republicans at it again trying to blame a kid and his thoughtful dad for something that no one else objected to

Yes, some kid repeating what his dad told him into a microphone is the end of the fucking world. PLANES ARE FALLING OUT OF THE FUCKING SKIES BECAUSE OF THIS.

Poor guy. He'll probably lose his job over this. There is nothing unsafe about it, but both the ATC and his supervisor (2 people with the qualifications, knowledge and experience to know exactly what they were doing) are going to get hell because someone who knows jack shit about aviation thinks that it sounds unsafe.

>There is nothing unsafe about it
Yes, because it's totally and absolutely safe to allow a 5 year old to direct planes with hundreds of people on it. I'd be super pissed if I were on one of those planes. They put my life in the hands of a child instead of a professional pilot. What the fuck.

>>270115
implying its the air traffic controller flying the plane

>>270115

Yeah, you're right. I bet the pilots would have said the kind of things they did if they were danger. The dad probably had his son talking down planes with both pilots dead and a terrified passenger at the helm.

In fact, I'm fairly confident I died on one of those flights.

>>270115

The kid was only repeating what his dad told him. Stop being a paranoid fuck.

Considering how well NY's state government operates, This kid is doing a amazing job.

>>270127
No, but they do in fact *gasp* control the air traffic flow! I know, I was shocked when I found that out too. They're important in directing planes.

>>270134
I'm arguing that it's unsafe and not fair for the passengers of a flight to be subjected to a kid giving orders from air traffic control. Nothing went wrong, but it's still not safe nor a smart thing to do. These guys went through years of training to be authorized to do what they do.

Pilot here. The kid was obviously doing what his dad said to him, and did a good job of it to boot. If the people who worry about this listen to what people say over the radio sometimes there would be mass hysteria.

>Kid repeats what dad tells him
>Pilots seem genuinely cool with this
>Everyone is happy
>... except those assholes who had bad childhoods.

>>270167
The dad was still controlling, just letting his son (and the pilots by the sound of it) have a bit of fun. number 1 rule of aviation; if the pilot has any reason to deem something unsafe, it is his say on what to do including going against ATC.

>>270167
>this is what uptight republicans actually believe

You people don't know a fucking thing.

The ATC Tower is FULL of people so that one person, or one kid, cannot mess anything up. This guy was one among dozens of staff.

NOTHING bad could have happened, the Tower is always kept under full control, they even have dudes with binoculars.

>>270227
>they even have dudes with binoculars
Shit just got real.

It created a distraction.

Yes, no harm done now, but it's better to nip this in the bud and address the issue that these people aren't supposed to be goofing off while on the job like this.

>>270227
>they even have dudes with binoculars.

Why did I laugh so hard, god damn.

FAA officials pictured here.

>>270254
What distraction did it create?

If the kid did not repeat what he was supposed to in the microphone, it would have been immediately corrected.

If he did, then no harm. Pilots are not Star Trek robots that self-detruct when Kirk goes all paradox on them.

>>270275
If you heard the audio recordings, you can hear how the pilots are going "what the fuck" while they hear a kid giving them instructions.

Again, no harm done right now, but keep your child at home and do your damn job properly.

ZOMG THAT LITTLE KID COULD HAVE TOTALLY ORDERED THOSE GUYS TO FLY INTO STUFF!

BETTER GET THE EFF BEE EYE INVOLVED!

>>270286
And yet no harm done by the what the fuck.

Pilots are not stupid robots, which is why we still use them.

>>270286
It still doesn't make much sense. Would they have to turn down a prospective new employee if the person sounded like a child on the radio?

>>270305
Still, you don't want a pilot on a plane you're traveling on to bring his child on board and have him do the landing now, would you?

Yes, extreme example, but the point stands. Take your job seriously or don't do it at all. Want to screw around on the job? Be a comedian. Not an Air Traffic Controller.

>>270329
>NO Fun Zone

>Compared landing a plane to giving voice commands

>Thinks giving a child a little excitement with no actual risk is screwing around

>Poster is clearly a robot

>Take your job seriously or don't do it at all.

ha, I bet you're real fun to be with at the office.

>>270339
>Poster is clearly Dick Cheney

fix'd

LoL Stupid Americans.

>>270329
I'd argue that MOST jobs could be done by children, with enough guidance. It's not like a degree even means anything more than doing what you've been doing for 12 years already.

Very few government jobs require ANY critical thinking, prove me wrong.

>>270384
The most important part was that everyone in the tower would have been aware of the kid. Their supervisor clearly had no reason to believe the kid could have comprimised the safety of the ATC.

If the kid was misbehaving or there was an emergency, he would have been removed immediately.

>>270186
I'm not uptight nor a republican lol.
I just don't like the idea of someone untrained/no qualified to direct traffic flow directing the plane I am on.

ITT: We're uptight or in the "no fun" zone for not wanting an unqualified kid directing the plane we're on and worried about the implications of safety and what it could mean to future travelers and their lives.

Jesus christ, /new/. This sort of shit shouldn't happen, plain and simple. It's unsafe, unprofessional, and unfair to the people that PAID to have a professional pilot and techs to take them to their destination.

This never would of happened if REAGAN hadn't fired all the air traffic controllers back in the 80's.

>>270725
>>270688
If you think this kid was a threat to air traffic safety then you guys as dumber as the mouth breathers who think Saddam had WMDs.

>>270760
>This sort of shit shouldn't happen, plain and simple. It's >unsafe, unprofessional, and unfair to the people that >PAID to have a professional pilot and techs to take >them to their destination.

ITT idiots soccer moms that think a single child could actually disrupt ATC procedures.

>>269979
I love how this report implies that "OMG KIDZ WERE DIRECTING PLAINS!!!"
When in reality the kids were just repeating what their parent was saying.
It's not like the actual air traffic controller could take back their place in a second.

...and now there's talk about having senate hearings...oh christ...let the government get involved..there's a great idea.

>>270765
>It's unsafe

keep thinking that retard

You guys are all retarded. Fucking christ, the fact of the matter is, this shit shouldn't happen.
"HERP DERP AIR TRAFFIC CONTROL IS SMART ENOUGH TO TAKE BACK THEIR SEATS IF THE KID SAID SOMETHING WRONG DERP"
That's not the fucking point.

>>270780
Okay, then taking out the unsafe part because you obviously think it's a-okay to have a kid directing air traffic, considering that he isn't even the least bit qualified to do so, realize at the very least that it's unprofessional and unfair to the other passengers who maybe didn't want a kid to direct their plane. When you're in a plane, your life is in the hands of the pilot and the air traffic control. Some of the passengers might have been okay with this, but it's unfair to them to assume all of them were okay with it when they placed their money and lives in the hand of the pilots and techs from air traffic control, not in a kid.

This report is such hogwash and nothing should happen to these people. It would be one thing if they had a kid controlling incoming airplanes, but that obviously wasnt what was happening all the kid did was just tell some planes they were ok to proceed to their runway under the eye of his father. No harm done in a harmless situation

What the hell is so unprofessional about this? Everything seems to have been conducted in a professional manner. The supervisor was aware of the controller bringing his child and he could be removed at a moment's notice and was simply repeating what was to be said.

No wonder you guys are all ronery faggots, you are all complete bored who think fun always comprimises safety. I bet mommy and daddy didn't ever let you even turn on the car until you were 16.

>>270814
It IS unprofessional conduct. I doubt they got the okay from all the passengers before they allowed the kid to do this.

ITT Pansies who were coddled by mom and dad and now post on a racist pornographic website while complaining about professionalism.

I bet the people freaking out about this are the ones who think there is nothing wrong with 80 year old white couples taking off their shoes and throwing away their bottles of pepsi before getting on a plane.

hahaha 4chan acting like they know what professional conduct is.

There was nothing unprofessional about this as long as the controller had prior persmission from his superiors.

ITT: Inconsiderate douchebags

>>270820
Passengers do not dictate ATC procedure. If you don't like it, then don't fly.

>>270820
You sound like a soccer mom afraid of her shadow. They dont need to talk to the passengers because the conversations between the ATC and the pilot are between them and them only. It doesnt matter if one, half or the entire plane wants to know what is being said by who ever is the ATC is, it does not involve them

can't believe no one has noticed the writer's name

>>270841
They may not dictate ATC procedures, but they still go on a plane expecting the actual ATC to direct their flights. I would have been so angry if I had been on one of these planes. It's inconsiderate and unfair to the passengers to assume that it's fine with everyone on the plane.

I didn't realize /new/ was so buttfuck retarded.

>>270848
>Wahhh, I'm gonna whine about something that would have had absolutely no impact on me as a passenger.

Exactly what do you think could have happened? The kid mashes a panel and the secret NSA self-destruct sequence goes off? Shit doesn't work that way moron. You have bigger fish to fry in the aviation world like inadequate maintenece and inspections of aircraft. Stop whining about your inconsequential boogiemen fears.

>>270867
I'd be angry after the fact knowing that shit like this even happens. It just shouldn't.

>>270848
Oh would you be angry? Bet you wouldnt have been angry the day before this got released because you had no idea that a kid had told the plane to go to the runway for departure because cause everything went procedurally correct and no problems happened. So in effect you would be raging after the fact about a non issue

>>270879
Way to delete your post.
>>270873
>I'd be angry after the fact knowing that shit like this even happens. It just shouldn't.

>>270877
Sorry, changed the wording a little. But my point is the same. I find it irrational to rage about a safe situation in which a child was observed in just stating a routine procedure. The fact is that if nothing was said, you would not be angry, and therefore your rage is unhealthy because it focuses on a problem that never was

Wow, you guys a bunch of whining faggots. This is why I hate mainstream media and retarded Americans, instead of paying attention to the ongoing debate about healthcare and/or republican obstructionism you guys jizz a load of sensationalist bullshit like this. After 2 weeks of arguing over how "TOTALLY UNPROFESSIONAL" it is for a kid to repeat what his dad told him you guys latch onto some other dumbshit like a fucking balloon flying in the sky for three weeks. And you wonder why our country is slowing going to shit, because you fuckers don't pay attention to anything important .

>>270897
It IS an issue though. Why should this stuff even happen?

>>270904

WHY DOES IT MATTER?

>>270847
I guess it's safe to say that Air Traffic Controller's kid got.......... Grounded

>>270907
It has implications if people just think that this stuff is okay. What if pilots start bringing their kids on a plane, thinking it's alright for a kid to press buttons which operate the plane? "Oh, but it's alright! The pilot told him which buttons to push!"
Same principle. Just because nothing bad happened this time doesn't mean it would be the same the next time.

>>270907
Because the big baby who spends his evening on 4chan thinks he understands how the world of work functions.

If he recieved permission from his superiors then you have no fucking say at all except to not fly and go cry on a letterhead to your senator.

>>270924
Same principle still stands.

>>270920
Slippery slope fallacy

>>270921

Not threads you fucking moron. I'm talking about outside the bubble of 4chan you retarded fuck. What do you think is going to attract more viewers: a healthcare debate or a wildy sensationalist report of how a child repeated shit his father said.

>>270934
Jesus, dude. Stop deleting your post. Nobody cares if you misspelled a word. At least, I don't. That's a stupid thing to point out.

>>270920

>wont ever let his kid hold onto the steering wheel while going 10mph

>>270947
>Implying an endeavor between you and your own kid is the same as one pilot, a kid, and millions of passengers who were unaware.

>>270955
>implying a kid flew an airplane
>is a retarded dumbass faggot nigger jew whose probably fat and whines about everything

>>270917

maybe they were afraid he would be... kidding around

>>270957
Insults =/= argument

>>270943
>deleting your post
...

>>270963
>insults = argument, faggot

whats wrong with teaching kids a future skill, people always blowing shit out of proportion

>>270920
There is a difference between allowing a child to do one of the simplest mundane acts of a job in an extremely limited sense and actually allowing a child any real responsibility over the job. Its no different than any other bring your child to work day, you can let the kid do some of the very simple tasks just so he can experience it but you would never bring them to a real serious meeting or do any sort of meaningful work on a project. By your logic any bring your child to work day is a potential disaster

>>270965
I don't get what you're trying to point out. He deleted his previous post that said the exact same thing, only a word was incorrect.

Anyone who actually thinks this is going to lead to kids flying airplanes is fucking dumb.

A kid would never get permission to fly the plane with daddy because despite what you circle jerk to on blogs, the people running the ATC towers and the FAA are not stupid.

The reason this kid was let into the ATC tower was because there was no risk of harm or inconvience. But don't let that get in the way. Continue to beleive in invisible threats and invisible sky magicians.

>>270973
I'm a pilot. I'm going to bring my child to work and tell him which buttons make the plane move. I'm also going to let him press them, so he can experience what I do everyday! Yay! Isn't flying fun?!

>>270984

Too bad flying a plane doesn't just involve pressing buttons. The kid did pretty much the same thing as turning on a plane using your dumb retarded analogy.

>>270975
Seems like your internet rage is overwhelming, I think you should drink some nice tea and mellow out

it's safe to say the being an air traffic controller is not... child's play

My dad was in construction.

Operating a crane with him as a kid was fun.

Too bad I turned into a white collar :|

wow, Americans really have become a nation of babies.

If you are going to complain, complain about things that actually impact you, like not getting health care.

All I read is a bunch of idiots who think actually think this is going to lead to kids flying your planes and think the two are even remotely comparable.

>>270917
>>271000

YEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>triple zero get

>>270879
I think you have a point, often times humans are reactionary to events that happened in the past and didnt actually negatively affect them but once they know after the fact they rage or fearful. I have my own personal story of a news reporter trying to elicit this rage/fear response about an event that I had no previous knowledge about and didnt effect me in any way.

I work in the downtown area of Denver and work in a very tall building with a bank at the bottom. One day a couple months ago I was going out with some co-workers for lunch and there was a TV reporter looking to interview someone, the lady picked me and I was fine with it. She asked me what I thought about the bank being robbed a couple days before at my building. This was the first I ever heard of it so I basically said to her "news to me". She asked me some questions about what I thought about it and didnt have much to offer obviously, then she asked me if I felt less safe. I responded that since I had no clue I had no reason to feel any less safe. Then she said "well now that you do know, do you feel less safe?" I responded that I feel exactly the same as I did before I knew, nothing changed in my life so I really have no reason to be fearful, in fact if there is anything I should be worried about it would be every time I commute to and from work because statistically I am at far more risk being harmed in a car accident than from any bank robber. Our interview ended, but it was quite amazing how she tried to prod me towards the sensationalistic fear response that she wanted from the interview.

This man and his supervisor should be fired immediately

>>271069
If she asked almost anyone else they probably would have said "OMG bank robbers everywhere, I might get shot tomarrow so I better not leave my house"

>>271261
Better get a security system too!

And locks for your windows!

Don't forget to get a mean looking dog and train him to be viscious and be surprised when he mauls your child.

Oh and don't forget to demand more police and CCTV.

Don't forget to bring a taser with you at all times.

Also get a car alarm that pisses off all the neighbours!

Republifags hate for people to have any fun on their jobs. They just want silent functional cog.

>>271302
Jobs are not meant to be fun, they are meant to be work

>>271360

.
Funny how rich people always have fun on the job.

>>271360
You have made it clear that you are incapable of doing both.

Enjoy being two standard deviations below the average IQ.

>>271384
Rich people worked hard for where they are and that hard serious work has paid off and now they can have fun when they take vacations or buy the things they want.