1. Criminals become outlaws and are no longer protected by the laws they have broken
2. Complete total and utter benefits overhaul, there is no reason why 9/10ths of the spongers sitting at home watching tv can't be doing work
3. Nationalise the railway
4. I like your Labour camp idea

1. No unemployment benefit at all.
2. Death penalty back.
3. Legalize Weed

1. Ban socialism
2. In fact, ban all forms of leftism


This would solve all of the UKs problems so I have no number 3.

1. Prohibition on alcohol.
2. Christian only government
3. Build bigger prisons

>>2115847

>1.Legalise prostitution

It's already legal.

>2. Stop letting theists have last words about issues (like abortion)

I don't think the theists have much say, and it's one of the few things that I like about Britain, as abortion isn't such a debated religious shitstorm like it is in places like America.

OP here, I like the american law that religious schools don't get government funding

>>2115894

gtfo

>>2115900
Our private religious schools are the best performing in the nation for it.

1. Legalize, regulate and tax weed, MDMA and cocaine. Push dealers and pimps out of the market.
2. Bring in rehabilitation schemes like Irish prisons. A theater scheme in a Dublin prison ended up producing numerous carpenters, actors and playwrights who found gainful employment after being released. Make this a factor in releases instead of time served.
3. Enforce the complete secularisation of government. All religions and churches must be registered with the state. Laws to be brought in that priests, imams, rabbis and others can be held liable for crimes planned within'

1. Elected chamber instead of House of Lords (using PR?)
2. Legalization of all drugs to help addicts, get some extra tax revenue and to stop wasting money + lives on the "war on drugs"
3. Starting moving towards becoming a republic

1.Tell the EU to fuck off
2.Tell America to fuck off
3.Nationalize the car industry,a free XKR or Elise for every labourer,Bentley Continental for scientific personnel and Rolls Royce Phantom for upper management

>>2115920

Americunt here, this plan is awesome.

It would be good to have a government with specialists as politicians, our technology minister doesn't understand what an IP address is

>>2115920
i was just about to call you a fucktard then i read number 3
>i'mokwiththis.jpeg

>>2115920

No reason Britain and America can't be bros. :(

>>2115847
i live in texas but i grew up in rural uk.

1. overhaul all gun control measures giving britfags the same amount of "firearm freedom" as in the state of arizona. basically, if you are over 18 and can pass a background check you can have any "semi auto small arms" without registration or police intervention. also CC and OC without permits.
2. get rid of all political correctness and lessen health and safety laws, seriously you guys, that shit is getting out of hand. my mom worked in an elementary school and said that the kids arent allowed to have glitter or put their chairs on the desks at the end of the day incase they get hurt. pussyfag shit is what it is.
3. cap on immigration, only issue 80,000 visas per year. check everyones immigration status for jobs, education, drivers license etc. basically at every hurdle. and then ship all the illegals out when you catch them.

(4). you freedom of speech isnt that free. if you call a black person a nigger, or tell a muslim to gtfo, you can go to jail for a hate crime. sort it out.
(5). re-instate the death penalty for serial rapists, pedophiles and murderers.
(6). anti-litter plan, seriously, your cities are disgusting
(7). pass a rural protection act making it so that untouched rural land remains untouched and doesnt have some shitty housing estate built upon it. you guys are running out of the english countryside you are famous for, and once it is all gone, it isn't coming back.
(8). elect people who are average joes and not posh elitist faggots for once that think they are better than the peasants.

>>2116034
Fix your car industry and start driving manual and on the correct side of the road,and then we can talk

>>2116045
oh yeah.

(9). leave the EU
(10). leave the UN and become a completly soverign nation again.

1. Bring back national service
2. Make it so we actually make things ourselves and sell them to other countries.
3. Deport any immigrant/Non british person who commits a crime, actually kill them it will save money.

>>2116062
>>2116045

And thats why you should stay in Texas because you believe every FW: FW: FW bollocks thats sent to you

1. Only good immigrants who will integrate very easily should be let in
2. Cut back on alot of the nanny state and the state in general (Quangos definitely)
3. Bring back the death penalty

>>2115907
they set their own curriculums and grade by their own criteria without oversight, theres no way they cant be 'best' performing.

>>2116054

I'm a yank you tommy.

>>2116081

Average limey detected. The right to self defense and the ownership of firearms is the cornerstone of civilized society. Your country is a shit hole because you allow your government to do as they please with no fear of retaliation.

>>2116108
Precisely.You drive like frogs and GM is bankrupt

1: Reform state financial system.

Nothing extreme, more like a change in political culture and legal doctrines. Financial regulations would be considered justified if they prevent fraud and regulations, those which cannot be proven to serve this process would be subject to transparent and public investigation and review by the big 3 political parties, the results posted on the internets for all to see. A new law stating that the budget can no longer have a deficit, it has to maintain a small surplus to function as a margin of error and no longer take any loans, reducing the debt will have to be discretionary but political culture will have to change towards eliminating state debt entirely. Bailouts and welfare will be phased out, if a business has made deals with a consumer and the business goes bankrupt, then the state will fulfill the obligations to the consumer as long as the consumer was unaware of the business's imminent failure, however the business will be allowed to fail in accordance with the principle of creative destruction.

2: Legalize cannabis. I don't smoke because I've always believed breathing in smoke is dumb to begin with, but fuck it.

3: The race issue will be resolved by changing tactics from supporting multiculturalism and affirmative action to supporting individualism. Affirmative action will continue on as an element of civil rights, obviously if a large company only hires whites you can be 99% sure there is some kind of racism taking place, however for the majority of cases people should be judged by merit as individuals, regardless of race, culture, religion or background.

>>2116081
>implying i would ever want to live in the uk

enjoy your liberals, muslims, black people, nanny state, welfare queens, gays, shit weather, council estates, horrible accents, crime, "chavs", shit police, shit laws, political correctness, health and safety, no nice cereal, no taco bell, not being able to defend yourselves and generally being a shit tier country.

good day sir.

>>2116126

We have the right to self defense. The cases the yanks bawwwww about are from dumb faggots who take the law into their own hands and kill them as they are escaping and are no longer a threat.

Also, imagine if these people in the picture had guns.

Cry more

>>2116133

WE drive on the right side of the road, and GM is doing fine now.

Get with the times, man.

1) legalise weed
2) give tax incentives for businesses to become employee-owned and make all non-employee owned businesses pay a largely inflated minimum wage
3) raise the top rate of tax to 60% to invest in health, education, social services and scientific research

>>2116154
Something about those chavs makes me want to shoot them.

A lot.

>>2116146

Taco Bell is opening stores in London in November.

Deal with it

>>2116170
We should make a law similar to the french one banning people covering their faces in public

>>2116154
>bitches don't know bout mah over 21 law and background checks.

also, nice britfag logic there.

"a criminal minority might abuse these freedoms so i guess we should just take away the rights of everyone in the country just to be sure"

fucking idiots.

>>2116164
Why not just put all of it in scientific research?

just one, op.
He'd take care of the rest.

>>2116186
Why, does the majority have something to hide?

>>2116178
>list ~10 horrible things about england
>everything i said is true except the most trivial one regarding a fast food chain

enjoy your tacos brah. lol

>>2116184
no, we should simply identify the degenerate scum during their early teens and sterilize/execute them before they can produce entire hives of scumlets before they reach 20.

>>2116146
In the north of england, we have only one of them: chavs. And here they're so wimpy as to not fight back if you just push them out of the way.

I do agree on the nanny state part and that a lot of accents are horrible, though.

>no nice cereal
lol wut? Sugar puffs ftw

>>2116188
Because I want the country I live in to be nice. Crazy, I know.

>>2116194

You mean the guy who is having his own party fall apart after a dismal election and numberous lawsuits from party employees unfairly dismissed during the election and a settlement with a certain manufacturer of yeast extract?

You so funny /new/

>>2116207
the inbreeding does that to them.

>>2116239

>>2116240
>the US is a worse place to live than the USA

your eurofag liberal retardation is showing

>>2116223
>Sugar puffs ftw

cool story bro.

>>2116265
you must be imagining things

>>2116146
I'll also be enjoying my drink when I'm 18

Glad we're not run by puritans who value guns over booze like you guys.

>>2116154

They're more likely to obtain firearms than a law abiding citizen, because they do not give a shit about firearms laws. Enjoy not shooting back.

>>2115847
1) Legalise firearms
2) Leave EU
3) Reduce socialist intervention into daily life.

>>2116154
They're exactly the type of people who DO have guns, numbnuts.

We don't have a real right to defence, because if we fight back and actually cause harm, we can be booked too. Might want to study law.. law fag here.

>>2116272

I used to drink illegally until I turned 19. I have owned a firearm legally since I turned 18. I think the issue here is that getting beer is easy when you're a teenager and I'd rather have the right to own firearms than the right to drink booze... Especially when all it would take to get it is a call to my older brother.

Even then, only an alcoholic would value something as trivial as drinking over their right to self defense and firearms ownership.

Grow up, you fucking infant.

>>2116276
>he thinks everyone who commits a gun crime in the USA did so because they are innately criminal by nature

>>2116272
>thinks the alcohol laws in the uk are good

ummm ... you do realize that the uk is renound for its binge drinking "culture" and its reated to a rediculous % of all your crime and accidents.

also.

>LMAO, HE LIKE "BOOZE" MORE THAN GUNS

typical britfag. "hurr as long as i have my stella i dun give a shit about the fact that i have no freedoms"

>>2116324
>I'd rather have the right to own firearms than the right to drink booze...
hahahaha ohhh wow

deary, deary me

>>2116329
related*

>>2116324
wow, i wrote basically the same thing as you, didn't see your post before i posted.

*brofist*

anyone who values "getting wasted as a kid" over having basic rights such as the right to self defense is a moron.

>>2116325

I don't think your argument holds water. I believe if you read what I responded to, you would understand. He showed a picture of some Chavs and quipped that it would be awful if they could get guns... When these are the sorts of people that would get their hands on a gun, regardless of the means.

I never once said that legally obtained firearms aren't used by normal people to commit crimes. I will, however, say that the vast majority of legitimate firearms owners do not commit crimes with their guns... Unless you consider damaging paper a crime, which it probably is in the UK.

>>2116329
http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/mor_alc_liv_dis_percap-alcoholic-liver-disease-per-capita

read it and weep you moron. or, wait, the link includes facts which I know you americans don't really like, so feel free to keep trusting your 'gut feeling' about issues instead.

1) restore the right to bear arms for self defence
2) volunteer/professional jury in court
3) total cuts in public sector where the money does nothing (fucking NHS paid homeopathy and newage bullshit)

>>2116351

Didn't read any of this thread but saw this one post and felt an avalanche of stupid crush me as I read this.

Facts can be countered with other "facts".
"facts" can be made up.
Just like "facts" can be misrepresented to fit your particular argumentative needs.
Facts exist when robots rule the earth.

brief history of UK weapon laws incoming.
----------------------------
Britain introduces handgun registration in 1903

The full Firearms Certificate plan in 1920, so all guns must be registered

Declares that "self defense" is no longer a reasonable purpose for firearms in 1937

And then?

1988: semiautomatic rifles are declared illegal, are confiscated according to existing registrations

1996: All handguns are declared illegal except for .22 caliber ones, then confiscated according to existing registrations

1997: oops now .22s are illegal too

2000s: several laws restricting samurai swords, replica weapons, pointy sharp things, things that go bang are passed .... there is nothing left
---------------------------------

i hear that even fireworks are restricted over there, and that firecrackers are illegal lol.

>>2116370
hmm, I guess you're right. who needs facts? let's just trust our gut and everything will work out for the best. good thinking, you're a credit to your batshit insane country

>>2116306

Your right extends to defending your life and thats it. Decking a burglar for being near your kids is ok because there is a reasonable amount of threat.

Roomate is a PC and they take it case by case. If you are a cock and take it too far by chasing them after they leave or shoot them, they will book you. If you just got rid of them out of the house and called the police after they went. They will just make sure you are OK and wont give a shit otherwise.

Its all about intent to the PC's when they arrive. If you get booked for defending yourself, theres a suspicion that you took it too far.

Though you are a lawfag so you just herp derp about the letter of it anyway and not actually about why police arrest people.

>>2116379
>>2116379
Nah mate, you can still smuggle fire crackers in through France, they made good nades if you hollow out an applie and fill it with them.

Scared the fuck out of my friend when i chucked one through his wondow once lol.

Enjoy your apple juice faggot.

>>2116379
I've never held a gun and probably never will. I'm OK with this.

>>2116351
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3510560.stm

you realize that ... drinking for the sake of drinking isnt cool right? right?

seems you britfags take pride in how fast you can get drunk and do stupid shit. enjoy having every park in the country over run by drunk 14 year olds every friday night.

>>2116411

>I've never had balls and I probably never will have balls. I'm OK with this.

FTFY

>>2116411
I'm British and i think you are a fag.

1. Double the military budget, all into military hardware.

2. Give the BBC more money to spread our media empire further and spread our culture

3. No more immigration and illegals get out. 80% of Immigrants from london removed.

Done. Getting rid of ALL immigrants wouldn't be perfect for me. I like SOME diversity, but not this much.

>>2116414

> article from 2004

>>2116401
>Enjoy your apple juice faggot.

um, i'm over 21, but i don't really drink that much. also, just like in england we can get alcohol underage fairly easily here. but i'm not 15 years old, so i don't think that drinking is cool and interesting. the difference between me and you is that i have the choice whether or not to drink, just like you do. but i also have the choice whether or not to own an AK47 or an AR15, but that choice has already been made for you be your government.

i am more free than you are. that is a fact.

>>2116414
..and you do realise that the link I posted shows that the UK has lower rates of liver disease per cap than the USA? your response to this is to say we think drinking is cool? that makes no sense.

alcohol is an important part of the culture of most countries. over-consumption of alcohol is a social problem in most of them, too. but the USA, despite its strict age-restrictions, is actually one of the worst countries in terms of chronic illness resulting from that drinking.

Protip: lots of people do have guns. Legally. See: raoul moat, derek bird.

The reason those two stuck out so much is that whenever someone kills more than one person here it's a big surprise to people, whereas in america it's known as some nigger's everyday life.

>>2116439
>implying the situation has improved since then.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2010/jun/20/late-night-bars-pubs-levy-policing-binge-drinkers

>Sunday 20 June 2010

>>2116432
because your fellow white londoners are so great? i really don't understand this attitude. if the poor brown people are gone, we'll simply focus all our anger and hatred onto chavs. there will always be a scapegoat if you don't look at why these groups become stigmatised in the first place.

>>2116441
I meant when the apple exploded in my friends room.

Apple + bang = Apple juice.

>>2116461

I already siphon most of my hatred to chavs.

But chavs are not so bad as they once were. At least not in my area. (Haverfordwest, Wales).

>>2116463

Yeah, he was pretty clear about it. I'll vouch for him. I thought apple sauce would've been more appropriate, but I still chuckled whistfully.

>>2116411
enjoy being raped and killed by wild niggers/mudslimes/faggots you liberal faggot

>>2116441
We can own guns, it's just more difficult. Same goes for you drinking, except that it's illegal for you. Plus, when nearly nobody else has a gun, why do you need one for self defence? If you must have a better weapon than other people, buy a sword. I did.

>>2116477
so you're from wales. what percentage of your local population is non-white, would you say? or are they Irish immigrants we're talking about?

>>2116490
>implying we have niggers, or that our muslims are anything but quiet shopkeepers

>>2116445
less people drink underage here and there isn't a binge drinking culture among young people like there is over there.

>>2116457
>lots of people do have guns

can a normal law abiding citizen walk into a store without a license and walk out with this 15 minutes later. along with as much ammo as he can afford/fit in his car?

didnt think so.

>>2116499
Chavs are almost all white boys, but being very poor and stupid they try to make up for it by attempting to be intimidating.

>>2116490
>implying I'd be less at risk of being a victim of crime if I lived in the USA
use your fucking brain

>implying abortion is even on the radar when compared with issues like the tanking economy, hard-hitting budgets, ongoing war and overflowing prisons, social decay and corrupt-to-the-core politicians that lead this fucking nation

Oh OP you butthurt tool. British Christians have fuck all power anyway. Our fundies write letters of complaint and hold Sunday afternoon fetes. I'll keep that, thanks.

>>2116504
I find it funny how you think being free involves owning a gun.

>>2116499

Haverfordwest is pretty much 99% white. It's called "little england" as everyone here speaks English.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Little_England_beyond_Wales

Pembrokeshire south (haverfordwest sitting on that river) Is where I am.

When I last checked it was 99% white. But ever since I worked in tesco I've seen the same black guys and more and more asians coming in. and they have tesco clubcards, so I suppose they are from the UK (they have tesco abroad I'm sure, but possibly different clubcards that won't work here)

>>2116504
>binge drinking culture
At least we have the freedom to have a binge drinking culture.

Also,
>implying it's not just 16 year old chavs that do that

>>2116511

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4F1Lq1uFcAE

Learn from St. George, risen from the grave.

>>2116504
>less people drink underage here and there isn't a binge drinking culture among young people like there is over there.
So what? Your overall rates of chronic illness resulting from alcohol abuse are still higher per capita than the UK. What is so hard to understand about this?

>>2116463
oh, my bad brah.

>>2116491
>We can own guns, it's just more difficult.
our gun laws aren't even comparable, see:
>>2116504

>implying that if you used that sword to defend yourself and killed an attacker you would ever see the light of day again.

>>2116510
I was only using that as an example -.- plus some topics affect me more than others

>>2116512
so let me get this straight, your major concern is immigration but you don't actually experience its effects?

>>2116504
>can a normal law abiding citizen walk into a store without a license and walk out with this 15 minutes later. along with as much ammo as he can afford/fit in his car?

No, and we're better for it. As evidenced by our lower crime and mortality-due-to-crime rates.

>>2116491
>HERP DERP CRIMINALS ABIDE BY GUN LAWS

how on earth has natural selection failed to purge britfags from the world?

>>2116542

Immigration is fucking terrible and it needs to be stopped as I think without it we would have less racial hate. Need to shut the doors now and make it very hard to get in (In fact UKIP has the best policies on this, rather then BNP huur duur throw em out )

>>2116542
Not him, but we've seen how it's ruined other places. London, manchester, bradford, blackpool - we'd much rather not become like that.

>>2116535
If I used it in my home I'd be perfectly fine.

>>2116549

> implying US gun laws are not unique
> Let's compare per capita gun crime shall we

>>2116536

Sorry.
I just hate how people think abortion is an issue. It's fucking dumb, and not worth discussion anyway. It's oly trumped up by moral brigadeers to make it seem important when it's clearly fucking not.

But yeah, weed is an important issue. As someone who doesn't personally smoke it, I think it's horrible that you can be sent down the river for a fucking ounce.
Especially in this country where the last Home Secretary fired that Dr. Green (?) guy for finding that weed isn't even as harmful as the government made it out to be.

>>2116578

I'm not that other guy.
But I'd like to add in that I'm an Atheist against abortion.

>>2116578
>I just hate how people think abortion is an issue. It's fucking dumb, and not worth discussion anyway. It's oly trumped up by moral brigadeers to make it seem important when it's clearly fucking not.

Thankyou. America is the only first world country where there's still a huge fundie section shouting MURDER MURDER DERP, elsewhere it's just moot that it's fine

>>2116587
>IT KILLS BABIES! PRECIOUS BABIES THAT COULD BE THE NEXT EINSTEIN AFTER THEY GROW UP BEING DESPISED CAUSE THEY WEREN'T WANTED

My face when things we say on this board will never ever come true,

Immigration will stay high.
Guns banned
Binge drinking destroying us
Abortion
High knife crime
Politcally correct gayness.

And other shit.

You really think anything will change for the better?

>>2116578
No problem, it's nice to find some good people on here.

And I agree with you, there are much bigger problems with Britain

>>2116595

I think things have gotten better.

I think 2008-2010 (August) has been quite good for us even with the economic crisis.

>>2116563

UKIP are OK. But the problem is shutting the door fucks it up for US, Canadian, Australian etc. immigrants like Labour did (We only have the massive amount of illegals we have because Labour made legal immigration a fucking nightmare). An American immigrant put up a good story here about how legal immigration is a fucking nightmare

http://www.b3ta.com/questions/prejudice/post685544

The Lib Dems actually had the best policy. Get the legal system for immigration working properly again so rejecting non-qualified is easier and re-institute the policy (That Major's Tory government dropped) of tracking who comes in and who comes out of the country.

>>2116595

FIRECANE

>>2116563
explain why. are you sure the problems aren't more to do with increased population density, rather than the colour of peoples' skin?

>>2116568
>Not him, but we've seen how it's ruined other places. London, manchester, bradford, blackpool - we'd much rather not become like that
what's the relationship between being around people of different cultures/skin colours and a decline in quality of life? reduced social cohesion and a lack of a community life are factors closely related to inequality, and if the group at the far-bottom of the social ladder is non-white, then of course it'll appear as though they are the problem. the reality is that before we had much immigration, the same people you say are 'ruining' towns were the jews and the very lowest of the working class. you're scapegoating a weak and powerless group of people instead of trying to work out why quality of life has declined for the poorest in society.

>>2116595
Not under the big three parties. Or under the little ones in my opinion, though they all have elements I think are right aside from all their idiocy

1. tracksuits for everyone
2. the government buys everyone a pint
3. hand out free screwdrivers

And you could also make Irvine Welsh prime minister, that would kick ass.

>>2116621

Can't we make special policies for Australians, Americans etc? We could play it off as some hocus pocus anglosphere agreement.

>>2116633
You mean the group of people that stays amongst themselves, causes lots of crime, and never makes any attempt to integrate or participate in any british form of life, favouring their own backwards way?

>>2116652

Nope. Has to be a rule for all. For example, excluding a genius nuclear physicist just because they are from somewhere like Iran while letting some stupid aussie bint who's only skill is pulling pints in, is stupid as fuck.

Theres a smart way to do immigration and theres the UKIP,BNP way (aka fucking retarded)

>>2116658
that's a nonsense stereotype. I live in one of the most ethnically diverse boroughs in London and it just isn't like that. people of different colours make friends, get involved at the schools, work in the same places and get along. there's no reason why two people of two different cultures can't get along and co-operate. the idea that they can't is a nasty smear against all people who aren't white and it's usually borne out of ignorance or a desperate need to explain why life is so unsatisfying. the reason people are dissatisfied is we live in a society that is the direct product of an economy with very steep and widening inequalities. the only problem is that these ideas seem abstract to people who have grown up being told they deserve to be at the bottom of the social ladder, even if they really yearn for status and respect.

>>2116658

Chavs easily fit in that description. As do the Scottish. You gonna tell them to GTFO?

>>2116652
Yanks don't for us who gives a shit about them

>>2116678
no, we'll simply exterminate them as the vermin they are

>>2116674
>ethnically diverse
I'll bet you live in a rich but ethnically diverse, since you've not been stabbed yet. Try going to a poor area, or a poor city like bradford. Then we'll see a knife integrated into your gut. Ever been driving only to be told by an indian man to get out of his part of town?

>>2116678
The scottish do not, I know plenty and they're all nice as shit. My uncle is scottish, and the only difference between us is that he gets extremely butthurt over rugby whereas I don't care.

>>2116715
>I'll bet you live in a rich but ethnically diverse, since you've not been stabbed yet. Try going to a poor area, or a poor city like bradford. Then we'll see a knife integrated into your gut. Ever been driving only to be told by an indian man to get out of his part of town?
so you're saying indians are more dangerous than blacks? assuming you're a northerner, I know you like to think you're 'ard and stuff, but you might be a little deluded. I haven't been stabbed because I'm not one of a tiny minority who experience such crimes. pretty simple.

>>2116732
I live in cardiff, would you like some of our somali population? Last I checked they were still mugging people out in the open in the centre of town (which is a shopping area..).

I'm just assuming you live in an all white area. And not the guy you quoted.

>>2116732
>think you're 'ard
oh lawdy, never met me

>minority
I've been to bradford twice and blackpool about four times. Every time apart from once at blackpool which was promenade only, I ended up running like shit for my life. My friend who lives there says it's not uncommon for that to happen

>indians are more dangerous than blacks
I don't think it's race, more to poverty and not integrating into british society properly

>>2116748
I live in a borough which is close to 30% black. I have never been mugged, or attacked since I left my shitty secondary school. enjoy your crazy, tabloid-fuelled worldview that ignores the real causes of social problems and blames them all on communities comprised of some of the poorest and most disadvantaged groups in society. it's really brave and righteous.

>>2116715

Barking here. Never had a problem with immigrants. However, Chavs nicked my car twice, smashed the windows in my house, kicked the next door neighbours cat to death, beat up one of my roomates and held a knife to her neck, dealt drugs, threw cans of larger all around the place and were a fucking nightmare to deal with until the council made the landlords evict them out.

You are full of shit. Any poor area you are going to find trouble from some group.

>>2116776
>30% black
Are they recent immigrants, or have they been there a while? I know a few black guys and they're nice enough, but they've been here for generations and they're nice enough.

>>2116767
I could tell you some pretty hair-raising stuff too, but it all involves chavs. it's inequality that causes these problems, as should be obvious to anyone who isn't willfully ignorant of the fact that the more unequal a society is, the worse it treats not only its minorities but all of those on the bottom rung of the social ladder. if nearly everyone of a certain ethnic group is poor, then they are associated with that bottom rung, but they aren't the only ones on it. the white people on it are pretty nasty too, it just so happens that a lot of white people are further up that ladder, blurring the picture.

anyway, I'm out.

>>2116146
No Taco Bell? Sign me up.

>>2116673

>Theres a smart way to do immigration and theres the UKIP,BNP way (aka fucking retarded)

UKIP support using work permits to allow people from other countries to work here.

Labor camps are just a way for the ruling class to use the have nots to their advantage. Shove your forced labor up your blood nose you fucking snob. You'll find out just how quickly you end up there for a minor infraction. I doubt your wealthy enough to avoid the consequences of such stupidity.

>>2116912
>minor infraction
I think a few days in a labour camp for a minor crime would do some people good. Although, I'd really rather this labour was going to unemployed people who actually want it.

>>2116912
Labour camps are a good way to remove jobs from the free economy. There a global shortage of labour, you understand. We just don't have enough people to fill all the available jobs. Giving them to prisoners just makes good business sense.

>>2116942
10+ or whatever percent unemployment would disagree with you

1.) moratorium on immigration
2.) abolish all welfare programs
3.) drastically reduce government regulation on almost everything

>>2116954
>abolish
Some people need it, like actually disabled people or those inbetween jobs for a short while. I'd support tightening the requirements though.

>>2116950
unemployment is caused by government not letting companies do whatever they want.

>>2116979
if someone needs welfare then they dont deserve to live

>>2116980
Who needs minimum wage and insurance and all that, right? What matters is BOOTSTRAPS.

1) turn it into a wasteland
2)prohibit people from leaving
3)deny the people outside aid

Whoa whoa.

People actually think abortion is bad?

> My face when everyone talking big about welfare scum are students so in fact get welfare money from the government.

>>2117419
And so we should, considering they're the ones that put the huge pricetag on it in the first place.

>>2117401
Well it is, you are killing something.

Use a condom or don't have sex if you don't want a kid.

Abortion should only be ok if a bitch gets pregnant from rape or something.

I'm fairly fucking disgusted by people who have abortians.

1. get rid of northern ireland, hate that place so much
2. get rid of all the brown people
3. get rid of the north

>>2117450
You've never killed a fly? Or put domestos down your toilet? Or jizzed in a tissue?

Pretty much the same in my book.

Also, using a condom doesn't always work. They split, people are allergic, etc.

>>2117450

Typical christfag bible basher response.

>>2117458
The north is god tier. It takes everything that's good about england and removes most of the stuff that's bad about england.

1) Reclaim India
2) Recolonize Africa
3) Kick Argentina in the shins

>>2117450
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0kJHQpvgB8

>>2117482
Killing a fly isn't killing an unborn baby inside a woman, it still doesn't change the fact that you KILL a potential baby.

>>2117487
Whut

1. Send SAS into council flats with orders to gun down anything in a tracksuit or baseball cap.
2. ???
3. Profit!

>>2117490

But everyone talks like a fucking idiot up north.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o4vxN9vP3mg

>>2117510
>potential baby

You realise most abortions are by very poor people? Do you really want another baby growing up in a poor household, hated by mummy and daddy for being unwanted? It'd just add to the chav problem.
Also, how is abortion any different from a condom? You're still killing a potential baby by wearing it.

>>2117552
Because it's taking the form of one, i'm still against it even if chavs are the majority who have them.

1) Redefine our goals in educating young people, reform the education system

2) Reform the welfare system, redefine what we want to encourage from people in their lives and make it worth their while to do it (big one)

3) Promote new and green tech investment, re-invigorate our manufacturing base to this end, invest heavily in sciences (education generally)

>>2117584
Very, very subjectively drawn morals you have there.

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