God fucking dammit, I hate Americans.

>>3419652
God fucking dammit, I hate Europeans.

>UCWUTIDIDTHARBRO?

bump

>npr
>radical socialist propaganda
Nigger, what?

Right winger here, NPR is the only non-internet media I listen to. If some negro comes on, or some pro-immigration traitor, I either learn about the enemy, or flip to music. Its a price you have to pay for quality news; sometimes you have to listen to those you disagree with.

SESAME STREET IS A RADICAL MARXIST CONCEPT

>>3419652
Why?

NPR tries to be neutral but its definitely leftist.

>>3419652
So, you hate Americans because they don't want their tax dollars being spent on a mouthpiece for the government's views?

You are one enlightened and cool motherfucker.
You should reward yourself with another pair of skinny jeans and a pbr.

>>3419679
Mr. Rogers is the reason why we have a culture of entitlement. Too many people think they are "special"

If I went down to my locally funded station could I sign up for air time?

if yes: keep it.

if no: get rid of it. Since it is public we should all have equal access to the podium that is the air waves.

ITT: people wishing for more Fox News

Also, you people are aware that most of their funding comes from tax deductible donation, not from taxes, right? That's why they have those annoying pledge drives.

>>3419679
You say this as a joke but it's actually rue, it prepares kids to accept a multicultural communal lifestyle instead of preaching individualism and ethnic interests. Shows like Sesame Street were the beginning of the downfall of the white christian way of life.

>>3419678
You should probably learn basic American history if you think that being pro-immigration makes a person a traitor... not that you really need to know about it to supersize my fries.

>>3419699

Well, that is your opinion. I respect you and your opinion but I must disagree. I hope this doesn't cause problems in the future for us.

>>3419716

>individualism and ethnic interests
>christian way of life

Pick one or depose your radical communist messiah, Jesus Christ.

>>3419727
I know it quite well, actually. We once had standards and quotas and controlled who came into our country.

>>3419739
Leftists always like to sya Jesus was a socialist but this couldn't be farther from thr truth. Jesus believed in personal salvation, he was an individualist above all things. Christianity teaches that man can only be saved if he voluntarily gives his life for Christ. A real christian would never force anyone to do anything they wouldn't want to.

Its funny how NPR and the BBC are both government funded but also have the most balanced and well thought out coverage of news events. Commercial news media is too interested in a cheap buck so they focus on sensationalist fluff news or partisan hackery

>>3419699
>is too young to remember Mr rogers

He pretty much spent the entire show explaining random shit like how to tie a bow or that television isnt real.

>>3419753
Actually it was quite the opposite. In the 1800s and early 1900s there was virtually no standards or restrictions for being able to immigrate here legally.

>>3419760
>has never read the bible


seriously though, go and check it out sometime

>>3419753
>proves that he knows nothing about basic American history

And no ice in my rootbeer please.

>>3419774
Not on Irishmen or Germans, no.

>>3419760
"A camel has a greater chance of passing through the eye of a needle, than a rich man has to getting into heaven"

-Jesus Christ

Sounds pretty socialist to me

and I'm a conservative

lol npr is like the opposite of propaganda, I live in San Francisco so its basically music to my ears whenever i turn it on

Haters gonna hate.

>>3419766
I have seen Mr. Rogers and when he is in his home he is clearly a pedophile and when he is in the fantasy kingdom he is clearly tripping on acid. Both ideas supported by the radical left

>>3419760

Giving your life for Christ meant working for the community around you, helping the poor and sick while preaching his word.

Socialism.

Ok, so people want to defund NPR...but why?

NPR is slightly left, sure, but it is still the least radical and biased news source on the planet.

I see no argument presented.

Even if NPR doesn't have a poltical stance on issues, I don't care for the idea of state approved media. I don't listen to them all that much, but they get a majority of their funding voluntarily...why not just up that to 100%?

>>3419798
Jesus told that man to give his money away to the poor. The rich man would not and left. This shows that the man was too attached to his wealth to attain salvation.

The moral being that material wealth is meaningless. Early Christians would often give away their money and free their slaves.

Having a state collect a portion of your money and give it away to some faceless person is not charity. Its just paying another tax, which is something you must do, but not something that will save you.

>>3419807
the same reason why they want to defund the Smithsonian because they provided wall space to an ant-covered jesus.....because republicans are butthurt, and apparently they are god's chosen warriors

>>3419807
The argument is that its govt funded and its left leaning. News should never be publically funded

morons who think public broadcasting isn't socialist driven and a huge waste of tax dollars are pretty fuckin dumb.

http://defundpublicbroadcasting.org/
>Funded on the sly by News Corp, courtesy of Rupert Murdoch

As a confirmed centrist I can honestly say that NPR is not nearly as left as Fox news is right. And the important part of NPR is not political - it's getting to hear stories you won't hear anywhere else.

And they do a pretty good job giving both sides a say. You have to give 'em that.

Good troll, OP, my blood pressure rose and you harshed my buzz.

>>3419760
I have to disagree. Christianity IS socialist. instead of a gun (or at the time, a sword) Christ compelled us with threats of eternal suffering.

Let the lefties have Christ.

Nope, i like my World Cafe and Wait Wait Don't Tell Me. Plus, Car Talk is useful.

>>3419828
So Jesus threatened eternal damnation if the guy didn't give his money to a bunch of lazy sandniggers?

What a socialist douchebag

I demand my propaganda come not from the government, but rather the business interests that have had it seized firmly by the balls for the last 200 years instead. It means a world of difference to me and everyone else, I'm sure.

These broadcasters are clearly a propaganda apparatus of the state, that's why their target demographic comprises utterly none of mainstream America,

>>3419845
Agreed its the christian fundies that are ruining the right anyway.

>>3419841
YEAH, AND HIGHWAYS ARE SOCIALIST TOO! STOP REPAIRING THE FUCKIN' ROADS, OBAMA!

Seriously, You're fucked.

How do people not see this for what it is? an attempt to silence the political opposition by killing off their means of communication!

This kind of shit will never take off.

Fox would never allow intelligent discussion like there is on Talk of the Nation, especially their science Friday episodes.

>>3419868

News and information aren't a shared resource. Roads are to some degree, and I wouldn't have a problem privatizing them. Would make them more efficient. Great red herring though.

>>3419843 self-confirmed centrist

Why do we even act like centrism is a virtue? America's typical Left-Right paradigm ignores the far left Europeans, and the Minarchistrs and Anarchists, as well as African warlords and Totalitarians. Even if you stick to America, the label "Centrist" doesn't have much context...it's either a way to say "I'm above it all because I can't make hard decisions" for "I'm scared to admit how far Left I am," or Rockefeller Republicans to mask their fascism.

>>3419878
why should Fox waste time with science when they broadcast to a bunch of hicks?

that's just basic business 101 there....they know who their target audience is

>>3419878
But NPR has those and it mostly funded via donations. Just cut the public funding. Simple enough.

Wasn't Pennsylvania where they were talking about the backwards gun nuts? They should be available next election, to the relief of the GOP.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40854695/ns/local_news-delaware_valley_panj/

If you think NPR is bad, then you are braindead. They play really good music too.

I'd rather de-fund Al-Hurra instead of NPR

Fun fact: the guy currently in charge of NPR is a conservative Republican, and has done a lot to bring the programming back to the political center in the last few years.

NPR = COMMUNIST DOGSHIT

>>3419944
NPR isn't bad, but PBS is still out there.
Katy Perry too hot for kids? They must also let fat women decide things for them.

What the hell? NPR is probably the least biased, and they've done a fair bit for conservative views as well. I bet this whole thing is to destroy anything not under the immediate yoke of ZOG.

They did ruin NOVA for the last two years though. It used to be great, but now it's crap. Still... leave NPR alone.

ITT: Imbeciles.

Would you rather listen to private broadcasting radio, just to hear someone's one sided opinions?

Grow up, pack your bags, get an education, and move to a MAJOR U.S. City (Boston, New York, Chicago, San Francisco, Seattle). Only then will you realise that NPR is god-tier.

All of you liberal-bashers make me sick, you probably don't even make more than 50k a year and yet you support a party filled with corporation and a political party that runs like the mafia

LIBERALS WILL ONE DAY RULE THE WORLD, DEAL WITH IT! LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE LIBERALS GONNA LIBERATE

>defund public broadcasting
Yeah, let's have more corporate media where advertisers and the White House call all the shots.

>>3419944
Fun fact: I don't give a shit! I don't want my taxes going to media.

>>3419989
Really? I thought Fox News and Limbaugh were racist because they DON'T agree with the White House talking points.

>>3420003
>Can't see how in the end, the White House's proposals are just rehashed GOP proposals, all backed by corporate money now as it was in the 90's.

NPR not bias? They fired Juan Williams for being honest about newsworthy events

>>3420003
>Fun fact: I don't give a shit! I don't want my taxes going to media.

That's nice.
I on the other hand do.
So what now because it appears we're at an impasse.

>>3420003
Fox's entire schtick is that they're supposed to be the right wing counterpart to all of the "biased liberal media" (what a total joke that is), but when it comes down to the things that matter, they toe the line just like the rest of them.

>>3420021
NPR has a policy of not providing opinions on current events. Williams violated this MULTIPLE times, even after being warned. He got what was coming to him, Foxcunt.

Republicanfag here, I actually love NPR.
Sure, it's got a lot of human interest stories with somewhat lopsided commentary, but it goes out of its way to be fair to the republican opinions and one of the most informative radio channels out there.

Though I do have to point out they did call anti-Bush anti-war people "protesters" back in the day, but referred to anti-Obama Tea-partiers as "dissidents". That's the only thing that got me a little mad when they aired it. On balance it's a great radio network and I listen to it everyday.

>>3420067
You mean he violated their liberal stance on issues multiple times

>>3420027
I guess you stop stealing my money to pay for your media.

>>3420108
>neutrality = liberal stance

>>3420108
sure...why not

although all the evidence you have is your conservative feelings

>>3420091
At least the obvious rhetoric is unusual enough to catch your attention. If you listened to Pacifica or something, it's always the same complaining about capitalists.

>>3420119

Holy shit, what a concept! You mean people can keep their own money and each pay for the things they want rather than foisting the costs on someone else?

That's simply amazing. It's like a perfect solution to the problem of how to use resources which tends to result in people taking advantage of each other. It's really a tragedy, you know, deciding what to do with common goods...

>>3420168
>Every man is an island, nothing others do need affect anyone else, society is a liberal construct going back to Sumeria...

>>3420108
>>3420122
Reality/neutrality has as liberal bias, apparently. Facts are things Fox News viewers have never been too fond of. :)

I watch the PBS news-hour, Charlie Rose and the McLaughlin Group. Bite me OP. PBS rules I'm fine with funding it with my tax dollars >:3

>>3420119
>I guess you stop stealing my money to pay for your media.

A democracy by definition is coercion of the minority by the majority, deal with it or change the constitution.

>>3420449
>inb4 hurrdurr republic.

It doesnt matter how you structure it, a majority rule system behaves this way,

>>3420449 implying the U.S. Constitution allows for this.

>>3420471

It does, implictly. It gives protection for minority parties, but in the end the voice of the majority coerces the minority into submission. The 45% of the people that voted for McCain don't get to have their own personal president, they are coerced into chosing against their wishes. The people that vote for or against a law are still required to abide by the final result.

>Television broadcasts free.
>Television broadcasts free with ads.
>Television broadcasts free with ads or by subscription.
>Television broadcasts free with ads or by subscription with ads.
>Free television pushed digital with ads or by subscription with ads
>NPR still mostly without commercials.

NPR > Turner/Comcast/etc

the free market is the only entity capable of providing objective news reporting

NPR and PRI is god tier

KQED listener reporting the only thing on the air worth listening too. Except maybe christian AM radio when you are drunk

>>3420183
>implying I implied that
>implying that people can't cooperate without having an organization that confiscates their resources under threat of violence to use them for things only tenuously related to anything those people care about

>>3420484
But the constitution doesn't just say "majority rule, fight it out, lol" There are defined powers for congress in article 1 section 8. And I don't see "to subsidize media" anywhere in it.

>>3419636
hey fauxnewsfag. this is idontwatchnewsfag. the equivalent amount of taxes that each american pays for NPR is less than $.70 . Yah 70 FUCKING CENTS. how about you bitch about something that someone cares about? like a bailout maybe.

>>3420530
Doesn't have a lot of subsidies authorized in it, but stocks would be down dramatically if they went away.

I'm a conservative, semi-libertarian and I support NPR with actual money because I believe it is the least biased news source out there...

That being said, I do agree that government funding shouldn't go to media outlets, or most of anything. That money should be given back to me in the form of tax cuts, so that I can decide to give it to NPR.

However, this goes against the true idea that our government should be supporting media of ALL types. The question is, are there other media entities besides NPR and PBS that receive government funding. They exist, and they won't lose funding.

Without a doubt, this lawmaker just hates NPR and is trying to get rid of it.

NPR and PBS are the only good mainstream sources of American news.

Not surprising idiots want to defund them.

http://www.facebook.com/EndNPR

*White
*Male
*Boomer generation or older

HAHAHHAHA FAGGOTS

>>3420530
Thats not happening though.

Congress is given constitutional authority to set the budget for the United States. Congress legally appropriated a portion of the budget to NSF and other legally mandated federal institutions. Those institution UNDER THEIR CONGRESSIONAL MANDATE appropriate funds for organizations in line with that mandate, NPR falls under that category (NSF funds science fridays for instance) for several federal institutions.

Your money isn't being stolen, it is appropriated legally by the people the majority elects.

You can either change the mandate or get rid of the NSF, both of which requires majority rule (in the form of elected representatives) to do, since the majority thus far supports both the NSF and its current mandate you are shit out of luck.You can also sue the NSF (or bring it to the attention of a congressional committee) if you believe the NSF is violating its congressional mandate, thus far no such challenge has been successful.

anything else?

>>3420549

>Mainstream American news
>Good

Pick one.

>>3420563
>your post
>good

Pick one.

I can't believe my tax money is being FORCED to go to leftist organizations like this.

Hopefully, we cut their throats with the new congress. America is a conservative nation. Get the fuck out if you don't like it.

>>3420534
Good, then it won't be that hard to get along without public funding.

>>3420539
And how does this address my statement?

>>3420558

I forgot to add, you are also able to legally challenge the constitutionality of federal institutions like the NSF has so far held up all challenges. As long as congress continues to fund it (again you can petition congress to refuse to fund it) it can exist.

>>3420586
can you name one thing that makes it a radical left organization? Or are you just jumping upon the elephant's back again?

>>3420484

The people who acknowledge this and say "deal with it" are correct, that is how things work and you pretty much have to take it or leave it if most people support it. The point of criticizing it is to point out that it's a shitty system, better ones have been thought of, and it'd be nice if people at least considered them.

>>3420605

The point is, it is not stealing, when legally collected funds (through legally mandated CONSTITUTIONAL taxation) is appropriated to legally mandated institutions, which then legally distribute them according to their mandate. It isn't stealing, its democracy.

>>3420558
Where does article 1 section 8 allow for the NSF? You're still arguing "my opinion is more popular, therefore, I win"

>>3419699
Fox News called, they need their talking head back.

>Mr. Rogers is the reason why we have a culture of entitlement. Too many people think they are "special"

I suppose you'd prefer the dystopian extreme where everyone is either a worthless drone or dead, Mr. death cult radical? There is nothing wrong with raising your children to have positive self esteme. You just can't leave them in front of the television like 99% of all failed parents do, you have to teach them the subtle differences between the life lessons described in tv land and how the world actually works.

>So, you hate Americans because they don't want their tax dollars being spent on a mouthpiece for the government's views?

I hate to break it to you but that's how nearly every station works. They are nearly all getting kick backs and subsidies and agree to conform to government rules and regulations and they all push little gems of propaganda in between their state approved music. It's a business like any other.

Honestly, you guys need to stop fighting each other. In no other country than the united states has the power elite successfully managed to pit the poor against the poor. Democrats and Republicans are just lables attached used to dress up scapegoats. These are created by people with guilty consciences so they can deny the things they are personally responsible for.

>>3420651
/thread

>>3420629
>Where does article 1 section 8 allow for the NSF? You're still arguing "my opinion is more popular, therefore, I win"

Explicitly? Nowhere. But congress and the executive branch has interpreted its role as allowing the mandate of federal institutions like the NSF and the Supreme court and the people of the united states (majority) have thus far acknowledged the constitutionality of their actions. It therefore meets the legal requirement of constitutionality, if not your personal definition.

Now that we have settled that, anything else?

>>3420689
I love you.

>>3420689
No, since you keep referring back to rule of majority. If congress interprets the sun as green, it doesn't mean it's green.

>>3420776
>Congress and the Supreme Court

>>3420776
>Congress
>interpreting
I don't think you know how the Constitution works, son.

Which is hilarious, really, because you're probably one of the teabaggers who would slobber on the Constitution's dick if it had one.

>>3420707
IS DAT SOME TAEYEON?
김 태연 화이팅!!~~ ^_^

>>3420776
Doesn't mean the sun is green, but it does mean a green sun is the law of the land. The first amendment does protect you against being persecuted by the government for saying the sun is white or yellow or blue or red or whatever color you happen to think it is.

>>3420805
I'm simply referring to what you/he said

>But congress and the executive branch has interpreted its role as allowing the mandate of federal institutions like the NSF

ITT: It biased unless it supports my political opinion.

Ethics be damned

take you Far-Right wing cause somewhere else.

End Wingnut the war on facts

>>3420812 but it does mean a green sun is the law of the land

Just because something is legislated, doesn't make it right.

>>3420824
>Ethics be damned

sounds like a Liberal to me.

>>3420841
nice conspiracy theory bro!

if it doesn't support my opinion and supports facts which could possibly be inconvenient to my opinion then it is on the side of my enemy.

get over yourself. Your absolutist argument doesn't have any ground to stand on.

>>3419636
>Socalist propaganda. only Right Wing Fringe groups say that kind of crap.

>>3420834
Government isn't about what's good or right, it's about what's legal.

For every post in this thread I'm going to donate a dollar to NPR. I'm fucking serious.

>>3420886
That's why we have politics: so we can determine what is good and right to legislate.

But if you just want to go along with what the government says, I have the perfect song for you http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agexr88YHFE

>>3420834
don't like it then get the fuck out of america
we don't need your kind here

>>3420988
I bet you said the same thing when Bush was in office...cuz you're consistent, right?

>>3420912
Enjoy your wasted money just to spite people on the internet

You are a sad, pathetic little man

>>3420998
yep

Wait Wait Don't Tell Me and A Prairie Home Companion are worthy of my taxes.

>>3420912
Then excuse me as i reply needlessly, NPRfriend

How can we defend what is already dead

bump for NPR love

Fox news and MSNBC are much worse than PBS, although NPR isn't stimulating a lot of the time imo.

Fox isn't government funded and it is worse.

Government propaganda sucks but propaganda in a free press (Fox/MSNBC/CBS) is even worse.

Liberal bias or not, NPR informs and educates its listeners better than other major news sources. This simple fact alone should be enough to end this entire discussion.

>>3421761
>inform and educate

Not legitimate government functions. Defund it.

>>3421768
Yeah except for government funded public schools though. Whoops?

>>3421783
No, not except. Including.

>>3421768

To bad it satisfies the NSF mandate, so its their prerogative.

>>3421070

>A Prairie Home Companion

I really don't get why this is so popular. It bores the shit out of me. I fucking love Wait Wait though.

For me, Wait Wait, All Things Considered, Science Friday and of course just their general reporting are worth my tax dollars. That in addition to the wealth of wonderful content provided by my member station, KPCC in Pasadena. Admittedly KPCC's own broadcasters tend to lean left, but I enjoy that viewpoint once in a while when the rest of the news is either right-wing, crazy idealist left-wing that doesn't criticize Democrats, or busy talking about celebrities and surfing squirrels.

I guess the reason I like NPR is that they actually talk about real fucking news. I can't stand TV news because it's all stupid celebrity shit and a weather report every fucking half hour and the same stories over and fucking over and fucking over. NPR provides me with not only a variety of news, but a wealth of important news I don't hear about on other channels from not only this country but around the world.

I truly think informing and educating are mandatory government functions. NPR needs to be left alone.

I'm not going to bother scrolling through the thread but in case it hasn't been mentioned NPR receives funding from corporations and so is a spineless, biased, shit spouting source of news. Same with PBS, which USED to have some good things on it.

http://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2010/10/19

Good independent media = democracynow, commondreams, raw story, alternet (kind of), and I'll just mention al-Jazeera. READ GREENWALD too.

Shitty media masquerading as independent = npr, PBS, C-SPAN, Drudge Report, and Infowars

>>3421810

>I truly think informing and educating are mandatory government functions. NPR needs to be left alone.

Why should I have to pay for your ideologue crap? If you like NPR, fine, listen to them. Buy products from their advertisers. But DON'T expect me to fork out money so you can have your opinions. I wouldn't do that to you.

>>3419636
OP is a beautiful troll. Ever since value politics was mastered with the GOP's attack of Clinton, the president who's only fault was being cooler than them. Now some people are so blinded by their hate of obtuse ideas want to cut funding for hours of free information and programing provided at limited cost while their corporate masters get zero interest loans for gambling our futures away.

Anyone who believes they should take funds away for the purpose of public broadcasting is either trying to profit from it's absence in the market, or someone who's been convince they will--masters and slaves.

>>3421810
>I really don't get why this is so popular. It bores the shit out of me.
It's basically a feel-good program for old people, of course it's popular. I don't know many people my age who like it, but there are plenty of geezers who lap that shit up. That said, I do enjoy their "Guy Noir, Private Eye" skits whenever I hear them.

>I guess the reason I like NPR is that they actually talk about real fucking news
My favorite segments are when they have live debates from two opposing parties. To be fair, NPR has a lot of those boring, obscure, artsy programs (at least in California) that I couldn't give less of a shit about. If they filtered out that junk and just pumped in more news, I'd be happy as a clam.

>>3421810 I really don't get why this is so popular. It bores the shit out of me. I fucking love Wait Wait though.

Fucking serious...

>>3421839
>if it doesn't lead every story with "Evil capitalists.." then it's not real news

>>3421845
A fraction of a cent back in my pocket every year. Couldn't give less of a fuck about the public being informed; you could broadcast totally objective news on every network 24/7 and people would still be dumber than shit.

>>3421857
I used to listed to it when I was running between auctions every weekend, it seemed entertaining enough for the car at the time. The movie came out and either the quality changed or I found better things to do, even the Lake Wobegon podcasts are too boring to listen to.

But, there's the music.. it's never been good.

>>3421857
>My favorite segments are when they have live debates from two opposing parties.

Yea, I like those too...and I like most of the political interviews. I don't listen as often as I should, but I still don't believe in government subsidizing it.

Oh, and splenda table pisses me off for some reason...I think it's the way the host carries herself, and the fact that she sounds like she's orgasming when she's talking about food. That, or she has the typical "look at how cultured I am" attitude. Oh well, I still gotta try that vanilla ice cream + sea salt and olive oil thing.

>>3419636
Why should I? NPR is of higher quality than their competition.

What Next I ask DE-FUND THE US MILITARY?
Makes about as much sense!

>>3421857

BBC World Have Your Say is usually good for passing the time. If public broadcasting didn't carry BBC, I doubt any ClearChannel or CBS Radio channel would.