>memes
It's spelled means.

This is one of the times I actually feel sorry for moot...to have to go through bullshit like this while we all shit in his chimney.

Poor moot.

>>1975798
>>1975813
>feeling sorry for moot

So Christopher Poole is his real name and not a CP joke?

My face when both the prosecution and defense ask about rick rolling.

>>1975827
;)

Fuck you moot. You'd not have to worry about this shit if you had more mods. All you do is give faggots who lurk #4chan for 12+ hours a day and your close friends mods powers

>>1975859
disregard that I suck cocks

The defense didn't really defend much of anything.
The guy is going in the slammer for sure

>>1975859
butthurt he's not a mod

Kid guesses password to PRIVATE email that just happens to belong to a politician using PUBLIC information

Why isn't the FBI tracking down the person that hacked my email account last year?

Poor kid, If he did some actual "hacking" he would have had a nice career set out for him in the cia/fbi after serving out half his sentence.

Since everyone knows what he did is pretty simple all he's getting is a ruined life and a few years of daily anal massage

>>1975904
cuz you are a nobody

any ideas why both sides were so interested in rick rolling?

>>1975904
have you called them? have you put up a stink? no? then they are far more busy on real crimes.

>The board is called Animu and Mango?

Laughed so fucking hard

>>1975918
yeah, they don't do that shit anymore. it's not the 1980s.

>>1975928

It would of been funnier had they taken him to court when /a/ was Magma & Detergent

don't fuck with football

>old people don't understand the latest thing the kids are doing
OMG YOU CAN'T BE SERIOUS??? SINCE WHEN?!

>>1975928
That part was great.

The ratio of hackers on 4chan is probably lower than any other website.

Tell the court to lurk more, fucking newfags

>>1975771
wut

Oh god reading the transcripts is like listening to me trying to explain the internet to my grandparents.

Reading this testimony i can only think one thing...

does moot move away from the mic to breath in?

>>1976068
That's what moot said in his testimony. He said a "Rickroll" was an internet "mean."

>>1976032
not really as most of the internet thinks its ok to download shit from a site that gives out free wall papers and cursors that they found on youtube. i mean if you compare 4chan to face book or other main stream shit im sure 4chan as more hackers per capita but if you were to compare it to Slashdot or something 4chan would get its ass killed. that said i would say maybe 1 out of 50 people on 4chan can hack and maybe 1 out of 25 are script kiddies.

The stenographer fucked up, when he was asked about animu and mango moot said it was a misspelling of anime and manga, stenographer still wrote it as "mango"

FIRE HIM

>>1976119

Probably just a typo from the court typist who probably looks like this.

> mfw cross-examiner is mad over getting rickrolled.

>>1976123
stfu gtfo

They didn't ask what "CP" means...

PROTIP: moot is a snitch and will sell you out to the feds in a heartbeat

>>1976089
moot might really be the little girl if he needs to move a way from the mic to keep his voice deep.

>>1976141
Are you a nigger or something?

>>1976141

brotip; moot is not your bitch, and 4chan is not your personalized cum-recepticle.

That's what myspace is for.

HAHAHA the guy that got arrested was samefagging in that thread

>>1976141

I wouldn't wanna fuck up my website trying to protect some faggot skiddie either.

>Q. And is there any significance to "new fags"?
>A. That is the term used to describe new users to the site.

I bet the jury thinks 4chan is a online gay bar after this.

>Q. What about "troll"?
>A. Troublemaker.

Why do they keep asking about "lurker" and "rickroll." They have no fucking idea what they are looking at, do they?

Q. And the term "rickroll" you said it tries to
make people go to a site where they think it is going to
be one thing, but it is a video of Rick Astley, is that
right?
A. Yes.
Q. He was some kind of singer?
A. Yes.
Q. It's a joke?
A. Yes.

>>1976192
RICKROLL IS ALL POWERFUL! IT WILL FORCE YOU TO VIEW RICK ASTLEY VIDEO AGAINST YOUR WILL!!

>>1976192

massive butthurt detected.

I really wish someone would do a serious research thesis about 4chan, so that these kinds of things can just be referred back to that journal article, or essay or something.

Hell, I'd love to be the guy to do it but I'm not an anthropology major, and who would give grant money to fuck around on 4chan all day?

Prosecution is mad because they were Rickrolled dozens of times researching the case

I managed to read it until they asked him "And is there any significance to "new fags"?"

Then I fucking lost it.

>>1976209

...

> planning on majoring in anthropology.

>.>

LURK MOAR NEWFAGS

>>1976217
no, I'm going to med school. I'd do it if I had the time and training, but like I said, I don't. I'd rather make money.

BREAKING NEWS:

4chan terms have now been codified in a government document! Now we have legal precedent for 4chan terms!

WE HAVE BEEN VALIDATED

>>1976209

brb changing my major

oh! i could minor in women's studies! all the misogyny that goes on around here.

I got some sound advice for Mr.David Kernell lawayer. just repeat this:

ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, I have one final thing I want you to consider. Ladies and gentlemen, this is Chewbacca. Chewbacca is a Wookiee from the planet Kashyyyk. But Chewbacca lives on the planet Endor. Now think about it; that does not make sense!Why would a Wookiee, an eight-foot tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of two-foot tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with this case? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with this case! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a lawyer defending a script kiddie, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're in that jury room deliberatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed jury, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The defense rests!

>>1976225

No no, i'm planning on majoring on anthropology is what i meant.

Christ... i'm seriously thinking about doing 4chan as my thesis...

>>1976158
why?
did ur asshole get wet or something?

>>1976235
>>1976231
I wish you both would. It's really fascinating to think about, and it's undoubtedly a cultural phenomenon and a very unique kind of social grouping.

Plus if you don't, one month I might just take a vacation and write a short 200page book about 4chan, it'll be mostly wrong but it'll become a definitive work by being the first of it's kind.

>>1976304

Actually it's only really worth writing about something if there is already contradicting content.

So go ahead, write your 200 page book.

I'll just have to destroy it.

Hardly any of those questions actually related to the case, poor moot having to answer a bunch of newfags.

>>1976304

>it would be mostly wrong

Which is why you leave it to the experts to write it, not some casual browser who doesn't know what they are talking about. Also, make sure the person who writes this future case study is a Millennial.

4chan has been referenced in academic works. It's really not interesting enough to write a book on. The whole anthropological/sociological analysis of cyberspace thing has been pretty much done to death. It was the hot thing back in the 90s. I wouldn't recommend it for your honors/master's thesis. Maybe an undergrad essay but not a thesis. I once had to sit through a class with a professor talking about l33t and memes and some guy piped up about Simpsons porn and it was utter fucking torture.

>white night

>>1976309
well I'd love to kickstart the dialogue

>>1976369
experts aren't writing about it, though, and I'm getting tired of waiting. I'd rather say something wrong in this instance, than live without the dialogue.

>>1976375
in the 90s you had the BBS system and basic webpages, at best. 4chan is a new thing and not adequately explored, in my opinion. There's an obvious lack of knowledge about it as evidenced by the document in OP. I think it's worth looking over, in an age when everyone focuses on privacy, security, and social networks like facebook and twitter.

did the hackers thread get archieved?

/r link

>>1976449
search for it and post the link yourself. you know how to search the archive.

>>1976186

I figured when the prosecutor asked what those words meant, it was because they appeared in the defendant's posts and he wanted to establish their meaning for the court since they're jargon.

>>1976415

I'd rather have no dialogue at all as opposed to people getting a wrong and inaccurate view of 4chan. The people in power will actually use this to make a law that will limit access if you let them.

>>1976415
I agree with you 100%, 4chan is a web 2.0 site.

Christopher Poole, C-h-r-i-s-t-o-p-h-e-r
P-o-o-l-e.

>>1976548

You are a faggot, f-a-g-g-o-t.

>my face when the big bag govt thinks 4chan had anything to do with Sarah Failin.

Suck your own goddamn dicks you fucking faggots.

>>1976556
well s-c-r-e-w y-o-u b-u-d-d-e-h

and No U

4chan is gay

>My face when Moot had to explain what a .jpg is.

Holy fuck. These people write our laws.

Jesus christ, reading the transcript: it must have been really awkward when he had to discuss things like "newfags" in an open court: g.

>>1976580
No they don't, lawyers do that shit to leave nothing ambiguous for the jury. All court proceedings that have to invoke any technical knowledge (dna evidence, computer forensics) are like that

>>1976589

Its still pretty sad that in 2010 there are people who dont know what a .jpg is.

Holy fuck these lawyers are utterly clueless about 4chan in the transcript of the court hearing.

And this ... "What is the signifigance of .jpg?"
SERIOUSLY?

Fuck me, next time I'm in court I'm gonna waste everyones time by asking for the definition of "it".

>>1976582

I'm floored he didn't have to explain "CP", "loli", or inadvertantly screenshotted thumbnails of tortured animals, scat porn or some 12 year-old shitposting NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER for five pages.

>>1976569

u mad, bro?

trollface.jpg

>>1976618

That would've made the transcript all the better.

>>1976605
Yeah, it's not like jury pools include old people all of the fucking time.

Get over it. Not everybody uses a computer, especially old people who compose most of the body of registered voters.

>>1976618
To be honest, it would have made a good defense, placing the blame of the hack on 4chan's views of Palin at the time. As it is, why didn't the scripter just plead guilty?

>>1976535
too late bro, we're already internet terrorists, if people know of us at all.

see: fox news

>>1976304
http://www.amazon.com/4chan-Frederic-P-Miller/dp/6130059973

http://www.amazon.com/Random-Anonymity-Culture-New-Direction/dp/1453718362/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_2

http://www.amazon.com/Group-Internet-Imageboard-Encyclopedia-Dramatica/dp/6130232888/ref=pd_sim_sbs_
b_3

http://www.amazon.com/Church-Andrew-Brown/dp/1453663304/ref=pd_sim_sbs_b_1

you're a faggot

>>1976415
http://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=%222chan%22+board&hl=en&as_sdt=80000

http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=%224chan%22+board&as_sdt=80000&as_ylo=&as_
vis=0

>>1976697
>4chan's view of Palin
Because the view of 9.5 million unique visitors per month is able to be discerned and condensed into a meaningful form.

>>1976709

sweet jesus...

>>1976621
but you didn't troll me at all. :)

>my moniker is Moot, M-o-o-t

lol

>>1976733

> implying i didn't know that.

> fucktard.

> f-u-c-k-t-a-r-d.

>>1976709

>>1976235
>>1976209

I forgot to mention that these people are also lame faggots.

>>1976309
what do you mean by controversial content?

things are worth documenting even if there isn't much disagreement about it now, so future generations don't argue about what something was like

>>1976618
If you look at it, everything other than rickroll has relevence to the original hack thread, which is what the court wants to know about. Plus since it's evidence I'm sure the screenshots were handpicked to keep things from being further complicated.

Although I find it interesting that both the prosecution and defense ask about rickrolling.

Wonder if the government paid for Moots travel expenses.

>>1976717
You don't need to prove the entirety of the board was encouraging the kid to hack Palin's account specifically, you just need to show a selection that could have indicated that this board might have had an influential effect on the kid's state of being.

>>1976709
Oh wow. How did I miss these?
Though the "Kindle Editions" and @lphascript published paperbacks don't really count for much outside of pandering to a demographic in an attempt to get money.

>>1976709
well I'll be durned. I guess there is some work on the subject already. not that there isn't still interesting things to say, and money to be made by making a popular overview of the 4chan phenomenon.

>white night

lol'd. Also US government attorneys are newfags.

>>1976901
Just don't go on "The View" or Oprah to promote it and you'll be fine. Also, am I the only one who finds it utterly hilarious that somone wrote a novel about us?

>>"I just finished this book and it was fantastic! >>The writer was able to draw you into the world of Anonymous. The whole "Anonymous network" was very different from anything I've ever read. It was very realistic and a little scary. >>The book was well written and comical in parts. The entire book was very suspenseful, but I have to admit I laughed out loud at the end. >>I am definitely going to recommend this book! "

>>1976938
but... the money...

it depends. if it were a purely entertainment book I really wouldn't, I'd let it stand on it's own merits. but if it were really more educational, like this is how 4chan works, here's how not to go full retard while posting, then I would go on to explain it and the culture a bit.

I'd definitely stay away from porn, and CP discussions though. Don't need my face defending CP to Dr. fucking Phil.

I love how the max sentence would be lower if he punched Palin instead of "hacking" her.

>>1977061
proof that our lawmakers don't comprestand computers?

Why didn't mootkins rickroll them?

>>1977099
steal docs out of my email account? you could ruin my career forever.

punch me in the face? I have a black eye for a week, 2 max if I'm a girl and milk it.

they have it right in this case, and I'm sure the precedent comes from stealing physical documents, a crime that I'm sure happened often enough in the past

>>1976709
HEY

I just went through your links, ASSHOLE. those are bullshit links and you know it, and they don't talk about 4chan, they focus on /b/ and "Anonymous" the group that raided scientology. NOT from the perspective of the board, they were written by fucking outsiders.

my idea was a good one and you are a pissant. 10/10

Moot went state's evidence against that /b/tard.

One proxy wasn't enough to prevent their backtrace.

Better get behind 7 proxies or you dun goofed.

Sarah Palin is such a whore.
Get off of Pooles dick an stop ur whining.
The GOP's savior a total bitch in real life.

>>1977392
Here's a perfect 'Rage you lose' one bio for an author.

>Currently studying at UC Berkeley, Mint has been fascinated with underground internet culture for many years now. Allowing herself to become a "/b/tard", Mint believes it holds crucial information as to how society is going to develop in the future.

A self-proclaimed /b/tard who's also a girl.

Not to mention these are real violations of Rule 1 & 2. Most idiots think it applies just to 4chan, it only applies to /b/. Then again, it's only in effect for raids. Of course this is all moot since moot said 'fuck the rules'


It would be interesting if a bunch of 4channers (Old and newfags) got together and wrote a book chronicling what 4chan is and does. Unlike the halfass shit that's out.

>>1977504
that's right, it is half ass. because it only focuses on /b/, and even then only on Anonymous. which hasn't even been active since Dusty the cat.

fuck it, now I will write a book. hopefully I make some money on it, I'll give half to moot for server costs.

>>1977412

Wasn't the thread in question on /b/? We have nothing to worry about. Yet.

>Rickroll is a mean or Internet kind of trend
>Rickroll is a mean
>a mean
>mean

Transcriber confirmed for non-heavy internet user. Or jackass.

Always Plead the 5th.

>>1975750
>gets asked about the memes and vocabulary of /b/
Oh God...

It could have been so much more epic if they just asked him "what is /b/?"

>>1978273

Or better yet, if they asked what is "/B/."

>>1978282
pic related

>>1978315

lrn2internet

/B/ doesn't exist. Proof:

>>>/B/

>What is a "white night"?

>White night

>night

>>1978395
>Niggers. The absence of niggers.

Does he say nigger in here anywhere? Cause that would be great.

>>1978395

I like how moot pretends like he doesn't know what it means

WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE

so basically, we are not anonymous, the fucking server logs each one of our IP's and what we do?

>>1978483

He probably doesn't moron. He can't keep track of every meme and saying you summerfags force upon us.

>>1978360
it was too much of a faggot so it was shut down moran

just like >>>/invasion/

>>1978493
Read the transcript they keep logs on everything for a certain amount of time before its deleted forever. How do you think the guy got caught in the first place and people are IP banned?

>>1978493
DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!DELETE DAT CP!!!!DELETE DAT CP!!!!DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!

DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!

DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!

DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!
DELETE DAT CP!!!!

They are good at internet.

>>1978493

> he thinks internetz can haz untracable.

:3

>>1978493
The ONLY reason this kid got caught was because Moot tracked him AT THE TIME.

Any other time and the thread would have been deleted, his details lost, and the entire thing buried within a fuck-shit-ass-ton of similiar information. Making tracing it practically impossible when you KNOW of it. Let alone when the shit gets wiped and all that is stored is basic code that can't track anyone down.

The ONLY reason this poor kid got caught is because of his actions on other forums and because Moot logged this kids information at the time. Was Moot sleeping that day then this kid would have no connection to 4chan.

>>1978562

Moral of the story: Keep your illegal activites on the down-low

>>1978502
>white knight
>summerfag meme
Oh hey there, newfag.

I'm a troublemaker guise.

>>1978584

>implying White Knight is a meme at all

Way to take the bait and out yourself as a newfag, newfag.

>>1978606
>doesnt know what a meme is
Hey newfag, having fun there being obvious?

*facepalm*

>>1978493

yea bro, you probably wanna delete dat ceepee unless you want to drink Bubba's gravy later on

>>1978493
I have something for you, "Anonymous".

>>1978628

cool beans.

>>1978627
>>1978628
Oh wow. Hivemind.
MIND=BLOWN

>>1978562
you forgot the fact that he included his email address.

is this about cp?

>>1978759
you mean he included his email address in the e-mail field while posting here?

>>1978562
Great job defending your honeypot, federal agent.

>>1978627
>>1978628
They MIGHT be able to prosecute those who uploaded but those who viewed it, responded or downloaded it? Very unlikely that they would waste money trying to prosecute such a flimsy case.

It reminds me of the case of a guy who found a bag of VHS tapes on the side of the road. He went home thinking they were bootlegs and put one on. It was CP. He turned it into police and they arrested him for possession of CP. The judge threw the case out and the guy ended up winning a huge settlement from the state.

>>1978627
Sure is moron up in /new/ today.

Child porn can be "viewed" by simply being on ANY of the boards on 4chan. You can be in /lit/ and a CP thread can appear (only to be deleted, as per the rules). The small thumbnail is already on your computer regardless.

Even in CP threads, where they cannot tell if you were redirected to a picture or not, it acts the same.

Nobody can be prosecuted for the CP from 4chan. Because all of it is impossible to lay claim that you intentionally recieved it outside of being "trolled" into seeing it and reciving the cookies.

In fact it is impossible to prosecute anyone other than the OP or the posters of the pictures.

And thats assuming that SOMEHOW the Feds were able to get your information without it already being swamped by the fuckton of information that gets stored everyday on 4chan. And thats assuming it doesnt then get deleted later, into untracable mashing of code.

And thats assuming those involved are fucking in the US.

And thats assuming no-one is using proxies.

You can literally post child porn on here. Recieve a life ban (for the 5 minutes that lasts). And never once have any Feds even remotely know of your existence.

>>1978627
What protects 4chan is a myriad of different things. The greatest of which is the sheer AMOUNT of information that is stored, deleted or unreadable on their servers. NO Federal authority is going to spend countless man-hours going piece by piece through countless lines of code, looking at COUNTLESS pictures, while trying to match IP and indentifying details with those pictures (and making sure they simply were not there, instead of posting it), in order to MAYBE take it to court and have a TINY chance at a conviction.

Which is why they use other sites to track people down. All arrests that have regarded 4chan members have all been tracked down through OTHER sites. The only thing tying them to 4chan is them posting where they are here, what other sites they are using or details that can help track them down elsewhere.

>>1978782
he probably thought police were watching him anyway (as in, they planted the videos), and were going to bust him if he didn't go to the cops.

>>1978773
As far as I remember. It was either in the email field or in the screenshot he posted. In this case, both parties were retarded. I actually witnessed this shit first hand and am damn glad I never logged into that fucking.

>>1978792
Agreed.

It would be the equivalent of someone running up to you on the street and shoving a picture of child molestation in your face. No cop is going to arrest you for viewing child pornography and no prosecutor is dumb enough to try to bring that to court.

You can make the argument that it is saved in your cache but it only takes 1 computer expert to testify on your behalf and the prosecution is shot down. I guarantee you that everyone with an internet connection has at least 1 illegal item on their computer.

>>1978797
>>1978792

sure is easily upset in /new/ today
you spent all that time typing that up while i agree with you on a general level, that stuff is just copypasta (albeit very good copypasta). i fucking hate people like you who don't keep the ball of fear rolling

>>1978824
He's just keeping spamming morons like you from trolling /new/

Those of us who are regulars on /new/ are getting tired of the "end of the world" and "Moot is shutting you down" threads. You can't troll the higher educated troll.

>>1978627
TL:DR

skimmed it... is it baisicly that everything said on 4chan is logged forever or some shit in a fucking novel?

>>1978841

oh god, are you fucking kidding me
so you're saying that you act like a moralfag deliberately because you know some basic facts on how law enforcement works on the internet. biggest load of shit i've ever heard

>>1978843

lol sure

>>1978493
oh, the irony of this bullshit post being posted by a fucking namefag.