>Are there really hordes of people living their entire lives on the dole? Why the hell are you okay with that?
We're chillaxed like that.

>>244423

D'awwwwww.

>pays you enough to live comfortably

I really fucking doubt it. what's the monthly rate?

Sup Amerifriend,

>As I understand it, it's like American unemployment assistance, except you can be on it forever, and it pays enough for you to live comfortably.

Yep.

>All you have to do it go to a job training interview every month or something like that.

All you have to do is attend an interview at a job centre every week where they ask you what jobs you applied for. Very easy system to game.

>What the fuck kind of incentive to find a job is that? Shouldn't you just kick them off of it at some point for being lazy moochers?

Common sense would suggest that, but the UK is a socialist shithole.

>Are there really hordes of people living their entire lives on the dole?

Yes. There are households and families where not a single member has ever worked. Entire generations are spawned where nobody works.

>Why the hell are you okay with that?

I'm not. I've moved to Texas. Most britfags are stuck, I wish more of the productive britfags would move out of there and let the parasites feed off each other.

It is £50 a week, what sort of life you could have on that is debatable. You have to prove that you are actively seeking a job every week or you wont get the cash, how easy or hard that is is another debatable point.
Realistically there are not hordes of people on it but the media like to portray it as such( There are some places where there are more people on it some places with less)

>>244449
>200 pounds a month

Okay come the fuck on. The only thing that kind of money is doing is buying groceries.

I live in canada. When I was on welfare the most they would give me was 590 bucks a month.

350 to rent a room, 100 for utilities, 100 for groceries, and 40 for miscellaneous needs.

No one lives "comfortably" on the dole, stop being a bunch of fags over it.

>>244444
>What the fuck kind of incentive to find a job is that? Shouldn't you just kick them off of it at some point for being lazy moochers?

>Common sense would suggest that, but the UK is a socialist shithole.

Then why there still poverty and homelessness if the UK is a socialist shithole? You're implying that every Briton has a council home and income support.

>>244444
Sup Andrew Ryan

>>244436

Keep in mind that in Britfagistan, the unemployed also receive other types of "benefits" (yes that's what they are called). Eg in addition to the jobseekers allowance, the government will pay your rent, sometimes utility bills, and if you are "disabled" (which can mean just a sore back or obesity) you can get even more:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Obese-British-Family-Demands-More-Government-Money-106932.shtml

The UK welfare system is insanely generous. No wonder the UK economy is fucked. There's no point in working.

>>244460
and if you're living with your parents or a girlfriend? could that budget support a vidya game and jolt habit?

>>244449

wrong. between £80 and 100 for an average 21yr old male.

doesn't matter if you had government assistance or not

there's only so many good jobs to go around

most people will be poor even if they all had the best schooling and training

our systems are designed for this to be the case

>>244473
If you're living with parents you don't pay rent, if you don't pay rent welfare gives you <200 a month. If they give you anything at all.

Presumeably, you'd still have to buy groceries, and so on.

>>244463

Because it is. Enjoy your socialism, I'm now paying a 5% effective tax rate, on a higher salary.

Yes it fucking sucks. Like the other dude said, there are entire families where no one works. The parents live off benefits, and their children will live off benefits their whole lives.

Shit fucking sucks. In the next election it's pretty much guaranteed that the conservatives will win, and supposedly they're going to change the whole system, but I doubt it. finish university

>>244486
>Because it is. Enjoy your socialism, I'm now paying a 5% effective tax rate, on a higher salary.

For your information, I acutally live in America. How the hell do you pay 5% on a higher salary?

>>244508

I meant to say once I finish uni I'm leaving this shithole. No fucking way am I going to work so some piece of trash can mooch off the taxes I pay.

>>244525
Can't wait until twats like you get out.

I spent a long time on the dole and I would argue in OP's defense, its only recently I luckily found work, a long time I was sharing the jobcentre queue with people who had given up on everything and were just delinquients who had no incentive to try harder.

The dole is fuck all money, its like 70 quid a week to live off, plus housing benefit will take money off you so you could be left with 63 quid. Also Americans you have to realise that you get their shit so so much cheaper than in the UK where prices AND taxes are much higher. The dole is not nice and its nicer to have money in the bank but some people dont see that and just give up.

>>244475
ha ha bollocks mate.

what americans don't understand is that they pay for it in other ways

it's like the idiots who are against socializing medicine with a good single payer

they are too stupid to understand they already pay for everyone else because people without coverage go to the hospital ER for even minor issues which ends up costing everyone with higher premiums and taxes

>>244475

No, for a 21 year old (gender is irrelevant) the average is between £50-£55 p/w, paid fortnightly.

>>244538

No, I understand the medicine argument.

What I don't understand is why you'd implement a system that actually encourages people to sit on their ass and do nothing all day.

>>244525

Oh wow, is your massively excessive student loan (of which there is a possibility you might never repay) beginning to wear thin?

ITT: people who are complaning that they live on a First World country that although has high taxes, it applies them on good things like education, welfare and health system.

pic related, that's what my government offers me If I need brain surgery even if I'm paying 40% of my income in taxes.

>>244508

There is no guarantee Conservatives will win the general election, and this is the exact ignorant thinking that'll be the prime factor for Labour getting another term. Do you know how many quangos and public sector services there are out there, and their employees who'll actively vote if only to keep in work? In addition to the masses who profit off of benefit schemes that will only continue under a Labour government?

With all the tax money going to waste on useless shit, I mind this the least. It's not like the deliberate "leeches" are the majority. Most people on welfare depend on it due to unfortunate circumstances, or just a plain lack of jobs, considering that, contrary to popular belief, there actually are more people than jobs.

>>244569
nothing huh?

>>244583
Actually it's a little bit worse than nothing. This was employed on a hospital on the suburbs of Rio due to LACK OF MONEY. (btw, the suburbs here are very poor and totally different from american suburbia).

40% of goddamn taxes...40%

>>244581
>there actually are more people than jobs.
This needs to be stickied on /new/ along with
>class war, not race war

>>244593
How about Class war, Race cleansing?

>>244593

After some ethnic housekeeping, there would no longer be more people than jobs.

The rich love flooding the country with unskilled Third World labor, because it depresses wages. It makes the citizens at the low end of the country's income scale compete for work with the world's desperate poor. It is a horrible thing to do.

>>244609
It's hardly the rich who support the flux of immigrants. It's the upper middle class paying for their McMansions to be mowed, cleaned, etc. Also all the construction company owners and most small business owners are upper middle class.

So ha.

>>244609
Housekeeping yes, not killing off darkie for trying to get ahead in life because his home country is shit because of rich whitey.

Tighten the fuck out of immigration laws for a few generations and for gods sake get control of your major corporations. They do not have your best interests at heart, ever.

>>244460
>No one lives "comfortably" on the dole, stop being a bunch of fags over it.

Actually poor people tend to live together in packs, if you've got 3-4 of them with other benefits you can be quite comfortable.

>>244621
Name one city, state or country that is run well by blacks.

>>244631
Barbados

>>244628
It's possible, but unlikely.

>>244633
God damn it I love you so much.

OP here, I see the stormfaggotry has arrived.

Thanks to the Brits for explaining a little about how your system works. I'll admit that I find that level of public assistance a little baffling, but it is your country.