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  • File : 1293849110.jpg-(45 KB, 561x345, liberal paradise.jpg)
    45 KB Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)21:31 No.3421220  
    will we ever see the result of liberal politics and get the liberal utopia ?
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)21:33 No.3421227
    No political ideology will ever see its full potential.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)21:34 No.3421230
    north korea
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)21:34 No.3421231
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    >>3421220

    Yep. It's been done.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)21:36 No.3421243
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    >>3421230
    Juche is its own separate, glorious, thing.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:17 No.3421426
    >>3421220

    Detroit. It's the result of liberal policies and it's full of the minorities that liberals love.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:18 No.3421431
    >>3421231
    Good Troll, 7/10 will get reaction.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:39 No.3421537
    >>3421220

    libertarian futurism

    >>3421231
    >>3421243

    liberal reality
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:41 No.3421547
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    >>3421231

    Sieg Heil
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:49 No.3421595
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    >>3421231

    Heil Hitler
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:50 No.3421600
    >>3421426
    you forgot that bastion of Liberalism called Oakland
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:55 No.3421617
    We already tried to reach the Republican utopia, but people get mad when their government and corporations are conspiring to rob them.

    People suck.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:56 No.3421621
    Utopia already exists: the Amish live it.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)22:58 No.3421626
    Liberalism will only result in Zimbabwe and South Africa.
    However, a more conservative approach will lead to this:

    http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/2010/01/singapore/jacobson-text.html

    >per capita income higher than most european countries
    >health and education systems rivaling the west
    >90% home ownership
    >low taxes
    >clean streets
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:02 No.3421640
    >>3421220
    This is the problem with Liberalism: unabashed and naive idealism.

    They actually believe they can remold human nature (which was produced by hundreds of of thousands of years of evolution), and magically create a society that works out in reality just as well as it works theoretically.

    You fucking cunts need to be more pragmatic.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:03 No.3421644
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    >liberal utopia
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:03 No.3421645
    >>3421640
    Lol, conservatives don't even believe in evolution.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:09 No.3421668
    >>3421645
    Regardless of their political opponents beliefs, liberals DO believe in evolution. Yet they're happy to conveniently overlook it when they dream up grand illusions of reshaping the way humans interact with each other.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:09 No.3421670
    >>3421640
    Liberals aren't the only naive idiots. There are two kinds of idealism in regards to politics and history.

    Reactionary idealism: the idea that history can be reversed or frozen, and should be (conservative specialty).

    Teleological idealism: the idea that history is progressing in a specific, human-designed direction and that people can constantly improve things (liberal/prog specialty).
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:10 No.3421676
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    LOL NO x1
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:11 No.3421677
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    LOL NO x2
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:11 No.3421679
    >>3421626
    Singapore only has a few million people. Systems like that do not easily scale.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:11 No.3421682
    Brett Favre is a nigger!
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:11 No.3421683
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    LOL NO x3
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:12 No.3421689
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    LOL NO
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:14 No.3421697
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    LOL NO

    [spoiler]i'm done, enjoy your overly cut spending and witnessing the fall of an empire[/spoiler]
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:16 No.3421702
    Yeah, it's called Scandinavia in the late 80s/early 90s before their white guilt caused them to let in millions of sandnigger rapists who want only to destroy the fruits of liberalism. For Scandinavia 2.0, we'll have mandatory racial pride courses for every citizen twice a week.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:17 No.3421705
    You had your chance with the USSR.
    You had your chance with Cuba.
    You had your chance with South Africa.
    You had your chance with Vietnam.

    Why are these places shitholes?
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:19 No.3421715
    >>3421705
    inb4

    HURRRR DURRRR WASN'T DONE RIGHT
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:20 No.3421719
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    >>3421705

    >Revolutionary bolshevist communism
    >Liberal
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:21 No.3421721
    >>3421626
    Perhaps the most troubling problem facing the nation is a result of its overly successful population control program, which ran in the 1970s with the slogan "Two Is Enough." Today Singaporeans are simply not reproducing, so the country must depend on immigrants to keep the population growing. The government offers baby bonuses and long maternity leaves, but nothing will help unless Singaporeans start having more sex. According to a poll by the Durex condom company, Singaporeans have less intercourse than almost any other country on Earth. "We are shrinking in our population," the MM says. "Our fertility rate is 1.29. It is a worrying factor." This could be the fatal error in the Singapore Model: The eventual extinction of Singaporeans.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:21 No.3421722
    >>3421705

    >mfw all of these countries have comparably better economies, percentage-wise, in growth compared to their western counterparts.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:23 No.3421729
    It's funny,because the only place on this earth that currently only has the realistic potential to look like OP's pic is Dubai,the polar opposite of a liberal utopia.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:25 No.3421738
    >>3421626
    "Singapore is like a warm bath. You sink in, slit your wrists, your lifeblood floats away, but hey, it's warm."

    Nice.
    >> Mature Related !K/L9IJgMJY 12/31/10(Fri)23:25 No.3421740
    >>3421705
    interesting fact about cuba, 90% of food is locally grown organic stuff, haters gonna hate on the healthy.

    >>3421626
    <bubble gun is illegal
    <trafficing is a death sentence
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:25 No.3421741
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    >>3421679
    Also Singapore is a city state that imports most of it's resources and generally people who process resources are richer than those who extract them due to greater sophistication and need for efficiency. That's not the point though, most of the population of developed countries are urbanized and Singapore still does better, and if something can't be extrapolated into a large scale, then it can be repeated. Maybe we need lots of Singapores.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:26 No.3421742
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    >>3421722
    are you seriously this retarded?

    or are you going to offer any citations here?
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:28 No.3421748
    There is an internal contradiction you are not addressing.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:28 No.3421752
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    >>3421722
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:29 No.3421762
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    >>3421740
    >claims Cuba grows it's own healthy food
    >people still starving
    >people still flee for the "unhealthy" food of the U.S.

    sure is paradise.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:31 No.3421766
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    >trolling /new/
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:33 No.3421775
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    >>3421766
    >get blasted apart
    >claim you were a troll
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:33 No.3421778
    >>3421729

    You forgot China and pretty much every country in eastern Asia. Though China is more of a bubble, it's a fucking bubble made of steel and diamond.

    Imagine an America that upgraded from a culture of 200 year old building everywhere and fucking ancient scrolls for reading, to a country that has over 100 NYC-sized cities with better infrastructure than anywhere else in the planet. More internet users, and more highly educated people than there are people who will ever live in the USA.

    Welcome to China within the past 10 years. Where apartment complexes outnumber people and 3000mile long 80-lane highways are being developed faster than a skilled group of Americans can build a single household.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:35 No.3421790
    >>3421742
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_real_GDP_growth_rate

    Russia's much worse then most, but growth wise Vietnam and Cuba are positive, while South Africa, while negative, is still better then others.

    Though I think it's silly to judge a country solely by its economy. (China, there, is doing better then others, but I seriously doubt many here would want to catch the first flight there.)

    There's more to a good country then a high GDP.
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:36 No.3421796
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    OP, didn't you know? North Korea has been a worker's paradise since 1948.
    >> Inurdaes !V1sPhobos. 12/31/10(Fri)23:46 No.3421836
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    >>3421220
    Venus Project =/= Liberals
    It's more futuristic post-scarcity anarcho-communism.

    And fucking lol at the people that actually think liberal means left
    >> Anonymous 12/31/10(Fri)23:58 No.3421887
    >>3421796

    >Implying you'd rather work the nighshift under flourescent lighting rather than sleep 10 hours.



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