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    File : 1264639280.jpg-(86 KB, 535x580, ZINN.jpg)
    86 KB Goodnight Sweet Prince. Anonymous of College Park,MD 01/27/10(Wed)19:41 No.32210  
    >Howard Zinn, the Boston University historian and political activist who was an early opponent of US involvement in Vietnam and a leading faculty critic of BU president John Silber, died of a heart attack today in Santa Monica, Calif, where he was traveling, his family said. He was 87.

    >"His writings have changed the consciousness of a generation, and helped open new paths to understanding and its crucial meaning for our lives," Noam Chomsky, the left-wing activist and MIT professor, once wrote of Dr. Zinn. "When action has been called for, one could always be confident that he would be on the front lines, an example and trustworthy guide."

    >For Dr. Zinn, activism was a natural extension of the revisionist brand of history he taught. Dr. Zinn's best-known book, "A People's History of the United States" (1980), had for its heroes not the Founding Fathers -- many of them slaveholders and deeply attached to the status quo, as Dr. Zinn was quick to point out -- but rather the farmers of Shays' Rebellion and the union organizers of the 1930s.

    >As he wrote in his autobiography, "You Can't Be Neutral on a Moving Train" (1994), "From the start, my teaching was infused with my own history. I would try to be fair to other points of view, but I wanted more than 'objectivity'; I wanted students to leave my classes not just better informed, but more prepared to relinquish the safety of silence, more prepared to speak up, to act against injustice wherever they saw it. This, of course, was a recipe for trouble."

    Howard Zinn (1922-2010)

    Source: http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2010/01/howard_zinn_his.html
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:42 No.32223
    See ya later you fucking Commie piece of shit
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:44 No.32247
    >BU

    XD
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:44 No.32254
    FUCK YES, ANOTHER ANTI-AMERICAN FAGGOT WHO WAS ONLY ABLE TO WRITE WHAT HE DID UNDER THE PROTECTION OF OUR OWN FREEDOMS IS DEAD.

    DRINKS ON ME EVERYONE.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:45 No.32262
    >>32223
    Yeah how dare he write books about regular Americans and their struggles and not rich WASPs
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:45 No.32263
    one less idiot is always a good thing.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:47 No.32278
    >>32254

    >>A People's History of the United States" (1980), had for its heroes not the Founding Fathers -- many of them slaveholders and deeply attached to the status quo, as Dr. Zinn was quick to point out -- but rather the farmers of Shays' Rebellion and the union organizers of the 1930s.

    That sound very pro-American to me, or at least pro-main-street-America vs wall-street America
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:48 No.32289
    >>32210
    RIP
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:48 No.32294
    >>32263
    >implying howard zinn wasn't 10x smarter than your sorry ass

    I thought you conservatives hated the government, why so rage at this guy?

    Oh right you only hate the government when it tries to implement social programs that help Americans, you love it when it starts unnecessary wars.

    I almost forgot.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:49 No.32305
    >>32278
    Yeah um union organizers aren't main street america

    They're just the mob trying to turn legit

    They're basically the reason main street america is falling apart
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:49 No.32312
    >>32278
    Condemning the Founding Fathers because many of them had what are now considered antiquiated views strikes me as asinine. Besides, what good have unions done for this country? Unions have become "the man". Unions drive jobs overseas and they've seized control of an entire state, a state they running into the ground.

    Good riddance.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:49 No.32313
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    the only good kike is a dead kike
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:50 No.32319
    well at least theres a FEW pro-zinn people on this board...

    ive got a little radio show, what's the best audio or media of howard zinn that i can share a clip of to honor him?
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:53 No.32347
    Gotta love the generation of 50s marxist historians. It was the last time history as a science was relevant in itself.
    >> Anonymous of College Park,MD 01/27/10(Wed)19:54 No.32368
    >>32319
    A radio show? Do you have a link to it?

    Oh and send any random clip to us.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)19:57 No.32390
    >>32312
    the founding fathers were slave-beating oligarchs occupying stolen Indian lands and fussing about relativity elitist grievances with the British monarchy
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:00 No.32414
    >>32390
    Yes, but they made the country that you now live in. The same country that allows you to speak out without fear of getting shot. Be grateful.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:01 No.32428
    >>32390

    Yeah all of the freedom of speech stuff and pursuit of happiness stuff was just a bunch of pandering, eh?

    Change? Now look where we are, if this is change I'll happily return to the days colonial British empire where at least everyone was genuine all the time.

    FAGGOT.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:03 No.32443
    >>32414
    PROTIP: there are several dozens of countries across the pond that allow you to speak without getting shot. Like France.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:06 No.32465
    >>32428
    Howard Zinn focused on the suffering, death and genocide of millions that occurred from the US rather than the rights the founding oligarchs bestowed on Americas white elite. While White Americans were happy to be slightly ahead of the curve of free speech, millions died in the cancerous spread of the US settlement west and the immorally long lingering state of slavery.

    For several decades during the 19th century, millions of Americans dreamed of (and died trying) fleeing the US for freedom along the underground railroad.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:07 No.32470
    >>32443
    And? Are you implying that early European rulers were better than our Founding Fathers in their morals? I don't think so.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:08 No.32490
    >>32465
    Yes, Howard Zinn focused on the past and pretending he was forward looking, all while wagging his finger and asserting no one was moral because apparently sins of the grandfather pass to the grandson

    Basically he was a piece of shit and you defending him is laughable.

    Fuck him.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:09 No.32502
    chomsky > zinn

    /thread
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:10 No.32504
    >>32470
    >in their morals?

    The protagonists of the French revolution were pretty much the vanguard which outlined the path we strive to follow today. They were even atheist ffs while some of the fathers were religious fanatics.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:11 No.32519
    >>32470
    European Leaders were just as bad as American ones in that they were responsible for starting/continuing the colonization(genocide) across the globe, the US side of things is mostly just an extension of that European brutality, only it became independent brutality rather than taking orders from abroad.

    The first real democracy was New Zealand
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:12 No.32533
    >>32368
    sorry, bro. i know better then to leave a trail of breadcrumbs to my identity on 4chan... besides, its sloppy anyway.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:12 No.32534
    >>32504
    >The protagonists of the French revolution were pretty much the vanguard which outlined the path

    Ah, no, they were the vanguard of what socialists follow today

    Because you are raving lunatics who want to cut the heads off the evil rich people who you still think want you to be happy just eating cake
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:12 No.32536
    RIP
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:16 No.32583
    >>32262
    Except that WASP is an antiquated term and you should never use it again.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:17 No.32593
    >>32583
    It's an important term because it reminds (Americans) that American history goes back 50,000 years, the period of WASP invasion is only the most recent few centuries and it clarifies the very real racial boundaries
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:18 No.32604
    >>32254
    i hope you fucking die tonight faggot.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:19 No.32610
    >>32504
    We don't strive to be athiests. Athiests are on the outskirts of american society, where they belong. Being religious is fundamentally american, if you dislike this then rather than wasting your time trying to discredit and destroy religion you should just move to europe. At least until the muslims fill the religion vacuum left behind in the wake of the european's athiesm binge. Then you might want to go to canada.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:19 No.32611
    >>32534
    your improper reference to "let them eat cake" shows your unfamiliarity to the subject.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:19 No.32612
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    >that American history goes back 50,000 years
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:20 No.32622
    >>32593
    No it doesn't. American history goes back 400 years, because- surprise faggot! There was no fucking america before Jamestown. Just because liberals and trolls and morons like to pretend the name american belonged to the red savages doesn't make it true. I am an american, they are just red men.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:23 No.32650
    >>32610
    Europe isnt Athiest, and the countries with most most non-religious people actually have the least muslims (Czech Republic, Norway, Iceland) while the ones where it's 95% catholic have higher. Migrants go to places there are jobs like Germany and Italy, not to places where there are athiests

    Europeans are cultural christians but dont take the actual folklore seriously (which is a pretty rational choice).

    Christianity doesnt belong in America, if you want to be American and religious, join an Indian Pow-wow
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:26 No.32670
    >>32622

    No it doesn't. American history goes back 130 years, because- surprise faggot! There was no fucking america before Ying-Jao 14 PLA Occupation Zone. Just because liberals and trolls and morons like to pretend the name
    "Janquijang" belonged to the white savages doesn't make it true. I am a Chinese, they are just white men.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:27 No.32682
    >>32670
    It would be awesome if China occupied the US actually
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:28 No.32689
    >>32670
    what is this even a reference to? a video game? link or something or you are misunderstood by, probably everyone (or at least me).
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:29 No.32704
    >>32689
    Protip: White people dont belong outside Europe. In Europe, white people create culture and civilisation, outside they create death and dark ages
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:31 No.32726
    >>32704
    Except in South africa and austrailia and new zealand and america and canada and argentina etc. Basically look at how south africa was when it was ruled by whites and now look at it- it is a shithole. Also if this is your opinion then we by that same opinion shouldn't let non-whites into white countries.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:32 No.32734
    >>32504
    There was also a ton of bloodshed in the French Revolution. Most of it was probably unnecessary. ie, The Terror and The Great Terror. >>32519
    That was my point. I just wanted to point out that early European leaders were just as bad as early American, just in different ways. So thank you anon.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:37 No.32781
    He deserved to die younger and more painfully.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:41 No.32826
    >>32726
    All of those nations had horrible genocides and land thefts and South Africa turned into a segregated shithole when the white trash started invading

    US+Canada = 60+ million dead and exterminated,
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:44 No.32864
    >>32781
    I actually met him a few years ago at his place, he wasnt in any pain and loved talking to us (me and some hot commie Boston college girls)

    Sorry your psychopathic fantasies didnt come true
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:47 No.32894
    I do feel a little bad with how the natives turned out, as a white guy.

    They used to be brave warriors of legend. Now they are drunk wastes of space.

    White people just fuck any race they meet into alcoholism and thievery.
    >> Anonymous 01/27/10(Wed)20:50 No.32939
    Guy had the balls to tell the story of American history thorough the eyes of the majority. He will be missed.



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