temporary reduction of unemployment levels

school shouldn't be compulsory in the first place, it's a waste of money and time to baby sit students who don't want to learn.

Bring back child labor.

>>352000
Amen to that brother. The free market is most wise.

>>351985

The point of having it be compulsory is that it prevents parents from keeping their kids at home to work in family businesses.

Impoverished families would routinely force their kids to stay at home and not go at school if school was made a choice.

No, but it won't change anything.

The true problem with the education system is the parents who don't care about their kids, and think of it as free daycare.

>>352042
im saying it shouldn't be compulsory if the kid doesn't want to go, it should be his choice, not the state, not his family's

>>352033
Yeah, but it only benefits the well-off.

>>352000

Actually, not a bad idea. Not advocating children in coal mines here, but the way labor legislation is today, anyone under 16 is useless and anyone under 18 is next to useless.

Some kids would be much happier working that going to school. For most working class jobs, high school is unnecessary. Mandatory school is another example of liberal do-goodism whose end result is negative.

>>352099

Because teaching basic skills and literacy does nothing to improve society.

>>352099

You just want to create more idiots to vote Republican.

They should lower the drop out age.

I'm a liberal but my beliefs in the sanctity of education outweigh any sympathies here. If you aren't going to graduate then get out of school and stop wasting tax dollars. Schools should get rid of drop out prevention as well.

>>352116

If you haven't taught them basic skills and literacy by high school age, you probably never will. At that point, they either can't learn or simply don't want to and it's not just going to seep in by osmosis. You could probably design an eight year curriculum that's superior to the modern 12 year and work on getting people into the workforce early, where they can learn skills and start earning money from a young age.

The modern culture of perpetual immaturity is what's ruining the West. Nobody wants to man up and work for a living anymore. Everyone wants to put off work, put off marriage, put off having kids in favor of a state of perpetual childhood and schooling. But where is that getting us? Nowhere fast, that's for sure. I'm all for being educated and constantly improving yourself, but the drive has to come from within and you need work experience to really know what it is you want to be doing with your career. You need to start off at the bottom, not get out of college at 22 (or more) with only burger frying experience and expect to rocket right to a 100k a year job.

There should be no dropout age.

In fact make it mandatory to stay in school until you get a doctorate.

>>352194
Nu labour thinking that.

They've just decided to raise it to 18 within a few years in the UK. Terrible decision. 16 is too high for some people as it is.

The hiring age and the drop out age need to be equal.

As someone sick of seeing idiot kids panhandling at bus stations and doing fuck-all with their lives at 16, I think an increased dropout age might help a few things.

>>352545
I see kids not much older than 12 doing this all the time. They just don't give a shit and forcing them to sit down in a room where they'll only hinder everyone else isn't going to work. They need to do something, but school isn't going to help if they refuse to learn.

>>352545

It won't do anything. Kids still won't go to school if they don't want to

Don't raise the school leaving age.
Lower the age of full time employment.
Encourage more apprenticeships.
Encourage youth programmes such as the boy scouts from a young age.

What we need to do is overhaul the educational system so that it doesn't suck ass until college.

But hey, we all know that's not going to happen

>>351472
If a student is having problems socially: Kid is doing it wrong

If a student is having problems educational[I mean horrible problems straight F's and D's in 10th grade...]: kill them, they will only turn out to be a waste later in life..
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>>352630
>Encourage youth programmes such as the boy scouts from a young age.

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>>352667

Einstein was a dropout, and the social world that develops in schools is bizarre and shitty in it's own right.

Why don't you just kill yourself, bro

>>352709
>Why don't you just kill yourself, bro
Because I'm not some dumbfuck working at McDonalds complaining about life and the government all because I failed at school and dropped out.

>>352709
Comparing Einstein(Who was super smart even when he was young and by the time he decided to leave school) to your average dropout(failing grades,etc) is a stupid argument.

>>352718

Well you're obviously kind of a tool, I still think you should kill yourself

I don't believe you should be allowed to drop out. They should be allowed to get rid of you if you're a worthless failure or put you into vocational training instead, but you shouldn't be allowed to drop out. The public has already invested thousands of dollars in your education, if you don't take it to a diploma the public should have the right to garnish your wages to pay back the cost of your schooling (adjusted for inflation to boot).

>>352730

Of course the average dropout isn't einstein, but dropping out doesn't necessarily sentence you to a lifetime of failure either. Some people have their reasons. That's all. Einstein did.

if some moron wants to drop out of school at 14, let them. if you get rid of compulsory school laws, the only people that would suffer are the idiots who dont do well in school all ready. they will drop out and make the lives of the kids who want to study much easier since they wont have to deal with the tards disrupting class.

You(As a children) are getting a free education(meaning you don't have to pay for it[others do through taxes])and dropping out and losing that opportunity is the stupidest thing you can do in life. Enjoy your life at [Insert_local_fastfood_place].

And on the topic of "Oh I don't want to have to waste my tax dollars on those people".. That to is a stupid argument especially when your still going to pay the same amount of money to the state, it' snot like the dropout is going to lower your taxes by hundreds of dollars.

public school should be dismantled and abolished.

it is an abomination and is destroying this country.

>>352738
>Some people have their reasons.
If their reasons are that it was to hard and they are failing out simple things like geometry, etc then they should just be killed. There isn't that many people that drop out with good reasons and are smart enough to continue into a life of success now a days.

>>352747
at the same time, it's those people who will later grow up and be the sheepie of politicians that can easily play mind games with them. Just the thought of dumb retarded ghetto people voting makes me sick.

>>352776
I don't think voting should be a right of citizenship, you should have to earn it by taking a comprehensive civics examination which must be renewed periodically like a driver's license.

>>352786
That's even worse. They'll only let you pass if you are of the mindest that you'll vote for who they want.

>>352793
.... Enjoy having your country's presidents voted in by mostly retarded people who are easily brainwashed and no nothing...


To vote:
-Need to be able to read/write
-Need to be able to pass a civics/historical exam based on our country and it's ideas(founding fathers,etc)

If you can't pass those then you don't belong here.

>>352834
>.... Enjoy having your country's presidents voted in by mostly retarded people who are easily brainwashed and no nothing...
>and no nothing...

And making them have to pass a test in order to vote will only lead to brainwashing them anyway

>>352834
Shit, even the crappy little test they make immigrants take would be better than nothing. I don't see why being born here makes us have less of a duty to know what the fuck we're taking about before voting.

>>352838
>test in order to vote will only lead to brainwashing them
Because passing a literacy and civics(which is based off the founding of this government) is brainwashing....

You people are make me want to RAGE, and yes i noticed I put no instead of know..

>>352630
That is the best alternative. Give students more options other than shoving them into a college-track pathway.
>>352709
>the social world that develops in schools is bizarre and shitty in it's own right.

Explain further.

>>352849
>having to pass a test in order to vote

This can't possible be exploited to make people only pass if they are deemed suitable to vote in a way deemed acceptable by the government who set the tests.

>>352857
>shoving them into a college-track pathway.
We really don't do that to begin with. No one forces you to take the SATs, ACTs,etc. They just want to see you make something good of your life when they try to teach you on that shit.

Also on apprenticeships I don't see how it's hard to find one... Down in the city you can find plenty of businesses willing to teach you the trade.

>>352867
see
>(which is based off the founding of this government)
there isn't much to exploit on history that has already happened.

>>352874
>No one forces you to take the SATs, ACTs,etc. They just want to see you make something good of your life when they try to teach you on that shit.

But there is however, social pressure from society and your family to get a person to college by getting you into taking your SATs.

Privatize schools.