11million..yea. Where did you pull these numbers, out of your ass?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:14 No.537907
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    >>537881

    >Implying keeping people in incredibly close proximity with little food, no medial care, and in awful conditions isn't the Nazis' fault.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:15 No.537910
    Watch as David Cole, a Jew, goes to Auschwitz and debunks Holocaust.

    Part1:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?
    docid=976870941610001004

    Part2:
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-441640420550012012&hl=en&emb=1
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:16 No.537917
    enjoy some jewish hospitality towards christians in Israel :3

    Raging Rabbies:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h4dPskzlqZ4

    BUSHALLAK UMBALALlaldsfgn:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OlT3ARuUSGc

    Aaaaaaand, the fucked up youngsters:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IX9Tk2TMA6Q
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:16 No.537920
    >>537167

    Well according to the OWN RECORDS from the Nazis, millions perished from Einsatzgruppen and other death squads running around and murdering.

    Millions more then were killed in camps, which according to record and historical estimates of capacities, indicate millions of Jews, Gypsies, Gays, Commies and Poles died.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:18 No.537929
    The holocaust did not happen. The history books are lying to you. Your history teacher was lying to you. The history channel was lying to you. There weren't even six million jews in germany at the time. There wasn't even a germany at the time -- germany was created in 1996.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:22 No.537958
    >>537881

    who's "they"? I never heard that. Gas Chambers are blamed for a million deaths, 1.5 at most.

    >most died of diseases. But that's hardly the nazis fault.

    How is it not? You shove people into unsanitary work camps, barely feed them, barely clothe them, force them to work themselves to death, and it's not their fault the inmates feel sick and died?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:31 No.538003
    >>537850

    They definitely had "press a big button to ventilate" (or more likely "pull a large lever".) Mechanical technology was already very advanced at that point, you don't need a computer to do it.

    >"gas sets into the walls"?

    WTF? It doesn't work that way.
    >> TheMinimalist !!If1lDuko2Xo 04/05/10(Mon)01:31 No.538007
    Visit a death camp. That is all the proof you need, trust me.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)01:31 No.538008
    >>537958
    It's ridiculous to say that 11million died of diseases. Especially knowing the fact that the nazis DID try to stop the diseases. Even "them" (everyone "pro"-holocaust) will tell you that this is true. Not even your jewish grandmother will believe that 11million are true, though bro. Germanys intention was to get the jews to move out to the USA or Israel. Search for "Judengesetze". if they planned to deport the jews anyway these laws would be useless. And many, MANY jews did go to the USA or Israel. And jews were really the main-enemy. Every commie went to the fight with the russians, there wasnt many gypsies, homosexuals were rare too.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)02:10 No.538252
    >>538008
    >MANY jews did go to the USA or Israel.

    Actually, the US didn't let in Jewish refugees, and the British who were on control of Israel (Palestine at the time) wouldn't let Jews in either. (But the did let in Arabs, ironically enough.)
    Jews did sneak in under the British blockade, though. But ti wasn't a huge amount, and the British were responsible for many Jews left in Eastern Europe to die at Nazi and Communist hands.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)02:55 No.538531
    >(But the did let in Arabs, ironically enough.
    >ironically? Pretending that the arab nations weren't our friends and loved us dearly. The DEATH TO AMERICA! DEATH TO THE WESTERN INFIDELS bullshit is an extremely recent development.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)02:57 No.538544
    >>538531

    They were certainly Britains' friends, as the British State Department took the Arabs side every time and screwed the Jews over at every opportunity.

    They were never the US' friend, unless you count our constant felletation of Saudi princes to insure a steady flow of oil.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)06:55 No.539334
    Silly OP, SIX MILLION, AND NOT ONE LESS!!!!!111
    >> Asshole And Swan Killer !ofC/MoKSRs 04/05/10(Mon)07:09 No.539361
    Jew Here.
    Holocaust deniers fascinate me. The Implication is that the Holocaust is some grand conspiracy, the greatest single act of deception in human history. Lets assume for a moment that it is true, that we made it all up? Doesn't that just make US the master race? In order to succeed at such an enormous task on such a grand scale we must be beyond geniuses head and shoulders above the rest of the world in organization, planning, discipline (to prevent the thousands and thousands of people who would be required to perpetrate the conspiracy from telling the truth) etc.

    So deniers: I issue you this challenge: Admit the Holocaust is real OR Admit that Jews are brilliant Geniuses far superior to yourselves in intellect.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:10 No.539366
    >>537929
    >Op just going from a holocaust denying piece of shit to complete bat-shit crazy if this is what he believes.

    Go play on the railway tracks you ignorant slime
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:13 No.539377
    >>539361
    >buy every media outlet there is
    >pretend to be smart
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:14 No.539381
    >>539361

    If it was so obviously true and provable then you wouldn't have to make laws against questioning it.
    >> Asshole And Swan Killer !ofC/MoKSRs 04/05/10(Mon)07:18 No.539395
    >>539381
    Im not saying it is true or provable. Im just saying that if the Holocaust never happened, all it proves is that Jews are even more awesome and brilliant that we already were.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:19 No.539397
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    >>539361

    JEW MASTER RACE ROLLS AGAIN 8)
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:20 No.539401
    Holocaust deniers

    -never saw the films
    -never spoke with the witnesses
    -never knew human love
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:21 No.539403
    >>539381

    The laws are to stop propaganda-generating fascists such as the one troll-OP is immitating from wiping it from the records and trying to make nazi fascism acceptable again
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:24 No.539411
    So...where did these millions of people -go- then?

    There are meticulous records of the number of inmates admitted into both internment and execution camps. There are also meticulous records of the number of Jews taken from those camps.

    Did the difference just disappear? Did they escape, only to never be noticed by a German Census since? Did they walk to Israel?

    People died. Understand that.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:26 No.539418
    >>539395
    Everybody always knew that Jews were masters of deception.

    People often quote Hitler on "the big lie" as if to imply that Hitler was calling himself a liar. What they never point out is that Hitler was talking about the Jews when he wrote about the big lie.

    The Holocaust is just a "big lie" that everybody has faith in despite there being no forensic or empirical evidence to support it (and in fact all forensic evidence gathered as disproved the Holocaust and gotten people imprisoned for gathering it).
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:29 No.539423
    >>539411
    Except what you said is not true at all. It's just an assumption you are making based on your _faith_ in the Holocaust.

    In reality the best estimates of Jewish casualties in the camps is in the hundreds of thousands, and the bulk of those died from disease and hunger--not execution.
    >> Asshole And Swan Killer !ofC/MoKSRs 04/05/10(Mon)07:33 No.539435
    >>539418
    so you admit then that jews are awesome geniuses? The sheer logistics involved in creating such a compelling narrative, and backing it up with so many secretly built camps built right under the noses of the Nazis, in Germany! is enormous, not to mention all of the fabulous made up fictional accounts with such stunning detail.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:36 No.539447
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    >>538007
    Yes I agree, visit a "death camp" (so-called that despite there being many Jewish survivors who had been to four of five "death" camps... without dying) and do some forensic testing.

    Bring your home chemisty kit and you can marvel at Hitler's magical gas chambers which were never exposed to any cyanide gas.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:40 No.539457
    >>539423

    If you had source you'd have posted it.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:43 No.539464
    I don't get why people who think just because something says "death camp" means that there going to kill everyone.


    for fuck sake those camps were gun by the german government, and no government is without inefficiency.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:44 No.539467
    >>539457
    You've misplaced the burden of proof.

    It is on the person who claimed there is documentation showing millions of deaths to provide evidence for his claims, not the skeptics to provide evidence he is wrong.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:47 No.539478
    >>539467

    *points*

    >In reality the best estimates of Jewish casualties in the camps is in the hundreds of thousands, and the bulk of those died from disease and hunger--not execution.

    Someone say burden of proof?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:47 No.539480
    >>539435
    Jews have higher average IQs than any other group of people on the planet. It's no coincidence that they have such disproportionate power in the media and politics when compared to their population size.

    >backing it up with so many secretly built camps built right under the noses of the Nazis, in Germany!

    See you were trying to make a strawman here but you just revealed how ignorant you are on the topic of the Holocaust.

    Nobody claims there were any death camps in Germany anymore. All the camps which are now claimed to be for extermination were outside German borders.

    And by your logic, since the existence of camps alone proves the extermination plot, the USA exterminated millions of Japanese in gas chambers during WW2. The internment camps for Japanese prove it.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:49 No.539484
    >>539478
    Yes, I did. You are misplacing it.

    The burden of proof is on the person who claimed there is documentation showing millions of deaths. I am more than willing to see this documentation you spoke of so feel free to provide it, thanks.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:52 No.539494
    Wow at first I thought this was a troll thread, but plenty of geniuinely delusional morons have crawled out of the woodwork.
    >> Asshole And Swan Killer !ofC/MoKSRs 04/05/10(Mon)07:53 No.539502
    >>539480
    never claimed they were death camps in germany, try reading.

    So now that you freely admit that jews are smarter and better than you, Just 1 question:

    UMAD?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:53 No.539503
    >>539484

    You said words. Back up words. Or you have no credit.
    >> A Factual Appraisal Of The 'Holocaust' By The Red Cross Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:54 No.539506
    There is one survey of the Jewish question in Europe during World War Two and the conditions of Germany's concentration camps which is almost unique in its honesty and objectivity, the three-volume Report of the International Committee of the Red Cross on its Activities during the Second World War, Geneva, 1948.

    This comprehensive account from an entirely neutral source incorporated and expanded the findings of two previous works: Documents sur l'activité du CICR en faveur des civils détenus dans les camps de concentration en Allemagne 1939-1945 (Geneva, 1946), and Inter Arma Caritas: the Work of the ICRC during the Second World War (Geneva, 1947). The team of authors, headed by Frédéric Siordet, explained in the opening pages of the Report that their object, in the tradition of the Red Cross, had been strict political neutrality, and herein lies its great value.

    The ICRC successfully applied the 1929 Geneva military convention in order to gain access to civilian internees held in Central and Western Europe by the Germany authorities. By contrast, the ICRC was unable to gain any access to the Soviet Union, which had failed to ratify the Convention. The millions of civilian and military internees held in the USSR, whose conditions were known to be by far the worst, were completely cut off from any international contact or supervision.

    http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:55 No.539512
    >>539447
    hmmm 1.2 mg per kg after 70 years seems fairly significant
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:56 No.539513
    >>539480

    Ashkenazi Jews are, not all Jews, Ashkenazi Jews are of European decent, some Jews are of Semite decent
    >> No Evidence Of Genocide Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:56 No.539514
    One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ... In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).

    Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned Jews they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming inevitable.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:57 No.539516
    >>539514
    >So far as the genuine mortality rate is concerned, the Report points out that most of the Jewish doctors from the camps were being used to combat typhus on the eastern front, so that they were unavailable when the typhus epidemics of 1945 broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204 ff) - Incidentally, it is frequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report makes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, but installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by the delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged" (Vol. III, p. 594).
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)07:57 No.539517
    Holocaust denial consists of claims that the genocide of Jews during World War II—usually referred to as the Holocaust[1]—did not occur at all, or that it did not happen in the manner or to the extent historically recognized. Key elements of these claims are the rejection of any of the following: that the German Nazi government had a policy of deliberately targeting Jews for extermination as a people; that more than five million Jews[1] were systematically killed by the Nazis and their allies; and that genocide was carried out at extermination camps using tools of mass murder, such as gas chambers.[2][3]

    Holocaust deniers generally do not accept the term "denial" as an appropriate description of their point of view, and use the term Holocaust revisionism instead.[4] Scholars use the term "denial" to differentiate Holocaust deniers from historical revisionists, who use established historical methodologies.[5] The methodologies of Holocaust deniers are criticized as based on a predetermined conclusion that ignores extensive historical evidence to the contrary.[6]

    Most Holocaust denial claims imply, or openly state, that the Holocaust is a hoax arising out of a deliberate Jewish conspiracy to advance the interest of Jews at the expense of other peoples.[7] For this reason, Holocaust denial is generally considered to be an antisemitic[8] conspiracy theory.[9]
    >> IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? 04/05/10(Mon)07:59 No.539521
    IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS? IS THIS FUCKING NEWS?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:00 No.539525
    >>539512
    It's not.

    The delousing chambers are just as old and show concentrations several orders of magnitude higher.

    And that is why Germar Rudolf is in prison right now for "holocaust denial". The chemical evidence contradicts the confessions acquired by torture and "eyewitness" accounts of events.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:01 No.539531
    n a letter dated 1919 Hitler mentions that part of the ultimate aim of a strong national government must "unshakably be the removal of the Jews".[7][8]

    In 1922 Hitler told Major Josef Hell (a journalist at the time):

    Once I really am in power, my first and foremost task will be the annihilation of the Jews. As soon as I have the power to do so, I will have gallows built in rows—at the Marienplatz in Munich, for example—as many as traffic allows. Then the Jews will be hanged indiscriminately, and they will remain hanging until they stink; they will hang there as long as the principles of hygiene permit. As soon as they have been untied, the next batch will be strung up, and so on down the line, until the last Jew in Munich has been exterminated. Other cities will follow suit, precisely in this fashion, until all Germany has been completely cleansed of Jews.[9]

    On 21 January 1939 Hitler spoke with František Chvalkovský and said:

    We are going to destroy the Jews. They are not going to get away with what they did on 9 November 1918. The day of reckoning has come.[10]

    On 30 January at the Sports Palace in Berlin, Hitler told the crowd:

    And we say that the war will not end as the Jews imagine it will, namely with the uprooting of the Aryans, but the result of this war will be the complete annihilation of the Jews.[11]

    In Mein Kampf, Hitler argued that a war against Jews would have saved Germany from losing World War 1:[12]

    If at the beginning of the war and during the war twelve or fifteen thousand of these Hebrew corrupters of the people had been held under poison gas, as happened to hundreds of thousands of our very best German workers in the field, the sacrifice of millions at the front would not have been in vain.[13]
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:02 No.539537
    In the following widely cited speech made on January 30, 1939, Hitler says to the Reichstag:

    Today I want to be a prophet once more: if international Jewish financiers inside and outside Europe again succeed in plunging the nations into a world war, the result will not be the Bolshevization of the earth and with it the victory of Jewry, but the annihilation of the Jewish race in Europe![14][15]

    Hitler's choice of language in German in the final phrase of this passage is "die Vernichtung der jüdischen Rasse in Europa" - unambiguously meaning "the extermination [or annihilation] of the Jewish race in Europe."
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:02 No.539540
    >>539503
    Sup, I can't help but notice your double standard. Why aren't you insisting on proof of the claims made by holocaust true-believers?

    They made the claims first, that fellow was simply contradicting them. The burden of proof seems as if it should be on the person who made the primary claim (and as of yet has provided not a shred of evidence in support of it), not the person who took issue with that claim and expressed skepticism towards it.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:03 No.539543
    All I know is that I'm related to Adolf Eichmann, and that's fucking badass
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:04 No.539553
    >>539502
    >>539502
    Then what relevance to your argument were the German camps you referred to?

    As I pointed out, by your logic it is "proven" that Americans exterminated six million Japanese in gas chambers because they had internment camps where they detained Japanese citizens during WW2.
    >> Asshole And Swan Killer !ofC/MoKSRs 04/05/10(Mon)08:06 No.539561
    >>539553
    Wow you are retarded. Im saying that IF there WAS a conspiracy, then they would have had to build camps during the war, and then starve themselves so that when the allies found them, they would be there.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:18 No.539605
    >>539525
    ah, but those are higher concentrations of iron cyanide, not cyanide. i have no idea how the concentrations of either of those react to years of open air, or what concentration of cyanide is high enough to indicate previous use and im sure most people here don't, so your numbers don't provide us with much
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:19 No.539608
    >>539561
    How so? That doesn't make any sense.

    Your attempt at a strawman is so bizarre and convoluted I doubt you will get anyone to take it seriously.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:24 No.539614
    >>539608

    Not that guy, but it made sense to me.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:27 No.539623
    Auschwitz concentration camp

    1.1 million jews "exterminated"

    Operational from May 1940–January 1945 ~ appx 1700 days

    No: of hours to cremate/ disintegrate a body in a MODERN crematorium : 2 hours

    1 oven = 12 bodies/day if run 24/7 (does not include time for cleaning the ashes)

    1700 days = 20400 jews

    Total no. of oven to fulfill this : 54

    Is there 54 oven?
    No.

    Is there enough fuel to do this?
    No.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:30 No.539636
    >>539623
    so then the government workers needed to cook the books on that, shooting jews or burning jews does not matter then the underlining target is getting rid of the jews.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:38 No.539665
    >>539636
    Where are the mass graves?

    FFS shut up
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:46 No.539689
    >>539665
    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/19053913/
    durr
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:52 No.539709
    >>539689
    Sounds familiar. Remind you of the Katyn Massacre much?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:56 No.539730
    >>539709
    that while interesting, is irrelevant since Katyn and Gvozdavka are far apart.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:58 No.539731
    >>539689
    source: the jews
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:58 No.539732
    >>539636
    But the Zionist wanted to get rid of the Jews too. Most of the Jews killed during WW2 were those poor slavsky Jews that were deemed by their rich and eilitist jews in the west as worthless being and useless eaters which is why they refused to pay for their deportation into the west
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)08:58 No.539733
    >>539730
    Both were occupied by the USSR.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:00 No.539738
    >>537167
    Why would the soviets make fun of something like the holocaust? The fuckers killed 7 million people like it was nothing over a year.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:07 No.539764
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    >>539689
    >remains of thousands of Jews

    Thousands? That proves millions died in gas chambers right?

    Are we going to get to see some sort of forensic investigation into how they died? Was it typhus, starvation, or natural causes?

    See the problem with the whole holocaust legend is that it always relies on the emotional reaction of the person being propagandized and never presents a factual, logical, or rational argument. It's proponents speak of "mass graves" and show photos of piles of corpses which have clearly starved or died of disease, and then declare that this is summarily proof of every accusation against Nazi Germany no matter how ridiculous or even technically impossible it is.

    But whenever someone forensically examines the holocaust it ends up contradicting the official tale. Gas chambers have been shown to never be exposed to gas, Auschwitz has revised their death count downwards after it was shown to be mathematically impossible for that many deaths, the "human soap" myth was debunked by genetic testing showing no human content in any of the soap that has been tested.

    Here is a picture of a kid in a concentration camp during the Boer war. It is very sad, but it does not prove that the British tried to exterminate the Boers in gas chambers. It is a typical example of what happens when governments round up large populations of people and detain them in camps during war.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:10 No.539776
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    I'd go back to war just to kill all the Gnatzis I could, I really would.

    >> Zionists

    There is no such thing you f-a-g-g-o-t
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:25 No.539817
    I like how all the deniers in this thread still accept that many many jews were killed and persecuted and locked up for no valid reason by the Nazis, and somehow they believe by claiming that it was less than 6 million, or that not all died in gas chambers, it was somehow absolutely fine.

    Jews were persecuted, Hitler vowed death to the entire genepool/religion, many thousands died because of this, through hunger/overwork/gas/ovens/execution.

    It doesnt matter the method, they all died because of him, and the ones that survived the period had their lives/loved ones taken away from them. I'm pretty sure all the jews in the country didnt mass-arrange their parents/siblings/friends to vanish to make themselves look better.

    Use your brains you simpletons
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:29 No.539832
    >>539817

    My grandparents (Polish) were interned in a "nazi death camp" and survived through WW2. The polish people do not use this a justification for all sorts of bullshit, and the way in which the holocaust story has been forced down our throats while demanding that any investigation to the contrary be made illegal is cause for concern. Any logically minded individual would realise this instead of following the trend simply because many other people believe in the telling of events.

    Tribalism is the key enemy of science and truth.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:29 No.539833
    >>539817

    OUR FOUNDING FATHERS ENSLAVED JUST AS MANY BLACKS AGAINST THEIR WILL FOR FUCKING CENTURIES AND FORCED TO WORK IN HORRID CONDITIONS. But they are considered "patriots" and "heroes", are they not?

    History is written by the victors.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:31 No.539836
    How did 6 million jews die in WW2 when there weren't even 6 million jews in Europe?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:36 No.539848
    >>539833

    I think America is just as retarded for the same reason. America equally (as this thread proves) blames Jews for their problems, as well as black people, poor people, fat people, women, other countries, etc. etc.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:42 No.539863
    ITT: deniers set up terrible, irrelevant strawmen to detract from the concrete proof of holocaust genocide
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:47 No.539874
    >>539863
    I'd be interested in hearing about some of this 'concrete' evidence.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:54 No.539890
    >>539764
    you sir keep jumping the gun here.

    first you claim that it was impossible to kill million something jews using the oven method

    then I said that the government workers in those camps must have cooked the books and used the TOTAL(gas + shooting) amount of deaths in their reports.

    you claim in your own words "where are the mass graves ffs shut up"

    I give you a report saying where ONE mass grave was and now your trying to twist my words against me when I simply provided my evidence that government works cook books

    this is not hard to understand.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:55 No.539896
    >>539874

    Welcome to the amazing world of sarcasm.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:55 No.539898
    Hey holocaust deniers: any of you think Global Warming is a conspiracy too?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:56 No.539901
    >>539890

    Welcome to modern argumentation.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)09:58 No.539906
    Holodomor was way worse. Lets talk about that for a change.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:05 No.539925
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    >>539361
    But even Jews where fooled. So that doesn't make JEWS the ultimate race of intellectual deception, but Zionists, who are alleged to have carried out all things Holocaust, pre and post to the act.

    :)
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:05 No.539927
    Why do people here claim that is it an enormous logistical effort to claim that jews were gassed?
    It's easy as fuck.. soldiers that liberated the camps just saw starving/dead people. After that the camp is closed and some men build/preperate/whatever the gas chambers/evidence. These few men get threatened/bribed and everyone else is just told the lie. The Guards will either be shot or threatened/bribed too. And the inmates will Joyfully say and believe everything that speaks against the nazis. Even a child could have planned something like this.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:06 No.539928
    >>539848

    Who is this "America" fellow? Doesn't sound like me or anyone I know, but I happen to live in a America.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:09 No.539942
    >>539874

    The thousands upon thousands of records, the thousands upon thousands of dead jews, the ghettos, the missing relatives, you know, it's kinda a BIG THING THAT EVERYONE SAW FIRST-HAND.

    How can anyone be so deluded as to deny such a monumental event?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:10 No.539947
    The Soviet Union is where the gas chambers claim came from. They also submitted the faked "human soap" to the Nuremberg tribunal.

    There were also claims of electricity chambers and steam chambers after the war, but those were dropped in favour of the gas chambers.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:12 No.539954
    >>539942
    How is it that something "EVERYONE SAW FIRST-HAND" left no forensic evidence?

    Why does the forensic evidence actually contradict the holocaust myth?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:13 No.539960
    >>539927
    >And the inmates will Joyfully say and believe everything that speaks against the nazis.

    Especially with a big fat reperations cheque on offer. We are talking about a people who have been known to lie for financial gain throughout history. Having said that I've seen an interview Dr Fred Töben did with a couple of kikes that said it was all bullshit and that awwshucks was a labour camp. So they ain't all liars.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:15 No.539971
    >>539942
    Everyone saw Jesus rise up into heaven too. But we all know that's bullshit.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:16 No.539976
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    >>539942
    OF COURSE.THEY WILL SAY NAZI DID THE KILLING.
    This is because jews themselves did the killing too.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:16 No.539977
    >>539764
    To add to my 'government workers cooking books' claim I present this written account

    were written by a medically trained prisoner whose job in the hospital it was to concoct such reports in the case of each prisoner who had died in the camp, whatever the cause. All the countless victims, those who...had been shot in Block 11 [the execution block], or the sick who had phenol injected into their hearts, the victims of starvation or of tortures, they had all regrettably lost their lives, according to the Deaths [sic] Book by succumbing to some ordinary disease." [43]

    the nazi's knew they had to kill the jews fast so they attributed many of the 'natural' deaths to disease when in fact these were shooting/gassing ect

    http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/body-disposal/


    in fact the link above dispells with most of your bullshit claims.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:17 No.539982
    >>539942
    Thousands of dead kikes does not 6 million make. There isn't any credible documentation with names or numbers killed or orders to kill the jews. And with so many fucking survivors it was certainly the most half assed genocide in history.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:18 No.539987
    >>539776
    >No such thing as Zionists

    5/10.

    For the effort.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:22 No.540001
    >>539987
    I'll bet he was serious. A lot of people think zionism is some neo nazi conspiracy theory.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:22 No.540005
    >>539954
    >Furthermore, I am convinced that chemistry is not the science which can prove or refute any allegations about the Holocaust "rigorously". We have several circumstantial evidences which, especially together with all the other evidence, allow us to come to the conclusion that the homicidal mass gassings as stated by the eye witnesses can not have taken place. But on the chemical argument no absolute certainty can be built.


    http://www.holocaust-history.org/auschwitz/chemistry/not-the-science/

    ball in your court
    >> Mandic !SRBINDsb16 04/05/10(Mon)10:27 No.540026
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    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:28 No.540027
    It has been over 60 years.

    If there was evidence to disprove official story, it's gone.

    You will never be able to convince without a shadow of a doubt that the official story was/is false.

    Same thing will happen to 9/11/2001.

    World moves on.

    People get away with shit, deal with it.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:28 No.540031
    >>539982
    >There isn't any credible documentation with names or numbers killed or orders to kill the jews


    http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/imt/tgmwc/tgmwc-03/

    nurmburg trail transcript, go knock yourself out
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:31 No.540045
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    >>540027
    The problem is, those fucking Zionist Jews often bring that topic up after being corner about the situation in Palestine.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:32 No.540047
    >>540005
    Yeah I have read all the pieces written between Richard Green and Germar Rudolf.

    Try reading these:

    Some considerations about the ›Gas Chambers‹ of Auschwitz and Birkenau
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/Green.html

    Character assassins
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/CharacterAssassins.html

    Dr. Richard Green's Evasions
    http://www.vho.org/GB/c/GR/Evasions.html

    There's also another one by Richard Green that I don't have a link to which was part of their exchange. Read them all for yourself and make up your own mind.

    Also be sure to read the original Rudolf Report.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:32 No.540049
    >>540001

    I think it's just a conspiracy-theory.

    Sure, there are people who wanted a Jewish country, and now they have it.

    But this whole, "Jews are secretly plotting to control the whole world", Rothschild, crap, is just that.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:33 No.540056
    >>540049
    Jews control the banks,
    Jews control the world.
    Is that really hard to understand?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:34 No.540060
    >>540031
    I said credible. Nuremburg was a kangaroo court. The confessions were obtained by torture.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:35 No.540067
    >>540049
    Are you >implying that the House of Rothschild doesn't exist? Doesn't own more, and have more money than pretty much anyone else? Doesn't hate everyone but Zionists?

    Cause if you are...
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:37 No.540070
    >>540031
    The same Nuremberg that concluded Nazis manufactured human soap based on a fake recipe and fake "human soap" which contained no human content?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:37 No.540074
    >>540049
    Zionism was the movement to establish the jewish state. Now it's about maintaining and defending the jewish state. It's not about the kikes wanting to rule the world. Is it really so fucking hard to google 'Zionism"?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:38 No.540081
    HEUAHEAUUHAEHUAEUH
    NO CYANIDE THEREFORE THE JEWS WERENT PERSECUTED, IT WAS ALL AN ELABORATE LIE AND MY DEAD PARENTS ARE REALLY ROCKING OUT IN JAMAICA IN THEIR JEW CONSPIRACY RETIREMENT HOLIDAY CONDO 8)

    Yeah you guys are geniuses and have figured it all out.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:39 No.540086
    lol at neo-nazis engaging in revisionist history for something they never saw themselves.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:40 No.540089
    >>540074
    Why rule when all you need is to control?
    You control the man finances, you control his life.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:41 No.540096
    >>540086
    I weep for the future of humanity.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:41 No.540098
    >>540081
    Your dead parents?

    You are like 65 years old?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:42 No.540100
    >>540089
    Same thing. Your point?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:42 No.540102
    >>540086
    Dude.
    I'm black.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:42 No.540103
    >>540098

    66 and 3 months.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:43 No.540107
    >>540102

    No you aren't Brad, get back to your match on CoD:MW2
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:44 No.540109
    >>540074

    So, I know what you're saying, that's why I made the delineation in my post. But, if you need some examples of what other people, who espouse these beliefs, think about Zionism, note the posts that I am about to quote.

    >>540056
    >>540067

    Tinfoil hat shit.

    Nobody controls the world. That's much scarier than any scenario you can pin up for me. And much more true.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:44 No.540111
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    >>540100
    with jews, you lose
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:44 No.540112
    >>540103
    An interesting death camp indeed is the one that allows its inmates to procreate.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:45 No.540115
    >>540111
    That, I know.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:46 No.540118
    >>540112

    Because all Jews were in death camps by 1944
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:46 No.540120
    >>540109
    >Is still implying the House of Rothschild doesn't exist, doesn't hate everyone but Zionists. Implies we are conspiracy nuts for knowing about an accepted fact.
    >> Concerned Citizen 04/05/10(Mon)10:47 No.540124
    Nearly 1 out of 3 jews seem to have relatives that died in concentration camp. I think it's funny.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:48 No.540128
    Zionism needs USA .
    Zionism control the US government
    Zionism control USA.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:49 No.540129
    >>540124

    Because most of them are ones that fled Europe in fear of persecution, asshat
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:49 No.540133
    Lots of Slav's died in the holocaust. Why don't we get any tears? Where's our tears? Hey what about the blacks and the gypsies, and the entire sea of dead Russians?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:50 No.540135
    >>540056
    The banks, the mines, the prisons, the power plants, the train stations, the factories, the list goes on and on.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:51 No.540139
    >>540133

    Lots of people died in the holocaust, its just Hitler focused all his hate and prejudice on the Jews, so thats where most of the attention and sympathy lies
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:52 No.540142
    >>540109
    I'm with you now. Though, the fact that kikes do dominate finance and the media is not a matter of theory but of fact. We know this because the individuals that head up and own these organisations are jewish. Whether there is some grand conspiracy to control the world is true or not, I don't know for a fact. But from observing their actions I get a pretty good idea.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:52 No.540145
    >>540139
    >Hitler killed more of the other minorities than Jews.

    I confuse.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:53 No.540147
    >>540133
    Niggers now? This shit just gets better and better.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:54 No.540152
    >>540145

    Hitler killed a little over 12 Million. He killed a little less than 6 Million jews.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:54 No.540154
    >>540145

    >completely rewording my post to read something entirely different

    Well that'd be why
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:57 No.540162
    >>540060
    notice I didn't say confession, I simply put a transcript

    but clearly nothing on the net will satisfy you, I would suggest doing what other anons did earlier and go to germany and go to auschwitz and request first hand documents.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)10:59 No.540170
    >>540142

    You can also replace "Jewish" with "White" and that statement still works, means nothing except on an individual level.

    >>540120

    I do not imply. If you knew me in real life you would understand this. If I have something to say, I say it, directly. Once, I made a girl cry, because she asked me how she looked in her corset, and I said "Fat girls look better in baggy clothes." So you will understand my contempt for being told that I am implying something.

    I'm not saying that the Rothschilds do not exist, or that they do not have vast economic powers and large pull within the IBC. Nor am I stating that Jews do not occupy positions of influence in many areas of the world. What I am saying is that to think that this is a result of a Jewish conspiracy to rule the world is idiocy. To think that Jews are monolothic in any way, and that these people are not simply acting out of their own self-interests, is assumptive. To assume that they coordinate, or that the entire world is somehow dictated by their influence, is also incredulous.

    Like I said, nobody runs the world. That's the scary reality; there is no shadow government.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:01 No.540176
    What a pathetic attempt at genocide the holocaust was. Fuck knows why they didn't just shoot the fuckers on site. Would've been a hell of a lot easier.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:02 No.540179
    >>540170
    The less you know.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:03 No.540188
    >>540162
    A transcript that contained 'evidence' in the form of confessions. Are you fucking stupid?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:05 No.540194
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    >>540170

    >You can also replace "Jewish" with "White" and that statement still works, means nothing except on an individual level.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:08 No.540203
    >>540170
    >and that these people are not simply acting out of their own self-interests

    That they are is kind of the point.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:09 No.540213
    >>540170
    White's are a majoriy in America, so it makes some sense that they'd also be the majority of wealthy wealthy business men. Jews though are a minority here (less than 5% even?) so you also would expect that they'd make up the majority ceo's etc. But obviously there's a discrepancy here which is part of why they're hated.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:17 No.540244
    >>540213

    But on a global scale, whites are a minority. So why are whites always in positions of power? Does whites being in positions of power across the globe indicate some sort of "white conspiracy" to take global power?

    Anytime there's a discrepancy in the population of a group and their influence, it becomes the subject of hatred. The Jews are no different.

    I've met my fair share of Jews. Most were quite average people. Yet I'm somehow supposed to believe that there is a monolithic conspiracy for global control, and that they're in on it?

    Isn't it much more possible that a bunch of people are trying to get power, and that Jews are pretty good at it?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:19 No.540251
    >>540188
    that would be true if everything said in the transcript was a lie.

    if he nazi's could pin the killings on hitler then they could point to his orders and the reports of the killings

    it would be very sketchy if the allies found bodies and pined the jews death on those officials, when they could just point to the (now dead) hitler

    >>539977
    here also provided link of how medical doctors had to write reports on dead jews
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:25 No.540267
    >>540244
    Rothschild and co are the problem and the jews are just their scapegoats. Still they don't really help their cause much by supporting crap like Israel.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:26 No.540273
    Hey guys, guys!

    There's no evidence of any sort of bullshit "history" that we learn in school. Or hear on the news, since it's controlled by the Jews. Or in books, because the publishing houses are controlled by Jews. Same with scientists, historians, museum curators, etc etc.

    I mean, where's the evidence that the Hundred Year's War took place anyway? Any evidence at all? Have you SEEN an English longbowman in your life? It's obviously a big lie! And what about Isaac Newton? What kind of ignorant fool could honestly believe that such a person existed hundreds of years ago? Show me the goddamn evidence you fucks!

    Conclusion: everything is a lie, we live in the Matrix
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:26 No.540275
    >>540244
    It's not the power people have a problem with, it's what they do with the power.

    >Yet I'm somehow supposed to believe that there is a monolithic conspiracy for global control, and that they're in on it?

    Only in so far as they stick together to further their own interests. The littles jews may not know what the big jews are up to, but they support them because they are fellow jews. Jews stick together, it's how they've survived as a people amongst alien cultures for thousands of years.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:27 No.540281
    >>540251
    I'll take that as a yes.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:29 No.540298
    >>540267
    The Rothchilds are kikes.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:29 No.540301
    >>540273
    >Have you SEEN an English longbowman in your life?
    Yes I have. Longbows are fucking are fucking badass.
    This thread is now about longbows.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:31 No.540312
    >>540301
    The nazis killed thousands of jews with longbows in the holocaust.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:31 No.540317
    >>540298
    But not all kikes are Rothschilds.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:33 No.540328
    >>540312
    I'd believe over the gassing theory. Gas is fucking expensive man.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:33 No.540329
    >>540317
    Touché.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:34 No.540338
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    >>540301

    WELL FUCK YEAH LOOKS LIKE LONGBOWS REALLY EXISTED AND SO DID THE MIDDLE AGES

    HISTORY IS NOT A LIE

    THEREFORE THE HOLOCAUST WAS REAL, Q.E.D.
    >> Justin Bieber !xoAzsnChe. 04/05/10(Mon)11:35 No.540340
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    what the fuck is wrong with all of you?
    trying to deny the holocaust is like trying to deny that the sky is blue.
    seriously. what the fuck? kids these days...
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:35 No.540341
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    >>540281
    well there's nothing more to discuss here, since seem to discredit everything I say.

    like I said, go to auschwitz or some holocaust museum and request first hand sources.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:38 No.540360
    Remember how Pakistan wanted a private investigation but the Germans said fuck off?

    Step 1 of a cover up, prohibit investigations.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:39 No.540374
    >Zionist believers calling people who don't believe in Zionist conspiracy theorists
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:41 No.540388
    >>540341
    There are no sources that prove beyond the shadow of a doubt that the holocaust happened as advertised. If there was I would know about them. And I wouldn't think it was a crock of shit. I would like to go to awwshucks though, so I can see the swimming pool, and the school, the art gallery, the brothel, the shop, etc for myself. I wouldn't go to a holocuast museum though, they're not a business I'd patronise. Besides all I'd get was more jewshit for my money.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:41 No.540394
    Understanding that the Holocaust happened =/= Zionism

    That's like calling a critic of Israel's foreign policy an anti-Semite. The world isn't divided into black-and-white homogenous blocs, folks.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:45 No.540418
    >>540394
    Criticizing Israel is anti-semitism.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:45 No.540419
    >>540388

    You know what else is a crock of shit? Evolution and climate change. I mean, who the fuck comes up with this bullshit, and then claims "OOOOH I HAVE A MOUNTAIN OF SCIENTIFIC DATA AND ANALYSIS THAT SUPPORTS THE EXTANT PARADIGM." It's so fucking obvious that global warming and changes and allele frequency are a Jewish lie.

    Yeah, and how about that completely fraudulent myth that Alexander the Great existed and conquered a large part of Asia? You've never seen Alexander the Great. I've never seen him. Do we have any photographs or recordings of him? Hell fucking no. It's a lie these Zionist kike "historians" have been shoving down our throats.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:47 No.540443
    >>540388
    >I would like to go to awwshucks though, so I can see the swimming pool, and the school, the art gallery, the brothel, the shop, etc for myself

    pure troll here folks, nothing to see
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:50 No.540457
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    >>540443
    Those things do exist. You can go and see them. They arn't on the guided tour though.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:52 No.540466
    even if there was a holocaust, the jews should stop being so butt hurt and get over it. What's the point of surviving if you're going to spend the rest of your existence feeling dirty over it?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:55 No.540489
    The shoah must go on.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)11:56 No.540491
    So if the idea was to kill them all, and they were uber efficient at killing, then why was there even time for them to get so emaciated? Doesn't it make more sense that they primarily were work camps that occasionally had to kill sick folk and that exactly as advertised, used gas chambers to kill lice so that disease would not run rampant?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:01 No.540514
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    Obvious idiocy is obvious.
    Move along, there's nothing but stupid here.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:02 No.540516
    derp a derp I'm on the internet denying the holocaust

    Go to one of those Eastern European countries and start spewing this shit, see how long it takes before you get the ever loving shit beat out of you or are forced to join a skinhead group.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_denial
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:15 No.540591
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    Holy shit, this thread is still alive?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:29 No.540691
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    >>540312

    Fun Fact: This basass over here actually killed a Nazi with a longbow in combat.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:31 No.540713
    Nah my grandma was in one of the camps during the holocaust. She would randomly break down and cry, especially if anyone asked about it. But Im sure its for the soviet propaganda that she did all that. Hell i bet she even got the tattoo on her arm just to get deeper into the character.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:33 No.540741
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    >>537543
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:37 No.540781
    My grandma left Poland for the US in the mid 1930s.

    That photo ablum I have of pictures from the old country, with photos of all her relatives, the ones she told us died in the holocaust, those are all fakes, right?

    And the fact that I have large families in various parts of the world from my other grandparents, and none at all from my grandmother's side other then one set of third cousins who also left before Poland was invaded, that's all fake too, right? All her relatives are in some secret Zionist vacation resort in Israel, right?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:40 No.540808
    >>540691
    wow, that's not badass, that's plain stupid.
    why would you use a bow if you could have a gun?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:41 No.540821
    >>540808

    For cool points.

    He also liked to play bagpipes while marching into combat.

    That all made him so badass that he was virtually bulletproof.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:43 No.540841
    people die in war. Doesn't mean its genocide.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:47 No.540884
    >>540713
    Well, there you go. Had they really been a holocaust and camps for extermination (as opposed to plain old work camps), then there's no way in hell that she'd live to tell the tale.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:51 No.540924
    i wonder why anyone still replies to this kind of threads.

    it's obvious that only trolls and people who are delusional beyond repair argue that the holocaust was a lie.

    srsly, 223 posts for this shit?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:52 No.540933
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    >>540924
    Great bump there, bro.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)12:59 No.540980
    Anyone who believes those SIX MILLIONS AND NOT ONE LESS is as dumb as those that completely deny that the holocaust happened.

    But eh, people are apparently too ignorant not to see this as a b/w issue. 5999999 JEWS ONLY? OMG HOLOCAUST DENIER
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:01 No.541005
    >>540980
    >herp derp
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:01 No.541012
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    >>540933
    Same to you bro!
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:03 No.541023
    >>537910
    Watched the video, he makes his point quite well.

    There do seem to be a lot of inconsistencies about Auschwitz.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:07 No.541050
    >>537910
    is there a text version? i don't want to listen to this, just give me his arguments
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:15 No.541136
    The holocaust was exagerated in proportion and importance, like most things jewish, because jews have a strong representation in the world that doesn't match their number. That is due to jews holding important and succesful places in the world. That is due to jewish families being conservative and forming strong communities. We can't blame them for trying hard and being rewarded for that.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:16 No.541147
    >>541136
    >exagerated in proportion
    well, the numbers are quite correct, i hope you don't doubt them?
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:18 No.541161
    More communists and Gypsies and other undesirables died in the Halocaust than Jews. That's just a fucking fact.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:21 No.541183
    Troll, troll, troll.

    My great grandfather was part of the 89th infantry division which liberated Ohrdruf. So, to perpuate this myth even further, the Russians would have to crossed two Nazi lanes, constructed this massive illusion for my great grandfather and thousands of other soldiers at the camp, and then made it back in time just for supper.

    OR

    Shit really did happen.

    I'm going to go with the latter.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)13:24 No.541205
    >>541161
    well, no.
    there weren't enough gypsies and communists for that
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)14:05 No.541556
    >>540713
    Strange that somehow the evil nazi's killed "ALL" the jews in europe. Yet miraculously millions upon millions of them survived!

    It's almost like, there was no organized campaign to exterminate them after all!
    Red Cross had access to all german camps throughout the war.
    While the soviets did not permit ANY western people access to their camps.

    It was not until a DECADE AFTER WW2, that the soviets started letting select few people view the "holocaust" camps, and they had been completely rebuilt to support their fiction of mass genocide.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)14:07 No.541574
    >>541050
    >>541050
    The guy is an atheist born to jewish parents, he visits Auschwitz, goes on the tour and asks a lot of polite but probing questions. He also interviews a man at Auschwitz named Franciszek Piper who is one of the historians based there.

    Initially, Cole goes through some of the things shown on the tour and points out that they don't specifically prove anything. For instance, on the tour there is a room full of clothes and shoes, claimed to be the belongings of jews who were stripped prior to being gassed. Cole says, ok, so there are a lot of shoes and clothes here, but that doesn't mean that jews were necessarily exterminated en masse; he points out that arrivals to Auschwitz were given uniforms as an explanation as to why the clothes and shoes were taken from them.

    Cole narrows it down to a particular building at Auschwitz which, according to the tour, was used as a gas chamber. He says the claims of the holocaust really hinge on whether or not the gas chamber really was a gas chamber. He then brings up a number of questions which bring a lot of doubt as to whether or not the gas chamber is really what it is claimed.

    - The gas chamber is shown as a large empty concrete room. But Cole also shows in the video signs of removal of internal walls, and a toilet.
    -- The tour guide tells him, the gas chamber is as it was originally.
    -- But when he questions somebody else, he is told the opposite.
    -- Franciszek Piper tells Cole that, in the later stages of the war, the gas chamber was converted into a bomb shelter due to British air raids on Auschwitz. After the war, according to Piper, the internal walls were removed to return the 'object' to its original state.
    -- Cole questions why the tour guide would be told to say something that is contrary to the facts; this is one reason to doubt that the gas chamber is what it is claimed to be.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)14:08 No.541580
    >>541574

    - As a secondary point to this, the gas chamber on the tour is shown with four chimneys, which are claimed to have been used to drop Cyclon-B crystals down on the people inside (this is how they were gassed). Piper confirms that the chimneys shown were built after the war, but he says that the same chimneys were originally in place and removed only when the gas chamber became a bomb shelter.

    -There is a report, by a pro-holocaust writer, that Cole points to, which says that 95% of the Cyclon-B (the gas) used at Auschwitz, was used to kill lice, vermin etc.
    -- Piper confirms that some Cyclon-B was used to treat lice.
    - There is a room at Auschwitz which is coated in residue from the Cyclon-B, this room is where the lice, etc were treated. Interestingly, there is no residue on the walls of the gas chamber shown on the tour.
    -- Piper explains this by saying that the fumigation room was in use almost 24 hours a day, but the gas chamber was in use only 30 minutes a day.
    -- Coles makes a number of summations: a) 30 minutes a day means one gassing a day. This would not be frequent enough to kill large numbers of jews. b) The germans put a lot of effort into killing lice/vermin, which is inconsistent with the idea that they completely disregarded jewish life. c) Eye-witness accounts of the holocaust claim that the gas chambers operated 24/7, which is contradicted by Piper's statements and the lack of Cyclon-B residue. Cole also points out that the layout of Auschwitz was such that prisoners at the camp had a clear view of the gas chamber, so there is no reason for a mistake on the part of the eye-witnesses.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)14:09 No.541591
    >>541580

    The other main point that Cole makes is that the changes made to the gas chamber after the war were done by the Soviets, and he questions whether we should trust the Soviets to have faithfully restored the gas chamber. He points out that the Soviets and the Nazis as well the British and the USA were all heavily involved in propaganda, and it is plausible that the Soviets would try to prove their own propaganda at Auschwitz. Cole shows an excerpt from a USA video of a claimed gas chamber which was later refuted. He also cites examples of fraud by the Soviets, for instance, soap that was presented as being made from the bodies of jews, which was later shown to not have been the case.

    Following on from this, Cole quotes from a text which claims that over a million German POWs were killed in USA camps by the Americans and French. He also points out that Japanese-Americans were interred in camps in the United States. Cole uses these examples to suggest that nothing out of the ordinary happened at Auschwitz, and that it was just another POW camp.

    FLOOD DETECTIONSDLJFDLS
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)14:12 No.541615
    >>541574
    >>541580
    >>541591

    Wait, so his judgement that the Holocaust was the biggest lie in history is based upon an old museum tourguide with an inconsisent recollection of recited historical tidbits?

    Good work holocaust deniers, infallible evidence, Jews did the holocaust.
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)14:19 No.541685
    sure is stormfront in here
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)14:44 No.541908
    >>541591

    If I remember right the gas chamber is really close to the Guards quarters, which is a bit suspect. I mean if I was releasing lethal gas into the atmosphere I would want to be as far from it as possible.
    >> egas 04/05/10(Mon)15:12 No.542083
    >>541685
    sure is ADL in here
    >> Anonymous 04/05/10(Mon)15:15 No.542104
    >>541615
    Yet if that "evidence" was speaking FOR the lolocaust, you'd be calling anyone who disregards it an anti-semite.



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