Capitalism: A Love Story seems the natural culmination of all his others, an overarching look at the insidious control of Wall Street and corporate interests over politics and lives. Its timing is exquisite, coming in the wake of the biggest financial collapse in living memory. And once again Moore is bracing himself: as the film drew to a close at its premiere in Los Angeles, he posted a message on Twitter: "The packed house gets up to grab their torches and pitchforks …"

The film is certainly shocking. Early on, Moore sets out the meaning of "Dead Peasants" insurance. It turns out that Wal-Mart, a company with a revenue larger than any other in the world, bets on its workers dying, taking out life insurance policies on its 350,000 shop-floor workers without their knowledge or approval. When one of them dies, Wal-Mart claims on the policy. Not a cent of the payout, which sometimes runs to a $1m (£620,000) or more, goes to the family of the dead worker, often struggling with expensive funeral bills. Wal-Mart keeps the lot. If a worker dies, the company profits.

Wal-Mart is not alone. Moore talks to a woman whose husband died of brain cancer in 2008. He worked at a bank until it fired him because he was sick. But the bank retained a life insurance policy on the unfortunate man and cashed it in for $4.7m (£2.9m) when he died. There were gasps from the audience in a Washington cinema at that.

They came again as Moore focused on the eviction of the foreclosed. The Hacker family of Peoria filmed themselves being chucked out of their home because of skyrocketing mortgage payments. Randy Hacker, gun owner, observes that he can understand why someone might want to shoot up a bank. In a final twist, the eviction squad offers the Hackers cash to clear out their yard.

The Hackers are Republicans. So was the widow of the bank worker. It is the gap, between the ordinary American – Democrat or Republican, middle-class or dirt-poor – and predatory banks and mammoth corporations that Moore has made his target ever since Roger and Me, his first film, set out to expose the damage wreaked by General Motors on his hometown of Flint, Michigan.

"One movie maybe can't make a difference," Moore says. "I'll say, what's the point of this? What do I want [my audiences] to do? Obviously I want them to be engaged in their democracy. I want them to get off the bench and become active."

Last summer something happened that renewed Moore's conviction that his film-making was politically worthwhile. "I'm in the edit room and there's Bill Moyers on the TV interviewing the vice-president of Sigma health insurance. Massive, billion-dollar company. He's sitting there, telling the country that he's quit his job and he wants to come clean. That he and the other health insurance companies got together and pooled their resources to smear me and the film Sicko to try and stop people from going to see it because, as he said, everything Michael Moore said in Sicko was true, and we were afraid this film would be a tipping point.

"I came away from that, with 'Wow, they're afraid of this movie, they believe it can actually create a revolution.' The idea that cinema can be dangerous is a great idea."

Moore's critics would argue this is his ego speaking. The idea that his film about the failings of the US healthcare system was on the brink of prompting a revolution of any kind looks all the more far-fetched given how the political fight over the issue has panned out. But if Moore's primary intention is to send up a warning flare, to alert Americans to what is going on in their country but not usually reported, he's been pretty successful.

At the end of Capitalism: A Love Story, Moore makes a pronouncement: "Capitalism is an evil, and you cannot regulate evil. You have to eliminate it and replace it with something that is good for all people and that something is democracy." Michael Moore once planned to be a priest. In his youth he was drawn to the Berrigan brothers, a pair of radical priests who pulled anti-Vietnam war stunts such as pouring blood on military service records. In an instructive moment for Moore, the brothers made clear they weren't just protesting against the war, but against religious organisations that kept silent about it.

These days he disagrees with Catholic orthodoxy exactly where you would expect him to – he supports abortion rights and gay marriage – but he credits his Catholic upbringing with instilling in him a sense of social justice, and an activism tinged with theatre that lives on his films.

But what does it mean, to replace capitalism with democracy? He sighs and tries to explain. In the old Soviet bloc, he says, communism was the political system and socialism the economic. But with capitalism, he complains, you get political and economic rolled in to one. Big business buys votes in Congress. Lobbyists write laws. The result is that the US political system is awash in capitalist money that has stripped the system of much of its democratic accountability.

"What I'm asking for is a new economic order," he says. "I don't know how to construct that. I'm not an economist. All I ask is that it have two organising principles. Number one, that the economy is run democratically. In other words, the people have a say in how its run, not just the 1%. And number two, that it has an ethical and moral core to it. That nothing is done without considering the ethical nature, no business decision is made without first asking the question, is this for the common good?"

Michael Moore?

Moore like MOORE DOUBLE CHEESEBURGERS PLEASE? CAPITALISM IS EVIL HERE FOLLOW ME TO MY PRIVATE JET SO I CAN TELL YOU ALL ABOUT IT FOR ONLY 10 DOLLARS A TICKET

BUY MY DVD

NEED MOORE BUTTER

If any Americans are reading this this is the best journalism you will ever see. Most of you retards gawp at Fucks News and feel more informed whereas the British prefer well-written articles, opinionless or not.

hey retards, michael moore gets revenue from his film. he says leftist shit because he knows it'll bait retards into watching him which means more money, just like glenn beck.

I'm glad Michael More is brave enough to state thee uncomfortable truths

>>52955
yes yes we're all retarded and all we need is our glorious britfag overlords to come back and finish what they failed to start in the war of 1812 to make things all better, we know

Go stick a bar of butter in Mike's pikehole for me kk?

Oh looks its this again. Poverty stricken weed smokers blaming all their faults on Capitalism

FEED ME BUTTER
BUTTER BUTTER BUTTER
NEED MOORE BUTTER
BUTTER BUTTER BUTTER

YUMMY BUTTER

MMMM PIZZA

>>52955
>>52955

Um what? because britain, No ALL OF EUROPE has now been overtaken by ultra leftist politicians and dogma, any criticism of a minority of sorts is heavily censored and rebuked. Now no respectable person in the US gets their news from the mainstream media, By the way, have fun with your muslims and gypsies

>>52964
That's not my point you moronic Yankee. I haven't watch any of Moore's films since Farenheit 9/11.

My point is that you mongoloids need someone to hold your hand and lead you through a systematic process of: headline, unsourced "facts", opionated ranting. This is in the place of decent journalism.

IS MICHAEL MOORE SECRETLY BRUCE VILLANCH?

WE REPORT YOU DECIDE

NEXT

FRONTLINE

Moore is an idiot and doesn't know the difference between "Capitalism" and "Corporatism".

>>52977
> I haven't watch any of Moore's films since Farenheit 9/11.

According to the box office reports, neither has anyone else

OH BURN

>HURR I'LL MAKE A MOVIE ON HOW MUCH I HATE CAPITALISM AND CHARGE FOR IT

>>52977
see
>Now no respectable person in the US gets their news from the mainstream media, By the way, have fun with your muslims and gypsies

>>52955
>is the best journalism you will ever see.

No it's not. He's just some fuck who investigates an issue, then edits together his interviews in a way that's convenient to his point, and retards buy into it. A real journalist would try to remain objective and present all sides of the issue. This is just Moore trying to make money.

>>52985
you're an idiot who doesn't realise corporatism is a product of capitalism

libertarian reductionist.

>>52964

>implying you were truly fighting the British EMPIRE in 1812

Britain was fighting the US with one hand behind their back and the other one in a sling. You see, there was this fella by the name of Napoleon the Brits had to deal with first (Napoleonic Wars of 1803-1815 ring a bell?). And even then, their pet Canadians managed to burn down your capital.

>>52986
He should just stop, all he's doing now is taking flak, the fact he's fat is irrelevant but an obvious targeting point for people who don't want to respond thoughtfully but oppose him all the same.

THIS THREAD REQUIRES MOORE BUTTER

>>52991
I'm not saying its perfect, I'm saying you retards all watch the TV to get news, we have a print media that still makes money.

Americans do not tolerate dissent, obviously

>>52994
>>52977
YOU HAVE NOT PROVIDED MOORE BUTTER THEREFORE YOUR ARGUMENT IS INVALIDATED

>>52974
>>52974

This. Europeans need to get off their high horse. The pseudo liberalism and forced skewed concept of political correctness is what is going to kill Europe, and eventually America. at least in the US, we actually have Free Speech.

>get rich insulting capitalism, trollface and call americans stupid to european

although he's fat, he has a point that places like Wal-Mart exploit their workers and crushed small business competitors underfoot. Too bad unions are for communists, and we don't like communists here in america.

The only issue I'd have is that Moore Believes the American incarnate of Capitalism is inherently evil. He shows several areas where capitalism does work, such as a company where all employees (From the line workers, to the CEO have the same pay) Or where the employees vote on how they should proceed and even debate the pros and cons.

As for Moore's ideas don't take root with the public, is the massive apathy that American culture. Such as reaction to the 'Dead Peasants' other first world countries, it would most likely cause a massive outcry. In America, it's seen as business as usual. Even though there were gasps in the Washington audience and some might have talked about it. People predicatively forget unless it's constantly reinforced. Like the Media in the US keeps on saying that Obama is a far-left socialist.

>>53009
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTOQhPd2Xh4
orly?

>>53001
>>53001

Your print media is no better. By the way here is proof. Your media is edited and regulated so much, so as to avoid " offending minorities"

Here is the link http://www.communities.gov.uk/documents/communities/pdf/151921.pdf

>>53014
I think its because America is too big for its own good. Too big for a person in Miami to give a fuck about what some guy in Sacramento thinks about healthcare or Gay marriage rights.

If Mr Miami could vote for a guy on the issues that affect him locally, and Mr Sacramento could do the same, and Mr America could just leave them alone then we'd have a happier America collectively.

FEED ME SEYMOUR
FEED ME BUTTER AND THE BLOOD OF THE BOURGEOISIE

>>53023
The most read papers are right leaning or just plain right wing. The more socailly conscious papers make as much money (liberal papers have more content in them so they cost more) but most people don't want good reportage, they'd prefer tits, sport, slogans and shitty opinions.

Your lack of knowledge looks like a lack of care, typical apathetic American retard.

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>claim to be an enlightened country of free-thinkers
>someone puts forward controversial view
>every American: "GET HIM!"

>>53054
>>53054

And you are the typical overtly homosexual brit

All I know is that if we brought down Moore and dried out the meat in the sun ala the Native Americans with bison meat, you could feed an entire tribe for two years

>>53080
Excellente, this means I have both one as a troll and as a patriot. Come hither nigger and accept your spanking.

Europe nowadays; People mad because they are poor, therefore the free market is nowadays evil.

>>53093
>>53093

Cant busy celebrating Independence day, and my second amendment. So i herd you need help defeating the germans?

>>53093
There isn't a paddle big enough on planet Earth to spank my ass

Pic related

WHERE"S MY BUTTER AND BLOOD FAGGOTS?

>>53093

Hassan Bin Salim is moving in next door. He takes a shit on your lawn. too bad you cant tell him off, its racist.

>>53101
4th July that, hows more Americans dying at the hands of their own guns than incidents prevented by the use of firearms? Also nah thanks we have the Russians to thank for getting rid of the Germans. And btw even Finland managed to hold them off and you couldn't beat some gooks that gave them guns? Pitiful.

>>53131
>4th July that, hows more Americans dying at the hands of their own guns than incidents prevented by the use of firearms?

Sentence structure motherfucker, do you know it?

>>52899
I feel sorry for all of you people who simply slander this man for his weight and fail to acknowledge the point he is trying to make for your benefit. Theatres wouldn't show the film for free. I am amazed at the idiocy ITT. Moore has always put together intelligent expose films for the betterment of the common person being flogged by forces far bigger Nd greater than themselves. And he has been RIGHT everytime about every point he has made.
Wake up you fucking morons. You people don't deserve to vote. You're all sheep. You're the ruling class's highest dream.

>>53131
4th of July in the States means getting to play with fireworks that aren't even allowed on your island at all

And gun deaths? This isn't fucking Cinco De Mayo dipshit and we're not Mexico.

>>53136
Independence day is on the 4th July. Also, how does it feel that more Americans die from misfiring guns than incidents prevented by the use of firearms?

How don't avoid the point, why does your country fail? Is it because you are mostly Mexicans and Niggers now or is it too soon to call America "over run"?

>>53149
Fat people are the greediest people of all bro

Every pound of flesh they consume something else gave it's life to make, think about that for a minute.

And lol at "Well he totally wouldn't charge to see his film but it's all the theater's fault"

Yeah?

Then why can't you just go to his website and watch his movies for free then?

Yeah that's what I thought. Fucking pwned faggot.

Go munch of Moore's cock, if you can even find it amidst all the flab.

>>52985
>>52992
You're both morons who don't know what "corporatism" means.

>>53152
We are allowed fireworks, we use them to celebrate the failed attempt to blow up parliament by some Catholic guy hundreds of years ago. We also burn an effigy of him. He looks a bit like anonymous.

loll michel moore is fat

>>53154
Yes I realize you don't know how to speak the language your people developed but you could try a bit harder

Also

Also
>how does it feel that more Americans die from misfiring guns

Feels good bro. You, on the other hand, aren't even viewed as mature enough by your government to own them. How's it feel being treated like a little baby bitch your whole life?

Bet it feels good man. You like being the bitch though right?

>>53162
>We are allowed fireworks

You're not allowed the types we're allowed, you know, the fun ones you can lose fingers over

>>53158
you are a goddamn moron. I'm not the guy who posted that shit post you replied to, but you didn't do much to prove his point wrong. You might have helped his argument. Fucking retard.

>>53171
NO U

>>53166
>Wanting firearms in a nation which has none is childish and/or excessive just like the majority of Americans are when it comes to all things in life.

>internet
>>53169
Pleanty of people loose fingers in our country over fireworks. Besides don't some of your states have laws banning certain fireworks? Seems a bit of a redundant arguement for NATIONism.

>>53131
>>4th July that, hows more Americans dying at the hands of their own guns than incidents prevented by the use of firearms?

Guess how many people die from cars each year. Why don't we ban those too?

Tl:dr You made the most childish argument ever.

>>53182
>Pleanty of people loose fingers in our country over fireworks.

AHAHAHAHA

British people don't know how to use fireworks without blowing their fingers off. What a bunch of ignorant morons.

Also, too stupid to spell Plenty

>Besides don't some of your states have laws banning certain fireworks?

Sure and conveniently right across the border from those states are states which DO allow the sales of those fireworks and so we just drive half an hour away and buy them there.

You, on the other hand, have to drive under a large body of water to do the same

>>52955
>michael moore
>good journalism

i lol'd heartily

Dear Britfags;

Why you so easy to troll?

What is up with that?

You take things too seriously. Get the stick outta yer arse and go drink some tea and gin or something

Sincerely;
Reasonable, funny people who think you are very dumb

>>53003
Dissent is only cool and hip when a Republican is president.

>>53196
Yeah but the sole purpose of a car is to drive about not kill yourself.

Guns are there to protect you (or so your right wing like to say) and if they don't do that as well as they protect you from criminals I'd say they should not be there in the first place. Shame you morons created a situation you can't get out of.

>>53199
To be fair we are drunk most of the time, its a luxury we are allowed, living in a 24 hours drinking society. We can also drink in the street and walk places without the cops stopping you for unruly behaviour (even when you are acting very much like you are in control).

>Also implying we can drive under that thing, that would be cool but no its a long way off two tunnels connecting us to the French.

>>53208
STFU nigger we're all having fun trolling eachother. And btw you aren't funny.

>>53210
Shame you britfag retards actually think more people die to accidental gun fire than do criminals in the states.

Note: This is simply untrue and you are retarded

Also

Way too easy to troll.

Riddle me this Britfag: Why is dressing in your mother's panties so popular in Britain? Is it because you aren't really men and you wish to be the little girl?

We report
You decide
Next
Channel 4 Documentary

>>53014

You tell me american capitalism isnt remotely evil when it creates sociopaths much like the conservitard sociopaths that post here.

>>53199

Claim to be free country, not trusted with fireworks

>>53230
We're trusted

Some states just prove themselves to be more trustworthy than others

You see, that's the beauty of our system, no one state is beholden to another as to their laws.

Unlike you, who won't let Scotland or Ireland have their freedom without 100 years of terrorist bombings

>>53227
It is true, I suggest you look it up. Use google I don't have space to bookmark interesting things about your very uninteresting country.

How's living in a country of hundreds of millions of people with only 3 cities even worth visiting? Btw you have a city devoted to faggotry, and many gay districts, we keep ours in one place and profession, ie. acting in Soho

Notice the massive income disparity in US compared to any other western country.

>>53236
>Scotland and Northern Ireland are like states. They are very much England lite.
NI isn't even worth keeping. Britain should just keep any oil drilling rights and fuck off and let them keep their nightmare of a country.

>>53244
Actually, no, it's not, you see 30,000 deaths are related to gunfire each year in America, and the vast majority of those are actually suicides. The next top margin is crime related, gang activity and the like. Next group would be related to self defense and the last category would be accidental gunfire, almost all related to hunting accidents

But you see, I don't even need bookmarks to remember this information because I looked it up recently and you haven't.

Now. Back to the panties thing. What is up with that?

Do you just wish you were born girls? Or do you really want to get your dicks chopped off? Or does it go back to that old British brotherhood concept where you'd beat each other off at private school (totally no homo though of course) and it's just an extension of that?

>>53249
>he thinks people who don't work deserve equal pay to those that do

>>53257
Which brings me back to my original point. Americans rely on unsourced and bias reportage. I lol'd when you said "remember" like that means anything to anyone other than yourself.

We don't wear panties, the average British man is infact Captain Price from Call of Duty. Whereas the average American man is one of two things, a coon or a whirly twirly nancy boy with shit taste in sport and most likely dump as a post.

>>53264
>That's what Europe all does
>Sweden does something like that yet they still have low unemployment rates. Massive benefits but also a national insentive to work. Utopian and totally unamerican.

>>53264

If you think about it, why not provide everyone with the basics: food, shelter, healthcare, education. We have so much wealth that we could certainly do this.

And those people who want a bigger house, or a nice car, or a boat, etc, can go work hard and get those rewards to.

Everybody wins, except for those who just can't get over someone getting something for free.

Would probably vastly reduce the crime rate too, so your taxes wouldn't need to pay to house,feed,healthcare for people in prison.

>>53290

>implying private prisons aren't a billion dollar industry.

>>53280
>We don't wear panties

lol okay bro

Go ask Roger Waters why his entire band engaged in cross dressing heavily during the 60s

>the average British man is infact Captain Price from Call of Duty

I'm sorry that you play really shitty games like Call of Duty. Who is captain price again? The terrorist?

I don't even know.

Anyway. Enjoy the smell of your mothers funk vagina bro, we all know that's the closest you've gotten to any in a loooooooong long time

>>53032

And that, gentlemen, is why we have state government.

Also, Federal laws should be few and supreme, but states should make most of the laws.

http://www.google.com/search?q=long+history+of+cross+dressing+in+England&hl=en&client=firefo
x-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=P8H&tbs=tl:1&tbo=u&ei=UnNkS-j1I5SOlAfsirmU
Cg&sa=X&oi=timeline_result&ct=title&resnum=11&ved=0CCwQ5wIwCg

History of cross dressing in England starts in 1550

Thats a pretty long history if you ask me

>>53290
>why not provide everyone with the basics: food, shelter, healthcare, education

Yeah we do that already

And it has created a culture where people don't feel like doing anything more with their lives because they already get it all for free. It's called the welfare state

I'm sorry did you not know this? Well once you move out of your mother's basement you'll figure it out quick enough

>>53294
Butthurt.
>>53298
>either Republicans or Democrats want that.

>>53300

> Yeah we do that already

Guess what, there will always be a class of people who don't want to do shit. Your society has 2 choices: provide for them so that they won't commit crimes. Or don't provide for them, they commit crimes, and you'll have to provide for them in prison anyway.

How hard is that to understand. You're going to pay either way, so why not choose the choice that causes less crime?

>>53300
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-US%3Aofficial&
;tbo=p&tbs=tl%3A1&q=long+history+of+cross+dressing+in+america&btnG=Search&meta=&
aq=f&oq=

Looks gayer to me.

>>53313
>there will always be a class of people who don't want to do shit.

No, there isn't and your choice is false but again:

We do all that already. What exactly are you bitching about?

>>53308
I don't think so Tim.

Enjoy playing your games made in America by Americans though. Sucks to have to lick our cultures ass all the time don't it bro?

>>53308

Let me dream of philosopher-kings, okay?

>>53318

Sorry bro, but if you took away welfare, you think all those people would go get a job? LOL.

If you don't give them welfare, they'll just steal what that need. Then you'll have to pay for them in prison too.

You're gonna pay one way or the other: pay to give them free stuff, or pay to keep them in prison after they rob you.

Your desire to punish lazy people is literally causing more crime than is necessary, while not reducing the costs of providing for them.

>>53317
>one history starts in 1550
>the other in 1840
>pic related

>>53324
>this guy thinks the only option with poor people is give them money or they'll steal it

Nice soft bigotry brosef

>>53324

I'm sorry, that's a terrible solution. "Refraining from creating a massive and endless entitlement system that only grows larger as time goes on" is not the same as "punishing lazy people."

>>53289
>sweden
>low unemployment rates
>reads only doctored statistics

most unemployment statistics are doctored, dude. for example, sweden's government admits that some 130.000 people in “labor market political programs” are simply unemployed. yet, they don't count for the statistics.

also, official unemployment in sweden is 9%, and in the usa, it's 10%. not that low.

ITT: lulz

>>53300

Food - You have to be damn near homeless with an earned income of $1700 a month or less but not under $100 for foodstamps. Even then you only get about $200 if you're single.

Shelter - Shelters are shitholes. In fact they're such shitholes that most homeless people would rather sleep in the street in their own piss than take their chances at a shelter. Public housing is less shitty but still shit.

Healthcare - Even worse than foodstamps you have to be making under $800 a month to get medicaid. You really think someone who makes say $1000 or $1200 a month has money for health insurance? The answer is no.

Education - Flawed educational system thats purely funded by property taxes. Ensuring that the poor receive substantially inferior education than the rich. What does this mean in the long-term? Poor stay poor rich stay rich. No upward mobility.

The problem IS the system we have now but not because we're giving too much. We're giving way too little and pretending we're giving a lot.

>>53318
If you knew anything about video games you'd know a disproportionate amount of the talent is not American and a hell of a lot of the studios are also based in Canada, the UK, Japan, Germany as well as California.

Sharing the culture of talented Americans is fine, its the bad Americanised and heartless shit (which there is a lot of) which I have a problem with.

Ever listen to the Bealtes, Bowie, Rolling Stones, The Smiths, Genesis, Prodigy, Oasis, Blur or ever watch films with British directors and acotrs or ever read a book written by an English person? I hear there are a lot of them.

>>53331

LOL. You guys think that if you ended welfare today, all the people would suddenly go get jobs.

Enjoy your fantasy world where everyone has the desire to make something of their lives.

>>53324
The whole idea that society should let itself be held hostage by potential criminals, aka we should give them lots of free stuff to prevent them from committing crimes, is predicated on the false assumption that handing them free stuff will prevent them from committing crimes.

When the truth is the people who commit the most crimes are also on welfare.

So circular logic is circular, deeply flawed and evidence of a childlike mind who is incapable of discussing issues with any modicum of honesty

But please, prove to us that putting people on welfare stops them from robbing people to pay for crack, because I"d love to see them statistics.

The truth is that people on welfare are there because they feel entitled to things they haven't earned, and are addicted to illicit substances which propel them into a life of crime to feed their addiction, or they were raised in a crime heavy population and find the black market and the money to be made there too compelling to bother actually working for anything in their lives but by all means, support your assertions with facts or kindly shut the fuck up moron

>>53344
Yeah sorry I don't know anything about video games apparently. And all the talent in EA is foreign of course.

>Genesis

OH I REMEMBAH
I REMEMBAH DONT WORRY WORRY
HOW CAN I EVER FORGET
IT WAS THE FIRST TIME
THE LAST TIME
WE EVER MET

BUM BUM
BUM BUM
BUM BUM
DA DA BUM BPSH

>Prodigy, Oasis

Name some more awful bands please

>>53327
>American history started a lot later than a very few Elizabethans started wearing knickers.

>Crossdressing was done by men in the theatre as female acting was frowned upon, also it was what they found hilarious for some reason.

>>53347

> When the truth is the people who commit the most crimes are also on welfare.

The only reason people on welfare commit crimes is because you're not giving them enough. If they had all they needed, they would have no incentive to commit crimes.

I know you think that sounds absurd, but guess what, if you don't give them everything they need, then you'll STILL HAVE TO PAY TO KEEP THEM IN PRISON.

Why not skip the prison part, and just give them what they need.

Oh, that's right, you just want to punish lazy people. No matter how much it actually costs society.

the best way to troll the American people is to tell the truth about their country

good job, Moore

>>53344
>implying european and british music is worth a shit nowadays

eurofag here. it's true, unless you're the special sort of faggot that listens to indie rock, that pimple on the ass of the musical world.

>>53357

PRISONS MAKE MONEY. Listen I appreciate your intentions but you're not helping be quiet.

Everyone disregard him and adress this.

>>53343

>>53357
>The only reason people on welfare commit crimes is because you're not giving them enough.

Prove it

Oh and justify morally allowing the entire society to be held essentially hostage to handing out large sums of wealth to prevent behavior that is already illegal and unethical in the first place. Because you can't.

Pretty stupid really.

Oh and one more thing:

Say we give them all that you think they deserve today, and they still commit crimes tomorrow, does that mean we just didnt' give them enough this time? And we gotta give them more next time? What's to stop them committing more crimes predicated on the concept that, well, if they commit more crimes they receive more handouts in the future?

This is about the single most dumbfuck conversation that has ever occurred on 4chan. I'm serious about that.

>>53354
Phil Collins is not our problem anymore, thank God for emmigration. Also >implying< I couldn't list a million better bands. I have no idea what you Yanks listen to if its not Lil Wayne or Young Nigz of something shit like that.

Michaeltard Mooretard makes money from this film, and is rich, therefore everything he says is factually incorrect or irrelevant. I'm amazed at how stupid you libtards are, it's like you don't even understand logic or something.

>>53373
Actually, my favorite band does just happen to be British.

Pink Floyd

But most music in today's world is trash, modern music (everything post mid 90s) is just Pop garbage basically to me. I haven't bought an album in almost two decades. And I don't download music either.

>>53366
American music these days is just as shit as La Roux or whatever the French listen to (no Daft Punk don't count, when was their last album? exactly).

>>53372
>held essentially hostage
yeah, THAT'S what's happening

there aren't ANY welfare recipients who are in genuine need!

>>53377

So if he conducted his research and made his documentaries absolutely free he'd be more believable? But what about getting his message out to a larger audience? If he just made youtube documentaries nobody would know who the fuck he is.