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    23 KB Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:10 No.210960  
    Why is every college professor a fucking leftist?

    hell, my polysci friend has to tone his views down and conform with more liberal views just so he can avoid getting a C.

    pic unrelated.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:13 No.210982
    >>210960
    Your Poli-Sci friend is a pussy

    I speak truth to liberal professors and get A's and B's
    I will soon have an A- Average. I am also being inducted into the Poli-Sci Honors fraternity
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:15 No.210989
    it's been proven that the more intelligent you get, the more liberal you become.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:15 No.210993
    >>210982

    Bool story cro.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:16 No.210999
    >college professor
    >leftist

    DERP I WONDER WHY HERP DERP
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:16 No.211000
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    >>210960
    I find you lack of perspective disturbing
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:16 No.211002
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    >>210989
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:16 No.211006
    White guilt? Pseudo-enlightenment? (because we all know how well academia shields you from the real world)
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:18 No.211014
    >>210989

    It's been proven that when Liberals study economics, they become Libertarians.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:19 No.211016
    >>210989
    No it hasn't
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:22 No.211026
    Social liberalism and atheism are directly proportional to degree of education, and professors tend to be very well educated... alas.. your answer.

    The only exception tend to be economists or theology professors.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:23 No.211031
    It's because, in reality, a lot of right-wing views are really, really retarded and have no place in an academic context. Feel free to spout them online, but when the serious business starts, you should probably use your brain.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:23 No.211032
    >>210960
    >>210982

    Weird. My polisci department isn't leftist so much as fucking love postmodernists and try to shoehorn postmodern philosophers somehow into almost every class.

    Also i can freely discuss verbally and in papers about why democracy isn't necessarily needed for poor countries to develop economically and sometimes even authoritarianism works better.
    Hardly a liberal view.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:24 No.211042
    >>211032
    Postmodernism is the cancer that is killing the social sciences
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:25 No.211044
    tradition, pessimism, paranoia - conservative

    empathy, positivism, altruism - liberal

    The above are common descriptions of what it is to be conservative and liberal. Which words sounds more like something you gain through years of study, and which sound like something you'd inherit?
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:26 No.211050
    >>211042
    Like that concerns postmodernists. Cancer of the body of progress? There was no body to begin with. Or it was dead long ago.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:27 No.211056
    >>211026
    >Social liberalism and atheism are directly proportional to degree of education

    but that's because universities have a left wing bias.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:27 No.211058
    I wrote about my anti-state, market anarchist views in a couple of papers for one of my classes last semester. Got As on all of them. I wonder if the professor thinks I'm nuts.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:27 No.211059
    College makes you liberal. Fox News story.

    http://video.foxnews.com/v/4016232/college-skews-political-spectrum

    Their explanation for it is hilarious.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:27 No.211061
    This is /new/ not politics

    try dis.4chan.org/newpol/
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:28 No.211066
    because they are educated and informed, not some mouth breathing ignoramus
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:29 No.211069
    Educated conservatives get jobs in the real world. Educated leftists teach.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:29 No.211070
    >>211061
    >implying theres a difference.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:29 No.211071
    Because they're intelligent people and intelligent people are socially liberal. Economically their opinions will vary, but that occurs within party politics as well.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:29 No.211073
    >>211056
    Thats cute but No

    Social Liberalism, like education, comes from a variety of factors of which EDUCATION is one. More important (I.E. Reliable) factors then education are: Age, Wealth, and Family Political affiliation
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:30 No.211075
    Eurofag here - watched a documentary http://indoctrinate-u.com/pages/welcome.html

    Has anyone seen it - it seemed so unbelievable. Biology professors regularly starting their classes with talks about Iraq war and whatnot.

    So are the hippies, who admired DDR and USSR in 60s now professors?
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:30 No.211076
    >>211058
    I like to assume my uni's professors see professionalism in that as long as you provide at least a somewhat sound argument they won't blast your grade based on how it seems so fucking nutty intuitively
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:30 No.211078
    There was actually a very interesting study by some Sociology PhD hopefuls from Harvard that was posted on The Chronicle of Higher Education that said that it's not that professors tend to be liberal, it's that liberals tend to be more attracted to the professorial profession. Just like people with conservative leanings tend to be attracted to the police force more than liberals, etc.

    Might be worth a read if you're interested.

    Might not be if you're a troll.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:30 No.211081
    >>211050
    hehe... I like you
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:31 No.211083
    There are no "leftists" in America. What you call Communism is actually centre right conservatism.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:32 No.211087
    >>211075
    People with a basic moral conscience? That's SO outrageous.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:33 No.211091
    >>211078
    An old chestnut
    Those who can do, those who can't teach

    this is how more "conservative" (in the American use of the term) people think. You get a degree to do something. Thus such people aren't going to be part of the professorial class.
    >>211076
    My uni is the same way for the most part. Most of the professors are professionals who do their job
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:34 No.211092
    >>211091
    Professors' foremost job is research and contribution to their field. Teaching comes second.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:34 No.211093
    >>211083
    how cute. You think Axis answer political problems.

    The Left in America and The Right in America are constructed in a different way. Because America's political sensibilities are different. Thats not to say they are better (I think they are, but if your a european you might disagree). But because our political system started from a different place your left and right don't correspond over here
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:35 No.211096
    Using what very well may be a hypothetical situation to support your biased opinion isn't a good way to have people understand you're stance on the matter. That being said, there's a definite relationship between political stance and greater learning institution professors. Perhaps this trend between the educated elite who research for a living and their political bias sheds some light upon who's right in the bipartisan battle?
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:35 No.211099
    >>211078
    I think you'd have to qualify that.
    There are two parts of higher education, the sciences and liberal arts. Liberal arts, name aside, include things like art and literature and sociology, which naturally typical leftists would like to study.

    The sciences are more "neutral" with no preference; should be a 50-50 split.

    In fact I know one premed that is creationist and is so deferring to authority that she thinks something is morally wrong strictly because the state deems it illegal.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:35 No.211101
    >>211092
    However we are talking about Political Science professors. Most of their research is garbage
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:35 No.211102
    I found a professor will usually give you good grades if you make sound arguments that back up your case, even if they disagree with you. And to the contrary I find most professors are centrist Liberals not leftists. I've never had a marxist prof or anything (kind of unfortunate). Sounds like either a butthurt prof or your friend needs to try harder.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:36 No.211108
    The more educated you are, generally the more left you become. You come to learn that Science is better than superstition, Tolerance is better than Intolerance, Fairness is better than Exploitation, Cooperation is better than Conflict. Perhaps you personal development at college will help you learn this too.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:36 No.211111
    >>211075
    I actually saw more liberal bias from the biology professors than the political science ones. Just my experience though.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:36 No.211112
    >>211087
    I probably miscommunicated something - english second language and 4am.

    If you watch this documentary, then I think some things there are real outrageous instead of fake outrageous.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:37 No.211113
    >>211102
    I've had leftist professors who use marxism for their class
    (well Gramscian Communism... I think thats technically still Marxist)
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:37 No.211117
    BECAUSE JEWS
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:38 No.211119
    >>211014
    I got a degree in Economics and became a Stalinist.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:38 No.211122
    Actually, there are a lot of conservative professors, they just don't try to force feed their opinions on their students like Liberal professors do. I think one of the main reasons liberal professors do this is because it make them seem cool and progressive to their simple minded students that can't think for themselves.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:40 No.211125
    >>211119
    You sound like my sorta guy. Drinks on me.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:40 No.211128
    >>211122
    and this is the problem I noticed most in college

    most 18-21 year olds in college are incapable of thinking. Heck make it 18-25 year olds
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:42 No.211137
    >>211128
    >>211122
    if they don't agree with me they're stupid, amiright?
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:42 No.211138
    >>211102
    Yep gramsci was a marxist. he had to write in code when he was in prison to avoid censure so academics like him cause he sounds more complex.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:43 No.211143
    >>211111
    Because the polisci professors have studied postmodernism and thus don't really give a fuck.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:43 No.211146
    Most of you are using the term liberal and conservative wrong. The fact that you can freely espouse your ideas in a well written format with sufficient reasoning means your professors are liberal. If in fact you could not espouse your views your professors would be conservative.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:44 No.211150
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    Polisci Major here and you can just sit the fuck down right now.
    I started taking economics classes and I swear I just became the member of his church. My teacher literally orgasmed when she met him.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:44 No.211151
    >>211128
    I took an American History class, and everyone was enanmored with our professor who told history like it "really" is. Which is to say she told how evil America is, except for the few times we elected liberal presidents that were to her liking.
    These professors try to convince you they are teaching you the unbiased truth, when really they are just teaching a different kind of biased history. What the hell happened to objectiveness in education???? I want the facts of a situation, not the right point of view or the left point of view.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:45 No.211153
    Neither party is 100% correct and as irritating as it is to deal with others' opinions, especially when you consider them stupid, it is good for the overall balance of the country.

    By that, I mean in terms of pure conservative and liberal ideals. What our 'right' is right now is no longer anything that resembles conservative ideals, but more of a pandering to the Christian and moreso Evangelicals.

    The real problem in the US is not between conservative and liberal ideology. The problem is the theists. We would be very well served by an atheist president who doesn't care about a second term and just changes stuff up for the sake of weeding out crap.

    If you take religion out of the mix (as it should be since the US is not a theocracy) all of our issues become more-or-less clear with the exception of finances and what to do about the Middle East. There would still be debate about healthcare and immigration, sure, but all of our social issues would solve themselves.

    We need an atheist state.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:45 No.211157
    >>211137
    No. They are incapable of saying
    "This is what I think"
    they are incapable,unable, or unwilling to defend what they think
    >>211138
    Bonus Points: This was a class on globalization
    When I read up on who he was, I had lulz
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:45 No.211159
    >>211150
    For the uneducated this is a dig at "libertarians"
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:49 No.211187
    >>211159
    boooring
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:51 No.211199
    >hell, my polysci friend has to tone his views down and conform with more liberal views just so he can avoid getting a C.

    >In America, people who disagree with me should die
    Grade:F

    >In America, stupid people have a right who disagree with me
    Grade:D

    >In America, people have a right who disagree with me generally
    Grade:C

    >In America, All people have a right to any option
    Grade:A

    Fucking leftist professor!
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:51 No.211203
    >>211192
    I have a professor lets call him "professor asshole." He is teaching a class on Emperical political analysis. And for his class you were required to write a one page paper on the ethics of animal testing after he went on for 45 minutes about the evils of animal testing and eating meat. And how we would all be better if we were vegans and smoked pot
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:52 No.211206
    >>211092
    This might actually be one of the features that helps gives professors a leftist tilt. In research great emphasis is placed on developing conceptual frameworks that are new, or at least build off of others in an original way. Since conservatism is by definition traditional, a field of research dominated by a conservative culture could easily stagnate into rexamination and reaffirmation of that which is already established. The tried and tested might be good for daily use, but it really doesn't get journal publications.

    On the other hand, some field like Medieval studies are so focused on the past that there are quite a few conservatives in them, and I think their focus on the traditions helps them to reconstruct and understand the context of the medieval literature, artwork, etc.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:52 No.211209
    >>211157
    Well hegemony does come up in IR theory
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:54 No.211218
    >>211206
    IF my school is to be viewed as the norm. Medieval scholars (in lit) are all about how to read these things with marxist and feminist perspectives. And to apply them post-modern critiques
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:54 No.211219
    You're addressing a wide-scale issue with an individual example that you can't even prove to set the tone for any argument preceding your statement. Immature and stupid to say the least.
    >> NH4NO3 !CH3nO2./t. 02/23/10(Tue)21:55 No.211223
    >>211203
    And people wonder why I refuse to go to college...
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:55 No.211230
    >>211209
    Oh I am not saying the perspective was invalid. But I saw how he was using that to guide the study on the topic. That was my lulz
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:56 No.211239
    Even professors in science are leftist.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:57 No.211240
    I must have been one lucky motherfucker, because the entire time I was at university I never had any professors who blatantly injected their political opinion into class materials. This is really surprising considering I was in Journalism for 2 years before switching majors.

    The only possible exception was a history teacher who had hard on for latin America, but even then he never brought up any "leftist" shit.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:57 No.211242
    >>211223
    You are too smart!
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)21:59 No.211260
    >>211223
    derp
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:00 No.211275
    Your professor is a fag and so are you, so you can take your political opinionated thread and get straight out of this board. i suggest /newpol/ assclown politicalfag
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:02 No.211284
    >>211240
    Sometimes its funny. One of my profs is a "mainline liberal democrat" and he regularly likes to butt heads with the resident Marxist in the class and verbally remove his limbs whenever he reaches too far.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:02 No.211289
    >>211218
    I'm not saying that those things will be absent from Medieval, but there seems to be enough room for them and the neo-historicists to coexist. In fact one of the reasons that the femisist/postmodern approach is popular in the medieval studies you see is that Medieval is a couple of decades behind the theoretical fads.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:03 No.211297
    >>211284
    hehe

    also some people can't talk like a grown up about politics or religion

    those people suck
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:04 No.211304
    >>211289
    I hate theory Fads
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:04 No.211306
    >>211230
    Yeah my professor tried to inject critical theory into a map making class. interesting but i was "wtf?"
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:04 No.211309
    What happened to this forum? Are all the stormfags at a candle-light vigil for Dick Cheney?
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:06 No.211320
    Those who can, do.
    Those who cannot, teach.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:06 No.211321
    >>211304
    Theory fads build publications and get people tenure. I'll play along insofar as it is interesting and doesn't make me think I'm misinterpreted a text. Are there more important things than "the feminine other in Beowulf"? Yes. But if I can cash in on that, so be it.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:07 No.211324
    Because, statistically speaking as one gets more educated, he drifts to the left. However, he also move further to the right with increased income.

    Academics are, for the most part, highly educated and modestly paid.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:08 No.211328
    >>211321
    I understand that if you are part of "the system"

    but for those of us who are in your publication factory it sucks
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:09 No.211337
    Lol my college professors are conservatives op.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:09 No.211339
    >>211320
    what if they CAN teach? does that mean they do teach? or do they teach because they can't teach?
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:10 No.211340
    >>211337
    Then gtfo of Liberty University then.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:10 No.211341
    >>211324
    also age is a factor. You tend to get more moderate--> conservative through the process of marriage and having offspring. As your kids get out of the house you change as well.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:11 No.211347
    >>211339
    But to teach your teaching a subject
    by teaching that subject you are not DOING that subject

    example: If I went to work for the CIA, The House Intelligence committee, and for the National Security advisor's office and then retired to be a professor I will have done but choose to teach as a service to the community. A professor who goes that way is more apt to be conservative
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:13 No.211357
    >>211337
    the university of phoenix doesn't count
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:13 No.211358
    >>211026
    If conservatives got rid of the religious right it would be a billion times better than the democrat party.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:14 No.211365
    >>210960
    You might want to check out a Business or Engineering department.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:16 No.211376
    >>211365
    Is also so
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:16 No.211378
    >>211347
    What if I am a Neuroscientist on the cutting edge of Alzheimer's research, but doing research and being brilliant doesn't pay my bills? I imagine I would cut back on my research hours and profess to lab full of students who could also help push the research.

    I also had an accounting professor who worked at Deloitte and Touche but taught college kids because he just loved to teach.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:17 No.211382
    >>211358
    meh, i'll take the religouis right. they may want to control your bedroom, but the left wants to control every aspect of your life.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:17 No.211386
    Why does every politifag do ass2mouth?
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:18 No.211394
    Most asians I know are conservative. And they are also the ones scoring the highest on iq test.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:18 No.211397
    >>211382
    That is ridiculous. The problem I have with the left is that they think that anything people want to do is ok.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:19 No.211404
    >>211394
    That is racist and not a viable sample size. You sure sound smart.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:20 No.211409
    >>211378
    But they both are DOers first
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:22 No.211427
    >>211397
    anti smoking
    anti fat foods
    want to tell you what kind of lightbulb to use
    want to tell you how to throw out trash
    what kind of car to drive
    how much toilet paper to use
    etc...
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:28 No.211465
    >>211427
    and conservatives don't have a laundry list of rules they want people to follow?

    i will agree with you though that the environmentalism has passed the point of insanity
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:32 No.211502
    >>211465
    Social conservatism

    Promotes preserving human life
    Promotes marriage staying traditional. Also Obama supported this.
    I think they are promoting good although if you are an atheist you hate it because it has religious tones.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:38 No.211538
    how does /new/ suck so little today?
    >> Bropar !utXvFbdW3g 02/23/10(Tue)22:40 No.211553
    It depends on where you go.

    Big public school? Moderately left.
    Private school? Either extremely conservative or liberal.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:45 No.211593
    >>211538
    New as a whole is awesome

    due to the /new/content
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:46 No.211597
    >>211553
    We've had a public school monopoly for years it's obvious they failed and private schools achieve greater results.
    >> Bropar !utXvFbdW3g 02/23/10(Tue)22:49 No.211615
    >>211597
    Private schools are better because they have more money, and thus attract better faculty and more grants, etc.
    Public schools fill a need for normal, nonwealthy people to receive higher education. A mixed system is probably the best.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:50 No.211632
    >>211615

    This is an oversimplification. Public schools can achieve comparable achievements to private schools when given adequate funding (which will be more than a private school, I will completely agree.) Look at the success of the CUNY system.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:56 No.211683
    >>211615
    There are shitty and good both private and public. Some privates like the Ivy leagues and Stanford attract top scholars, some publics like the the UCal system or the Big 10 schools attract similarly great scholars. Smaller publics tend to be plainer. Small privates often have to pay top dollar to get people who would rather be in the academic community of a larger public department.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)22:59 No.211706
    >Implying being a political science means jack shit
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:11 No.211824
    >>211502

    >Social Conservatives
    >Promotes preserving human life
    >human life
    >human
    >life

    >War
    >Death penalty

    2/10
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:24 No.211924
    >>211824
    War and the death penalty both promote human life

    just not the lives of the people who get killed
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:25 No.211935
    >>211615
    Hur dur mixed system bullshit again. The problem with mixed system is private sector is limited the government has a printing press. If you say the problem is public funding you are a fucking retard. It's saying yes let's just increase your taxes 50 percent and throw more money at our government programs and hope they work better.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:26 No.211944
    >>211824
    >Compares convicted criminals to innocent life
    Failure. Also we don't have a draft people CHOOSE to go to war. The human life doesn't CHOOSE to abort itself. I'm tired of liberals using the same old arguments that have been refuted.
    >> lol y u mad tho? 02/23/10(Tue)23:27 No.211947
    Libertarian here. I start college in only 3 months. Liberals piss me off. Hopefully it won't be too fucking liberal now.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:28 No.211960
    >>211947
    >16/17 year old libertarian

    This is most of /new/
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:29 No.211966
    >>211960
    20 year old libertarian here.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:30 No.211974
    >>211944

    I'm a human life, i choose to abort babbies

    >>211947
    If liberals make you that butthurt, why go to a mainstream college at all. Just go to Bringham Young University or Bob Jones University. I'm sure the conservative thinking at those places will be perfect for you.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:32 No.211984
    >>211974
    Don't be a stupid fuck do you choose to abort yourself? No my point is made. Also liberals can't use they care for the poor when they obviously don't care about human life.
    >> lol y u mad tho? 02/23/10(Tue)23:32 No.211986
    >>211960

    Sorry, but I actually know what my preferences are when it comes to politics. I do not support anything Liberal. At all. I know I am a libertarian at heart, like any other good american.

    Go to Berkeley and check out the small mural with the hammer and sickle on it. Yeah, real smart libtards. I know you all aren't that stupid, but goddamn. Nuke Berkeley. They aren't even americans, commies yes.
    >> > 02/23/10(Tue)23:34 No.211997
    >>211966
    You and most od /new/ are really too young to know what the hell you are talking about.

    Listen to the liberal professors and study the facts. If you come out just as screwed up as you are now, kudos to you, go help ruin Americas future, but just get the whole story for once in your goddamn life, ya shut ins
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:36 No.212010
    >>211986

    >Nuke places that have differing opinions

    I'm glad there are still REAL AMERICANS left in this country
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:37 No.212017
    >>211239
    Why is that suprising? They're scientists, they're intelligent, they're hardly going to be evangelical nazis (republican)
    >> lol y u mad tho? 02/23/10(Tue)23:37 No.212018
    >>212010

    Hey, it's infested full of code pink faggots. They deserve nothing less.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:38 No.212020
    >>211997
    But the Liberal professors don't teach the facts

    thats why they are liberals
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:39 No.212026
    >>212017
    The leftist scientists are the stupid ones with quack theories. That can't get employed by private industry.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:39 No.212029
    >>212020
    Because teaching creationism in schools is factual. I wish you people were actually trolling,
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:40 No.212031
    >>212020
    when you are brainwashed, you are trained to ignore other people's opinion by giving labeling them

    college or not, you will be mowing my grass
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:40 No.212044
    And people wonder why everyone wants to blow up American cities.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:41 No.212045
    >>212029
    No because teaching everyone to be vegetarian to stop climate change is very reasonable to liberal professors.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:41 No.212046
    >>212018

    They deserve much worse in my opinion. Grow a pair and have stronger views of those against you
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:43 No.212057
    >>212045
    Both things make sense scientifically and as they're scientists.........
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:43 No.212064
    >>212045

    >teaching everyone to be vegetarian to stop climate change is very reasonable to liberal professors

    /facepalm

    Go to college kid, and actually meet professors
    >> lol y u mad tho? 02/23/10(Tue)23:43 No.212066
    >>212046

    Nothing is a bigger insult than insulting the fucking military, the people who protect the country.

    What I find most hilarious is the fact that they are all old, ugly, skanky women that wouldn't last an hour in basic.

    Fucking irony at it's supreme.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:44 No.212067
    >>212057
    Well no they don't actually. I still wrote about it to pass my exam though full well knowing it was propaganda :3
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:44 No.212073
    >>212064
    um yeh >_> thats what I was lectured on. Fail.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:45 No.212078
    >>212067
    Well they do actually.....
    Go back and do high school science...
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:45 No.212082
    >>212073
    your fault for not doing your research and picking one hell of a failure school
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:45 No.212086
    >>212078
    Oh shit they teach it at high school now oh dear. Radical vegetarians *facepalm*
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:47 No.212097
    ITT: butthurt fags that couldn't go to college
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:47 No.212100
    >>212066

    In fact, why are you even going to college, join the military and blow shit up for your country
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:48 No.212108
    >>212073
    Well if you weren't a complete retard perhaps you could have got into a better university who would have taught you why current growth patterns in meat consumption are not sustainable. I mean you don't need to become a vegetarian, God knows I never will, but to claim eating meat is not harmful to the environment is rearded, and people who deny anthropogenically caused climate change are lay people, not scientists.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:48 No.212111
    >>212082
    You seem to not be reading what I'm writing. I'm at university a renowned international one. They taught us that vegetarianism would reduce globalwarming. Their theory is horse shit. I still wrote their theory down to pass my exam. Living in the west is like living in east germany... >_>
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:49 No.212115
    >>212100
    Because i'm not an murrikan.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:49 No.212117
    >>212064
    Some professors are dicks

    GENERALLY the dick who will go off on Veganism and Climate change will be the one teaching a class not even remotely related to the two

    Tenure: I can be an incoherent fuck
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:49 No.212118
    >>212086
    It's nothing about vegetarianism. I eat meat every day,. But the fact is Meat IS worse for the environment than being a vegetarian.
    >> > 02/23/10(Tue)23:49 No.212120
    >>212020
    HRR HRR HRR very funny. Doing a report you research your paper right? Check your facts now sonny.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:50 No.212126
    >>212111
    >I'm at university a renowned international one
    No, you're not.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:50 No.212127
    >>212118
    #1) But Being a Vegetarian is worse for animal rights (won't some one think of the animals?)
    #2) For every veggie you eat your one step closer to eating a cock (if your a guy)
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:51 No.212134
    >>212120
    Liberal professors are always wrong

    ALWAYS
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:51 No.212135
    ITT: People who don't go to college, and would be shit-tier majors if they did.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:51 No.212137
    >>212111
    That is primary school level science. It is not horse shit. It's a very basic idea. You cannot possibly be at a respected university if you do not understand the science behind this.
    >> lol y u mad tho? 02/23/10(Tue)23:51 No.212140
    >>212100

    Plan on doing that too. The national guard looks good. Maybe the air force. Scored high on ASVAB and whatnot.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:53 No.212152
    >>212118
    No it isn't one of the reasons cited is the industry and logistics produces alot of greenhouse gas. Well fuck how do you think carrots get to your table they are transported in trucks. Vegetarinism fixing climte change is oppertunistic activism by radical vegans.
    Look no further then the head of the UN climate change fuckup a vegetarian hindu.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:53 No.212153
    Listening to Republicans makes me want to become a suicide bomber.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:54 No.212158
    >>212134
    well, we are SOL then because Obama filled his cabinet with them. People who spend their entire life in a bubble, in a world of theory.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:54 No.212164
    >>212137
    Well it's shocking that they teach it at primary school now. Because when we were discussing it most people found many scientific flaws in it.
    Progress heh.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:54 No.212165
    >>212152
    No one is saying that growing vegetables is free from greenhouse gas emmisions, just that it is far less than raising livestock.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:55 No.212166
    >>212111
    If there was no beef industry, methane emissions would plummet dramatically. Thus global warming would slow.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:55 No.212169
    >>212152
    HOWEVER...........................

    Vegetables increase the methane in your bowel

    Methane is the worst green house gas

    ergo: Veggies and Meat both hate the planet

    the only solution to save the earth is kill yourself.

    Please enviromentalist liberals show us how to do it
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:58 No.212184
    >>212166
    Yeh you'd also have to produce alot more food clearing alot more land and producing more carbon emmissions in the process. Also farting humans lots of them.
    >> Anonymous 02/23/10(Tue)23:58 No.212185
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    275 KB
    buuump

    the ideal way is for some clique or clutch of trippers to take in new trusted associates one at a time, and protect them. no-one needs do avocacy, no-one needs attract attention. me i discovered acid, shrooms, pot on my own and thought i had to tell everyone. that's how i drew this down

    in other words we are being controlled brutally by pedophile overlords with high technology who despise us. people like you and me but horny and rich

    Google 'drug critter linux' for the app these pics are from. I had to take my links out but see youtube.com/user/toomalf for vids also use tinyurl 'ygbmj9r' for a google group where i discuss the implant, i thought it was aliens or the signlarity but it isnt >_>

    <_<

    >_+
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:00 No.212201
    It's amazing that America did as well as it did, given that it's full of utter retards. It's on the wane now of course and is a flash in the pan compared to the other empires and superpowers, but still they did alright for a bunch of religious philistines.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:01 No.212210
    >>212184
    No, you need less land to grow crops than to raise livestock, and you need to grow crops anyway to feed the livestock this is kind of the point, keep up.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:04 No.212230
    I have had several varieties of teachers.

    My PolSci professor was a conservative.

    My English professor was an environmentalist liberal

    My economics teacher was a supporter of social capitalism (slightly socialized capitalism but mostly free)

    All of which have accepted, taken into account, and nurtured opposing viewpoints. I don't know where you're going to college but if your professors are willing to mark you down for holding opposing views they clearly are not intellectually mature enough to handle the job.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:05 No.212237
    >>212210
    hohoho. Aren't you a moron. Look guy i'm not an amurrikan. I'm not a republikan. I understand the theory flawlessly I got what you'd call an A+ in the subject.
    You aren't understanding what the rammification are if everyone eats veg.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:06 No.212247
    >>212230
    I think it's more that the OP isn't intellectually mature enough to admit that he's actually not very intelligent and chooses to blame this on those pesky commies. Because you know. It's still the 50's in America.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:08 No.212257
    >>210989
    It's not quite that simple, more a correlation then a causation.

    Smart people have a stronger tendency to be liberal then dumb people because smart people realize that rarely are there simple solutions to problems- a cornerstone of conservative thought.

    A conservative really does believe something along the lines of "if we all followed jesus and ignored the niggers we'd be a better world". A smart person can think about things critically enough to realize that this solution is much to simplistic for such complex problems and is willing to try other possible solutions that stand up to scrutiny better. These new solutions tend to be liberal solutions.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:10 No.212266
    >>212247
    They had a communist cocktail party at my uni no joke. Also they for some reason were celebrating the existance of the terrorist group Hamas. I think the intention was to show support for their iranian student "comrades" only they put up the wrong green flags. Hamas ones. Opps.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:11 No.212273
    >>212257
    Oh are these the same liberals that don't believe theres any way to determine someones race with DNA forensics. That there is no genetic indicaters to determine race.
    Those same genius liberals?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:12 No.212278
    >>212237
    I got what you'd call a 1st in Natural Science at Cambridge. I'm not underestimating anything. It is a fact that it is more environmentally friendly to grow crops, when certain measures are put into place. than it is to raise meat. That's not to say i'll ever become a vegetarian, because i'm rich and like steak, but that doesn't mean vegetarianism isn't environmentally sound if you're not an idiot (don't for example be a retard and buy product with palm oil in)
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:14 No.212285
    >>212278
    ONLY if you consider pollution your only standard for being enviromentally sound

    raising vegetables kills more animals then raising animals
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:15 No.212301
    >>212273
    Nice straw man. What they actually say is that most of what defines race is a social construct. What genetic differences that are there that really exist are minor things like vitamin D production efficiency.

    Genetics Fact: Human beings are 99.9% Genetically Identical, and of that range of possible differences, race only accounts for about 8% of that .1%.

    (And I said smarter people have a tendency to be liberal, not Liberal = Genius.)
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:15 No.212302
    >>212273
    Someones scientific knowledge has nothing to do with their political affiliation, and the right wing are far more flawed in this area anyway given the popuarity of creationism and lack of education of the party core.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:18 No.212320
    >>212301
    Oh dear god here we go.
    >race
    >social construct.

    Pardon me while i barf in a bag over you shitting all over scientific fact.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:20 No.212333
    >>212301
    then why do blacks fail everywhere they go?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:22 No.212343
    >>212301
    mammals are 98% genetically identical, the difference between us is our chromosome count, make up and behaviour, so what's your point
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:23 No.212351
    >>212320
    Same here, I said mostly- but you are twisting everyone's words around until they damn near unrecognizable.

    If this twisting around hadn't got me 99% convinced you were just a troll I'd give a FUCK YOU Image macro.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:23 No.212357
    >>212343
    SPECIES ARE A SOCIAL CONSTRUCT
    STOP THE DISCRIMINATION
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:25 No.212368
    >>212351
    If i hand in a cell sample taken from myself to a lab. Anonymously. With the instructions work out what race I am. They then return it with my race guessed at 100% accuracy.
    How did they do that??! magic?!!
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:26 No.212372
    >>212343
    My point is that raise a black man like a white man and he'll act like a white man. Raise a white man up he's Hispanic and he'll act Hispanic. Raise a Hispanic up like he's Asian and they'll act Asian. This has been proven over and over again.

    TL;DR- Most of the differences between the races are all in our heads, studies have been confirming this for decades.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:27 No.212376
    >>212357
    >>212368
    Are you even reading what he's saying? Seriously.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:28 No.212386
    >>212372
    So blacks
    -Dont have big penis's
    -Aren't good atheletes
    -Aren't stupid
    -Don't have to have apelike features if they are brought up in a white house hold.
    -Don't have to have dark skin if they are in the right social environment.

    amidoingitrite?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:28 No.212389
    >>212376
    No because it's absolute politcal garbage. Not science.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:30 No.212391
    >>212386
    Notevenclose2rite. I never said there aren't differences. I said that the differences are really small.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:31 No.212396
    >>212391
    so? differences are differences how are they social constructs?
    I think you libtards would be better off saying one species instead of one race. Also communism failed.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:31 No.212398
    >>212389
    Um, yes. He is using Science.

    He said that the difference between a white man and a nigger are amazingly small on DNA- but he does say that they are there.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:33 No.212408
    >>212398
    When did I say that the differences are huge. We share alot of DNA with bananas. The small genetic differences manifest huge physical differences in appearance(for instance). I'm arguing that alot of liberals (particularly liberal americans) seem to think race is not real.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:37 No.212423
    >>212408
    But that's not what the are actually saying.

    They are saying that the differences are real.
    They are saying that the differences don't really matter.

    They aren't denying the differences, they just don't care about them.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:38 No.212438
    >>212423
    really then why do you have to put your race down on forms in america? You guys don't care?
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:39 No.212445
    >>212398
    what is the % difference between man and an ape? i think its the same as man and nigger
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:42 No.212469
    Heres a thought take the chimpanzees and the Bonobos they are basically the same damn animal. But one is ultra violent and territorial. The other (Bonobos) is ultra horny and passive.
    Look the same.
    Very similar genetics.
    Radically different behaviour.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:44 No.212484
    Don't feed the race trolls.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:45 No.212488
    >>212445
    The genetic difference between man and ape is 2%. Compared to .1% between any human. And no, we really couldn't tell you who is the closest to the ape genetically.

    >>212438
    Because the people who read those forms make us mostly. Is the second letter in your last name a vowel? If it doesn't matter to you, why do you write it down.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:48 No.212503
    >>212484
    Who do you think saves your precious 3rd worlders libtards. Docters trained in science that discriminates between races to help fight racial exclusive/common diseases.
    Libtards you are a plague on humanity.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:48 No.212506
    >>211108

    >The more educated you are, generally the more left you become. You come to learn that Science is better than superstition,

    Except science related to race / IQ or anything sociobiological, then leftism adopts superstition rather than going where the evidence leads.


    >Tolerance is better than Intolerance,

    The left is less tolerant than the right. The right has more respect for the idea that a man should be judged by his actions rather than his thoughts, which are a private matter.


    >Fairness is better than Exploitation,

    The left promotes unfairness, distributive justice over procedural justice, equality of outcome over equality of opportunity. The right is more fair.

    >Cooperation is better than Conflict.

    Hence multiculturalism, saying that Islam and Christianity are equivalent for example, which is untrue. The left thereby promotes thought policing (since a lie has to be maintained but the truth needs no maintenance. No conflict is best where two ideas are in opposition. This is the basis of our political and legal systems.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:49 No.212509
    People who attend college and teach college are leftist because they have an education.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:50 No.212511
    >>212506
    Very good. But the left ruthelessly hounds and persecutes christians while pushing up islam.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:51 No.212518
    >>212509
    it's no coincidence that the longer you spend in the indoctrination centers, the more liberal you become
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)00:52 No.212526
    >>211026
    >Implying Atheism is related to intelligence

    That's like me saying Intelligent people are always naive
    >> Hank "The Fist" Scorpio !!D1wEzlENbVA 02/24/10(Wed)00:54 No.212533
    >>211153
    >We need an atheist state

    We need a SECULAR state.
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)01:05 No.212586
    >>212518
    >the indoctrination centers
    >college

    yea FUCK educations! we dont need no damn nigger booklearnin
    >> Anonymous 02/24/10(Wed)01:21 No.212681
    >>212278
    >It is a fact that it is more environmentally friendly to grow crops, when certain measures are put into place. than it is to raise meat.

    >fact
    >environmentally friendly

    Those two things don't go together. You're trying to get an ought from an is.



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