>They call us liberals because we're all about liberty!!!!!!!!!

>honeslty thinks any of that will happen.

imokwiththis.jpg

HELL YEAH! I can't wait to go to the heartland of South Dak---FUCK

I mean really?

Does it matter?

The fuck all this train will do is infest the clean areas of the usa with niggers

220mph trains by 2015? Too good to be true. I call bs.

If anyone is still wondering why these threads get made, here's the reason:

General Electric (GE) has many contracts with the government, and constantly tries to expand their monopoly privilege by any means necessary, which includes lobbying congress. Coincidentally, GE has also been pushing 'green technology' with government subsidies in mind (since these technologies are only ever "profitable" when their cost is subsidized). A large part of its current lobbying efforts concentrates on promoting high-speed rail transport in America, and to this end GE has been actively distributing propaganda among certain leftist communities on the internet (such as 4chan).

If you need an explanation for the absence of high-speed rail in America, the reason is because it, like green technology, is unprofitable. Say fuck to crony capitalism.

>>2533205
nah brah, nigs are afraid of water.

You really think they're going anywhere near a 220mph train?

>>no Chicago--->beachtowns--->grand rapids---->east lansing--->detroit


That sucks.

>>2533229
>implying that in 60 years when there is little oil left, meaning that there will be no longer any plane travel, trains won't take over as the main means of travel in the U.S.

>>2533205
>clean areas
>usa

pick one

Because SO MANY people need to travel between Seattle and BOISE IDAHO.

I think this shit looks pretty awesome. Vancouverfag here... I think taking a train to San Diego in a short period of time would e awesome.

>>2533263
>in 60 years
deal with it

>>2533271
they don't but if it's built they will

>>2533266

Fuck you, outside of the cities the U.S. is one of the cleanest countries on the planet.

Omaha resident here.

I'm wondering why there is no passenger rail service at all in des moines. I had to take the bus there before and surprisingly the bus was completely packed.

yeah, that chicago-milwaukee-minneapolis line isnt gonna be built once Wisconsin inevitably elects a republican governor in november

>>2533322
that fact that buses exist and are much cheaper than rail is the reason we don't need rail

>>2533334
none of these except for the northeast corridor have any chance.

>>2533322
>I'm wondering why there is no passenger rail service at all in des moines.

Have you considered that maybe it's because fuck all people live in Iowa?

yay i will finally be able to get to baraboo in a matter of minutes

>>2533334
oh fuck off
im the baraboo guy from above

>>2533345
oh yeah no, I'm one of the anti train fags, but I do enjoy regular trains and would take them every once awhile. I have no problem with buses, I was just trying to suggest a regular route would get some passengers.

I was recently in germany for 10 days, not impressed with the train system and now I appreciate private transportation even more.

>>2533334
yeah, they arent even gonna get the 90 mi segment between milwaukee and madison built now, much less so all the way across the state

They're building this now because they already know that the time when Americans will not be able to afford cars is coming.

>>2533399
it no doubt would get some passengers, but the cost to tax payers in addition to the ticket price would be much more than private bus companies currently charge

I'm going to tie women to train tracks until they're forced to shut them down to stop the bloodshed.

>>2533386
if it were high speed why would they have it stop in baraboo? That would seem to defeat the purpose of getting to one large city to another quickly

How can you be against trains, like, really

>>2533460
>>2533460
>tracks
Wait.. THESE AREN'T MAGLEVS?

>>2533481
Maglevs are fucking stupid.

>>2533460
>implying the tracks will be built

not when Megabus tickets are 10 dollars, i'm not

>>2533477
you're just happy because now you'll be able to spread your filthy canadian seed all over seattle even faster
KEEP SEATTLE VANCOUVERITE SEED FREE
KEEP SEATTLE PURE
SAY FUCK TO HIGH SPEED RAIL

>>2533477
I would support the trains if they were exact replicas of the Thomas the Tank Engine cast.

>>2533477
because we are pro spending our money on stuff we would actually use, we all have cars making trains a waste of money

>Boise

What the fuck? Why would anyone want to go to Boise?

>>2533481

Sorry, I'm kind of ignorant of trains.

Fucking maglevs, how do they work?

>>2533524
cars suck, fyi

its pretty great to ride the train to work and school

>>2533205
Do you think they'll be able to afford high speed?

Japan ticket cost 60 AUD I remember on Kyoto to Tokyo.

>>2533093
Congratulations USA!

Now you can be better then Japan at the one area they topped you in.

>>2533481

Nobody wastes their money on maglev, except as a show technology on extremely short runs. It's never been practical.

>>2533536
its even great that I can walk to my university, but if I need to go to anywhere that i want to go I can drive there, it doesnt even have to be on a predetermined track

Buffalofag here, curious as to why this failed backwater city needs highspeed rail?

>>2533537
>better
hurrdurr

>>2533525
These are the same people that want to build a line between Toledo and Detroit.

Feel free to ignore them.

>>2533563
It's on the way to Toronto so they said fuck it let's let them on and out of that hell hole

I know that this is ridiculous.

I know it's a waste of money.

But I know this will be awesome.

great! so whos paying?

OH FUCKING WAIT

>>2533563
because the australians said so.

The green rail lines are already paid for. I work for a company that's going to build in the Chicago corridor.
This is a done deal. The other rails are iffy though.

Only lines even needed are:

Chicago - Philly - New York
Boston - New York - DC
Texas Triangle
Seattle - Bay Area - LA
Maybe some shit in Florida

Anything else is a waste

>>2533509

Megabus is the fucking shit. You can get like $2 tickets and it gets you there faster than AMTRACK TRAINS

>>2533671

http://www.politifact.com/wisconsin/statements/2010/oct/07/raymond-lahood/transportation-secretary-r
aymond-lahood-says-nothi/

>>2533672
>Chicago - Philly - New York

do you know how fucking expensive that would be?

Why don't the Eurofags overlay a map of their little Muzzie shithole "country" over the map of the US and see once and for all why we don't want or need highspeed rail all over our great nation?

It's bad enough that half the US semen supply goes to feed the starving Eurabians.

>>2533702
Trainfags just spend government money

they don't have to earn it, they just let government steal it

>>2533684
there are good inter-city bus rates all over the place, all privately owned and cheaper that the train rates would be

>>2533672

>seattle over any other major city including major ports like New Orleans

You're a fucking retard dude

>a 220mph train between Omaha, NE and Des Moines, IA

we are glad you enjoy our chinese built trains

>>2533724
we enjoy all our chinese made crap thanks

>>2533724
Enjoy America does, after all Chinese workers help build the first Trans-continental railroad.

>>2533724
the one they are planning for Illinois-Wisconsin-Minnesota they bought the trains from Spain, and paid way more than what american companies would have charged, thats the beauty of spending other people's tax money

>>2533722
think of that more as a KC - Omaha - Des Moine - Minneapolis route.

>>2533750
those chinese were american residents though, so it is a bit different

>>2533760
still sounds pretty pointless

kilometers of railways by country:

1. US: 226427
2. Russia: 87157
3. China: 77834

From the CIA world factbook

You even fucking trying world?

>>2533777
the best part is that most of america's rail is privately owned and not supported by taxpayers

>Implying I'll ever use it.
I'm not a fag. I'll take my mustang. Thanks.

>>2533842
>Implying Obama won't require you do it

>>2533859
luckily Obama will be long gone if any track is even made

>>2533842
>I'm not a fag
>drives a mustang
fuckin lol

>>2533877
>implying they haven't drafted amendments to remove term limits for presidents of color due to racism.

Fake map presenting pipe dreams of asspies. Nobody cares.

>>2533897
>implying he will get a 2nd term

>>2533921
>Implying the election won't be stolen, and it will be the last free election

>pic related

If anyones curious, here is the current passenger rail service.

http://tickets.amtrak.com/secure/content/routeatlas/index.html

and see what I meant about des moines. The current system has the rail between Omaha and Chicago goes through uninhabited parts of Iowa, they didn't even bother to go to cedar rapids or davenport. Now I'm not suggesting they need to lay new track, just wondering what they were thinking.

I wonder if people carried on when Eisenhower started the Interstate Highway System. That shit was straight socialism.

Most modern day conservatives seem to envy the days of horse drawn coaches and wish to return to those days.

>>2534045
>Implying the interstate wasn't built for fighting commies if they invaded

>>2533920

The stuff labeled green has already started construction. I know.

>>2534082
a very small portion of it has

>>2533883
>implying that driving a muscle car makes one a fag.

>>2534045

a system that would better commerce, an ideal that conservatives embrace, would anger conservatives?

lolwut?

Only 220mph? -_-;
If the US is going to build the rail ways why go for such a slow ass speed?

I need to find an industry that hasn't worked for the United States for 100 years, but still gets massive subsidies.

I know! I can start making lead paint!

I have a question for the trainfags-

When this doesn't pan out as you promise it will, will you lay on the tracks in shame?

sage for not news

>>2534045
>implying people wouldnt have built private roads if they had been given the chance

>>2534119
>would better commerce
Bullshit, the private sector would have build it if this were true, and done it better.

>>2534126
the proposed trains actually go about 80-90mph no where near 220

>>2534173

You are smoking crack.

>>2534126
>implying 220mph not fast for HSR
>220mph is faster than all of the HSR in Japan
>maglev in Shanghai is the only train in China that goes faster than 220mph
God you are stupid as fuck.

>-_-;
Oh I understand now.

>>2533131
You better hope it fucking does.

- Military production cuts
- Socialised car industry
- NASA is a joke
- Lack of urban amplification
- Soon to be socialised airline industry
- Shipyard development scrapped

If shit doesn't shape up for the heavy Tech industry we might start seeing significant brain drain starting in the next 10 years, and as an electrical engineer (well, almost) I'm worried my potential job with Boeing is going to go bye-bye unless orders for production models and their parts increase and the market for new models gets better. Graduation day with no job offers is not somewhere I want to be, even if at this point that's still unlikely, I still worry since it doesn't take much for heavy tech industries to up and disappear.

>>2534222
he was probably used to seeing train speeds in km/hr

>>2534203
show me a source that says these trains are going to go anywhere close to 220mph. I know the technology exists, but the tracks currently planned are not supposed to be much fatser than highway speeds, and when you take into account the stops and the not actually taking you to the spot you want they are generally slower than driving while costing more

>>2534237
>Soon to be socialised airline industry
This I approve of. The airlines in the US are getting fucking out of hand.

>>2534241
That still doesnt excuse him from being an idiot though.

>>2534237
Then again I've been described as "extremely pessimistic" before, so I could just be blowing out of proportion.


Btw, I'm eating Pasta with meat sauce and it's delicious.

>>2534258
NORMALLY, I would approve of socialising an industry full of douchebags, but I know that the gov. will run it right into the ground (historically speaking governments around the world have a tendency to fuck airlines up fairly quickly) and I don't want the US to lose those jobs.

>>2534237
Are you a natural born U.S. Citizen? You should try to apply to position for companies like Lockheed, Raytheon, Department of Defense, or Northrop Grumman. They are always looking for engineers and since you normally need a TS/SCI, those Indian and Chinese engineers on H1b's can't get in. There application process is extremely slow though, takes 3 months just to hear from them and even longer to get your DoD security clearance.

Terrorist are going to have a hay-day with this shit

>>2534355
>Implying there won't be TSA bullshit just like on airports.

>>2534257
>while costing more

Depends on the asshole that's running it. The ticket is probably going to be much cheaper than renting a car, it's also going to be cheaper than driving my own (assuming I had one) when you factor in maintenance that will have to be done after long distance (out of state) wear and tear and gas, pit stops, snacks and the like.

I think you're being unfair, high speed (or in this case medium speed) rail can help a lot of people, just give it a shot, if it works and is fine and makes people happy, then great, if it's shitty I'll be the first to start cussing it out and damning the whole concept to hell.

Well, actually, I'll do that anyways, I fucking hate trains.

>>2534383
>much cheaper than renting a car
but the vast majority of americans own cars, so it is stupid to compare it to renting, a ticket would cost more than the gas it would take to drive the distance much of the time

>>2534352
>Are you a natural born U.S. Citizen?

Technically speaking, yes.

As for the rest of that, everyone in my class has been applting everywhere since last semester, and a few of the places I applied to did in fact show interest in hiring me BUT, since I have no experience it's mostly low paying positions. Boeing on the other hand is offering me 1 year in BIH with a mid level position after that at BCA with the possibility to enter BDS within 6 years(counting the one in BIH).

cool. a multibillionaire dollar project that no one will use

>>2534161
>implying the private even does anything anymore
Most American companies are in the service industry. America doesn't actually make tangible things anymore. Its time for the government to step up.

>>2534502
>but the vast majority of americans own cars

I don't and I'm using myself as a comparison, I would have to rent/borrow.

2030? I can't wait!

>>2534383
you have to realize, a lot of people here actually -like- the idea of high speed trains, for certain routes anyway (texas triangle etc) as long as they are privately funded

however there is this one australian aspie whos been going around on this cover-the-continent-very-town-(literally)-with-trains rampage for months, so its basically become reflex to trash trains, no matter what

>>2534383
Not in Florida

>>2534557
>implying government red tape and enforced monopolies are not the reason for that

>>2534564
the thing is all americans (especially the ones who have cars) would be paying for the train not just the fringe that doesnt drive

>>2534546
IF they do it right people will, but they probably won;t do it right, as usual.

>>2534598
even in the best case scenario they are not projected to be heavily used in most areas

>>2534588
This is a problem because ... ?

>>2534566
>a lot of people here actually -like- the idea of high speed trains

I do realise that I also realise that a it can potentially help many people by providing them with a cheaper alternative to private transport, which is why I'm giving it a shot and not bashing the shit out of the concept, but I still really dislike riding in any train that isn't a subway.

>>2534626
so yeah it might be nice for you who while you mooch off of everyone else, but for most americans it would be a huge waste of money as they would never need it, if you can't see the problem with that it is pretty sad

Fucking bullshit. No high speed rail from Pensacola to Tampa so I can just take a train to see the Lightning until I'm almost 50? fucking bullshit.

>>2534621
Oh, then they're doing it right, they SHOULD start small and in areas that have a high number of commuters (IE-LA-SD comes to mind), if they do it on a large cross country scale I don't see it succeeding economically.

>>2534640
>I still really dislike riding in any train that isn't a subway

Agreed, I took a 2 day train trip in Greece a few years ago, shit sucked fucking balls.

>>2534575
Nah regulations have nothing to do with it. That is the bullshit that faux news tells you. Its because we allowed ourselves to become a debt based economy, where the average person can take outrageous loans and mortgages without any hope of paying them back.

America democratically said they didn't want to work physical labor jobs. That pretty much leaves the engineering and software development sector that actually produces stuff, any most people aren't cut out to work in that industry.

If I was president I'd make loans illegal. If you can't afford it you don't get it. You would see a lot of stuff change quickly and it would be for the better. First off living beyond your means creates artificial demand so eliminating debt will lower prices. Also it would get people back to work since being able to leave beyond your means creates incentive to be unproductive.

There is my solution and I believe it is really as easy as that.

>>2534675
well you sound reasonable then, it too bad the politicians are not thinking like you at all

>>2534588
Wait wait wait, the Government is going to build this? Shit is doomed regardless of your opinion.

I'm Pro Train and Anti Skub

>>2534706
>implying that that problem is mutually exclusive to the previously mention problem and they are not actually both major factors

>>2534714
Why the fuck would they think differently? The US doesn't really have a strong train riding culture, you can't just up and expect everyone to start using this thing it's too unconventional and removed from peoples minds, you have to build it up through word of mouth and seek public approval in dense areas first.....going all out is just asinine.

LOL @ MT, WY, NE, SD and ND being left out. No one cares about your shitty states.

>>2534716
>Shit is doomed regardless of your opinion.

VERY MUCH AGREE, governments do not do a good job at running businesses, services, sure, I like cops and I like fire departments, but this is a damn business, it's not a little subway that goes from street a to street b, it's a cross country, massively expensive, high maintenance and tech heavy tool, it needs to make money.

>>2534706
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>>2534656
The difference between road and rail here is what exactly? Some fuckers nowhere near you paid towards the construction and upkeep of the roads in your town that they've never used and probably never will..

>>2534814
you dont know how roads are financed do you?

>>2534756
Omaha is in Nebraska

>>2534752
do you not know anything about american politics?

>>2534814
most local roads are paid for locally, and if we hypothetically didnt have roads then train would be a great idea, but we already have an extensive road system thereby making additional passenger rail unnecessary and unwarranted

You guys just don't get it. Yes, personal transportation works for you now because the cost of cars and fuel is artificially low. Your government is getting desperate for a way out of the financial black hole that you've created and fuel duty is just begging to be the answer to that.
Pretty soon your government will have to increase fuel duty which means that not only running but making cars is going to get a lot more expensive. The same applies to air travel. It doesn't apply, to the same extent, to rail travel, all of which means the way you travel now IS going to change. Whichever redneck Republican or yoghurt-eating liberal you elect, this IS going to happen.
When railways were invented, people thought they would only be useful for shifting coal from the colliery to the port. When cars were invented, people thought they would only ever be an enjoyable but ultimately useless toy for the extremely wealthy.
You can't see any need for your long-distance trains because you haven't got the imagination to realise that, 20 years from now, at least some of the network shown won't just be useful, it'll be essential for both passengers and freight. You should be grateful that you've got a government that realises this and is acting on it.

ITT: We praise a system that probably will be late, overbudget, and inconvenent.

>>2534893
That Interstate in your back yard was funded by and is still funded by people that are nowhere near it and will never use it. I suppose that it's ok for you to use those facilities paid for by other taxpayers, but not for you to pay for their facilities, right?

Man, the Rockies are going to fuck with that Denver-SLC line. Gonna be some engineering, I tell you what.