because talking points

Because "socialism" and "communism" aren't scaring enough people anymore.

>>368901

Because that's all they can do: compare things they don't like to Hitler.

Because they're liars.

Because they know they can get away with it because the people who listen to them tend to be retarded.

because fascism and monarchy is in fact the level of ideologies that a tiny group of "enlighten" people telling what rest of the population how to run their life. Whether they are nobles, or the party.

because you're gay

Because they've run out of other names to call them.

because socialism is actually been proven to increase the happiness of a nation's citizens

why did liberals do the same thing 3 years ago with Bush?

At least for fascism it's rooted in leftist ideology.

OP doesn't know anything about the political spectrum.

>>368901

>fascism
>right-wing

HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA

Yeah the NATIONAL SOCIALIST parties are the ultimate defenders of Capitalism.

why do right wingers call Obama a communist, nazi, socialist, and muslim all on the same poster or in the same sentence?

they're fucking stupid that's why

>>368993
I can't tell if you're joking or not.

Because Naomi Wolf's 10 Steps To Fascism still apply.

1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
2. Create a gulag
3. Develop a thug caste
4. Set up an internal surveillance system
5. Harass citizens' groups
6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
7. Target key individuals
8. Control the press
9. Dissent equals treason
10. Suspend the rule of law

>>369010
If you think that there is any correlation to be drawn between Fascist countries like 1930's Italy or Spain and any modern political party in America then you're too fucking stupid to live.

Because they don't like having negative ideologies associated with them, so they warp the political spectrum until all the negative ones end up on the left.

>9. Dissent equals treason
right up until Obama took power, then it was a citizens duty

Fascism doesn't mean fascism anymore, it's just used by retards to describe authoritarianism in general.

>>369001
National Socialist = socialist = communist
Hitler liked muslims and maybe you've never heard of islamic socialism?

>>369014
>1. Invoke a terrifying internal and external enemy
Hmm, like Fox News does with the Healthcare Reform?
>2. Create a gulag
Bush created Guantanamo
>3. Develop a thug caste
Military Industrial
>4. Set up an internal surveillance system
Bush's Patriot Act
>5. Harass citizens' groups
Right-wing vilifying healthcare reform advocates
Left-wing bloggers vilify Tea Partiers, but these are only bloggers whereas Fox News exacerbated the healthcare reform at the insurance corporation's headquarters this past week
>6. Engage in arbitrary detention and release
Guantanamo again
>7. Target key individuals
well I guess you get a pass on this
>8. Control the press
Fox News is now the #1 most viewed news station and has opinionated content on for all of it's primetime slots.
>9. Dissent equals treason
Covered in the Patriot Act
>10. Suspend the rule of law
Patriot Act suspending 4th Amendment

>>368993
National socialism is a combination of left and right policies. The "national" should've tipped you off.

Also, that has nothing to do with any of this.

>3. Develop a thug caste
>Military Industrial
what the fuck? Do you know what a thug caste is?

>>369077
You are retarded and need to drop out of college.

>>369100
>>369090
>mad and can't argue with me

Usually dictators dictate how their subjects should live their personal lives. Liberals seem to do that more than Conservatives in my opinion. I admit, conservatives certainly have disdain for people who are different from them, but generally they don't try to force lifestyle change through law.

>>369133
>but generally they don't try to force lifestyle change through law.

Certain people might disagree with that.

Sure is mother fucking godwing theory in here

>>369133
Conservative restraints on society:
>Can't marry if homosexual
>Can't enjoy drugs
>Can't say certain phrases or participate in particular groups included in the details of the Patriot Act

Liberal constraints on society:
>Can't die because your insurance company rejected your claim
>Can't pray in school
>Can't drive without your seatbelt on

Which is worse?

>>369077
>Bush created Guantanamo

DERP. Somebody doesn't know history...

>>369182
Conservative restraints on society:
>Can't marry if homosexual
>Can't enjoy drugs
>Can't say certain phrases or participate in particular groups included in the details of the Patriot Act

Liberal constraints on society:
>Can't eat a cheeseburger because it's bad for you
>Can't drive a car because it's bad for the planet
>Can't offend anybody because it makes them upset
>Can't send your kids to a private school because it's not fair
>Can't keep your money because other people deserve it more
>Can't own a gun because being able to protect yourself is bad
>Can't hunt because baaaaaaw animals have feelings too

fixed

>>369193
Guantanamo Bay Detention Facility founded 2002, under Bush

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A16565-2002Jan8?language=printer

yep, Washington Post, a right-leaning newspaper, I didn't even have to use a liberal source

>>369170
Well its a thread about fascism, what the fuck did you expect?

>>368901
Because liberal policies, when taken to an extreme, result in totalitarianism. See, Soviet Union, Cuba, North Korea, China.

>The state knows what's best, and if you don't agree we'll kill you!

>>369233


Conservative restraints on society:
>Actual laws

Liberal constraints on society:
>Hypothetical strawman bullshit

fixed

right-wingers get all giddy when glenn beck tells them the Nazis were called the National Socialist Party. and North Korea calls itself a Democratic People's Republic

>>369262
I like you. You used logic.

Liberals want to restrict retarded thought, conservatives want to restrict thought contradicting with their retarded thought.

>>369262

>hurrrrr durrrrr

Go live in Japan. It's a nice conservative conformist country.

>>369278
I lived in Japan for a year. I am liberal. It was great. Only complaint is that you couldn't do drugs or get gay married... but other than that it is pretty good liberal dreamworld.

>>368993

Because the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) was democratic just because it had 'democratic' in its name, right?

You're a faggot. The Nazi January 1934 labor laws gave powers to employers that they never dreamed of in the Weimar years, while destroying organized unions.

>>369260

You're a fucking idiot. That's the complete opposite of LIBERalism.

>>369262
Oh really? I guess you didn't hear about the New York "salt is bad, we're banning it in all restaurants" fiasco. Give them time and they'll keep on inventing new ways to fuck you in the ass.

Because at its root, fascism is subordination to the state. Which is precisely what "liberals" (or what passes for it in today's parlance) are going for.

Sure, it's hidden behind a facade of caring about the poor immigrant/little guy/minority/downtrodden/victim/etc, but, in reality it boils down to the idea that you don't know how to run your own life properly and the state does.

>Can't eat a cheeseburger because it's bad for you
Where is this law that restricts the diets of American citizens. Please do not link to some school board restricting the menu of schools, you'd just be retarded for doing that ;).
>Can't drive a car because it's bad for the planet
You can drive a car, it just has to be modified to meet CO2 emission standards.
>Can't offend anybody because it makes them upset
Freedom of Speech is still in effect. Again, point to which law that inhibits this.
>Can't send your kids to a private school because it's not fair
Parents can still send their kids to whichever school they want to, buddy
>Can't keep your money because other people deserve it more
Alright, but who increased overall taxes rates proportionately based on the median income in the 20th century? Hoover, Nixon, both Republicans
>Can't own a gun because being able to protect yourself is bad
2nd amendment is still around. Gun control specifically relates to ownership of automatic weapons. You don't need an assault rifle to stop a home invader.
>Can't hunt because baaaaaaw animals have feelings too
People can still hunt, and they do so quite frequently. Are you complaining about the hunting season laws? Those are put in place so animals aren't hunted into extinction, because, wait for it, you wouldn't be able to hunt them anymore.

Liberalism
>People are stupid, we need to control them
Conservatism
>People are smart, they can control themselves

Guess which one has the correct antecedent?

Because they know the people who listen to them are usually retarded and that they'll get away with it.

>>369348

Neither, because the truth is somewhere in between.

Which could be summed up as MOST people are capable of taking care of themselves.

Conservatism
>Corporations are people

>>369233
>>368980
Can't eat a cheeseburger because it's bad for you
I had one yesterday
>Can't drive a car because it's bad for the planet
I just got back from driving my car.
>Can't offend anybody because it makes them upset
Fuck you you slack jawed faggot nigger bitch. Nope, no thought police kicking down my door.
>Can't send your kids to a private school because it's not fair
UNless you um, send them to one of the thousands of private schools. Derp?
>Can't keep your money because other people deserve it more
What? My money's in my bank and in investments. Are you perhaps talking about entitlements? Go and look who votes for more of those. I'll give you a hint, they are republicans.
>Can't own a gun because being able to protect yourself is bad
I own several guns. I shoot them on state land. Some of the people I often see at my favorite spot are off duty cops. I guess you should let them know I cant have a gun since all they do is wave and talk about guns with me if i go over to them.
>Can't hunt because baaaaaaw animals have feelings too
I hunt, nobody bothers me.
Got anything else?

>>369320
>Implying it wouldn't be that way without conservatives in the game

US conservatives are closer to Khomeini's Iran than US liberals are to Stalin's Russia.

glasnost and perestroika

con-troll

>>369397